#but not just church's love for tex

[agentark]

see you around, rvb

[eastgaysian]

i loved you so much it was making me sick

[itsyouch]

HES ALIVE!!!

Dounut and Doc is the best thing that could've ever happened to me

IM SO HAPPY I didn't realize how good of a dynamic Donut and Doc are

[vanessakimballs]

restoration is good (TO ME) because after 12 years we finally get to see carolina gather the clarity to understanding tex. just as carolina was beaten down, when we don't have sarge or wash to guide us, it happens.

tex saves us. the woman who failed defies fate and saves the day.

[fischiee]

look ive been getting so caught up in the misogyny of tex but i am always thinking about the scene where church forgets her bc like

the world is already ending. church is 100% positive both he and tex are going to die in there and he is fully prepared for that moment. and so the moment of him forgetting her isn’t actually him erasing her from the narrative or killing her himself to break the cycle or anything like that.

it’s him promising to let her go. to stop bringing her back. to finally let her stay dead and stop dragging her back to a world she doesn’t actually belong in. he’s finally returning her agency to her, by letting the ghost that he has resurrected time and time again finally rest.

[akalegos]

Ok but whose up to discuss the implications this has on tuckers and church’s relationship

[vanlegion]

Eh, I was in a weird experimental mood. Have this. Dubbed 'Who Are You?' Pretty sure I've said this but I love characters that either are not human or beyond human... because existentialism is fun to think about.

My monitor makes this look 3-D which is awesome.

[tiredandoptimistic]

Mmmmm, Church has his whole beautiful speech at the end of season eight about letting love drift away and trusting that it'll come back to you, but even as he says the words he clearly hasn't internalized them. He still spends all of season nine desperately pursuing Tex through the memory unit, he still believes that they're meant to be and he just needs to catch her. By the end of season nine he finally gets it, letting her go for real, and I just adore that moment so much. I love that Church is such a deeply flawed character, who talks the talk of character development before he's able to walk the walk, if that makes sense. He knows the lesson he's supposed to learn, but it takes him a bit longer to actually change his behavior. It's Tucker of all people (but of course, memory unit Tucker who's really an extension of Church's subconscious) who's able to point out that actually chasing Tex through deeper and deeper layers of a failing memory unit is the exact opposite of letting her go and trusting that she'll come back. After that, he's a little more free. He'll never forget Tex, of course, but he's accepted that his memories of her aren't as important as her autonomy as a person. And then, at the end of season thirteen, when he's given one last opportunity to relinquish control and trust the people he loves to handle everything, he finally takes it.

[sharkface]

Last post is SO real Carolina really is what people want Washington to be. Like. Washington never got a redemption they just adopted him he never "earned" anything he was sort of saved by the reds and blues not really giving that much of a shit if he's an objectively bad person or not (he is btw, for all people talk shit about his resilience or whatever, his main driving trait post-epsilonization is VERY consistently selfishness and eventually unwarranted self righteousness, even if that manifests in superficially selfless ways).

Carolina however had to actively come to grips with her treating the reds and blues as disposable and worthless even though they'd have been fine just hanging out with her, she drags them into her business and then gets angry and defensive when don't take to being pushed around without knowing what they're doing it for. When they decide not to come with her to the Director's hideout she feels abandoned, and it's them eventually coming around to help anyway that makes her realize her problem is that she is scared to care about people not just because she's scared to lose them but because she doesn't see anyone as her equal- She never had, and then couldn't afford to when Tex came around, repeatedly compounding her own self-imposed isolation, convincing herself she didn't need anyone else until there was no one left. People she was responsible for! Who left her because she wouldn't let them do anything else! Like. It's the reds and blues who saved her, because they always saw her as an equal, because they came through for her in a way no one ever had after she'd treated them like shit.

And then during the chorus trilogy, the true warrior simulation shows that her worst fear is regressing to that past version of herself that got the freelancers killed, who would have gotten the reds and blues killed. She loves them and she chose to be a better person for them... But she's a girl so nobody cares. This is to say nothing of her dynamic with her family (and Church) and particularly Tex who saw her for what she was and wanted to save her but (in line with a lot of things that happened to Tex) was put in the exact position that would mean she never could. Fuck you Carolina is awesome

