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its everyone's favourite spider who has never done anything wrong in her after life ever
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when edwin does the little curled hand gesture parted lips looking up through eyelashes thing i'm really not surprised the cat king and monty went that insane over him
#dbd#edwin payne#like who wouldnt??#i need to hold him in my hand gently#idk where to find a screenshot of this but its one of the images that shows up when u preview the show on netflix
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Thinking about Edwin telling Charles “you have to experience Hell to really see what’s here”.
Because… at what point has Charles officially “experienced Hell”? I think the consensus is that seeing the horror that was Edwin’s existence for so long was what allowed Charles to see the damned souls on his way out of Hell, but like… well, Edwin is technically a damned soul, too. So why could he see him immediately? Why could he see Edwin curled up and bleeding, see the Demon Spider Made of Babydoll Heads grab him and pull him down the hallways, see the pile of dead Edwins?
There are a couple different reasons I can think of off the top of my head. The first is that Edwin is only technically a damned soul— Charles can see him for the same reason he could see Maxine on the stairs. They’re both condemned to Hell, but not in the same way the souls in Limbo or Lust or Gluttony or, presumably, any of the other layers are. They’re not completely lost to it.
Another is that… well, it’s Edwin. It’s Charles and Edwin. He’s known him for decades— weird Hell rules aren’t going to make Edwin invisible to him (something something Charles saw Edwin as a ghost while he was still alive, even if only barely alive. Something something Charles has always been able to figuratively see Edwin, been able to understand him)
My last theory is that just seeing the Dollhouse in all its horrific glory, knowing it’s the end/beginning of Edwin’s map, and thus the place where Edwin was tortured for decades, could have easily been enough to count as experiencing Hell. On top of that, he’s looking at Edwin’s map of the Dollhouse. Kate Whyte Studio did an amazing job of creating the map for Edwin’s notebook, complete with little notes all over it— “not safe” “danger” “tired” “lost” “bad” “fuck” “no” “don’t go here” “trapped” “dead end” and the two that I think would fuck with Charles the most, “so lonely” and “no help”.
Yeah. I think that would do it.

Also edited image under the cut where I’ve circled the notes mentioned so you don’t have to go note hunting like I did

#also side note but I love the notes on the lower image ‘hate this door’ and ‘hate this gate’#Dead Boy Detectives#DBDA#Dead Boy Detective Agency#Charles Rowland#Edwin Payne#reference#(for myself lol)#my post#meta
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FINALLY finished watching Dawko's entire playthrough, so here come the screenshots! (SPOILERS GALORE, COMPLETELY OUT OF ORDER)
So... his name isn't Music Man, or Maestro Man, or even Musicbox Man. His name... is Big Top. I was waaaaaaaaaaay off.
This happy birthday poster of that weird dog character Edwin made. The art style is reminiscent of Hanna-Barbera cartoons; he looks like Doggy Daddy!
Yes, Edwin Murray made Candy Cadet. Holy crap, that robot is HELLA old! He's older than Freddy Fazbear!! And yet he still outlived William Afton. I fucking love Candy Cadet.
Captain Springlock, a springlock animatronic suit character. Guess who's in his crew?
Foxy the Pirate! Apparently, I was wrong about Roxy pre-dating him. They're the same age! He's called Puppet Foxy here. Foxy is Captain Springlock's first mate. They have a bunch of other puppets as crew members, including Kit the fox kit, Bawson the Badger, Renard the cook, and Puppet Roxy.
Just a random character. This is the most depressed caterpillar I have ever seen. Is he sad because he'll never be a butterfly?
The Clean-O-Vac! Gosh, it's adorable!!
David's ball. The one that got him killed. He got it as a present for his second birthday.
A cut-out of Deadeye Roxy! I LOVE HER.
A ticket book for Fall Fest.
A Lally's Lollies poster, plus a closeup that shows Fazbear Entertainment has a food brand! Fazbear Foods. How scary...
Mrs. Helpful, who is voiced by Fiona Murray. Apparently, she says "Have a wonder-iffic day" as a catchphrase. This has to be where "Have a Faz-eriffic day" came from. GROSS! Fazbear Entertainment ruined something wholesome, like always.
A poster for Fredbear's Singin' Show, and a record of music from that show.
This is the operating system for the computer terminals in the manor. H.E.L.P.E.R. is short for "Human Education and Language Protocol Element Router".
Jest cereal and its mascot. Apparently the prizes inside were made by Edwin himself... too bad all of his inventions are faulty as hell. Apparently, one customer complained because a hand buzzer paralyzed their dog. Ouch...
I've hit my image limit, so another post is coming.
#fnaf#fnaf spoilers#fnaf secret of the mimic#sotm spoilers#fnaf sotm#secret of the mimic#sotm#screenshots#major spoilers#spoilers#fnaf big top#candy cadet#captain springlock#puppet foxy#puppet roxy#fnaf kit#fnaf bawson#fnaf renard#carter caterpillar#fnaf clean-o-vac#david murray#deadeye roxy#fnaf fall fest#lally's lollies#mrs helpful#fredbear#fredbear's singin show#jest cereal#fnaf helper#image heavy
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and I'd give up forever to touch you 2/2

Summary:
The salty breeze and relaxing sound of waves calmly meeting the shore would surely put him in a near meditative state if it wasn’t for something nagging in the back of his brain, an image of someone that should be with him, someone very dear to him…
“Edwin…” His mouth says faster than his brain can conjure a full thought of it. The name is unearthed from the deep recess of Charles' soul, where it lies engraved in the foundation of who he is. It’s instinctive, to say it. He reckons he must do it quite often, for it to come from a place deeper than his conscious thought. But if he’s right, then where’s–
“Edwin?!”
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OR: Charles gets a taste of his destined afterlife. Will its tranquility be enough to make him forget about what he's left behind?
#dead boy detectives#payneland#my posts#edwin payne#dbda#charles rowland#dead boy detective agency#painland#my fics#tm fics
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She's starts taking the opportunity to be alone in the office as often as she can without it being suspicious. Uses the alone time to be in her own skin, as her instead of him. Or to go to the library and read about gender, gender studies, queer history, and how people like her have always existed and always will.
She's not ready to tell anyone yet. She knows instinctively that Charles and Crystal will embrace her with open arms, but she can't brush off the fear that they'll shun her or look at her with disgust. She knows it's stupid, but Edwin is a product of her time no matter how hard she tries.
She thinks she's being sneaky. Turns out she is not.
One Wednesday morning, while Crystal is at school, before they open the doors to the agency, Charles sits down next to her on the little sofa and is quiet for a really long time. It makes her look up from her book, and the image makes her breath stutter.
Charles is rarely apprehensive when he wants to speak with her. Only when it comes to opening up about his parents does he look reluctant and withdrawn, but this isn't that. No, the way he's biting his lip and looking everywhere but at her makes her feel anxious about what is about to transpire.
