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[campomni]

Welcome to the official Tumblr blog for Camp Omni!

What is Camp Omni?

Camp Omni is a one of a kind California secular summer camp experience! Camp Omni provides an educational adventure shaped by fun and friends.

Our camp features science, natural wonder, and humanist values such as empathy, creativity, critical thinking, and community. Summer sessions are week long, outdoor residential camps for campers ages 8-17.

For more information, you can click the link below to check out our website!

If you would like to ask questions about the camp/the experience of attending/anything that you can think of, you can go ahead and send us an ask here on Tumblr. We don't bite!

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omni milo pride icons

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SYDNEY KIN OMNI. 🦴

pt: Sydney kin omni. end pt.

Sydney + kin + omni.

꒰୨୧◞ 。definition⠀.ᐟ for omnis who love Sydney Sargent from Camp Here and There !! pt: definition; for omnis who love Sydney Sargent from Camp Here and There! end pt.

[omniocademy]

Camping Nitris style. What are you up to this weekend?

[shopomnicuracao]

5 Ways to Prepare for a Camping Trip

Camping essentials and equipment

How your camping trip turns out will depend a lot on your preparation. Preparing for a camping trip does not mean packing a tent and some snacks. It requires you to be completely prepared for anything and everything you would require during your outdoor adventure, including preparing for emergencies. Proper planning and preparation before you head out camping is a must to ensure adventure with safety, and to have a more enjoyable and memorable experience.

Here are five essential tips to keep in mind when preparing for your next camping trip.

1. Research the location thoroughly

Before heading out, gather information about the camping site. Know the terrain, weather conditions, wildlife and any regulations or permits required to set up a camp. Understanding these factors will help you pack the right gear and equipment and plan your activities accordingly.

2. Make a checklist of everything you need to pack

Create a checklist of all the items you'll need for your camping trip. This should include essentials like tents, bedding, cooking equipment (stove, fuel, utensils), clothing as per the weather conditions, personal items, first aid kit, power bank, camping lanterns etc. A checklist will help you organize your packing process and will ensure that you don't forget anything important.

3. Practice setting up the tent

If you're using new gear or haven't camped in a while, practice setting up your tent and other equipment beforehand. This will familiarize you with your equipment and help identify any missing pieces or issues that need to be fixed. Knowing how to set up camp efficiently will save time and help you get started quickly once you arrive at your destination.

4. Pack and prepare food and water

Food is an important part of camping. The right kind of food will give you the energy for your outdoor adventures and will make mealtimes delightful. Plan your meals in advance and pack non-perishable items that are easy to prepare. Consider options like freeze-dried meals, canned goods and snacks that won't spoil quickly. If you'll be cooking over a campfire, bring ingredients and utensils for simple yet satisfying meals. You may run into local wildlife of the area so store food securely to prevent attracting wildlife.

5. Safety and emergency preparedness

Safety should always be a priority especially when you are camping away from home and civilization, without quick access to medical assistance. Essential items such as a first aid kit, navigation tools (map, compass, GPS) and emergency supplies (whistle, flashlight, fire starter) are a must. Familiarize yourself with basic first aid procedures and know how to respond to common outdoor emergencies. Always make sure someone knows of your camping itinerary and expected return date in case of unforeseen circumstances.

These simple steps will help you be fully prepared for your camping trip, setting you up for a safe, fun and stress-free outdoor experience.

[couldeatthatgirlforlunch]

I Can Feel It in My Bones

Synopsis: Being Invincible’s pet is cruel, but you manage to find comfort in it.

Pairing: Yandere!Sinister!Mark Grayson X Gn!Reader

Tw: 18+; Mentions and descriptions of mass murder (this is a version of Mark that joined Omni-man and the viltrumites); Mentions of kidnapping and being chained; Mentioned and implied dubcon/noncon; Implied Stockholm Syndrome; Hurt/little comfort; Mentions of threats; All characters aged up; English is my 2nd language.

Word count: 500

Requested? No.

Extra notes: I might write more about this, and other fanfics with Mark and Rex, love my babygirls

General masterlist

You have your own suite. Well, it's not exactly yours, it's Mark’s room, but he barely spends time there, since most of his time is spent destroying Earth and intimidating civilians, alongside Omni-man. Meanwhile, you're always chained to the foot of his bed, just enough freedom to go to the bathroom and wander through almost all the expanse of the room. You can't even reach the door, not that it would change anything, there’s no one around to help you, much less someone brave enough to go against Invincible’s wishes.

