#but listing those as actual notps just seems like a cop outs

[piperslovebot]

I'm a huge shipper and t90s to me is what tsc is to sara (had to give her a shoutout!). Everyone just meshes so well and they have so much chemistry (platonic, romantic, familial, etc.)

[thelightofthingshopedfor]

Okay so this a rant lol. There is something I’ve seen in pretty much every fandom I’ve ever been in but sylki antis really do excel in it. Basically there’s this type of anti that doesn’t outright send hate to shippers. Sometimes they even say they want people to ship whatever they want. And it’s all to make it seem like they are mature and fair- compared to sylki shippers, who are aggressive little kids who can’t behave. They won’t say it like that but they definitely want others to see it this way. One example of that is a loki fan account on instagram that made a post telling their followers that they will start putting a sylki/sylvie tw everytime it/she shows up on their page. Their reason is the same old one-sylki is fluidphobic, transphobic and that is making some fans uncomfortable. And judging only by that, the account looks good, like they are thinking of the wellness of their followers. Nevermind that they were already expressing open dislike for both sylvie and sylki since way before this tw thing. Or that they openly ship l0kius. They also won’t listen if someone comes to them and explains why sylki isn’t phobic. Even if the person is gerdenfluid themself. If people say they are uncomfortable then the trigger warning is justifiable (unless if you say that m0bius being the equivalent to a cop and loki being his prisoner makes l0kius uncomfortable for you- that doesn’t warrant a tw). Another common thing is the “sylki dni” bios. Which would be fine if sylkis weren’t listed with terfs, map/pedophiles and others. Bonus points if it’s accompanied by “I’m a victim of x abuse” or “it’s okay if you ship it but please don’t follow me bc sylki reminds me of *huge list of traumas*”. They will say they respect it and then point out all the moral fallacies they believe sylki represents. It’s obvious they want sylkis to look abhorrent. It’s not even required that sylkis interact with them for them to sell this image of general awfulness. Even though they can “respect peoples rights to ship w/e they want” they will still arbitrarily apply moral values to ships so that theirs will always be superior. This whole calm, put together, mature stance is very deliberate bc it creates this image that they are the rational ones in this debate. It adds a sense of credibility to their argument while feeding people the idea that sylkis (or whichever shippers they are against) are gross and therefore worthy of humiliation. And of course, since sylkis are so bad then their arguments shouldn’t be taken seriously- we become simultaneously dangers to the fandom and children that can’t behave.

oof. I haven't seen this type of behavior specifically--everything I've personally seen has been more blatant--but yeah, that...really doesn't surprise me. honestly, I don't think I would ship Sylki as much as I do if not for the fact that I got pissed at Sylki antis early, and I kind of went "I actually prefer it as a platonic relationship but if people are going to get super gross about the ship in general, Sylki shippers, and Sylvie as a character, then I'm going to ship it out of sheer spite"...and then that pretty quickly turned into genuinely liking the ship and not only shipping it out of spite, but still. this type of thing is also why Lokius rapidly turned into something of a notp for me, too--because sure, not all Sylki antis are Lokius shippers, but I'd bet money that's where most of them are coming from.

honestly the thing about this that seems the most wild to me is--it's a canon ship. obviously that doesn't obligate people to like or ship Sylki, but--it's canon! people don't usually react with this level of vitriol and moral outrage to canon ships, do they? on the other hand maybe they do and I've just avoided those fandoms, but it seems bizarre to me that people are getting so bent out of shape about a thing that officially happened, in actual canon, onscreen, to the point of putting "Sylkis DNI" and shit like that in their headers and actually harassing people for liking something "problematic", when I would imagine the vast majority of viewers had no problem with it.

...no, wait, I take that back, I just recently saw a Twitter thread with screencaps of a Tumblr post where someone was very sincerely arguing that the problematic nature of something in Steven Universe was a bigger problem than the actual real-life fraud this person had committed, so...I guess I really shouldn't be surprised by anything antis do