#but i could see her having some genuine respect for chef and vice versa

[totalswagisland]

chef hatchet and eva mentor & mentee relationship would be so fucking powerful

[beauspot]

ok. you are entitled to your opinion, but i feel like i gotta add my two cents.

I think you’re conflating a lot of things that shouldn’t be. Personally, I believe that Carmy did think Syd was attractive the first time he met her, but that moment could be read as him being surprised Syd is a woman at all since Sydney is an androgynous name. And if that’s when he hired her there wouldn’t be an issue with that. the act of finding somebody attractive doesn’t have to impede your judgement. Like you said Sydney is extremely capable, the first time we meet her Carmy is explaining how stacked her résumé is.

Now you’ll notice I said if he hired her then. Because he didn’t. He invited her to stage before he ever saw her face.

Then we have to address the way you view their relationship. I’m not understanding why you think that the respect in Sydcarmy’s relationship would go away if they were romantically involved. All good relationships are built off mutual respect, whether that be platonic or romantic.

The professionalism bit I suppose could be a good argument, but if you ask anyone who’s ever worked in a kitchen, they will tell you nearly all employees date each other. I guess what you might mean is that since Carmy is her “boss”, it would pose an issue that way. But we can clearly see through the show that Sydney does whatever the fuck she wants. Sydney is not afraid to tell Carmy about himself, and vice versa. Being attracted to someone doesn’t mean you can’t genuinely compliment them or criticize them.

You can separate your personal feelings from your job.

I understand the fear that if the relationship doesn’t work out Sydney will be getting the brunt of the backlash but…have you seen the reddit for this show? People already hate Sydney. There is not a single show I can think of where the fans won’t demonize the (darkskin) black woman, that’s not something you can prevent, so I don’t think that’s a good enough reason to say they shouldn’t be together.

The show (so far) has treated its black characters very well and they didn’t allow Carmy to be an angst white boy who refuses to grow and work through his trauma, no matter how much some fans might want that. For now I am giving this crew my trust. TENTATIVELY.

If you personally don’t want romance in a show that’s fine, but to act like black women aren’t always “the best friend” in shows, especially when they are playing opposite a white lead is a bit….

Like all we ever get to be is the friend, the shoulder to cry on, the late night booty call. To see a black woman who is relatively center stage get to be loved is not something we get to see often and something that would be great. This isn’t the same “white female lead has to end up with the white male lead because they are boy and girl”. Black women never get those stories. It gets frankly a bit annoying to see a black woman in media and want her to have a romance just for the team behind her say “she is strong and independent.” “that’s going to cheapen the show.”

I don’t think any Chefs Kiss fans are saying love can “save” anybody. I’m not saying no one is saying that, but everyone i’ve personally seen wants a long slow burn for Carmy and Syd. They both clearly have issues they need to work through for any romantic relationship to work and last.

Also idk how you see chemistry between Marcus and Syd but not Carmy and Syd? Yes she invites him into her home but…she also refuses his help on multiple occasions. Whereas with Carmy she directly asks for it, something she would only do with someone she trusts not to belittle her. Also yeah I guess she did invite Marcus in her home for a meal but they talk about Carmy for most of it. I’m genuinely convinced people only see chemistry between Marcus and Sydney, because they’re both black.

They have nothing else in common. Sydney is always posed as Marcus mentor, so is Carmy. As opposed to Carmy and Syd who are constantly framed by the show as equals. And if we’re talking about cooking as intimacy, Carmy and Sydney have multiple scenes where they are simply cooking and speaking to one another. Or tasting each others food. All of those small scenes add up. Awhile ago I made a post about one scene in episode 5 i think where they play impossible germany and break down how the lyrics relate to them, just as one example.

i’m not trying to change your mind, if you don’t see them together that’s cool. i genuinely appreciate you taking the time to respond without being rude.

can someone who is anti sydney and carmy explain why? and no your reason can’t be “why can’t men and women be friends?” especially if you ship syd with somebody else. no judgment. i really want to know why people are so against it.