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After recent events, I ended up going back to the beginning to check things, because my first reaction will always be "wtf, this is shit, why would you do this" and my second reaction will always be "okay maybe that was a bit much, maybe he's not THAT bad, maybe has a good reason-

Okay.. that doesn't rly mean anything, maybe she's just worried kaito found something he shouldn't-

Okay.. okay this looks, well maybe he's just leaving some recordings in case kaito found something he shouldn't! It's not like they can hide it forever! The room is part of the house! Kaito lives in the house-

Excuse me... What did .. what did you say...? Wha
What do you mean "designed"?
What??? What do you MEAN "designed to open after 8 years"???
I have been angry since April 12th and I've reached a point where I don't even know what to feel anymore I don't even know what to tell y'all.
Like, wow, omg, movie reveals. Other than family relations, the other thing isn't exactly anything new. We've all read Midnight Crow. We saw Kaitou Corbaeu. We've been in denial until finally reaching acceptance. For me at least. And then we spend a few years bargaining, bc surely there's a good reason kaitos not in the know. That kaito has to be KID. Surely there's a reason? Right?
Right???
At this point we don't even truly know if Jii is in the know and was acting as planned out by the parents or not. Or if he's just like kaito. Tricked, lied to, played for fools. At the very least ginzo doesn't know, so there's that. Not sure how much that would help kaito when he inevitably finds out. Because he will. The fact remains that it's quite suspicious that Jii just so happen to choose to don the KID outfit and become KID to draw out toichis murderers exactly 8 years after toichis death. EXACTLY the same amount of time that was set for that trap door portrait to open to kaito.
There's a lot of implications to think about
#magic kaito#kuroba kaito#kuroba toichi#kuroba chikage#i don't remember jiis name#im still so mad i dont know what to rly do next other than just stew in the feeling#fortunately(???) one of my kinda fucked up fic idea that i scrapped kinda work perfectly with this gaslight gatekeep manipulation ass shit#rambling rambling rambling#rambles#ramblings#also no movie spoiler in tags and replies pls#i know all the spoilers#but i dont want to participate in untagged spoiler discussion on main#just keep it out of this post pls for the sake of people who somehow managed go not see any spoilers yet#im open to yap in dms tho lmao
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behold: the doomed unrequited waltonstein manifesto courtesy of twitter user ustfile
#‘would revive you if you died’ made me laugh bc. yeah#i guess you could say this is what i consider their 'canon' relationship dynamic#to put it succinctly: walton thinks he's met his soulmate#his eyes? replied to baby#margaret you don't understand he's PERFECT even though he's literally about to pass away from grief and exposure you don't UNDERSTAND#victor values walton. absolutely cares for him and thinks he's wonderful#but has literally lost the ability to Feel in the way walton wishes he would#can any man be to him as clerval was? :(#'i can't love you how you want me to' just like boygenius said#and when he tells walton as much it breaks his heart a little#because he's having fantasies of somehow curing victor and whisking him back to england and becoming his househusband#but alas#bro is in agony and victor's like 'dearest henry... is that you....'#waltonstein#robert walton#victor frankenstein#frankenstein#walton tag#sorry buddy ilysm but your romantic failure is compelling to me#doomed narrative foil yaoi YAAAAAAAAY#this was not succinct at all was it
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martinsharmony replied to your post “Another tidbit from Rob Wilkins at Ineffable Con…”
!!! I did not know that David would not let go! WHY DID I NOT KNOW THIS
@martinsharmony I don't think any of us knew! At least not besides the folks who attended Ineffable Con last year. I don't remember this ever being mentioned after the event, and I'm floored at how it somehow didn't come out until now.
And now I can't help thinking of what else we don't know about the kiss, even though so much of what we do know and have heard has already painted an incredible picture. This new information also has me thinking of Michael's comments on The Assembly with a fresh perspective...
That maybe the reason Michael and David didn't talk about it beforehand was because there was so much emotion involved. Because they both knew exactly what to do to bring what was needed to that kiss, without saying a word. And that the reason they don't talk about it now is because they both already know exactly what it meant, to the characters and to themselves.
For my part, I would've thought for certain that it would be Michael who couldn't let go. But David. David is like the dark horse that no one ever saw coming...and yet somehow this feels so much like him, like what we have seen before with David more often expressing himself through actions than words. David, who very possibly knows too well what it's like to have such powerful feelings pent up for so long, feelings that he could only pour out into one beautiful, sorrowful, perfectly imperfect kiss.
