#but the kids and the beta trolls? youre KIDDING ME

[exaltior-a]

Every day I try not to be a hater to people in fandom who completely fall for a characters facade or false perception of themselves. Like girl the narrative device tricked you.

[nekropsii]

Hello, I really like your analysis, especially of the dancestors but there's one part I don't quite get and would apreciate if you could ellaborate on

It's the part about how it's fucked up for them to be romantically involved with the beta trolls, because in the text, iirc, it does'nt seem like it is. They are treated like normal dumb teenagers, not that different than when they died as such, and I know it is canonically possible to go through character development after death, after all, dead Vriska did, but I can't remember the comic indicating that the dancestors did?

They still feel like teenagers and the comic doesn't seem to ever hint at abuse by virtue of their maturity, or include it as a theme or something. To me, that they spent whatever senseless amount of time dead thinking about stuff and never matured out of being teenagers just seemed like the sort of kind of dumb thing you're supposed to suspend your disbelief on for the juicy tumblr parody jokes and ignore, like the comic (imo) seemed to be doing.

Again, i'd love to read what you have to say on this and I hope to not be misremsmbering anything.

Thank you! I really appreciate it. I'm happy to explain.

1.) They are called the Alpha Trolls. Not the Dancestors. "Dancestor" refers to a relation that every single character group has with one another - it means "Person who is simultaneously your Descendant and Ancestor by way of a Scratch", and was actually originally coined by Porrim to describe the Beta Trolls.

The Beta Trolls are the Alpha Trolls's Dancestors. The Alpha Trolls are the Beta Trolls's Dancestors, also. The Beta Kids are the Alpha Kids's Dancestors as well, and vice versa. "Alpha Troll" is more accurate and more specific. They're even called this directly within the text, by themselves even. Best to just use that label instead.

2.) The Beta Trolls are 13 years old. The Alpha Trolls are 19 years old. That is a middle schooler and a college student. That is the power imbalance. That is what is wrong here. This also meets the DSM-5's definition of Pedophilia. Those children are 6 full years younger than they are, they should be completely off the table. This is not an excusable cultural difference, or something you are supposed to ignore, it is framed within the comic as being fucking gross. Meenah's relationship with (Vriska), who was 13, should have already clued you into that. Hell, the age disparity is called directly into focus as being fucked up by Meenah herself. More than once, actually.

NOTE: Yes, I know that 7.5 Sweeps translates to 16 Years - though, more accurately, she'd be 15 Years, since she hasn't even reached 7.5 Sweeps yet. (Vriska) and the Vriska in this picture are two different characters. (Vriska) is the Pre-Retcon Vriska, who died at 6 Sweeps, or 13 Years. Likewise, most of the characters targeted by the 3 offending Alpha Trolls were also people who died at 13 Years - Aradiabot (Rufioh), Tavros (Cronus), and Eridan (Cronus again - cool Incest bro!).

Child Predation is a running theme in Homestuck. The foul conduct of the Alpha Trolls exhibit towards some of the Beta Trolls - Cronus, Meenah, and Rufioh in particular having preyed on 3, 2, and 1 minor(s) respectively and specifically - is simply another follow up on that. We see it with Bro Strider, who abused and neglected Dave so badly that Dave was constantly exposed to and involved in Fetish Pornography, we see it in Doc Scratch, who is directly called out as having a thing for young girls several times and was literally keeping a young girl as a slave, we see it in the Alpha Trolls. It is everywhere. It isn't meant to be looked away from for the sake of memes. The fact that those college age adults are creeping on literal middle schoolers is thematically relevant, and very in your face.

So, like, yes, the Alpha Trolls are still teenagers, but these are the oldest possible teenagers targeting the youngest possible teenagers. Again, this is College Students creeping on Middle Schoolers, and the text wants you to think this is disgusting. Because it is.

[ao3feed-irondadspiderson]

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https://archiveofourown.org/works/55456468 by AindyGhosh “I am his secondary emergency contact,” Mr Stark stressed for the third time. “You saw the papers! They have May’s signature! Why, on God’s holy green earth would I want to compromise your records? Do I look like a kidnapper? You know what, it doesn’t matter! I will need Peter to come with me pronto.” Principal Morita stood up taller as if something in Mr Stark’s speech had vindicated him. “That is what a kidnapper would say.” Or the obligatory sick fic. Words: 2910, Chapters: 1/1, Language: English Series: Part 1 of Tony Stark is Peter Parker's IronDad Fandoms: Marvel Cinematic Universe, The Avengers (Marvel Movies), Spider-Man (Tom Holland Movies) Rating: General Audiences Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply Categories: Gen Characters: Peter Parker, Tony Stark, Principal Morita (Marvel), Roger Harrington (Marvel) Relationships: Peter Parker & Tony Stark Additional Tags: Tony Stark Acting as Peter Parker's Parental Figure, Protective Tony Stark, Peter Parker-centric, Precious Peter Parker, POV Peter Parker, Sick Peter Parker, Tony Stark is Peter's Emergency Contact, Tony Stark is So Done, Tony Stark is Good With Kids, attempted humour, Healthy Relationships, Aunt May is tired of their shenanigans, Mentioned Bruce Banner, Not Beta Read, Alternate Universe - Canon Divergence, Set after Homecoming and Ragnarok, ignores infinity war, ignores endgame, Endgame what? Never heard of it, Friday is a troll, Sassy Friday (Marvel), Awesome Friday (Marvel), Helpful Friday (Marvel), Friday is So Done (Marvel), Tags Are Hard, Irondad, Cross-Posted on Tumblr read it on AO3 at https://archiveofourown.org/works/55456468

