#but they treated woc like SHIT as well

[tirfpikachu]

Oh we're doing radbrl hot takes? Gladly. I've been lurking on here for 5 years and I've things to say.

Sex dysphoria can be innate. It's rare and the ROGD is bullshit, but sex dysphoria is as real as other mental illnesses. We have Body Integrity Identity Disorder cases to prove that.

It's good to share more awareness to possible consequences and realistic outcomes of GRS + to the fact that it is a dangerous, experimental surgery that may not provide relief. But if you're arguing for banning it altogether you're insane. People have the right to bodily autonomy 100% of the time which includes the right to do dangerous and dumb shit to themselves. If you advocate for banning trans surgeries might as well sign your rights to tubal ligations away because they rely on the same fucking principle.

While we're on that topic you people treat detrans people like shit 90% of the time and only pretend to be normal about them to win detrans people over. Pick one. Also you refer to detrans peoples' surgeries with whichever term the person discussed uses. If they say it's mutilation, it's mutilation. If they say it helped, then it helped. Idgaf.

If I see one more radbrl account fakeclaiming autism (+ others) when it's a well-known factor women are underdiagnosed with it in ASTRONOMICAL NUMBERS I'm going to fucking snap. "But autistic men"- autistic men aren't on tumbrl or tiktok they're on Reddit. Next.

R-word usage. Spesks for itself.

Personality disordes (BPD, NPD, whatever) aren't "just hysteria". In a way that I believe they are because they're poorly named, understudied, disregarded and weaponised by psych industry. These diagnosed have been turned into a target on women's back it's true. And they're almost entirely truama-based. However people with these diagnosed do experience a specific set of issues and symptoms that can't be showed into CPTSD alone. Nuance. We're finally approaching the moment where we can give a name to (usually female-specific) responses to the extreme trauma caused by psychiatry and y'all aren't helping by saying it's fake.

Radbrl is rampatly pro-psych when you'd think they'd be against it and examined women's history with it. Any reasonable radical feminist should be at least psych-critical, end of.

Not done yet! 8) Q+ movement has completely screwed over actual asexual people in every way possible. But actual asexuality (what q+ would define as "aroace") is natural and normal. It's a way for nature to regulate population just like gay and bi sexualities are. Radbrl is both arguing that asexuality is inherently trauma based is just wrong and also borrowing conversion therapy rhetorics lol. 9) You can criticise annoying "ace" people all you want and they are partially responsible for LGB struggles right now but at the end of the day they're just teens on the Internet you're attacking for being traumatised and also even if it is trauma... So then what? They're obligated to recover from that now? How come? Towards which purpose? How would you personally benefit from their healing and that they have sex now? Most likely with men while being women? That what you want? Trauma recovery can be re-traumatising yk. Why'd you wish that on anyone. 10) Women abroad (especially woc) don't have radical feminsm (except maybe 4b which is more based on our rhetorics), they have normal feminism that hasn't been divided into lib and rad because rad is closer to the general feminism that the circus that libfem is. But you still use them as pawns lol. 11) Huge ableism problem, huge racism problem, huge intersexism problem as well. Not intersex so won't speak on that but oh god you're no better than TRAs sometimes. 12) American centrism despite claiming otherwise. 13) Radbrl is Not Immune to Russian Propaganda and can't understand ethnic dynamics in europe en-masse (ref to that one Ukraine poll where a russian radfem was more self-aware than everyone else. Embarrassing eh?) 14) The banwaves took most of the good ones and many TEHM voices that were important for us so now Radbrl is a pathetic shadow of what it used to be debate-wise and takes-wise. Most of discourse now is just regurgitating the same arguments. I haven't read something eye-opening or refreshing in a long while which is why I left. This isn't everything yet but I think others have already said other things I wanted to mention. Maybe I'll pop in later with part3

[low-budget-korra]

I HATE BRYKE

"oh but they made the world you're a fan" fuck that shit. If they were abt to fucking ruined, It would be the best not doing it at all.

If their idea was CONSTANTLY using a bissexual woman of color to be the punching bag of the fandom, better not do her show at all in the first place.

I used to defend them back in the day and years after but now I fully realize that the truth is that they have this weird fetish about Korra suffering, both in the show and outside of it. No other Avatar physically suffered as her(maybe just Kuruk but we don't know his full story yet). They literally made her go through sa and suicidal allegories , shit tons of beating, poisoning and torture. And for what, to make her meet her end in a stupid ass way, absolutely hated by the entire fandom?

Oh and everything for a generic show where the main plot was made just to try to surf in the hype created by Arcane.

As a lesbian woc I'm so disgusted and angry. If all those rumors are true, this is it. I'm out. Thank you Bryke for destroying my hyperfocus and one of my greatest love - that literally saved my life sometimes. I guess this is what Harry Potter fans felt when JK Rowling started to go nuts and act like shit.

I may create a Go Fund to cover my 4elements tattoo.Thats how betrayed I feel

Oh and what rumors? Well apparently they already had test screens back in July where the audience said that Korra was responsible for the cataclysmic event, and not the savior from one as other rumors said.

Oh God I hope this flop so hard that Avatar Studios go broke and gone, fuck it. No material it's far better than new one that destroys everything you enjoy and care about.

Ps: I know if it seems that I'm overreacting but if you aren't woc, you don't know how harmful it is to try to interact with the fandom and 90% of the comments abt your fave are just born and raised in sexism and racism. It's like if the comments were aiming at you bc guess what, usually they are, since those people are the same that make our lives harder to live bc of their hate.