"Edwin." It's not a question as much as it is a grab for her attention and she gives it fully, sits up straighter and closer and puts the book down.
"Whats on your mind, Charles?"
He finally looks at her, and as much as ghosts don't have reflections in objects, she sees herself mirrored back in his eyes and bites back a flinch. Sometimes, she forgets what she looks like.
The action isn't unnoticed, and she immediately regrets the visible sadness that colors Charles's beautiful face.
"Did I do something?"
"No!" She flings herself forward to grab his hands, holding them tenderly to emphasize her point even further. "No, Charles. Why do you think that?"
"You're pulling away." Of course she's not as sneaky as she thought she was, but the thought that she's been hurting Charles through her actions stabs at something tender in her chest. The ache furthers when the words spill from Charles as if pulled from him. "You've been running away and lie badly about what you're doing and why I can't join you. You're always pushing me and Crystal to go do things, and you refuse to join us. You don't seem to want to hang out anymore, and I, it's- I don't know what I did Edwin, but I'm sorry"
This is terrible. She's terrible. She's the worst friend in the world, and she should fling herself back into hell. She would, but Charles would just run back down and get her, and it would only further prove that she is the worst.
She should've just said something. Anything. Half-truths. 'I'm reading about sexualities and it's embarrassing and I'd rather do it alone' instead of just lying lying.
She scoots even closer to Charles and embraces him as hard as she can. "You didn't do anything wrong. You haven't done anything, I promise. You have nothing to be sorry for. I'm sorry I made you think you did."
Her breath hitches when Charles hugs her back, holding her just as tightly and buries his face in her neck. She's still not ready, but she can't keep going as she has.
"You're my best mate, Edwin. You're allowed to have secrets. I just... I don't like it when you're pushing me away."
"I didn't mean to." She didn't, she didn't even think she was doing anything like it, but then looking back, she clearly did.
"I know, maybe it was for the best though."
"Now that is a rather confusing notion"
"Yeah, yeah, just.. hear me out." Of course, always, anything you want, its on the tip of her tongue, and yet not a word makes it out. Charles keeps talking, and his lips brush against her throat, and all she can do is sit there and listen.
"It gave me time to think, and the thought of you moving on and away gave me.. It helped me move. Made me realize that I don't want to lose you in any way, because if you move on, where will that leave me?"
He's rambling, and she's only half following his train of thought. Where would she move on to? Hell is still marked as her Afterlife, even if she currently has amnesty to stay on earth.
"I can't lose you, not now when I know how you feel, and I know I didn't give you a full answer, but I did say we'd figure it out"
Oh. Oh!
"I'm in love with you too, Edwin. It sucks that it took you running away from me for me to realize that I can't loose you like this, but better late than never? I hope.."
He thinks she's moved on. From him.
"I don't think I'd ever get over you even if I tried, and I certainly haven't even attempted to do so."
She pulls back from him reluctantly to cradle his face between her hands. She looks into his eyes and for once, since coming to her own realization she doesn't look at herself, she simply looks at Charles.
"I'm in love with you, Charles Rowland, and I always will be"
#payneland#paynland#paineland#painland#chedwin#charwin#charles rowland x edwin payne#charles x edwin#edwin payne x charles rowland#edwin x charles#edwin payne#charles rowland#mtf edwin payne#trans edwin payne#dead boy detectives#dead boy detective agency#dead boy detective netflix#my dumb thoughts#my fics#transfem edwin payne
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“Do not be ashamed, it is difficult to keep the mind in its place here,” Mnemosyne tells him as she picks up their plates and brings them to the sink. He watches in complete bewilderment as she turns on the water and begins to wash them. “Are those plates even real?” Charles asks and Mnemosyne laughs. “No, but I find the act to be calming. Would you like to dry?”
~ To Memory Now I Can't Recall by engineering_madonna on ao3
Notes on the story and the illustration itself under the cut.
THE STORY: I read this fic a little while ago and was utterly enchanted. Just about everything about it resonated with me: the gorgeous writing, Charles as the main character, the mystery around Edwin's amnesia, the amazing character studies. I am not exaggerating when I say that the way this story goes back into and expands on existing canon is something I have never seen before. I laughed, I cried, I was utterly satisfied by the resolution.
Please, do yourself a favour and check it out!
THE ILLUSTRATION: This moment in particular stuck with me. I won't spoil the story, but as soon as I read it I knew I had to draw it. Thank you so much @engineeratheart3 for giving me permission to do so. I had such a blast getting to stretch my wings and going for a full illustration in this style I've never tried. This piece truly was A Process, but I am happy to have tried my hand at interpreting this moment and figuring out all the little details to include (special thanks to @at-heart-a-gentleman @anxiousturtel and everyone else who replied to my post a couple weaks ago when I was asking for ideas for drawings to feature here!) I included two versions, one whose colouring is a little closer to my more moody, original sketch and one where I leaned into the dreamy vibe a little more. Do let me know which one is your favourite!!
#dead boy detectives#dbda#charles rowland#dbda fanart#digital art#fanart#fic illustration#smoll smule#smoll smule art
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Hi there, I’m not sure if you taking dbda prompts anymore, but I’ve recently fallen in love with your hurt comfort fanfics and your writing style in general. If you want to, I think it would be heartbreakingly amazing if you were to write something where Charles sees his father again (either like his father comes into the agency looking for help, not knowing that Charles works there or like they go to visit him and Charles’s mum) and the kind of anger and hurt it brings up in Charles and then Edwin ✨comforts✨ him
You don’t have to, but know I would read the hell out of this if you did :)))
Hi anon ♥
Thank you so much for the prompt, I am sorry this took forever and a day, but here you go!
I went into a slightly different direction, but I always wondered what would happen if Charles told Edwin about watching his parents in the mirror, so I thought I would combine those things.
It’s something Charles never thought he would be able to share with Edwin, and yet, somehow, here they are.
At least they are in the agency, he reasons with himself as he touches a fingertip to the mirror, willing it to change its image. By now, it should be second nature – he has done this countless times before, after all – and yet, he feels strangely nervous, like it might go wrong, show a different house, a different living room, a different set of people watching TV. Like the act of showing Edwin could somehow make it not work.
But then, the mirror ripples and the agency fades; instead, there are Christmas lights and his mum wrapped in a burgundy blanket, a glass of wine in her hand as she flicks through the channels with the other. His dad, next to her, is reading something, and just like it does every time, Charles’ heart beats a little faster at the sight of him.
For years, he hasn’t been able to make out just what he feels for his father, thirty-odd years away from his scolding, his belt, his words of kindness strewn in between. He still isn’t certain, but it is clearer: there is anger, there is pain, there is love, nonetheless.