[dingodad]

you can link to it if youve already answered it, but how do you think lord english “runs” his empire? by the way you talk about alternia, it sounds to me like you imagine he did play a role as some kind of shadow political leader that made active decisions in the structuring of alternia. is that the case? i think thats really interesting, i always wondered what his rulership over the condesce actually looked like. iirc lord english has only ever shown been screaming and destroying things so i’ve always struggled to imagine if he would even be lucid enough to make decisions or do anything other than mass murder. does doc scratch have some way to implicitly understand his desires and then deliver orders to the condesce on his behalf? or was the caliborn that the “kids” fight at some nebulous time in the “future,” the one who’s soul dirk rips out, not teen caliborn but an actually fully realized adult cherub caliborn who had already been fucking with alternia? idk if that makes sense, the part of the comic where the beta kids are described by caliborn to have been sucked into the juju has always been a little weird for me to wrap my head around. i always imagined the battle happened between them all as kids still but now that im trying to imagine a lucid lord english im realizing they could very well all be adults because we still havent “seen” it actually happen aside from caliborn’s claymation right? anyways. very interested in what your thoughts on caliborn’s active influence on alternia looked like

lots of really great questions! i'll try to get my thoughts in order here.

to start at the beginning of lord english's story: yes, it is an important point that we have no idea "when" caliborn's masterpiece actually takes place; how old caliborn is, where the kids who beat him up even came from... and I think this is because the details in that story don't necessarily matter. while i certainly believe there is a point in caliborn's timeline where a gaggle of teenagers show up and stuff him into a puppet, what we see play out on his claymation stage is a mythologised account of something that happens to him over and over again in many many different ways over the course of his time loop.

so while i wouldn't call that caliborn "fully realised", necessarily, i think we are supposed to see him as "caliborn-as-lord-english"; he has the peg leg, he has mastery over the felt, he's finally obtained the rainbow magic eyes, and while he certainly hasn't encountered the trolls yet, no, he has had loads of practice at being the puppetmaster of his own world as he hones his homosuck craft and uses the terminals left to him by his session to influence homestuck itself! (i don't think whether caliborn is ultimately "teen" or an "adult" is hugely relevant, because caliborn's specific circumstances mean that he doesn't really "grow" or "mature" by aging the same way a human does; he gradually acquires power in different ways.)

related to this, i tend to use the names 'caliborn' and 'lord english' interchangeably. which i know not everyone will agree with, but i think it aligns with the hussie's philosophy that act 6 is about the kid versions of the comic's grownup characters; while, yes, the lord english contained within lil cal also contains sprinklings of equius, dirk and gamzee, these characters are ultimately caliborn's servitors, and i would argue that subsuming weaker personalities into his own is kind of part of caliborn's Bag as a dominant cherub.

anyway, all that is just to say that it's important to be aware that lord english DOES act like caliborn, and isn't just a mindless, speechless force of destruction - at least not all of the time. when damara tries to escape his captivity, he speaks to her in caliborn's voice, and perhaps more importantly, tells us the one thing you must never forget about lord english: he is ALREADY HERE. never be fooled into thinking lord english only showed up at alternia's death and then fucked off into the furthest ring to hunt his sister - his first act was to travel back to the beginning of alternian history and become its architect. notice how as soon as lord english speaks, two things happen: first, the cursor changes into english's reptilian hand; second, we see the puppet hole in doc scratch's back - he was the literal puppetmaster behind scratch's actions the whole time!

so yes, lord english was an active participant in the shaping of the alternian empire, though i think "political leader" is probably the wrong description; he certainly never had any face-to-face conversations or gave any direct orders to any trolls, at least within modern troll history. but that's not what he's about: as the cuestick, and with scratch as his cueball, english's manipulations are more about lining up the perfect shot, executing a precision strike, and then letting events play out exactly as planned.