I didn't even talk about Korra being LGBT bc Katara is s8 and guess how she is treated in the fandom. So for Korra, her bisexuality is just another thing to add the hate but if she was s8, she would be hated still

[mithliya]

just know that women of colour, especially middle eastern women, are seeing how silent you all are in criticising this genocide denialism. how so many of u liked and reblogged it and treated it as a fun little debate. how many of u spoke loudly on october 7th and even equated palestinians as a group facing collective punishment and ethnic cleansing and genocide to hamas whenever anyone on radblr showed a sliver of sympathy for palestinians. how many of u, despite pretending to care consistently about women's well-being, were completely silent on what palestinian women are facing today. how many of u jumped in to dogpile a woc on radblr for supporting palestinians and showing concern for palestinians. how many of u were quick to lie that another woc is probably a holocaust denier among other lies due to showing concern over the genocide palestinians are facing today.

"radical feminists" yet you're standing for a US-backed, western-backed settler-colonialist state partaking in a genocide against an indigenous population after already ethnically cleansing that population and persecuting them for decades.. "radical feminists" but you were quick to support military violence. "radical feminists" but you only cared about the israel/palestine "conflict" in terms of the attacks on october 7th but did not give a single shit about the events prior or after that date, about the suffering of palestinian women. ur feminism isn't radical, most of u politically align so strongly with the right-wing and don't even live by most of ur values nor do u actually do shit for women anywhere in the world.

[buttercuparry]

I know sometimes most of us are just playing around in the fandom without any insidious reason. Hell sometimes things are just a vision and we all want those visions to see the light of the day, and there truly isn't anything wrong with that! But if a fan of colour is commenting on your post about something that might be a concern of theirs and you know this concern is related to matter of fandom racism, I don't think they are doing so to personally attack you about something. And if it indeed does feel like a criticism and you know you didn't mean your art/post/whatever else to express any sort of discrimination, I think just talking about it simply can help clear things. You don't even need to go into an explanation. It's really that simple.

I know fandom can get heated and hell despite our best attempts, back and forth tangent of discourse happens. But the way the fandom treats fans of colour not just in the asoiaf side of tumblr but everywhere-it's a bit disheartening. You have people mocking a fan of colour in tags of a post and going "all this discourse for lily white starks". Well you all don't really listen or even acknowledge unless fans of colour are loud, do you? And when they do get loud, you all start having problems.

"Lily white starks" was the point of discourse. That's what many of us who are PoCs in the asoiaf fandom have been saying. They are all the most ashiest whites to have ever whited and race bending is cool as fuck but they aren't 90s animal cartoons where you have two cats having kittens and half of the litter has orange fur while the other half has brown fur. But somehow the character whom fanon deems to be "plain" ( never mind the text says the opposite), whose gender identity gets questioned every now and then ( even though in text they specifically state what they identify as), is drawn racially ambiguous while her siblings look like they don't even have a drop of melanin-you bet fans of colour are going to feel a type of way about this. And till now I haven't seen any major discussion regarding this, not even a peep of acknowledgement that it's a bit weird that the fanon trajectory where people shout "let (redacted) character be ugly" and then this (redacted) character and all who look like her is drawn with brown skin. But wait there's more! The "Helen" of asoiaf universe, even though is said to look like this (redacted) character is often argued to have looked nothing alike at all. So you see how all this shit evolved into the discourse under that art post right? Like it's not like this discontent was bred in a vacuum.

Even now when a new fan comes into asoiaf fandom, after a few months around they know what the dead ladies club is. Because it is that discussed and it should be because Grrm is shit like that. But dead ladies club evolved from being a genuine criticism to a championing a kind of womanhood that posits itself as the best of them all. And this mentality continues to this day and the race bending of certain houses comes from that. You have a fandom that dislikes one of the most important characters so much, that every thing they do is considered a devastation. This dislike is based on the fact that she doesn't really fit in with the kind of womanhood that's considered traditional. It has been literally witnessed how this character has changed the fantasy genre's notion of the "chosen one" but you have dudebros crying foul. And thus anything related to her is bashed more than it deserves to be and you have one of her deceased family members being presented as the devil incarnate. The woman this dead man has supposedly wronged is suddenly a woc, and the whole of the kingdom she belonged to is also a representation of poc culture in fanon?? Like do you see how exploitative this is? And then to further drive in the notion of evil, there came the dominant headcanon where one of the most priviledged and bloody houses in the fictional asoiaf universe is made analogous to real world indigenous pocs who are still fighting for their rights in their own country. It cannot get more batshit insane than that.

I genuinely believe that certain characters were initially drawn in darker shades out of a personal artistic vision. But then this got twisted by the fandom at large to suit their supposed intellectual narrative and bnf artists just simply followed the trend never questioning anything and years and years of this practice got cemented as natural and canon. Never was it questioned why a character ( and all who look like her) who is falsely fanonized as violent and ugly is drawn shades darker and why another character of whom we know nothing of but how violently she met her end is also a woc.

