#but make no mistake Angelus does not HAVE to be Like That
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The only way the soul lore works for me as a source of guilt is if vampires can choose *not* to be evil. If they're just mindless demons who take over a host's body after they die, it makes no sense to feel guilty about the actions taken after that.
The demon isn't a separate thing, the person is still who they were when they died, demons just don't have inhibitions. So whatever it is they *want*, they do. Whatever it is that is the core of that person wants most is what is exemplified most in their demon form.
So in Angel's case, the guilt comes from not only having wanted those things and having done them, but from *having had the option not to.*
#which makes him look worse when Spike starts not being a dick cause he can#after so long of having a soul Angelus KNOWS better he really really does#but he does not WANT to be better#its just that with a soul its so crushingly terrible to be any worse than hes already been#that he won't add to it#but make no mistake Angelus does not HAVE to be Like That#thats a choice#i think Angel gets a lot more interesting if we acknowledge his behavior as CHOICES#hes literally the worst fucking person#he will cause pain and suffering everywhere he goes#to everyone including himself because he's far more in love with pain#than any other character in this series#hes a tortured artist whos art is torture#stuck inside a prison cell of his own making#built out of every sin he's ever committed stacked on top of each other#thats FANTASTIC characterization#much more compelling than Well He Can't Help It#btvs angel#soul meta#btvs meta
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not to go off but i think the reason i love wesley/lilah so much, and more specifically in same cases - lilah herself, is because she genuinely loved wesley. stehpanie said that, during the dress-up scene is when lilah realized she could love - and she loved wesley. and i think it's so important because when wesley is going to cut her head off (because he can't bare the idea of anyone else doing it) he tells her "she didn't love him. she couldn't." and i've always seen that, the tone of his voice, the ache of hurting as: you didn't love me because you can't. i am not someone that can be loved. but she did love him. i know a lot of people don't like wesley but you can't deny he comes from trauma and abuse, and a father who did not love him and was not shy about it. and something so sad about it is because a lot of what wesley does i think stems from a trauma response - and even after everything and shooting his not!dad he still calls him at the end of the episode because he wants his dad to love him. he still loves his dad. and i think this is so important when talking about wesley's character because everything is dad did - putting him down, locking him in a closet, terrorizing him - has stayed with him into adulthood. he never got over anything or made peace with it.
and i really believe his "billy" persona was really a mirror of his own father/how he was possibly treated. it would make a lot of sense that wesley would repress his fears of becoming like his father. and during his time with lilah he had lost everything - his "family," two of his best friends in the whole word, and his purpose. his very reason for being alive. she comes into his life in a time when he has no one, and she loves him. she kind and gentle and i think that's the reason i've been drawn to lilah because of that. because i know what it's like to be like wesley and make one mistake and never be able to live it down, to be laughed at or looked at weird when talking about abuse. to be grown and wonder why i am not capable of being loved - what is wrong with me that i'm not good enough?
and in my opinion, a lot of wesley "being in love with fred" stems from fred being a more loved version of wesley himself. she doesn't get made fun of for being smart, and she don't get entirely criticized for being weird. her parents love her unconditionally and supported her. anytime she experienced ptsd she was immediately comforted - all of these are good things and i hope it doesn't come off like i'm hating when i say these things. however, wesley is more seen in a negative light, and isn't given the same kindness and such.
and it feels like the idea of wesley being with fred and being in love with her in so pressed on. as if it's the only way wesley is going to matter - it's the only thing people think about him. so much so that fred becomes some conflicted in his relationship with lilah, which i truly do not understand because the first have of season 4 was them sharing a life together, and the second half was wesley grieving the loss of the love of his life. that rage he showed with faith, that need to get rid of angelus was grief. he's staring at her body and can't fathom the idea of having to cut her head off - and despite the memory erasing in season 5 he still remembers it. he sits in the basement for hours because he's struggling with the loss. and in his mind he wonders if it might be about redemption or "saving" lilah - but in the end of the season we learn that is was never about those things. it was about giving her peace. it was about how she had suffered enough (and i know we all love our bad ass lawyer, but she was often treated poorly).
how am i genuinely supposed to interoperate him burning her contract? was that not love? and there is no way wesley would have given up trying to free her because if that was really the case he would have it a long time ago. and what they have is such a beautiful thing together because neither one of them was expecting it. they weren't obligated to be kind to one another and yet after everything that happened they still found love. lilah never thought someone would ever do something that meaningful for her as burn her contract just life wesley never believed he could be loved in such a way.
"they have a powerful thing together."
anyway, i stopped doing something super important to write all this down. hope i am not being too annoying.
#things have been haunting me the last two days#and i am trying to process them the only way i know how#but also sometimes i think everything just happened in a huge roundabout way so they could find each other again and be together in hell#personal#might delete????#i talk too much#about weslah
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Bazubands part 1: A LESSON IN HUMILITY 🤣
So one of my projects for the winter break was to make a set of bazubands made for myself -- a middle eastern armor piece that provides all-in-one wrist/forearm/elbow protection, and the easiest way to get the coverage required for SCA fighting. (My garb is viking, but such are the exigencies of modern safety standards, that fighters usually wind up with a mix of armor types.)
Anyway, I packed up the necessary tools and materials and took them with me when I went to visit my parents, which is why the backdrop for these pictures isn't my usual workshop.
Found a pattern on google, cut it out of 10-12 oz veg tan, traced/carved/tooled it:
(You can see why this is the easiest way to get elbow protection, it's WAY less fiddly than trying to do articulated plates around the joint.)
Soaked the elbow cop again (because it was starting to dry out by the time I was done tooling), rounded it out and stitched it up:
Dyed it black, in my parents' backyard:
(And if you use Angelus dyes, that's how you keep from spilling it -- the box has little perforations so that it can hold the bottle safely upright.)
WAX THAT MOTHERFUCKER:
It doesn't show in that picture, but I have a metal bowl of wax (jeweler's casting wax) melting on the stovetop. I alternate between brushing it onto the leather, which looks like the picture above, and then putting the leather in the oven at ~200F, at 10-20 minute intervals, until the wax soaks in. Repeat until the leather is fully saturated and does not absorb more wax. (This often takes hours, so find something else to multitask with.)
But when you're done -- ta da!
Your project will be thoroughly waterproof, very strong and hard, with a low lustre. It's functionally ABS plastic at this point.
The next step was padding, so I got some sheepskin and and fitted it to the inside:
(idk why it's so fucking orange, but the alternative was kind of a mint-mucus green. I think the orange is growing on me though.)
Time to pattern the other, simpler piece of the bazuband, because they're hinged to enclose your full arm:
(I couldn't do this earlier, and therefore do both pieces concurrently, because I had no idea how much bulk the padding was going to add to my arm. I suppose you could wrap your arm in padding when you're measuring at the start.)
Slapped a quick design on it:
(And carved & tooled it too, though I neglected to get pictures of that.)
And then--
DISASTER, MY FRIENDS.
I put it in the oven, and it lost its gd mind.
WHAT.
Seriously, just -- words do not do this abomination justice. o_O
LOOK AT IT.
Coming so close on the heels of the Khorasan pouch, which had turned out absolutely perfect and has been more widely shared and lauded than anything else I've posted, this was a humbling experience. 🤣 Like, yes you're good, Gabriel, but you're not immune to fucking up.
So what happened here? Why did the same leather as the bazubands, undergoing the exact same steps and processes, turn out like THIS?
I'd have to repeat the experiment to 100% confirm my theory, but I'm pretty sure the critical difference is that I was speed-running this one, and I didn't wait for the dye to fully dry before I started waxing it. It wound up with, essentially, wet leather hermetically encased in wax, and since the water didn't have anywhere to go, it did weird things to the structure of the leather fibers when it started heating up. And because I don't often work with wax, I had somehow never run into this situation before, and thus already learned that lesson.
Ah well.
