#but there are actually REASONS it seems OOC
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oroontheheels · 2 days ago
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Unblock me Donnie Cates, because I can’t believe I’m praising him again??
Venom 3 really changes a person. But not for good reasons.
Again - SPOILERS for Venom 3.
They really did dropped the ball. Whole movie Eddie acts so cold and angry and distant.
There’s like 0 warmth or care from him toward Venom.
Suck ass generally but I think the problem is that writers/producers were Inspired by Donnie Cates comics. But they forgot that in Donnie comics Venom and Eddie had HUGE fight. For a (horrible retcon but still) very legit reason. And that actually explained well why Eddie was distant.
People said that there was deleted scene from Venom 3 where Eddie and Venom had a fight about sudden reveal of Knull and codex.
They should’ve keep it in the movie. Would’ve solved a huge chunk of this movie problem.
Without it Eddie just seems cold and uncaring for no reason and it feels very OOC.
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lucianalight · 3 days ago
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I think the key here is that Agatha survived (as she was supposed to) and Billy actually died. Thus Billy was meant to go with Rio while Agatha was not. Since Billy jumped into another body instead of going to the afterlife, he essentially broke the cycle of life and dead. That's what Rio is angry about, not the act of surviving. I do think that line could have been written better (and yes, please stop using that word mcu), but I don't think it's entirely ooc for Rio to pursue Billy for this. For the same reason, she doesn't want him to bring back Tommy. If Billy and Tommy just start jumping into another body every time they die, they would essentially live forever, which they're not supposed to. Also, I think Rio should've been equally pissed about Thanos just snapping half of everyone and everything away, which broke the same rule.
@catlady48 I waited to read this interview with Jac to answer your comments.
She specifically says they developed Rio as neutral the way nature is. And that Rio has no real control over circumstances of somebody's demise. We also know she can't kill people and that she needs for Billy to turn himself in. She can't take Tommy as well. Because technically neither Billy nor Tommy are dead. Otherwise there wouldn't be an issue for Rio to take them. They just don't have bodies because their physical bodies depended on the existence of the Hex. The Hex is gone and Billy can jump into the closest dead body because of his magical abilities. Tommy can't and needs his help. So they survive. If Rio is like nature why would she care that they found a way to keep living? Many other creatures find ways to survive in weird and more terrifying ways. It's how nature is.
Jac says she did research theories about time for ep 7. Which I think it's one of the reasons that makes ep 7 fantastic. Because it not only matches the mcu world building about the workings of time and free will from Loki series, but also it's close to actual scientific theories. According to this world building in mcu free will exists, nothing is set to stone and people keep making new branches of time aka universes by their different decisions. Therefore "this person is supposed to die at this time" doesn't match the world building. In Nicky's case Rio can offer time because Nicky was ill. Some fatal illnesses can be delayed but can't be healed so it makes sense with the world building.
Moreover taking Agatha instead of Billy doesn't really fix the Billy-can-reincarnate-if-he-is-killed problem. So if Billy should have died why take someone else? This is a plothole that bothers me.
I agree about her being angry with what Thanos did. Because the dusted people didn't die, they ceased to exist. Since no one actually came back from afterlife. But erasing Death from that plotline is Russo's fault.
There were issues with these last episodes. Billy was a bit inconsistent with his characterisation in episode 5/6 and I thought the way they wrote out Jen was really messy. And the way they wrapped it up was also questionable. Also, the Agatha and Rio dynamic seems to be inconsistent as well and that actually bugged me more about Rio's characterisation than the balance thing. No idea what happened with these episodes, but it is a drop in quality in my opinion. Then again, this is the mcu, expectations are low.
I didn't find issues with these but I agree that there was a drop in quality. And I think it's mainly because they didn't take time to show us more of Agatha's background and her relationship with Rio. We should have seen more of her backstory before and after Rio. We should have seen why she thought her only way to survive was killing witches. We should have seen what her love and life was like with Rio and before Nicky. That way their final fight would have been more emotionally charged rather than feeling anticlimactic. Because we would have known the depth of their hurt and pain and what they have lost. And the pov change from Agatha to Billy happened too soon. We should have seen that fight.
Imo Agatha, as the protagonist, has the messiest most unsatisfying arc and there are still so many questions about her went unanswered that should have been explored in a series focusing on her. I wish they'd spent more time on her and showed us what they had talked about for writing her story, instead of keep telling us those details in interviews like how Rio and Agatha have so much history. Show, don't tell rule etc.
"He is an abomination. He is disrupting the sAcRAd balance."