Omni-man and Invincible like to talk as if you aren't in the room, as if you're invisible. You know the former doesn't understand why his son keeps a pet since it's death will come before Mark can even look like a 30 year old human. You're the pet. But he shrugs it off when Mark reminds him that not everything is about work, and if he can do whatever he wants to humans, then he wants to have a pet.

Mark is cruel. He always reminds you that the only thing stopping him from harming and killing you is your pretty face. That you only get to eat because he likes your body healthy. That you only get to shower and brush your teeth because he wants to breathe in a nice smell when he’s close to you. That you're only kept in his room and not at one of the slave’s camps because he likes to fuck you.

And you know it. You know it in the way he sometimes doesn't allow you to wear clothes. In the way he doesn't treat you like a person, more like a playtoy or decoration. In the soreness left when he's done.

But sometimes, sometimes you get confused. Because he lays his head on your chest when he wants to take a nap or just feel comforted. Because he keeps you in his room when you know he could just throw you in a cell. Because once in a while he asks about your old interests, and gets excited about things you had in common. Because he gives you things to entertain yourself. Because sex with him is good even when it's not consensual. Because he has a pretty smile. Because he doesn't look like the sadistic dictator who destroyed your city and killed half the people you knew, when he takes his mask off.

You wonder if he still keeps this human side of him because he simply grew up like that and it's too ingrained in his personality, or because he misses his mom and his friends.

It doesn't matter in the end, you're doomed in and out of this room. You're only human, he's a viltrumite. He was made to be a conqueror. You're gonna die faster than he can blink. He's gonna find another pet. At least, you can have some comfort if you keep him happy.

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[thishazeleyeddemon]

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color wheel I made for my students

[campomni]

Scientists are learning how to speak whale?

Camp Omni!! Did you know that there's a research team by the name of SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) who are currently attempting to understand the communicative complexity and intelligence of humpback whales? A researcher from this team, Josie Hubbard, recently engaged in a conversation with one of the humpback whales her team had been studying. She had broadcasted a recorded humpback contact call through an underwater speaker and had found that their whale, "Twain", had responded to their call. This conversation had lasted for a total of 20 minutes. Isn't that wild?!

To find out more about this fascinating research study, feel free to visit the BBC article below: https://www.bbc.com/future/article /20240409-the-scientists-learning-to -speak-whale

Read more about Camp Omni here!

[kitabearuwu]

I agree about the Ben's GF stuff except for 1 thing; Ben being in a relationship with a man instead of his GF doesn't make him a gay stereotype and shouldn't be portrayed as such. It's fans being disappointed about something a bit annoying but it's not reducing the character to a stereotype.

Nah chat, Ben being in a relationship with a man would not be a stereotype and I would never mind that but it is the fans’ attitude towards women and straight-passing relationships you’ve gotta consider

Ever since Camp Cretaceous, when Ben was a small scared nerd character, people have headcanoned him as gay

There is nothing wrong with having headcanons like that and I in fact also used to be a gay Ben truther

But with Chaos Theory, it was revealed he likes women and in fact DOES have a girlfriend

Now, this was awesome to hear, as it meant more expansion towards Ben’s character AND a new character to enjoy. However, a lot of people who headcanoned Ben as gay started complaining about how there was no way she was real and how he should be with Kenji/Darius instead. That is simply just a bad attitude rooted in fetishization of mlm ships. If Ben had said boyfriend instead no one would ever have acted like he wasn’t real, and they’d be waiting in anticipation to see him.

People treat him as if he is only supposed to be gay due to how he acted in childhood and how they perceive gay men. That IS a stereotype, that’s what the mindset is. People cannot accept that Ben, as a man, likes women as well. They act like he cannot be pan, or bi, or omni, or unlabeled, or anything in between. People just want GAY GAY GAY, it’s always been about being able to fetishize gay male ships.

Also..we don’t need another prominent gay ship in the series. We have Sammy and Yaz, which is GROUNDBREAKING. We hardly get canonical sapphic relationships in media, not to mention they are interracial. They are incredibly important representation that already gets slept on by a lot of people in this fandom in favor of gay ships.

