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"Meg was pleased and a little surprised when the twins were excited at having Calvin for supper. They knew more about his athletic record and were far more impressed by it than she. Calvin ate five bowls of stew, three saucers of Jello, a dozen cookies, and then Charles Wallace insisted that Calvin take him up to bed and read to him." (A Wrinkle in Time, Chapter 3: Mrs. Which, page 45).
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Calvin O’Keefe 🤝 Gilbert Blythe
#the only boyfriends you will ever need#do you understand#tell me someone gets it#the way they look at anne and meg means so much to me#my standards are so high because these two#calvin o'keefe#a wrinkle in time#a wrinkle in time book#a wrinkle in time movie#meg and calvin#gilbert blythe#anne of green gables#anne with an e#awae#anne and gilbert#shirbert#i think everyone deserves to be looked at like that
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#polls#poll#literature#books#reading#madeleine l'engle#a wrinkle in time#time quintet#booklr#bookblr#fantasy#sci fi#science fiction#a wind in the door#a swiftly tilting planet#many waters#an acceptable time#charles wallace murry#meg murry#calvin o'keefe#sandy murry#dennys murry#Polyhymnia O'Keefe
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A Wrinkle In Time, Chapter 12 - The Foolish and the Weak
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In which sometimes you can go home again.
The three Mrs aren't quite as they were when Meg last saw them, and shortly it comes about that they aren't fully materialized, but they're here because they were called. Meg says her father left Charles on Camazotz, and Mrs Whatsit asks coldly what they're supposed to do about it. Meg pleads with her to save her brother, but Mrs Whatsit says they can't do anything on Camazotz. Meg asks if they mean for Charles to be trapped there forever, and Mrs Whatsit asks if she said that, but it's not their way to act themselves.(1)
Mr. Murry interrupts to bow to the Mrs, and Mrs Whatsit requests an introduction. Meg impatiently does the bare minimum of formalities. Mr. Murry says he'd like to learn enough about tessering to go back to Camazotz. Mrs Which says, even knowing he can't succeed? He says he has nothing left if he doesn't try. When Mrs Whatsit says he can't go, Calvin offers, but she forbids him, as well.
There was a long silence. All the soft rays filtering into the great hall seemed to concentrate on Mrs Whatsit, Mrs Who, and the faint light that must be Mrs Which. No one spoke. One of the beasts moved a tendril slowly back and forth across the stone tabletop. At last Meg could stand it no longer and she cried out despairingly, “Then what are you going to do? Are you just going to throw Charles away?” Mrs Which’s voice rolled formidably across the hall. “Ssilencce, cchilldd!”
Silence, however, is not one of Meg's virtues. She cries that she can't go. Mrs Which asks if anyone asked Meg to go, and she starts crying-crying, having a full tantrum on Aunt Beast, who tolerates it. Sobbing, Meg says she'll go, but Mrs Whatsit says they don't want her to go unwillingly, or without understanding.
Suddenly, Meg's tears stop, and she says she does understand. She feels tired, and peaceful, but no longer cold. She even looks at her father and feels no anger, only love and pride.(2) Mrs Which asks what she understands, and Meg says, she knows it has to be her, because she's the closest to Charles.
Mr. Murry, however, will not allow Meg to go into this danger alone, especially not after being so injured by the darkness. Calvin says he needs to go, because he's only on this adventure to take care of Meg and Charles. Aunt Beast offers to go as well, but Mrs Whatsit cuts her off before she finishes saying it. More argument, more accusations of the Mrs being in league with IT. Mrs Whatsit explains that life is a little like a sonnet: there are rules, and defined limits, but there's also so much freedom within those restrictions. They don't know the absolute future, but they can act within the rules.
