#but the WORST and most COMPELLING part is that you can SO clearly see his point a to point b.
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moe-broey · 1 year ago
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It's just. The level of sheer premeditation. How he knew Exactly what to say to convince Anna to be on board
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How he said THIS.
And then.
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GOD.
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justalildumpling · 1 year ago
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chapter 26: my soulmate
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wc: 0.6k
If Jeno was going to be completely honest, he had no fucking clue what he was doing — partially due to acting upon his fight or flight response when you had mentioned the whole girlfriend ordeal. 
It wasn’t like he had never thought about making the two of you official (who was he kidding, he thought about it almost every day). But as a certified simp and part-time samoyed puppy, he wanted everything to be perfect, and if perfect meant standing on an empty beach digging up a pretty pathway and scattering rose petals for the past three hours, he would do it.
It had been around half an hour since he had texted you to come to this very specific beach — which he spent every minute anxiously fiddling with the bouquet of roses in one hand and fixing his wind-swept locks in the other. However, when he spotted your car pull up next to the boardwalk, he realised that he was not prepared for this moment, especially seeing the way your eyes sparkled as you met his gaze.
There was a little cute skip in your step as you hurriedly down the steps and to his position on the beach, your white cocktail dress dancing in the wind and the corners of your lips gradually rising as you got closer. 
Jeno could almost see the wedding arches and bells in the background, almost dropping the bouquet on the sandy surface as his hands instinctively reached out to hold you in some way.
“Jeno, what’s with all this?” You squealed, receiving the roses from his shaky grasp.
It was tranquil in that moment for the boy, with the girl of his dreams inhabiting the most beautiful smile and sharing the sweetest gaze with his little self, like all anxieties had washed away with his eyes crinkling into crescent moons and the words of “Will you accept to be my soulmate Y/N?” tumbling out of his lips without a second thought.
Your mouth parted for a split second, eyes hammering with a sense of shock and delight before a soft look adorned your face, “You finally accepted the soulmate request huh?” 
Jeno rolled his eyes, “Who says we can’t be both twin flames and soulmates?” 
You smiled, placing the bouquet on the sand before enclosing your arms around his neck, “Maybe we can test that theory,” you leaned closer into his ear, whispering the next few words, “I heard that if you kiss me and the world doesn’t blow up, we were made for each other.” 
Jeno could only chuckle, shaking his head, “You’re always full of surprises aren't you?” 
“Well, clearly you liked the suspense so now we’re here aren't we?” 
You scrunched your nose in glee, your giggles tickling his lips before he closed the gap. It almost felt like a scene out of a movie, with the waves crashing into the sand not too far into the distance and the rose petals once scattered neatly onto the path circling their figures from the wind and most importantly you, the way your laughs sounded so melodic in his ears, your perfect smile glistening in the golden sunlight and how he could finally call you his. 
Jeno didn’t vibe with chaos and unpredictability. But weirdly enough, the suspense and wrecking ball of events you had brought into his boring old life he found himself compelled to. And for the first time, he found himself agreeing with Chenle and his weird beliefs of the universe because a part of him began thinking that he had indeed found his soulmate, his other half, his twin flame.
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pairing: jeno x fem! reader
synopsis: chenle was convinced that his two introverted friends were destined for each other, so what does he do? bribe them to text each other of course ⎯ or alternatively, when jeno started to fall for an anonymous mutual friend of chenle's
genre: social media au, strangers to lovers, college au, FLUFF, crack
warnings: swearing
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ganondoodle · 8 months ago
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I probably still wouldn’t have been a big fan of the game, but I don’t think I would have been NEARLY as upset about TotK if BotW didn’t seem like it was so obviously setting up plot points for a sequel. Like, you’re very clearly MEANT to wonder what malice is, and how Ganon became the Calamity instead of just the Demon King. Fi is awake again, where are they going either that? What’s the deal with the Triforce-shaped symbol on Zelda’s hand? There were a LOT of other things like that, and many of them had to do with overarching lore for the series.
I get it if they want to reboot the series, but “BotW 2” was the single worst game you could have done that with. It could have been an amazing conclusion to the original continuity.
EXACTLY, you, you get it
botw felt like the introduction to a vast world with secrets and hints to things that were planned to become a bigger thing- a big giant game as a big giant set up, and then ... like totk likes to do alot, it lacks a pay off, and that is something it even does within itself, cosntantly, set up and no pay off, or set up and the most boring and uninspired pay off you can really not even call that, from the bigger things like the whole dragon thing being hammered into your head as irreversible and then it IS reversible.. out of nowhere without you having to do fuck all, the whole thing with the ancient hero beign a big mystery with lots of interesting ideas attached and then its some weird ass dog creature that doesnt resemble any other race with, of course, sonau armor, bc there nothing that isnt sonau in that game, even finding the old treasure maps you can find that then lead to amiibo stuff from botw id call that
botw wasnt that great with rewards either but exploring the world and wondering about those, surely intentionally, placed mysterious and intriguing designs and places did alot for making it so interesting to think about, totk fumbles it all and even the new stuff doesnt even come close to that environmental storytelling botw was so great at, sonau ruins? ha they look entirely different than in botw actually, bc those were built by hylians you see, the actual sonau stuff is in prime condition considering the time thats passed and its all the same blank blocky blocks that serve no purpose but to be a place for you to find a thing or exchange some currency- the most you can think about it is ... that the sonau hollowed out the entire underground of hyrule, every inch of the map, ... which is WEIRD and doesnt exactly make them look that good but ... thats all there is
at least with the shiekah it made somewaht more sense and it felt much less .. invasive? and you didnt have anyone from that time to talk to, other than dead monks whos only purpose is to give you their last piece of their own spirit, but in totk ... raurus ghost and mineru too are both just there to talk to but DONT tell you shit but vague hints that were already clear, the sky islands used to be on the ground? oh you dont say, you see them there in the stupid memories! and dont get to know how they got up there and theres nothing that can clue you in to that, its just sonau magic yet again i guess
dont even get me started on the whole malice/miasma thing, it made so much SENSE that there was a source of it, someone that has keep kept in a horrible place just between life and death for thousands of years trying to break free by their hate and anger manifesting to such a degree its literally spilling out and building creppy eyeballs, mouths and ribcage like structures like they are trying to rebuild themsleves outside of their awful prison no one knows about is so damn compelling, but no, actually, the guy trapped there was the msot evilest evar, was sealed bc him evil and no other motive, and the previously mentioned stuff is pretty much utterly unceonnected, and his magic beign miasma with red instead of pink and no creepy body parts was the true version of it, that pink one was its own thing heehooo SHUT UP argh
it doesnt help that really, i dont feel like the sonau were set up either, they were a tiny part in botw, really only serving to make the world seem more ancient and more full of history, having ruins from a past civilization there you know nothing about and cant find out more is so good, its compelling and sad and makes the world feel more real, just shoving them into everything, being the center of attention all of thes udden and not even the architecure fitting feels so ... forced, i really truly believe the og sonau werent meant to be more than that, but in their fear of the game being too similarly looking like botw they took the sonau to replace the shiekah with them- imo the shiekah were the ones set up to be deeper explored in botw, with their whole misstreatment by the royal family in the past, monk miz kyoshia reacting the same way a yiga commander would was deliberate and brings up even more interesting ideas, the comments about where the mysterious energy the ancient shiekah used to power everything being concentrated in certain regions?? thats a big ass set up, the fact that the center of what is signaling everything to reactivate being below hyrule castle? the fact the whole arena thing was BUILT INTO THE CASTLE or it on top of it is so??? cool??? and sso damn intriguing, we are scratching the surface of their history- but then no, actually, the sonau are the cool new shit those other ones just uh ... disappear, also the sonau did everythign the shiekah did but even better wayy before them haha
its like they didnt want to tackle the more complicated stuff with the shiekah, their relationship to the royal family and how the yiga ... have a point and a good reason- so they replaced them with entirely new purely goodest good guys that did the same stuff before them with none of the history attached :))
this is why im so insistent on it not really being a sequel, thers no follow up on anything that was set up, NOTHING, and no, a couple having a kid now or whatever isnt a follow up on an interesting set up, how hard is it to understand that-
.... listen to me rambling, you probably know all that already nhjdfkbnkd
(i know i always bring up the shiekah but ... they were so central in botw, while also not taking up every single corner- unlike some other ones >_____>, with so much interesting stuff to connect and think about, i cared about them so much i felt kicked down the stairs by their treatment in totk)
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quintessenceofdust88 · 1 month ago
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Congrats on reaching a follower milestone!