I don’t care what y’all say, you just wanna see Ben with a man because he’s your silly little gay white boy to you.

I would’ve been happy with him being with anyone, but there’s a reason why I’m so happy his girlfriend is real. You’ve all got to stop stamping your feet and whining about how he’s “better with a man”..your gay fetish roots are showing and they are blatant.

[milkywayes]

okay so happy pride month or whatever, no one asked but here’s my garrus vakarian dating history headcanon:

he has had 5 casual hookups pre-normandy, which isn’t a big number compared to his peers, and you’d think it’s because he’s an obsessive little freak who’s bad at being a turian, which evens out his good looks and swagger (and for some it does - cue some very frustrated crushes being forcibly stamped out because ‘really? that guy? he yelled at our superior last week in full view of the entire canteen’) but really he just didn’t notice half the advances made at him and the other half he turned down because he was busy thinking about important stuff (like gun mods, or cases, or math) and after careful consideration and weighing the pros and cons decided his time was better spent elsewhere. two of the 5 were with men, the other three with women, all turians. no repeats. he has had zero relationships pre-shepard if you don’t count the homoerotically-charged friendship he had as a teenager, one year before and one year into boot camp, before their very different abilities got them postings on opposing ends of the galaxy (read: elite sniper units on stealth patrol ships vs guy that assists the guy that fixes the lights in a backwater colony). he thinks no one knew about this, but his whole family did know and just tactfully didn’t bring it up. during the archangel years he has 1 hookup mostly because everyone tells him he’s so high-strung and needs to get laid more than he needs oxygen, but he bows out early on because his depression isn’t really conductive to the proceedings (read: she came but he didn’t.) this somehow ends up adding to the archangel urban myth, a true hero of the people asking for nothing in return, wink nudge, which makes him the butt of his team’s jokes quite literally until they all die bloody. he has never been in love until shepard, is initially unable to even categorize the feeling, and unfortunately for him, dealing with uncertainties and gray stuff and undefined parameters are about the only thing he’s actually bad at (besides the whole model turian stuff, if you count that as a skill). so basically his skill tree gets inverted as soon as he catches feelings. previous hookups would have described him as a gallantly attentive but emotionally unavailable, doesn’t save your omni-tool address but remembers your name kind of guy, which he mentions once to shepard. doing so is a faux-pas, though she doesn’t point this out and instead laughs uproariously because just that day he dented his newly-polished armor in his attempt to hold the elevator for her

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Garmasako piece inbetween commissions. I consider this my "Misako convince Garmadon to give up his plan with the Overlord and come back to her and Lloyd" AU.

Imagine the plan was for her to sneak into the Stone Army's camp to bring back the helmet but come back with her omni husbando.

[omniocademy]

How someone from NItris goes camping.... by hanging their tent up high in the air.

[artbyblastweave]

Between Invincible, and The Boys, who does better at handling the problem of "We need to name a bunch of superheroes and can't use any of the names that DC and Marvel grabbed"

In keeping with the corporate themes I think that The Boys is better at consistently coming up with cape aliases that a marketing department would plausibly let them leave the house wearing (sometimes to the point of subtle parody of the blindspots of those same marketing people- Black Noir's name literally being "Black Black" when translated, Stormfront always having been a nod to the infamous neoNazi web forum of the same name, etc.) They also have the fallback of parody- if a name sounds deeply dumb or undignified, it's probably supposed to.

Invincible is more all over the place- They pull ahead in that they snagged one of the last viable direct riffs on Superman's name with "Omni-Man," but they fall behind solely because of Robot. Fuckin' Robot. I understand that they're gesturing at overly-simplistic golden-and-silver-age cape names but I also don't think Invincible is consistently camp enough to telegraph that that's the intent.