probably the most influential of these precision strikes was establishing the subjugglator cult, who worship him and his puppet as twin mirthful messiahs; while we don't know exactly how he did this, it's not hard to imagine it had something to do with appearing to them as an all-powerful angel at the very dawn of their society. compare this to how the condesce makes cordial visits to every planet she passes on her journey through the stars, then fucks off to let her army of trolls decimate the place. after all, scratch operates in exactly the same way: he doesn't waste his time constantly relaying orders to his proteges, but rather grooms them when they're still young, turning them into his unwitting soldiers so that when he finally does intervene he's only telling them to do things that "deep down, they already know they want to do." (commentary from Homestuck: Book 4, p. 216)

while the condesce formally becomes english's puppet when she kills the handmaid - inheriting both the rustblood's curse and essentially taking up scratch's role on earth - it's not like she was ever particularly hands-on when it came to helming the metaphorical ship herself. in porrim's words, she was "the Lo+rd's slave all alo+ng [...] thro+ugh manipulatio+n by his cunning emplo+yee", but what the condesce enjoys doing most is delegating! on alternia she gave most of her authority to the subjugglators, and then did the exact same shit again on earth. remember meenah never wanted the responsibilities of heiress, and ran to beforus' pink moon to escape them; the way i see it, the condesce rushing off into space to explore the galaxy instead of overseeing the planet she's responsible for is just a repeat of the same behaviour, and doing so left a power vacuum for english to essentially insert his own guys into. (possibly thematically relevant, since lord english's role is fundamentally to shoot balls into unfilled dark pockets.)

in short, english is cleverer - or at least, more competent - than we give him credit for. it's just that rather than a chess master who moves each piece to its proper place individually, he's playing pool; if you line up just the right shot, you only need to make one move, and the balls will play the rest of the moves off of each other. looked at another way, as the Lord of Time and master of the alpha timeline, english makes his moves by controlling inevitability itself. he engineers things so that events can only play out in the exact way he wants them to, and all other options are doomed. and to do that, he only needs to be present at key moments in alternia's history - most importantly its very beginning and its very end.

[shittyjadedaily]

One of those lists of shitty/daily/character/homestuck/gimmick accounts*

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[caligvlasaqvarivm]

Idk if anyone asked you this, but what's your take on the alpha kids?

I have a feeling that the alpha kids were a bit rushed? Especially Jane! (because of the trickster stuff + her being controlled by the Condesce) And the problem Dirk and Jake had was resolved so quickly that idk, it didn't feel natural to me??

ANYWAYS, I just want to know your thoughts on the alpha kids and how they would work things out and everything! :)

Less "rushed" and more "literally unfinished" imo - the same with almost all of the rest of the cast. They do get themselves into drama a lot faster than the beta kids do, but by that point in the comic, we kind of Get It, y'know? We did the song and dance already with the beta kids and trolls, there's no real reason to draw it out.

That being said, I do think if I had any major writing critique for Homestuck - like if I were being paid to edit it professionally for some sort of hypothetical director's cut - then it would be to have the alpha kids have more of a presence through acts 1-5, even if not necessarily the alpha kids exactly. More stuff like Jake sending John a happy birthday letter. Bro Strider/Momlonde/Nannasprite remain mysterious and vague in ways I think don't necessarily contribute to the story; it'd be neat, for example, for Rose to have stumbled upon some of her Mom's writings from when she was a kid, or for some second avatar of Bro in the form of a programmed robot to heckle Dave and foreshadow Dirk's splintered self/HAL.

This isn't to say I think Hussie did a BAD job, it's just going to be an issue with serial works in general - the alpha kids, their personalities, and their drama were not fully developed, if at all, at the time that the guardians were introduced, so there are things that Act 1-4 Hussie literally could not have written in that Act 5-6 Hussie probably would've. Hence, this would be a change to make in a theoretical director's cut; adding more alpha kid presence in Acts 1-4 makes it so we have to play less catch-up when the alpha kids are properly introduced.

As for how their arcs resolve... or, rather, literally don't resolve. Well, I personally believe that everything after Game Over is a heavily truncated version of the ending that was originally intended, and the alpha kids - along with most of the other characters - were kind of at the low points of their respective character arcs when Condy showed up and shit went south, and never really get the chance to pull themselves out. So, y'know, I personally believe the original ending would have had... more of that. I'm realizing now that, with the way retcon/dream/etc. mechanics work, it's totally possible for Roxy to have made a Choice with Nyx to die, but transfer her memories to an earlier version of herself, and for (Dirk) to finally make it out of the Furthest Ring to arrive in a completely different timeline. and it would be really funny

[somberauthor]

Masterlist!

