#but quickly i realized I was watching a charecter who would never see herself as in the wrong and her fans did the same thing
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rise-my-angel · 1 year ago
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I am here for your takes on Dani. I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought her x Jon smelled of hot garbage. Like at best she was meh, and then when the two of them met I was just like "oh no....you're an entitled bitch". And now that its been years since I last consumed GoT, my thoughts have fermented into "oh no, she really is a conqueror" "oh no, everyone loves her because 'pretty badass lady'" "oh no i'm the fandom minority again". Anyway, where was I. She and Jon had no chemistry. The end.
The *only* way putting them in a romance even makes sense in concept is when you realize Benioff and Weiss gave Jon the Young Griff arc. It's why they gave him a Targ name, beacuse if they call him "aegon" then they can fufill that part of the books without ever having to establish Young Griff as his own character. He is the supposed son of Rhaegar Targaryean and Elia Martell, he goes to Westeros with intentions of using his better claim to take the throne and intends initially on marrying Dany, and it's theorized heavily that Dany will see his claim as a threat and the Burning of Kings Landing will come down to Aegon against Dany.
Jon Snow has nothing to do with that. He is a moral opposite to Dany as a charecter, and we've seen him time and time again be at strong odds against people with her morals. But by giving him the Young Griff arc, it means putting him into the romance spot when it makes no sense for him.
Hey I put a read more beacuse I cannot shut the fuck up about how this relationship is just rape and abuse but beacuse Jon's a man we think he wants it.
All of season 7 Jon is so out of place because he doesn't belong anywhere near Dany's Iron Throne plot, and he's being forced to interact romantically with a charecter that clearly he does not like as a person and is uncomfortable with.
But, Dany is the sacred cow of the GoT/asoiaf fandom. You love her and if you critizize her for villanious actions or morals then you are using bad faith towards her. While I personally don't like her, I don't mind other people liking her but I despise that her stans all refuse to allow any conversation about her being a morally bad person. A person who enjoys cruelty and death, enjoys creating fear and is smug when she can control others. That is not a person Jon would love, let alone even respect.
Their entire relationship wreaks of abuse, of Jon being forced into this and knows he cannot leave it without risking his and his families lives. Remember when Tyrion gave a very small level critisism of her actions and she angrily accused him of treason and siding with his family instead of her? Well what do people think would she have done, if her attraction to Jon was refused? Someone who she took all the defenses away from, all the power from, and could have killed at any moment (dont make an ygritte comparison mimi dont make an yrgitte comparison this is a different anti jon x fandom female fave charecter post).
I don't care how the show frames it, or what the intent was. What we got on screen, was Jon Snow being held prisoner to an immoral, cruel, military conquerer. And when that woman was attracted to him, she essentially forced herself into his life and gave him all but no choice. The Jon bending the knee scene and..the uh...boat...scene...later...uhhh....anyways, those to me feel so out of charecter. You cannot convince me Jon did any of this willingly. He is clearly trapped in this situation and cannot leave and is only with her beacuse she is violent and bloodthrirsty. But beacause Jon is a strong, capable man, it's not talked about as if he's the victim and that is insane to me. (Oh my good god the ygritte comparisons are almost laughable send help).
I don't consider a lot past season 5 to be canon, but if I am forced too, then I refuse to accept Jon was a willing participant in that relationship.
Jon's parentage reveal will always be about the revelations of his mother, and the understanding and acceptance of WHY Ned raised him the way he did. And how it was both his parents, his mother and his adopted father who loved him and kept him safe. The very fact that Young Griff's entire story is based around whether or not he truly is Rhaegar's son as opposed to that being a twist reveal is beacuse HE is the charecter whose Targaryean links is the important one. Jon's story is about him as Stark, and is always shown to be the moral opposite of Dany.
Their relationship in the best senario is not canon, but if it has to be, then there is no world in which Jon is there of his own free will. He is being forced into this relationship against his will. But considering his other love interest was another charecter who essentially forced him into a relationship against his will, and we were supposed to root for that tells me all I need to know.