This is the line I have a lot of issues with in regard to the portrayal of Rio. Rio is the original green witch, which makes her also Death. She was meant to symbolize the duality of life and death and their inseparable connection. The constant cycle of birth, growth, death in nature. Maiden, mother, crone. The mother nature.
And nature, has no balance. Let alone a "sacred" one(honestly if I hear the word one more time in mcu I'm gonna scream). In fact chaos is the most natural state of nature and evolution, and the flow of life, is about nothing but survival.
Now the story of course can make up its own rules and world building. It doesn't have to be factually correct. But they developed Rio as a force of nature. Not evil, not kind and motherly. A reality that exists and can be both and neither.
As a character she understands that Agatha's coven and her mother considering her evil and a monster of nature is wrong. If only they teached her instead of shunning her things would turn out differently. She understands that Agatha trying to survive her execution is not evil, it's just her trying to survive.
She fell in love with a survivor. Why she's calling Billy an abomination for the same thing? And Billy hasn't kill anyone to survive. He just jumped in an already dead body.
So this line is directly in contrast with her characterization. I understand that they wanted to up the stakes for Billy to get Agatha sacrificing herself for him. But I don't like the way they went about it because it's inconsistent with what they established from the start.
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aniseandspearmint · 2 years ago
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Chapters: 4/4 Fandom: The Silmarillion and other histories of Middle-Earth - J. R. R. Tolkien, The Hobbit - All Media Types Rating: Teen And Up Audiences Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply Relationships: Fingon | Findekáno/Maedhros | Maitimo, Fingon | Findekáno/Finrod Felagund | Findaráto/Maedhros | Maitimo, Celebrían/Elrond Peredhel, Elrond Peredhel & Maglor | Makalaurë, Elrond Peredhel & Maedhros | Maitimo, Thorin Oakenshield/Being Tricked Into Being Friends With Elrond's Chaos Disaster Family, Fingon | Findekáno & Finrod Felagund | Findaráto, Galadriel | Artanis/Maglor | Makalaurë, Argon | Arakáno/Galadriel | Artanis/Maglor | Makalaurë Characters: in rough order of appearance we have, Thorin Oakenshield, Elrond Peredhel, Kíli (Tolkien), Celegorm | Turcafinwë, Argon | Arakáno, Aredhel | Irissë, Maglor | Makalaurë, Turgon | Turukáno, Arwen Undómiel, Maedhros | Maitimo, Aragorn | Estel, Fingon | Findekáno, Celebrían (Tolkien), Balin (Tolkien), Fíli (Tolkien), Finrod Felagund | Findaráto, Galadriel | Artanis, Curufin | Curufinwë, Bilbo Baggins, Narvi (Tolkien), Maeglin | Lómion, Caranthir | Morifinwë, Haleth of the Haladin Additional Tags: Fix-It, Alternate Universe - Canon Divergence, both tags began in the silmarillion but have rippled down to affect the hobbit too, mildly eldritch line of finwë, me realizing just now after being obsessed with tolkien since i was six that elves are telepaths, definitely not LaCE compliant, Crack Treated Seriously, Alternate Universe - Everyone Lives/Nobody Dies, technically they did die but then they got kicked out of mandos for being annoying, Trans Fingon, Trans Finrod, baby aragorn!, the elves just want to eat smaug, they are the natural predator of the dragons now, Eldritch Peredhel (Tolkien), i misread celeborn as celegorm once and an entire cracky idea came from it, fingon shows affection like a housecat Series: Part 1 of the let love win 'verse Summary:
Thorin thought his quest to reclaim his home was going rather well. Until Gandalf insisted they stop in Rivendell. While Elrond's extended family was there.
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erendreich · 9 months ago
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...gosh, do you think. Would. LOL
Would Cale be into ponyplay??
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frogaroundandfindout · 2 months ago
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“A seven foot psychotic woman in a leather mask is scarier than me.”
“This is necessary because you blew the mission…that was months of planning, work, and sweat that you chose to give up.”
“Yes. I know what you did. It was good work…Don’t think I take you for granted. I don’t. But this fight can’t be won if we pull punches.”
The outsiders watch Grace and boomerang torture a man for information. Anissa asked why they broke interrogation protocol and dick tells her they haven’t and that it is necessary because Anissa broke cover. Anissa snaps that it was her work then asks if dick has any idea of what she had to do to get as far as she did. Dick says he does know and that she did good work. That he isn’t taking her for granted but that they need to consider the big picture (Outsiders Vol.3 #35)
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welcometogrouchland · 1 year ago
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idk how I developed the hc that Raine and Darius were briefly foster siblings in their last year of highschool. But I did. And now I think about it 24/7
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plugnuts · 5 months ago
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Where was this writing energy when I was still writing zero_one?