Homestuck

John Egbert finds out you haven't watched ghostbusters

John Egbert <3 reader (HEADCANONS)

John Egbert and you have a sleepover

Rose Lalonde gets given a dress you made

Rose Lalonde + Jade Harley <> Reader (HEADCANONS)

Dave Strider and john egbert fight over glasses

Dave Strider gets called by his middle name

Dave Strider talks to karkat very seriously

Dave Strider <3< Reader (HEADCANONS)

Dave Strider tells john that nic cage is most likely dead

Dave Strider <3 Reader (HEADCANONS)

Dave Strider falling asleep on call with you

Dave Strider finds out your horns are sensitive (SFW, its not weird)

Strider cuddling headcanons

Beta Kids Sleepover (HEADCANONS)

Humanstuck (HEADCANONS)

Aradia Megido <3 Troll! Reader (HEADCANONS)

Aradia Megido <3 Fem! Horror Artist! Reader (HEADCANONS)

Tavros Nitram gets pushed around in his wheelchair

Mituna Captor plays just dance with you (HEADCANONS)

Karkat Vantas + Sollux Captor <3 AFAB! Reader (PERIOD HEADCANONS)

Karkat Vantas <3 Reader (STORY)

Kanaya Maryam, John Egbert, and Equius Zahhak with a S/O with a high pain tolerance

Eridan Ampora <3 Reader (HEADCANONS + STORY)

Feferi Peixes <3 Reader (HEADCANONS)

Hiveswap

Marvus Xoloto <> PurpleBlood! Masc! Reader (HEADCANONS)

Chahut Maenad + Marvus Xoloto <3 Human! Reader (STORY)

Karako Pierot <> Reader (HEADCANONS)

Vast Error

Arcjec Voorat <3 Reader (HEADCANONS)

Hamifi Hekrix <3 Reader (HEADCANONS)

Edolon Vryche <3 Mirthamaniac! Reader (HEADCANONS)

Calder Kerian <3 Reader (HEADCANONS)

Calder Kerian <3 Reader (HEADCANONS) but fluffier

Void Bound

Formik Amoros <3 Reader (HEADCANONS)

Metalocalypse

Toki + Reader (HEADCANONS)

TADC (The Amazing Digital Circus)

Cast + TV head! Male! Reader (HEADCANONS)

Kinger + Reader (STORY)

Kinger + Reader PT 2 (STORY)

Ragatha + Everyone (STORY)

Jax x Clueless! Reader (HEADCANONS)

Jax x Fox! Mime! Reader (HEADCANONS)

Jax x Chaotic! Reader (HEADCANONS)

Jax x Reader failed rizz (STORY)

Jax x Reader first kiss (HEADCANONS)

Jax x Nonverbal! Reader (STORY)

Jax x Sensitive! Bunny! Reader (HEADCANONS)

Pomni Shows Jax Tumblr (STORY)

DANGANRONPA

Chihiro Fujisaki + Reader (STORY) !ANGST!

Parent Au! Komahina + Reader (HEADCANONS)

Parent Au! Komahina + Reader comfort (HEADCANONS)

Parent Au! Naegiri + Reader (HEADCANONS)

ADVENTURE TIME/FIONNA AND CAKE

Fionna Campbell x Reader (HEADCANONS)

Farmworld Finn x Trans Masc! Reader (HEADCANONS)

HELLUVA BOSS

Octavia and you share music tastes

MISCELLANIOUS

Axeofshame x Dr. Catatonic

part two... ^

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[davekat-sucks]

Let me throw in my two cents for the Rule 63 names just because I wanted to think this through myself. - For the kids, the ones in parentheses are alternate suggestions. - Dawn and Dusk I took from suggestions on here. I love them! - For the trolls there are multiple suggestions because I want their names to have meaning - I'd love to hear your favorites out of all of these Beta Kids: John > Joan (Jess, Joni) Rose > Ross (Rory, Ryan) Dave > Dawn (Davi, Dove, Dani) Jade > Joel (Jace, Jode)

Alpha Kids: Jane > Josh (Jace, Judd) Roxy > Roco (Remy, Ronn, Robb) Dirk > Dusk (Dara, Diri) Jake > Jodi (Jace, Jaka, Joye) Beta Trolls: Aradia > Averan (Lake Avernus was believed to be the entrance to the underworld to the ancient Romans) Abraxa (Abraxas, ruler over many heavens and circles of creation, is labeled as a demon or the God above Gods) Azatho (Azathoth, Blind Idiot God in the Cthulhu Mythos, that only understands his dreams) Azrael (Angel of Death)

Tavros > Tauran (Meaning Bull) Thalia (Ancient Greek word meaning to flourish) Tallos (Talos is a brass made by Hephaestus for Minos) Tarsus (Multiple meanings, one is the distal part of the leg of an insect) Jinniu (The jīn niú zuò, means the golden bull constellation, it’s the chinese name for Taurus) Taurin (Tauri is what stars in the Taurus constellation are designated as)

Sollux > Callor (Sollux is a mix of Castor and Pollux’s names, the legend behind the astrological sign. This is an alternative name.) Solene (Meaning Sun)

Karkat > Cancri (Stars in the Cancer constellation are marked with this name) Krabbe (Small crab, shrimp or prawn) Krasis (the practice of mingling water with wine) Kalika (Known more as Kali in the west. A major Hindu goddess associated with death, violence, time. In later traditions, she’s associated with motherly love. Sounds more like Damara.) Kraken (Mythical sea creature) Karmen (Arabic name meaning generous/selfless)