Meg says she'd like to go and get it over with, and Mrs Which agrees that it's time. Meg thanks the beasts, and AB in particular. She starts to say Calvin's name, but he rushes in and kisses her before she can even finish, but turns away before he can see how happy it made her.(3) To her father, Meg apologizes, because she wanted him to do everything and make it so her way was easy. He says that's what he wanted to do, what any parent wants for their children.(4) He tries again to go in her stead, but is again shut down.(5) Instead, he tells her not to be afraid of being afraid. She starts to give him a message for her mother, but stops and says she'll say it herself after.
This time, the Mrs' gifts are not things Meg can touch with her hands at all. Mrs Whatsit gives her love, Mrs Who gives 1 Corinthians 1:25-28(6) in hopes that Meg will understand it when the time comes, as she understood the tesseract. Mrs Which pulls Meg through the tesseract, and as she stands on a hill on Camazotz, she gives Meg her gift: the knowledge that Meg has something IT doesn't, but she'll have to find it for herself.
Meg walks through Camazotz again, alone, toward the domed building, wondering what she has that IT doesn't. She remembers what her father said, about how IT isn't used to being resisted. She keeps in mind that she's going to save her brother. Soon, she's in front of the domed building, and then suddenly within.
Charles is there. When Meg thinks about what she might have that IT doesn't, he tells her the answer is nothing. He says it's nice to have her back, that Mrs Whatsit is a friend of IT, and tries to take her over again. She says he's lying, about there being nothing and about Mrs Whatsit. He says Mrs Whatsit hates Meg, but that's where IT fails. Meg remembers that Mrs Whatsit loves her, unconditionally, and love is what Meg has that IT hasn't.
Meg stands there, and she thinks her love at Charles, so hard that it calls him back to her. He runs into her arms, and immediately, she feels herself swept away, tessered back out. She, and Charles, and Calvin and Mr. Murry are all back home, in the vegetable garden. Dennys and Sandy come out to call Meg and Charles in for bedtime, and Mr. Murry is off like a rocket across the lawn to hug them too. Soon, everyone is in a hug pile, even Calvin.
Meg knew all at once that Mrs Whatsit, Mrs Who, and Mrs Which must be near, because all through her she felt a flooding of joy and of love that was even greater and deeper than the joy and love which were already there. She stopped laughing and listened, and Charles listened, too. “Hush.” Then there was a whirring, and Mrs Whatsit, Mrs Who, and Mrs Which were standing in front of them, and the joy and love were so tangible that Meg felt that if she only knew where to reach she could touch it with her bare hands. Mrs Whatsit said breathlessly, “Oh, my darlings, I’m sorry we don’t have time to say goodbye to you properly. You see, we have to—” But they never learned what it was that Mrs Whatsit, Mrs Who, and Mrs Which had to do, for there was a gust of wind, and they were gone.(7)
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(1) Some people have the ability to go out and risk themselves and march in protests and join sit-ins, but not everyone has the endurance or the resources. Some of us sit in the back, cooking and mending and caring for those who need to fall back before going back out there. We need all sorts working together to accomplish the greatest of goals. (2) I don't know how this would've been better done but I know it feels far too quick and convenient. (3) Less than ideal circumstances but I'll refrain from complaint about potential teen age gaps and consent. (4) Pretty sure Calvin's mom proves otherwise but sure, it's what parents SHOULD want to do for their children. (5) We're spending this much time on the same argument and none on how Meg came around to the right side so fast? Sure Jan dot gif. (6) The verse is about how God's foolishness and weakness are still superior to the best of humanity, but God made the foolish and the weak to shame the wise and the strong, and God chose the "despised things of the world" to humble those who would make themselves out to be great. She carefully leaves off the verses that finish the section: that this choice was made so that no one would be able to boast in God's presence, and it's those choices that make everyone children of God. I go back and forth on whether it's with the intention of making the verse feel less Christian-God-ish, or if L'Engle intended the rest by inference. (7) This whole final chapter has no room to breathe at all, but this is the perfect moment to leave it off, I think.
#madeleine l'engle#time quintet#a wrinkle in time#meg murry#mr murry#calvin o'keefe#aunt beast#mrs which#mrs whatsit#mrs who#charles wallace murry
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I was trying to sleep last night when the planets aligned I guess and I was granted a rather violent epiphany:
Constance Contraire and Charles Wallace Murry are psychic in the same way, and yet their wildly different personalities affect how it manifests.