For a prompt, how about.... snow fight? It could be just bucktommy or all the 118 and Tommy, whichever you prefer!
Thanks!
darling this is SO late, I am sorry! I hope you enjoy it and don't mind that it's sliiiightly a sequel for my Nonna Rosa fix-it (but not particularly, it can be totally read as its own thing!)
Thank you so so much for the prompt, I had a lot of fun writing it! ♥
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It’s the day after Christmas, and Tommy can’t remember the last time he was this peaceful. As he stares at the trees in his Nonna’s backyard, all covered in fluffy snow, he realizes why Christmas in LA doesn’t feel quite perfect. It’s starting to get chilly, and he should probably go back inside, but the sight is too compelling to leave behind.
He hears the door open and close again behind him, and turns around to see Evan coming towards him with a thick checkered scarf in his hand. “Nonna’s orders, she said that if you plan to stay out here, she won’t let you freeze to death” Tommy chuckles and takes it gratefully, wrapping it around his neck, and then hugging Evan close. His boyfriend lets out a happy sigh. “Man, I hadn’t seen a snowy Christmas in a while. I missed it”
“Yeah, it’s quite something, isn’t it?” He mutters happily. “I love Christmas in LA, but this… It takes me right back to my childhood”
“Oh, I can totally imagine little Tommasino Domenico enjoying his Christmas right here in this backyard” He says cheekily, and Tommy rolls his eyes. 
“I should have never let you learn my middle name” He grumbles, and Evan chuckles. 
“Technically you didn’t, it was your grandma” He says with a shrug, and then smirks. “Eddie says it suits you”
“What?!” Tommy exclaims in mock outrage. “You told Eddie?!” 
“You should check the group chat more often, babe. Chim says he’ll exclusively call you Dommy from now on” Evan answers with a wink, and Tommy can’t believe what he’s hearing. He’s dating a complete brat, and the worst part is that he loves it. 
“Oh, you’re gonna pay for this, Buckley” He says, poking Evan’s rib, and the other man snickers, getting away from him and raising an eyebrow.
“Am I? Don’t make promises you can’t keep, Domenico”
Oh, he’s asking for it, isn’t he? Tommy smirks himself, approaching Evan slowly, his boyfriend clearly bracing himself for some playful wrestling (they do that sometimes, and the way it usually ends is one of the reasons why their Muay Thai lessons never really worked). What he doesn’t expect is for Tommy to shove a hastily formed snowball against his ear. Evan gasps, a surprised and outraged smile forming in his face as he shivers from the unexpected cold. 
“Ohhhh, Kinard, you started a war” He says, obviously trying to sound threatening, but Tommy only finds it adorable. It’s like a golden retriever trying to growl. 
“And what are you gonna do about it, Buckley?” Tommy teases, and is rewarded with a much better formed snowball sent right to the middle of his face; he’s gotta hand it to Evan, his aim is pretty good.
It doesn’t take long for it to descend into chaos, the two of them throwing snowballs at each other; Tommy’s are big but hastily shaped, while Evan takes his time to form small round balls that compensate in impact what they lack for size. At some point, they start chasing each other around the yard, just throwing fistfuls of snow at each other, laughing like two carefree children. 
And, well, who can blame Tommy for being distracted by the beautiful sight of a flushed cheek Evan chasing him? Unfortunately for him, that’s when his boyfriend takes his chance, tackling Tommy down and pinning him to the ground. Tommy falls down on the cold floor with a groan, already feeling his coat getting wet, but he’s smiling between heavy breaths. 
“You cheated,” He accuses, staring up into the most beautiful eyes he knows. He raises a hand to gently remove a snowflake from Evan’s eyebrows, right above his birth mark, and is rewarded with an impossibly besotted smile.
“So you admit defeat, Thomas?” He teases, breathing heavily himself, and Tommy smirks at him.
“Oh, yes, I fully admit defeat and am ready to be taken as your prisoner of war” Tommy says, and Evan laughs, leaning down to press a soft, lingering kiss to his lips. Tommy kisses him back, feeling warm despite having his back covered in snow. 
“Hm, I’ll show you prisoner of war, you dork” He says when they part, pressing another peck to the corner of his lips. “But perhaps not at your grandma’s house”
“You’re such a spoilsport” Tommy grumbles as Evan gets off him and offers a hand to help him up. He takes it, his knees cracking and protesting, his back giving a painful twinge as he stretches. “Damn, I’m getting too old for this” He groans.
“C’mon, old man, Nonna will probably yell at us if we don’t get inside for hot chocolate soon” Evan teases, and Tommy feels impossibly giddy that he knows his grandmother so well already. 
As he follows Evan inside his childhood home, Tommy spares a thought for the teenage boy he once were, who spent so many Christmas in this house, completely sure he would never find love. 
He’s never been happier to be proven wrong.
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brw · 1 month ago
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1, 9 and 10 for your ask game please!
1) the character everyone gets wrong
I'd go with Hank Pym and Janet Van Dyne, and I know that's cheating because that's two, but in my defence, the ways in which people get them wrong independently absolutely inform the ways they get the other wrong to.
Janet is a lot more proactive in her relationship with Hank than people give her credit for, and was a much bigger reason of why their relationship failed than people also give her credit for. There's a push to rewrite history and make her a very flat victim, and I can see why, but it's frustrating because I think it's a lot more interesting that Janet repeatedly and purposefully ignored multiple warning signs that Hank's health was imperiled simply because she held on to a belief that love could overcome anything, including a man's undiagnosed and unmedicated schizophrenia. It is JANET who makes the decision to marry. She is essentially the one who proposed, after Hank–hallucinating as Yellowjacket and genuinely thinks he is his own murderer–kidnaps her, then briefly becomes lucid and backs off.
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Genuinely, right. Genuinely. I don't think the Hank we see here, violently hallucinating, thinking he murdered himself and having a totally different persona and attitude, was in a position to give meaningful consent! I think it's very clear this is a man a danger to himself and to other people, who was not in the right frame of mind to agree to marriage, but people prefer to write Janet as a very basic victim, which I think is a massive disservice to the actually really nuanced way her relationship with Hank was sometimes written, where Hank was clearly unwell and Janet knew it but thought it was an issue that could be fixed with holiday's and sex and Avenging and not a more fundamental psychological one, and that's a far more interesting story to me.
