#but here they are being serious about it and it’s disgusting behaviour frankly
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I just seen the pet Foolish thing on my dash again. So yeah I’m gonna have an opinion about it again.
The pet joke has and never will be funny.
Dapper essentially will just be comparing Foolish to an animal since he collects animals/mobs, which is wrong on so many levels. Then Sunny is also calling him an item, because he looked like money. Like they just dehumanise Foolish on so many levels all the time and it’s just not funny. Especially when he’s not there to defend himself.
I watched the entire conversation about it too and Bad says as long as everyone is okay with it when sunny said “pa said i could keep him”. Not that Foolish agreed to it, because he never did. That as long as everyone else is okay with it yet not Foolish. Because Foolish said if and when he got a mansion from them that he might consider agreeing to it, straight to Sunny’s face. Before that he was heavily disagreeing to the entire idea.
It’s literally just makes me feel so disgusted by others who make those types of jokes about Foolish or let them slide. To the point where I don’t want Foolish to interact with those people and some of them I actually enjoy watching. But every time I hear one of those jokes I just get so disgusted by them. Seriously do they no realise what they’re implying??
#didnt wanna say it at first bc i feel like sometimes people are harsh on the admins but like come on this joke is just not it#i was really hoping it would be forgotten about after the first time but like just ughh#bc i can’t remember if anyone else has made those jokes to another person on qsmp but its if they have its always been different bc its -#been a one stream bit that wasn’t actually being serious#but here they are being serious about it and it’s disgusting behaviour frankly#like i dont care about it being the eggs rp bc at some point the admins have to realise when something isnt funny#qsmp neg
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in the wake of the recent drama situations going on and my head being on many places about it. i think i finally have something proper to add and say.
i haven't been on billy hargrove tumblr for many personal reasons that made me feel discouraged. no drama in particular, beef with everyone or me experiencing abuse. my own neurodivergent non english speaking brain process everything differently to the point i remain a loner. is a complex matter but that's another story.
last year i made my original personal blog archieved and left it as many types of crap went on my life and i stopped engaging on billy tumblr/tumblr in general the same way i used to.
with that said, i tried finding a place on discord for the gaps this site left on me, main ones were billy brainrot and roleplay lol.
during this period, i was actively talking to one of the two people who have been called out ror many messy horrible things like transphobia and manipulation.
the name of that person is masha, as far as i'm understanding she's been criticized for her patterns of hostility and TERF vibes. we, along with two more friends, whom i still talk to, related on the things that made us feel discouraged on billy tumblr and it was one of the things that joined us together. it frankly saddens me to see how all of our original purposes have been overshadowed thanks to masha's toxic traits.
she was the one who introduced me to apple's server, that had a great start but sooner i'd start to feel the clique-like manipulative vibes that many people are bringing on apple's toxic traits.
while neither of them did some serious direct harm in the way they did to others, at least two of them being my friends too whom i reached privately and i apologized for not seeing the red flags sooner. i stand with them and everyone who is bringing both of them to rightful questioning and to call them out of their disgusting behaviour.
i won't associate with people that are manipulative, transphobic, narcissistic and clout chasers. i deeply regret giving them the benefit of doubt and investing my time to offer them my friendship, that i took their word above what it was truly going on behind closed doors. this is why i decided to cut ties with masha from my all my mutual lists. here's to hope they get help and heal to grow doing better in a future.
my thoughts go with all the people on this community that are talking about this.
i don't know if i'll come back to post stuff about billy, harringrove or ST related in the way i used to back in 2022, as i find out i'm safer playing in my own little sandbox while talking to whoever that genuinely is interested in me or what i have to offer.
however, my support and solidarity is with all of you 🩶
#fandom wank#harringrove#fandom discourse#billy tumblr#applewillowstone#cheri talks 🎀#billy-byers#flashwaves
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Adding to this (if that's ok) from a second person's perspective who deals with emetophobia in their life (OP if this is not okay with you or triggering, then tell me and I'll take it down):
Being really REALLY careful with food. This includes but is not limited to:
- checking the best before date on EVERYTHING before buying it, opening it and eating it (yes, all three)
- avoiding snacks/sweets/anything your parents ever tell you you might get sick from as a kid
- avoid trying new foods because you might have an allergy you don't know about yet (even if you don't have any food allergies at all)
- avoid food that you heard somewhere can cause digestion problems, such as dried fruit, very spicy things, beans
- when something has been open longer than it should, I had the hardest time to try it. Even though I knew most fooda are completely fine for a while after the best before date. It took me years to learn that trying a bit of yoghurt to see if it's ok won't make me sick even if it's not
- having a terrible time in restaurants or ordering food because you don't know what's in there, what if it's disgusting but you still have to eat it and then because it tastes so bad it will make you sick and...
It also means some really irrational "rules" like op mentioned this four day rule. I feel this on a spiritual level. For me it extends to foods as well. Whenever I'm sick I NEED to find the reason so I can avoid it in the future. If there is no apparent reason I WILL make one up that's remotely plausible because if I don't I find myself in a constant spiral of "if this happened randomly once it might happen again".
I was extremely avoidant of physical intimacy and afraid of dating someone, because that would be a completely unknown factor in my acoidance pattern. It would be a person I kissed and shared a bed with, meaning I would very possibly get any illness they get. So if they are not as avoidant of sick people as me and caught something I couldn't do anything and that was terrifying.
People vomiting in shows and movies can be really upsetting too.
It's also maybe interesting that I am EXTREMELY ashamed of this fear. I feel like it's the most childish thing to be afraid of. It's a normal body response, why is this so upsetting to me? Also, no one LIKES it, but apparently everyone else doesn't make a big deal out of it, only me. It took me a long time (and a lot of therapy) to get to a point where I can talk to people about this and stand up for myself and say "this is a phobia I have, it's severely impacting my life and I want you to take me serious about this".
At the same time I still can't believe that this is a topic like any other for most people. How do they do that?
What's important about all this is: this is not something you will have to live with for the rest of your life. If you want to write a character with this phobia you can go two ways:
A) make them completely dependent on their avoidance behaviour. This was me for the first twenty years of my life. I wasn't even aware that's something I could get help for because for me it was so natural and frankly it never occurred to me that not everyone struggles with this
B) make them fight it. I've been in therapy for three years now and I'm still on my way of tearing down all the walls of avoidance I built up around me. And it's absolutely terrifying. But at the same time it's extremely freeing and I'm happier than ever before now that I don't live in constant anxiety. You can shape your character by giving them small wins on their journey to overcoming this fear. And when I mean small I mean... really ridiculously small from an outsider's perspective.
Here's some things I did in the last years that felt like winning the Olympics to me:
- eating ice cream (surprise: I didn't get sick from it)
- trying cheese that was past the date (it was fine)
- eating said cheese past the date (I was fine)
- kissing my boyfriend
- trusting my boyfriend to try the milk past date and judge if it's fine (which was a VERY big deal)
- being with my boyfriend while he was having a migraine and feeling nauseous, knowing fully well that he might throw up if it gets bad (argued with myself that because it's migraines I couldn't catch anything, but I was still very much on edge the whole time)
- driving a car full of people knowing that of someone got carsick I couldn't close my eyes and cover my ears like I usually did when I was in the back seat
So anyway, this was my addition to that. This post is actually a pretty big deal for me too because it's the first time I talk about this on the internet. But yeah, maybe it helps someone.
how do I write a character with emetophobia?
Writing Characters with Emetophobia!
from your neighborhood emetophobia haver, aka me!
TW for emetophobia things under the cut (emetophobia is a fear of vomit or vomiting)
so you want your character to have some quirky fear, and the fear of puking is what you landed on! I’m here to tell you what it’s like to have severe emetophobia and what that entails for my life. all of these struggles and symptoms are personal and doesn’t apply to everyone with emetophobia. it is a very individual phobia, this is just how my body and mind reacts
Living with Emetophobia ↴
this post has no real structure, it’s more or less just things that have happened to me. i’ve had this phobia since my inception, so here’s a list of things your characters with emetophobia might do.