It wasn't a huge amount of leather, and it was only like two hours of work, so I'm not that fussed about it. (More embarrassed than anything else, at what feels like a very rookie mistake -- and conscious that it could have been SO MUCH WORSE if that had happened to the larger bazuband pieces, which had a lot more time and materials sunk into them.)
Anyway, I'm going to tweak the pattern a bit, make it narrower at the wrist and a bit longer, and change the design to something that matches the dragon better -- and let it fully dry this time. 😂
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Why Boom Still Can’t Get Buffy Right
My love for the Buffyverse is concrete but it has its limits. Yesterday I had a very unpleasant experience finishing yet another unimpressive Buffy run, courtesy of Boom Comics. It’s always disappointing to me because Buffyverse has so much potential and untold stories. It’s a goldmine that is constantly held back and simply can’t find its footing in the comics medium. Why is that?
Boom’s been rather relentless in trying to make Buffy work. Several years and runs later, there’s still no big WOW story that can attract readers and viewers alike. Not just that, but even seasoned buffy fans don’t seem very interested in continuous attempts at rebooting the Slayer tale. You can blame the word reboot (it does tend to scare people) but the real reason is still Boom’s inability to deliver a good captivating story.
Boom had tried reinventing Buffy, sending her back to school, developing alternate realities and futures. But in every iteration, Buffy and the Scooby Gang were plagued with the same mistakes over and over again.
Hey, I’m not sure what I am, so bear with me here
The characters from Buffy are some of the most well-developed characters out there. Each one has a point of origin, a story, and a final form. We love them because we know them. And we know them extremely well.
Let’s take the fan-favorite, Spike. We’ve seen his whole afterlife and even bits of his life. We know how he became William the Bloody, then Spike, a neutered vampire, and finally, an ensouled champion. We know how, and more importantly, we know why.
I’d hate to throw in one more why but there is a reason Spike exists in the show, and we know it.
When you read Boom comics, it feels like writers stick him into every arc just because they like him. He brings nothing to the story, he has no soul or chip yet chooses to join the scoobies. That does not look like the Spike we know. That guy was in s2-s4, not s5-s7. That’s the guy from School Hard or the one who got the Gem of Amara and happily marched to kill Buffy.
But there’s nothing stronger than the author’s desire to make things ‘right’. Hence this spike lookalike joining the team every time.
The funny part is, I can very well imagine a soulless chipless Spike who’s not a monster. If Dru sires him and never sees him again, if she never introduces him to Angelus, if he keeps on writing his bloody awful poetry only forever. He probably would’ve turned out like that poor librarian guy whose glasses Dru broke or like Harmony who still tried to be decent. But it’s the writer’s job to explain it, to write it into the story, not just throw a character into a book and see whether they swim or go down. They will always go down.
Spike is only one of the issues here. In the show, both Kendra and Faith exist to show us the perfect (according to the council) and the fallen slayer. Two possible realities for Buffy. They have their own arcs (well, Faith does) but the show is strong because supporting characters serve a purpose. Just like the people we meet in real life always serve a purpose for us. You might believe that one character pushing the development of another is cruel, but that’s still how good stories are made. That’s still why Buffy is popular 20 years after the show’s finale.
Kendra and Faith did that for Buffy in the show. In the Boom comics they just exist. They show up for no reason and they just hang around. You can take them out of the story and nothing will change. At one point in the initial reboot there were three slayers at the same time, and that felt more like a fix-it fanfic than a quality comic book. Unfortunately, some slayers have to die and some have to turn evil. Besides, without her rebellious personality, Faith is meaningless.
I have one more bone to pick. I know that Buffy and Angel (still the OTP of the show!) are a complicated matter to many modern writers. And readers, and viewers. There’s no place to hide from the creep factor and even though I will defend this ship till the day everyone finally agrees with me, I can’t deny its presence. But that doesn’t mean you get to discard this ship and separate Buffy and Angel into different books. One doesn’t exist or grow without the other. There is no Buffy in love with a vampire without Angel. There is only Vampire. Slayer. Dead vampire.
Without Buffy, Angel is not in LA helping the helpless. He’s in New York eating low rats. Before trying to launch two separate books, how about Boom launches one good one, that provides background, even if revised and adapted to the modern days?
I always worried what would happen when that b*tch got some funding
All this chaotic mess with the characters determines the stories Boom puts out. They tend to have an interesting start but by the time issue 3 comes out, it’s either Camazotz flying around Sunnydale, a giant crab taking over the main street, or whatever the hell Silas was (a soul eater?) Didn’t care for him much. Not even when we were evil.
More often than not Boom writers suffer from the same disease that plagued Dark Horse comics – scale. Just because you can do anything doesn’t mean you should. Comics allow you to draw literally any kind of baddie but you are playing within a specific world, and suspense of disbelief only goes so far. Besides, in the show, it all grows gradually. You go from the Master to the First evil. In the comics… seriously, what the hell was Silas?
From what I’ve read so far, Boom knows how to ask interesting questions:
What if Buffy went to school today?
What if Willow took over as the slayer?
What if Buffy was older?
Those are all good what ifs but Boom has a problem following through. They don’t know the answer to this question and it feels like they’re making it up as they go along. If I’m being honest, it even feels like they wrote random ideas on pieces of paper, through them in a hat, and started pulling each time they hit a wall.
Characters show up for now reason (hi, Tara from the latest run), they don’t feel like themselves, and the saddest part – none of it feels like you are getting your favorite show back.
These characters deserve better than that.
And there’s not a one who can say this ended well
At this point, I don’t know if Boom wants Buffy comics to succeed. I don’t mean to be this dramatic but every time someone mentions comics, fans think Dark Horse. Not because they are still considered canon, but because they had a connection to the beloved show. Boom comics don’t give you that, so you can’t look the other way when writers don’t deliver. It’s just how it works.
I keep thinking what Boom can do to get out of this vicious circle. And I do believe there If they want to successfully play in the Buffyverse, they have to seriously up their game. It’s not impossible either. I mean, Something is Killing the Children is being released by the same studio. And what is that if not a more gruesome version of Buffy? So it’s not exactly magic. It’s doable.
Personally, I still hold out hope that someone would dare explore the terrifying bloody past of the Whirlwind. Wouldn’t that be fun and gory? I’d like to see deep well-thought-through stories of past slayers. I’d happily read a well-illustrated comic run based on In Every Generation. And if we have to go back to Buffy variants, why not reinvent her story? But before we get to that, we’d have to work through every step of every character. Get them to where we want them, and start with a story that we want to tell, from start to finish. From her first day as a slayer to her last one (she didn’t have to empower the potentials after all).
That, of course, requires a lot of work. And if Boom isn’t ready to put in that kinda effort, they could just move from season 5, introduce a new slayer, and watch how her adventures unravel.
Buffyverse is a hell of a property and there are too many stories waiting to be written. I’m probably still gonna give it a shot whenever Boom comes up with something new. I just hope I won’t have to write yet another long read complaining about it.
#buffy comics#buffy x angel#buffy summers#buffy the vampire slayer#buffyverse#buffy x spike#buffysource#comics#comic books#long reads#boom buffy#boom comics#btvs#btvs comics#kendra young#faith lehane
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Just saw someone being judgmental towards Buffy and Buffy ALONE for victim blaming in the Beauty and the Beasts episode…..
GEE I WONDER WHY BUFFY WOULD CURRENTLY THINK EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS TO VICTIMS IS THEIR FAULT AND WAS THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO PREVENT
Calling out only ONE character in btvs for this behavior, and the one who is victim blamed herself the most is not the call out you think it is…. Like have you been paying attention AT ALL up to this point??? Do you only see the victim blaming when it’s that blatantly obvious???
Btvs has a SYSTEMIC victim blaming problem that obviously stems directly from jw himself as xander is also the biggest perpetrator of blaming Buffy for every single terrible thing that happens to or even AROUND her followed by Joyce, Riley and Faith. Anya, Cordy, and Spike’s (in season 4) are used less frequently to blame Buffy as well with joss pretending they are just being blunt and honest but it’s just furthering the “everything is Buffy’s fault” narrative and that is NEVER countered by the narrative or any of the other characters!!!! Occasionally Willow will advocate for not attacking Buffy or assigning blame but even that is rooted in her fear of conflict and wanting to keep the peace more often than it being about believing Buffy isn’t at fault and just defending her.