Dany is a sacred cow charecter, and her stans are unreasonable in defending her. When you can like a charecter and critize them for their actions. Ned Stark was an idiot for ever trusting Petyr Baelish, Catelyn Stark's spiteful attitude and neglect of Jon Snow is was abusive behavior, Theon Greyjoy was a moron who ruined his own life for a father who long since abandonded him. Bam all charecters I love and there are some major flaws that I refuse to defend them for but thats also what makes them good charecters. Their flaws arent writing flaws, they are personal flaws for them as people.
Dany is not allowed to have personal flaws she is always to be justified even with incredibly bad faith defenses, but when she is flawed it's the writings fault not hers. Dany is a cruel, sadistic, controlling, military tyrant who enjoys watching her subjects fear her and her dragons. And she forced Jon Snow into a relationship with her beacuse otherwise then he is against her and we already knew she has no use for people who dont support her to be alive.
Jon Snow deserved better then to have both his love interests be domineering, controlling, abusive women who forced him into a romantic and sexual relationship.
Also, I mean, incest being normal is only a learned trait from Targaryens supporting their own blood purity. Jon was not raised to think incest is normal. Dany thinks its normal beacuse she and Viserys both were raised to think that, and Young Griff thinks marrying Dany is normal beacuse he too was raised with the mentality that Rhaegar would've been raised with. Jon finding out Dany was his aunt would've had Jon looking right at Sam and just
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ladylazuli97 · 5 years ago
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Can you talk more about how Adora was so wildly out of character this season, because you're one of the only other people I've seen who mentioned that. Sure, we all knew c/a was gonna be canon in some way but the fact that Adora seemed to forget everything Catra had done (including 'kill' Angella, who was a mother figure to her too) was so crazy. It bothered me more than absolutely anything so see Adora's development chucked out the window.
Take a sit. This is gonna be a long post.
One of the reasons I fell for this show so much was because I identified with Adora on a very personal level. She's the character that I have been waiting for all my life. When I saw her on the other seasons, I knew what decision she was going to make, how she was going to act, I imagined how she felt.
During this season (except for the first episode I think) I was in a constant "Adora, sweetie... what the fuck are you doing?". It's as simple as... when Catra calls to let them know she's going to send Glimmer. When Adora heard her voice, she immediately was like "Catra omg my love I missed you so much!!!" and??? Yeah, no??? After everything what happened on S4, I think a much more real response would have been for her to be like "Catra? What are you doing there? Now you're on the Horde Prime side? -.-". I mean, it seemed weird to me in the first place that Adora was never suspicious of Catra. They didn't interact during S4, as far as Adora knew, Catra was still a bad guy, she had no reason to trust her. At least not until Glimmer explained the situation to her.
Ahhh and talking about Glimmer... Forget the ship for a moment. You could see how Adora was legitimately worried throughout S4 about her situation with Glimmer. You could see it was something that mattered a lot to her,  it hurt her that things were wrong with the queen. And now you tell me that when they finally reunited again, her reaction was "Yeah it's okay I'm also sorry where is Catra?"
During the final episode of S3 Adora finally realizes something very important. She is not to blame for the things Catra is doing. She offered Catra more than once to join the Rebellion, giving her plenty of opportunities to redeem herself (fuck, even Shadow Weaver give her a chance to join them). Catra rejected them all, so Adora finally decides to accept that there's nothing more she can do for her. During S4, Adora and Catra meet ONLY ONCE throughout the season, and the meeting doesn't seem significant to them at all. After what happened in "The Portal", Adora got over Catra. She realizes that even though she cares about her, Catra has already made her decision. Adora cannot continue to want to save someone who doesn't want to be saved, and although it hurt, she had to leave her behind. They didn't even talk about her, except when Scorpia mentioned her at E10.