The most recent discourse that happened under the post carries a weight of this particular fandom history. I know there's artistic vision to consider which is why I personally try not to criticize an artist on their own post. This is also a fanart, something given to the fandom freely and I am of the opinion that if it cannot be celebrated then it should just be left alone. But what got to me was that how it felt like through the response there was this tone of trying to turn the tables on the fan of colour who commented. Like the sarcastic commentary on how there is an insistence on Valyrians being whitest white...like dude...hello?? Pretty sure this is on grrm and do you really think this person who is actively frustrated at the racist caricature would mind genuine attempt at being inclusive?! Like I have seen you around, I have enjoyed your posts, I think I even saw you under posts which criticized these particular trends while drawing certain Stark siblings, are you really going to pretend you don't know where the comments came from???

There is also the pointing towards how fandom casts all of dorne as poc and I think we have already established that this fandom is shit. Like I won't lie I enjoy my guilty pleasure of looking at Bollywood gifs representing Dorne, and I think there is this headcanony idea that Dorne is based on North Indian hindu hindi speaking culture. But in same post representing a particular house through this Hindu Hindi speaking culture you have the gifmaker using gifs of the Islamic hajj!!! Like ajaldleryjdlsldldlfg the headcanon then is the idea of amalgating brown bodies and meshing them in homogeneity because that's what we are all over the world right? 😂😂😂

Like I understand the frustration and you really got nothing to explain but it's trying to turn the tables for me (including calling a poc racist when they themselves were trying to address a racist issue)

EDIT IMPORTANT:

I am making this post non reblogable because the assumption on the basis of which I made this post was wrong. The person I have been referencing is a artist of colour themselves- so the core idea of the post isn't applicable. However I still don't know or can't wrap my head around how someone got dog piled on for a comment, and got called a racist ( a poc themself), when they have been one of the primary voices who pointed out many of the racist issues in the fandom.

[dhaaruni]

I really like your takes on politics and stuff so I just needed to vent and see if you agree with any of this.....but there needs to be a major come to jesus moment when it comes to the Dem Election Twitter Dudebros that dems put on a pedestal. I am a vote blue no matter who liberal, but I like to do oppo research and a month or so ago I started following right winger pollsters and right winger election twitter amateurs. Everything, and I mean almost everything, was predicted by them. The glaring thing I noticed was that right wingers on ET used actual numbers and stats to back up their claims, while the Dem leaning ET guys basically had been going off of vibes. "No, you guys don't get it a bunch of repubs will break for Harris, we're gonna get a shit ton of independents, women will make Roe their number one issue!!!" None of this was born out by any stats going into this election and if you watched alternative news sources like 2way, etc. who actually went into swing and non swing states and interviewed people, this election leaning trump was not surprising. The way that the dem dudebros treated anyone with dissenting opinions, especially dems or indies who were bringing up warning signs, felt like borderline gaslighting because they simply did not want to hear it and I think that gave a lot of libs really delusional ideas about how this would pan out. These people also live in a borderline cult like echo chamber where they have no exposure to anyone that doesn't have the most mainline progressive or dem opinions. I have people in my life that lean conservative/trumper and the things they are willing to overlook because they hate dems so much is astonishing, and they are very much a quiet majority. This outcome did not surprise me.

Repubs were never gonna break for Harris, every "independent" I have ever met online or in real life is basically a republican who doesnt want to call themselves a republican, but will fall in line when push comes to shove when it comes to electing repubs because they truly hate dems that much. No woman I know IRL had Roe/abortion be a top issue for them. Maybe a top five issue, but not one or two.

Add to the fact that KH was a woman, and WOC at that, this was never going to be good for dems.

I think many of the very clever Democratic men who post about politics just couldn't really fathom that in toss-up race between a woman and a rapist, the final results will always break in favor of the rapist.

But no, the outcome of the election didn't surprise me at all either and I absolutely hated how mentioning any wariness about Harris winning or suggesting the polls were actually correct and likely underestimating Trump got you dogpiled. And well, look what happened, the polls were within the margin of error and all underestimated Trump. I wish I was wrong about this but I was right.

[ceruleanwhore]

I'm getting really sick of the ways in which some people talk about consent and throw around words like 'grooming' and 'abuse' because it's starting to feel pretty insidious. What I'm talking about is this fairly recent progression with how we've gone from 'don't fuck teenagers' to 'you're not actually an adult until you're 25' along with how any (typically hetero) relationship with any semblance of a power imbalance is deemed 'grooming', with the woman being the 'victim.' It feels like people are just finding another way to infantilize women and, by pushing this narrative that we can't consent to many kinds of relationships, it starts to build back up the outdated culture of women not being able to consent at all.

Grown ass women being labeled as children just because they're under the age of 25 is bad enough, but then there's people who will talk about how age gap relationships are gross regardless how old the younger person is, so then it's also 30, 40, 50 year old women being treated like kids as well. There's also this thing where if someone just happens to look young for their age then people act like that person should never date anyone because, regardless of age, anyone who's interested in them is a pedophile. This particularly bothers me because it's typically said about women relative to men but not like twinks in the gay community or younger looking men getting with women their age, or even women who are older than them. It just feels like something that's presented in a way that's supposed to feel feminist, like the people claiming this are trying to somehow protect women when, in truth, they're just infantilizing us while ignoring men.

It gets worse as, recently, people have started to make similar points about 'power imbalances', one notable example being the Try Guys declaring that a grown ass woman couldn't possibly have consented to having a relationship with Ned because he's her boss. I think it's easy to look at isolated situations like this and feel that way but as soon as you start to think about it on a larger scale, it's so insanely stupid. If you truly believe this, then you also believe that anyone who's ever been in any sort of political office can never have a relationship with someone who hasn't, because of the power imbalance. Poor people can never marry rich, people of color can never have relationships with people of more privileged races (mainly white, but there is enough of a racial hierarchy that I can't really just say white), people can only have relationships with people who are exactly the same age, and disabled people can only have relationships with people who have the same disability/combination of disabilities.