Avoiding foods or actions that (probably won’t, but could) trigger sickness: I was terrified to eat anything that contained dairy because — one singular time — I heard that milk makes you throw up if you have a fever and I swore it off from the time I was 8 until I was about 12. I was literally nine years old reading labels in the store for dairy and violently throwing it back on the shelves if it contained it. Not to mention my mother was lactose intolerant (Which I’m not) but seeing her fall at the hands of dairy didn’t make me feel any better about it. During this phase I only ate about three things and you literally couldn’t get me to eat anything else to the point where I was nearly anorexic. Once my friend told me she coughed so hard she threw up and I didn’t let myself cough when I was sick for a long time after. I also ran away from anyone who coughed near me. (I was such a psycho.) Now I will eat most foods given to me, but if something repeatedly offends my stomach, I usually just stop. I’m not so dramatic about it anymore lol. (I am much healthier now, too.)
Literally running away from sick people: I will never forget one time, my brother got sick. I wasn’t even in the same room as him. My mom yelled “maccreadysbaby, can you bring me some wipes?” I did. And as soon as I saw what happened I threw them at her, ran across the house, hid behind the couch, covered my ears and started crying. Another time, my mom informed me that my brother had thrown up while I was not home for a few days, and I avoided him like the plague. Literally like I would die if I touched him. My parents stopped telling me if my siblings got sick while I was away after that. When I was in gradeschool, a classmate got sick on a Tuesday and I was fine for the rest of the week. Then I puked on Saturday. For years afterwards, if I was ever around a sick person, I’d always count four days and if I didn’t throw up on day four, finally relax. (Again, I was such a psycho.) This instinct is still here as an adult. For example, my sister just recently thought she was gonna get carsick (while I was in the back with her) and let me tell you I was so squished up to my door I couldn’t breathe. I still sort of do the day counting thing if I’m completely honest, but I’m not so terrified and incessant about it.
Thinking that they’re sick all the time: This was a terribly big thing for me. For a span of 5ish years, at the same time I swore off dairy, I basically categorized myself as gonna throw up all of the time, even when I was perfectly freaking fine. I woke up, assumed I would puke that day, because why wouldn’t I, and triggered my anxiety. Which would actually trigger stomachaches and stuff. I would sit on the stairs and beg and cry until my parents let me stay home from school, and we almost had to go to court for the amount of school I was missing because I pulled this crap every day. This phase of my life only ended when my mom took me to the doctor (while I was literally fine) and made him tell me I was just anxious and not actually going to puke. (As you can see, I was a very fun child to raise.) I don’t behave this way anymore, but if my stomach does hurt for some reason, I immediately spiral into oh SHITE not HAPPENING territory.
Have debilitating anxiety: This is one of the things on this list that still happens to me regularly. If my stomach hurts in any capacity (even on my period) I am immediately thrusted into I’m gonna freaking puke mode. I get really cold, start sweating, start trembling (like, shake the whole couch trembling) and just sit there while my anxiety eats my brain. I can’t move because some part of me thinks moving an inch is going to make me puke. No matter how much I tell myself you’re fine, you’re not going to puke, this happens to you every day and you haven’t thrown up since you were twelve, you’re being so dramatic, it doesn’t stop. I just have to sit there and wallow in my pain and anxiety until my stomach stops hurting. Then I laugh at myself for being stupid and move on, even though I routinely worry about it coming back throughout the day. If it does I rinse and repeat. If I do puke (which I fortunately haven’t done since I was twelve) I can confidently say there’d be a lot of crying and minimal screaming about how I’m gonna die.
Here’s a recent (as of literally this morning) emetophobic thought pattern for you to analyze, to help you understand what your characters minds might be doing when they’re freaking out:
I received a text that my cousin, who I saw last night, was throwing up. I was still asleep but I woke up and checked my phone anyways. This was my exact thought process.
oh SHITE I was around him, wasn’t I? Well, I guess not a lot, he spoke to me a few times and I was near him at the campfire, but I maybe not enough to make me sick. But you know who was around him? My freaking sister. And if she gets sick there’s no hope for me. oh my GOD does my stomach hurt right now? I think it does. Wait, shut up, maccreadysbaby, you’re being stupid. Think about something else and go back to sleep. Why are you SHAKING stop being so pathetic. Your stomach totally hurts right now. You have plans today maccreadysbaby you can NOT get sick you can NOT be the reason your plans are canceled. I’m totally going to throw up today as life’s way of spiting me. Shut up and go to sleep, you weren’t even around him. But I WAS we ALL were, sitting across the table doesn’t count as being far away. Maybe he just got carsick or has acid reflux or something. Today is Saturday so if I make it to Wednesday I should be fine. But what if I ACTUALLY throw up I don’t even want to think about it oh my God what if I do? Okay, you’re fine, shut up and go back to sleep.
I went back to sleep (eventually) and woke up twice more to go through that entire process again before my alarm went off. It’s basically that on repeat every time I hear of a sick person or my stomach hurts. Fun times 😬👍.
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I'll Write This Scene a Thousand Times - Ch1
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Ship: Moceit (Janus/Patton)
Warnings: Alcohol, Implied sex, one-night stand, rumours and scandal, swearing, I would recommend a 16+ readership, but since this isn't actually explicit I guess use your discretion?
Summary: For all accounts and purposes, Patton Hart should have been able to make it through his twenties in the music industry without coming face to face with a scandal. The perfect package of talented and adorable, with family connections to boot, all he'd had to do was keep out of trouble, and he was good at that.
He hadn't counted on running into Janus Lyre. The beautiful, frustrating, devil-may-care actor evidently has some sort of effect on Patton, driving him to make the sort of mistake that never would have crossed his mind previously. Now, with their faces plastered across the internet and fledgling careers on the line, the two of them need to keep the lie of their fleeting relationship sustained.
‘The sweetheart and the snake’ - has Janus Lyre found a new ‘Hart’ to break?
Less than an hour after being photographed at the premiere for his own movie, the young star was seen at a swanky downtown nightclub - guess that’s one flick we won’t be catching!
But, dear readers, that’s not the most interesting part. With Lyre’s turbulent record over his few years of fame, one might say playing hooky is just a minor infraction for the beloved bad boy, but the same can’t be said for the cutie hanging off his arms in those photos! Some of you might have already recognised those cute brown curls and sunshine grin, and as hard as it may be to believe that is indeed Patton Hart.
The youngest son of now retired singer Ophelia Hart has made quite a name for himself recently, with his sugary sweet lyrics and impossibly innocent persona - impossibly being the operative word. Is the golden boy finally rebelling? Or had there always been a darker side to Hart, hidden behind the saccharine pastel branding?
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Logan Wright: Just saw the news. Need to talk immediately. Send me your location, I can arrange for you to be picked up safely.
Logan Wright: Patton please pick up my calls
Logan Wright: I’m sure I don’t have to tell you how urgent this is??
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Patton groaned around the headache coursing through his skull as he paced the wooden floors of the darkened bedroom, willing the phone in his hand to be still long enough for him to figure out what to do.
This had to be a bad dream.
Patton Hart was not the kind of guy to wake up in another man’s bed with a bad hangover, barely any memories of the previous night, a hundred missed calls from his manager, and compromising pictures of himself spread all over the internet.
Maybe if he just crossed his fingers real hard and opened up twitter again, it would all just be gone and he would wake up in his own home, sans migraine, and everything would be just fine.
Nope. Patton’s own besotted face was the very first thing that greeted him as he opened the app, gazing up at Janus Lyre of all people. He felt like he was looking at a stranger as he flicked through the images despite his own surmounting dread. He watched this weirdly confident version of himself, practically draping himself over a man he barely knew, grinning as Janus leaned in to whisper in his ear, kissing him in the street outside the nightclub, his own unfamiliar hands running through long dark locks, wandering down to lithe waist and hips, pulling their bodies even closer.
Patton felt sick. He had to call Logan, he knew that. Logan knew how to fix things, he would handle this.
Then again, Patton had never given him something like this to fix before.
The tweets underneath the photos ranged between a variety of reactions, from confused, to shocked, to disgusted to “always knew Patton Hart had a dirty side”, to “Can’t wait to see how long Janus keeps this one around.”
To be perfectly honest, all of them made the sea of dread and nausea in Patton’s gut rise and lurch.
“This is so bad,” he muttered to the figure that had just appeared in the doorway, glass of water in hand.
“Oh is it? Is it really? Oh, thank you so much for telling me, I would definitely have forgotten just how ‘bad’ this was if you weren't here to remind me.”