It’s not until season 6 and joss is less involved that we finally get Spike telling Buffy “it isn’t her fault” with Katrina and Tara forgiving her for both loving and using Spike and girlie has an entire mental breakdown both times because being forgiven and accepted instead of blamed for mistakes literally DOES NOT COMPUTE and she BEGS to be punished and told she’s wrong because she doesn’t know how to accept anything else because of her treatment at the hands of her “friends”, family and romantic partners for the last five years
Even in fiction we need to practice not just looking at a person’s problematic behavior on an individual level but within the context of the systems they live in and the community they are surrounded by.
If you’re genuinely shocked and confused the parentified slayer who has heard “one girl in all the world” more times than she can count, was blamed by her mother for “not making better choices and having better judgment” when she was the victim of a manipulative and predatory older man and feels responsible for all the harm and deaths ANGELUS caused just because she had sex once AND for having to send Angel to hell and therefore feels responsible for nursing him back to health as well you haven’t been paying attention to the actual dynamics at play or what’s been going on up to that point AT ALL.
#lord protect me from the bad takes and for the love of GOD kept them off my timeline 😩😩😩#mercury retrograding in aries has people saying the dumbest shit without any thought#buffy summers I love you and you deserved so much better and so much more protection#even from your own fandom#if you hate buffy summers please just block me like get the fuck away from me immediately you monster#rant
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The Sunnydale Herald Newsletter, Tuesday, October 22 - Wednesday, October 23
Veruca : You have a cage? Oz : Don't you? Veruca : Uh, yeah. Has a little wheel with a plastic ball And a cute little bell in it. God! Somebody's domesticated the hell out of you. Oz : It's my choice. I don't wanna hurt anybody. Veruca : Maybe. Or maybe you just don't wanna admit what happened to you. Maybe you just wanna pretend like you're a regular guy. (She walks over to him.) Oz : Well, I am. I'm only a wolf 3 nights a month. Veruca : Or you're a wolf all the time and this human face is just your disguise. You ever think about that, Oz?
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no way is that NITRO..they’re a 35 year-old SYNTH notoriously known for being ECCENTRIC & STUBBORN but there are some people who have seen them being SYMPATHETIC & HONORABLE. if you ask me, they remind me a lot of baffling food combinations, a sterile operating table, and having a name on the tip of your tongue, but that could just be because they’re considered the UNDEAD KNIGHT around town. just keep an eye on them & see if their true colors shine through..
↳ 𝚀𝚄𝙸𝙲𝙺 𝙵𝙰𝙲𝚃𝚂
NAME: Justus Angelus Midwinter NICKNAMES: Nitro DATE OF BIRTH: May 13th (35) HEIGHT: 5'10 AFFILIATION: Vanguard OCCUPATION: Bloodhound in Vanguard/Trainer at Vanguard FACECLAIM: Iwan Rheon
TW: Death, Murder, Violence, Manipulation
↳ 𝙱𝙰𝙲𝙺𝙶𝚁𝙾𝚄𝙽𝙳
❖ Justus Midwinter was a synth crafted with all the traits to make him an all American boy. His father was former military and his mom a school teacher. Overall life was good if uneventful, he was the final puzzle piece to their suburban family. ❖ Which was why it came as such a shock when Mercury was born, a mistake his father had said. Though Justus was quickly attached, all the traits chosen to make him only made him a more loyal and loving brother. ❖ Half the time he was the one taking care of Mercury, even bringing him out and about with his friends despite his parents' protests. As much as it hurt when he enlisted to leave him behind, he wanted to make his parents proud and keep being a good role model for Mercury. ❖ He moved up the ranks, eventually joining a squad that was placed under a different jurisdiction than just the army. A joint contract with some organization called Vanguard. Justus wasn't told much and focused on just keeping his men alive. ❖ Then keeping them alive felt like a death trap, his small squad was made of all synths. With Vanguard scientists working with them, death became a foreign concept. Their bodies repaired only to be sent on another mission not long after with barely any real time to recover. ❖ The mental toll of constant fighting with no end in sight had one of his men turning on them. As was reported back there were no survivors and Justus Midwinter died taking out the threat. ❖ That's where things should have ended, instead Justus woke up in a Vanguard lab. With no memory of any of the previous life he'd had, instead he was given the name Nitro. ❖ One of the first people he met was the CEO’s daughter, Xenon, with a side comment on how he drooled in his sleep. A new life was given to him by the CEO, with a new purpose as a bloodhound. With no other sense of identity than the orders they gave him, he fully believed that Vanguard made the world a better place and was now completely loyal to his new squad. ❖ He even completed his first job without a hitch, killing some couple named Midwinter who had allegedly leaked sensitive Vanguard information. Unknown to him it was a test to see how well his new identity would hold.
↳ 𝙼𝙸𝚂𝙲
• His hair turned white from stress, as far as he knows that's just his hair color. • He does not know Mercury Midwinter is his brother nor would he recognize him if he saw him. • Likes eating same colored food together, like pouring ketchup onto strawberries or ranch onto rice.
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btw, do you already dislike Xander? I'm kinda hoping you're going to start writing rants about how much he sucks lmao, but tbf his worst moments are yet to come. I also hope you'll end up hating another male character that most people love, much to my chagrin.
Alright! No more letting this ask sit. Anon, I hope you're around and doing well because we're finally gonna talk about Xander Harris.
I wanted to answer this at different points during my Buffy journey and now, towards the end of season 5, I have to say that... Xander's fine. I totally get where your hope comes from, my notorious Finn posts and all and though I'll get into aspects of Xander I dislike in a moment, I'm afraid I can't be the manhater you need on this occasion. From what I've seen though he's not that well-loved? In my limited experience anyway. So the Finn Hudson effect doesn't apply in that sense, either.
Where I would be frustrated with Xander in similar ways I am about Finn's ch is that sometimes he is framed in an annoying way. He never gets even just called out for lying to Buffy at the end of season 2 or acting like a major asshole in 3x02. All the Scoobies are coming at Buffy there, sure, but none with such vehemence and in such a self-righteous way. Self-righteous hypocrites really piss me off. Had I answered this at the start of season 3 I probably would have been much harsher on Xander than I'm gonna be now. His Angel hatred was so irrational and not worthy of an "I told you so" upon Angelus' turn and it's irritating how entitled he is to Buffy's decisions. Not to mention, I don't care if him sulking about Buffy's rejection is realistic teen boy behaviour, it's tedious and embarrassing. She made it clear that she was not interested and Xander was such an ass about it. His crush on Buffy was a pain to get through and frankly, I don't think Xander deserved either of the girls he's been with since. Cordelia most definitely not and I think Anya deserves better, too, because she's genuinely devoted whereas it really feels like Xander's with her just because it's convenient for him.
His latest really, really annoying moment was his Riley speech to Buffy but honestly I'm just so glad Riley's gone so I'm gonna swiftly move past that. Whatever, Xander tried helping Buffy and luckily she was too late to act on his advice. What stupid advice, anyway, as if Riley was one in a million. Hon, he was literally the 999,999 in a million.
And I said I wouldn't go hard on the guy, huh? Lmao well that was pretty much the list of my grievances. In general? Xander's... fine. He's not gonna be my favourite Scooby in any scenario, no way, but I think since mid-season 3 he's been a lot more tolerable and even enjoyable on occasion. He does feel sort of useless at times but that's acknowledged and a part of his journey so I appreciate that. I don't fully buy into him being the Heart of the group as that position is something that I hold precious, see Katara in ATLA. And no way Xander can even touch what someone like Katara represents within her group dynamic. But I also see that being the Heart is mostly about courage here, loyalty, and as much as he makes mistakes I gotta give Xander that.