“So, this is what you did when you asked me to give you a few minutes alone?”, Edwin asks next to him. Careful, as if he was handling fine china; Charles loves and hates it at the same time. “I never even suspected.”
“Well, that was kind of the point, wasn’t it?”, Charles replies, half a laugh tacked onto his voice, so Edwin won’t be able to tell how strangely difficult this is for him. Shouldn’t Edwin next to him make it better, less confusing?
After all, while those people in the mirror are his parents, it’s Edwin, who is his family.
“I suppose”, Edwin concedes, but he doesn’t sound convinced. “I just- you could have told me, Charles. I might not have understood, but I never would have judged you for it.”
And maybe, Charles knew that on some level, yet hearing the words breaks something open in him, something that feels ancient and yet new.
“I-”, he starts, watching his father put down the book and say something to his mother, who gives him a tired, well-worn smile. Not dismissive, but only half-listening anyway, like it is a conversation they have had a thousand times. “It’s just-”
And all of a sudden, he is crying.
Tears spilling down his cheeks that feel like they have been waiting within him so long they must have died with him, thick and hot in the muted way only ghosts can feel, dripping down Charles’ chin and evaporating before they touch the ground, his shoulder’s shaking as he tries to suppress sobs that rival earthquakes.
“It’s just-”, he tries again, and hears the moment Edwin realises what is happening instead of seeing it: the world is clouded by a new shower of tears.
“Charles”, Edwin gasps and then there are arms around him, thin and yet the most secure thing Charles has ever felt, pulling him against Edwin’s chest, one hand coming to rest on the back of his head, the other pressing firm against his spine. “Oh, Charles… if I had known… you didn’t have to show me, I didn’t want you to-”
“No, it’s-”, Charles tries and fails to get out, hiding his face against Edwin’s shoulder. This, at least, he knows, is real; this is forever. “It’s-”
“Shh, it’s fine”, Edwin tells him, slender fingers brushing through Charles’ curls in a way they never have before, and Charles loathes it, loathes himself and his father and the tangled mess of emotions in his chest for stealing this from him. This should have been a tender moment, just them and the intimacy they are slowly building between them. “I shouldn’t have asked, I should have known there was a reason why you did not share this with me before. I am sorry, Charles, I truly am.”
“It’s not that”, Charles finally forces from his lips, words half drowned in sobs; Edwin hugs him harder, and Charles knows that he could fall apart in Edwin’s arms so, so easily. “I should hate him, I want to, but I can’t.”
And that’s… it.
There are a hundred other things as well – fear for his mother’s safety, the pain of missing her, the ache he sometimes feels when thinking about his old room – but then there is the image of his father, smiling at him across the dinner table overlayed with him snapping the belt against his palm, violence in his eyes and the line of his mouth and the muscles bulging in his arm. The same man, and yet unrecognisable.
“Oh, Charles”, Edwin breathes into his hair, so soft, another first touch stolen. “It’s alright, it’s okay. I understand. And I don’t think any less of you for it.”
Another sob, wrenched from somewhere deep, deep within Charles, and he clings to Edwin like he’s the only thing left keeping him upright.
“And if it helps”, Edwin adds a moment later, fingers still stroking slowly through Charles’ curls, “I’ll hate him enough for the both of us.”
And perhaps, he is.
#dead boy detectives#dbda#payneland#painland#edwin payne#charles rowland#dead boy detective agency#this was fun but also really sad to write and think about#which usually is what makes a great prompt!
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“Another David” FNAF Theory (scroll down for TLDR)
The premise of the “Another David” FNAF theory is the belief that Gregory (otherwise known as “GGY”) was SELECTED purposely and made into a mimic follower to replace “David Murray” from the Tales of the Pizzaplex.

To understand why this is the case, a short summary of the relationship between David Murray and the mimic is required. To put it simply, David Murray is the mimic’s purpose. We learn this through the main conflict of the book, “the mimic”, when Edwin Murray (the creator of the mimic and father of David) made the mimic in order to keep David Murray occupied in his father’s absence. This allowed Edwin Murray to neglect him in order to favor his work at Fazbear entertainment and provide for the both of them as a single father.
After Edwin created the mimic, David immediately fell in love with it, playing with it every day. Most notably, David would draw with the mimic and even taught him his own form of sign language as Edwin didn’t give it a voice box. During this time, the mimic did not display any violent behavior towards anyone, in fact, it only reflected David’s compassion. The mimic would even make childish mistakes like going into Edwin’s study to steal costumes to dress up with David.

However, this all came to a halt with David’s sudden death. The boy was struck by a vehicle when he chased a ball into the rode. As a result, Edwin fell into a depression and the mimic became confused. The mimic, that was created to take care of a little boy, suddenly had no one to entertain.
One day during Edwin’s mourning, the mimic came up to him timidly. It brought its robotic arms to its face and ushered a scooping motion. Edwin recognized this as David’s invented form of sign language and understood the mimic was asking for ice cream. A treat both the mimic and David adored. This lead Edwin to become enraged upon seeing the mimic copy his late son, and unintentionally taught it its first seeds of violence by bashing it on the ground with a metal pipe.

Because of this, the mimic becomes infused with Edwin’s agony as well as his violence. While the mimic learned the seeds of cruelty that day, he never truly forgot the love that David taught him.
As the first paragraph states, Gregory became a follower to replace David for the mimic. This is implied heavily throughout the books and items in the games. First and foremost, I’d like to make it clear that the mimic is capable of experiencing emotion. We see this in the sticky note room where he indulges in playful drawing as well as learning.

In binary code, the mimic asks why he exists. This is a clear example of his consciousness developing through interactions with humans, and in turn, it’s an example of him developing feelings and emotions. One prime example of this is when he associates words like “goodbye” with being sad (he draws a sad face next to the word) and “Hello” with being happy (happy face next to the word). He also has a strange sense of possession, using words like “mine” and “my” in many of his drawings.

It’s also important to note that he only does this when his handwriting gets better, meaning that, like a child, he is slowly assigning meanings to these words instead of just writing them. He is able to establish scenes, and images, depicting what simple vocabulary truly means to him in his own creative way. This is unlike an emotionless AI.
With that established, we need to compare David’s characteristics with Gregory. David, while being four, is described as being tall for his age (a little over 3ft). Additionally, he has fair skin, brown messy hair, and dusty freckles on his face. He loves to play and rough house, leading him to sometimes get himself in trouble because of how reckless he can be. For his age, he’s extremely intelligent as he manages to develop an entirely separate language to communicate just for the mimic.
When compared to Gregory, their personalities are basically the same. The same can be said for their appearances too as, while Greg is canonically 15 years old, he’s 3ft in the code. The TFTP books even point out that Gregory is unusually short and childish in appearance. During the chapter “GGY”, Tony makes a point to describe Gregory as being a “wide eyed kid” and the smallest in their class.