Especially when you combine this with the rise of pro-segregation under the guise of liberalism and the recent push for people to stop having interracial relationships, it really does just feel like it's all about controlling women, especially WOC. That definitely checks out since it seems to be mainly white liberals spouting this shit and we all know there's a major issue with white liberals claiming to care so much about equality when they're actually bigoted as fuck and never bothered to actually unlearn any of that shit, so they can only repackage it to fit their aesthetic. I will also acknowledge that part of this is that women who have their own traumas want to prevent other women from going through what they did, so they say stuff like this because they genuinely believe that these strict limitations on (mainly) hetero relationships will keep them safe. However, that doesn't change the fact that this line of thinking is potentially very harmful and could send us back to 20th century rape culture. Hope enough people don't drink the Kool-Aid and this blows over soon but we'll see. Oh and yeah, don't fuck teenagers, that's still true.

[rosethreeart]

I LOVE UR ABIGAIL ANALYSES the subtle differences in dynamics between characters always gets me heeheeing with a horribly evil grin on my face…

I feel like a lot of people tend to overlook how America being a woman would affect the way other countries–especially ones with shared history–interact with her in favor of talking solely about how it would change the way they View her. Which, don’t get me wrong, is a valid analysis; I looove “power hungry America who kind of scares the shit out of everyone”, I just think there’s a lot of hidden potential in the question of “how would people TREAT her as a woman?”

I know some people hc nations to be sort of “above” things like misogyny and racism because they’ve lived for so long that it’s almost below them at this point to even care anymore, but imo it’s the complete opposite. They’ve lived with/under those ideals for so long that it’s extremely difficult for older nations to really shake them off for good, so while they don’t go off spewing misogynistic bs all day, every day, they do still hold some of those fundamental ideals that (cough negatively cough) influence the way they interact with female characters. (Abigail, in this context)

I think a lot of older countries, especially ones with a heavy history of chivalry/“fair maiden 🥺” ideologies, would be MUCH more “protective” of her, so to speak, because of an ingrained perception of women as needing to be protected. So they’re not protective in a genuinely affectionate way, just in a “You can’t be mean to girls, dude!” way. Which opens up a whole other can of worms in regards to patronization + the way Abigail responds to that but I will Not get into in ur inbox for the sake of your sanity bc this ask is already way too long LOL

ANYWAYS ALL THIS TO SAY, I love your analyses and I especially love how you focus on the physical/ interactive dynamics between characters and not just other characters’ internal perception(s) of a character.

OH MY GOD THABJ YOU HOLY CRAP 😭💖💖💖

YES YOURE SO RIGHT!!! There are so many things that people don’t really talk about when it comes to the “if X was a girl instead”!!! ESPECIALLY when it comes to woc (which I won’t speak too heavily on as I’m extremely white(/white passing)

And while I do think that a lot of nations WOULD be more open minded I still think they have a lot of those negative beliefs ingrained in them still, just because they’re aware that the way society treats them is wrong doesn’t mean they’ve done all the work to unpack all those beliefs and how they’ve been affect by them as well as their role in the participation of it.

Like these are people with really dark pasts just purely based on the nature of their life spans and what they are (I’m not even gonna get into the whole cans piled onto cans of worms that the really bad and morally wrong stuff here). They’ve done bad shit and have been through a lot of bad shit. It would 100% affect the way that they interact with others and even view themselves. These are prideful creatures (for the most part I have options on how Abigail would view herself as a personification, person, and US citizen that beg to differ)! They’re all stubborn as hell and while extremely adaptive towards change (as it can quite literally be a matter of life and death if they don’t) but that doesn’t mean that they completely understand why the change is occurring or what that means for them as a person, let alone to the other nations around them.

also PLEASE do go into it id love to hear what you’d have to say!!!

The internal perceptions when it comes to characters is only half the fun!! What’s the point in analysis and delving deep into it if you’re not gonna SHOW how it affects their interactions! Honestly this probably comes from a place of autism and the need to mask heavily and trying to understand others perception of the world lmao.

[masons-tours]

Mason be more like tom holland get a real poc/woc also Chloe is so f**** beautiful too good for you and Joe

Everytime my mates would ask why i rather fancy ballers like grealish chilly rice sancho well they are the real them not hiding behind some fake persona pr shit like boy grow some mtf balls you aint big like yoi think you are

Chloe is perfect Joe is dirt for treating her like he does.