[twstgameplay]

[JP] Current Tests

01-Jan 00:00 to 15-Jan 23:59 (JST)

FLORA ATTACK: 225,000HP

School Uniform Sebek Vignette: Sebek, Malleus and Ace

Sebek has Heal (5,154 HP)

Malleus has ATK UP (self/1T) x2

Malleus has DMG UP (self/3T)

Ace has ATK UP (self/1T) x2

Ace has DMG UP (self/3T)

Recommended Cards

SSR: Dorm Riddle, Camp Trey, Dorm Jack, Dorm Jade, Dorm Floyd, Dorm Jamil, Dorm Rook, Dorm Epel, Dorm Malleus, Halloween Silver, Rollo

OMNI BASIC: 95,000 HP

Lab Deuce Vignette: Deuce (water), Vil (flora/cosmic), Ruggie (fire)

Deuce has Continuous Heal (5,000/3T)

Deuce has DMG UP (self/1T)

Vil has ATK UP (self/1T)

Vil has DMG UP (self/3T)

Ruggie has ATK UP (self/1T)

Ruggie has DMG UP (self/3T)

Recommended Cards

SSR: Dorm Riddle, Dorm Leona, Dorm Azul, Dorm Rook [NOTE: Any SSR works in this test, so long as you can deal enough damage and use DUOs. Try to balance your elements.]

SR: Use SRs that would DUO with your strongest SSRs

REMEMBER

For Basic Tests: The list of recommended cards will work better if you keep in mind their DUO potential with SSR cards.

For Defense Tests: Always consider Healers for your team. It is always better to heal on 1st magic of Turn 3 or 5. If you use Continuous Heal, heal on Turn 1 or 2 but watch out for Curse.

For Attack Tests: Firepower!! DUOs are good, but depending on your cards, it may be more beneficial to use cards with buffs than weaker DUOs.

[sol-consort]

pt.1 - pt.2 - pt.3

You can't shake the feeling that something feels off today.

Shepard never really enjoyed walking through the Citadel much of late. The novelty of the Centre-of-Civilisation Hub was as short-lived as the final facedown with Sovereign three years ago.

You placed your drink down, double clicking on the game icon.

How quickly they've become jaded to the sight of the cosmos laid bare in front of their eyes, a mere reinforced window away from the vacuum of space. Its taste still fresh at the back of their throat, the feelings of their own lungs caving in on themselves as their ribcage collapsed.

Scrolling through your phone as the usual startup video played. Checking your dms. Pretending to watch the tiktok clips your friends sent you.

Tightened security, tens of checkpoints, salarians smoking, hanar eating sushi, asari walking hand in hand with krogans, turians dancing with humans in nightclubs. It seemed that humanity found its place within the galaxy during the years Shepard's soul was stuck in limbo. Everything was so different, and yet... undeniably, the same.

The ice cubes clinked against the glass cup, fizzy foam forming atop your soda as they melted, diluting the sugary drink.

It was flattering the first few times an alien gawked at them, attempted to sneakly snap pic of them, ask for a photograph, in that order.

After all, Shepard was a nobody in the eye of the galactic masses the last time they stepped a foot on the Citadel, even if they've had a reputation amongst humanity—but as the remours of their supposed "coming back to life" spread further and further like wild fire, their newly founded fame was becoming nothing short of debilitating.

And no one in their crew seemed to relate.

"See it's because I knew better than to show my face, let the Archangel name speak for itself" The turian attempted to keep a facade of nonchalance, positioning himself so the light reflects just right off of the totally cool badass scar on his face.

"That and the fact no one could get close enough to your camping spot to see your face without being sniped from across the map." Crossing off another item from the list on his Omni-tool, Joker was down to only two items remaining.

You're still at the menu screen.

Shepard can sense the familiar signs of your presence hovering nearby, and yet, their body felt as hallow and cold as ever. Where were you? Why aren't you with them?

"How come I don't get any of that celebrity treatment? I was there too, people! Or do they think Shepard was steering the Normandy with one hand while fisting Saren with the other." That got a snicker out of the turian next to him.

Were you mad at them? Did they do something wrong? Their eyes scanned the various merchandise on the shelves, hoping for something to coax you out of hiding.

"—And with the discount from the recorded endorsement message, the total comes to 1400 credits. Will that be all for today?" The asari cashier chirped up, practised smile and overly friendly tone.

"Yeah, and uh... how much for the Destiny Ascension model?" Akin to an offering left at the altar of a displeased god, Shepard hoped this might appease you.

Or, at the very least, summon your presence to them. This never happened before. They know you're out there. They can feel you at the tip of their fingers, at the ends of their hair, hues shifting in the corner of their visions like phantoms.

"That'll be 500 extra credits, 416 with the discount."