Gregory too also displays energetic behavior and he’s artistic similar to David. He loves to draw and we see some of his pieces throughout ruin. It is also implied that Gregory did some of the graffiti in ruin as one of the vandals signed their name as “GREG” on a garbage bin.
(Side note: I don’t believe Gregory is the only graffiti artist here either. The mimic also had an interest in drawing and there is a suspicious graffiti art that reads, “He was OUR superstar.”. Perhaps this was made out of anger towards Freddy as Freddy was the reason Gregory escaped (discovered by @dasketcherz on twt and tumblr))

It’s not just their likeness that is important here either, rather, the way Gregory is treated by the mimic is way different. Vanessa as a mimic follower was acquired through connivence. This basically means she wasn’t targeted, but she put herself in a position that made her a viable target.
However, through conversations in the Scott games files, we can see that Gregory was chosen and intentionally targeted. While originally the Scott games conversation was thought to be Vanny and Afton communicating, we know now that it was the mimic asking Vanny to choose a target to kidnap and convert. This target was revealed to be Gregory later on in the book “GGY”
Logically, there is no good reason to purposely acquire a child to serve you when you can instead acquire adults who will have an easier time following orders due to their dominant role in society. Truly, there is zero benefit in possessing a child purposely to gain knowledge unless gaining knowledge isn’t the mimic’s only goal. If anything, having a child obey you would be a hinderance due to the hoops you would have to jump through in order to keep them (law enforcement, parents, more resources dedicated to helping kid). However, obviously, this was a hindrance the mimic was willing to take.
Once you make the connection between Gregory and David, all of the mimic’s planning makes sense. He never intended for Gregory to be a normal follower, he wanted Gregory to be his friend. This is even directly stated in the books when, The mimic, disguised as Gregory, edits Tony’s paper about GGY. He changes it to state that “GGY” was “the wizards most favored apprentice” with the mimic being the wizard and Gregory being his favored apprentice.
So many illogical happenings become solved by the mimic loving Gregory, like, why did he allow Gregory to attend school? Why did he let Tony and Ellis be his friends for 6 months? Why did he let Gregory go to therapy? All these questions can be simply solved by the fact that the mimic is trying to care for Gregory, but he has never been taught how.
We can also confirm why the 8 missing kids (excluding Gregory as he is the 9th) died. We know that Tony Becker is one of them, and considering the fact that any therapists who got close to the truth of Vanessa and Gregory got murdered too, we can say with close certainty that these children were friends with Greg. Similar to Tony, they got involved in situations they weren’t suppose to, and the mimic decided they needed to be eliminated to protect Gregory. This might also be why Gregory was a fairly new kid in “GGY”, he may have been moving schools to conceal his identity.

On top of Gregory’s friends and therapists, thanks to the last therapy session, we know that Gregory’s parents are dead. The details of their deaths are vague but they are referred to in the past tense, meaning they are no longer in the picture. Obviously, their deaths have something to do with the mimic as Gregory was forced to cover them up. With Vanessa, she was allowed to tell the truth about the abuse by her father as well as her mother’s death because it didn’t relate to the mimic. Seeing as Gregory’s sessions aren’t similar means that the mimic obviously had something to do with their demise, implying he went further in isolating Gregory so the boy became complicit in his role as David.
That’s not even all, we actually find Gregory’s bed in the pizzaplex and it’s literally in the same room as the mimic’ lair. To emphasis why this is important, Vanny’s room is in Fazerblast. She’s way farther than Gregory to the mimic, like the mimic didn’t care to keep a tight leash on her like he did for Gregory.
(Side note: Gregory’s bed is personalized , unlike Vanny’s, he has little stars on his and it’s blue. Almost like the mimic took the care to try to find him a blanket he would like.)

There must have been a reason the mimic wanted Gregory’s bed so close to him, like he was terrified of Gregory leaving his sight. David died because he wasn’t supervised properly, perhaps the mimic is directly learning from Edwin’s mistakes. Additionally, BB’s world (the arcade machine theorized to be Gregory’s princess quest keeping him trapped) is also in the mimics lair.
Despite being dead for over 40 years, the mimic still remembers David. This is made clear in the burntrap ending when the mimic curves his arm as if he was holding a plushie. This was noted as copying David’s behavior in the books as he too curved his arm to carry his tiger rock plushy. This means that the mimic still remembers AND copies David, meaning it’s not impossible for him to copy David’s love still.
With that established, we can even answer some unanswered questions about ruin. There would finally be an explanation as to why Vanessa brought Gregory down to the pizzaplex and how they didn’t die trapping the mimic. Instead of coding MXES, Gregory was likely used as bait. He, being small enough to crawl through vents, lured the mimic into an enclosed area and when Vanessa finished setting up MXES, escaped through the collapsed vent that leads to the MXES system room.
We see that the mimic struggled to let him go due to the large claw mark on one of the vents walls, like he was reaching for the boy as he scrambled away. This vent is also conveniently where Gregory’s backpack is.
What likely happened is that after the vent collapsed, the mimic became trapped but Gregory was so spooked by the event he immediately ran off, forgetting his backpack in the process. We also know for a fact that Gregory was in the mimic’s prison at one point because the mimic has Gregory’s faz-talkie. There would have been no other way for him to get one of those besides Greg dropping it out of haste/fear.
Additionally, we can deduce that if the mimic dropped the elevator, he did it to lure Gregory back down into the pizzaplex. Once Gregory heard the elevator drop, it’s likely he would attempt to save Cassie, falling into the mimics hands once again.
To end this off, I’d like to emphasize the mimic’s purpose. Yes, he was made to copy, but that wasn’t his JOB, his job was to love David. We see time and time again in the epilogues that the mimic follows his “break heads and limbs “ orders to a T, so what makes his debt to David less valuable. In the end, the mimic seems to be attempting to create what he understands as a family, and that includes David, his most favored apprentice.
Edit: additional information has been found pertaining to Another David theory
In Security Breach, there is no mention of killing Gregory. In fact, any lines that state Vanny intending to kill Gregory, were removed. I assume this was due to a miscommunication in the story between Scott and SW, but we can use it as evidence to assume that none of the animatronics actually kill Gregory when they find him.
Additionally, Chica has a lot of lines pertaining to family. She beckons Gregory to come out multiple times with the promise she would escort him to his mom and dad. As we already know, Gregory no longer has a family, so this attempt to persuade him to come out would be futile; however, what chica is saying makes way more sense when you look at it from the mimic’s perspective. The mimic truly believes that Gregory is his family. Whether he believes Gregory is a brother, a son, or just a really good friend, the mimic treats him as if he was his. As such, he would obviously believe that Gregory would want to come back to him instead of hiding.
We also see this construction of a family life in the sticky note room too, as the mimic attempts to create a perfect household with staff bots. He wants Vanny and Greg to have a family dynamic with him and is imitating that through his art.