Nepeta >    Leonis (Gamma Leonis is a star in the Leo constellation) Nallus (Nalus meaning to pounce) Nimrod (A mighty hunter before the Lord and a king. His character is similar to Gilgamesh.) Felino (Feline) Kanaya > Kareem (Meaning generous in Arabic) Khamba (Khambalia is a fixed star in the Virgo constellation)

Terezi > Tribus (Latin for tribe, the term is used to denote a division within the state in ancient Rome)Tribun (Tribunal, meaning a court of justice) Tassos (A Greek name meaning resurrection) Themis (The Greek goddess of justice, note that the name is feminine.) Equius > Equine (Related to horses) Eponna (Epona is the celtic goddess of horses) Consus (An Italian deity, on festival days celebrating him, horses are given time off of work, name is masculine) Pegsus (Pegasus is a winged horse, I just noticed now that I spelt Peg Sus and it fits) Vriska > Varren (Varen means superior, it also means God of the celestial sky) Vesper (Refers to Venus or the evening star) Virion (A virus particle outside of a host cell) Victor (Winner) Gamzee > Gaiety (Meaning lighthearted or merrymaking) Gauche (Lacking grace or acuteness) Algedi (Stars in the Capricorn constellation are called this, it means kid) Eridan > Ephira (A water-nyph and daughter of Titans Oceanus) Nereid (The Nereids are female spirits watching over bodies of seawater) Feferi > Fathom (A nautical unit of measurement to measure depth. The Old English meaning means outstretched arms.) Fifral (A Fife rail is a rail on a European-style ship.) Fisher (An occupational name for fishermen) Fizzle (Meaning a sputtering sound)

These genderbend names are so amazing and love the meaning detail ones for the trolls. My faves have to be John > Joni Rose > Ryan (like Ryan North, who made Ryanquest, who also worked with Hussie) Jade > Joel Roxy > Robb Jake > Jodi Aradia > Averan and Azrael (the latter would be funny and cool considering Undertale) Tavros > Thalia Sollux > Solene Karkat > Kalika Nepeta > Felino and Nallus Kanaya > Khamba Terezi > Tribus (Themis is another as I know a friend named a Karezi fankid this) Vriska > Varren or Vesper Equius > Eponna Gamzee > Algedi Eridan > Ephira and Nereid Feferi > Fifral

[gamkarenthusiast]

ermm question i was scrolling on your blog (as one does) (dont make it weird) and was wondering where you got the patterns/textures for your troll/beta kids or just like. in general is it Pinterest or..?

[btw your art is so interesting because it’s in a ‘simple’ art style but it looks so good!!! very tasty i ate all of it]

Yeah!! I got all my patterns off Pinterest! At first I tried utilizing the patterns on ibis paint but it was way too limited, so I opted to just search “____ patterns” on Pinterest. It’s been really helpful for me =o) hope this answers your question!

[catgirl-catboy]

10, 21 and 22 for the ask game? For any fandom you feel like

10.) worst part of fanon

Not a fan of found family dynamics. Probably never will be. And it is so rare that people both tag for it, and try not to push it on others.

Like, its quite rare for me to find characters where I think "wow! those two are the BEST couple!" it is more "I like their dynamic, and I know the ship fics are more likely to resemble the characters I love."

21.) part of canon you think is overhyped

The ending of every Danganronpa game.

Everyone paints V3's ending like it was uniquely unsatisfying, when this isn't a pattern for Danganronpa. Genuinely v3's ending was miles better than Trigger Happy Havoc's, because it gives narrative weight to the same writing flaws Kodaka always had.

22.) your favorite part of canon that everyone else ignores

Far less controversial, but Early Homestuck. What do you MEAN it only gets good when the trolls come in. I could watch the beta kids argue about paint drying, actually.

By the time the plot gets GOING, part of the soul is missing.

[nekropsii]

Every time I post about things that Cronus just actually did in the comic I lose like 1-5 followers. This is deeply funny to me. Guys I didn’t make that up just to hurt you or something, this isn’t spiteposting, that’s just canon information. You can go read that in the comic. It’s there. I hate to break this to you.

This is your reminder that I have CW tags for a reason and that reason is your mental safety.

And also, this is an Alpha Troll blog first, a Sovereignstuck blog second, an Intermission/Exile/Problem Sleuth appreciation blog third, a canon appreciation blog fourth… And everything else comes tenth.

I do not post about the Kids or Betas very often. Hate to say it. You have hundreds of other people for that, though.

[4sk4ltstuck]

WELCOME ^_^ !!

Hello !!! My name is Gamz and this is a shrimple ask blog for my homestuck au!! I plan on developing this au into a mspfa in the future, though this ask blog has no connection to the plot in said future mspfa. This is just for fun as I continue to work on it!!