Whereas Charles Wallace pretty much only uses his abilities to check in on his family and occasionally freak people out because it's funny, Constance chooses to wreak havoc at every available opportunity. This, I think, is part of why Constance could break the Whisperer but Charles Wallace couldn't withstand IT; he's too nice.
However, this aligns with my previous micro-epiphany that Meg Murry and Sticky are similar. Which means that Calvin O'Keefe corresponds with Reynie, and the twins match up with Kate.
At least, that is what my half-asleep brain came to the conclusion of and now I don't know what to do with this information. Someone please tell me if I'm crazy or not.
#i genuinely don't know what to do with this#it felt really important when i realized it#but now i am a bit unsure#mbs#the mysterious benedict society#constance contraire#sticky washington#reynie muldoon#kate wetherall#a wrinkle in time#charles wallace#meg murry#calvin o'keefe
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#17 A Wind at the Door
by Madeleine L’Engle
Rating: 3/5
Pages: 245 (with “Go Fish: Questions for the Author)
Publisher: Squarefish (an imprint of Macmillian)
While the first novel in the series was a breeze to read (it took me about a month), the second novel was more like an updraft that took me about two years to get through (not counting life events). I finally finished it June 2021 by scheduling reading time. I don’t know if many people know that this is a series that follows the lives of the Murrays. The journey so far has been moderately pleasant but also a bit confusing. This is A Wind at the Door by Madeleine L’Engle.
This story begins as abruptly as the previous book ended. I don’t know if L’Engle’s new idea will stretch across the remaining three books, but I see something developing. While the concept was interesting in the first book, this first sequel, at least for me, lacked some of the charm of the first novel. On the other hand, I don’t know what I was expecting would happen to the trio this time around. I thought there would be some sort of connection between the two books but there didn’t seem to be anything, except the smallest hint of the mention of the tesseract as a passive thought but no mention of Mrs. Whatsit, Who, or Which. We are instead taken on a journey to one of the most rooted places in the universe. Along with new characters that help Meg, Calvin, and Charles Wallace on this journey.
We find out during the first few chapters of the novel that about a year has passed since the last adventure and both Charles Wallace and Meg, as well as the rest of the family, have either forgotten that adventure or it’s as if nothing ever happened. And if they do remember it, it seems more like it was either inconsequential or that something like this always happens to them, which being the second novel in the series, it does. We start with Charles Wallace telling Meg that he believes that there is a “drove of dragons” in their backyard. Meg believing that Charles Wallace is exaggerating find that this, along with his high intelligence, is what gets him bullied at school. I find that the village just doesn’t like Charles Wallace. They didn’t like him before because they felt he wasn’t interacting at a “normal” level, and they don’t like him now because he is smarter than everyone else. This town just finds things to be prejudiced about when it doesn’t meet their “approval.” We then find out that Charles Wallace is sick, and help is sent to figure out why and possibly save his life because it is hinted that his life serves a bigger purpose.
In this adventure we come across some new faces. Some good, whose help becomes imperative to have, while others are deadly opponents.
We meet Proginoskes, nicknamed “Progo” by Meg, a cherubim that is partnered up with her to pass a series of tests for both the good of the universe and the greater good.
Sporos, an inhabitant connected to Charles Wallace.
Blajeny, the teacher that guides both Charles Wallace and “Progos” through this journey.
And although he isn’t exactly a new character, we become further acquainted with Meg’s former principal, Mr. Jenkins.
The Ecthori are the villains who are going around the universe destroying and “X-ing” anything and everything.