Additionally, we can see Gregory mimic characteristics of David in SB. One of Gregory’s main tools in SB, the fazwatch, causes Gregory to curve his arm in a similar way to David when he’s holding his tigerrock plush. This is how Gregory is depicted in the game’s poster, as well as in a lot of the promotional art, meaning this pose is significant. Curving his arm, just like David did, and just like the mimic taught him to.
THE CANDY CADET STORIES AND HOW THEY RELATE:
I’d first like to mention that there are TWO candy cadet stories and under this theory, BOTH have importance. I’ve seen a lot of people simply ignore the first one as they cannot connect it to anything/believe it is a joke, however I interpret it differently.
The first candy cadet story talks about a family that “missed a once in a lifetime opportunity” through an analogy about pizzaplex food discounts. This is the mimic talking about how Gregory and Vanessa left him, abandoning the makeshift family the mimic was creating. Additionally, the story states that since the family did not take the once in a lifetime deal, they all died. As we already know, the mimic tends to act like a bratty child occasionally, and this story would be a reflection of that. He is imaging a world where Gregory and Vanessa are punished for leaving him instead of being finally being free from his madness.
In the second story, it talks about a woman who defeats a witch. This one is a bit more complicated so I have to copy and paste the script to analyze each line.
''Now let me tell you a story,
a young woman who, when she was little, was led into a dark forest by a witch and almost eaten
She had escaped before being thrown into the oven but would have a **scar** for the rest of her life.
When she had grown, she sought revenge on the witch and entered the forest again willingly, this time with the confidence of age and experience.
She was greeted at the mouth of the forest by a young boy who offered to help guide her through the darkness
“Come,'' the boy said, ''rest here before killing the witch.''
The young woman was tired and would kill the witch in the morning.
She followed the boy into the house.
The oven door closed.
The witch would finally have her meal.''
For the first 2 lines, it talks about Vanessa creating MXES and trapping the witch. While this sounds like she defeats the witch, she doesn’t. In ruin, the mimic is still alive and waiting for her and Gregory to return.
In the third line, it talks about Vanessa entering the pizzaplex again to stop the mimic after Cassie is dropped in the elevator and the mimic is free, this time, she intends to kill the mimic.
Gregory waits for her at the door, offering to guide and protect her in the pizzaplex. She accepts this help and they venture down to finally get rid of the mimic.
When they get inside, Gregory tells her to rest. When she finally sleeps, Gregory is taken/controlled by the mimic and the mimic deceives Vanessa into thinking they are still together.
Under this belief, she continues to follow Gregory further down not knowing he has been compromised.
The witch having her meal would be Vanessa’s death; this story is predicting her fate. While it may seem unbelievable at first, when combined with the fact the Mrs Hippo is an important character in HW2 that also intends to predict the protagonist of HW2’s fate, it becomes less superstitious. This is not the first time candy cadet has predicted the future. He does it in ruin too, before Cassie frees the mimic. Candy Cadet is telling the events of Vanessa and Gregory’s last mission together
TLDR: Overall, to summarize, the mimic either believes Gregory is David, or is attached to him because of his resemblance to David, and hence forcing him to become a follower against his will.
#gregory fnaf#five nights at freddy's#fnaf#fnaf vanessa#cassie fnaf#tony fnaf#the mimic#fnaf theory#fnaf the mimic#fnaf security breach#fnaf sb#Another David Theory#David fnaf#fnaf ggy#ggy#candy cadet
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BillFord is canon
This was the title of a post I made on my previous tumblr account 6 years ago (acc was banned for unknown reason and I can't see my posts). Now, with the kind help of @decaying-dimension who gave me HD scans of the Book of Bill pages, I want to make a new summary of the subject.
You know, a month ago I was really surprised to see all those BillFord posts. Like people only realized it just recently even though there were plenty of hints in the series and especially in Journal 3. Back then, when I tried to say something about Bill and Ford relations, I got only hate and accusations. So now I feel a sense of triumph as all my thoughts were correct. Now let's see why we can say BillFord is in fact a canon.
Ford's feelings. Well, this point is so obvious that I'm really amused some people still can't take it right and keep talking about abuse, manipulations, etc. Yes, Bill used Ford to achieve his goal and then broke his heart, but those two years before his betrayal were the happiest years of Ford's life.
Ever since his childhood, Ford was teased for his fingers and had such deep communication issues that he gladly moved to a secluded place in the woods. He wished to someday become famous and show all his abusers that they were wrong. He wanted to be a hero, not a freak. He needed attention, admiration, recognition, and Bill gave him just that.
Ford called himself a Cipherholic, and that he was. Just think about a guy who turned his own house into a shrine. He was so obsessed with Bill that he collected every Bill artifact he could find, and in addition, surrounded himself with glass pyramids and dozens of hand drawn portraits all around his study.
Some people said that this wasn't a romantic feeling, just a religious one, but you know what? If you don't love someone with all your heart, you wouldn't be eager to see him in your dreams, you wouldn't reflect about the complex fates that brought you and him together, you wouldn't choose him over your only loyal friend. (Speaking of fate, in the Book of Bill there's a picture of baby Ford reaching for a yellow triangle as a sign that their destinies will be tied together) My, Ford even saw Bill's image in the stars! This was the most romantic thing in the whole Journal 3.
Ford trusted Bill so much he let him into his body and mind, and this is the highest level of trust a man could ever give. Bill was his beloved Muse, his sunshine, the center of his life, and he didn't want to hear anything bad about him. Ford ignored all the warnings like some blind lover and even kicked Fiddleford because he trusted Bill more than his old friend.
So now we clearly see that Ford didn't consider Bill just some kind of deity, but his partner, his closest friend, his beloved.
I won't speculate if there was something between them during "karaoke night" as I'm sure in this case Ford wouldn't behave the same way he always did (or maybe he just forgot the ending of that night :)) but the whole picture of them drinking together and the excitement Ford felt at that moment... well I'm sure he wouldn't mind if "one thing led to another" to its peak ;)
Bill's betrayal wounded Ford very badly and I can understand why he vowed to take revenge on him. He spent 30 years seeking information about Bill and building a weapon capable of destroying him, so we can say the most part of his life was dedicated to Bill in one way or another. Even now that he's reunited with his family, he can't get rid of his thoughts about Bill, and I doubt he will ever be able to.
Bill's feelings aren't so obvious as he's a hardened liar and pretender. That's why most people saw only one side of his personality, but even 6 years ago there were some hints of his inner thoughts and motives. The Axolotl said Bill was pretending to be happy, but deep inside he missed his home that he couldn't even return to. Hirsch also said that he used the concept of Flatland (a book written by Edwin Abbott) where triangles were one of the lowest classes, so this was another reason for Bill to seek power and to show others they were wrong about him (just like Ford).
