#but the recontextualization of i dreamed a dream tonight / and so did i / what was yours / that dreamers often lie
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hey guys what's ur fav scene in bapo here i'll start <3 i like the scene "bows" at the end where jason comes back to life and everybody celebrates and nobody questions it, and they bow hand in hand closing the chapter of their lives in high school as they all move on in life, together alive, alive together, coming to understand and really see and understand and hear each other's voices, supporting and accepting that, and
#wynn speaks#bare: a pop opera#ok but in all honesty my fav scene is bapo is just all of bapo <3#i do love queen mab more than anything tho. LIKE#ik it's just shakespeare. ik it's literally jsut from shakespeare.#but the recontextualization of i dreamed a dream tonight / and so did i / what was yours / that dreamers often lie#/ IN BED ASLEEP WHILE THEY DO DREAM THINGS TRUE / OH THEN I SEE QUEEN MAB HATH BEEN WITH YOU...#AND JASON'S HIGH THE ENTIRE TIME... SO HE'S IN NEVER-NEVER HE'S IN A FANTASY... HE'S LIVING A DREAM HE'S LIVING A LIE#AND THEN- AND THEN HE- [STARTS CRYING]#ok i'm normal now
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i’m trying to collect my thoughts on this, and i’m still pretty reticent to post everything i’m thinking, but overall liam’s bit on talks feels like a pretty good microcosm of why i dislike w*dojes in general:
-i think liam mentioning it first on talks (and i do think somewhat that it indicates he doesn’t intend to pursue it) has the effect that talks always has when a concept is introduced there before in an episode: it artificially changes parts of the show and artificially recontextualizes character relationships without events in the show actually supporting it. there’s a lot of jokes about the show being scripted. if liam’s intention was to introduce w*dojes as something he intends to pursue, then introducing it on the ooc talk show before it comes up in canon (and it hasn’t, by the way, but more on that later) will shape future events in canon without actually creating that change in canon. by exposing it to fans BEFORE any canon events relating to it, fans will expect laura and/or jester to respond, when jester’s interest in caleb has never been expressed, not once (again, more on that). this is why largely i think that liam doesn’t intend to pursue widojes, and largely why him introducing it this way as something he wants to happen Sucks
-liam mentioning fjord as a current viable option for jester doesn’t reflect jester’s character in the present tense. jester’s crush on fjord has already been explained as a way for jester to develop as a character, and it’s been dormant (if not dead, as i think it is) for months, if not over a year. the recontextualization of this campaign as “top table is in love with jester” and artificially creating the Race for Jester’s Heart 2k20, imo, does jester a HUGE disservice as a complicated character. laura has already talked about how jester’s crush on fjord was the idealized product of how she grew up and her view of what relationships were, and has explicitly expressed the desire for people to view jester as more than a romantic interest (which, by the way, shouldn’t have to be something she had to ask fans to do).
-attraction on one side does not a relationship make. caleb may be in love with jester, but he has never clearly expressed this in canon (unless you, as a lot of w*dojes stans want to do, count frowning as attraction). he never says jester’s name in that convo with yasha, and actually, i’m willing to bet that based on ashley’s other reactions, yasha was referring to either nott or astrid. much more importantly, jester has never expressed interest in caleb. the largest tendency of w*dojes ppl i’ve seen on here is to completely bypass that fact.
-(this is more of a descriptor of fanon, but this is the fanon that liam talking about this on talks is unintentionally bolstering) w*dojes as a relationship, especially how a lot of people on here frame it, relies really heavily on some really awful ideas like the manic pixie dream girl stereotype, infantilizing caleb via his trauma and neurodivergence to somehow lessen the age gap, and placing jester on a pedestal as someone who will “fix” caleb. it also tries to reframe jester’s upbringing as somehow making her more mature, when in canon and in talks it’s been shown to have stunted jester’s view of relationships overall. caleb is closer to twice jester’s age than to her age, and the two methods i’ve seen of attempts to bypass this are “caleb is mentally younger because he’s autistic-coded and traumatized” and “jester is more mature than her age because her mother does sex work”.
-i don’t really want to get into a drawn-out discussion of how this echoes last campaign, but there’s a reason people joke about matt constantly offering liam’s characters queer love interests that he abandons in lieu of m/f relationships that border on feeling obligatory, and i’ll leave it at that.