Just their luck.

"Sheesh," Joker inhaled sharply, "Commander, unless you're planning to expand your resume and become an idol part-timer, then our budget doesn't allow for that."

"Who knows, maybe Shepard's devoted fanbase will throw money at us if we stand very still in the centre of the Presidium" Garrus purred back a little to eagerly for someone who was just claiming how not-bitter he is for having his secret alter ego remain secret.

Again. No sign of your presence, your actual presence. Only the vague anticipation of something coming, of the skies preparing to part like curtians for you to descend.

"Forget it," bringing up their omni-tool, Shepard paid for the original items, "let's just get what we came here for and hurry back aboard."

"Aye Aye Captain."

"Garrus, you're on bag duty. Joker—"

You loaded the savefile.

Their breath hitched, and a familiar feeling weighed down on them like a comforting blanket, a spring breeze filling their lungs.

"...I'll head to the Normandy. You two handle this on your own."

Finally, oh how they've missed you.

As the loading screen faded out of view, the world rendered from around you. Shepard was at the very same spot where you last left them, standing in front of the galactic map. The familiar sound of Kelly reminding you of the new emails on your terminal.

Were where you again? Oh, yeah, Mordin loyalty mission.

Strangely enough, Garrus was absent from the crewmates selection screen. You grimced, the bugs are hard a work it seems. Just your luck to get a cursed savefile.

Fine. Sure. Whatever. You won't let that ruin your mood. Maybe it was a good thing. Especially with how immensely disappointed you were after watching Garrus romance scenes on YouTube. Really? A fade to black? Good thing it bugged out, otherwise it'd have been a waste of your time and effort.

Your aim must be sharper than usual today... did Shepard always have these many hitpoints? Wow, that speed, this can't be vanilla. Ugh, did the save editor mess with your savefile?

No way, you swear you reloaded a backed up one. This should be a clean slate.

Not that you're complaining, after all the infuriating bugs and misclicks, being at the other end of the stick feels kinda good for once. You're not totally op, but noticeably stronger than your last session.

It was so fun, in fact, that you kept gunning one mission after another. Even the Garrus bug seemed to fix itself after the Mordin loyalty mission.

You were oblivious to the ticking of the clock, and your now lukewarm flat soda.

And Shepard? Oh Shepard.

They were on cloud nine. It might have been an extra couple hours of playtime for you, but with the amount of progress you've made, a whole week had passed from their point of view.

A whole week with you by their side.

Ah. They see the error of their ways. They pushed back, so you've kept your distance. They made you feel unwanted with their constant display of independence, didn't they?

Their intentions were pure. They simply wanted to prove the existence of their own volition. But apparently, it only served to hurt you instead.

Did you come back because of their gesture of attempting to buy the ship model? Were you watching them from the oblivion?

How they wish to talk to you, have one small conversation, if you are truly a person capable of speech. They're not too keen on the idea of you being a simple benevolent spirit, a mere force of the universe not that different from gravity or the change of seasons.

They're growing closer to their crew, thanks to you, that they can clearly see. Who would've known Mordin kept such a secret? Or the extent of how much Grunt repressed his nature. You seem to care for all of those people, based on the words you manifest for Shepard to say.

Well, almost all of them.

You had a defiant side that broke through whenever it was a one on one meeting between Shepard and The Illusive man himself.

You weren't a fan of Cerberus, they gathered.

Shepard themselves felt indifferent towards the whole operation. They could wrap their head to why a group like this is a necessary evil for humanity, as much as they could also picture why someone would completely resent them—if their previous crewmate's tantrum on Horizon was anything to go by.

Maybe, if you had asked them about Cerberus three years ago, they would've given a completely different answer.

But as it stands today, it's the people closest to them who turned their back on Shepard, whilst the scum of the earth fished their charred corpse out of orbit, nursed and nurtured them, welcomed them with open arms.

How confusing it was to wake up to a world full of anger at them for coming back to life. For supposedly tarnishing the image of a noble martyr.

To prefer them to remain a hero 6 feet in the ground than to see them alive walking on the surface—a flawed person, yes, but alive all the same.

Not like they even had a choice or say in the matter. Their birth, death, and reincarnation, they didn't have a say in any of them.