9) worst part of canon
Lotta things I can put here. I think at the moment I am most frustrated by "Krakoa had no people on it before mutants fine, therefore it isn't an ethnostate and it's totally cool and awesome", because the lie of "there were no people here before us!" has been used time and time again throughout history to justify genocide, oppression, violence and colonialism, and I do not think it is the place of the white Americans in charge of writing Krakoa to essentially legitimise those lies because they didn't want to write Magneto or Nightcrawler or Wolverine and company to be out and out colonisers. If you are writing this kind of project, I think you should have the dignity to commit to it.
10) worst part of fanon
in no particular order
Dadneto, House of M dynasty as a whole
Charles is walking. More than anything else with Cherik this annoys me the most. Motherfucker I'll break his legs myself. Please at the very least let the disabled character be disabled.
The notion that Sue/Namor is real and happened
Logan Howlett girldad
Crystal doesn't exist in the Maximoff family conversation, related to that I once saw a haha fandom meme where Crystal was called an absent parent and that is so fundmantally untrue it felt like I was being trolled
Claremont's racism and zionism isn't real don't worry about it. Close your eyes and only mention it when it's something you can't pretend doesn't exist like Kitty Pryde saying the n word multiple times
Hank McCoy was Always Evil and Always Fated To Go Dark. That's just a regular man forced to hang out with his high school friends after three years of doing nothing but smoke weed with a gay 1950s theatre nerd. You would turn "evil" too.
That Reed Richards doesn't love his wife??? He invented comic guys being really intense about their wives. Leave him alone... that's the love of his life above all else??? Excuse me.
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makieos · 1 year ago
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on sand in that fight scene
and ramblings about why ray is such a great character
i genuinely feel like we have to be watching different shows and it’s starting to slightly bother me. these are just some thoughts on what ive seen said about sand (and ray) in light of the recent episode, specifically the fight scene.
let me start with the following: sand hasn’t ever thought his love was gonna heal ray. i honest to god don’t see how you could ever reach that conclusion. one of the main things about episode 10 is that he’s pushing him to get professional help - he’s under no impression that he could ‘fix’ ray by himself.
‘he made everything about himself during the fight scene’ doesn’t sit right with me at all. saying that he cares about ray is not making everything about himself. it’s just the truth. you’d EXPECT a person to say this when someone’s berating them for not caring, especially if it’s someone they love. saying ‘you think i have no dignity’ isn’t making everything about himself, it’s a reply to ray accusing him of only caring about money. you’d EXPECT a person to be hurt at that kind of comment - to voice it - especially a person like sand, who’s made his stance on money when it comes to his personal relationships clear.
i’ve said this before, but during the fight scene, the worst thing sand did is not explain clearly - saying he was hired but not explaining the context. surprisingly, just like you can see the reasoning behind ray’s actions, empathize with them, you actually CAN see the reasoning behind sand’s too! might be shocking but he’s actually not an asshole just for fun!
i understand being annoyed at sand for not talking. i even understand thinking that maybe there’s something he has to apologize for. but claiming that in his self-centeredness he - and the show - are always making out ray to be the asshole who needs to apologize is almost uncomfortable for me. not only because sand is just… not self absorbed, but also because - and i know some people might not want to hear this - ray HAS been an asshole, and he SHOULD apologize. not just for last episode.
ray’s reaction to finding out sand had ‘duped’ him is so honest that it’s almost devastating in its rawness, in its intensity. his feelings are valid and expected, but your feelings of pain being valid and expected doesn’t ABSOLVE you of being hurtful towards someone else. if you’re an asshole while at an emotional high, you’re not excused for it. you’re not blameless. the right thing to do is apologize.
saying ray’s feelings are being dismissed by the narrative is borderline outrageous to me. in the last scene, his feelings ARE acknowledged, they’re spelled out for the viewer - ‘i was so angry because I care for you’. in the last scene, the viewer is MADE to empathize with ray, to understand him in case they hadn’t just yet. they’re also made to understand that he HAS ultimately made mistakes and most importantly - that he’s sorry for them. that he wants to apologize.
this approach to ray of ‘he’s always made out to be the asshole’ ‘his mistakes are a result of someone else’s goading’ is so reductionist and it bothers me because I feel like it’s a genuine disservice to his character. ray is such compelling character BECAUSE he’s not perfect, not DESPITE it. because he messes up, and he feels things that are painful and reacts to them. because he’s human. his faults are a part of his journey - a part of his recovery. we don’t need to erase them to love him.
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ghostradiodylan · 10 months ago
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In general Ryan gets so mistreated and overhated by the fandom and it makes me sad because I really like Ryan even in my first playthrough :/ I get that the part where he was arguing with Laura about the existence of werewolves when he watched Nick transform and run out the window was kind of dumb but he’s all around a great character who’s brave and helpful and he helped save everyone’s lives in the best ending….
While I don’t agree with all of their actions I can’t bring myself to hate on any of the counselors. They’re all young adults who are stuck in a horrifying and traumatic situation, of course they’re going to be flawed and not perfect. It just baffles me how Travis, Constance, Jedidiah and Eliza do the most horrible things in the game yet people viciously hate on Ryan : (
Oh, the actual adults in the game are absolutely The Worst. (Even Chris, though I think he wants to help, is incredibly negligent at best).
I think there are a few things happening here that can turn people against Ryan (and I'm not saying anyone has to like him as a character, we all have characters we vibe with and ones we don't, but it's worth examining why we don't vibe with some characters especially when those characters are Black or other POC, LGBTQ, and ND-coded).
Ryan is a victim of some of the less compelling writing choices in the game IMO. They don't have anything to do with his character, really, he's generally well-written, but some of the things that were cut from the game, and the way the relationships unravel in the latter half of the game does Ryan kind of dirty.
First of all, his relationship with Chris Hackett isn't fleshed out enough for a lot of players to understand why he's willing to sacrifice so much on the hope that his mentor isn't actually a werewolf (or a deeply irresponsible asshole of a boss). If they'd left in the scene of Chris following up with Ryan about following his dreams and going to animation school and the initial confrontation with Chris that was patched out, where Ryan questions how he hid this from them all this time when he cared about them and Ryan trusted him (literally heartbreaking to watch tbh 🥺), it might have been a little easier for players to empathize with his loyalty to Chris. This kid has no known father, absentee mother, aging grandparents, a sister he clearly feels a lot of responsibility for, and his father figure who he goes to for advice left him in the worst possible situation. Of course he's going to be in denial about that and about him being a werewolf until he sees it for himself, and then Ryan has to kill him. It's so fucking tragic. And he doesn't even get a second to mourn or even react because the Silas plotline kicks in immediately (and they spent all the animated tears budget on Jacob).
Then there's Ryan's relationship with Dylan, which I could (and will) write about for days. Based on the game we got, plus the cut content, I don't think Ryan was ever supposed to have the option to get with Kaitlyn. I think that's a red herring that allows homophobic players to avoid a gay kiss (kind of a fucked up use of a BAMF character and Brenda Song's star power but, ok). I don't think he was ever supposed to get to romance Laura either. But I do think he was meant to be able to either end up with Dylan, or decisively not end up with him. If they'd kept the relationship system that we still have traces of but no actual structure for, then his ability to say 'maybe neither' to Laura wouldn't be something players held against him because it would have a basis in the choices we've made as Ryan (and Dylan) so far. As it stands, it feels like that is unsupported by what's happened in the game when we've had Dylan and Ryan flirting with each other and taking an obvious interest in each other since they were introduced.
Even if you choose the less favorable dialogue options, Dylan and Ryan are never really shown to be truly at odds (with the possible exception of the gun argument, but even that pretty much smooths over in the end). Even if you have them be hard-headed assholes to each other, they still have their heart-to-heart on the way to the radio hut (which I really think was supposed to have an alternative if they had low relationship stats).