And that also makes me think of something else David said about the kiss, about the most difficult part being other people's awkwardness. The kiss kept going and going, and David wouldn't let go, and maybe that's what others were seeing. The reason why he wouldn't let go. That there was something so deeply intimate happening between him and Michael--beyond the physical--and in that moment, there was no hiding it or disguising it or playing it off as a joke. Maybe David wouldn't let go because somewhere along the way, he stopped acting and started being, just the same way that Michael did five years ago with Aziraphale.
So yes, I am very much blown away by what we've learned today, almost exactly a year after seeing the kiss in GO 2. I can only imagine what we'll continue to find out in the weeks, months, and years ahead...
#martinsharmony#reply post#good omens 2#michael sheen#welsh seduction machine#david tennant#soft scottish hipster gigolo#kissing#my heart is shattered and somehow rebuilt at the same time#mutual wanting#in and out of character#but we can now see how their connection informed the relationship between Aziraphale and Crowley#and it was that and so much more#and i truly believe that at least part of the reason they want to keep doing it is because of each other#unexpected llamas#part three#they are perfect together your honor#we should all be so lucky to find our Other Person#i don't know if i believe in fate but i believe in them#ineffable lovers#discourse#gifs by me
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See, regardless the intention with the new Nosferatu what I see over and over especially on Twitter with -no joke- over 400,000 likes are posts about how all this happened because Thomas was way too invested in getting a promoyion instead of staying home and fucking his wife
I mean, it's hard to have sex with your wife if you don't have a home. just saying.
Really, though, the victim blaming going on with these takes makes me so frustrated. Even IF we ignore that Orlok already knows Ellen and feels entitled to her, even IF we ignore that he is doggedly determined (now that she's married to someone else) to show up and reclaim her for good - Thomas. Had. No. Choice.
Not to rant at you, anon, just using your ask to go off on this narrative.
The thing is - Thomas is already in debt at the start. That it's to his friend doesn't matter to Thomas. Honestly it might make the debt seem even worse. He is indebted to Harding financially, he and Ellen are not off to the most secure start, he's already been away for a while due to the honeymoon - this actually is vitally important for them. He needs his job. He was already late - if he hadn't been so late or hadn't realized it, he likely would have stayed home longer. But he couldn't. Then when he's offered this big, lucrative deal, he can't refuse it. Knock commenting about 'if you close this sale, you're job is guaranteed' isn't just tempting him with success, it's also threatening him with failure.
What happens if Ellen relapses and they're destitute? What happens if Ellen is having her seizures again, the sleepwalking, the melancholy, what if it gets worse? Ellen of course is still in the sweet honeymoon phase and thinks that love will be enough to stave those things off because so far Thomas' mere presence and affection has worked. But the thing is, that high is going to come back down. It happens in even the most wholesome and genuine of relationships, and stress - especially financial stress - will not do them any favors. Will not do her and her mental health and her attempts to keep her bond with Orlok suppressed any good whatsoever. I mean, that's basically what is happening in the film. The more they struggle financially, the more desperate things get, the greater the fissures and cracks that form in their marriage, giving Orlok more opportunity to come in and use it against them. Which is quite literally what he does. Thomas staying home, refusing the job, etc., only changes the how and when.
Ellen doesn't quite get it because based on what we know of her background and her father, she's never struggled to make ends meet, she's struggled with wealth and status being used against her. Of course she comes at this from the angle of 'being in a wealthy household didn't protect me', which Thomas can't understand. Neither can Ellen understand Thomas' perspective of being in debt to someone, worrying about failing to provide. I don't think it's simply that Thomas wants to make Ellen comfortable and have a life like she used to - he quite literally is worried that he cannot provide for her at all, especially if she gets sick (mentally or physically).