[agentbuckshot]

one of my favorite parts of rvb is the portrayal of unconventional heroes with non heroic motives because none of the characters of our antagonists are good people to a fictional standard. they’re also not bad people in this exaggerated fictional sense. they’re conventionally dislikable, Tucker is annoying, church is bossy, grif is lazy, simmons is a kiss ass, caboose is a moron, wash ok I dont have anything bad to say about you but he’s definitely not a good person he’s a buzzkill I guess, donut is overly stereotyped tk an absurd amount, sarge is perfect love you, tex is edgy.

it’s like they said ‘let’s take a group of people with such a large array of this guy fucking sucks as a concept, and somehow to a large demographic make them the best characters and the most human characters they have ever fucking seen in their lives’. rvb isn’t about heroes, it’s about a bunch of shitty, selfish (with some exceptions) people who keep getting roped into saving the worlds while trying to do what benefits them most, in which in the end, typically doesn’t end up benefiting them and I think that’s the bow ontop

I’m not saying rvb is perfect, it’s just as flawed as the characters and I think that’s what makes it so important to me

[slyvester101]

Tucker wasn’t there when Church died. Well, when he died the first time. When Alpha died, he should say. When his Church died. 

It was weird to hear about it, even weirder to see a part of him running around like that moment of time didn’t happen. Because Tucker knew this wasn’t his Church, he spent way too long bickering with him in Blood Gulch to not know the differences between his best friend and his amnesiatic copy, but the similarities are uncanny. Sometimes he’s tricked into thinking it’s actually his Church, only for him to misremember the details of a story they lived through, only for him to forget Tucker’s name, only for him to look blankly as Tucker chuckles an inside joke under his breath. 

And then Kinda-but-not-really-Church dies again, stuck in a memory unit and swept away by the UNSC, their newest recruit spray painted to look just like him. It’s not quite as fucky as when Not-Church was walking around acting like Real-Church, but Tucker still does a double take everytime he hears the wrong voice speaking behind a light blue helmet. 

And then Carolina comes around, takes them through hell to get Not-Church back, except he’s different. He’s more like Tucker’s Church. He cracks inside jokes, starts calling Tucker by name on the first try, remembers Blood Gulch as well as the rest of them. For a moment, Tucker thinks he’s gonna be reunited with his best friend, that he’s actually going to have him back and get to talk to him like old times and not have this gaping hole that Church left when he died. 

But he doesn’t get that. Of course he doesn’t. Because the universe just loves spitting in Tucker’s face, loves giving him a taste of what he wants before taking it away. It gave him a son, and then killed him, and then brought him back and then forced Tucker to send him away so he didn’t get dragged into a fucking fire fight over a stupid alien artifact. It gave him a home, a place he loved and hated more than anything and then sent him away, gave him a job he loved and hated just as much, and then he was back on his bullshit with his team, fighting Tex and a giant ex-AI possessed freelancer the size of a truck. 

It gave him his best friend and then took him away again and again and again.

It didn’t even let him be there when he died, didn’t even let him grieve before throwing another copy at him to deal with. 

He didn’t even get to say goodbye. He never gets to say goodbye.

[leonardalphachurch]

(tags by @lafaithreine)

this is hilarious but unfortunately i don’t think either of them would be smart enough to figure out that that’s NOT what’s supposed to happen during sex

chucker would have freaky ai brain sex if they could 😔 -⚡

someone in the tags also said chucker. you all get me

[mattastr0phic]

Thanks for all the kind words about our Simmons!

Meanwhile, stuff about RvB S19 Spoilers under the cut.

I want to start out with the movie definitely felt like they tried to put what love they could in it, but with time constraints, Rooster Teeth being shut down, and budgeting, a lot of character development and general awareness of where the characters would be left where they put them suffered. But Church and Tex reuniting with her being made of the memories of how she wanted to be remembered was beautiful.

I would talk more about how other characters felt completely sidelined, and it was definitely hurtful that Donut got basically nothing even if he was a part of the main team (literally just make an excuse about his armor. Or hue change him in editing. Not like it hasn't been done before) but I feel like most of it's already been said by others.

My most important note is: If Simmons is now the leader of Red Team.... what Red Team? What war? What people is he leading? His "leadership" developments consisted of: Running at the Meta, being called 'sir', and throwing something really well. He hadn't even displayed leadership qualities before he was handed the torch here, unless you count previous seasons where he still didn't manage it well, and realized it was a part of his own issues with authority.

I know it's all over already, but it would've worked better if he had been helping out as a leader earlier on, and properly earned it, achieving some sort of small victory against the Meta even if they were still beaten back for Carolina and Tex to take charge in combat. He'd learn that the position was exhausting, and that he would be done when their war ended. Maybe even funnel it into a different occupation. Go home with Grif. It's over.