Janus Lyre was infuriatingly cool, in a way that no one really had a right to be in the mornings - let alone on this morning. Somehow, even in sweatpants, with his tousled hair tied back in a low ponytail, he managed to make Patton feel awkwardly underdressed for having put his own clothes back on. His smudged eyeliner, a relic of the night, only added to the effect of his condescending eyeroll.
Regardless, Patton was grateful to accept the water, and the aspirin that was dropped into his palm with it. At least he was a gracious host, all things considered.
He sat gingerly on the edge of the bed, sipping slowly as he picked at a rip in his rumpled jeans. He could feel the weight of Janus’ eyes on him, but he didn’t want to look up. It felt like he’d be doing something wrong, shameful even, to be looking at the other man right now, despite all that had already transpired between them.
He didn’t know Janus, not really, but he had known of him. At least, he’d known he was bad news. He was an incredible actor, from what Patton had heard, and had managed to flourish in the past couple of years despite his young age and apparent lack of industry connections.
…Unfortunately, his incredible acting wasn’t all that he was known for. Janus’ name frequently popped up with regards to his sardonic responses to the press, disregard for convention, insulting important names in the industry, and generally being considered trouble.
Patton had often wondered how the man hadn’t been blacklisted yet. He never thought he’d end up tangled up with him in any way, much less this literally.
“Well, I’m sorry, but I don’t think you’re getting how serious this is,” he protested, “I - I just don’t understand how - there are pictures, Janus, everywhere, I have so many calls-”
Janus looked almost amused, as he leaned casually against the curtained windows, quirking an eyebrow at Patton.
“Oh dear, not pictures !” he mocked, “I take it this is your first time getting caught ‘ in flagrante’?”
“Wha- yes, of course!” Patton flushed.
“Well, don’t worry then, the first time is always the hardest,” Janus responded lightly, seeming as though he was getting quite bored with the conversation, and by extension, with Patton.
“I don’t exactly intend there to be a second time, just so you know,” Patton snapped,” I didn’t even intend for there to be a first time, quite frankly-”
Janus did look amused at this, grinning smugly as he replied, “Oh, is that right? You and I appear to remember last night very differently.”
“I’d really rather not talk about last night, thanks.”
“I’d happily talk about anything else. You are the one that keeps bringing it up,” Janus shrugged, before turning on his heel to face the window, tugging the curtain open by the corner, just enough to invite in a thin stream of light.
Patton might struggle with nuance sometimes, but even he understood that - Janus had got the last word in, and now he was done talking.
He huffed in annoyance, but it didn’t stop his traitorous eyes from following the graceful movement, tracing the dark lines of the tattoo that marked Janus’ light brown skin, a massive serpent that coiled and looped all over one side of his slender frame, seeming almost to writhe, hypnotically, with the slightest movement.
Patton tore his eyes away quickly, tugging self consciously at his own sweater sleeves. The cool water had helped slightly, but he could feel the dread settling in his stomach again. He didn’t belong in this situation, having wild midnight trysts with ridiculously pretty men, and whatever confidence the alcohol had apparently given him last night had evaporated, leaving him utterly unprepared for light, flirtatious morning-after banter.
“Um, well,” he cleared his throat and stood up, “I should probably go now, and call my manager to fix all this. Thank you for, er - the water, and last night, I guess, and I wish you all the best, of course.”
Janus didn’t even turn around to respond, “Oh, and I don’t suppose you’ll need transportation arranged?”
“No thank you, I can find my way-”
“And give the press an opportunity to catch you leaving the den of the snake? In the same clothes you entered in, no less?”
“I-”
Luckily, Patton didn’t have to come up with a clever response, because Logan - his dear, wonderful, manager Logan - decided to call him at that very moment.
“...I have to take this.” he muttered triumphantly, turning around to lift the phone to his ear, “Hi, Logan, I am so, so, sorry - I meant to call you, I just-”
“No time,” Logan’s phone voice was as always, clipped and professional, and he got straight to the point, “I need to see you. Immediately. There is much to discuss. I trust you’ve had enough foresight to remain at Lyre’s residence and not step outside?”
“I - I’m still here, yep.” Patton blushed.
“Good. I’m sending a car, don’t leave the building until it arrives. And bring Lyre with you, please.”
“You want to meet Janus?”
“The subject I need to discuss with you also concerns him, so yes.”
“Oh- um, okay, I’ll bring him. Um, do you need an address?”
“No need, I have it.”
“Already? How?”
“That is my job, Patton.”
“Right, right, fair enough. Okay, I’ll see you.”
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Patton had a flashback to middle school - the one time he was sent to see the principal for bad behaviour - as he knocked nervously on the door to Logan’s office.
“Come in.”
He heard a scoff from behind him as he took a deep breath, preparing to open the door - it had been a struggle to get Janus to come along.
Just as he’d expected - and feared - Logan was wearing his “I am a professional and thus I am not going to get upset” face. What he hadn’t expected, was that this look didn’t seem directed at him.
Leaning back in the chair next to Logan’s, high heeled boots on the desk, was a man that Patton had never seen before - and between the half-black, half-silver mullet, curled moustache, and bright green glitter, he was pretty sure he’d remember if he had.
His eyes skipped over Patton entirely before settling on Janus and lighting up.
“J-Anus!” he cackled, “Thanks for not picking up any of my calls from last night, asshole!”
“Remus, good to see you,” Janus sighed, “Looks like your mummy called my mummy,” he whispered loudly to Patton.
To Remus, he said, “I do apologise, Remus, I turned my phone off because I was busy not watching the movie I was in. I’m sure you understand.”
“Ahem,” Logan interrupted, “Mr Lyre, thank you for coming in, Patton, this is Remus Rey, Mr Lyre's manager. Please take a seat, Remus and I have much to discuss with you.”
Patton waved politely at Remus, who winked back.
“Well first things first, I’d like to say congratulations to you both-”
“Remus.”
“-But that was nasty fucking trick you pulled there, Jay! You promised me you’d stop disappearing from important events! You know how much work I have to do to clear that shit up?”
Janus shrugged like a petulant teenager. “Got bored.”
“I really am sorry for putting this on you, Logan.” Patton could see Logan’s knuckles tightening, a familiar tenseness in his jaw, that telegraphed that he was Not Having a Good Time.
“That’s - not to worry, Patton,” a twitch had started to develop in his right eye, “technically speaking, this is - my job.”
“And he’s pretty damn good at it if he’s managed to keep you out of trouble this long eh, Patty?” Remus cracked in, “I mean, for what it’s worth, I always knew there was more to you, but the two of you really had the rest of those idiots fooled, huh?”
“Um…”
“ Anyways,” Logan interrupted through gritted teeth, “Whilst the two of you were missing in action, so to speak…”
Patton sunk a little deeper in his seat. He wasn’t looking at him, but he was pretty sure he could feel Janus roll his eyes from beside him.
“...Remus and I had a chance to sit down and decide how to deal with this in a way that will benefit both parties.”
“ Oh, how fascinating, do tell .”
Logan, apparently much better equipped at dealing with smart-ass comments than Patton, ignored Janus entirely.
“Now, the two of you may have your reservations, but I request that you please hear us out before rejecting the matter entirely.”
“Now, the two of you may have your reservations, but I request that you please hear us out before rejecting the matter entirely.”
“Of Course we’ll hear you out!”
“ ...Yes, because that request didn’t raise any suspicions at all.”
“Remus and I think the best way to spin this current...situation to our advantage, would be with a relationship contract.”
There was a silence in the room for a minute as the full meaning of Logan’s words settled in. Well, a silence accompanied by Remus tapping out a rhythm on the edge of Logan’s desk with his - admittedly fabulous - acrylic nails. After what felt like a full minute he grinned at them.
“Pretty good, huh? It was my idea.”
”Yes, well, I cannot exactly deny that Remus was the one to suggest that,” Logan grumbled, “However, I do support it entirely, and am happy to proceed with your consent.”
“You want us to...date?”
“They want us to pretend to date,” Janus interjected, “A few staged photos, attend events on my arm, everyone thinks this was a sweet little lover’s outing and not a drunken fling.”
“See, I told you mine was smart!” Remus grinned proudly at Logan.
“...Indeed,” Logan nodded at Janus, “I understand you might have your compunctions, but this is the best way for us to spin this into something... close to brand-appropriate, for Patton. And as for you, Mr Lyre-”
“We’re hoping we can make it look like you’re finally setting down, starting to behave yourself, or some horseshit like that,” Remus cut in, “I gotta keep you booked somehow, Jan-Jan.”