Which might just be the fate awaiting their future demise, when the bell tolls for them a second time, to die twice in one lifetime, and it won't even be out of their own choosing, but another matter-of-fact forced upon them, another burden to carry, another sacrifice in the name of the greater good.

Unlike you.

You who never forced them into anything.

Always phrased things as a suggestion.

Always asked them to move forward, never pulled them like a dog on a leash to fight their battles.

Became their strength from within, their voice of reason at times of strife.

You who never forced them into anything.

Kind, merciful, thought, pure hearted you.

You chose them to bless with your presence, your guidance, and your selfless labour.

Truly a guardian angel.

You who never forced them into anything.

You saw them as they are, understood them better than anyone else. Not as some tool to use for your own bidding like the council views them as, neither as a mascot to push more propaganda like the alliance have been shaping them up to be.

But as Shepard.

You who never forced them into anything.

With the sunrays peaking through the curtians, the sound of birds squeaking outside, and the sticky dryness of your eyes, you knew you've been staring at a screen too long for what's humanly recommended and socially acceptable.

It took you so many hours, a couple of open browser tabs with guides, but you've finally found all collectable ships and fish within the game.

All loyalty missions were taken care of, all dlc stories done.

Tomorrow, first thing after coming back from work, you're going to immediately book it to the Omega Relay.

Fuck the collectors, fuck the illusive man, and fuck this haunted savefile.

One last mission then it's goodbye ME2 and hello ME3!

-

"You really left me stranded with Garrus on the Citadel?? I mean, what were you thinking, Commander? What, so just because EDI can fly the ship, I'm suddenly disposable?"

"It was an urgent matter, you wouldn't understand. I had something important—"

"IMPORTANT?!" used to witnessing these arguments between these two by now, none of the Cerberus crew on the bridge were exactly phased by Joker's loud burst. "What could possibly be so important that you couldn't wait five minutes for the pilot of the damn ship."

"...."

"Yeah. Thought so. Listen, I know things been tough on you, coming back from the dead and all. But you're seriously starting to freak me out here, commander. This past month something about you just been... off"

"If I tell you, you'll think I'm a nutjob."

"Well, for one: I already think that. And two—" Joker covered the glowing orb of which EDI speaks from, to have an illusion of privacy as he lowered his voice. "Is this about what happened on Horizon? never took you for the type to get hung up over an ex. I could try to reach out and maybe arrange a reconcile dinner—"

"No. Absolutely not. I'll throw you out the airlock."

"Then spill already, Shepard. You're really giving thriller authors a run for their money."

"Fine. Tomorrow, left wing of the Presidium, 5 sharp."

"Nuh uh, you talk right here right now. How can I be sure you won't sneak off with my baby again and leave poor me to fend for himself on alien streets."

"Name your price."

"Your spectre access card, let me borrow it for a day"

"Joker—No. that's a federal crime."

"Umm no it's not? The Citadel isn't part of the federation. It's a galactic crime."

"That worse, you know that's worse right?"

"Then at least take me on a tour inside, please, been dying to know what goes on behind that freaky spectre access only door. Is it like a bdsm club with asari in full body leather carrying your guns around and—"

"No asari, just a shooting range, a terminal, and some screens. I think... a hanar urinal too. Very anticlimactic stuff, still wanna see it?

"duh?"

"you know what sure okay."

[yudrein-aile]

name changes of the official translation

as the turning manhwa has gotten an official translation, name changes were expected. some are bad. and others are just. well. worse IMO. In any case, the wiki will stick to the fantranslation names. However, here is a list of all the names changes so far up to chapter 11.

official name changes list:

Cavalry: Arcane Legion Yuder: Yudrein Ail World Sphere: Cosmic Orb Peletta: Paletta Red Field Rebellion: Redgrass Plains Riots Gakane Bolunwald: Volunbaldt Bellec: Belleck Airic: Ayrik Blue Crown: Blue Pavilion Parklamannuteia Hall: Parkula Mannuteaux Duvern: Dewburn Imperial Knights: Royal Guard Mana hole: mana core Imperial Knight Accomodation: Royal Guard Camp Shin: Robustus Sul: Arcanum Jung: Omnis Divine Sword: Blade of Orr Ever: Eaver Diarca: da Diaca Tain: Tayn / Tain (both have been used) Herne: Heren Zuckerman: Zuckermann