-equating all of the top table’s relationships (or lack thereof) with jester does a huge disservice to both jester and to jester’s relationship with beau. jester has actually expressed significant attachment to beau, to spending time with her, to being roommates, to healing beau specifically even though she’s also expressed her desire to do things other than heal in combat. she and beau have actually said they love each other, and continue to do so; beau has expressed romantic interest in jester in canon first; jester has spent big chunks of the last few episodes worried about beau, checking in on beau, getting angry at the idea of beau leaving, expressing anxiety about beau avoiding her, reaching out to her specifically about joining the traveler-- “there is chaos in your heart and i love you?”-- and doing none of this when they were in rexxentrum? and specifically pushing caleb on whether he likes essek and if essek likes him? i just. if this were a m/f relationship, people wouldn’t be putting fj*res or w*dojes on equal footing. at the very least, liam acknowledges that caleb knows jester’s closer to beau, but. you can’t just ignore the very organically developing queer relationships, shadowgast And beaujes, that creating w*dojes from one conversation erases.
-i’ve mentioned elsewhere, but being a queer person watching potential queer relationships play out as written by straight people, part of the excitement is fear, and good lord did liam on talks tonight stoke that fear. if he doesn’t intend to pursue it, great, but it made me afraid and the amount of responses and conversations i’ve had in the few hours since i posted about it are a good indicator that i’m not the only one who feels afraid.
#aight i'm done#don't @ me about getting mad at cast and please think about it#please#fleece.txt#critical role#cr spoilers#anti widojest#anti w*dojes#talks machina#and please god don’t @ me about this being a ship war or whatever#please engage in critical thought
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@musaeon said: [holds up royal ng+ verse akira] you know who this is for / ( kiss meme ! )
goro is well-aware that he never knew how to console people. truth be told, he never really believed in it. putting out the wildfire before it spread & burned unassuming onlookers is only ever a dream-- subduing it just postpones the fit for another day, opens up the doors for another set of bystanders to get hurt in the process. and so, he lets the silence settle nice and heavy between the two, akira heaving on the park bench and taking in the fresh air like it’s a godsend. goro waits for his turn to speak, patient, unassuming.
it’s been a long night for the both of them. akira takes up most of the bench in the empty park-- then again, that’s a given. he’s holding his head in his hands, still hunched over like he just ran a marathon. still shaking, if only slightly. it’s a sympathetic sight, leaving goro completely lost: he wants to do something, swoop in like the knight in shining armor he isn’t, make the whole ordeal just a little bit easier for him. he really doesn’t know how, though.
“ ... can i ask you something? ” the question is redundant; he knows he can, also knows that akira will answer it honestly. the younger boy is sincere to a fault, an absolute bleeding heart with the self-sacrificing stubbornness to match. they also kind of... owe each other the luxury, don’t they? some semblance of trust is necessary if they’re truly going to be allies, no wool over each other’s eyes and no reckless bullshit without the other’s backup. that was their deal.
akira broke that deal. he made a life-threateningly bad decision, never told a single soul, and went out to a dead-quiet park at three in the morning to throw a fit about it. the whole thing sounds just a bit childish-- goro keeps his gaze low and arms folded, legs crossed in the opposite direction. all defensive gestures in the midst of overwhelming awkwardness. it’s been a while since the younger boy calmed down, and neither have had the initiative to speak since then.
“ you’re hiding something else from me, aren’t you? ”
goro could choose to be a hypocrite. he could get up and walk away, leave akira to mop himself up from underneath the birch tree and act like an adult for once. he goes for the alternative.
slowly, surely, he reaches a shaky hand out to cover akira’s own. it’s a small, innocent gesture of reassurance-- more genuine than any words he could come up with at the moment. there’s a bird or two trudging along the pavement at their feet, pecking at the sidewalk for food and providing the tiniest bit of background noise. goro realizes that he probably shouldn’t be looking at them right now. he musters up the courage to turn his gaze towards akira, and instantly remembers why he dreaded doing so for this whole ordeal. he steadies his voice.