Even in that interpretation I struggle with the guy because a) he does have these icky sexist moments that are just not funny and they're meant to be and b) he's not... that full of heart. I just think pettiness gets in the way too often and, compared to someone like Willow's flaws his are more annoying and in general, more. He's not quite the Nice Guy syndrome because he is general a genuinely good friend to Buffy and the others but I wish he wasn't such a teen boy. Or, if he was, cause ya know they unfortunately do exist, that he was framed just a little more critically. I get that that's too much to ask of Whedon's late 90s feminism but it would make Xander an easier character to vibe with. I mean, I'm guessing there must be a reason I had zero idea about his existence prior to watching the show but had a vague idea of most other Scoobies. I knew so many things about Willow and was aware of chs like Oz, Cordy and Tara, but I was half-expecting Xander to only last a season or two. Because surely, if he was there for the whole show I would have heard people talk about him already.
So, yeah, it might not sound like it because I more so talked about the negatives than positives but I don't hate Xander by any means. He's not frustrating enough to be loathed or ranted about but he's also not nearly engaging enough to be on the level of the other Scoobies. He has his moments, though, and more often than not I find myself enjoying Xander-centric episodes. Soooo... is that anything? I hope I don't disappoint but now that I'm at the end of season 5 maybe you can share more about your Xander thoughts, I'd be happy to listen.
#anon#buffy asks#xander harris#anti xander harris#sort of idk if that's polite to tag#btvs#god i finally got to this ask! sorry anon hope you're well
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Okay, like I previously said Fallout version of Angelus is wild to me.
Btw TW for heavy subjects talked about here.
I like exploring different sides to them all in different AUs and Fallout is no different. Also, like I said in a post any info on them prior to 2023 when it comes to this AU is null and void. All that info is either eliminated or retconned.
Also I'm gonna try and better the tag system for better organization. Kinda got something in mind.
Anyway, I like writing and playing this version of Angelus 'cause it let's me explore a side to Angelus that the Oracle (Oracle is the original btw) version just doesn't have.
Oracle Angelus had a rough start. He suffered every type of abuse and my fucking gods do I mean EVERY TYPE OF ABUSE from as early as 1-year-old up to 13 or 14. Pretty much a little over a decade of nonstop physical, emotional and psychological torture. He did NOT get out of that unscathed. The trauma of it all still clings to him to this day. Had he been human he would've died like at 2, if he would've survived he would've been completely deformed and disfigured. But he's a werewolf so he somehow survived. Physically he has three scares from when his abusers tried to kill him. Two of the scars are from being shot in the chest and the third one is from being stabbed through the heart with a silver dagger. He actually scared which is basically impossible for a born werewolf but because his abusers never let him consume human hearts his immune system never developed. He even got fevers from infections. Anyway, it wasn't a good time for him and because of it a lot of mental problems arouse from it. He has C-PTSD, bipolar disorder, depression, severe anxiety, the abuse exacerbated his ADHD and also caused him to develop a severe eating disorder and it's not some cute and quirky "oh ha ha i'll just pick at this salad i gotta watch my weight ha ha." No, this man legit will starve himself as punishment because if he makes a mistake he thinks he deserves to be punished. He will actually layer on clothes so Jelani doesn't notice any weight loss but Jelani is always on top of that. They constantly check in on him and help him through it. He has some good days, some bad days and some catastrophic days but regardless he tries his best. He does have his moments of unfiltered confidence and times where he's shown he's very sure of himself and shown strength.
That's why I have this appreciation for the AUs because like for example the Fallout one he didn't have a messed up upbringing. Yeah, there's the whole being sold and the transphobic grandmother thing but it didn't affect him. He's cocky as hell, doesn't really take much of anything serious, in party mode almost 24/7, he's loud, explosive, confident, loves to eat, is extroverted, not insecure at all, no mental illnesses, rowdy, little bit selfish, morally gray and ambiguous, an absolute lil shit but with a good heart and more of a leader than a follower. Fallout Angelus is the extreme opposite of Oracle Angelus and it really puts Angelus as a whole into this perspective that I otherwise wouldn't have had a chance to explore this side of him if it weren't for this AU.
I was NOT kidding when I said Fallout Jelani kind of took the role of Oracle Angelus. He was very similar to Angelus but then he was assaulted (I know I put a tw warning but this is not a word I throw around so freely given that it's super charged. Not sure if anyone actually reads any OC posts aside from Arcade but still) and you know, it was a brutal and traumatic event and not even a month later he witnessed his father "die" which made shit far worse and this is post-apocalyptic America. Where in the blue fuck is he gonna find a therapist to work that trauma out? Fallout Jelani is pretty much Oracle Angelus.
And that was covering some aspects. In terms of sexuality he's still very much gay. I think that'll be the only aspect about him that'll never change. In Oracle he was born a male but he's actually intersex (both genitals and half a uterus, it sooooooorta works), on top of that he has a bit of a feminine body. He's very androgynous looking. In Fallout he was born a female and transitioned to male. In Oracle he's strictly a bottom HOWEVER, if Jelani (he's a switch and both subs and doms) asks he will absolutely top him because he feels 100,000% safe and secure with him. In Fallout he's 100% strictly a top while Jelani is 100% strictly a bottom. And he enjoys the fuck out of dominating Jelani.
Honestly this version of him is really fun. Oracle will always be Oracle but these AUs are so fun to explore different sides to all my characters.
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The Buffy Re-watch: S2E19 (part 2)
I Only Have Eyes For You
Dru vision time. However, Spike is getting pretty fed up with Angelus, his expression over watching him, and Dru says it all. He's inching closer and closer to making a deal with Buffy to get rid of him.
Also, Angelus has turned his Claddagh ring round to show he is no longer in love anymore.
Giles is in a flustered state, wanting to contact Jenny.
Buffy sees James and Grace dancing.
Cafeteria full of snakes, good thing Indiana Jones isn't around.
Everyone is getting spooked and harassed by the ghostie.
Not the bees! Well, in this case, wasps, but I just wanted to make that reference.
Is Buffy over identifying with James?
Everyone assuming James would possess a guy and not Buffy, even though he is identifying with and singling her out. Angelus plays Grace's part.
It plays out just as it always does, but with a vampire playing Grace, he survives the gunshot and the fall.
James got his forgiveness, and they got their happy ending.
Angelus feeling violated after being possessed. I guess it would feel like that.
Spike can walk again! Man is just biding his time.
James chose Buffy because of the similarities between her relationship with Angel and his relationship with Grace. Older person/younger person relationship. The older person wants the younger one to have a normal life. Their relationship was doomed from the start, as much as they loved each other, it wouldn't be able to work.
James could only be forgiven under very specific circumstances. It was an act of compassion from Grace that put an end to it. She still loved him but knew their relationship was wrong. She watched his torment of his mistake for decades and finally had the chance to forgive. The shooting itself was an accident, a crime of passion. It can bring out the worst in people.
However, their relationship was still wrong. She was his teacher and he was a high school student.
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OH. Who wants my Angel vs Angelus rant that I've been sitting on?
So. I think that a lot of the writing for the vampire lore in BtVS gets a bit...wishy-washy at best. I think that the writers heavily favored certain characters in regards to vampire lore over others. I also think that, from the standpoint of "people who are not the vampire", it is easy to forget a lot of the things that make this rant important.
However.
Angel and Angelus are two distinctly separate beings. Angel is Liam. As we learn in "Angel" (the season 1 episode of BtVS): "The demon gets your body, but it doesn't get your soul. That's just gone."
So. Yes. Angel and Angelus are distinctly separate entities that just so happen to share a body, and while they do majorly influence each other (Angel would have nothing to atone for without the memories of the atrocities Angelus committed, and Angelus wouldn't hate humanity so much without the memories of what it was like to be human--or even Angel's memories of love and compassion).
It's a terrible dichotomy with the threat of Angelus coming free, especially because the more "good" that Angel does, the worse Angelus wants to be.