Another long silence filled the room - and even Remus stayed quiet for this one. Patton stared at his lap. He didn’t exactly feel great about this sort of thing, but Logan had said it was the only way. And heck, this sort of stuff happened all the time in this line of work, he knew that. Right?
Janus spoke up first.
“How long would this contract be, exactly?”
“We were thinking one year,” came Logan’s reply.
A whole year?
"I assume there are rules?"
"Behave as though you're in a relationship, perform for the camera when necessary, and if you intend to have outside relations, do try to keep them private - or better yet, don't."
“...I’m amenable,” Janus said finally.
And then, Patton could feel three sets of eyes on him, waiting for a response. Logan, calm and expectant, as ever hiding his impatience behind professionalism. Remus, toothy-grinned, leaning forward as if he was watching a sports match.
And Janus. For the first time with sober eyes, Patton levelled his own gaze with Janus’. His face was as inscrutable as ever, but Patton could feel the unspoken challenge behind his mismatched eyes. Asking him whether Patton Hart could handle something like this. Or worse, outright stating that he couldn’t.
…Or maybe Janus wasn’t thinking any of that and it was just Patton’s own loopy consciousness egging him on. Either way, the words slipped out of his mouth before he even thought them.
“I’ll do it.”
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Stripping Away The Bloat - The Umibe No Etranger Movie Did The Manga Dirty
I finally got around to watching the movie of Umibe no Etranger - a movie I didn’t know existed based on one of my old favourite BL mangas. And oh boy, does this adaptation reflect a painful trend in manga to anime/movie adaptations overall. Allow me a moment to rant, if you will...
TL;DR: READ THE MANGA BY THE LOVE OF GOD IT’S WONDERFUL. Also the movie is super pretty, but here’s a semi-detailed look at why it still really didn’t do the manga justice. You bet I came with receipts.
A few important notes before you start:
1. Remember this is just my opinion, and I’d love to hear other people’s point of view on the matter, whether you agree or disagree!
2. I am not fluent enough in Japanese to read the original without a translation, so my thoughts on the manga are coming from fan translations, which 100% might have affected how I view this! The anime I’m a little more sure on as I can generally tell when the subtitles have deviated, but that does mean I may have missed something/something was lost in translation that means something I say here is incorrect. I’m very sorry for this, so remember this is my view based on the media types I’ve consumed.
3. Also the manga cuttings I use are not the best quality because of tumblr’s sizing, so even more of a reason to go read the books yourself!
I’m aware I’m very late to this party, but when I saw the other day that this movie had been made, I was horrified that I hadn’t known about it sooner. I read the manga years ago, and adored it - it’s genuinely a sweet and beautifully drawn romance, and I’d highly recommend it to anyone. With that, however, the movie was a huge disappointment to me and I just need to have a moment to gush in a less than positive way.
The Pros:
Let’s get this out of the way, I’d still probably recommend this movie to anyone who likes romance anime-style movies. It’s beautifully animated. Seriously, this movie is stunning, with wonderful expressions, bright colours, and a pretty well suited soundtrack too. The animation tries to match the original art style of the manga, and frankly, I think it captures it perfectly. 10/10. Gorgeous. Watch it just for the prettiness.
I’m also a big fan of any BL/GL adaptations that get a little more into the mainstream. This movie is definitely a huge win in terms of representation, especially when the manga (on the whole) avoided the more negative tropes that the BL/GL genres have historically been known for. (More on that later...) So that’s a win, and I will take it.
The Bloat Cut:
To put it simply, this movie fell into the trap of what I call (in my head) ‘cutting out the bloat’. As a long-time anime and manga fan, who has seen countless adaptations over the years, it’s a common theme that tends to make or break an anime.
‘Cutting out the bloat’ to me means that the adaptors cut out a lot of the ‘smaller’ moments and panels that are seen in a manga. This movie was thankfully very good at following the original plot and took us through the same beats that the manga did (many adaptations don’t bother doing that at all), but they left out a lot of the extra stuff - the aforementioned ‘bloat’.
The bloat isn’t really bloat in that it is pointless, however: the problem is that these little moments and scenes are seen to be pointless by the adaptors. Again, understandable: they have a limited run time, and it’s hard to include every little tiny moment, especially when they are ones that are easily scanned passed. Some bloat cutting is necessary to make an adaptation viable at all, but sometimes, it can be hugely detrimental to the piece. Umibe no Etranger is a key example of this.
Setting:
I watched this movie without rereading the manga, and as such, I was quickly thrown off by how bad the movie was. This was one of my favourite mangas, wasn’t it? Had I really had such terrible taste? (Yes, let’s not go there, but this manga was not one of my high-school bad decisions).
The characters felt strange. Personalities did complete 180s after the time skip and did some questionable things that I couldn’t recall finding issue with when I read the manga. The two main characters felt so hot and cold that it didn’t feel like the story I remembered. Even the pacing felt off and janky at times.
After watching, I went back and reread the manga, and this is where I saw all the ‘bloat’, the little intricate moments and minor panels that were easy to overlook but made the story what it was. Here’s a few of the biggest examples I could find.
Shun:
Oh, Shun. What did they do to you?
Shun’s character was bizarre. In the first 15 minutes of the movie, he was bubbly, friendly, and even bold enough to flirt with Mio. After the time skip, he was sour, cold, and completely withdrawn from the world. I understood Mio’s confusion because after the time jump he was a completely different character.
The manga is often focused on Shun and his inner thoughts, and he’s the one who is hurt the most by the bloat cutting. For starters, he wasn’t as over-the-top friendly at the start of the manga as he was in the anime, and we’re able to see his inner thoughts and worries that cause his reservations from the first few pages we meet him. We also get more hints earlier on as to Shun’s past that explain a lot of his behaviour as a whole, as well as getting little hints as to why he’s even more negative and exhausted after the time jump.
Mio:
The biggest bloat cut out in terms of Mio is the big plot point of the phone call. For context, before leaving for the time skip, Mio promises to call Shun once he’s gotten to his new home. In the movie, this is never really brought up again, focusing on the relationship in the present, but this was a huge point to leave out. I think it was cut out because it was explained in one short scene in the manga, and therefore easily mistaken for bloat.
In the manga, it’s explained that Mio does call, but it’s Eri who answers, and there’s a very important conversation that sets up Mio’s whole character development and explains why he returns to the island set on having a relationship with Shun. Eri warns him that calling Shun, despite knowing that Shun has feelings for him, is cruel and unfair, and tells Mio he shouldn’t contact him unless he’s worked out his feelings. It’s a great scene, and a real shame to leave out when it explains firstly why Mio never called back, and secondly why he is so adamant about his feelings and love for Shun when he does finally return: because he saw Eri’s warning to mean ‘don’t come back unless you are serious’.
Relationship:
In the movie, Mio and Shun didn’t really seem to have a relationship until the drama kicked up and then it quickly seem to disappear again. Shun was extremely held back and reserved, and barely ever seemed to return Mio’s feelings (even in the scenes he was instigating) - he even totally avoided anything resembling physical contact at first.
Compare this to the manga, where there are little hints of their relationship progressing throughout the chapters. For one, Shun is never as cold and blank as he seems in the film, and when he does seem that way, the manga quickly shows a glimpse of his thoughts to explain how he’s exhausted or distracted - without those little bloated thought bubbles, he just seems... a little cruel frankly.
A really good example of this is the beach kiss scene. In the movie, as Mio is about to kiss him, Shun suddenly announces that he’s hungry and avoids the kiss altogether, leaving Mio confused.
In the manga, they actually do kiss - it’s their first kiss, in fact. Shun seems embarrassed and his ‘I’m hungry’ feels like more of a way to distract them both. He explains he’s exhausted (which is fair enough, this is a big thing for him to process on little sleep that his inner thoughts earlier in the chapter already set up) rather than just outright shunning him. (Ha. Shun. shun. Get it?)
A more *noted* bloat they cut out is that Shun and Mio get physical in the manga way earlier than the movie, the touches just not quite being everything Mio wanted. Without those more tender moments, where they actually seem like a couple, it seems like Mio is chasing after Shun desperately, whilst Shun couldn’t care less about him. It detracts from the whole relationship. Below are some examples of the two of them actually seeming like a couple that were cut from the movie, including longing looks from Shun, Shun hugging Mio whilst he’s asleep, and Shun asking to kiss and touch Mio.