“ don’t think i can’t tell. if something’s wrong, i need to know-- it’s part of our deal. i’m not fighting with you unless everything is out in the open. ”
it’s stupid, how easily things like this happen. they were close enough to touch knees a whole hour ago, but facing one another somehow recontextualizes it entirely. akira looks back at him like he doesn’t know what he’s talking about. then, the confused look turns into a tired smile, giving a laugh that’s short and airy-- it makes goro mimic the expression, something like muscle memory at work. they linger like that, grinning at each other like idiots, a few seconds passing and then a few seconds too much. akira, he's... cute when he laughs. it cuts through the cold air of the night, tugs at goro's heart strings, draws him closer to the raven despite himself.
somehow, some way, it made sense for goro’s hands to reach towards the lapels of his dumb little shujin uniform, pull akira forward, close the gap between them.
it’s... chaste, but not short. goro rips away from it almost as suddenly as he initiated it, looking at the other with wide eyes. he’s stunned to the point of silence at something he did himself-- the irony isn’t lost on him as they’re both left giggling at each other on the park bench for the second time tonight.
... right, he thinks, maybe i’m the one who was hiding something after all.
#῾◞ ☆ && answered asks !#musaeon#akeshu /#HERE THIS GOT SO LONG WHAT THE HELL#IDK IF IT'S EVEN COHERENT JESUS CHRIST
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To Sing or Not to Sing in Disney Live-Action Remakes
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Since Disney began rolling out live-action adaptations of its animated classics in 2015, the past five years have seen roughly one new release per year, each one confronting the question of whether or not to attempt the musical numbers—arguably the most emblematic element—without the aid of animation and trained singers.
In the case of movies like 2020’s live-action Mulan, many directors have eschewed the earworm-y songs and complex musical set pieces altogether, with the argument that it’s simply too difficult to manage the tonal shifts from stories that have become a bit darker in translation with songs that are bright and palatable enough for young audiences. But even those movies that have taken direction from successful movie musicals have not always recaptured the magic of Disney musical numbers. Here, we analyze which movies were right to ditch the music, and which get points for trying.
A note on judging: I defined “musical numbers” as featuring singing and some form of choreography, so snippets of songs were out. I didn’t include any ending credits songs (a common factor among these adaptations) in my count since they’re audio-only. Each movie I ranked by High/Middle/Low Notes, which is by no means by any professional musical standards and should be pretty self-explanatory.
Cinderella (2015)
Musical Numbers: 0
Success: High Note
As the first live-action adaptation, there were of course questions of whether Kenneth Branagh’s Cinderella would have its actors crooning “A Dream is a Wish Your Heart Makes” or CGI mice working along to “Cinderelly Cinderelly”—whimsical moments for the kiddos, but tougher to suspend disbelief for when it’s real people in front of the camera.
“I don’t know how to write that kind of thing really,” screenwriter Chris Weitz told Cinema Blend in 2015, “and I think that that’s something that, for me, it’s much easier to do that with an animated film. That’s why many of the Disney animated films are musicals. With live action, sort of getting into and out of those moments of song is really super tricky.”
Instead, Weitz and Branagh opted to score the iconic melodies—which are just as recognizable in instrumental form as sung—to key emotional moments. Lily James’ Cinderella also receives a new mantra: have courage and be kind. It’s a rough translation of the lyrics from “A Dream is a Wish Your Heart Makes”: no matter how your heart is grieving / if you keep on believing / the dream that you wish will come true. But instead of it being a subconscious desire that gets solved while one snoozes, the mantra reminds the heroine to consciously hold strong to her faith in the goodness of other people, and she will eventually be rewarded for that belief.
The movie reflects this in how it recreates the fairy godmother’s (Helena Bonham Carter) “Bibbity Bobbity Boo” scene without the actual song (it plays over the credits) but maintaining the whimsy. Magic replaces music, and the movie does not suffer for the lack. (Let’s also not forget that Ever After, the beloved 1998 adaptation starring Drew Barrymore, didn’t need music to be affecting, either.)
Crucially, it is Ella’s singing that saves her: The king’s men are about to leave her home, having failed to make the glass slipper fit either of her stepsisters, when her voice comes drifting from the attic—thanks to the mice, who may not be able to sing, but who are still clever enough to open the latch on the window. Her crooning of the English folk song “Lavender’s Blue” (when I am king dilly-dilly / you shall be queen) alerts the men to her presence, and is how Kit identifies her even before the slipper meets her foot.
This Cinderella has to do (almost) everything herself, from helping out with chores even before she is forced to wait on her stepmother and stepsisters to charming the prince to securing her own freedom, and is the better for it.