And yes, like last time, the focus is again on Meg’s struggle with leadership of sorts. But it falls a bit flat this time around. Meg is constantly whining and rejecting the call of her mission before the first test ever happens—which by the by happens halfway through the book. While it’s understandable that she is only a child with an enormous task, constant complaining doesn’t help anyone. We hardly see Charles Wallace after the first quarter of the book and Calvin barely registers in the story. It reads more like a brainstorming idea that is all over the place. It somewhat reminds me of “1001 Nights” where there is a collection of stories framed into the main plot of the bigger story. Unfortunately, at this point, I don’t know what the main story is. But then again this is only the second book in the series. I know that there are a few other series connected to the Time Quintet but as a reader, I personally don’t want to read every other book in the bibliography, so I hope that the questions related to these three characters are answered in the following books of this series.
There are a few things I found interesting in this book. We learn that the communication style Calvin and Charles share is called “kything.” It’s not named in A Wrinkle in Time (AWT). But in A Wind in the Door (AWD) it is described as having the ability to read a person’s mind or feelings as if the person is either “one” with the person or communicating as if they were face-to-face. There is a running theme of “non-physical sight” at every turn from “not everything is as it appears to be” and “there is more to what one sees,” but also seeing by “sensing,” either through “kything” or rhythm of being. This had been implemented in AWT but is picked up again in this story and making it a strong point so that Meg is able to save her brother and the day.
At the beginning of the story, before the adventure is well underway, Meg is worried about Charles Wallace being bullied by the kids in his elementary school. Meg is frustrated that even though her parents are scientists, they don’t seem “smart” enough to realize how constantly he is bullied at school. She mentions this to Calvin, who responds that he might be better off in a “city school where there’re lots of different kinds of kids … [and] [m]aybe he wouldn’t stand out as being so different if there were other different people too.” And that the only reason the twins and Calvin have fared better in their respective schools is because they “play by the law of the jungle.” Something Meg and her youngest brother don’t do at all. It almost feels that L’Engle is commenting on how things could be or should be in society, apart from all the “world saving from dark forces” aside. The two Murry children that refuse to be other than wholeheartedly themselves are outcasts and the twins and Calvin blend to survive. This is survival is on a different scale than that of the “Ecthori.” It is still the same battle where Meg will always name herself before letting anyone “X” her or who she is. In that respect, I believe that Meg is admirable. It does offset her whining a bit.
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You know, stripped of a whole lot of the rest of the goofiness, implausibility, and low-key racism of this book, "grown up Calvin O'Keefe doing ecological crime-solving" really is a movie I'd watch.
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An Inexplicable Change (WIP)
"You jumped in front of me and Charles Wallace..." She spoke quietly, taking inventory of the changes that had befallen him. Calvin's eyes met hers, a slight dazed look on his freckled face.
His eyes were still blue, but slitted, like a cat's, glowing faintly in the darkened cave.
#toasty's writing#a wrinkle in time#current wip#calvin o'keefe#meg murry#charles wallace murry#an inexplicable change#fanfic#otherwise known as: calvin becomes a creature#a wrinkle in time au
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Harrow the Ninth, Tamsyn Muir / A Wrinkle in Time, Madeleine L’Engle
#this was all i could think about the first time i read that scene in htn#thinking about the contrast in their reactions drives me absolutely bonkers#especially after ntn this is very strikingly another time where he's trying to play both sides and claim the moral high ground#how he both admits to wrongdoing but then also sort of concedes that he still sees himself as worthy of worship#it's not 'don't kneel to me'; it's 'not until you know what it means'#he's skinning this obfuscation over by presenting the somewhat illusory opportunity to choose#illusory because he was never planning on her having 'the full story' so any choice would be predicated on incomplete information#he can justify it to himself that he voiced his objection; that he acknowledged that quandary; that it would be her choice#but in the end he would have accepted her worship#as opposed to Mrs. Whatsit taking the Abigail Pent approach of 'Absolutely Not'#that she might have the trappings of what the kids would consider Divine but she won't assert that position over anyone#and neither will she let anyone assume it of her#also Calvin O'Keefe is Best Boy#harrow the ninth#the locked tomb#a wrinkle in time#htn#tlt#tlt parallels#my tlt thoughts#nona the ninth spoilers#(?)