The Issue:
Bloat cutting always annoys me, but usually, if it’s not hindering the story, I don’t mind. What bothers me most of all in this movie, is that without these subtle little panels and moments, the relationship between Shun and Mio seems... forced, frankly. In the movie, Shun seems to be the instigator of the flirting, and then after the time skip he acts practically disgusted, avoiding a lot of Mio’s advances, and we don’t get to hear his inner thoughts like we do in the manga to explain why he’s feeling this way.
In the manga, during these ‘bloat’ pieces, Shun is an actual willing participant in the relationship, and Mio isn’t just forcing his advances onto Shun. It’s natural. It’s not flipping between hot and cold, or suddenly ramping up after a big moment of drama, it’s slow and careful and a real relationship.
This would be a bad change in any adaptation, but it’s especially so in this one. Anyone who is a fan of BL specifically is probably aware of the genre’s bad rep historically for having some... questionable consent issues. This manga didn’t have them. The movie? I’m not so sure, and that’s why it’s rubbed me the wrong way. I could spend another 1000 words talking about this issue as a whole, but I’ll leave it there, you get the idea.
Expected? Yes. Okay? Meh.
There’s no real point to this post aside from to complain a little and point out just how much more the source material gives us. Cutting the bloat always happens, and I don’t want it to stop happening per say, that would be impossible, but I’d kill for adaptors to just take a little more time to work out what is unnecessary and cutable bloat, and what is something they should really keep in.
The movie is still cute and beautifully made, so please go watch and see for yourself! Mostly, I’d highly recommend the manga: it’s got the same gorgeous art style, only about 5 chapters long, and the story and relationship is that little bit more firmly built.
I’ll stop ranting now, and I hope this actually made sense? Anyway, congrats on making it all this way.
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You say he's immature, but the only one I see being immature is the one calling people braindead and telling them to fuck off over a cartoon.
I still find it disgusting that you are saying someone is homophobic because they don't like the ship you enjoy. How old are you, exactly? Not that it matters, because this behaviour is unacceptable for anyone above the age of nine. This is the point of contention I have with you. Dislike the video all you want. Reply to it to your hearts content. But name calling, serious accusations of homophobia and misogyny are things I will not let slide. Kaiser thinks you're hilarious. He thanks you for finally giving him hate comments; thinks they're a hoot. But me, you came to me and my blog calling my friend a homophobe. Nah. I won't tolerate that. Because I take these accusations seriously, and I won't stand for them being thrown around like glitter at Pride.
You can froth at the mouth and spew obscenities all you want in private, but I'm going to call you out on it if you bring it to my attention in my replies. You are the reason why the RWBY fandom is clowned on. Your behaviour is abhorrent just because you disagree with him.
There are real homophobic people out there who will and have and are doing a lot worse to gay people in real life that have actual impacts in the real world. Yet you are here interacting with me calling someone you don't know a homophobe because he doesn't think a gay ship happens to be well written.
It doesn't matter whether or not the problems he has with Renora is the same as BB. The two ships aren't equivalent so of course his issues are going to be different. To call him homophobic because he acknowledges there's differences between the way the two ships are badly written is asinine. It shows you aren't actually engaging intelligently, you're just hurt because a ship you like got dunked on and you're lashing out.
You don't understand the concept that his criticism is that within the story, the girls were never set up in the same way that Renora was set up and there's that disconnect there between the two ships. RT did a lot of heavy lifting for RWBY in outside material for RWBY and that's been a consistent issue a lot of people have had with them and their writing and BB is no different. Renora as a ship needed none of that and that's frankly better writing than the cast constantly hyping up the fans on one specific ship in order to prime them for it happening "someday".
Yet instead of engaging with the video properly you just call him braindead and his points idiotic, nevermind the fact that it makes you look like a baby having a temper tantrum, that it weakens your arguments, legitimate or not, when you scream things like that the way you did. I have been patient with you, and still want to be civil. But I am not going to allow you to talk about someone else, let alone my friend, like that to me.
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Two Faced | Chapter Seven
↳ levi ackerman, the very person who was about to kindly behead you by a surprising turn of events manages to become your loving husband? you would be elated if this was true love, but it’s all thanks to a mysterious magic spell that your life is spared, for now at least.
pairing :: duke!levi x duchess!reader genre :: royal au ??? (at this point idek) angst, fluff, slice of life etc ?? word count :: 2.6k author note :: ofc the reader would still be considered to be a duchess which is why it’s duchess!reader but i guess there’s just more themes of war and titans etc than i expected. so i guess it’s also cadet!reader ?? i promise i have a plan OK! T___T. anyways i hope that’s alright and not very confusing the original premise very much still stands!! :D also i promise levi gets better maybe soon who knows... → click here for the next part !
It's understandable why she's noticeably alarmed by the shift in behaviour, the concept of Levi showing any inclination towards caring about you is foreign to the both of you.
"The Duke has also been asking me and Mikasa the most peculiar questions too."
You blink. "What sorts of questions?"
"Ones concerning your past" She begins and your curiosity piques. "Asked if you ever mentioned anything about your old life. Basic information, I don't understand why he would ask now."
"He asked about me?" You question incredulously. This is surreal.
Bobbing her head up and down you stare closely at her trying to figure out if she's serious and she passes your test with flying colours.
You don't know if you should be nervous or afraid, perhaps he shifted back to his loving self for a while? Thousands of explanations surge past you but you can't pinpoint what exactly could have caused him to ask such questions. As far as you know, he's never been interested in you unless a transaction has been involved. That's all it's been since he snapped out of the spell. A purely transactional relationship.
Sasha places a firm hand on your shoulder "Talk to him, figure out what's going on." Her suggestion makes you shudder, frankly you're fearful around him after the events of yesterday night.
Whatever sick and twisted mind game he's playing at you won't let yourself become prisoner to it.
"No," You shake your head simply. "This is another one of his stealthy tactics, I won't give into it out of desperation."
"All the more reason to question where his morals lay." Sasha is persistent. The anxiety is burning itself into your body and it's tough to disregard its presence.
If there's one thing you have learnt in your lifetime it's to put trust in as little people as possible. You have your confidants and are dedicated to keeping your friendships with them. Sasha and Mikasa are loyal at heart and their steadfast nature is incomparable. But, they are anomalies. As much as you would like to admit that there are many diamonds similar to those two you can't.
It's rare to find reliable individuals in this harsh reality full of wealth, jealousy and power hungry survival. Levi, is a man you refuse to put even an ounce of trust into.
Putting any faith in him is hazardous. His unflappable demeanour, self-control, the knack he has for long-winded and gradual manipulation. Distant, bitter and calculating. You think he wouldn't care less if you were to drop dead this instant. In reality you aren't a human being to him, simply a problem out of the very many he already has. So why the sudden interest? Why? What is it he's after this time?
You've signed your life away to this empire under the ruse of becoming an informant. You're risking your life for him. What more does he want to coax out of you?
Those are the thoughts that scuttle past you as you pace in one of the very many hallways within the estate. Your initial destination had been his office but you retreat. For now you choose to withdraw from a battle of words. You aren't prepared.
But life has a way of never letting you pick when you encounter him.
The sound of footsteps behind you is a blunt indicator he's near but you let your naivety pray it's simply a maid. "Cadet." And there he is. Snarling behind your ear, breath blazing.
Cadet?
He must be able to tell you don't recognise the name which rolls off his tongue, especially when the two of you aren't in a professional setting, its placement is odd.
"What? Do you think you're worthy of a better term?" He's taunting you, disgusted that you're dense enough to think you're deserving of any other title.
Arms clasped behind his back he takes a long stride forward, you take a step back in response, he steps forward again and you move in the opposite direction again.
"I'm not used to it that's all. I know I am no Duchess."
His raspy voice creeps into your ear "Get used to it. You are my subordinate, don't assume this is a level playing field."
"Do you hop into all of your cadet's beds very often Sir?"
The question comes out of nowhere and as soon as the words have left your lips you slap your palms over your mouth taken aback just by how easy it is for the impulsive side of your brain to defy him.
"Really?" He asks darkly, and when you narrow your eyes in bewilderment, he coughs, clearing his throat to begin again. "Are you willing to bring this up right now?"