But, Angel is not to blame for the things Angelus does, even if he blames himself. He has those memories; he remembers it all as if he was the one who did it. But we know he wasn't, because he doesn't do those things with a soul.
Does Angel still make mistakes? Yes. Absolutely. Angel is flawed. But he tries. And that's what it means to be human. To pick yourself back up and keep trying.
After all, he says it best in "Epiphany".
Angel : Well, I guess I kinda worked it out. If there's no great glorious end to all this, if nothing we do matters... , then all that matters is what we do. 'Cause that's all there is. What we do. Now. Today. I fought for so long, for redemption, for a reward, and finally just to beat the other guy, but I never got it. Kate Lockley : And now you do? Angel : Not all of it. All I wanna do is help. I wanna help because, I don't think people should suffer as they do. Because, if there's no bigger meaning, then the smallest act of kindness is the greatest thing in the world. Kate Lockley : Yikes. It sounds like you've had an epiphany. Angel : I keep saying that, but nobody's listening.
This is who Angel is. And Angelus is the opposite. Angelus revels in pain and suffering and sets out to destroy everything that is remotely human and good, because he hates himself for having that part of him. Angelus is the demon. Angelus is evil.
So...yeah, it's easy to blame Angel for what Angelus does; it's easy to hate him for what Angelus does. But. It's not Angel who does those things. It just fundamentally is an entirely different being.
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Hey love! I just wanted to say that you’re an amazing writer. I have been reading Angelus Mortis over and over again for a year now and never get tired of it. The storyline, the characters, the writing everything is amazing. It doesn’t feel like a fanfiction because of how well it’s written and it’s better than many bestselling published books that I have read. Also the way that all the Naruto characters fit the Greek God roles it’s perfect. Itachi and Shisui are absolutely delicious. Salt is an amazing friend. Levi intrigues me and I really like him a lot as someone who has never watched Attack on Titan (if that’s how it’s called). The affair between Cronus and Nyx is absolutely genius because it makes the storyline even more interesting (I enjoy their scenes more than I like to admit😂 and Seraphina had an amazing CronNyx oneshot which she deleted like Seraphina girl why would you do that to us😭). It leaves you wondering what’s going to happen when the affair gets discovered by everyone. Also something that I have always been curious about,- in Quietus Cronus had a wife called Rhea which he kills both with her sons, does that apply to AM Cronus too🤔? I wonder if Nyx knows about it and what would she think if she knew that Rhea was the only one that Cronus actually loved. And just when you thought the story couldn’t get any better now Angelissa is in the underworld and shit is about go downnnnnnnnn. Honestly even if you take years to update, I will still be waiting no matter what just like I did for Quiteus. But please don’t prioritise anything else before your mental health and don’t rush to finish the story just because you feel the need you have to. One day you will get your inspiration and in the end the wait will be worth the wait. Sending you lots of love 💕 and take care!
PS. Sorry for any grammar mistakes. English is not my first language.
Thank you so, so much!
I'm so glad you enjoyed AM so much, it really is our little pet project and I love it too. (Also your English is amazing what are you apologizing for, GURL)
Imma go out on a limb here and say Cronus' backstory is the same in AM, regarding Rhea etc. Nyx defo knows about it but she deludes herself into thinking that Cronus only used Rhea as a means to an end and never really loved her. Which is incredibly ironic. Pot, kettle... something like that.
Thank you for waiting and believing in me! I hope you will enjoy the story going forward as well ❤️
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100% agree on eliminating Cangel, especially seeing as the entire reason Angel moved to LA was so that he wouldn't risk turning into Angelus again because of his love for Buffy. Cangel existing kinda makes the reason he left a lot weaker retroactively, since if he's in love with Cordelia it just becomes the same Angelus issue all over again but this time he doesn't leave.
Would definitely have wanted to see Angel as a dad raising Connor. I'll admit that even though I adamantly dislike Cangel, that one scene where they fell asleep on either side of Baby Connor was adorable. But instead of that we get... Season 4, with Jasmine!Cordelia and Cordelia's character assassination (and eventual death in S5) as you've already discussed. It's also the season where pretty much nobody but angsty teen Connor is given agency, and what does he do with it? Makes the worst decisions, jumps to conclusions, and never learns from his mistakes.
... oops that turned in to a bit of a S4/Connor hate rant-- no shade to anyone who does enjoy them, it doesn't affect me just as my likes shouldn't affect you. No shade to Connor's actor either, he was just working with what he was given and the writing really screwed him over.
#16 for BtVS and AtS! :)
16. If you could change anything in the show, what would you change?
In BtVS, I’d change so many things. Honestly. It’s hard to choose just one.
I’d kill Spike off in season 3 or 4, but that wouldn’t make the show considerably better, because there are a lot more flaws to it. Seasons 6 and 7 would be much better probably, but still… Killing Spike is like not having The First as a Big Bad, albeit that’s much less significant…
I want to change something that would alter, consistently, the show for the best. I guess I’d just want the writers not to lose the essence of the show? It’s a lame answer, but the show worked better when it was campy, when the villains were local but impactful, when the Scoobies were cohesive, when friendships were more important than romances, etc. I guess I’d want the show to be creative and interesting without changing the dimension of its universe. Keep it small, simple.
As for AtS, I’d eliminate Cangel, because it ruined season 3 and because it made the writers take Angel and Cordelia’s characters in a terrible direction. Season 3 could’ve been more about Angel as a father: about how the happiness of having a child doesn’t eliminate your own issues (which is something season 4 touched on, but Angel in season 3 was too giddy), and how Connor would have change his future. Angel having a kid is as much of a big deal as dating Buffy, but the show never truly acknowledges the ramifications of Angel raising a human child until they avoid that with the kidnapping and the mind wipe. It was cheap of them, because that could’ve been a real story and something to tie Angel in season 3 with his overall redemption arc. Angel in season 3 is mostly a happy and willing love interest, and Cordelia was set up as a saint. Due to that, season 3 feels disjointed from the other seasons in terms of Angel’s bigger arc of redemption and existentialism, because, really, how is a kid not a reason to go through a small existential crisis?
Without Cangel, season 4 would have to incorporate Jasmine without Cordelia - a bonus - because Jasmine!Cordelia was terrible, and season 5 would perhaps suffer less from Cordelia’s absence after her romantic role in Angel’s life. If seasons 1 to 4 were more connected, then maybe season 5 could’ve been a smoother transition too.
Dunno, I need sleep. Thanks for the answer! Not my best reply :)
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I'm very curious about your take on Giles' glasses. After season 2 he stops wearing the round ones. And at first I thought that maybe he had to get new ones simply because Angelus broke them but then again they didn't seem broken to me in the last scene where Giles talks with the scoobies about Buffy. And then in wishverse we see him wearing the round glasses again. That has to mean something.
i am absolutely certain that i have talked about this in years past but i could not find the post (no shade to you btw i have talked about 90 different things in the last two weeks alone and i totally understand how newcomers to the celia soapbox are not gonna be able to find Specific Posts from 2017 or something) so i am very very down to make it in DETAIL !!! <3
so giles's glasses are a microcosm of his larger fashion shift in season three -- symbolic of his movement towards Watcher as his only important identifier. the clothing he's wearing in seasons one and two give off more of a "rumpled professor" kind of look -- there's a lot of tweed and formality, but we almost never see him without a soft sweater vest, and when it's missing there's usually just a shirt and tie (sometimes suspenders iirc).
season three, though, introduces not only giles's new glasses, but an entirely new fashion element: button-up waistcoats that almost always match his jackets.
like just look at that shift! it's incredibly subtle -- still very much in line with most of giles's sartorial choices thus far, just a TINY bit more rigid. but do you know who else we see wearing a button-up waistcoat?
TRAVERS.
also, giles's fashion shift happens after the season finale -- and you know what happens there?