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have you done your daily click
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A Wrinkle In Time, Chapter 11 - Aunt Beast
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In which we are encouraged in a small way to think about why we treat others in a way we wouldn't want to be treated.
Mr. Murry refuses to have his daughter taken from him, which only seems to amuse the beasts. The leading beast says they'll communicate better with Calvin, and seems to detect his fear as they ask who and what he is.
“Tell me,” the beast said. “What do you suppose you’d do if three of us suddenly arrived on your home planet?” “Shoot you, I guess,” Calvin admitted. “Then isn’t that what we should do with you?”(1)
The beast holding Meg suggests they aren't used to alien visitors, and Calvin says Earth's never had any, as far as he knows.(2) They ask if the humans' home is a dark planet, and Calvin says it's shadowed, but they're still fighting. The leader asks Mr. Murry where they came here from, and he answers Camazotz, where his youngest son is still trapped.
Meg is angry at them both for being so open with the beasts, until the warmth flows into her again, easing her pain. The one holding her says they have to take her. Meg begs her father not to leave her like he did Charles, and gets angrier when the beast tells her just what IT did, not to fight, that she's only making it worse for herself.
The beast says that Meg is in danger, and Mr. Murry asks if they can save her. The beast thinks so, but the coldness of the darkness can burn unless treated. But, Calvin and Mr. Murry will be attended to while they wait.
Meg feels unwillingly comforted by the beasts as all three come to stand around her. They smell so nice, she hopes she doesn't smell bad to them, but she knows somehow that they wouldn't mind if she did.
As the tall figure cradled her she could feel the frigid stiffness of her body relaxing against it. This bliss could not come to her from a thing like IT. IT could only give pain, never relieve it. The beasts must be good.(3) They had to be good. She sighed deeply, like a very small child, and suddenly she was asleep.
When Meg wakes, she remembers great pain, but it's over, and she's comfortable. Some beasts are rubbing her muscles with "something warm and pungent". She thinks briefly about how her father wasn't the one who saved her, that was all on the beasts.
One of those very beasts asks if the pain is gone, which Meg confirms, but she can't quite sit up under her own power. The beast says she'll need help for a bit, as the darkness doesn't give up its victims easily. When Meg asks, the beast answers that her father and Calvin are resting, as they and the beasts learn about each other
Meg asks why it's so dark, and it comes about that the beasts don't have a sense of sight, they simply know what and where things are. They can hear the songs of the stars, so why need to see them? Seeing must be very limiting, the beast says, but Meg says no, it's wonderful, truly.
Thinking about Earth makes Meg think of others and, then, her brother, and she asks if they're going to help Charles Wallace. The beast says there's a meeting underway to discuss what to do. They've never even met someone who escaped a dark planet before. Meg worries about abandoning her brother, but the beast says that's not their way, but they also won't let haste jeopardize the actions that are needed. They put a robe around Meg, and tell her that her brother won't be left "behind the shadow".
The beast feeds Meg slowly, talking about not having had a young one to care about in a long time. Meg tries to ask questions, but the beast shushes her and says she must eat and sleep, and when it's warm there will be much to do. Meg asks what to call the beast, who definitely reads Meg's mind and runs through the options Meg's been thinking about. Mother and father are already taken, not sibling, teacher, or friend, acquaintance has no meaning to the beast, but aunt will perhaps do. The beast also dislikes "thing" and "monster", but allows that Aunt Beast might be the most appropriate name.(4) Meg asks Aunt Beast to sing to her, and she does, and it's beautiful, and Meg sleeps again.
Meg wakes, this time, to find Aunt Beast slept next to her. AB wakes up, and asks how Meg feels. Meg feels great, and starts asking questions. We learn that this planet might be called Ixchel, and shares a sun with Camazotz,(5) and they are in spiritual communion with the higher power of the universe, which they conveniently assign the usual Christian masculine uppercase pronouns. However, some of Meg's questions quite overwhelm AB, so she bathes and dresses Meg and carries her back out to her father and friend.