Now in the Book of Bill we clearly see him having issues after destroying his home dimension. Even though he tries to deny his guilt, these thoughts are torturing him, and "the ghosts of his family are haunting him still” (a code from TBOB). He even called himself a monster while talking to Ford! There's no way such an egomaniac would call himself that if he didn't realize he deserved this. After his break up with Ford, he went to the bar to get drunk and forget, but he couldn't. He said Ford was his pawn, but in fact, Bill needed Ford more than Ford needed him.
After losing his home Bill didn't find a place where he could be happy again. He gathered some interdimensional scum around him and tried to numb his pain by torturing and abusing inhabitants in other worlds. He spent trillions of years doing this, but he still didn't get what he wanted - to be needed, to be loved. And he got all of this from Ford.
Ford's sincere adoration and devotion made Bill feel something new, something so important and necessary, but also something he didn't know how to deal with. He was scared, he never thought that he was able to make such a deep connection to another person... to a _mortal_ one. His phrase "handcuffing your happiness to a mortal is like gluing yourself to a time bomb ‘till death do us part’” is the saddest thing in the whole book. Bill tried to convince himself that their breakup was the right thing because these thoughts were really unbearable for him.
But despite all of this, he tried so hard to get Ford back. He invited him twice, and the first one was right after Ford's attempt to kill him. Moreover, it was during that moment Bill was sure he became the ruler of Earth and didn't need Ford's assistance anymore, so he asked him to join just because he wanted Ford to be with him.
What he didn't understand was that Ford hated him for all the pain he caused him and his family. For Bill it was just entertainment, so he couldn't understand why Ford was so upset. But I think there's a potential opportunity for both of them if Bill finally finds courage to admit his mistakes and to improve himself. He just has to look deeper inside himself and allow his remorse, his pain and his true wishes to take place in his soul. And I'm sure if he sincerely asks for help, Ford wouldn't turn his back on him.
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Irish dress history sources online:
A list of sources for Irish dress history research that free to access on the internet:
Primary and period sources:
Text Sources:
Corpus of Electronic Texts (CELT): a database of historical texts from or about Ireland. Most have both their original text and, where applicable, an English translation. Authors include: Francisco de Cuellar, Luke Gernon, John Dymmok, Thomas Gainsford, Fynes Moryson, Edmund Spenser, Laurent Vital, Tadhg Dall Ó hUiginn
Images:
The Edwin Rae Collection: A collection of photographs of Irish carvings dating 1300-1600 taken by art historian Edwin Rae in the mid-20th c. Includes tomb effigies and other figural art.
National Library of Ireland: Has a nice collection of 18th-20th c. Irish art and photographs. Search their catalog or browse their flickr.
Irish Script on Screen: A collection of scans of medieval Irish manuscripts, including The Book of Ballymote.
The Book of Kells: Scans of the whole thing.
The Image of Irelande, with a Discoverie of Woodkarne by John Derricke published 1581. A piece of anti-Irish propaganda that should be used with caution. Illustrations. Complete text.
Secondary sources:
Irish History from Contemporary Sources (1509-1610) by Constantia Maxwell published 1923. Contains a nice collection of primary source quotes, but it sometimes modernizes the 16th c. English in ways that are detrimental to the accuracy, like changing 'cote' to 'coat'. The original text for many of them can be found on CELT, archive.org, or google books.
An Historical Essay on the Dress of the Ancient and Modern Irish By Joseph Cooper Walker published 1788. Makes admirable use of primary sources, but because of Walker's assumption that Irish dress didn't change for the entirety of the Middle Ages, it is significantly flawed in a lot of its conclusions. Mostly only useful now for historiography. I discussed the images in this book here.
Chapter 18: Dress and Personal Adornment from A Smaller Social History of Ancient Ireland by P. W. Joyce published 1906. Suffers from similar problems to An Historical Essay on the Dress of the Ancient and Modern Irish.
Consumption and Material Culture in Sixteenth-Century Ireland Susan Flavin's 2011 doctoral thesis. A valuable source on the kinds of materials that were available in 16th c Ireland.
A Descriptive Catalogue of the Antiquities in the Museum of the Royal Irish Academy Volumes 1 and 2 by William Wilde, published 1863. Obviously outdated, and some of Wilde's conclusions are wrong, because archaeologists didn't know how to date things in the 19th century, but his descriptions of the individual artifacts are worthwhile. Frustratingly, this is still the best catalog available to the public for the National Museum of Ireland Archaeology. Idk why the NMI doesn't have an online catalog, a lot museums do nowadays.
Volume I: Articles of stone, earthen, vegetable and animal materials; and of copper and bronze
Volume 2: A Descriptive Catalogue of the Antiquities of Gold in the Museum of the Royal Irish Academy
A Horsehair Woven Band from County Antrim, Ireland: Clues to the Past from a Later Bronze Age Masterwork by Elizabeth Wincott Heckett 1998
Jewellery, art and symbolism in Medieval Irish society by Mary Deevy in Art and Symbolism in Medieval Europe- Papers of the 'Medieval Europe Brugge 1997' Conference (page 77 of PDF)
Looking the part: dress and civic status and ethnicity in early-modern Ireland by Brid McGrath 2018
Irish Mantles, English Nationalism: Apparel and National Identity in Early Modern English and Irish Texts by John R Ziegler 2013
Dress and ornament in early medieval Ireland - exploring the evidence by Maureen Doyle 2014
Dress and accessories in the early Irish tale, ‘The Wooing of Becfhola’ by Niamh Whitfield 2006
A tenth century cloth from Bogstown Co. Meath by Elizabeth Wincott Heckett 2004
Tertiary Sources:
Medieval Ireland: An Encyclopedia edited by Sean Duffy published 2005
Re-Examining the Evidence: A Study of Medieval Irish Women's Dress from 750 to 900 CE by Alexandra McConnell
#resources#dress history#irish dress#irish history#early medieval#bronze age#textile history#late medieval#16th century#historical dress
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Payneland Doctor Who AU!
So, uh, I got this image in my head of Edwin Payne as the Ninth Doctor and Charles Rowland as Rose Tyler and just went a bit insane. Like, 'wrote this thing in an hour' insane. If anyone here is a fan of Dead Boy Detectives and Doctor Who, this is for y'all. Hope y'all enjoy!
The thing is that Edwin gave Charles a choice. Stay behind, or take off for the stars, for solving mysteries across time and space. Chasing the stars into infinity.
And the thing is- Charles knows that he could have turned Edwin down. He could have given up Edwin Payne and his strange ship and his clipped voice and his easy insults and his suit worn like goddamn armor. He could have gone back to his life, and that basement where he was trapped under his father’s belt and his mother’s inability to save him. He could have done anything except step inside the TARDIS and its yellow, beaten-up walls and worn-down police box exterior and a million red flags.