JENNY.
this is a moment where giles fails utterly as a watcher without any hesitation on his part! he has held out against all forms of torture for hours, but the second he is tricked into seeing jenny, he gives up the entire world without a moment's hesitation. it is an understandable and sympathetic mistake for a lover to make, but from day one of this show it's been textual that someone with a supernatural responsibility is always supposed to put that responsibility first. giles spends the entirety of season two trying to find a way to put jenny first without jeopardizing the integrity of his destiny, and the season finale brings his struggle to its natural conclusion: even the act of wanting to put jenny first is more than a watcher is supposed to allow himself. from a purely tactical perspective, giles's love for jenny (who in turn has always represented the life he wants outside his destiny) is an irresponsible liability.
so when giles dons an outfit that's much more old-fashioned --button-up waistcoat, austere-looking wire-rimmed glasses -- he is very deliberately choosing to project the image of a watcher like travers. he is cloaking his heartbreak in tradition because the only way that he knows how to move forward is through repression and self-flagellation. he is saying -- i am not human. i do not love. i am focused only on the mission and this is going to be the only thing in my life for the rest of my life.
(and this is supported by him wearing those old, round glasses in the wish! whether or not he's met and lost jenny, he has been given no reason to fully inhabit the watcher identity -- he does not see himself as a watcher.)
#asks#anonymous#meta#rupert giles#and of course then he gets fired in season three#and spends season four in a tailspin#because he wanted to make his whole identity Watcher but that isn't possible when he got himself FIRED#tl;dr giles .... hurts to think about
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spike, angel, buffy & romanticism: part 4
part 1: “When you kiss me I want to die”: Angel and the high school seasons
part 2: “Love isn’t brains, children”: Enter Spike as the id
part 3: “Something effulgent”: Season five and the construction of Spike the romantic
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“But I can’t fool myself. Or Spike, for some reason.”: Buffy and Spike as a blended self
Before I get into seasons six and seven, it’s worth asking: why would the show do all of this? Why would it spend all of this time developing a supporting villain and joke id character? Why would it give him a romantic arc? I see people say that the writers only gave Spike these storylines because he was popular or they wanted to keep him around, but even that being the case, there was no need to give him the specific arc that they did. It’s more than possible to read meaning into the story that they chose from the array of possible options.
Here is the thing about the id. It’s not actually something separate from you. It’s not a ravenous monster you can blame your weaknesses on while remaining pure and dignified. The id is part of you. The immediate and enduring appeal of Spike is, I suspect, strongly influenced by the fact that the things the id wants are so very human and sympathetic. His foibles and mistakes are often painfully familiar, even exaggerated through vampirism as they are. In fact, it’s precisely because Spike is allowed to show a full range of reactions to love, because the writing is under less pressure for him to do the “right” or dignified thing, that he can at times be compelling in ways other characters can’t. If Spike just did nasty things, his appeal wouldn’t be much more complicated than the appeal of Angelus, who people tend to like as a villain or storyline rather than as a relatable character. But Spike doesn’t want to dismember nuns or construct elaborate murder tableaux. He wants familiar things like love, identity and meaning, even if the ways he goes about getting them can reflect people’s worst impulses.
Which brings us to Buffy, and Buffy’s story about growing up. Buffy is Buffy’s show, which means that every writing choice tends to revolve around her arc in one way or another. And this goes for Spike’s storyline even more than most. In the final three seasons of the show, the writing finally engages with how inextricable the id--and all of its impulsive, inarticulate romantic desires--really is from a person’s self. So instead of keeping Spike at a comfortable distance, both Buffy and the writing begin to take him seriously. They begin to invite him in.
Starting in season five, it’s telling how frequently Buffy herself projects on Spike, rather than just the writing setting them up as mirrors. She tells him that he’s the “only one strong enough” to protect her family, and later assigns Dawn specifically to his protection. In “Spiral” she describes him as “the only one besides me that has any chance of protecting Dawn.” This is a very intimate role that she otherwise only assigns to herself (and which is not really based on pure practicality, considering that she’ll later describe Willow as her “big gun”--yet never gives Willow the task of protecting Dawn). She tells him that he cannot love, which is the thing she fears most about herself. Her protests that Spike is a vampire, and thus cannot express or want human things like love, mirror her lamentations that as the Slayer, she cannot have a normal life.
From the Gilliland Gothic double essay:
More than any of her other lovers, Buffy and Spike overlap one another so often that at times their character arcs become nearly indistinguishable. With Angel, Buffy traveled a parallel path in attempting to master self-control. With Riley, her journey ultimately took her in the opposite direction. With Spike, Buffy’s journey is most closely shadowed, in that her interactions with him in many ways can be seen as metaphors for her feelings about herself.
So now Spike is multiple things. On the one hand, he’s the soulless id he’s been since season two. His vampiric behavior represents a morally uninhibited way of reacting to romantic frustrations, among other things. But on the other hand, his vampirism now also marks him as like Buffy, not merely her opposite.* Nor is he only her mirror in the realm of romantic love. The part of him that is a vampire is the part of him that is supernatural (ie, Romantically larger-than-life), that sets him apart from regular people, and dictates how he can and cannot behave. Just like Buffy’s slayerness. His vampirism is what makes him capable of protecting Dawn, while also making him (supposedly, according to Buffy) incapable of human feeling--again, just like Buffy’s slayerness. Instead of Buffy’s Slayer side being aligned with Angelus, who was an unmitigated evil, it becomes aligned with Spike, who is something more complicated.
*(Though it must be noted that this was a process that began in season four, with the show aligning Spike with the Scoobies by making him a victim of the Initiative. Spike being supernatural suddenly marks him as non-normative, just like the Scoobies, in contrast to the institutional conformity that the Initiative represents. The evolution towards treating the Romantic supernatural as something positive and associated with identity plays a key role in transitioning the show to the more complicated attitudes of the last three seasons.)
This shift in the show’s attitudes towards the id affects how Spike is used. In “Blood Ties” for example, Spike assists Dawn in breaking into the Magic Shop and in “Forever” he helps Dawn resurrect her and Buffy’s mother. In both cases, Spike could be read as embodying impulsive behavior that Buffy is supposed to be better than. Yet both cases specifically involve Spike helping Dawn, who is repeatedly portrayed as Buffy’s human side. As Buffy says in “The Gift”: “[Dawn]’s more than [my sister]. She’s me. The monks made her out of me. [...] Dawn is a part of me. The only part that I--”. In other words, Buffy’s id becomes closely tied to her humanity, even going so far as to become its safeguard. “Blood Ties” ends with Buffy affirming her connection to Dawn, which Spike’s rule-breaking directly enabled, and “Forever” ends with Buffy acknowledging how desperately she wants her mother back too, and becoming closer to Dawn as a result. (Compare to “Lovers Walk”, where Buffy acknowledging her id results in her breaking away from Angel, not drawing closer to anyone). Or in “Intervention”, Spike building the Buffybot directly parallels Buffy’s own anxieties about what she thinks she should be. She thinks she’s losing her ability to love, and that effusive fakery is her only recourse (as she said in “I Was Made to Love You”: “Maybe I could change. [...] I could spend less time slaying, I could laugh at his jokes. I mean men like that right? The joke laughing at?”), a fear that even has some merit, given that her friends cannot tell her and the bot apart. Instead of Buffy and Spike having separate arcs in the episode, Spike learning the difference between real and fake dovetails with Buffy’s own relationship to her realness and fakeness. It turns out that neither of them want a bot version of Buffy. They want real emotion, things like sacrifice and heartfelt gratitude. If even Buffy’s id would let itself be killed for Dawn, then maybe she has nothing to fear from herself. Maybe there is some beauty in the emotional part of her nature that she thinks she must repress.