I am both the only one developing this au and running this ask blog, so please be patient with me!! I can be a little busy sometimes, so if I do not respond in a timely manner then that is why.

YES!!

Magical anons [as long as they dont last an absurdly long time]

Questions as a certain character [like if you were to ask tavros a question as like gamzee or smth for example i think thats fun!!!]

References to actual homestuck [sober gamzee, vriskas constant tweaking, beta kids [which might be added in fhe future....], etc]

Questions to me!! As in the creator

NO.

ANYTHING SEXUAL. THEYRE 13-14.

Ship questions [only if its clear youre trying to force it, idm a general question]

Generally freaky shit

INFO ^_^ !!

Altstuck is short for Alternativestuck. And alternative is referring to different alternative clothing and music styles! Each character has a different style, and does slightly differ in personality from their canon counterparts!!

DESIGNS HERE vvv

All of the beta trolls go to the same school, and live a little closer than they actually do in hs. They are also in their first year of highschool!!

Kind of a modern au :o? the exact time is never stated but nepeta is based off of 2020 alt so take that as you will!!

The only character that I have completely left out of this au is Cronus, as I personally felt uncomfortable with adding him, and Eridan having only child syndrome just felt right.

Speaking of which, the alpha trolls are depicted as the beta trolls' older siblings

SPECIFIC CHARACTER INFO [UNDER THE CUT] vvv

[some do not have as much info as others for the time being as this au is still fairly new!!]

Aradia — Bigender , she / he , pansexual.

She's still dead [along w Terezi being blind, Tavros being in a wheelchair, blah blah blah]

People are aware of her being dead this time, though. Most of the trolls invested in ouija boards to communicate with her [she can still use computers, but she typically chooses not to]

Tavros — male , he / they , bisexual.

Still in the wheelchair

Actually a poser, says he listens to certain music while not ACTUALLY listening to it.

^ he actually listens to things like eminem and weezer though [which btw both are valid troll names?]

His style was mostly influenced by Rufioh, along with his friends shifting styles throughout the months. He finds them cool and wants to make himself look cool to boost his confidence, though its unclear if its working

Moving in with Equius [because of Rufioh and Horuss, they are canon in this, spesifically pre-problems]

Sollux — transmasc , he / they , bisexual.

Doesn't change a whole lot, though he's grown more reserved

Is very aware of how his friends are beginning to change [typically for the worst], and is attempting to steer clear of them

Going through a general down, as he feels intense guilt over the death of Aradia

Karkat — male , he / xe , bisexual.

Dresses "emo," but refuses to acknowledge that he is emo and will get offended if anyone refers to him as such

A bit more stand-offish than normal / more defensive

Closer to Eridan, helps with his relationship problems / writing his love songs

Nepeta — agender , it / she / xe , bisexual.

Uses more internet terminology than usual, and is generally a bit more chronically online

Encouraging Equius to be more bold with his methods of self expression

Kandi maker / good with hair dye

Kanaya — female , she / it , lesbian.

A bit more moody, though its typically just for show to keep up her gothic persona

Made most of the others new clothes, including her own

Terezi — agender , any , pansexual.

Her outfits are usually crazy as fuck, since she wears whatever "tastes the best"

Will write red ink all over its arms and then lick it off, which has left countless ink smears on its skin

Very strange and odd, more than usual. It'd rather be viewed as some sort of creature [like a cryptid] rather than a troll

Vriska — trans girl , she / her , lesbian.

Unlike Eridan, she has already begun socially transitioning, though she feels that she does not belong with the other girls most of the time because she is trans

Also more chronically online, and is active on tumblr [or grublr because i think thats better than bubblr or wtv], but spesifically on the side thats really fucking mean

BIG fan of riot grrrl

Equius — male , he / xe [? questioning] , bisexual

Incredibly awkward, even more than usual as he is adjusting to letting himself be more comfortable in "having fun" as Nepeta puts it

VERY self conscious, both because of his new attire [in fear of judgement] and because hes a zahhak which are all known to be FREAKS /lh

Gamzee — nonbinary , he / it , pansexual.

Actual juggalo hushh hushhhh this is an au

Still consumes sopor, though said sopor worked as a sort of gateway drug for Gamzee and lead him to discovering wtv the alternative equivalent for weed is [strange green foliage ???]

Despite living with Kurloz, Gamzee still rarely sees him and is typically on his own in the hive [since Kurloz is usually with meulin. Yes this is pre-incident]

Has slight beef with Tavros' music taste [w the whole eminem thing bcoz of the icp and eminem beef.......]

Eridan — "male" [questioning / closeted genderfluid] , any [only to karkat] he / him [everyone else] , bisexual.

