#but you asked for an explanation and I explained my self 🤷🏿‍♀️

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I think you are looking way too much into it being something it really isn’t.

It’s very much true that Anya sees Yor as her safe zone, always feeling safe whenever Yor’s nearby, especially since she’s capable of doing it in a physical sense BUT that does not dismiss her role as the nurturer. Yor’s limitation in house care lies in cooking, which is indeed associated with gender stereotypes but that’s where it all ends. Yor still embodies all these traits. She also shops, helps Anya, and even gives Bond baths. Heck, she’s actually wants Anya to go to school like a normal child would. The fact she’s the emotional back is pretty much proves it. It’s just that now, she’s extremely and physically capably of protecting Anya too.

This leaves us with Loid and Anya’s relationship. And the story is showing that Loid is ultimately Anya’s hero. She practically idolizes him and practically mimics him. She initially is only interested in being his child for the excitement of espionage but after being enticed by the motivation in being a spy, she sees him more than just a cool spy but an actual father she wants to be with.

Anyway, maybe apart from the fact the female character is stronger than the male, which isn’t that uncommon as one thinks eg Akame Ga Kill (Also see “Strong Girl, Smart Guy” on TV Tropes) Loid and Yor aren’t meant to be a “gender inversions” of each other. It’s just mother being a child’s safety and comfort with a physical embodiment twist on Yor’s part.

Look it’s really just all my opinion. Like I said it’s probably not a huge thing it was just something I noticed and thought was nice. And I’m not saying that you have to agree with me but asking me to expand on a point and then just saying I’m looking too deeply at things that aren’t there is a little disingenuous in my opinion.

And Very much did not say Yor was not a nurturer ofcourse she takes care of Anya like she’s her mother. I just pointed out something that I noticed and is brought up continuously online in the story Yor felt inadequate at being a wife and mother and it was literally eating her up inside and a huge reason why was because she couldn’t do these “wifely” duties like cooking etc. I don’t know what to tell you dude that’s a gender role and one that seems to be heavily enforced by the society they live in so the fact she not only can’t do it but is extremely horrible at it and Loid not only doesn’t care but happily takes on the duty himself that’s a subversion. (Also bathing a dog especially a big dog in traditional stereotypes would have been one of those chores assigned to a man like taking out the trash or mowing the lawn so yeah at least in the traditional 50s house wife era)

I was talking strictly in Stereotypes assigned to specific roles in the household and how they are typically assigned to gender. Not who is the more emotionally available of the two. Literally why I said it’s not a full gender flip where Yor is the “father” and Loid the “mother” I think you’re the one looking into what I’m saying too deeply to argue against something I really didn’t bring up.

Loid also plays stereotypical husband and father “duties” he’s obviously the breadwinner, he’s the disciplinarian and Yor takes his lead more often that not (mostly because she felt like an intruder in his family and house but still), he trains the dog, is cool, calm and collected, deadpan all those things you usually associate with a strict but loving father and yes ofcourse Anya looks up yo him and thinks he’s cool and she wants to help him on his mission. And like I have a whole post about Anya and Loids relationship the one u made was just about Yor. I don’t know where you’re getting the idea that I think Loid and Anya’s relationship is surface level because it’s not and I never implied such. (Also Loid was the person that took her out of the orpahanage of course she idolizes him and they hadn’t even met Yor yet)

Again never tried to imply that spy x family is the only place that has strong female character I watched Kim possible growing up I definitely know they exist. Didn’t try to say that they didn’t. But like they are few and far between like think how many shows, shonen especially, can you name where the female lead is not only a great fighter but the strongest person in the show (that we’ve seen)? I’m sure there’s some but it is very much a losing game.

Yors struggles with what it means to be a mother and a wife in a way that is very removed from her own personal femininity living in a society that has as we have seen very strict social laws that people do anonymously and regularly enforce for fear of “suspicion”. That is a lot to deal with and while the dissection of what it means to be a mother is more recently shown in movies and TV it’s still not exactly common and it is nice to see it done in subtle but cognizant way.

I don’t know how to explain that in a world with as many strict social laws as the one they inhabit (and even the one we inhabit) showing Yor fumbling a bit with traditional “motherly/wifely duties” and despairing that all she brings to the table is brute strength (something she’s very much in canon has been told is unattractive) and to have not only those fears assuaged but also reinforce that to the people she cares about her strength IS what makes her so good at her “job” is her care. That’s a gender inversion dude I don’t know what to say. To me this differs from other Strong Girl/Smart Guy tropes because it actually actively engages with gendered roles and what it means to not quite fit in but want too in away that not every show that has those tropes does.

Look at the cooking thing look how it goes from Yor wanting to do it to prove she can be a good mother and wife TM to wanting to do it so she can provide this form of love to her family and the people she loves and she does it by cooking a dish that she loves. I don’t know man it’s great.

I just don’t think you can single out a very minutia throw away point I made in the rags of an entire post and ask me to explain and then get uppity that I’m “looking into it too deeply” don’t know what you expected to happen dude you’re the one that asked and I tried to explain as best I could. I don’t think spy x family is some feminist manifesto or whatever and as I said repeatedly don’t even know how much of it Endo is doing on purpose but he is doing some of it on purpose and there is a point to it. And honestly I don’t think me examining the recurring details layed out in a story all about looking under the surface is thinking to deeply about it. Because sure a lot of the times it’s played for laughs its a comedy first and foremost but not always and the ability to look at the little funny bits make the deeper emotional moments hit harder. So yeah 👍🏿