Like, Thomas in the 2024 movie isn't solely and completely driven by financial success - if you contrast him in the film with how Eggers originally wrote him in the 2016 script or how he's portrayed in the 2023 remake, this Thomas comes across to be more of the mindset that 'having financial success and being of similar standing to Ellen and Friedrich will make everything fine and I will be good enough to deserve her love and his friendship.' The driving factors are really that Thomas a) wants everything to be will for him and Ellen and b) wants to live up to the rigid societal standards of his gender. He's insecure, and he's overcompensating. Which isn't great but is a relatively normal character flaw, and certainly isn't one that is so inherently damning. His love and concern for Ellen still factor into things. He's not turning into a money-obsessed, toxic masculinity-minded asshole or something of the sort. That's why as soon as he's no longer naive to this darkness in the world - the things that Ellen has known of all along - his motivation shifts entirely to protecting Ellen. He understands now that unfortunately, in this rigged, supernatural game they're all trapped in, money means nothing. Money can't save Harding and his family, it certainly won't save Thomas and Ellen. But even IF he had known that all along - it wouldn't have made a difference.
Thomas and Ellen still need to live, Thomas would have to leave for work, and would have to take that job that sends him over to Transylvania. And if somehow they could circumvent that? Orlok still would find a way to separate them. Orlok would still come to Wisburg. Thomas is not the hero in this story, he's the damsel in distress, and unfortunately for him, while he gets to make it out alive, the actual hero who saves the day does not. Thomas loses his wife, but that is not his fault. It's not his fault he got assaulted, traumatized, left for dead, and it's not his fault he couldn't save Ellen. It's not his fault she died.
Ellen was doomed long before she met him, and that wasn't her fault, either.
anyway, all this to say - I'm glad I'm not on twitter. I'm glad I can block people with these takes.
#theirwolf replies#anonymous#anyway sorry anon if this seemed like I was going off on you I was not#I just needed to get some things off my chest#I was ranting with you not at you#considering the people I already have blocked I am more than likely just preaching to the choir but#guess I needed to preach#Thomas Hutter consistently fails at living up to the ideals of his gender and that is why he is precious#he also never takes this out on Ellen; yes he is dismissive early on but not unkindly#his comment about the doctors even indicates imo that he's saying this for her benefit as much as his#he is trying to help her avoid behaviors that could make things worse#it isn't his fault that mental health at the time sucked horrendously and was vastly misunderstood#and 2024 was a lot kinder and more nuanced - in the 2016 version Ellen actually DOES blame Thomas for things#(partially because Ellen herself never summoned Orlok somehow Orlok found out about her on his own)#this is something Eggers removed thankfully#idk like heaven forbid he want to keep a roof over their heads and food on the table and maybe make something of himself#it's like ladykatibeth said on the subject - very 'stay in your place' victim-blamey classism#which is just YIKES imo#it's one thing to not like him or think he was a bad husband or boring or whatever#it's the victim-blaming that makes me so angry#it's ignoring what is literally in the canon text#Ellen summoned him and Thomas went on that trip and neither of them are at fault for the CENTURIES OLD UNDEAD NOBLEMAN'S ACTIONS#Thomas Hutter#Nosferatu 2024
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actually a big problem i have with romantic tacopad is that people don't even get them platonically. people don't really care about them on a platonic aspect and it shows. ouhhhh yeah yeah you like them kissing but do you actually get their thing outside of that???? do you get why mepad wants to help her? why he cares about her? why they actually work? and also do you care about mepad as a character? i think you just want to kiss taco and project onto the guy like no WAY everyone just suddenly likes tacopad because they actually get the ship
#tacopad neg#i am. open to romantic tacopad if it works out somehow on canon#but my stance on every taco ship is that she doesn't need nor want a romantic relationship. she's not on the right mental place to do that#and also genuinely if you have a taco bias just. don't reply to this post. i don't care#i am just thinking on stuff and it is kind of sad that tacopad could've been an complex ship but nope it is just people projecting cause uh#they want to kiss taco 👍 or just like the whole taco is a girlboss thing#if you DO get them platonically this post isn't about you 👍#genuinely it is awesome that you do and we need more peeps like you however this is about people who don't do that
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Ahahaaaa oh my goddd can you not make "ADHD undereating" and "ADHD overeating" into a competition of who has it worse and who has nothing to complain about, that'd be awesome
#im not even going to reply to that person im not gonna argue with someone who clearly is fucking#grading my symptoms on if they're as bad as their#guess what i also feel like fucking shit when i overeat and it causes my body a lot of stress#and it fucks with my hormones and it fucks with my mood#and i live a piece of shit horrible terrible life whenever I can't get myself out of that and somehow#but my brain makes me do it and it's hard to stop and sometimes i have to eat even when im in pain#cause that's the only way i can concentrate on something or the only way that i can stimulate my brain#even though i feel sick and I don't want to do it anymore so maybe shut the fuck up#oh my godddd#fuck that person#oh i would take overeating any day maybe shut the fuck upppp#overeating especially on foods that stimulate the brain well PUTS YOU IN THE STATE OF UNDERNUTRITION JUST LIKE UNDEREATING#YOU IDIOTTTTT#sorry this is so personal to me and someone just went on a tirade on how much they have it worse cause they don't eat#good lord go fuck yourself#that post was just because i never see anyone talk about this i only ever see the other side of the coin and it makes me feel alone
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The unmistakable sound of footsteps approaching begins to fill the air. Whoever is coming seems to have brought some company along…
They are getting closer… and closer… and closer…
…and closer…
……until..................