Knowing this... That Adora listens to a message from Catra from the enemy ship and doesn't suspect at any moment that it could be a trap? She decides to come back to save her even though Glimmer just got out of there and could be traumatic to her??? That she immediately forget everything Catra did and accept her "sorry" as a valid apology??? And suddenly she's very clingy with her and she blushes at everything Catra does??? And now it turns out that she has been totally in love with Catra all this time??? Don't get me wrong, that last one is not bad, but it seems to me that Adora would have been a little more open about that. If I knew her the way I think I do, that Adora was so in love with Catra from the beginning would have been very evident to everyone (no my friends, we watched the same show, I'm sorry but IT WASN'T). C'mon, even the plot would have been a little different. But no, they showed us how Adora completely got over her and grow... and then they made them a couple there without any further development.
Adora grew a lot as a person in the past seasons. She learned the value of love and true friendship, and became a loyal and strong hero with solid moral principles. And now she has put aside everything she has learned in order to forgive Catra immediately, and didn't mind putting others at risk as long as Catra was comfortable. I think I can say that Adora had more reasons to distrust Catra than to distrust Shadow Weaver on S4. And you can say "Okay but Catra was her friend, it's normal that I forgive her so quickly" *sight* The thing I loved most about She-Ra was that nothing was solved with the power of love and friendship...
Adora felt guilty for leaving Catra behind. Catra tried to kill her, kidnapped her best friends, attacked her new home, hurt many innocent people, activated a machine that could destroy the entire universe, indirectly she was responsible for what happened to Angella... And despite everything, Adora always offered her a chance, at least until she realized that enough was enough. She suffered a lot for Catra, and when she finally was fine without her, you tell me that she appears and that Adora acts as if no one had happened? I find it incredible that people are accepting that. Even if you're a c/a shipper, you should notice this is wrong. It's your ship, damn it! You must complain that it should have been better developed! No just "okay they're together... Boom! Kiss!"
Adora had a beautiful charecter development in the other seasons. But throughout the entire S5, she acted as she would have on the first day she left the Horde. Sorry guys, but S5 Adora is not the force captain I saw growing up to became the savior of Etheria. That’s why I can't accept this season as a real thing. You can't just take a great hero and make her forget all her principles just to make a ship canon.
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Charecters: Dan, Phil, Cindy(Made up), reader.
Pairing: Dan×Reader
Warnings: language, oral sex female receiving, dominant kink?
A/N: so this was requested, not sure if she want to be tagged specifically but she wanted a fic where Dan and Reader were at a party and it looked like Dan was cheating and it ends up as oral sex. Did my best :) also, there is a warning before the smut so if you wanna read just up till then you can :) enjoy!
“Are you ready to go Darling?” Dan asked you as he knocked on your bedroom door. “Just a little bit longer, I’m sorry but you’re the one who came early” you shouted back through the door. “You know the way around my house. Go hang out with one of my sisters or something” You knew he would say no but you figured you would try. “I don’t think so. I’m fairly certain Emily has a crush on me. Charlotte as well…” he said quietly. You just chuckled and finished getting ready.
You finally opened the door to see Dan leaning up against the wall in the hallway waiting for you. “You look lovley. Come on then let’s go!” He grabbed your hand and led you to the door. “Are you oka-”
“Hey Dan!!! Where are you and Y/N going?” You’re little sister asked as she was practically hanging on Dan.
He sighed and replied “Hey Emily. We’re going to a party. It’s a grown up party though. Sorry Em.” You could see the dissapointment on her face.
You said goodbye to Emily and got into the car. “So…. you’re okay?” You asked quietly. “Yeah I’m fine love. Just uh… trying to avoid Emily and Charlotte. They are just a lot to handle, I’m sorry.”
“You’re sorry? I’m sorry, for having such bratty sisters” you joked. You went the whole car ride talking about annoying stuff they do.
You walked into the party and the smell immediately hit you. Booze, smoke, sadness. Gotta love college parties. You were staying at your parents for the weekend and you were glad to see everybody.
Dan led you by the hand over to your group of friends.
“Y/N! I’m so glad you made it!!!” A particularly busty brunette who you barely recognized yelled as she hugged you.
“You too!” You said awkwardly back.