The sight of Mr. Murry makes Meg feel disappointed in his failure again in both him and Calvin, so Meg turns to AB for all the help she needs. AB sits Meg on the bench and serves her. Mr. Murry says they were trying to come up with a plan to rescue Charles, but he doesn't have the skill to tesser accurately, even alone, and the beasts can't tesser onto a dark planet. He and the beasts think the only reason he stayed in the same solar system was because of Mrs Who's glasses, which have lost their special virtue in the using.
Meg asks if they tried calling Mrs Whatsit yet, and at the negative, asks if they even care about rescuing her brother at all. AB chides her gently, and Meg sees how hurt her father is over his failure. But, this only makes her angrier, and she insists they have to call for the Mrs, it's the only option left. AB explains that sometimes the darkness leaves "spiritual damage" behind that's harder to heal than the physical.(6)
Calvin turns away from Meg, and tells her they've been trying to tell the beasts about the Mrs, but sure, Meg can have a go. AB suggests Meg try to explain them, and also the anger and guilt she's feeling about all this. So, Meg fumbles through describing them, but AB says perhaps she shouldn't use words, they're fighting her, just think about what the Mrs are. But, Meg can't shake the visual nature of her memory of them.
Eventually, Calvin finds the words he's been looking for to describe them: angels! Messengers of God. AB almost thinks she got it from that, but it still wasn't clear enough.(7)
“How strange it is that they can’t tell us what they themselves seem to know,” a tall, thin beast murmured. One of Aunt Beast’s tentacled arms went around Meg’s waist again. “They are very young. And on their earth, as they call it, they never communicate with other planets. They revolve about all alone in space.” “Oh,” the thin beast said. “Aren’t they lonely?” Suddenly a thundering voice reverberated throughout the great hall: “WWEEE ARRE HHERRE!”(8)
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(1) And you know what, that's a fair damned question. For all the people who claim to live by the golden rule, an awful lot of them forget it when it's convenient to their fear of the other. (2) Now, Calvin, you know the Mrs aren't human. (3) It's too bad things aren't so simple in the real world, and it's all too easy to mistake some kinds of pain for comfort when you want to believe in the people who are giving it to you. (4) I have really mixed feelings about a lot of this. I could let it go because ~kids story~ but also, no, it's important to interrogate the stories we share with children and make sure they don't have too many unintended consequences we can't talk through, right? So I dunno if it's just because I'm from the pro-monsterfucker end of the queer playroom but I kind of hate that the only other time "monster" appears in this book is when Meg self-describes herself to the kitten in chapter 1, and here Aunt Beast agrees that a monster seems a terrible thing to be. Monster carries connotations of danger, it's understandable that she comes to that conclusion, but also… fuck that, we've reclaimed monsters in the last 60 years and it's for the better. And it's not like beast is much better, a beast carries only ambiguous danger but is definitely considered lesser than a person. But, I don't feel like Aunt Beast naming herself is a reclamation so much as an error in communication to coincide with how the narrative around Meg was already referring to this species. (5) TWO planets in the goldilocks zone? How unlikely. Then again, if Venus had less greenhouse effect, or Mars had more atmosphere, both of those would be reasonably habitable by life as we know it on Earth. (6) It's a very common thing in fiction, I'm sure, but the example my brain goes to is in Final Fantasy X, when Tidus arrives in Spira and has to keep explaining his lack of knowledge of their culture with "uhh I got too close to Sin's toxin." In this case, though, it's important that Meg learn, sooner or later, that she's still responsible for the harm her choices and her actions do. (7) Realistic? Yes. Frustrating? ALSO YES. (8) Finally!
#madeleine l'engle#time quintet#a wrinkle in time#meg murry#mr murry#calvin o'keefe#aunt beast#mrs which
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Escape from Camazotz: TFS, Shadow NINA, and Saving Your Dad From The Fucked Up Idyllic World A Shadow Monster Has Imprisoned Him In
Loads of people have already talked about how this all:
is reminiscent of A Wrinkle In Time. And I agree...to an extent. I even have an initial Thing about AWIT from April 2023.