"Goooooood evenin'!!" Comes the loud greeting from a certain blond man. A big smile on his face and all.
"We beg your pardon for our prolonged absence. It was completely beyond our control..." Then adds the gentleman standing by his side, apologizing on behalf of both, offering a genuine smile along with the apology.
"...BUT! We're back!" And hopefully for good this time…
#[HI HIIIIIII~~ HOW'S EVERYONE DOING?? 8)]#[IDK IF ANYONE REMEMBERS ME OR MY MUSES ANYMORE?? BUT HELLOOO]#[one million years later but we're backkkkkk]#[i'd like to start by apologizing for completely disappearing for months without any announcement]#[life has been far from kind all this year so far and this has greatly and negatively impacted me emotionally]#[like..very VERY badly (harmful stuff and etc)]#[all to a point where i've had to take some time off from most social media]#[and which is also why i haven't checked or replied to any messages anywhere in a while]#[not that i'm the most social and most active person ever but you get what i mean here ;v;]#[the original plan was to come back here like a month or so ago but as you can guess i was unable to due to the same irl issues]#[i'm not gonna lie i'm still not doing well]#[but i wanted to come back or at least try to]#[since writing for these two and the ogre street guys always brings me joy and i also missed everyone here!]#[i'm still unsure if dropping threads will be the way to go for now or not#because i have no idea if my partners are still interested in any threads we had prior my unannounced hiatus]#[or if anyone's still interested in interacting with me and my muses again ;v;]#[so if we have ongoing threads i'll likely be jumping into your IMs over the course of the days to ask about it]#[i just need to check my thread tracker first because i can't remember what i owed last time ;;;;;;]#[as always: we can start new stuff any time in case you're no longer feeling whatever threads we had]#[and we can also start from scratch if that's best too]#[so no worries there!]#[enough blablah from me for now]#[i missed you all so much!]#[and to the new followers this blog somehow earned in my absence: Hi!! Thank you for following and I hope we can interact soon!!]#[hope everyone has been doing great during my absence!! <3]#;speedwagon says (( ic ))#;jonathan says (( ic ))#;ic#(??#;speedwagon withdraws coolly
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my reply speed has been awful as of late because i'm terribly busy preparing the perfect valentines date ( this is a lie i don't have a valentine i just don't have a valid excuse for my brain acting like it's constipated ) but maybe i will go to your inboxes to stir up trouble
#ooc.#no words? no writing? no money? no prospects?#its this feeling of not being happy with the quality of what i do put out there#somehow it feels bland? and not true to the headcanons and the interpretation i have of my muses#like im not doing what i want to do to really showcase hey here are my thoughts behind this reply#here is the reason he said this and here is the reason he did that#im not saying this in a sad way btw.#i'm just like. eh. whenever i look at what i wrote.#like i said just feels bland to ME so.#that's why it takes me 50 years to reply now because. in a bit of a writers block era i fear.#and i rewrite stuff like 20 times to be happy with it.#i get random little bursts of inspo that ping pongs between ren and my multi like#ren then lg then ren then wwx then ren then kayn then ren then vein then ren then cxs then ren then samatoki then ren then ronan then ren#you get it#give me a few days and i'll go into inboxes meanwhile bc those are easy and fun.