Complicating matters is the fact that a lot of people really love Dylan. Obviously I'm one of them, I mean, look at my url and writing choices. I think Miles gives the best performance of the game, hands down (and I think all the actors did really well tbh). He's a great actor (his line reads are flawless and that sassy boy body language? I die.) but he also gets a lot to work with in terms of the script. Dylan is complex and compelling in a way that tends to be highly relatable for most people. He's probably neurodivergent (ADHD) but it's portrayed in a more palatable way for neurotypical people. Plus, as an audience, we are primed to empathize with the person who wants to be wanted, who is afraid of rejection, who has the cute crush that we want to see reciprocated and is trying not to get their heart stomped on. We've all been there! That's a centuries-old trope in drama and literature for a reason. And while Ryan does not owe Dylan reciprocation, we see some pretty clear signs of it at least being possible. So the game sort of dangles it in front of players like we can make that happen with our choices and then makes a half-baked attempt to snatch it away. That annoys people and, I think at least partially because Ryan's race and stoic demeanor (/autism) have people subconsciously primed to view him negatively, they take that out on him instead of the SMG writers who opted for that rather than fleshing out the relationships any further for the latter half of the game.
Like, yes, it's a horror game not a dating sim (Ryan and Dylan dating sim DLC when tho??), but you spend so much time building relationships that end up not mattering to the outcome of the game, I get why that's frustrating for people. It's frustrating for me! I just think being mad at Ryan over it is the wrong take. I still see people saying "Dylan deserves better than Ryan." Dylan and Ryan both deserve to exist in a finished fucking game where we have the option to get them together or not, but blaming whatever happens, or doesn't, on Ryan as a character is kinda trash.
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witlesswitnesstm · 9 months ago
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Thinking about how Trina starts Falsettos saying that Jason is Marvin’s son in Please come to our house, but then she says that Jason is her and Marvin’s son in Year of the child. I think it’s very sweet, but it’s also kind of tragic that she associates all of Jason’s bad traits as being inherited from Marvin.
If I really wanted to be an asshole, I could say that the only reason Trina said that Jason was her child as well is because she was in competition with Marvin during that part. (I don’t believe this but this is if you wanted to interpret it in the worst possible way.)
However, the song ends off with everyone saying that Jason is their child so, I mean, that’s sweet.
Can I go on a tangent? I don’t think Trina is perfect. I mean, none of the characters are. She’s obviously not as terrible as most of the other characters, and her arc is very sympathetic, but sometimes the way she treats/talks about Jason is a little concerning to me. (But that probably comes from my general distrust of all parents.) She very clearly projects onto Jason in Everyone tells Jason to see a psychiatrist, with the line “You and I must trust our emotions, make no commotions” and there’s also “Don’t be disgusting, be yourself!” in Please come to our house. She is so worried about appearances throughout the whole play, and it makes sense for the time, but I don’t think that really, absolves it? I’m sure it probably also comes from her fear of being alone, so she complies to everyone’s wants, but she kind of controls Jason in the process.
I might be looking way too far into this, but it also seems like at least part of the reason she wanted Jason to see a psychiatrist is so that she could talk to Mendel more. She invites Mendel over excessively (according to Marvin), she makes intricate dishes for Mendel, she’s nervous about Jason acting out around Mendel, and so on. It feels a little shitty cause Jason was clearly looking for answers about himself and Trina lets her feelings towards Mendel outweigh trying to consider others that could actually help Jason in the way he needs. And I feel kind of bad for Jason cause he doesn’t have friends, so the only people he can really rely on to get help are his parents.
I’m not denying that Marvin also wanted Jason to see Mendel, but I give him more of the benefit of the doubt cause he had been seeing Mendel for years already, and just assumed that he was a good psychiatrist. (He’s not.)
There’s also the line “Jason calms me” in A day in Falsettoland which is very vague, and most likely just describes how seeing Jason makes her feel calm, but the worst possible interpretation of this line is that she might be spilling all her problems to Jason, leading to him becoming a kind of therapist for her (ironically.)
But again, that’s just the worst possible interpretation, I really have no clue how morally gray these characters are intended to be, so literally any other interpretations are valid.
And this is not to say that I hate Trina, far from it actually. I absolutely adore Trina’s arc and earlier today I started crying over Holding to the ground cause god does she go *through* it in this trilogy. She has so much depth and the misogyny she deals with is written and addressed in such a compelling way. I have a so much empathy for her regarding her reoccurring themes of suicide/self harm considering it’s not something I’m unfamiliar with, and like, god man I love Trina
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Ok, saw a post by @hernameslucy, and it activated alll the Kipps brainworms. Turns out that I have a loooot of thoughts about the idea that Kipps had a relationship with the Lockwoods/Jessica and at least in part blamed Lockwood for Jessica's death. I find it compelling, but also when you draw out all of the implications it is so incredibly, utterly devastating. Anyway here's my very long analysis of how the Lockwood and Kipps rivalry might have come about (in addition to the cannon poke to the bum with a fencing foil...). After Jessica's death, I could see Kipps in the moment as a grieving teenager blaming Lockwood, and that would be painful for Lockwood on multiple levels. He’s losing out on whatever support Kipps might have offered him otherwise, and it reinforces Lockwood’s own shame around his culpability in Jessica's death. That brings this really complicated edge to Lockwood’s feelings towards Kipps because you have both a very real and very deep grievance (he would be very rightfully angry at Kipps for blaming him for something that really wasn't in his control) and also a reminder of his biggest regret (not being present when Jessica broke the vase).
This second point is where you have Lockwood projecting some of his own emotions onto Kipps. At the beginning of the series Lockwood does blame himself, and he's also very much running away from that feeling. When he finally shows Jessica's room to Lucy and George he lies about where exactly he was at the time because he's not ready to confront that shame, and there's likely a small part of him that is convinced that they will blame him as well (since there's a part of him that believes they rightfully should). Before Lockwood tells Lucy his full account of the day and in part acknowledges his own feelings of culpability, he's still very much trying to bury and push away those emotions. If Kipps really did blame him, that would make Kipps a very difficult person to be around because his very presence reminds Lockwood of the shame he's been avoiding.
On top of that, I think at that point in Lockwood's emotional arc there's likely a part of him that sees Kipps as the person that has the most clear-eyed view of him. The fact that Lockwood blames himself for Jessica's death and has acknowledged that fact to no-one would likely leave him with this feeling that he's actually lying to the important people in his life (among other things, this is supported in the show by Lockwood's line to Lucy that "there are things that I haven't told you about myself that are probably for your own good").
With Kipps being the only person who knows what Lockwood believes to be a terrible truth about himself, he could very easily become a place for Lockwood to externalize his own shame. Any attempts to prove Kipps wrong could be read as just as much an attempt to prove wrong his own worst judgments of himself. As for Kipps, I think an initial response of anger towards Lockwood is difficult to take but understandable. What's harder for me to reconcile is that over the years Kipps would continue to hold onto the belief that Lockwood really was at fault for Jessica's death. He's enough older that I think after the initial intensity of the grief passed, he would likely feel a bit ashamed for having blamed a child for something so clearly out of their control. As for why he would continue to antagonize Lockwood years later, I can think of a few possibilities.