[jewpacabruhs]

????? new ep was lowkey sexist. they pulled a huge double standard with how they treated meghan, calling her stupid/dumb, not even treating her as a person but more an accessory of the prince…and then the prince got a redemption arc. come on like that was pretty nasty no…and this is coming from someone who loves kyle focused eps. first ep of the season wasnt too bad tho. lets hope for more of that

[wrote this reply up right after i got this but posting 2 weeks later cuz i was meaning to proof read and post but i got busy)

i get ur perspective but honestly ive never thought to view south park thru a sexism lense or to try to condemn them for it. its satire of female and male celebrities is equally scathing, the men are depicted as similarly vapid and irritating. i don't think sp's history of mocking women is particularly targeted and nasty. as i said in my other post (which you sent me an additional anon about so i kno u read it), sp is about exaggerating things, not always accurately, to make a point. and sometimes that means portraying capable and normal women as, what, mid-00s MTV-type party girls? and sure, that's one of the many features of sp that's technically 'problematic', and the reason so many ppl have 'sp fans dni' on their blogs - but we're here, aren't we, watching this bastard show and trying to juggle watching it critically and enjoying the stupidity?

i dunno, im neutral towards meghan & harry, if anything i respect them, but i very rarely have actual firm opinions on the shit matt & trey choose to make fun of, and this was a situation where it was just their usual shitting all over their celebs of choice who i personally have very little opinion on, and i thought that what they were trying to say in the episode was good. sp's only ever been abt making an individual or group represent something, and then using it all as a way to bitch about a genre of prevalent stupidity. that's what this ep did. was it at the expense of a woc? yeah, and usually that'd be immediately condemnable, but matt and trey have pretty firmly made it clear they're in the "we can find stupidity ANYWHERE" libertarian boat. i have enough respect for them as satire-oriented comedy writers to believe that they're sufficiently capable of lacking bias or prejudice in who they mock, for the most part at least, and that's why i can't condemn them for it specifically. though i know that's very subjective, as im aware that lots of people don't think satire is clever and it's just thinly veiled bigotry. but i'd assume the majority of sp fans who actually care about the satirical plots would be attuned to where matt & trey are coming from.

im disliking the way im seeing south park fans on tumblr perceive episodes lately. people forget that it's a satirical show, and it goes so thoroughly over their heads. but ig thats what happens when smth develops a tumblr-type fanbase, and in this case it's at the expense of critical readings of a sometimes rather insightful show. but i digress. i rlly did think the first ep was terrible. this one at least had smth to say.

(update, as of 3/3: the most recent ep came out the other day and it was a tad boring but very much, again, fairly well-done satire. i didnt even check how ppl reacted to it tho, im not rlly caring lately tbh)

[askgothamshitty]

whenever I see white radfems report on men of color's behavior it seems so different than how they treat white men. Like seeing radfems perpetuate blatant racism is so strange and then being like "I love POC women tho!! <3" is so weird because how do you lack intersectionality so hard that you're unable to recognize when your racism against ethnic men is also racist against the women of that race as well. Like I remember that one radfem with that Selena pfp being like "Black men deserve police brutality" like do you not realize that that shit affects black women too?? Why are they also so targeted as well, they see a white guy do something violently misogynistic and just generalize it as "men are bad" but when a ethnic man does it then suddenly its "oh ASIAN men are so dangerous" "ARAB men are disgusting" like these posts just seem like they have an issue with the fact that they're ETHNIC and doing it than the fact that they're MALE and doing it. If they think of indian men as stinky or black men as violent and hyper masculine, it automatically makes me believe they think the exact same things about their female counterparts but they hide it to pretend its super feminist. Most white radfems I've seen are no different than 4chan incels, the only difference is that their womanhood prevents them from being misogynistic to cis white women. everything else still aligns with 4chan neo nazis. from the transphobia and slurs to the blatant racism. But I'm merely talking about the people whom are dishonest about it, self identified "racefems" are a thing and they definitely will make it clear how they feel about immigration and "protecting white women" while excluding women of color or failing to recognize their privilege or not understanding how WOC are harmed by those systems more severely. the only time they seem to "team up" with WOC is when their transphobic since that creates a common foreign enemy and someone much more vulnerable than them both.

Everything you said 💯💯

These people are so racist! They will try to hide it with weak references to “POC women” but they are as white supremacist as your average right wing man! And even then a lot of just are just proudly up front about it and will happily do shit like calling black men “bullet bags”!

There’s never just one kind of bigotry with these people. Not only are they transphobic but they’re also racist and xenophobic. It’s a whole package of hatred.

[samswinchesters]

Heyy dw anon here. hope you’re doing good! Bit late on this review as my uni started up again and I am swamped already. but anyway. Episode 5. Want to preface this by saying I did really enjoy the episode. I am just a bit irritated with our girl Bernadette.

That being said loved the Chee and Bern moments. The whole she dated Elvis reveal had me gaping at my TV like??Damn Girl ok?? Thanks for sharing or good for you or? The writers are really trying to embrace the time period in the funkiest way possible!

Blond man is still being awful, Joe should have scalped him and called it a day but nooo some dumbass had to let Gordo drive the dude ALONE at NIGHT like ofc he escaped, who is surprised raise your hand! Need him executed asap.

then the whole thing with Dean was soso sad but so well done. His words to Bern about them not even being recognized as Americans obviously shook her entire worldview a bit.. and her giving him the necklace and a hug was soooo :((( her internal turmoil over Dean and the draft is so much worse in context with her border patrol job too like Bern I know you want to move up the ladder or whatever the fuck but jfccc get a gripppp. Atp I am genuinely concerned she’s going to leave like don’t you fucking dare!!

Like I get it. I do. Glass ceiling on the rez and all that. maybe she feels trapped (tho if that’s actually the case I would have liked the show to make that more obvious beyond her just saying “I want to find my own way”) And having modern day context for how shit the US border patrol is and how badly women and especially woc are treated in white-male dominated professions (and this is happening in 1971 to boot) helps to make it seem like she’s making an even worse decision if she goes. to me it’s a no brainer, I’m staying. But I really just think Bern doesn’t know any of that, or at least choses not to acknowledge it. Like she saw what happened to Jim in the FBI, come on now. and he warns her too this episode, “-I can come back” “Can you?” *silence*. He almost didn’t get to come back! Bern fr needs to make a weighted decision matrix and figure out her decision that way bc I think the lack of sleep is starting to affect her cognitive activity.