What doesn't make sense, though, is if that's the case...then whose father is being sought after/saved? The whole point in AWIT is that Meg Murry had to save her father from Camazotz, a creepily idyllic/conformist world created by IT...
...that also serves as a prison.
The capitol city of Camazotz is CENTRAL/Central Intelligence, and it's overseen by IT and the man with Red Eyes, who serves as a front for IT. Something something...CIA...Richard Brenner being the head of narcotics at HNL vs all the NINA-TFS-Mindflayer hallucinogenic drug ties I outlined previously.
Anyway, returning to suburban Camazotz...You know what else is idyllic that arguably shouldn't be?
Henry's current form.
There have been numerous posts relating the Mindflayer to IT (AWIT), which is where the idyllic but unreal nature comes in.
I've spoken ad nauseam about how TFS, NINA, and Shadow NINA all run along the same lines re: unreality/simulation/Matrix-y type deal, with the Mindflayer being able to quite literally run a different version of NINA to entrap Henry in the VR game. What I want to touch on is a section from the big analysis re: Henry's current whereabouts—
Specifically, per the VR, Henry was banished back into his mind in 1984, just before Will's flaying...which, as far as the VR tells us, he had no active involvement in. We don't know where he ended up, exactly, but the banishment does introduce us to the Shadow NINA concept.
Henry, per the VR, may very well still be trapped in the unreality maze of Shadow NINA.
It's also hilarious to to me that AWIT has a stage play...
...because we see, per TFS, this degree of romanticization coming from Henry alongside the unreality (below is also an excerpt from the big analysis)
In the VR, we're told Henry was bullied by his peers, but that never takes place in TFS. Nor is Bob bullied, though he also canonically says he was. This tells me the romanticization feeds into the unreality, creating what I had been saying all along: A nearly perfect dream world...
...until it comes crashing down when TFS Brenner exposes the truth. Henry has a persistent and steadfast commitment to writing off aspects of this unreality that flag it as unreality, and a persistent drive for normalcy. He wants to be normal and happy, and he tries to push down/hide from/ignore anything that says otherwise until he can't anymore.
In short: He's in deep, babes.
However, the real point I want to make with all this in mind: It's 100% possible the leaks we've seen of Jamie and Nell are set in a Camazotz-like Matrix-y idyllic dream world.
It's also possible, given the ties between Nell's character, Jane, and Henry, as well as Jamie's statements on Henry truly having wanted a nice life with El outside the lab and the understanding that parallels between texts and show are NEVER going to be 1:1, that Nell's character is the Meg Murry to Will's Charles Wallace and Mike's Calvin O'Keefe.
This works especially well considering that Charles Wallace is the one who ends up possessed by IT, much like Will has his persistent connection to the Mindflayer, and Meg Murry is looking for her father, which Henry isn't to either Mike or Will...but might be to a Mindflayer-generated version of the daughter he wanted to run away and start a new life with: Jane.
That's not to say Henry would be willing to leave that world, especially if he's got the life he always dreamed of, whether it's a gilded cage or not.
Final additional point: Hello overalls on Meg and flannel+bowl cut on Charles Wallace.
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anyone else think about stranger things s5 a wrinkle in time parallels two siblings and friend venture in to dark alternate universe planet to save other family member and defeat great evil and realize love conquers evil and being different is okay and should be embraced and. calvin and meg and little charles wallace.. will mike and holly🙂. mike and holly meg and charles 😭 AND WILL CALVIN. do you guys know. do you understand. will calvin. mike meg will calvin. Will Byers Calvin O'Keefe. who's "journey as a character reveals the failure of superficial popularity to bring a true sense of belonging and suggests that those who have been deprived of love may be the most capable of showing it" (sparknotes (i love you sparknotes))... Mike Wheeler Meg Murry, who's "self-criticism knows no bounds. In her eyes, she's an ugly, stupid, over-emotional freak whom everybody outside of her family hates. With a self-image like this, who needs enemies? ... And not surprisingly, her attitude becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy: the worse she feels about herself, the worse she acts around other people, and the more people criticize her." (SHMOOP. I LOVE U SHMOOP) and who's "journey to gain self-confidence and embody bravery is riddled with her own insecurity but propelled by her sense of justice and love for those around her" (sparknotes again <3) ????? do you know???? do you guys even know. do you understand. stranger things season 5 episode 6 escape from camazots save me.