He's as close as ever now, if he moves an inch closer his nose will brush against yours, it suddenly feels difficult to breathe but you swallow the struggle away still unsure if you can force yourself to reply to his question. Is there a right or wrong answer?
For once, you choose to be selfish and put your interests before anyone else's even if that means risking your safety in the process. You just want to understand for once how his brain works.
Balling your fists into two you manage to squeak out what you've been holding back "Do you pry into the personal life of each and every one of your cadets or does that special rule only seem to apply to me?"
"Do you give all of your cadets random days off?"
"Do you-"
He grabs the back of your ponytail with his gloved hands, his skin isn't directly touching yours but the firm grip he has on you doesn't stop your cheeks from flooding with warmth. Fumbling around you're about to scream when he pulls at your hair again jestingly, his other arm moves to securely hold you keeping you stuck in the position you're in.
"Levi." You squirm around awkwardly trying to escape his grasp but he doesn't find this at all amusing.
"Captain." His firm correction catches you off guard.
"Sorry. Captain." Your throat is dry as you croak out the short reply.
Straightening your back you try to shake off the hold he has on your hair but he only tugs your head backwards warning you. Your bare neck is exposed and his eyes slip to your half done buttons. Rolling his eyes he knows if it were any other male member of the corps even the oh so respectable and mature Erwin Smith who caught you like this they would fantasize about how you look underneath that flimsy button up. It's now slipping down one of your shoulders.
Moving the arm that has been holding you down he jerks the fabric back up your shoulder.
"I was under that spell of yours. You're naive to think there's any other reason." He returns venomously, his voice is dripping in poison determined to exterminate any of the attitude you've shown him in the past two minutes.
"Why all the questions about my personal life? I was informed you interrogated a few of my friends."
He tugs at your hair again, you tilt backwards. "What do you hope to get out of this? Find out I have some sort of secret feelings for you?"
In the blink of an eye your bubble has been burst, deep down you did hope that was what this was about. It's not that you would like for him to love you, you wouldn't mind it but, if he loves you your safety is guaranteed that's all that matters. That's what you tell yourself. You don't miss the old him no you don't.
The colour drains from your face when you hear what he has to say afterwards.
"Adorable." His tone is spiked in mockery. "How fond you are of me, but I have no interest in the likes of you."
Heart leaping to your throat the simmering rejection settles.
"And. If you must know, you were given a day off today because Hange insisted every cadet have a day of rest before we all relocate to the training facility's dorms." You curse yourself, the transfer had slipped your mind completely.
"Got it? Fucking prissy princess." The expletive makes you wince.
Then he's silent, it's deafening and bizarrely you find his silence all the more daunting and menacing than when he speaks.
Wrestling yourself out of the grasp he has on your hair is your next move but he loosens his grip without being told to.
Levi allows for you to retreat with no further arguments.
And just like that the rare day off goes past as quick as it happens.
You learn that ignoring Levi is your best bet at living a peaceful life within the walls of this Kingdom. Follow the orders he gives you and you almost always guarantee your own safety. Living. Even if it isn't a happy life you are aware there will be some pleasant moments. Living to experience those moments is the only motivation you have.
Erwin has said you would benefit from working with the rest of the cadets more often. It stops them from questioning why you receive personal training - after all they are unaware of the deal stricken up between you and Levi, it's understandable for the influx of questions.
You don't mind, after all training with Mikasa by your side for most of your days sounds more appealing in the long term. It usually gets lonely and tedious being alone. The prospect of being around the other cadets appeals to you too. You haven't actually had the opportunity to speak to very many of them and a few new members have apparently joined the ranks as of today.
Curiosity is kicking in, everyone is mumbling about the new cadets joining the squadron. You count as one of the new additions you suppose, there's no other explanation for why everyone whispers and murmurs as you stroll into the crowded training area with Mikasa by your side.
"Isn't she the one who banged her head?" muffled chuckles are heard but you pay no mind to the expected response, they'll soon be done talking about you when the next person in line embarrasses them self in your place. Levi's sharp tongue has conditioned you to pay no mind to the commentary of the other cadets. Nobody seems to be able to humiliate you in his fashion.
Mikasa doesn't take the same approach as you when greeted by the unwelcoming whispers, instead she whips her head in the direction of the insults, it looks as if she's thinking about careening one of her steel blades at the group just to instill some respect into them but the simple jerk of her body facing them is enough to make them rotate away in panic and curve the topic of discussion elsewhere.
She mutters something unclear under her breath, you would ask her to repeat her sentence but you're sure all she's done is call the boys infantile and stupid for the way they conduct themselves.
Everyone is introducing themselves and you familiarize yourself with some faces. Krista, the human embodiment of a dainty flower, she's as sweet as honey, A brunette ruffles her hair, she seems close to Krista, she doesn't even bother to introduce herself until she tells her too. Ymir, is her name.
Next you acquaint yourself with Connie, he's friendly and more than happy to converse with you, a breathe of fresh air from the cramped nature of the gossiping group from before.
Everything is going smoothly but then you feel a shoulder slink over your arm, it's not Mikasa it doesn't feel like her.
"You know Jean?" Connie is obviously very surprised.
That's when your eyes bulge out of your sockets in complete and utter shock at the slim chances of this possibility ever occurring, of all the people in all of the places, you just so happen to encounter Jean Kirstein again. He's a wildcard that's for sure.
It doesn't even cross your mind to think he could easily rat you out and ask why a noble woman such as yourself is here of all places. In fact, that concern is at the back of your mind far from your attention. You simply smile, happy to see a familiar face. You barely know him personally but from your last encounter you've been able to discern that he's welcoming and sociable.
He's incredibly friendly patting your head and completely bombarding you with questions "I would have never expected someone like you to show up." If it were anyone else you would have taken it as an insult but he's genuinely curious what brings you here, that much is obvious by his tone.
"Likewise Kirstein, I suppose we live in a small world."
You purposefully choose to not reveal much, you don't know who you can and can't trust.
He seems to catch on because he doesn't follow up on his inquiry. Instead he and Connie ask what part of Paradis you're from, what your parents do, all sorts. You're so engrossed in making up a somewhat believable story you don't even realize Kirstein's arm is still slung over your shoulder.
It's only until Hange yells "ATTENTION!" at the front of the training grounds do your notice the close proximity between you and your fellow cadet.
Slowly edging away from him you're swiftly able to detach yourself with no disturbances.
Hange is introducing themself, hands flailing in all directions and eyes wide describing how their additional role is investigating titans, they say if you're lucky enough maybe one day you'll be able to help with one of their secretive experiments. A towering blonde brute nearby whispers that Hange is eccentric and odd, a few others say it's surprising they're a superior.
Sensibly, you bury the frustration you feel down your throat, but God would you love if those childish fools kept their false opinions to themselves.
Erwin and Levi exchange looks probably deciding who speaks afterwards, it seem begrudgingly Levi agrees to take the stand.
The training ground abruptly falls silent.
Levi taking a step forward surveys the area and not once does he bother looking at you.
"Rules." His voice rumbles. "Which you all must follow." His gaze unusually centers in on Jean, you bear witness to how his form begins to tremble. Just one look from the Captain and he's about to dissolve.
The majority of his rules are basic and can easily be predicted, "You are expected to help with the cleaning. If your personal hygiene is that of a pig you may as well walk yourself out of the door now." His silver eyes are stabbing into the front row, most likely because Eren is there. He's apparently missed cleaning duty for two weeks now, it's miraculous how he's escaped unscathed.
After Levi is done wordlessly threatening Eren he rubs his hands together expectantly. Lips quirking up into one of his sharp cut-throat smiles he stares right at Jean. After a moment of silence he speaks with clarity. "No dating between cadets is permitted. No fucking either, sorry to disappoint Kirstein."
Metallic eyes are piercing into his wobbly form again and all of the cadets burst into a rupture of giggles. You too are about to join them. Truthfully, it is laughable that his notorious womanizing reputation is known even to the Captains.
But before you're able to laugh your breathe falters, you can practically feel jagged daggers twisting and digging into you. Quickly before he swiftly looks away you’re able to note Levi's eyes deliberately flick up in your direction, gaze boring into you, it burns.
You feel guilty but don’t know what it is you’ve done to produce such a hostile response.
Nevertheless, you can feel his scrutiny impale you.