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google how to stop swooning every time an older woman shows the slightest bit of assertiveness
#for context i’d texted Her today thanking her for the ride to [redacted] & saying that i hoped she wouldn’t get into any awkward situations#b/c of me if somehow her coworkers saw me in the passenger seat & jumped to conclusions—& i told her she didn't have to drop me off#anymore in case it created problems for her in her workplace (which has a high chance of occurring) & she just replied w/#“i'll drop you off again tomorrow.” like woahhhg . can you **** ** ***** *** *** **** ** ** **** * *** *****#like !!!! not even “do you want me to drop you off tomorrow?” or “i could drop you off tomorrow” or “it's not a problem” just#“i'll drop you off again tomorrow.” so what she's saying is fuck them i'll do it again. like. mmfhhhhhshsggghggh 🥰🥰🥰😩😩😩#মৃণাল
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idk man im sure therapy is helpful for a lot of people and for a bit in those years where i wasn't in therapy i thought it would be helpful for me but every time i go back to it it just kind of sucks. i don't think im built for it
#is this the best experience ive had with it? yeah but that's not saying much#my childhood experiences especially SUCKED#this is. fine. too expensive. but fine.#i go there every week and say some stuff and get some whatever replies.#and i go out of it feeling fine. drained but fine#and then a couple of days pass and i think ''god i hate therapy'' and it just repeats#but like. whatever. im going.#it's fine. it's maybe mildly helpful#it's not helping me with what my mother wants it to help me with. but whatever#it IS very funny when my therapist is like ''this is about you and it's between you and me. your mother isn't involved''#no rachel she very much IS involved. sorry.#i don't know how exactly she's involved myself but rest assured that somehow my therapy decisions will be about her.#anyway im not as big a therapy hater as i might appear#you all just catch me in the therapy hating phase#persimmon's rambles
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@shadowsceptered here's the starter for normal verse!
"This?" Shadow looks to the scepter in his hands, then up to Mephiles. He doesn't know why, exactly, but knows something about it is familiar. Every time Mephiles shows himself Shadow can remember who and when and what he is, but there are still things that come and go...seems like the scepter is a missing piece of the puzzle. Whatever Shadow once did with this, it's obviously been a pain point for the half-god. "No, I'll be holding onto it."
#i saw in your wishlist you wanted threads w the scepter so i thought why not have one revolving around it somehow#not quite the same ofc but. KJHFSDJHD#shadowsceptered#oh also since ur back in dont forget to check out the reply i managed to get for you from that thing u posted for me back in like october!!#ic.
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Meow there and Good Morning 💛💛💛💛
Today is the day 🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳💛💛💛
Happy T-Day 💛💛💛💛💛💛💛🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳
Happy one year on T. 🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳
Happy first year on T 🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳
Thank you so much Jay !!! How has it already been a year I don't understand :'D
For today let me share this silly little video I made using pictures of me with all the lovely bandmembers + their crew I met over this year (including H thrice) as an alternative way to show my transition :3
#I felt like you might like it :3#and also I wanted to share it somehow xD#one year#wow#time flies#transgender#transmasc#medical transition#hrt#testosterone#käärijä#häärijä#jere pöyhönen#bojan cvjetićanin#jan peteh#nace jordan#jo spring tour 2024#sys tour 2024#joker out see you soon tour 2024#my gig#malmö gig#gothenburg gig#böle gig#backas gig#hamburg gig#käärijä eurotour 2024#replies
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@rebelscythe123 this is for u <3
Loooots and lots of spoilers for everything caiowe for anyone reading this btw
Ok so a lot of cain's roles in the narrative focuses on him sacrificing himself. He's a knight so he should put his life in danger to protect others. He's a sage's wizard so he should, again, put himself in life-threatening danger to save the world. He is arthur's personal knight so, you guessed it, he should protect arthur at all costs, including himself. He's so kind and sweet and he made being a shield to others his meaning of life <3. This isn't a good thing, duh. He has no sense for self preservation and is very suicidal, maybe not in the depressed way, but in the extremely willing to throw his life away way. Like, in central ballad, he immediately puts himself between akira and oz throwing a rampage KNOWING ozzy can instant kill him, accidentally or not. And in central prelude, he also just throws himself at a beast with no consideration for his own safety.
Now, owen. Owen is the complete opposite of cain. If cain is generally puppy sunshine who's willing to die for anyone, then owen is depressed and thorny and puts his own survival above anyone and anything else.
Owen is the first person in cain's life that DOESN'T require cain to sacrifice anything for him. If anything, owen is the first person to offer cain something. Freedom. Cain, up until that point, had to keep himself hidden away. Now of course, owen defeating cain and stealing his eyeball was very traumatizing for cain, but it ends up in a net positive development for him because he doesn't have to hide anymore. I think cain even thanks him for it eventually. And another thing owen offers cain is a goal to strive towards. Now that owen has defeated him, cain has to work hard and train himself to become a better wizard. Wait i have two screenshots from anni2 that kinda


Just. Them. Ugh.