Anyway. Sorry for being a downer this week irl shit combined with the fact that the finale of s1 wasn’t exactly happy is giving me a creeping feeling that ep6 will be a rough one. Hopefully I’ll be wrong and we’ll actually get to see everyone experiencing happiness on our screens, but we’ll see!

everyone dont moveeeee, dark winds anon is back.

OKAYYY so we were a litttleeee off in our predictions HOWEVER I will say, in my heart I know what is chrew. that small scene of them sitting on the floor of her living room…….I currently live there in that moment nobody break the immersion for me. yeah, it was kinda weird for them to say that like at first I thought she was joking but no mames, she was actually being serious 😭

literallyyyyy not a bootlicker or whatever but iirc, cops follow a two buddy rule system so like, the fact that gordo probably gave himself the task of driving this sick son of a bitch on his own by himself bc #ego like omfg shut UP take someone with you, idiot 🙄 it’s like every time they try to shoot at the suspect and never shoot at the tires…these people are making the WORST decisions like if I were in that university, that blond man would nottt have escaped. we’d do a better job than the police -_-

omfgggg that part with dean and bern now THAT….moment of silence bc I almost cried LOL sorryyyy the emotions got to me again. if this was meant to push her into the border patrol route, oh, I’m shaking my fist because what is this show without miss. bernadette manuelito?? like, I’m really scratching my head at some of the decisions that are being made in this season. a part of me respects the route they’re taking, there are parts that I do love, and other parts where it makes me look around the room and wonder what everyone is thinking.

this show has always been bold in its message and like you said, I wish they had pressed more into those issues and leaned into the reasonings. I just don’t want bern to become some weird girlboss whedon strong girl because she’s always had that strength within her. it never had to do with the job, it’s about who she is as a person. exactlyyyy like why did she even apply in the first place when she saw the chokehold the government had on jim…….we need to go back to the drawing board…maybe a nap and a sandwich will do her some good 🙏🏽

don’t apologize for anything, babe!! we won’t always dig every single episode. it can be frustrating as well when it’s a show that you care about and they slip a bit and you’re like I know you’re better than this, girl 🤨 to me, I blacked out and only remember the jimbern moments bc the rest I was like, okay, we’re setting things up but I’m yawning a bit. finale day, everyone. and to those who already saw it on amc+, should I prepare for trench warfare or,,..

[desertgremlin]

Bestie, I just saw that post you reblogged and loled.

I'm having issues at work (too) and because I tend to bottle things up, I've been fuming silentely for the past week. It's also weird because there is another person who has my same position but had been there longer (so I'm seen as her "junior" even though I have the same amount of experience, probably more), so everyone always praises her and they kind of ignore me. And now two other people have started (same team, not same position) and they are being treated like darlings but I did not necessarily get that treatment when I started.

I actually hit the ground running and didn't need a lot of hand holding but ironically that doesn't get praise. I just get more work and responsibility. Not sure if that's just my experience or how WOC professionals are treated but it sucks! So def get feeling sensitive (though I bet your situation is different lol)

But I'm about to pop off today 🤣

Hope you're doing well ❤️ I always wanna message you but I'm like, "About what?" This is literally me finding an excuse haha

BESTIE!

I'm glad but also not glad you relate because 😤😤 that shit sucks!!

"I actually hit the ground running and didn't need a lot of hand holding but ironically that doesn't get praise." SO REAL. I feel like because you're so competent from the jump, everyone just treats it as a given and takes it for granted. So pop off girlie!!

The stuff I'm dealing with a the moment is a lot of passive aggressiveness and lack of communication - not always directed at me (but when it is. refer to that reblogged post, LOL) but it's the work environment as a whole and it is . NOT vibes. Like, if you're gonna say something just fkn say it straight!!!! I'd literally rather that than have to hear snide comments here and there.

But anyway! Other than all of that, I've been well and hope you have been too and omg you can LITERALLY message me anytime about anything and nothing hahah no excuse needed ❤️

[chances-mystical-cabaret01]

You know what I love her, but I really don't like how they made her MORE AGGRESSIVE, MORE ANGRY, MORE IRRITABLE, LESS UNDERSTANDING THAN HER (WHITE) COMIC COUNTERPART WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY MAKING HER A DARKSIN WOMAN.

As a black girl with strong emotions and complex feelings; it's nice seeing us be represented in media, AND WERE CAPABLE OF LOVE? oh yes please. Will I fight tooth and nail for her because she's a woc? WELL YES. Will I continue to defend her because there are men hating her? Yes..

But when you make a character a different race than they originally were; you have to consider how you as a creator are going to make them act in the new series. Because Amber (unintentionally or not ) perpetuates that age old stereotype that darkskin women are more hostile, aggressive, overbearing, illogical, ill-tempered and bitter than lightskin girls or [white women.] Who are typically seen as sweet, docile, pure, non argumentative and overall is just treated as a saint.

And it FOR REAL does not help that Mark's main love interest..is a sweet, significantly more understanding and non argumentative white girl...An the male half of the fandom is so insistent on KILLING THAT GIRL OFF FOR SHIT THAT HAPPENED IN SEASON ONE. LIKE ITS NOT THAT SERIOUS TO BE KILLING HER OFF LIKE HELLO?