“Well… aren’t you gonna introduce me to your… friend” she said as she looked Dan up and down.
You took a second to take in how obnoxious she was being and then told her. “Of course. This is my BOYFRIEND. Daniel.” You said as kissed his cheek.
Completely ignoring you and staring down Dan with those big blue eyes. She held her hand out in front of her and said in a seductive tone. “Nice to meet you. I’m Cindy”
You totally saw right threw her. You looked up at Dan to roll your ey- What?! He was falling for it?! Nope. Time to take matters into your own hands. “Okay well Cindy it was nice to see you. I’ll meet up with you later. Goodbye.” You turned and left with Dan.
A few of his friends called him over and you talked to them for a little bit and then got called over by your friends. You left Dan. He is a big boy. He can talk to his friends by himself for a little while.
You were really tired after abut 45 minutes. You looked around to find Dan. He was nowhere to be found. You walked round ad asked a couple people where he was.
“Hey, Phil. Have you seen Dan? I can’t find him anywhere and I’m getting worried.” You said to his best friend, obviously he would know where Dan was.
“Why are you so worried? Does Y/N have a little crush??” He said in a singsongy tone.
Shit. He doesn’t know. Dan was gonna make a video of Phil finding out ugghh “Well he was drinking quite a bit and I don’t want him driving home. I don’t want him getting hurt that’s all” clever lie. Well, clever enough for Phil who was obviously sloshed. Dan hadn’t even picked up a beer.
“I saw him leaving with Cindy about 5 minutes ago. The way she was leaning on him I’m sure he isn’t driving anywhere tonight.”
Cindy. Your heart broke at Phil story. Dan cheated on you? Why? Dan wouldn’t do that. Or so you thought. You were furious.
You pushed you way to the woman who was standing next to Cindy when she introduced herself to Dan.
“Where is Cindy?!” You yelled, louder than the music.
“Cindy got duurrrunkk! She went to her room. Your boyfriend was walking her there. You better watch out, Cindy is such a whore” she slurred. “Aren’t you guys friends?” You asked confused. “Yeah! I’m a slut too!”
You shook your head trying to focus. “What’s Cindys dorm number?” “319. But make sure to knock!” She winked and you walked away.
You pushed and shoved your way through the party. You ran down the long hallways. Tears flooding your eyes. You found yourself at room 319. Ready to tear Dan apart. You slammed the door open to see Dan laying her down in the bed. Her face was buried in her neck. His eyes caught yours and he didn’t even look guilty. Just concerned.
“Y/N, are you oka- Cindy! Knock it off. Time to sleep!” He said as he shoved the covers over her face. He walked over to you and wiped away your tears. “Love? What’s the matter?” Was he trying to hide it? Did he think you were a moron?
You slapped him. He held his cheek as he stood up straight. “Y/N? what has gotten into you?!”
“I’ll walk myself back to my Dorm. I’ll get my stuff from mom’s in the morning. Don’t bother driving me home.” You screamed.
You ran down the halls. Tears running down. Your face. You wiped them on your swearshirt. You got to your dorm and slammed the door. And called your best friend, Georgia.
‘I’m gonna kill him. I’m actually going to kill him how could he do this to you?!’
“I don’t know Georgia! One minute we were bonding or whatever over dumb stuff Charlotte said and the next, he was making out with her!”
'Dan is such a dick. How could he think she was in any way better than you?’
“Dan isn’t a Dick. He is just disloyal. I shouldn’t have overreacted I should go apoligize. I’m not good enough for him and that’s my fault.”
You got up and started putting on your shoes.
'Y/N you don’t apoligize! He was the one who cheated on you! He will come crawling back and you can break him! He needs to be taken down.’
“No, Georgia. I am trash, I don’t deserve him an-”
You heard a knock at the door. “Go away!!!” You yelled. The knocking came once again.
'Y/N? You there?“ You hummed in response. 'Listen, babe. You aren’t trash and he is the one who doesn’t deserve yo-’ you cut her off mid sentence after a firm knock. "Georgia I gotta go. Some asshole won’t stop knocking on my door. I’ll call you back, okay?”