The Jungle Book (2016)
Musical Numbers: 2
Success: Low Note
“What’s a song?” young Mowgli asks before one of The Jungle Book’s two main musical numbers. “You never heard a song before?” Baloo (Bill Murray) gasps. “Everyone’s got a song.” And then he jumps—both literally, as the CGI bear, and figuratively, for the actor—into “The Bare Necessities.” It’s not a skilled rendition by far, but compared to the uncanny auto-tuning in other entries, it actually sounds like him.
The same goes for “I Wanna Be Like You,” wherein Christopher Walken channels his best King Louie: It loses the hyperactive energy of the animated version, but it’s undeniably him doo-wopping his way through the song. Both numbers demonstrate how The Jungle Book ultimately succeeds over later film The Lion King (both directed by Jon Favreau): The CG animals at least resemble the people voicing them, so even though they’re imperfect, they’re still personal.
Beauty and the Beast (2017)
Musical Numbers: 10
Success: Middle Note
The only thing that saves Beauty and the Beast is “Gaston.” This adaptation beats the others in the musical numbers count, but almost all of them fall short of both the animated original and the Broadway musical. (The new numbers expound on the former, interestingly, with very little overlap with the latter.) This video essay from Sideways best illustrates the movie’s fatal flaw: Casting actors who are not singers as the leads. Emma Watson’s Belle has one of the most recognizable Disney “I Want” songs, and her voice is entirely flattened out by auto-tune. In songs like “Evermore,” where Dan Stevens is supposed to convince us that there’s still a man hidden beneath the Beast, he’s stripped of any longing.
The actors who are trained singers, like Audra McDonald as Madame de Garderobe, or who have proven themselves in movie musicals previously, like Ewan McGregor as Lumière, get too little screen time. “Be Our Guest,” charmingly mimicking the entire hospitality industry in its attempts to change with the times with clever new lyrics and dazzling CG animation, winds up feeling like a heartless attempt at copying the original’s magic. The best way I can sum up Beauty and the Beast’s music overall is that the opening prelude theme has more character than half the numbers.
Thank goodness, then, for “Gaston.” It arrives at the perfect point to perk up both its boorish antagonist (Luke Evans) and the audience. That’s mainly due to Le Fou (Josh Gad, bringing a mix of his Broadway experience and his goofy Olaf-from-Frozen charm) and the slyly meta details that he is literally paying everyone in that tavern to start singing Gaston’s praises. As Le Fou keeps surreptitiously tossing coins to ladies to sing over Gaston’s muscles, to men to dance around and mock-duel him, and to the chorus of patrons to keep generating new refrains, Gaston eventually is encouraged enough to take the lead and keep this drinking song-slash-tribute going on ad infinitum until Maurice (Kevin Kline) bursts in. Well, all good things must end.
Aladdin (2019)
Musical Numbers: 5
Success: High Note
Guy Ritchie’s adventurous adaptation is the most successful of the bunch, even though it too falls short of being entirely as convincing as one of the Genie’s schemes. The movie’s stubborn adherence to Robin Williams’ rendition of “Friend Like Me”—again, the Sideways video has more in-depth analysis—does a disservice to Will Smith, who unlike the other actors in this list does have the chops to take on this iconic role. It’s especially baffling that there is a different cover, with Smith in his element, playing over the credits that very much slaps.
It’s not as if Ritchie treated every element of the animated Aladdin as untouchable: “One Jump” gets recontextualized as Aladdin (Mena Massoud) touring Jasmine (Naomi Scott) through the city. As she tags along on his petty thievery, skilled sleight of hand, and ingenious misdirection, she gets to know the street rat better than any dialogue could have achieved. That number is shot a bit frenetically, which comes through in the spoken-word style of singing, but it’s still undeniably fun.
“Prince Ali” has this same gleeful energy, and gives the Genie a little more wiggle room. There’s a great “drop the beat” moment partway through that could have been ad libbed or could have been built in, but either way it’s completely unexpected. Several dance sequences conjure A Knight’s Tale in their anachronistic style but still strengthen the movie by showing just how much Genie can make people do his bidding in service to his master.
Alas, “A Whole New World” is entirely forgettable, and shot so dark that you miss all of the details that made the magic carpet ride such a thrill for the princess and for audiences. Ditto Jasmine’s “Speechless” number and its tragic refrain. If the Broadway adaptation taught us anything, it’s that you don’t mess with a good thing.