The saddest of them is that he simply allowed his shame to curdle. Instead of acknowledging his fault, he doubled down on externalizing his emotions onto Lockwood. Clearly Lockwood had to be at fault because otherwise Kipps would need to fully acknowledge what he had done in placing the weight of blame onto a grieving child. I don't like this explanation as much because 1. I think Kipps is more compassionate than that even from the beginning (we stan one (1) Quill Kipps in this house) and 2. I don't think that this is a kind of hurt that could just be gradually smoothed over without some kind of reckoning between the two of them.
I think what's more likely is that sometime before the events of the series, Kipps did try to repair his wrong and Lockwood lashed out at him. Again, I think that Kipps would still be in the wrong in this situation both as the older of the two and as the party that added insult to injury. However, Kipps is also still a grieving teenager too, and in this instance he's coming to Lockwood with some vulnerability, admitting wrong and also likely seeking out company and commiseration in his grief. He's doing a difficult thing while also nursing his own grief, and he's met with coldness and anger. That would be hard to take.
This kind of hurt I could see slowly fading over time as they develop a relationship, since it places them on something closer to level footing. I still think they would have to acknowledge it at some point, but it also seems possible that that's just something Lucy was never privy to.
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is there a way to write hate sink characters well? Cause the only hatesinks I can think of that work for me are shou tucker and Medusa, most others feel like they're there to make the heroes or love interest in a love triangle look better or to be preachy. Idk I like a lot characters that I know im supposed to hate on virtue of I can feel a writer trying too hard to make them unlikable to the point it feels ridiculous, like a caricature or in the worst case scenario the character wasn't originally a hatesink and went through a character assassination. So how do you do a hatesink right?
So I actually looked up the trope page for this one to make sure when I said this it felt right: I think you have it backwards, at least for the best hate sinks. For me, a hate sink is never something a writer should explicitly go out of their way to write. It's like forcing someone to be comic relief: If you have a character who is only one note, they will end up one note. That doesn't mean the term is invalid though or I can't talk about what makes a hate sink become a hate sink but I wanted to get that out of the way first.
The core to making a character your audience will despise even more than your main villain is to make a genuinely good and compelling character for a detestable role in your narrative. Medusa isn't just a faceless big bad. She is an abusive mother who only uses the facade of love to make sure Crona stays trapped with her. Shou Tucker is by all means a very normal dude except for what lengths he will go to to keep his comfort and status. Funny enough: Neither is as one note or pure evil as The Joker or Darkseid but both are hated more because, well, as the trope page says, their evil is less abstract. This makes them well written villains who grip people's imaginations more than most.
This also causes most Hate Sinks to be smaller in scope. Why is Shinji's dad the worst father in anime when there are people like the evil emperor in Mar who is, you know, the main villain and the MC's father? It's because of his small time villainy. The cruelty towards his own son. We as an audience can relate to that better because it's an affront to the morality we have to deal with day to day. This is what I mean by them being less abstract. As a note because of the fandoms I've been a part of: Bullies fall into this really easily as well. Even if they actually aren't even that cruel as far as bullies go, so many people have dealt with that ONE. ASSHOLE. and so seeing them portrayed can immediately make a fandom turn hard on them, even if they're very clearly not written as someone that is meant to be universally despised.
This also brings up a final note: How close are their actions to the main cast? Maka and Crona's plotline constantly intersects, with Medusa's abuse stopping resolution there as Crona becomes increasingly sympathetic. That pain to Maka in turn sharpens our blade against Medusa. Shou Tucker is in the grand scheme of things not in a lot of Fullmetal Alchemist but it is one of the most personal atrocities that Ed and Al face, along with it killing off a beloved character. Worse yet for Shou is that unlike Envy, who also kills a beloved character, he is never nuked a couple dozen times to give the audience the cathartic beatdown we want for something as awful as what they did. Not giving that payoff is another way to cause a character to fester in people's minds as someone to despise because it can feel like they got away with it, even if they technically didn't.
A lot of this still just comes from what I said at the beginning though: These are genuinely well written characters who are given a reprehensible role. The hate sink page lists Umbridge from Harry Potter but how many people actually have a lasting impact from her? Because she isn't a character. She's just a bitch. Woopdie doo, that's SO NEW. rolls eyes She is genuinely written just to be despised and for that she can make a fun villain but she isn't the sort that sticks with people so that every time she gets mentioned, everyone sneers and goes "THAT BITCH!" Not like they do at quite literally any mention of Shou Tucker.
And Shou is only that effective because the question around him was how to tell the concept of a pathetic man desperate for fame in this setting in a compelling way, not for how to make one of the most detestable human beings in all of anime. See you next tale.
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traumatizedbymay2016 · 9 months ago
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Ok this might be a little bit tinfoil hat, but I feel like a large part of the reason that Tony Stark ended up being the de facto soul of the MCU was that he was in a different genre to everyone else. It feels so obvious to me.
Every other Avenger stars in some variation on character versus character conflict the majority of the time, and the exceptions I can think of are still (generally) external (character versus society and character versus fate seem to be common secondary conflicts). Tony is the only character who stars predominantly in character versus self conflicts.
For starters, the Iron Man trilogy is way better when you recognize this distinction. Whiplash and Killian are lame villains, yes, but it's because they aren't the antagonist at all. At best they're secondary conflicts, but at worst they're straight up just the inciting incident. The real antagonist of the story is the flaw that Tony is grappling with --- in Iron Man, it's his willful ignorance and isolation from the world; in Iron Man 2, it's his fear of needing help or being a burden (and secondarily his fear of his impending death); and in Iron Man 3 it's his crippling anxiety that nothing he ever does will be enough to protect the ones he loves. It's relatively rare that we see any other character perform this kind of introspection at all, let alone see an entire story built around it (Thor: Ragnarok is the only one that readily comes to mind).
Even weirder to me is that this somehow persists into crossover films. Age of Ultron features Tony grappling with the way the remnants of his Iron Man 3 anxieties are interfacing with his mask of hyper competence; Civil War centers around Tony deconstructing that same mask and attempting to hand the reins over to someone else; the examples are abundant (even if they're handled worse here than in the standalone films).
And I think that's why so much of the Marvel discourse that the interwebs seem hell bent on showing me ends up presenting every Marvel character as "uwu soft precious pure bean" heroes who are nuance-free portrayals of goodness and light in spite of their own laundry lists of mistakes that they move past but never really grow from, only to reach Tony Stark and present even the most understandable of mistakes as though they were pre-meditated and cold blooded decisions for which he is responsible and can never be absolved. If the narrative never forces anyone else to properly reconcile their actions, then those actions were clearly justified; when it does so to Tony, that sends the message that his actions are clearly worse or of greater significance than the others' are.
But that difference is about presentation. It's about the story being told and the conflict being centered, not the culpability or severity of the actions at play. I'm not sure any Avenger has ever screwed up as royally as the time that Thor's coronation got crashed and he decided to get his friends together to attempt frost giant genocide, but the narrative chooses not to focus on that in favor of other elements of Thor's progression. Weighing it as lesser is purely based on bias.
And here's the thing! I understand that 1) protagonists are not necessarily good people and 2) good people can and do make mistakes. I actually prefer characters who can do something terrible --- whether as a result of ignorance, trauma, or panic --- and then, in time, learn from those mistakes and become better people. I would argue that makes a character more compelling, not less so. In fact, the very way that the narrative never even acknowledges the potential for Steve Rogers' actions to have a negative consequence when even bare minimum common sense would dictate that there must be at least a little downside is part of why I don't enjoy the character.