Very unsure of himself, in the midst of an identity crisis

Somewhat aware of what she wants to be, though is reluctant to let the rest of her friends know about how she feels, both in fear of judgement and how her opinions and views could change the others just because she had them [shout out pesterquest]

Big into midwestern emo, writes her own shitty love songs and dreams of one day starting a band with the rest of her pals [but at the same time she would fucking hate to work with half of her friends in this way]

Feferi — female , she / her , pansexual.

Very excitable, though she dreads being queen more and more with each passing sweep. This isn't because she does not want to be queen, rather she is afraid that she will never be truly ready to handle that kind of responsibility

Tends to stress herself out alot, though she never brings it up to others in fear of bringing everyone's moods down with her venting

Feels like she is undeserving of all the privileges she was given in her life just for being a high blood

XTRA ^_^ !!

First im actually surprised if you read this far

And second, this is my first ask blog ever, so I am still figuring certain things out!! So for the time being, there will be no set-in-stone plot for this ask blog, but this will most likely change in the future as i fully figure things out ╰⁠(⁠＾⁠3⁠＾⁠)⁠╯

Feel free to ask questions, and you shall receive an answer from yours truly Xo3 !!! BAIII (⁠*⁠＾⁠3⁠＾⁠)⁠/⁠～⁠♡

[bonebabbles]

re: the tags on the post you just reblogged; would genuinely Love to hear your take on the themes of homestuck. because so many of its themes are at odds with each other and the reader that it truly does become an ouroboros by the end. and that’s fascinating and heartbreaking at the same time

I really can't phrase it better than "eats itself alive by the end," honestly. Once the Beta Kids scratch their session, you can feel how tired and frustrated the author is. It's like he starts hating his own work and how massively it blew up, when he never planned for it to be a project that lasted so long.

And thus it feels like he starts turning on his work's own themes.

Sburb (the game) was abusive and traumatic, but seemed to be trying to make the kids ""grow"" by some unknown philosophy. Figuring out what Sburb (or its creators) were trying to accomplish was a theme.

Only for the author to get frustrated at the idea of there BEING such a motive, seeming to suddenly pivot to Sburb just being a universe-generating mechanism

The theme about motives, being "pawns" in a greater game and uncovering the mystery, thinking critically about authority figures including the GAME ITSELF is unceremoniously discarded for a "Nothing matters actually" conclusion

Another theme was change and growing up, dealing with your mistakes as you make them. How even in a world with time travel, trying to use metaphysical shennanigans to avoid your fuckups just backfires. Eventually you have to face the music, and you'll be better off for it.

But then the author becomes brutishly cynical. The main casts' worst traits eat them alive on the trip to the new session, we learn the Beta trolls ruined their own playthrough and now painfully slog through their afterlives, the Alpha kids are aimless and trapped in a doomed session.

The theme about growth and facing your own mistakes becomes about stagnation and inevitability.

But honestly I think the most telling change in the author's mindset comes from looking at the Alpha Trolls vs the Beta Trolls.

Like, the way that the Alpha Trolls ALL got a full personality, several interactions with the main cast, and through fan input started evolving into characters that had little traits of the fandom at the time

Homestuck was always a story with a crass tone (and it's kind of incredible how quickly the lingo changed, making early HS look a lot edgier in hindsight than it was at the time) but it felt like there was a lot of love for how these characters had kinda been forged together.

Then you get to the Beta Trolls in a dream bubble, basically all tossed into a high-production walkaround minigame. Several of them just direct, joyless jabs at the audience, less of them relevant.

For me it's really the turning point on the themes, the later acts have always felt super dissonant from the early acts because of that

So in my mind I see it as two big "parts" and examine them together as what I feel was a weak synthesis.

[homestuck-fanauthor-coalition]

john (take me with you)

Chapter 3: i know the feeling (i really do)

Summary: John has a lot to think about.

==> John: Enjoy your stay. So far, it’s been great! Not very busy, though. There’s not a lot to do at Dave’s apartment, and neither of you want to subject yourself to the heat more than strictly necessary, so you’ve mostly just hung around. You’re surprised you haven’t seen Bro yet considering it’s been a few days, but Dave says he’s just reclusive like that. (You’re not sure you believe him.) You’ve played a lot of video games, watched a few movies, and spent ages just chatting. You don’t mind it, really! You’re not exactly the out-and-about type either. But you were starting to get a bit restless, being stuck indoors. The two of you actually left the house today, though! (Really, it was just you tagging along on errands with Dave.)

hey everyone! a new chapter of @eridan-amporaa 's fanfic just dropped! If you need a refresher on what it's about, check out the info below!

john (take me with you) (12667 words) by auspiciousAuthor Chapters: 3/6 Fandom: Homestuck Rating: Teen And Up Audiences Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply Relationships: John Egbert/Dave Strider Characters: John Egbert, Dave Strider, Dave's Bro | Beta Dirk Strider, Jade Harley