Now back onto owen, obviously everyone knows that owen latched himself onto cain because baby owen was locked up in a basement with nothing but a picture book with a knight. And cain is number one picture perfect knight. But another thing to consider about owen's character is that....kizu owen isn't owen himself, he isn't the real owen, he is just a trauma holder for owen's past memories. Wait holup i have more screenshots somewhere surely.


Yeah like in north ballad, owen wants to cure his injury because he wants to stay as himself. He's no longer the helpless small child calling out for anyone to save him, he crawled outta that hell himself, he saved himself, he's strong now. I don't like the way people treat kizu owen as the "real owen" or whatever because that kid just straight up isn't, i like the idea of the real self of a traumatized character is the self that overcame the trauma, not the one haunted by it.
And for kizu owen, anyone could have been kizu owen's knight in shining armor, as we see in ms2, where he sticks to oz like glue instead of cain. This fucks up cain severely. Because the reason why cain stuck to owen is because of his kizu self. Because his kizu self straight up says things like "save me" and "don't leave me alone" and what could a knight like cain do but respond? Yeah sure there's this other real owen that's a brutal murderer but let's ignore that for now because see! There's this other him calling out for help! And all of cain's identity is helping others despite the risks so trying to help kizu owen in spite of real owen potentially hurting him is such a cain thing to do.
But kizu owen will stick to anyone willing to respond. He's not a person. He's doesn't form bonds. He doesn't learn. He's just a trauma holder. In ms1, even when cain shows him over and over again that the door is open and it isn't locked and you can literally open the door, you aren't trapped, i wouldn't do that to you, kizu owen still ends up scratching and hitting at the door because he👏doesn't👏learn👏or👏move👏on. That's his thing. It doesn't matter to him if it's cain who is protecting him or if it's oz, he wants anyone.
And now cain is feeling like shit because arthur doesn't need him, owen doesn't need him, his knights don't need him, nobody needs or chooses specifically cain for anything, he has no space to exist. This is why he changes himself 180 degrees in ms2 because in his mind it's "well manipulating people is something only i can do so i will sacrifice myself and all of my morals for it." Are you. Are you seeing it yet?
BUT who does end up choosing cain specifically, over and over again? Owen. The real owen. He goes and fetches arthur aaaaall the way from central country to check up on cain. And ms2 isn't the only instance for this. He teaches cain magic and then later also prays his name in anni1. Owen ends up helping cain even when oz gave up on him in the knights event. Hell, even in central prelude, the only reason cain is alive is because owen's eyeball protected him. I don't remember where but i think there was once a convo between owen and mithra where mithra was like "that guy will take a 1000 years before he gets on your level" and owen was like "i'll wait". Owen WANTS to see cain grow, he wants to see him succeed.
Owen is the only character in the narrative that pushes cain to grow, cain is the only character in the narrative that pushes owen to see the world for what it is instead of the traumatized version he is holding onto.
All in all, caiowe is an EXTREMELY HEALTHY relationship, they literally make each other better, they just need a lot of communication, and they deserve each other, and i love them <3
#Hands up for the “owen should make cain his disciple” agenda#This ended up a lot longer than i wanted#cain knightley#owen mahoyaku#Cain barely over two decades and somehow manages to be so concerning that famed sadomasochist 1200 y.o. murderer is worried for him#Cain ily ♡#Edit: forgot to mention that for arthur's birthday line cain straight up tells arthur that he would immediately jump off-#a roof and die if arthur ordered him to. Cain bby what happened to “happy birthday”#Arthur replies that he would do the same btw. When the besties are mentally ill in the same way ♡
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dearly beloved we are gathered here today because i am wondering what drew you to tomarrymort in the first place?
#feel free to rb or reply#i think for me it was the being parallels of each other#no one will ever truly understand them but the other#one wants love so badly and the other is said to never be able to know it#fated in so many ways#belonging to each other is inescapable when you share a soul#i also really liked the somehow knows exactly what the other needs and is the only one who can give it to each other#there's a constant tragedy and sometimes somehow they overcome it#tomarry#harrymort#tomarrymort
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Hi! Reading your fics, which are mainly post canon, I was wondering... do you ever imagine gahan getting married and talking about kids (besides Elijah, of course) or do you think they would just stick to each other's company and that would be enough?