And her character just opens a gateway for Rampant misogyny and (worst case scenario) racism. And it's even worse when she's bought up in debates about who is the 'worst invincible character and compared to Omniman himself.. Who is a deadbeat on top of being an actual psycho..

And ANNISA..who is a legit 🍇ist...but Amber Bennett.. Who was a teenage girl who was angry, confused and had no experience with dating superhero's...is worst than the literal s٭x offender.

So I'll leave [certain] parts of the invincible fandom with this, would y'all still act the same way you do towards her.. If she was kept white like in the comics? Would you excuse it and let it slide because she's sexy and caucasian like y'all do with Annisa who is significantly worse by far..

QUICKLY🤨

What do you think of Amber from Invincible?

Unfortunately, because of the horrible writing decision that was made, I have no choice but to hate her. I see people supporting/defending her, but I mostly think that's just out of desperation and spite--and I get it. I liked Amber too, up until she revealed she knew about Mark's identity. I think the writers wanted that to be some sort of "strong" moment for her, but it really damaged her character. Up until that moment, we saw how selfless Amber was; working in soup kitchens, helping the homeless, aiding her community, etc., but all of that, for me, was tainted when she expected Mark to tell her his secret. It's unbelievably selfish. She should've understood that she's not the center of attention. Mark was told by his father, his mother, and Eve NOT to reveal his identity. If Amber really did know he was Invincible, she was being extremely manipulative and intentionally making his life more difficult, forcing him to choose between her and humanity as a whole. She made him stress out and feel guilty for no reason.

Not to mention her reaction doesn't make any logical sense. She cried. This emotion was real. She cried because Mark took off in the middle of a deadly situation, and because of that Amber felt abandoned. Why? She would've known he'd be back. She would've known protecting everyone on campus was more important than staying with her and pretending he couldn't help. Don't tell me that in this scene she was upset because Mark "hadn't told her the truth". Don't insult my intelligence like that, and don't let the writers insult your intelligence either. They made a mistake, plain and simple. She even yelled Mark's name and actively looked around for him after he disappeared. Why would she do that if she knew he was Invincible? It doesn't make sense.

In addition, Amber and Mark had only been dating for a few months. Excuse me, but that's at least a year long commitment I would need before trusting anyone with such an important and dangerous secret, especially since outing myself would also mean outing my family. Amber isn't entitled to that, and she kind of proved it with how toxic she ended up being. They are high school students and she is Mark's first girlfriend. It's completely unreasonable to expect him to spill such a life-changing, astronomical secret when they haven't even said "I love you" yet. The fact that he told her at all just emphasizes how important she is to him, but she didn't care.

Then, when I watched the season a second time, everything changed. I was able to really soak in just how terrible of a character Amber actually is. She's not a good person, she's a person who pretends to be good because she expects a reward. She blackmailed Mark's bully to get him to pursue her. That's not cute, it's conniving. When Mark was "hit by a bus" and hospitalized, she didn't ask him if he was feeling better or make sure he wasn't traumatised, she chastised him for missing their date at the soup kitchen. He showed up to her house covered in bruises, bent over in pain, groveling to her, yet she wasted no time tearing into him. Then, after they broke up, not even a day later she was ready to hook up with some random college student. Mark was lamenting their split while she was ready to pounce on another guy.

Sorry, Amber, but the writers made me hate you.

[becomingpart2]

candy’s argument that the “white pilot robin” aka the (white) female protagonists always has the most stans out of the female characters on the show is honestly one of the wildest assertions i’ve ever seen. like obviously i agree that female protagonists are going to be treated worse if they’re woc, that’s 100% true. fandom treats woc like shit, especially if they’re a protagonist/lead/love interest. that being said, even in cases where the female lead is white, white side characters tend to be more popular. like on almost every teen drama i can think of the white female side character was more popular than the white female protagonist. dawson’s creek, jen was more popular than joey. gilmore girls paris was more popular than rory, and emily was more popular than lorelai. one tree hill, brooke and haley were more popular than peyton. the oc, summer was more popular than marissa. the only tv shows i can think of where the white female protagonist was the most popular are game of thrones (daenerys), buffy the vampire slayer, and veronica mars (where there were no other white female characters in the main cast that were around long enough for fandom to project onto them). and you know what? buffy, daenerys, and veronica still got tons of misogynistic hate even despite their “pilot robin” status. candy genuinely thought rory gilmore was the most popular female character on gilmore girls, when most of the gilmore girls fandom straight up hates rory. she also delighted in rory’s “downfall” in the revival and claimed the only reason people hated the revival was because rory got a bad ending (and how dare fans want a good ending for a female protagonist).

God, yeah. Honestly, it's so complex and difficult to determine how popular exactly one character is, especially with female characters that tend to be so universally hated regardless of their status. I think you can get to different results if you look through different lenses.

I think it's true that side female characters tend to be quite popular and garner more sympathy from fans (especially from the female fans) because they have a more "ordinary" quality that makes them easier for viewers to relate to. Protagonists, especially if they're women, tend to get less sympathy from audiences because they're "special"; they're at the center of everything, all the plot circle around their needs and wants and all the marketing of the show has their face on it. It's understandable why fans have more trouble liking them; people have a tendency to dislike people that are successful in some way and in the case of women, misogyny and internalized misogyny is an important factor.