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prxttybxybxstxrd · 8 months ago
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infloresco · 8 months ago
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Anyway…. Mini vent in tags cause…
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take-ya-to-the-ghey-bar · 9 months ago
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thanks tumbles, for half killing the good vibe i had going while editing drafts--
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stellafortunae · 8 months ago
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I really do enjoy seeing everyone on my dash, and I would love to talk with them... Is it bad that talking to new people scares me?
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concoctionboy · 2 years ago
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Why is your body somewhat discolored
I mean... I guess it's just because I'm made of different ingredients, and not... evenly mixed? So parts of me have more of some ingredients than others.
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Anyway, for whatever reason, when I form into a humanoid shape, usually I end up with a purple left arm and a blue right leg. I guess it's possible if I consciously focused on it, maybe I could move my stuff around and change the location of the discolorations, or even... distribute them more evenly so I'm more uniformly colored, but I've never really tried.
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darabeatha · 2 years ago
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@wistrea​ said ; 💗 KI AND ANYONE LMAO  /  𝐒𝐞𝐧𝐝 𝐢𝐧  💗 𝐟𝐨𝐫 𝐦𝐞 𝐭𝐨 𝐮𝐬𝐞 𝐚 𝐥𝐨𝐯𝐞 𝐦𝐞𝐭𝐞𝐫 𝐭𝐨 𝐜𝐡𝐞𝐜𝐤 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐜𝐨𝐦𝐩𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐛𝐢𝐥𝐢𝐭𝐲 𝐨𝐟 𝐨𝐮𝐫 𝐦𝐮𝐬𝐞𝐬.
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/  SO! Since you’ve done the meme on your way with 3 of my muses, I’ll reply back to it but with diff ones as to see other results; BUT AS A LIL SIDENOTE- I’ve never used -this- specific compatibility site but I have to say that for some reason, the way this is phrased is really making me laugh
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Ah yes! King A.rthur P.endragon, the once and future king, the king of knights, the wielder of the legendary sword excalibur, is dating the chaos witch, Kira Horikoshi! /plsimnotforceshippingthisisajokeokok
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sevensins-stuff · 2 years ago
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I miss the characters obey me used to have...
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hazmatmaid · 5 months ago
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A simplification:
Level 1-upper 2/lower 3: "yeah i can see that happening."
Level 4: "where did that even come from? that doesn't make any goddamn sense/he would not say that."
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it came to my realization that 99% of my fandom related headaches would be cured if everyone understood this
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pa-pa-plasma · 3 months ago
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Oh. it just clicked why so many newer vivisection fics (including ones that happen offscreen) bother me. it's because they always happen post-reveal, where Maddie & Jack know that it's Danny & are doing it anyways (out of character). older ones (like. the ones that got the trend going) always had the reveal happen either during the vivisection for max angst or after if the author leaned more towards a chaptered fic with character & emotional development (all in character). Hm
#refusing to interact with canon & instead playing a game of fanon telephone has struck again#i feel like this is the result of seeing something get popular & loving it yourself even but completely misunderstanding why#this is mostly a writing gripe for me cuz like. the rgw->viv plotline has so many characterization & logistical issues that trip people up#it's not the character development or the plot. it's the vivisection. so it doesn't matter how it happens or how ooc it is right?#WRONG!! WE LIKE VIVIFICS BECAUSE OF THE STUFF YOU'RE IGNORING!!!#this is entirely a writing gripe for me because the rgw->viv plotline creates so many characterization issues that regularly trip people#wouldn't it just be easier to like. just not have a reveal. so you don't have to juggle all that#a good way to get around this is to just have to GIW do it or again just not have a reveal with his parents#but i guess that's not instantly gratifying enough#sorry if im coming across as aggressive im just completely fucking confused why yes viv no reveal plot is basically nonexistent#it's like. Right There. why does it have to be a reveal gone wrong every time#it's not even a ''they don't believe it's actually Danny'' rgw it's just. they decide to vivisect Danny.#for seemingly no reason other than ''let's take a look inside''#im mostly just frustrated that there seems to be no brainstorming or editing or even drafting going on#you guys just write an alpha version of the first draft & publish that. insane behaviour to me#to be clear i mean like. you wouldn't get into that thing where you don't know how to continue & end up going on hiatus for a year#to puzzle it out & then probably never end up finishing it#if you just like. took a minute to at least mostly finish the first draft do a second draft#wouldn't it just be easier to not have a reveal at all so you don't have to juggle all that
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