Personally, I love the ideia of Yo Han being able to raise a child in a fully open loving way, without the restrictions he had to put on Elijah (we saw a few glimpses of how he used to be with her before the fire). After 10 year in anger and in chase for revenge, Yo Han deserves some peace, I wonder if he ever considerated a child as part of it (we can't forget his own childhood). Knowing how deep he can love someone, it feels such a loss not being able to have a person that only knows him for that, openly, without the mask he used to put on in front Ga On and Elijah (i don't know if you'll get what I mean lol).
I'd just love to know your personal's head canon for that 😅 Since, for me, you're so good in thinking as Yo Han.
I imagine that they will, yes — in most scenarios I can think of. I mean, granted, the marriage can obviously never happen in South Korea (and not only because Yo Han is officially dead) but I think they'd definitely end up building an even bigger family somewhere down the line.
As I've touched on in Who Holds the Devil, I think that Ga On 100% wants kids. And, let's face it, he'd be such a good dad. But, that said, he would never force Yo Han to want kids since... well, that's not very like Ga On, is it? He wouldn't want to do that to Yo Han or the kid/kids.
So, in the end, the decision on whether or not they end up getting kids lies with Yo Han. And, as with many of my theories, I think his answer depends on when he would be asked that question. Like, during canon? I think he'd say no, without a moment's hesitation. Or on pure reflex might be a better way of putting it. Because, at that point in his life? He wouldn't consider kids to be something for him. He's so defensive, so convinced of his own darkness, and also well aware of how poorly he treated Elijah.
He did his best — but that's also the problem. Even his best left the child in his care to become a bitter, isolated teenager with little to no social skills. He'd no doubt be convinced that he'd only fuck up again if he was ever in charge of raising another child. So why bother? Clearly, it's not for him. And not fair to the child, either.
But after he gets settled with Ga On? Especially a year or two down the line? After they've dealt with the majority of the guilt and trauma and gotten comfortable? And Yo Han has softened even more? And gets to have a stable, loving home environment for the first time in his life?
Then his opinion would most likely change, especially once he starts suspecting that Ga On wants kids. Because Yo Han, as we all know, can't deny Ga On anything. That's not to say that he would agree immediately, though.
Quite the opposite.
He'd have to think about it a lot before reaching a conclusion. Because I think he'd panic a bit at first. Like, when he first realises that Ga On wants kids? That's terrifying. Because, again, up until that point I think Yo Han has just decided that kids aren't for him. And his first instinct won't be to reevaluate if that decision has changed, but rather feel a kneejerk rush of: "That's not something I can give him. I'm going to have to crush his dream of having children. I'm going to make him miserable."
And Yo Han would feel terrible.
But then, thankfully, his rational side would kick in and try to straighten out what's actually going on. As in, Yo Han would ask himself if he might just have changed his mind about kids now that he has a stable partner — especially one who balances and complements him as well as Ga On does. Maybe kids aren't out of reach anymore?
But even once Yo Han realises that, yeah, he might actually want kids after all — at least if it's with Ga On — he'd also have to overcome the fear that he'll fuck them up as much as he accidentally ruined Elijah. But, again, it helps to know that Ga On would be there, making sure that Yo Han doesn't go overboard with the protectiveness. Ga On wouldn't let Yo Han hurt another child like he hurt Elijah.
Yo Han would also have to figure out how a child would change his relationship with Ga On, their relationship with Elijah, and their existence overall. And he'd have to overcome that quiet, simmering fear at the back of his mind that he might turn out to be like his father.
Yo Han is good at thinking on his feet and can obviously be spontaneous and unpredictable when needed, but I think he'd approach "Do I want kids?" like it's one of his schemes. He'd collect data, meticulously structure his thoughts, weigh pros and cons, plot and plan, and, finally, reach a conclusion.
Because having a child — starting a family — would be huge for Yo Han.
I mean, he obviously already has a family, but it's one that Yo Han didn't have all that much input in? Miss Ji is there because his father hired her. Yo Han became Elijah's guardian due to incredibly tragic circumstances and because there was no one else who could take her. Ga On came into his life because of Jung Sun Ah's machinations, and was intended to be a weapon against him.