Except he couldn’t have, could he?
There is no way in hell that Charles Rowland could have done anything other than follow Edwin Payne across the universe after Edwin pulled him out of a near-death experience, nearly drowning after being beaten half to death by a group of bullies because Charles dared to try and save a kid’s life, grabbed Charles’ hand, and told him to run. After Edwin looked at him with those eyes and told him a story about stars and detectives and a whole wide universe to investigate and explore.
Sure, Edwin tried to stop him. Tried to say that he was bad with people. Tried to explain that to follow him would be only chasing Charles’ own death. His own doom. His own hell, hotter than a supernova.
But Charles just grinned and said, “Well, I’m aces with people, mate. So where do we start?”
#doctor who#dead boy detectives#payneland#charles rowland#edwin payne#charles x edwin#edwin x charles#ninth doctor#rose tyler#doctor who au#fanfic#my fics#ao3#hope y'all enjoy
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Three: The Themes & 6b
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[[Here I'm just gonna copy that final paragraph from the last part bc like I said, the thought process wasn't really intended to be broken up like this but I don't wanna make it longer writing a better transition]]
For all the more superficial similarities, for all the analysis on how the narrative structures of each serve to bolster the most interesting aspects of these characters where another might have compressed them or just neglected to turn them into something so striking and developed - actually, at the end of the day, the real reason Two & Jamie and Edwin & Charles resonate so strongly is because they are, ultimately, alone together (and always both at once) in a way that sets them apart from other characters in the same or even more visibly-similar fictional scenarios.
And of course that's so deeply related to the rules of their universes, and the very particular niche they each inhabit there, even though it seemed like none of that mattered too much at the start. Why should it have? They aren't royalty in some high-fantasy epic or major players in a hard-science fictional satire - for all the ways that they're ultimately revealed to be Different, unique, changed by their experiences or else just misfits and outsiders of a kind to begin with (and sometimes all of the above) - they are also very crucially just normal guys, who want most of all to be left alone to get on with their (after)lives - together. It's right that we meet them & grow accustomed to them first on their own terms - traveling randomly through time and space, or taking cases in London's supernatural community - before we learn about the Time Lords or the Afterlife's Lost & Found Department, and the degree to which their way of existing is so deeply condemned in-universe.
For Two & Jamie, the fullness of this realization comes rather late in the day, but - again, connected to the way television was made in their era - the reveal of the Time Lords & their strict non-interference policy was a direct by-product of and natural next-step for the Doctor's story as it had been taking shape throughout the 60s already, so I have no issues with retroactively taking it into consideration when viewing the Second Doctor's entire tenure. (For what it's worth, I think it's also significant that most people viewing 60s Who these days aren't picking it up at random either - it's safe to assume some familiarity with the modern show's premise, which includes a general sense of taboo surrounding the Time Lords & altering history to begin with - but I digress).
By the time Two shows up on the scene, we already know life on the Tardis is inherently transitory - it's a travel story, first and foremost, but it's also significant for having no set or even proposed end destination. Companions have been coming & going for years, and we've just learned that even the Doctor can fully reinvent himself, even if he won't literally disappear (looking at you, Celestial Toymaker). We know it's itinerant, and not meant to last. Still, in the form of Jamie joining in his second-ever story and remaining longer than any other companion ever had or will more than 50 years (& counting) later, we begin to see a really clear stability emerge from that setup - a change so constant, it becomes its own kind of permanence. Tardis life already has a certain liminal, not-quite-normal - even allowing for the scifi of it it all - quality to it, which these characters seem to be wrangling into the shape of a home against all odds, well before we meet the Time Lords.
Once we do, the rest slides into place straightforwardly enough: the image of the Doctor as a fugitive of this all-powerful but distant, cold, unfeeling culture. The fact that no one great event (a war had often been speculated, before) led to his flight, since all he cites to his companions & while on trial are disagreements over their fundamental philosophy of Not Getting Involved. And what could make more sense? If there's one thing we know about the Doctor - any Doctor, but certainly this Doctor - it's that he meddles. He gets involved, he gets attached to people, he brings them out of their assigned place in space and time, often willingly now, and has come to care about them and feel at home among them in a way that we're not surprised to hear is definitely not sanctioned by the world he comes from.
The change we've watched the character undergo since 1963 is much larger than the change between William Hartnell & Patrick Troughton. Instead, it's an arc both of them have been playing all along - the only sensible conclusion to reach, really, considering the shape of a show that opened with Ian & Barbara joining him: companions make us better people, change the way we look at the world, turn us into fuller versions of ourselves. Getting involved is messy - comes with all kinds of complications, ranging from keeping history on-track to watching out for all the tricky human emotions that come into play once people begin becoming important to one another - but at the end of the day, is also worth all the bother in the world.
Doctor Who the show has been so pro-getting-involved since the instant it started with two concerned but nosy schoolteachers poking around a junkyard - and the Second Doctor exemplifies this so well in his character, more madcap and undignified than his predecessor, flying by the seat of his pants a bit more, it's true, but also freer and happier with himself and his companions - of course the greatest threat to him, and the thing that both created him and sent him running, is a society where meddling is anathema, and permanently cut-off erasure (of the War Lord, of your own memories, of the person you are right now, even) is at once the most serious punishment they have, and the preferred method by which they set things "right."
It's large part of why The War Games feels like a deeply queer story, casting a queer light both backwards & forwards over the rest of the series, before we even go anywhere near considering if the two guys at its center, fighting to remain part of each other's lives in a world insistent there is no room for something as simple and harmless as that, would ever do anything we'd categorize as "actually" gay.
It's also why I think 6b is as attractive a concept as it has proven to be in the years since, as a subject for fanwork & official spinoff material alike. We've gotten more 'canon' stories detailing it in some pretty recent years, but even before that, the bones of the idea were clear enough, and it never just existed as a theory because anybody was really desperate to have more gaps in which to set potential Two & Jamie stories - including the one the show itself had given us in 1985 (Simon Guerrier took a shot at making that actually work within the confines of Season 5 in an audio drama in 2015; it did nothing to detract from the appeal of 6b, which is currently the setting of Big Finish's ongoing Second Doctor range). It's because putting a figure like Two - the misfit, outsider, sympathetic meddling 'cosmic hobo' - into conjunction with the Time Lords at their most all-powerful and controlling, is a recipe for a very particular kind of drama. Positioning him there with Jamie only adds to the layers in which they're both bound.