But so much fan meta fails to engage with this in any meaningful way, and so you end up with situations where people are ranting about Tony blasting Sam after Rhodey got knocked out of the sky while entirely ignoring the obvious and understandable distress that would cloud anyone's judgement in that situation in favor of treating it like an intentional act of malice on Tony's part; in spite of the fact that there are dozens of instances in the MCU of heroes attacking each other with greater force in lower stakes situations --- Thor choking Tony in Age of Ultron comes to mind.
Age of Ultron is actually the perfect case study in this phenomenon, as it stands. Tony's arc in the movie is an explicit continuation of his arc in Iron Man 3: He's terrified by the vision of his teammates dead and the world at risk, and is desperately trying to solve that problem on his own in a panic. This leads to the objective mistake of Ultron's birth and near rise to power, which the fandom all-too-happily places the blame for squarely on Tony's shoulders.
Except Tony is just one piece of the puzzle. At a minimum, Bruce Banner was equally involved in the creation of Ultron; a task perfectly in line with his established character trait of pursuing scientific advancement at any cost. Cinematic parallels between the birth of Ultron and the birth of the Hulk are unsubtle, to say the least.
Thor could (and should) have provided some instruction to the two pertaining to the literal magic gemstone they were studying, but went off to go celebrate another victory. Wanda used her mind control powers to influence the situation in the direction of Ultron. Hell, I find it hard to take Steve's "sometimes my team mates don't tell me things" line seriously when the lab is a room made entirely of windows inside his house.
The cherry on top, obviously, being that even if we ignore all available subtext and let Iron Man be the sole creator of Ultron, the Avengers were still effectively functioning as a team and were properly equipped to prevent Ultron from enacting any real damage to the world when they intervened in the vibranium deal with Klaue --- but a certain pair of Avengers were literally fighting on Ultron's team at that point, enabling him to retrieve the needed vibranium and capture Helen Cho.
They're not culpable for that, though, right? How was it said... "She's just a kid"?
With the final irony being that the selfsame Avenger in question would go on to marry the Vision. A character who is literally just "What Tony Stark intended Ultron to be." But when it comes to Vision coming out worthy to wield Mjolnir, that's not Tony's fault, is it? It was a team effort, or a happy accident, or the Mind stone intervening. Never mind that it's personifying J.A.R.V.I.S., Tony's creation. Tony's not the one who does good things, he's the one who makes mistakes.
Meanwhile from the perspective of someone who loves the man versus self narrative, Age of Ultron is about Tony admitting his mistakes and quite literally learning from them and doing better next time. He spends the film taking responsibility for the places he messed up and working to understand how he can do better, and the next time he tries, he does do better. The narrative functions as intended.
But because there isn't a single other character in the room willing to admit wrongdoing --- or, perhaps more accurately, there isn't a single other character in the room that the narrative is willing to force to admit such a thing --- the implication to someone who isn't acclimated to the cycle of Fail, Learn, Succeed that characterizes Tony is just that Tony is The One Who Made Ultron. I mean, Bruce Banner gets more remorseful about being mind controlled to unleash the Hulk than he does about having been an active participant in the creation of a malevolent AI.
I just think it's interesting because so much of the fandom buys into the idea that the characters who never admit that they were wrong actually never were wrong, and that therefore Tony Stark is the worst; but at the same time, the whole heart is gone from the MCU as a franchise. There are still individual fun properties, especially when your particular favorite character is on screen, but you can feel in the places where the fandom is even still a fandom and not a toxic pile of self-consuming sludge that there's something missing.
As frustrated as I am that the fandom is like this, though, I'm more sad that other characters never got to have this kind of introspection. There's just so much missed potential for growth in so many of these characters.
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clowngirlpony · 2 months ago
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Stephen King Books I've Read With My Thoughts in the Approximate Order I've Read/Listened to Them
Revival
This is the first Stephen King book I read. It didn't amaze me at the time but being more familiar with King's writing style and looking back on it now I think of it more fondly.
I think the dynamic between the 2 main characters, Jamie Morton, a musician heroin addict, and Reverend Charles Jacob, Jamie's childhood priest turned semi-mad scientist/showman. They disconnect for a while but Jamie and Charles find each other later, both hollowed out. Charles uses his strange science to cure Jamie's addiction, and in return Jamie feels he owes it to the Reverend to help him with his experiments.
The end goal of the Reverend is to find proof of the soul, the afterlife, and that his wife and child are somewhere happy after death. He ends up proving that this is definitely NOT the case lol. Like many Stephen King books, I didn't like the ending until later when I thought on it more.
The Dark Tower: The Gunslinger
The first book of The Dark Tower series and the beginning of my multiyear long spanning hyper fixation on this author. I find Roland to be endlessly compelling as a protagonist, truly a lesser evil, a mindless weapon, a hopeless romantic, and endlessly cold.
In this first book you only get to see the worst parts of his being. He kills anything that can stop him from getting to the tower, no matter who, no matter if there are more peaceful solutions, because he is a weapon with a quest and nothing more right now. In this book he finds a boy who is a fellow victim of Walter, the man he is currently hunting to kill. He slowly grows close to this boy only to realize that the boy was a trap set out by Walter to force Roland into a situation where he either sacrifices his quest for the tower to save the boy, or sacrifice the boy for his quest. He continues his quest, sacrificing the boy, and shattering his soul.
The world is clearly a post-apocalyptic version of our own, 10s of thousands of years in the future. The universe is dying, many worlds are dead already.
The Dark Tower: The Drawing of Three
Roland immediately loses most of the fingers on his right hand to giant lobsters in this book and immediately comforts himself with the thought that he doesn't jerk off with that hand. This book is amazing and truly sets the groundwork for the rest of this book series as a multi-universal epic that spans universes and eras.
The secondary main characters are introduced in this book, Eddie Dean and Susannah. Eddie is one of the best characters King has ever written and is a constant source of light in the series. Susannah is also a really good character but her story starts with a lot of stuff about racism and honestly Stephen King does not have the delicacy to properly handle these subjects so it can be a hard read. Not to mention she has DID which as we all know, is very awkwardly misrepresented in many medias, with this not being an exception. What he does different is that in her arc she is not "cured", she is merely made aware of her state of being and makes peace with her alters. She is also wheelchair bound but still treated as just as strong and capable as anyone else, help is offered to her almost always on a respectful level.
This book's story consists of Roland walking down a beach and dying from infection. He occasionally finds a door to our world at different times of the 20th century. He kidnaps Susannah and Eddie from these worlds against their will by possessing them with these doors.
The evolution of the relationship between the Gunslinger and these 2 is amazing. He sees them as merely pawns for his quest at first, until he slowly respects them more and more, and even learns to love them later on. They see him of course, as their inter-dimensional kidnapper and both try to kill him and each other over the course of the book.
The Dark Tower: Into the Wastelands
The third book in this series. This is where the world building starts to really pop off. You learn about the intersection of magic and technology by a group known as "The Old Ones", which is most likely the human civilization who ended the world and started the slow death of the universes. At this point Stephen starts to lean a lot more into his writings being interconnected, and that this story is the intersection of all his world's and stories.
In this book the boy Roland regrets sacrificing, Jake, is brought back by through ✨shenanigans✨and joins the group, in this same book they also adopt a badger dog like creature called a billybumbler. With these 2 this completes their group which they refer to as a "ka-tet", which is basically a group of people brought together by "ka" which is basically what they call fate but it has further nuance than that.
Main setting of this book is a ruined city called "Lud" which is supposed to be a parallel of New York. In this city is a civil war between 2 groups of dying people who forgot why they're fighting and the Ka-tet gets caught up a lot in this. The relationships of the group deepen a lot in this book and you get to see Roland slowly become a person again to his extreme dismay. He starts to worry that next time he will sacrifice his quest for the tower.