But having a child? Choosing to have a child? And build a bigger family with Ga On? That's no small thing.
And, for the best result, I think Yo Han should probably be left alone with that thought for literal months to have time to work through his own thoughts and feelings on the matter before he and Ga On ever broach the subject. If they do it too soon, Yo Han could get defensive and start deflecting without meaning to, which would no doubt make Ga On backtrack and just... resign himself to the idea that Yo Han clearly doesn't want kids. Because Ga On, too, knows that Yo Han can't deny him anything and he'd be afraid that if he pushes too hard — or shows how much he wants kids — Yo Han might feel forced to agree. So Ga On would rather pull back and drop the subject instead of feeling like he's making too many demands.
But once Yo Han has thought it through? And realises that, yes, he wants kids?
Then he's all-in in that way only Kang Yo Han can be.
He'd still be terrified from time to time, of course — because he did grow up thinking he was a monster and that will resurface when he's got tiny humans to take care of — but oh man he'd love those kids with every fibre of his being. And I totally agree that it would be so, so wonderful to see him do that, without having to hold back or be afraid of being seen as soft or weak (as he no doubt did with Elijah).
All he has to do is love them.
My personal headcanon (i.e. this is something I'm choosing to believe because I want to, since I'm not sure what Yo Han would actually think) is that Yo Han wouldn't want those kids to be his biological ones, though. I think that, somewhere deep down, he'd be scared they'd turn out like him. That whatever it is that makes him so vicious and different would be hereditary. So he'd prefer the kids to be adopted or, even better, Ga On's.
Like, just imagine how much Yo Han would love to have miniature Ga Ons running around?
He'd practically combust from happiness.
(but he would obviously love the kids either way — Yo Han, if anyone, knows that chosen family is more important than blood relations)
So yeah! I totally agree that they'll get a kid/kids sometime in the future. It just feels like the kind of family that both Ga On and Yo Han would want considering their childhoods and how lonely and isolated they've both been. Ga On is the one who expresses a longing for family the most, but it's clear that Yo Han wants that, too. And I think there's something very beautiful in it being their choice to start that family? Something they're creating together because they want to?
They deserve that love and peace.
But it would take a while for them to reach that point, since it's such a big decision and there would be a lot of heightened emotions involved. And they would also have to spend a lot of time preparing Elijah for it, to make sure she doesn't feel neglected or replaced. But, hopefully, she's had enough therapy and matured enough by that point that she'll eventually come around. She'd of course be wary at first and perhaps a little snappish from time to time, until she realises that, sure, there are more kids in the house now, but her relationship with both Yo Han and Ga On is still unique and they're not abandoning her.
And once they reach that stage?
It'll turn into a full-time job to keep Elijah from a) spoiling the kids rotten, b) undermining all of the hard work they (but mostly Ga On) put into teaching the kids about rules and responsibility, and c) kidnapping the kids and holding them for ransom whenever Yo Han makes her angry and she wants to punish him. Complete with a hostage-like exchange once he caves and eventually apologises — which sometimes requires Ga On's intervention because he would like his kids back now, thank you very much, so suck it up and just apologise, Mr. Abyss.
They'd be a wonderful little family and deliriously happy, in other words.
#Amethystina Replies#Anonymous#The Devil Judge#Honestly#I'm amazed by the timing of some of you people#Because the next chapter of Who Holds the Devil is going to be addressing this topic again#Not in super great detail perhaps#But a certain birthday girl is going to make an appearance#And it'll remind Ga On of all those thoughts he had about kids and wanting a family#And it's going to somehow be an even bigger mess now that he's rejected Yo Han#Like#Ga On is going to have to face the fact that whatever family he wants to have WON'T be with Yo Han#HE has made it so that it won't be with Yo Han#And then has to pretend he's totally fine with that#Good luck with that Ga On#Also#The thought of Ga On trying to swallow down his disappointment#And ignore how his heart just broke a little#(a LOT)#If he's ever led to believe that Yo Han doesn't want kids is EXCRUCIATING#Which is why I refuse to even entertain that idea#For once I just want them to reach the conclusion in a safe and happy way#Let's just let them be happy
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Guys what’s that one obscure fic you read years ago that you still think about now??
#tell me in tags or reply#whatever u want bbg#mine is this one shinbaku fic i read in 2020#it was so good#because it didn’t soften either of the characters but somehow their romantic scene were so sweet
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