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'I still don't believe Meghan': Piers Morgan tweets defiant Churchill message and says he stands by view that saw him quit GMB - as Susanna Reid tells morning viewers 'it's going to be very different' without him
Ranvir Singh will host Good Morning Britain with Susanna Reid today - the day after Piers Morgan stormed off
Mr Morgan faced a social media campaign over comments he made about Harry and Meghan's interview
He faced a huge online backlash after he said he 'didn't believe a word' of the Duke and Duchess' Oprah talk
Twitter users responded by sharing links to Ofcom and gave instructions on how to complain to TV regulator
Ofcom today announced it was launching an investigation following the raft of complaints from Twitter users
MailOnline editor at large, who has helped show to record ratings, had blazing row with Alex Beresford
They were discussing the Sussexes' interview with Oprah, where the couple accused Royal Family of racism
Piers Morgan today doubled down after quitting Good Morning Britain by tweeting that he still doesn't believe any of Meghan's incendiary claims to Oprah in a defiant message sent as the show began without him with Strictly star Ranvir Singh in his chair.Susanna Reid admitted it will be a 'very different' programme without her co-star of five years and told viewers this morning that he had been a 'voice for many of you' through Brexit and the coronavirus pandemic.Mr Morgan sensationally quit the show on the day it scored record ratings after he told viewers he 'didn't believe a word she [Meghan] said' to Oprah and branded her 'Princess Pinocchio' after an interview where the Duchess said she was suicidal while five months pregnant and accused the Royal Family of racism. His views sparked more than 41,000 complaints made to Ofcom.
Just after the show began at 6am this morning he tweeted to his 7.8million followers: 'On Monday, I said I didn’t believe Meghan Markle in her Oprah interview. I’ve had time to reflect on this opinion, and I still don’t. If you did, OK. Freedom of speech is a hill I’m happy to die on. Thanks for all the love, and hate. I’m off to spend more time with my opinions'.
He also shared a quote by Britain's greatest prime minister Winston Churchill, which said: 'Some people's idea of free speech is that they are free to say what they like but if anyone else says anything back, that is an outrage'.
On an extraordinary day for the show he also walked off set live on air after the show's weatherman Alex Beresford accused him of unfairly 'trashing' Meghan, branding him 'diabolical' and saying: 'I'm sorry but Piers just spouts off on a regular basis and we have to sit there and listen'. Mr Beresford was not on screen today, with Laura Tobin presenting the GMB weather this morning.
Hours later Mr Morgan quit, with his supporters defending his views and claiming his exit is more bad news for free speech and a sad indictment of cancel culture in Britain after critics including Labour MP Dawn Butler encouraged people to complain to ITV and Ofcom. Others have questioned whether GMB's viewing figures will hold-up without its star, who helped add a million new viewers in his time on the show.
After Ranvir Singh, a GMB reporter and star of Strictly last year, stepped in for Piers today, Susanna then gave a short speech on the tumultuous events of the past 24 hours.
Ms Reid said: 'A number of people will know the news and many of you will not and will be surprised that Piers Morgan is not here this morning. Now, Piers and I have disagreed on many things and that dynamic was one of the things viewers loved about the programme.
'He is without doubt an outspoken, challenging, opinionated, disruptive broadcaster. He has many critics and he has many fans. You will know that I disagreed with him about Meghan's interview. He himself clarified his comments about her mental health on the show yesterday.'
Reid said there are 'many voices' on Good Morning Britain and 'everyone has their say'. She added: 'But now Piers has decided to leave the programme. Some of you may cheer and others may boo.
'He has been my presenting partner, Monday to Wednesday, for more than five years and during Brexit and the pandemic and other issues, he has been a voice for many of you and a voice that many of you have railed against.
'It is certainly going to be very different but shows go on and so on we go.'
Ranvir Singh, Reid's co-presenter for the morning, replied: 'Well said.' She described Morgan as a 'big character' and said 'many viewers will be absolutely gutted'. Singh called Morgan 'Marmite' and acknowledged his role in Good Morning Britain's success. Ms Singh is amongst the favourites to take the job, but said: 'I was here anyway, don't read anything into this, I was here anyway. I've shifted seats on this brand new desk'.
It came after 55-year-old Mr Morgan shocked viewers by walking off camera during a heated on-air row with weatherman Alex Beresford, saying 'I'm done with this' after being challenged on his position of the Duke and Duchess by his co-star. Afterwards ITV CEO Carolyn McCall - who formerly worked for the left-wing Guardian newspaper - said that the broadcaster's media and entertainment MD Kevin Lygo was speaking to Mr Morgan.And last night it was announced that Mr Morgan had quit the hugely popular ITV show - which he co-hosted with Susanna Reid.An ITV spokesman told MailOnline: 'Following discussions with ITV, Piers Morgan has decided now is the time to leave Good Morning Britain. ITV has accepted this decision and has nothing further to add.'It is understood Mr Morgan had been asked to apologise for his remarks which had been criticised by mental health campaigners but had declined.It brings to an end his six-year long association with the breakfast show, which he originally joined as a guest host in 2015, during which time he has made it must-see TV with a strong of exclusives and his strident opinions.Ironically it came the day after GMB recorded its highest ever viewing figures in the wake of Megan Markle's blockbuster Oprah Winfrey interview.It also came on the day that he had followed up with an agenda-setting interview with her father Thomas in which Mr Markle had taken aim at 'snotty' Harry, defended the British people and Royals against her claims of racism and revealed that he felt she had betrayed him, not the other way around.Earlier Morgan, who this evening Tweeted a picture of himself with former manager David Ferriter and the message 'trust your gut', also addressed his previous comments regarding the Duchess's mental health.Yesterday, he was criticised by the charity, Mind, after saying he 'didn't believe a word she said'. I wouldn't believe it if she read me a weather report,' he added.Today he addressed these remarks and said: 'When we talked about this yesterday I said as an all-encompassing thing I don't believe what Meghan Markle is saying generally in this interview and I still have serious concerns about the veracity of a lot of what she said.'But let me just state for the record on my position on mental illness and on suicide.'On mental illness and suicide these are clearly extremely serious things and should be taken extremely seriously and if someone is feeling that way they should get the treatment and the help they need every time. Every time.'And if they belong to an institution like the Royal family and they go and seek that help they should absolutely be given it.'It's not for me to question if she felt suicidal, I am not in her mind and that is for her to say.'My real concern was a disbelief frankly and I'm prepared to be proven wrong on this and if I'm wrong it is a scandal, that she went to a senior member of the Royal household and told them she was suicidal and was told she could not have any help because it would be a bad look for the family.'If that is true a) that person should be fired and b) The Royal family have serious questions that need to be answered.'But it was not enough to stop a wildfire social media campaign against him that resulted in 41,000 complaints to TV watchdog Ofcom by last night who announced they had launched a probe under their 'harms' code. The campaign featured an avalanche of tweets which criticised the host and supporting Meghan - some sharing direct links to the Ofcom complaints page. Among those launching criticism at Morgan were Labour MP Dawn Butler, who copied in the Twitter page of ITV to her Tweet.
In her social media post, which shared a comment from Mind criticising Morgan's remarks, she asked: '@ITV what have you decided to do?'Another Twitter user said: 'It took me about seven minutes to complain to fill in the Ofcom online form to complain about Piers Morgan's disgusting behaviour on mental health and race issues. It's not much, but if enough people complain they have to do something!' One Twitter user - who said: 'I am determined to get Piers off GMB Lolz. Which petitions do I need to sign?' - received a response with a link to the Ofcom complaints page.Their decision to act was in stark contrast to what happened with 24,500 people complained about dance troop Diversity's BLM-inspired routine on Britain's Got Talent last year when the watchdog refused a probe and said: 'We carefully considered a large number of complaints about this artistic routine, an area where freedom of expression is particularly important.'Diversity's performance referred to challenging and potentially controversial subjects, and in our view, its central message was a call for social cohesion and unity.'Any depictions of violence by the performers were highly stylised and symbolic of recent global events, and there was no explicit reference to any particular political organisation - but rather a message that the lives of black people matter.'Mr Morgan is also Editor at large for MailOnline and writes a twice weekly column for the website. A spokesman for MailOnline said: 'This is a very sad day for British free speech and one ITV will come to regret very quickly. We stand by Piers 120%.' LOADS MORE ON THE DM
WELL HE HAS CERTAIN MADE HIS OPINION CLEAR AND MANY AGREE, MYSELF INCLUDED! EVEN GIVEN PAST ERRORS HE IS TO BE COMMENDED FOR TAKING SUCH A PUBLIC STANCE!