Additional Tags: Other Additional Tags to Be Added, Implied/Referenced Child Abuse, Background Dad Egbert, Background Nanna Egbert, Bacground Casey (Homestuck), Implied/Referenced Abuse, Good Parent Dad Egbert, Abusive Dave's Bro | Beta Dirk Strider, Pesterlog(s) (Homestuck), Meeting IRL for the first time, Eventual John Egbert/Dave Strider, Slow Burn, POV Alternating, POV Second Person, not formatted exactly like the comic but the command elements are in there for Funsies, Dave's Bro | Beta Dirk Strider's Bad Parenting, Rated T for swearing, Alternate Universe - No Sburb Session, the trolls either dont exists or exist as humans who never met the kids. take your pick, Fluff and Angst, Domestic Fluff, Angst

Summary: Title from the song of the same name. TG: what is it GT: well… GT: remember how my nanna gave me a bunch of money for my birthday this year to do something cool? - - TG: where are you going with this GT: well, i negotiated with my dad… GT: and he said i can visit you for a week this summer!! TG: what? - - - - - - Or, John Egbert is finally able to visit his best friend. Dave Strider jumps through hoops to make it happen. Neither of them understand the ramifications of what they're doing, not yet. Good thing Bro's out this week.

[welcometololaland]

911 lone star tag game

thank you @tellmegoodbye for creating this tag and for tagging me 💜 sorry it took me so long to get to it. thanks also to @lemonlyman-dotcom @rmd-writes @liminalmemories21 @freneticfloetry

@chicgeekgirl89 @thisbuildinghasfeelings for the tags and @howtosingit and @captain-gillian mentioning my name, unfortunately for you i have taken that as a tag.

When did you first start watching Lone Star? Who or what introduced you to the show?

someone (it may have been @three-drink-amy) was yelling about the proposal in a group chat somewhere and i was stuck at home, injured, completely unable to walk, miserable and hating life...so I opened a YouTube video to see what the fuss was about. and then i watched all 3 seasons over the next 2 days.

Which season is your favorite?

three

Who is your favorite character? (Bonus: If you answered TK or Carlos, who is your favorite besides them?)

if you'd asked me a year ago, i might have had a different answer, but now (after over a year of almost exclusively writing carlos), i think it has to be him. i just think that i understand carlos a lot better than i used to. aside from tarlos...it's a hard toss up between grace and paul.

Top five episodes. Go!

you don't write 9 fics about push unless you really love push, so it's 3 x 04 every day for me. i'm actually sick for the pilot (1 x 01). i love a good origin story. my three others would be 3 x 13, 3 x 07 and a fight to the death between 3 x 18 for the proposal and 4 x 16 for soulmates.

If you could pick any character to be given a "begins" episode, who would it be and what would that episode look like?

i think the logical choice is nancy, because we really don't know a lot about her. the more she is on the screen the more i am starting to really enjoy her as a character and i'd like to know more. i'm also obsessed with getting as much reyes family backstory as i can. i'm CONVINCED tia lucy has to turn up somewhere. i need to meet that queen.

What is a scenario or storyline that you would like to see in season 5?

total cop out answer for me - i have no hopes because every time i start clowning i get the fear i might curse it. i'm just here for the ride, kids.

What do you think is going on in this still?

see answer above - i think the obvious answer is something about gabriel's death/the murder investigation but i'm not counting my chickens before they hatch or whatever the saying is. (also, they could def be trolling us and it's some scene in which tk is hangry and carlos is calling up the pizza place around the corner to ask where their order is because it's been 50 minutes and how long does a pizza really take?)

We all know about the elusive 5x05 spicy scene that has been teased, so what is your prediction for how it could possibly top 1x02?

it's no secret that i prefer sexy scenes when there's more at stake - a frantic hook up is hot but i prefer anything with feelings upon feelings upon feelings. so i hope whatever it is, it's emotional.

Where was the Tarlos honeymoon in your mind?

i wrote a whole fic about it, so it's hard to go against my own narrative. but i assume somewhere in texas. it definitely wasn't the under the tuscan sun remake carlos had apparently been dreaming about (but i hope they get there one day).

Shoutout one of your favorite fan creations.

there's actually too many to mention, and somehow even though i've only been in this fandom for coming up two years, i feel like i'm a relic 😂 i have so many personal favourites that have come across my dash (a lot of them due to fic/fandom rec friday which i miss with all my heart). but i do want to say that if you create for this fandom in any capacity, whether that is art, fic, gifs, vids, metas etc., your creations are such a gift. every single one adds something that the fandom didn't have before and makes us as a collective all the richer 💜 also, i think it's important to acknowledge the importance of the members of the fandom who are readers or beta readers, or even casual observers. everyone i've come across on this site or in the ao3 comments or discord has such unique experiences and personalities and adds so much flavour to this fandom! so thank you for being here! and thanks to @tellmegoodbye again for giving me an excuse to just ramble on about that.

an open tag because i'm very late, but if you haven't participated, please consider this a tag for you 💜