You wipe your tears just enough that the stranger couldn’t tell you had been crying moments before.
You opened the sorry and all of the rage came back. “Dan? You’ve got to be kidding me. What are you doing here?”
“Can I come in?” He asked even though you knew damn well he was coming in with or without your permission.
You shrugged and moved the side so he could come in.
It was quiet. So quiet. Neither of you knew what to say. You cried silently, a tear ran down your cheek as you stared him down.
Broken words spilled out of your mouth “How could you do this to me? Am I not good enough for you?”
“Look, I know what it looks like but I wasn’t cheating on you Y/N! How could you think that? I love you. It hurts that you would think that I’m so low that I would kiss Cindy!”
“Well what am I supposed to think, Dan?!” You screamed.
“You were supposed to fucking trust me!” You had never heard Dan scream so loud. At least, not at you.
You were full on crying now. You just wanted this to be over. You wanted an apology. You decided to take a different route.
-Smut below-
“Dan, please. I don’t wanna fight anymore. I trust you. I want to play. Please Sir.”
He looked so confused. You are very good at manipulation. “What? What are you talking about?” He asked quietly, not making eye contact.
“I see your bulge, I know you screaming makes you feel - Dominant.” You kneeled in front of him. “I know you want it so bad.”
He just looked down at you. Looked almost angry. Goodness, he was hot. You could feel your panties getting wet. You realized you could use that as a manipulation tactic.
You leaned back and pulled up your dress to reveal your pink panties with a dark spot right over your clit.
“Well well well. It looks like I’ve got a job to do.” He crawled inbetween your legs and hooked his long index fingers through the hem of your panties and ripped them down expertly.
He licked a long stripe from your clit up your belly button. Then he flattened his tongue and lapped along your slit. You were shaking. “P- please Si-Sir. Morre” he looked up and made eye contact with you. Saw the need in your eyes. He smirked and darted his tongue into your clit. You moaned loudly and felt him smile.
He started thrusting his tongue faster. You started meeting his thrusts, fucking yourself on his tongue.
He started eating your pussy, so violently, so quickly, so intense. You could barely handle it.
“Sir, need to, to, c-cum” he looked up and said wait. Then kept eating you out. He could feel your walls fluttering around his tongue.
He crawled up and shoved his cock into you with no warning. You came just from shock. He was pumping in and out as fast as he could. He held you by your throat. He leaned down to kiss you. You could taste yourself on his lips. He slowed down to a stop and just sat there, kissing. Barely even moving his lips.
He slowly crawled back down and licked your pussy clean. You were sensitive but didn’t care.
“Baby? You know I wouldn’t ever cheat on you.” The thought of your fight came back and you immediately started crying again. Silently. Just closed your eyes and felt the tears running down.
He crawled back up. And kissed you. “Shh, hey, can I explain so you believe me?” You nodded.
“Cindy got drunk, really drunk. She started hitting on me. She said she was gonna drive over to her best friends house and I could come if I wanted to. She said her friend was up for anything. I told her she shouldn’t be driving and I would walk her up to her room and as soon as I closed the door she started kissing my neck. She jumped onto me and I layed her on the bed hoping she would pass out. She didn’t look good. I told her to stop so many times so I just kind of ignored it, I was gonna be there 30 seconds to make sure she didn’t die and then I was gonna leave. I should have told you before I left but she was walking out the door before I could find you. I’m so sorry. I love you Y/N”
You believed him. Why wouldn’t you? Yeah it seemed like the fake-est story ever but you trusted him. You forgave him and you snuggled into him. Then you heard a knock at the door.
“Y/N?! It’s Georgia! Let me in unlock the door! I have something to tell you!”
Shit. You probably shouldve texted her. You didn’t want her to walk in to see Dan. She would kick his ass no questions asked.
“Can you tell me through the door?” You yelled back.
“I mean, I guess. I saw Dans car outside! It was locked so I smashed a window and stole his keys! You should have them!”
“Shit”
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