The Lion King (2019)
Musical Numbers: 7
Success: Low Note
Finally, the Disney movie that asks why anyone would think a remake is necessary. Without the aid of stunning animation, “Circle of Life” and “I Just Can’t Wait to Be King” fall short of the epic scale of their predecessors, so both early numbers are just underwhelming. Though Chiwetel Ejiofor is a great choice for the voice of Scar, it’s clear that director Favreau and collaborator Tim Rice did not know what to do with “Be Prepared.” Running into the same issue of tonal shifts, they adjusted it to be part spoken-word monologue, part song; but the number itself is so confused that one might get halfway through it before realizing where in the movie they’re supposed to be.
The CG-animated animals lose all character, and it’s incredibly uncanny to watch their mouths open and close without enunciating lyrics. Auto-tuning flattens out supporting characters like Seth Rogen’s Pumbaa, though somehow his and Timon’s (Billy Eichner) cover of “The Lion Sleeps Tonight” is still incredibly charming. And then there’s “Can You Feel the Love Tonight.”
Donald Glover (a.k.a. Childish Gambino) and Beyoncé Knowles were perfect casting for adult Simba and Nala, but the tracks they’re given to work with just don’t match the energy of the original. If you’re going to tone down every single song to either meet an untrained singer where they’re at or to match the other newly low-key numbers, then why have Beyoncé at all?
Elton John’s GQ interview around the film’s release better delves into all of what went wrong with the soundtrack, but even just this quote is pretty damning: “Music was so much a part of the original and the music in the current film didn’t have the same impact. The magic and joy were lost. […] I wish I’d been invited to the party more, but the creative vision for the film and its music was different this time around and I wasn’t really welcomed or treated with the same level of respect. That makes me extremely sad. I’m so happy that the right spirit for the music lives on with the Lion King stage musical.”
Mulan (2020)
Musical Numbers: 0
Success: Middle Note
Five years after Cinderella’s release, the live-action Mulan cycles back to its formula—doing away with all of the songs in favor of instrumental tracks—out of the same considerations of tone.
“It will not be traditional ‘break into musical’ [songs],” producer Jason Reed explained to Collider during a 2018 set visit. “They’re not going to stop their workouts to do a big musical number to camera. However, there are a number of songs that are iconic for the movie and tell a great version of the story and they are very helpful to us in how we’re putting the movie together. It gets a little easier in animation to keep the tension and the reality in place and still have people break into song and sing to camera. We made the decision that we wanted to keep the world—even though it’s a fantasy—more grounded, more realistic so those emotions really played and the threat is very real. So we are using music in a slightly different way.”
Unfortunately, Mulan tries to have its cake and eat it, too, when it comes to the animated film’s beloved soundtrack. A scene with Hua Jun and the other men at the training camp puts the lyrics to “A Girl Worth Fighting For” into their mouths as dialogue, except it comes out jarringly sing-songy. There’s a throwaway line about making them into men that should have just been dropped; it’s mister I’ll make a man out of you or it’s nothing.
But the biggest misstep is with “Reflection”—which, to be clear, is transformed from humble “I want” song into epic instrumental strains backing sequences in which Mulan first disguises herself as Hua Jun, and then throws off her disguise to triumphantly ride back into battle to save her fellow soldiers.
There’s just one big problem: Because Mulan never sings “Reflection” and articulates her ambivalence about the face staring back at her, it doesn’t actually mean anything to the plot of this movie when the refrain plays. That doesn’t stop it from tugging at the heartstrings, but that’s solely a chemical reaction based on music ingrained in our brains twenty-plus years ago. Having two covers of “Reflection”—Christina Aguilera recording a new version, and Liu singing the Mandarin version—play over the credits fills in those lyrics for anyone who doesn’t know them, but it’s retroactive.
Interestingly, Disney brought back Christina Aguilera to record a new number, no doubt trying to tap into audiences’ nostalgia for her rendition of “Reflection.” Personally I would have loved to see Lea Salonga return for “Loyal Brave and True,” but Disney was banking on its former Mouseketeer and pop star to further tie audiences to the original.
What Reed had wrong was that the animated Mulan did manage to balance the drama and grim reality of war with tension-breaking musical numbers. We need look no further than “A Girl Worth Fighting For,” the soldiers’ cheery, jibing ode to their rewards for victory, abruptly stopping short when they come across the burned-out village—a stark reminder that they are nowhere near the end of the war. Now, this live-action Mulan clearly wasn’t set up for that same tone-shifting, but it still tricks emotional resonance out of disconnected musical cues.
Mulan is available now on Disney+.
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