So yeah, I tend to agree with you that protagonists and female protagonists are more likely to not be the most well-liked characters in their fandoms (I think you could even make a case that buffy is not the one in btvs, what with faith, cordelia, willow and tara's popularity)

At the same time, their faces and stories are everywhere and that generates a lot of engagement around their characters that 1) may cause the impression that they're very popular; and 2) will make fans mad when they think that attention is undeserved and should be redirected to other characters (the side characters that people can see themselves in).

[brotherhand]

t100 spoilers // or whatthefuckever. 

anyway. i haven’t been on here in years. i’m pretty sure most of y’all moved accounts or whatever. but anyway i am fucking angry. i’m not even caught up on s7 but i know what happens and i’m fucking angry. 

bellamy blake deserved better.

but you know what, i am not surprised. the 100 has had a history of killing off its  lgbt+ and poc characters and this is not surprising. ESPECIALLY when it comes to men of color. wells, a black man, was set up to be the male lead. then he got killed off not even THREE episodes into the first season after being constantly used to prop up clarke white savior griffin. only for him to be replaced by finn fucking collins as the resident peacemaker? lincoln, another black man was killed off just because jroth is racist lmao. jaha, yet ANOTHER black man  (a fucking pattern if i’ve ever seen one) whose character went from being a well-written, multifaceted leader and engineer to “lol haha that’s just crazy ass jaha” then was killed off to prop up yet ANOTHER white savior. monty was killed off-screen (but at least his death wasn’t demeaning and it ACTUALLY served a purpose so.... i’ll give them that ig.) and let’s not forget about miller who has been there since season fucking one but never even became a main character while roan, a white dude, who was only around for a season and a half, became a main character -- and mind you, he was killed only a few episodes after being made a main. jroth had the brilliant idea to make s3 a political commentary on xenophobia and decided “hey!  i think i’m gonna make that black man the fascist! and then i’m gonna make that brown man his supporter! and let’s make those white people in brownface the good people!”

but anyway. back to bellamy. 

i have been watching the 100 since season two first aired. i was in the 100 fandom for maybe one or two years then realized this isn’t really the place for me so i dipped but continued watching this shitshow. i watched the 100 writers, for SEVEN SEASONS, constantly sideline his character development in favor of propping up other character’s (usually clarke, again, a pattern) he was supposed to learn from his mistakes and grow into the leader he had the potential to be. that was the natural progression of how his character was set up from the very beginning, he should’ve grown into leadership. but he never did. every time clarke comes into the picture, his character development is hindered. (one of the biggest reasons as to why i dislike bellarke imo) every time they need someone to bear the brunt of their shitty ass plots, they turn to bellamy. (like s7... when they... made him join a cult lmfaoooo) he should’ve grown into leadership, he shouldn’t have been reduced to a “knight”, he shouldn’t have had to constantly bear the brunt of shitty writing. he should have been his own, well-rounded character. and he was on the way to that in season five, i believe, then they went and ruined that, too. i wanted to watch him grow into a leader who can use his head and his heart, i wanted to get invested in his platonic or romantic relationships with other characters, i wanted them to address the trauma he had endured as a child due to the fact that he had to raise a child when he was A SIX YEAR OLD BOY. i wanted them to address the issues that came with his mother basically throwing octavia at him and telling him she’s his responsibility, i wanted him to emotionally grow up and i wanted him to put himself first. i wanted him to learn to love himself and not base his self worth on other people.  i wanted to see more of him with his family -- with echo, raven, monty, emori and murphy. i didn’t want him to fucking die because of fucking shock value. 

you know what i also didn’t fucking want? i didn’t fucking want to watch the show runner CONTINUOUSLY whitewash him, use a white actor to play him as a kid and then later on call him a white male. i didn’t want some parts of the fandom to pretend he was white because then he’d be another straight white dude and not actually a man of color who is integral representation to so, so, so many people. i watched some of y’all say shit like “well, he’s not CANONICALLY brown <3″ and get away with it. i watched both sides of the fandom treat the character in a really, really racist and shitty manner. with some c/lexa stans thinking it’s okay to call a brown man a fucking monkey. some b/ellarke stans thinking it’s okay to reduce him to clarke’s “knight” not noticing how many racist undertones exist in such a dynamic. at times, it seemed like some of you went out of your way to villanize him. (calling him abusive when you didn’t give clarke OR octavia that treatment, even when octavia fucking beat him to a bloody pulp when he was chained to a rock and when clarke shot AT him then later shot HIM. the excuses were always there for them but not him, huh.) and at times, it seemed like so many of his “fans” only liked him when he was clarke’s inferior. keep in mind that, yes, clarke and lexa were both in brownface at some point in the show. and yes i am brown so please don’t try to tell me it was a tan. as a brown person i know what brownface on white people looks like. (if you’re bipoc and  youdisagree, we can have a civil conversation about it -- but if you’re white please do not pretend to know better than me.) keep in mind, i’m saying SOME. not ALL. don’t take this as an attack against you specifically but at the same time if the shoe fits wear it. bellamy deserved better than to be treated like shit by the creator, the writers and the fandom. bellamy deserved better than to have been played by a biphobic abuser. he deserved so much fucking better and i did not know upset or hurt i was by this until i started writing this.

but anyway. he’s dead now. so pce out. 

[jaskicr]

if only some people used their influence and large followings to bring attention to, say, the racism and misygyny embedded so deep in the fandom that most people don’t notice and it’s just become something unconscious, rather than throwing a fit over issues that are far less consequential