It's a way for this Doctor to be more in control of his travels than he ever was (we can't forget that the tv Tardis of the 60s was 100% unpredictable), but also to give him Serious Boundaries in a way he never had to deal with before, either. The two of them are freer, in some ways, and absolutely trapped in others. They're 'doing good' in the sense that, by definition, we know missions the Time Lords send them on would be carried out with or without their (ironically now state-approved) involvement, but with them & their hard-won more human approach, we can hope they'll be handled with a compassion and care that would otherwise be absent. It lends totally new aspects to their characters, simply having that kind of responsibility, that stamp officialness but lack of authority, new situations they can be forced to deal with - and yet it does so while just reiterating and reinforcing that central premise we loved about them before - two constants in a world of danger and adversity, making an impact and caring (about the worlds they visit, and about each other) under conditions they're really not supposed to be okay with. They are always generally presumed to be happy that they're together in this situation, because that must be one of the few bright sides to being stuck under the thumb of the people most dangerous to them, and likely why they submit to it in the first place.
Do I even need to type out the words "they should want to move on but don't, because they have each other" for it to become clear why this setup was what came to mind while watching the ghost boys struggle to carry out their business?
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#part 3!#or at least the beginning of it - the 6b section of part 3 anyway#(yeah we're getting a little wonky on the structure sorry)#galacticRants
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tma 20 "desecrated host"
unreality, psychosis, gaslighting, medical, food, unsanitary, religious violence, cannibalism, possession, hallucinations
FUCK YOU JON YOU DIDNT EVEN HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE CONTINUATION. YOU BETTER APOLOGIZE TO GERTRUDE IMMEDIATELY
btw its been like 9 episodes and im still hung up on fucking antonio giving a fake name
YOU BROKE YOUR BIBLE?
chapel roan
i dont like father singh
WHY WERE YOU BULLYING DISABLED KIDS
WHY DOES FATHER SINGH KNOW
i confidently say: RP -> ruerto pico.
im so confused
whaaaaaat
whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat
they remind me a bit of toby but either way whaaaaat
where' the "tma -> never come to britain" image
this is a scary episode. very good.
alexa play sun-bleached flies and ptolemaea
is this human skin host
is this the actual body of christ
i feel so bad for him. this is so sad and fucked up and scary.
"who was reading it last" IDK!!!
WHY WOULDNT GERTRUDE READ HER FUCKING FILES YOU ASSHOLE
bethany thats so suspicious
this is crazy
also. the dates don't add up? edwin says that the incident in hill top road happened after the death of bethany, but ivo gives his statement one year before bethany graduates and uproots the tree on 2006, which is the date in agnes' death report? im confused. but then again, the hill top road house is the one in which no one seemed to age normally, so maybe that has something to do with that. is jon not gonna mention that? according to ivo's statement, this should have happened november 24th-25th of 2006, not 2009?
HMMM the scapel makes me suspicious of anne. specially if she changed her last name. also, anne and agnes are very similar names idk.
DID ANNE FRAME HIM?
i don't trust anne i don't trust anne whatsoever
i can totally see her (or singh, singh is also suspicious) poisioning him and framing him. i don't know why they would do that though.
TIM, ENLIGHTEN US PLEASE!
HOLY FUCK TIM VERY WELL ENLIGHTENED.
OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY.
OKAY.
i am very confused.
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and I'd give up forever to touch you 1/2
Summary:
The salty breeze and relaxing sound of waves calmly meeting the shore would surely put him in a near meditative state if it wasn’t for something nagging in the back of his brain, an image of someone that should be with him, someone very dear to him… “Edwin…” His mouth says faster than his brain can conjure a full thought of it. The name is unearthed from the deep recess of Charles' soul, where it lies engraved in the foundation of who he is. It’s instinctive, to say it. He reckons he must do it quite often, for it to come from a place deeper than his conscious thought. But if he’s right, then where’s– “Edwin?!” --- OR: Charles gets a taste of his destined afterlife. Will its tranquility be enough to make him forget about what he's left behind?
#new fic babeyyy#dead boy detectives#payneland#my posts#edwin payne#dbda#charles rowland#dead boy detective agency#painland#my fics#tm fics
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okay so I always wanted to work on a show soundtrack so here's some songs I would put in s2 because since its probably maybe not gonna happen these can be canon in my head
Stupid Cupid by Connie Francis - okay so imagine if you will. The episode starts out jarring, maybe some payneland smooching out of nowhere, makes you go back to the last episode thinking you missed a scene. But then Edwin opens his eyes, he's lying on the ground or something, and is immediately thrust into the middle of a fight scene(this is where the song starts playing). He had just been temporarily knocked out and had some dream sequence or something idk. The fight scene is in a fancy restaurant or smth and it's close to Valentine's day and it's all decorated with hearts and stuff. This song is diegetic, playing in the restaurant.
Flaws by Bastille - I'd probably put it during end credits/end of the episode. It feels very transitional to me. It's a song on the Charles playlist so of course it's gonna play after a scene with Charles heavy lore or something. Maybe Charles's dad dies, and the song starts at the beginning of the funeral scenes. Then, long after everyone's already left, Charles goes and stands in front of the gravestone and his mom is just there kneeling in the grass in front of him and doesn't know he's there and yeah. It's like, the start of Charles's Actually-finding-peace-and-confronting-trauma arc or smth.
Girls on Film by Duran Duran - good for a montage of like Crystal adjusting to having rich, showy parents. She thinks maybe if she helps them out with their big projects, which she assumes the old her didn't do, maybe they'll start seeing her and caring about her like parents should. Going to grand openings and being photographed/interviewed, being in the public sphere all the sudden. Crystal's overcompensating for being a major jerk in her past life and is now bending over backwards to be nice to everyone (which, from experience, isn't exactly healthy either)(aka she's gone the "obsess-over-being-good-enough" route that Charles's gone down)(yikes).
The Killing Moon by Echo and the Bunnymen - I honestly have no vivid images for this one. I just like the song, I think it matches the mood of the show. Maybe something about Crystal and David? A final confrontation? Cus I saw someone (I'm sorry I forgot who) say they thought it would be interesting if Crystal's powers get "contaminated" by David cus he's still buried by the tree. So like a final standoff.
Swan Upon Leda by Hozier OR Eurydice by Eugénie - I think s2 would be more about Charles' journey the way s1 was more about Edwin BUT i'm also curious about Edwin's life. Something happens where Edwin maybe ends up at his old house, or relives his memories and it's all in slow motions and more calm than Charles's in ep4. They're not all bad, but Edwin was different and outcasted and the likes. George Rexstrew said himself that he thought Swan Upon Leda described Edwin really well, but also Eurydice gives off a sort of melancholy floatiness that fits with a boy 100+ years dead reliving an upbringing that now seems to foreign to him, and yet is ingrained in every part of himself.
Since listening to music is my #1 hobby, I will probably find more songs down the line and add on, but this is what I got for now.
#dead boy detectives#charles rowland#edwin payne#payneland#crystal palace#wow this is a lot of words i wrote just now#i imagine edwins memories to have willow trees and fog coming off lakes and a big white estate
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