#wrinkle in time was my favorite childhood book i do NOT play about a wrinkle in time#it makes me crazy#byler#stranger things#will byers#mike wheeler#holly wheeler#st5 speculation#a wrinkle in time
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It was a dark and stormy night. Out of this wild night, a strange visitor comes to the Murry house and beckons Meg, her brother Charles Wallace, and their friend Calvin O'Keefe on a most dangerous and extraordinary adventure—one that will threaten their lives and our universe.
#polls#book: a wrinkle in time#author: madeleine l'engle#genre: fantasy#genre: sci fi#genre: childrens
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Thanks for the tag, @cleucas I did half of this on my phone then got distracted and tumblr ate it so I had to switch to laptop for that sweet, sweet auto-save.
I also have the kind of ADHD/possible AuDHD where any time someone asks me what I like, I forget everything I've ever enjoyed soooo I will probably come up with better answers in a day and frantically edit hahaha help.
1. Three ships: Rylan all day every day right now. Ummm I'm actually not a big 'shipper so when one grabs me it REALLY grabs me! Starting to dip a toe into Steddie from Stranger Things (Steeeeve Harringtonnnn) even though it makes me sad because I don't think they're bringing sweet baby Eddie back, and, uh, three way animated tie between Bee and Deckard from Bee and Puppycat, Bubbline from Adventure Time, and Rose Quartz/Greg Universe from Steven Universe.
Honorable mention to my first doomed ship which was Clark and Lana from Smallville. Just never got on board with Lois.
(I almost put the Nina, the Pinta and the Santa Maria in here because I'm an asshole, but fuck Columbus!)
2. First ever ship: Maybe Sonic the Hedgehog and Amy Rose? He fast! She cannot catch up! Kawaii pathos! (Although I shipped him with Mina the Mongoose in the Archie comics as a kid RIP to those.) Or Meg Murry and Calvin O'Keefe from A Wrinkle in Time.
3. Last song: Bigger Than Love - Oh Wonder (asdlfkjalskdfj)
4. Last film: I watched some awful streaming romcom with my mom the other day and an equally awful Hallmark Christmas movie. Last film I actually enjoyed was probably His House. Scary and devastatingly beautiful!
5. Currently reading: Jane Austen's Emma on audiobook as I fall asleep and my own writing out loud to see if the dialogue is awkward in a bad way or in a good way.
6. Currently watching: Ghosts (UK - I’ve already seen the US one but I like this better so far). Research/I just like ghosts. About to start House of Usher and possibly Scott Pilgrim Takes Off.
7. Currently consuming: one thousand Coke Zeros but only because I'm out of Dr. Pepper Zero my beloved.
8. Currently craving: Dr. Pepper Zero my beloved.
Tagging some people I want to know! No pressure
(。•̀ᴗ-)✧ (I also have not checked to see if y'all have done it already so sorry if it's a duplicate for you - tag me in a comment if you have I’m a nosy an interested bitch.)
@caesurah-tblr @cloudycaffeinatedcryptid @torchmlp @oh-cawsh @smthsmthclouds @insertlovelyperson @qusok @verloutte @pileontheyears @alinathefirst @andromaqves @electricdecades @sargeantsarmy you just popped up and reminded me I meant to tag you too. EVERYONE DO THE THING or don’t it’s whatever.
That's way more than 9. Whatever I have dyscalculia too. I mean, I'm a rebel.
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