There is a sentient evil super computer that inhabits a train in this book and I want to have sex with it so bad it's insane.
The Dark Tower: Wizard and Glass
"Ka is a wheel, it always turns back to the same place" is a common held belief by people in Roland's world but especially by Roland, because his life is endless tragedy and he's become aware of how Ka repeats itself. He starts to notice similarities between his new and old ka-tet and it starts to really bother him as he can't help but think about things he never wished to think about again.
Most of this book ends up being Roland telling the others an important story from his past, one about his old ka-tet and the events that ended them. The amount of depth this gives to Roland completely changes his character as you start to understand what truly motivates him and why. There's too much to go over in this post but it's amazing.
I forgot to mention this but Susannah fucked a demon last book and is now demon pregnant so a side story about that is starting around this book.
The Dark Tower: The Wolves of Calla
The demon pregnancy sub-story starts to really ramp up. It's slowly revealed that there is a new person in Susannah's mind. At first it's assumed to be another alter but it's eventually revealed it is a demon possessing her body to carry out her pregnancy. This sub-story is still secondary to the current main story in this book.
In this book they find a rice farming town called "Calla". This is one of the first settlements they've found that seems truly intact and still thriving.... somewhat. This town is invaded by a group they call "wolves" every 20 something years to kidnap the oldest children of each family. They are coming again soon so the town asks for the help of Roland's ka-tet. They accept because they think doing so will bring them closer to the tower.
This book is really nice because it shows life in a way we can recognize for the first time in Roland's world that we see. This village is so full of life and culture and community, I just love the side characters we get in this book.
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wakeywakeyjakey · 3 months ago
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Hey, another person answering the TF and MK question cause why not?
MK I know only from the TV show and I like them and their story cause it just feels so compelling, it was incredibly entertaining and the characters just have a lot to give, plus (and this was before I really knew anything about DID) I thought that it was very interesting that they were doing the whole “second personality” thing without making one good and one evil, they just were and that felt like interesting storytelling.
As for Harvey I feel like it’s the tragedy and drama of his story, it’s also compelling and entertaining, it’s got a lot to give. The thing with comics is that pretty much every writer is writing a different version of the character, I haven’t really seen one in which he is portrayed as having DID and while part of what I like about him is the different ways in which you can interpret him, I adore the fandom version in which he does have DID because I feel like it opens the door to such interesting takes on the character, specially when TF isn’t just evil Harvey, and makes the whole Harvey wasn’t a perfect man thing have a lot more weight, plus I also think it would be cool to see the Judge used in other stories.
That’s what I’ve got to say.
Hope you have a good day/night :D
Your point about the canon-ness of TF's DID is something I've definitely thought about! I think I see him canonically diagnosed with schizophrenia more often than with DID. Which is SO WEIRD to me (but also not because it's a very frequent misdiagnosis lol) because even though it's not canonically recognized, CLEARLY that's what most of the writers are going for (using "us/we" pronouns, using two different voices even when written in comics, etc.) but the point about fandoms is so right! One of my favorite parts about the characters I love most is what the fandom is able to do with them and it's definitely cool to see the validity and nuance we (both system and non-system fans) can give them! We get to add the canon backstory and the IRL MH struggles to create an angsty character that knows no bounds lol.
It's definitely a big difference from MK because MK not only canonically has DID but also talks about it OFTEN. It's cool that, even though there's a lot in the MK story that can still be interpreted otherwise, that's something that can't be misconstrued! And bless them for doing all that because WOW a DID (anti)hero is SO COOOOL, a whole new layer of identity porn haha
Love to see non-systems who can see beyond the ~DID means x alter is good and y alter is bad~ because truly that's the worst part about this (ie hero/villain) representation!
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loving-n0t-heyting · 2 years ago
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I find your take really interesting because it's actually compelling and nuanced but I do still think I have a somewhat rosier view of Skyler as a person than you do (though still largely negative); in particular, I find it much easier to side with her early in the show, where, while what you say about her is true in a clear way, she still tends to have some decent argument for her position. The show is having some fun at her expense, but it's still putting her in situations where we can readily understand why she's doing what she's doing and she might even broadly be right. Of course Walt's medical decisions are his own (oh God I typed "her own" here originally and only caught it much later in editing; was this a terribly revealing Freudian slip? yikes), but at that point with what she knows Skyler would have to be a terrible spouse to not try to argue him into placing a higher value on his life. And while Skyler does have a comically naive bourgeoisie worldview on law and order, and willful naivete is not morally neutral, it's Marie who's stonewalling in the shoplifting conflict, not Skyler. I'd consider Skyler at the start of the show to be roughly on moral par with Jesse at worst (and even that feels like it's going awfully far), and that Jesse ultimately finds his way out of Walt's psychological web before she does feels more like happenstance than some deep indictment of her relative to him.
I do think it’s hard comparing Skyler to Jesse early on bc they are clearly at that point being treated by the show with different levels of seriousness. Jesse was slated for an early demise, remember, and was intended more as a stepping stone for Walt’s personal journey, whereas they would have had to be insane to do the same after one season with Skyler. (Well, frankly, they would have to have been insane to go through with it for Jesse too. But not as insane.)
And it shows! The early depth and nuance you see in Jesse is pretty much pure Aaron paul; he’s written fairly one-dimensionally as white trash sidekick comic relief, whereas Skyler is already being deliberately built up for big things. So it’s weird to compare the two imo, the way it would be weird to compare her and walt Jr. There’s just more to her early on
And idk, maybe some of the animosity i have for her (which i was exaggerating somewhat, for the sake of the take/bit, though not in essentials) is personal. Family technically-not-coercing you into medical treatment (that could Save Your Life!!) hits a little too close to home, and I uhhhh. Idk if you’ve been reading my blog long enough to hear about my mommy/ex-gf issues lol. (Ofc, plausibly deniable therapeutic venting is most of what most ppl have to say about brba at any length, so i don’t think this is a specially egregious interpretive failing on my part.) But I do think, simply on the merits, the “poor battered housewife” reaction to the misogynistic frenzy she initially provoked among certain segments of the fandom is overgenerous. It’s at least better than the negative reaction against that same crowd regarding walt, though, which consistently drives ppl to commit obvious and basically indefensible errors about central plot points, at which point I think you can barely be described as engaging with the show itself at all
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abelllia · 1 year ago
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3, 10, 12 !!
3. screenshot or description of the worst take you've seen on tumblr
Oh hmmm genuinely hard because I like to mind wipe whenever I see a bad take. The *one* that I remember was from twt too. I'll describe it anyway even if I have talked about it here before. It was something implying that Jon wouldn't take another character's trauma seriously. Since it's the violence ask I'll mention that the other character was Martin. The first time I saw it I genuinely blank-screened in a negative way because it did NOT compute. It was set in S1 but even then I can't imagine Jon not having at *least* an "oh, shit" moment. Especially since Martin's trauma in the thing was childhood trauma. Got me going 😒
10. worst part of fanon
Originally, I had three whole paragraphs about aspects that I dislike but I realized they all just point to one thing— flattening.
Flattening of characters, of morality, of the concept of the entities, yadda yadda. This has happened in every fandom since time immemorial for either comedic purposes or sorting purposes. We love putting things in neat little boxes because it just makes things easier to digest and communicate. Martin is the sunshine one, Jon is the tsundere, Tim is the flirt, Sasha is the Girl™️, Elias is the Ad Campaign Villain with a twirly moustache. It's easy to understand but just less...interesting? I don't want to rag on stuff made for fun/memes, I like funny haha fandom memes. It just feels like a lot of fights about the characters boil down to ignoring the multitudes they contain. The contradictory aspects which make them who they are.