In other words, part of the writing (and Buffy) fully engaging with romanticism and the id, means engaging with the ways they can be bad and good. There’s this weird thing that happens with Spike as soon as he falls in love with Buffy, where suddenly his actions are more uncomfortable, and to many, off-putting, because their object is Buffy (instead of another vampire like Harmony or Drusilla, who either enjoy the same vampiric things he does, or the audience might be inclined to see as a moral nonentity regardless). His comic id quality becomes somewhat darker and more serious, almost like the way Angel’s early season two darkness becomes more serious after he loses his soul. But at the same time, Spike’s actions are also more intriguing, sympathetic, and even noble...because their object is Buffy. It makes no sense that a soulless vampire should not only fall in love with the Slayer, but genuinely attempt to transform himself into someone worthy of her love. And yet that’s exactly what Buffy inspires him to do. By loving Buffy Spike’s dual nature, and the dual nature of his romanticism, is thrown into relief: it’s something that can be selfish and creepy, yes, but also something that hints at the idea that real romanticism does exist. Something worth feeling romantically about does exist. Thus the writing can at once criticize, say, the way the chivalric mindset conflates love and suffering, while also suggesting that there are kinds of love it’s worth being transformed by. (Meanwhile, Spike’s fumbling bewilderment over how to love Buffy, and what the rules of loving people correctly even are, creates a human middle ground between monstrousness and heroism). By leaning into the way that Buffy and Spike have been used as mirrors for three seasons, and introducing the mythology-bending idea of Spike being in love with Buffy, the writing is able to fully engage with this complicated, contradictory nature of love and romance.
All of which is to say. Spike becomes a potential love interest, and is given a convoluted inner conflict between monstrousness, humanity and heroism, in precisely the season in which Buffy begins to reckon with her own inner conflict between her darker impulses, her human reality, and her supernatural role. It’s no coincidence that season five opens with Dracula, an icon of romantic vampire mythology, tempting Buffy with darkness and promising her insight into her nature. Or that a vampire kidnaps Dawn--again, her human half--in the next episode. Or that the season’s antagonist is a super-strong blonde woman who wants to destroy Dawn instead of protect her. Or that she says goodbye to Riley, the boyfriend who embodied her hopes for a more normative way of being (notice how Riley is progressively destabilized by everything non-normative about Buffy’s life, and provokes those anxieties Buffy expresses in “I Was Made to Love You”). Over and over in season five, Buffy fears that her Slayer half is cold, destructive, and otherwise dangerous. That these Romantic things like gods and vampires have it in for Buffy’s vulnerable humanity. Yet Buffy’s vampire id simultaneously gives lie to these fears by proving itself capable of heroism and genuine human feeling.
In other words, Spike becomes a potential love interest in a season that treats the Romantic--ie the grand and mythical--as something more than just an attractive lie to be disabused of. Rather, the question that season five seems to posit to me, and which will not be fully answered until the end of season seven, is this: once you do clear away the attractive lies, once you accept the hard realities, once you’ve seen the darkest underbellies, what are the things that are left that are truly grand and beautiful? What are the stories that are really worth telling, and the heroes that are really worth having?
And the show asks and answers these questions on both a very personal level, and a more meta, systemic level. On the personal level, Buffy and Spike are forced to confront their illusions not just about the world, but about themselves. They are made to ask themselves what constitutes a heroic role or a demonic weakness, versus basic, unromantic humanity. And on the meta level, the show asks questions about our expectations for how both love stories and chosen hero stories are supposed to go.
part 5: “Everything used to be so clear”: Season six and the agony of the real
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So wrong it’s right
Part 2 // Part 3
Pairing: Angel x vamp!reader
Request: (Sorry if I make a mistake, English is my second language) Will you make a story with a somewhat villain reader (but shes not exactly evil) that keeps helping Angel out because she likes him and in the start he wont trust her but one day they kiss and Angel becomes confused about how he feels? I hope that makes sense. If I didn’t explain it well please don't feel you need to write it you can ignore this.
Requested by: Anon
Warning: Violence/fighting. Swearing.
A/N: This is the kind of fic I LOVE to write. I enjoyed myself with this one !! 💜
You weren’t well-liked in LA. The ‘good guys’ hated you, trying to stake you at any second and the ‘bad guys’ despised you. Both felt this for the way that you made decisions based on how you felt. No allegiance to good or evil. No atonement or evil plotting. You served neither the powers or dark forces. This was a fluid and extremely ambiguous way to live, which brought suspicion with you wherever you went. But you were nothing if not authentic to your beliefs. You just weren’t really sure what those beliefs were yet.
In any case, you didn’t much care for world domination nor did you hang out in particularly damp underground hovels that you wouldn’t even bury your dog in, let alone spend precious years of your un-life.
LA had a certain draw to you, it was a hub. A beating heart of life that helped you thrive in a way you had only dreamed of when you really were alive. But most importantly, it wasn’t a backwater little town. The type that always seemed to harbour Hellmouths. They seemed a little boring to you anyway.
Yeah, it holds all the supernatural power hotspots you could wish for, but at what cost? Everyone knew everyone’s business and there was such a large amount of demons concentrated in one area it was hard to navigate without bumping into several ex-lovers. Not to mention there was a higher chance of a Slayer on your back.
Now, just because you weren’t ‘evil’, that wasn’t to say you lived in the light. For one, you couldn’t. You would die… again. But also, you weren’t exactly chafing at the bit to do as the powers said. They couldn’t simultaneously damn you to hell when you got dusted whilst enticing you with some long-winded and ultimately unnecessary prophecy that gave you the one thing you were scared of. Hope.
You didn’t have a soul, and you didn’t care for gaining one. Not through a curse and even less through fighting for one yourself. This is why one vampire didn’t like you. He didn’t trust you and definitely never cut you a break.
The fact was, he barely looked your way. Unless you were stood in his path. And you had, a few times. He was convinced you had some ulterior motive but had little time for you until you turned into a bigger threat.
That was, up until the last few months. You had started to catch his attention more and more. You had been fighting, again. In the back room of some seedy bar. Trading blows, neither of you holding back. The real threat long since dusted. It was just gone three in the morning, a time you liked to be home. Just in case of a freak early sunrise (you had heard horrible things of whole towns of vampires wiped out suddenly).
You were fighting, hard. He never left it. He just couldn’t walk away. You were after the same stupid vampire. Yes, you had been after him because he owed you a large sum of money and around five Siamese cats, but the end was the same. You twisted from his firm grasp, throwing him over your head. He landed but didn’t stay down. He ran at you, pushing you back and slamming you against the door. Almost through it. He grabbed a stake and flipped it up in the air before expertly catching it, looking back in your eyes.
There was almost a flicker of danger. A flicker of all the stories you had heard of Angelus. There was something there, some kind of feeling and it got you excited. Up until this point, his face had been pretty unmoving every time you saw him. The stake dug into your chest, directly over your unbeating heart. You couldn’t help but enjoy the way his eyes scanned your face. Moving from your lips to your eyes and back again. He was so close you could just lean in and… no. Eye on the prize, you tell yourself. You would settle for a quip charged with at least a little sexual tension. On your end, at least.
“You gonna keep waving that thing around or are you going to actually do something with it?” You bite, breathing heavily a smile on your face. You didn’t need to breathe but it was still a habit.
“Why’re you here, huh? Why are you always around when something bad happens?”
“I could ask you the same thing. Now I’m never getting those fucking Siamese” You muttered as he scowled at you. You were going to threaten him one more time before staking him. He rolled his eyes, you were worse than spike. At least he had a soul. Wanted one. You were content with your lot and it bugged him to no end.
“You know, I think I might enjoy this” Angel said stoically.
“Watch out, you don’t want to get too happy” You teased with a smile, everyone knew about Angel – word travels fast even here, “Or maybe you do. You might be more fun, to be honest”
These was the last words he expected to hear from you, you were younger than him by a mile. He was used to vampires pretty easily going down. He moved his arm back, directing the wooden stake straight for your heart. In the same second, you changed into your vamp face and propelled your head forwards. Your hand twisted his wrist trying to knock the stake from his hand as you propelled your ridged forehead towards him. Headbutting him with all of your strength.