[chex-appreciation-week]

Chex week will be happening from October 13th through the 19th!

And with that, we also get the official announcement of the prompts!

There are no limits or rules to how these can be interpreted. You can go as literal or as artsy or silly as you want with them, the skies the limit!

Day 1: Memory

As they always say: memory is the key. Maybe it’s a simple reflection on the past, maybe it’s the fact that they’re the literal manifestations of someone else’s memories, a reflection of a once great love… or perhaps Church just forgot to close the damn cabinet again.

Day 2: Fluff

Our favorite doomed duo is no stranger to angst and tragedy… so let’s give them a break! Let them enjoy some domestic bliss for once, and spend time in each other’s company without the overbearing burden of being doomed by the narrative. Just this once.

Day 3: Family

These two found their own little family inside of a box canyon, consisting of idiots and morons but they are their idiots and morons… or perhaps you want to go further back in time to when there was just Leonard and Allison and a beautiful baby girl and the future seemed so much brighter… or maybe Church and Tex just adopted a cat

Day 4: AU

Now they’re medieval knights fighting to save the kingdom! Or maybe Church is the super grumpy coffee shop barista with a crush on the cool tattoo artist across the street! Or maybe it’s the same story we all know… but that one moment played out differently… the universes are infinite!

Day 5: Cycle

History repeats itself, time is a flat circle, however, you want to put it there’s no denying the cycle of Leonard Church and Agent Texas. A story destined to be repeated again and again until it finally breaks… or perhaps they’re just teaching Caboose how to ride a bicycle, who knows!

Day 6: Goodbye

Don’t say goodbye… I hate goodbyes… but at the end of the day, you have to let go and say those dreaded words. You have to accept that some people are truly gone. Or sometimes you just don’t get to say those words at all… or maybe… well actually I don’t know how to make this one silly

Day 7: Free Day

Make whatever you like! It can be anything and everything, maybe expand on a previous idea, create a whole new world, or make something sad or silly or soft! This is your day to shine!

As said before any and all content is welcome in this event! Art, fanfic, meta, analysis, playlists, memes etc! If it’s Chex I’ll take it! My only rule is NO AI GENERATED CONTENT!

The tags for this event will be #chex appreciation week and #chex appreciation week 2024

[fischiee]

at the end of the day church and tex are pygmalion and galatea and we just have to accept that. like the story of the sculptor who fell in love with his own art

bc she really is just his own creation that he loves and wants to love him back and wants to be whole but she’s.. not. she’ll never be anything outside of him, she’d never exist if it weren’t for his imagination (since she isn’t truly allison she is his concocted version of her) and because of that she can’t be human

he loves her as some fucked of version of loving himself (he loves who he was when he was with her and loves that he created her and that she is wholly his)

the difference is that alpha is no god, no aphrodite, and he cannot create life, he can only fragment himself which is why they do not get the happy ending of pygmalion and galatea, they instead are doomed to repeat and echo the agonies of the people they mimic

[fishfingersalad]

In general up until like season 11 most of the women in the show are very one dimensional and they're often ignored until they can move along the guys plotlines. They’re also focused on a lot less. Aside from like. Carolina. The girls are all shelved over and over. Kai just got straight up removed for like 7 seasons. Comparing the girls to Redteam. Both are part of the plot but aren’t the main focus of the story, but red team gets fleshed out dynamics, diverse characters, multi faceted personalities, even Donut the guy whose personality is “gay jokes” gets hobbies and friends and interesting interactions. And the girls get. The angry one. Died to further the plot. Party girl. Hell Tex gets killed over and over to give motivation to the Churches. A lot of the depth and complexities of the girls has to be made up by the viewer. And while there are good women leaders in the show, there are like no girls who are allowed to have character development sans Carolina. They’re not allowed to make mistakes or grow from them. Their shows of emotions aren’t taken seriously by anyone around them. The girls are for the most part not allowed to be anything but perfect. When they make any mistakes they're immediately made out to be the bad guys. South is literally designed to be hated for traits that she shares with people like Sarge and Church. Ct is killed to give Wash trust issues and as a way to push her bf guys existence into the story and explain desert!ct. In general I absolutely love the girls and think they deserve better than what they got. For the person (tried to @ them but tumblr wont let me?) in the comments of one of my posts who asked me to explain why i think the way rvb women are written isn't good, thanks btw /gen. I love excuses to write out my thoughts <3