Everyone has probably already said their piece about character flattening so I'll go about the morality thing and how people really like to fight about who's in the right and who's in the wrong. Guys, this is tma, they've all done bullshit. No one is ever going to be completely in the right in this show they've all been shitty people to each other at one point, that's what's *fun* about it. My favourite part is that how, even though I may disagree with a character's actions, I can understand *why* they do it. It makes them feel more like people to me. For an easy example I'll just choose the Gertrude-Michael thing. Yeah, Gertrude sacrificing a human being to an entity who tore his who from his what is pretty shitty. One strike in the wrong. However, from how Gertrude and literally everyone else understood the world at that point, her actions can be considered heroic because in their mind, she just stopped an apocalypse! Saved billions of people from becoming Fear Food. One strike in the right. However, as we soon will know it was basically useless. Gertrude will find out that the Ritual would have never worked anyway so all the sacrifices she did (Michael, Jan, who knows who else) were in vain! Yeowch! Two strikes in the wrong. Ain't it fun? Yet I still see Gertrude interpretations that act like she just did it for fun or something, not that she thought the whole world would end if she didn't sacrifice this one dude to the Distortion.
Honestly I'm not satisfied with this ramble and I think there are plenty of flaws in it but I don't want to write anymore and I don't want to think. Yeah, flattening stuff is fun sometimes but not when it seeps into serious-ish discussions.
12. the unpopular character that you actually like and why more people should like them
Look hear me out– Basira and Peter Lukas.
Basira to me is compelling to me for so many reasons. She's the most mentally....secure? character in the show, like she logic'd her way out of the *Unknowing*, and it's implied that she's had to be like that from a young age. Based on her S3 pre-Unknowing statement about how that's how her father raised her. But, she's also so controlled by her emotions. Most clearly and notoriously with Daisy, but another example is when her fondness for Jon in S2 overrode her goal to catch him for potential murder. Her emotions matter to her but also calm logic. Which can lead to a lot of interesting and *frustrating* contradictory moments. Again, notoriously with Daisy and how she treated her vs Jon in S4. She's so incredibly flawed and I love it. She's so secure in her own mind that she doesn't even challenge her own biases and instead present them as fact. It's *such* an interesting character trait and it would be so fun to dig into. However, I also realize that probably also the exact reason why people dislike talking about her. She's a hypocritical murder cop accomplice and that can give anyone an incredibly sour taste in their tongue thinking about her (it gives me a sour taste rn like, should I really be writing about her?)There's just so much I want to pick her brain about though. Insert thing here about liking her as a character does not mean I like her as a person.
Peter Lukas is a piece of shit, but he's a funny piece of shit and I like that. He's living apathy and he's so useless and skfjejcjsnnd
Yeah I can't even defend him he's just such garbage, but I find him fun to bully. Someone once pointed out that when he lost the bet with Elias he acted like a little kid throwing a tantrum and I found it so funny. This man isn't doing anything, he's not even the captain of his own ship in anything but name, Tadeas does all the navigation shit. He really is just some rich kid. A sad strange little man and he's unwillingly a fave because of it.
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An angsty au of fmbh where Aemond is compelled by Otto and Alicent to play the role of the bride once Luke says he’ll be downing that moon tea like it’s water. After a decade they’re fed up with Aemond’s lack of progress in seducing Luke, so they decide to take an absolutely horrible avenue and force Aemond to lie with the only Strong they have in league with them: Larys. Otto and Alicent are so convinced Luke is a Strong that they want to ensure Aemond’s bastard shares DNA with him. To say the least, it’s an extremely traumatic event for Aemond to experience this assault and it’s even worse for him when he falls pregnant. Luke has no choice but to accept Aemond’s pregnancy. While he does think Aemond has cheated, he never imagines it’s with a man nor does he imagine Aemond would ever disgrace himself with carrying a bastard. He has no choice but to believe the babe resulted from a night of drunken coupling. Everything falls apart when the baby is born and his hair is a dark red, the color of Lyonel Strong’s second wife and Larys’ mother. There is no denying that this is not Luke’s child and Aemond completely breaks down
Oh anon, you’re killing me here 😭
This is everything, I’m telling you. And the worst part is that I can see it all so clearly. Aemond going along with it because he’s always been his mother and grandfathers piece to move about the chest board as they please. He has such hero worship when it comes to his mother; she’s his rock, the only person who’s ever understood him even a little. To not go through with this would not only equate to being a failure but letting her down.
Being with a man of any sort that way but especially Larys is such a sickening thought that Aemond sees no choice but to get himself drunk because he knows he’d probably end up beating the man and running off as soon as he moves to touch him down there otherwise. Alicent gives him advice (not good advice but as a woman whose only experience with sex is being assaulted in her marriage bed she’s doing what she feels will help her son survive during.) Tells him to use oil beforehand because Larys won’t care to excite him, close his eyes and think of fond memories, and remain as silent as possible as to not over-excited Larys because he’ll likely begin to be rough at the sound of any moans. Aemond goes into this like a soldier preparing for war and it’s heartbreaking.
When he goes back to Diftmark Luke can already sense something is wrong with his husband…very wrong. Aemond looks like a ghost, pale white yet green in the cheeks. It’s so awful that Luke moves to touch his forehead to see if he’s coming down with fever but is immediately pushed away. Every time he tries to talk or initiate contact Aemond either yells or physically shoves him out of the way. At first he thought this was because he got into another fight with Aegon or maybe even Jace since he’s been in Kings Landing at their moms side for a few years, but three weeks down the line when Aemond announces he’s pregnant everything starts to come together.
At this point Aemond just found out himself but lies and says he’s known for a few weeks just to excuse his odd behavior.
He doesn’t look like someone who’s just found out they’re soon to have a child in Luke’s eyes. Not even every woman in his life has been over the moon to announce something like this to their loved ones. But he understands soon enough— Aemond likely feels out of place, wrong. Aemond is a masculine man through and through, there’s no doubt being pregnant is fucking with his head. So despite never having wanted children with his uncle Luke promises to be the perfect father and best husband he can in the face of their differences.
The pregnancy is hell to say the least. Aemond’s always crying, hiding himself away and having nightmares of that night with Larys. Not even Alicent can get through to him most of the time despite Luke having called her to remain with them for as long as Aemond would like.
Luke is attentive, always kind and never arguing back when Aemond tries to start something. Insists on honoring every food craving and making sure new cloaks and dress shirts are tailored to fit Aemond through the months even though Alicent thinks her son should dress similarly to Luke now that he’s so far along.
Then the day comes; both families are present and drowning in bad tension while waiting. Things are going smoothly (kinda) when Aemond can be heard screaming “no” and “it’s not right” Luke is the first to barge into the birthing chambers, stopping in his tracks when he catches Aemond failing about while the maester holds their red headed blue eyed baby boy. It all clicks then— Aemond’s behavior, the fact that he’d even gotten pregnant at all when Luke couldn’t remember the supposed night of conception. Something horrible happened, and now a child has been forced into it.
What surprises Aemond the most isn’t that the child has been born looking nothing like he should’ve, but that Luke takes hold of him with a smile smile before announcing that they’ve made the most beautiful being in the world. Bouncing the baby as he admits that he’s always thought Alicent’s hair was pretty, now their son has inherited it.
Aemond can only cry.
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