The stake pierced your skin, but luckily (or unluckily it still hurt like anything) it was stabbed into your left arm which made you yelp. You yelped almost as much as Angel in his surprise as his nose started to bleed. It was enough to stun him, letting you run off with the stake still sticking out of your arm as you took a short cut to your destination.
Angel walked back to the hotel slowly, pinching his nose and wiping the blood on his sleeve. He took the long route back, not wanting to have to tell the others that he had lost in a fight with a vampire who was probably half his age. When he returned Cordelia rushed over to him, helping him to sit down. The entire team was there, waiting up for him. Fantastic, now he would have to tell them.
“Oh, uh, Angel?” Fred asked softly, “This was left for you – on your desk”
He turned and there it was. The stake that had been embedded in your arm the last he saw you. You must have travelled fast to get there before he did. He took it as an act of aggression, especially when he read the note attached.
‘Until we meet again, sweet Angel’
“Is this your slayer friend?” Fred asked, looking down at the floor. She had taken somewhat of a shine to Angel and may have been a little jealous. She had just learned what a slayer was.
“She’s a little more dramatic, a little less with the subtle” Cordelia stated, knowing for sure that the person that brought it was not Buffy. Not at all.
“Yes, I recall the young woman is about as subtle as a brick” Wes chuckled softly, reminiscing over his brief stint as a watcher.
“No. it wasn’t her” Angel confirmed, turning and scowling, “Wes, I need everything you can find on a vamp. Name’s y/n”
“Y/n? Are you sure it is wise to, um, shake the hornets nest so to speak. They’ve done little to actively harm-” Wesley said quickly. A slightly sheepish look on his face. You had met him and helped him out several times. You often crossed paths late night at the occult book store. You weren’t afraid of losing your credibility over a little light reading.
Your intelligence was often what gave you the upper hand over many demons you came up against. Wesley was strangely fond of you, although he knew from word on the street you could be mean if something was in the way of what you wanted. He was pleasant enough although spending too long with him gave you an Englishman-induced headache. He does prattle on so. And, that phrase had been unfortunately transferred into your brain from listening to him for too long.
“Apart from, that they’re a vampire who brutally kills to eat and always seems to be in every bad situation we’ve been in recently” Angel snapped, “I want everything. By tomorrow night”
“What are you going to do?”
“Kill them”
It had been several more months and Angel had seen you several times in that period. He had yet to make good on his promise. The tension mounted, peaking every time you became close. Your back and forth riling you up, making you begin to pine for his attention.
He had noted that you had common goals, evil tended to get mowed down in your wake. Which, he couldn’t exactly complain about except that your personality was simultaneously infuriating and intriguing.
But he maintained that he didn’t like you. The way you danced through life, with no guilt. Very little self-reflection. You wouldn’t join him and that was enough, in his eyes for you to be against him.
This evening finds you on the hunt for a backstreet dealer, one that could find you an item that was particularly hard to find. Especially now Angel had a snitch on the inside, the deliveries were starting to slow. Dust couldn’t drive trucks.
You arrived at the meeting place, a dingy alleyway despite you specifically asking to meet somewhere that didn’t smell like something had died there. You had a very sensitive sense of smell.
“You got the stuff?” You asked, gesturing with your head for the demon to open the briefcase. But he snatched it from your grasp and the boss stepped from the shadows. This meant something more sinister.
“You helped him. We saw you” The scaly man with an impressively tailored suit accused.
“What?”
“Angel” He confirmed. Bad things happened to people who didn’t side with the boss. You knew this.
“I don’t pick allegiances, I told you. I’m just me” You assured them, eyes on the briefcase.
“You’re with us or you’re with him. Choose.”
“Fine.” You shrugged, the man nodded approvingly. It had been easier than he thought.
“Good, glad that you’re-” You spun into a kick, hitting his jaw which made him shut up. You hated people who gave you an ultimatum. You, for this very moment only, were on Angel’s side. Fists flying, feet connecting with hard bodies. You fought against them, hard.
More of them started to turn up. As if there had been a call. They started to surround you. You were strong, but not that strong. Your un-life flashed before your eyes. There was so much you had left to do. I mean, you had never even been to a virgin sacrifice. Never properly feasted on St Vigeous. You hadn’t even found your anti-soulmate.
You were almost ready to give up. And then he turned up. Your guardian angel.
Angel assessed the fight, realising you had been caught up. Not realising why it broke out. You fought beside each other, but traded insults with your ally. You found yourself waiting for these interactions with him. It made you smirk. This was the way you flirted.
You enjoyed this back and forth. He was starting to make you feel alive again. Begin to… hope.
The fight was finished and now all you both were was surrounded by dust. You took a breath. In name, not in action, recovering from the fight.
But he grabbed you by your shoulders, you had taken your guard down. He slammed you into the brick wall. The contact almost made you shiver as you smiled wide. You opened your mouth to speak, he was expecting it and spoke first.
“Don’t” He warned, frustrated at the way your eyes danced despite his threat.
“I’ve been waiting for this for months” You smirked, leaning closer to his face. There was barely an inch between you.
“Huh. Your death?”
“We’re already dead, baby, I’m looking more for the spice of life” You teased before leaning in and finally catching your lips with his. This had been all you had been thinking since you had first met him. The tension had reached its crescendo and you had to act.
It was an urgent kiss, you were willing him to reciprocate. His action beforehand made the adrenaline pump around your body harder. Want him more. There was danger harboured deep below the soul he cared for so deeply and it called to you like a moth to a flame.
You wanted him. You enjoyed every side you had seen so far. You didn’t understand why he was so reluctant to admit the tension in the air when you were around each other.
His lips didn’t move at first for those agonising moments. And then they did. All at once. His lips moving and fiery against yours, now fighting you for dominance. You tasted so good to him. A hand gripping your upper arm tightly with the other sliding up the curvature of your neck.
You slid your hands between the fabric of his shirt and his leather jacket, grasping at him. Your fingers snaked around him, exploring unchartered territory. He felt so good, you wanted him closer.
You found yourself almost preferring the feel of this more amiable touch to the harsh blows you had exchanged previously. He pressed you further into the wall, wanting more.
But all too quickly, his lips started to falter and you felt him start to pull away. He started to think too much into it. Comprehending the implications. You felt too good to him. You were a distraction, a sinful figure that strayed him from the power’s path. You almost whined as he pulled himself from where he had been pressed flush against you. He had to fight himself to remove his hands from you.
Your hands slid sadly from where they had been exploring his lean form. You felt yourself pouting slightly, which is a feat when you have fangs like you did.
His face had changed during your kiss, as had yours. Your vampire forms released as the tension did. Your more animalistic forms finding each other so appealing. The kiss a revelation, in some sense a curse. But again, he was used to that.
He pulled back, his face the picture of shock. It was the most emotion he had allowed you to see. So many contradictory emotions flashing behind his eyes. It had felt wrong, but oh so right to kiss you that way. He wanted more. He wanted to get as far away from you as possible.
You watched him in his turmoil, not able to hide the way you enjoyed seeing his face this way. You reached with your hand to trail along the distinctive bumps of his forehead. You couldn’t help it, you had suddenly begun to soften for him. Against your will. You wanted him to want you deeper than you had realised.
He realised that his vampire face was showing. He winced away from you, and you scanned over his face. He switched back immediately. Masking it.
He was ashamed. You frowned, your own vamp face still there. You embraced all that you were. You scanned his face, trying to show him that he could be himself with you. But he didn’t read that from your face.
He stepped back, all contact with him now gone. His eyes still trapped in yours for a moment. Your back was still pressed against the rough brick, your arm still outstretched for him.
But he just ran, jacket whipping around him as he kicked up his dust on way out of the alleyway. As if a magician through a puff of smoke, he was gone.
You eventually moved yourself from the wall, leaning to take the briefcase. You shrugged, dusting it off from the ash that had been left from the fight.
You walked slowly with your items, thoughts beginning to spin. Finding yourself lacking something deep inside that you had not realised you had been missing for so long.
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