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SIMM!MASTER x READER: “Do you believe in love?”
prompt #11 — requested
masterlist
pairing: simm!master x reader
description: visiting a famed romantic hotspot (to cause trouble, obviously) with the master leads to you pondering one major question: does he even believe in love?
warnings: angst, as ever with me writing the master !
words: 1,535
You leaned forward to rest your palms on your knees and catch your breath again as the Master, a few paces ahead of you, turned to laugh at your exasperated expression.
“Would you stop laughing at me?” you grumbled, standing up again and following him back into his TARDIS with a scowl on your face, “If you weren’t so intent on pissing off every species in the universe, I wouldn’t have to run so much and end up so bloody tired!”
He smirked, pausing at the TARDIS doors while you caught up to him, “You should be used to it now then, love.”
You followed him inside, your expression still irritated as you folded your arms over your chest dramatically.There he goes again, you thought with a sigh, calling you love whilst mocking you just as he always did.
It bothered you more today than usual, and you knew exactly why.
You’d been visiting the Four Moons of Tirus, famously frequented by couples for romantic getaways and often either weddings or honeymoons. Of course, travelling with the Master you knew that this hadn’t been a romance-fuelled trip -- instead, he wanted to cause chaos as ever and so dragged you along with him.
At first it had been fun, stealing food from buffet tables and skipping through fancy venues. But he’d torn you from a conversation with a Commander of a fleet attending a wedding on one of the Four Moons, and from then on the day had been miserable.
You’d hoped he was jealous -- you couldn’t deny Commander Fluxx II’s flirtation towards you -- but his behaviour crumpled your hopes swiftly.
Watching him flirt with taken women of every species weighed heavy on your chest for multiple reasons: One, you were admittedly jealous. Your feelings for the Master were becoming increasingly potent, and his teasing was becoming increasingly infuriating. And two, it felt shit to see him so blatantly disregard the notion of love and relationships.
Above all else, though, you were devastated by his reaction to being told you made a cute couple. Once he’d pulled you away from the commander, an elderly alien woman had winked and complimented you both, telling you that you were perfectly suited to eachother.
He’d scoffed, told the creature that you were ‘merely a companion, more like his pet’ and stormed away as though he’d never heard such a disgusting accusation in all of his existence.
You’d hoped maybe there’d been some small romantic undercurrent to him bringing you to the Four Moons, perhaps even if very subtle. Maybe he’d kiss you under the nightly Tirusian aurora, or buy you a bouquet of their native flowers.
But of course, he was just here to wreak havoc with you at his command.
You’d finally composed yourself now, no more jagged breaths as you stood at his side, hand on your hips, “Don’t you get bored of just messing with people’s feelings, Master?”
You were directly referring to his previous actions, but your words were laced with dismay at his disregard for your evident feelings, too.
“Whatever do you mean, Y/N?” he smirked, bringing his hand to his face in a falsely inquisitive manner.
“Well, that woman was literally stood next to her husband and you were blatantly disrespectful and embarrassingly flirtatious... the look on his face was terrifying, you’re lucky we got away or he’d have torn you to shreds. Did you see his claws?” you rambled, shuddering at the thought of the alien who’d chased you all the way back to the TARDIS.
“He would never have gotten to us, Y/N.” the Master too crossed his arms now, brows furrowed, “I don’t see what’s gotten you so riled up.” You could see in his face that he was lying. He knew. Of course he knew.
You grunted, shaking your head, “You spend all of your time treating people like they’re beneath you, like they’re expendable. You tease people, you flirt with people. Hell, you flirt with me. Then you go and act like I’m nothing but shit on the bottom of your shoes. You’re pathetic, frankly. Shameless, and pathetic.”
“Ah, so that’s what it’s about, us?”
You scoffed, “There isn’t an us, Master. Don’t you dare stand there so smug and talk like you even care about me. This isn’t about that. It’s about the fact that you’re selfish and self-important and you act like nothing matters to you. It’s ridiculous!”
Your chest was heaving as you spat these words at him, fury coursing through your every vein. You knew that it was obvious why you were predominantly angry, and that maybe you needed to calm down, but you were furious and upset and heartbroken all at once and this tornado of emotion couldn’t be stopped easily.
The room fell silent, the Master’s face no longer painted with a smirk but instead simply blank. You didn’t know what more to say for a moment, gathering your thoughts and trying to steady your erratic breathing.
You remained in silence for a good few minutes, both deep in thought and refusing to make eye contact with each other.
You let out a deep breath then, leaning forwards and resting your chin in your palm, “Do you believe in love?” you whispered, still avoiding his gaze and speaking so quietly he wasn’t sure he even heard you right.
He swallowed thickly, straightening his stance and relaxing his arms.
“I didn’t.”
“What?”
“I didn’t before. Believe in love, that is.”
“Before what?”
“You, Y/N.”
Your face twisted in confusion, eyes narrowing as they snapped up to meet his all of a sudden.
How on earth could he stand there and say that, especially seeming so serious, after all that had just happened? Did he really respect you so little that he believed providing you with such lies would give you enough false hope to stop being so angry with him?
“Please don’t say things like that. It’s not fair, and you know it isn’t.” you frowned, shaking your head again and biting your lip.
“I know it’s hard to believe, Y/N, but it’s true,” he shrugged, stepping towards you, “And that was why I brought you to the Four Moons of Tirus. At least initially.”
You cocked your head to the side, “Why were you acting like such an arsehole then?”
He raised his hand to rub over your upper arm for just a moment before returning it to his side, “Because when that disgusting Commander was shamelessly all over you I questioned the point of being in love, anyway.”
You were confused, and so said nothing, allowing him to continue.
“You called me pathetic, but you didn’t see his wife watch him touch you and run off crying,” he sighed, “So many species disregard love even when they claim to feel it. Why bother? I’ve spent long enough on my own, I needn’t fool myself into relying on someone when there’s every risk of ending up alone again anyway.”
You scoffed even more abruptly now, baffled by his words.
“So you got jealous and decided to be petty and hurt me anyway?” you questioned, venom dripping in your tone, “I’ve been waiting for some inkling that you cared about me, and now you finally tell me you love me and still somehow manage to invalidate that and make me feel worthless! I can’t keep playing your games, Master. I’m tired.”
He took your hands in his delicately, “I’ve spent so long alone, Y/N, you have to understand that. I never meant to fall in love with you, and a relationship with me would be about as dysfunctional as you could get. I don’t want to risk hurting you, or getting hurt myself.”
“Flirting with everyone under the sun and making me feel like I don’t matter won’t make feelings go away, Master,” you clenched your fingers around his, somewhat in an effort to reassure him whilst you were being honest, “You’re stuck with me, and I hate to break it to you but love doesn’t just dissipate overnight, even if you claim it’s ‘pointless’ anyway.”
“I’m sorry Y/N. And I’m sorry for ruining what could’ve been a chance to make things up to you.” he pouted, and you felt your stomach swarm with butterflies.
“Look, I’m not going to tell you I forgive you, but I’ll give you the chance to prove that this is more than just some twisted game of yours, because I’m that stupid human whose gone and fallen in love with you, eh,” you half-joked, bringing your entwined hands up to kiss the back of his, “I overheard one of the Commander’s fleet talking about the Perpetual Sunsets of Parboon. It’s like... always sunset and sounds incredible. Take me there?”
He nodded, kissing your temple and swiveling towards the TARDIS console with a newly returned smile. Your heart warmed; It wasn’t his usual arrogant smirk now, but instead a smile of genuine happiness.
“Parboon it is,” he grinned, pulling you closer to his side, “But if any silly alien soldiers make a pass at you again, I won’t be so kind to them this time.”
“Sure, spaceman,” you rolled your eyes teasingly, “Whatever you say.”
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hello !! thank u for the request & i hope you enjoyed this, not sure how i feel about the ending but i wasn’t sure how to wrap it up, i hope this was alright though !!
feel free to keep requesting as ever, here is my prompt list if you’re short of ideas, and here’s my masterlist for you to read for the time being! thanks again for reading & supporting my writing, i really appreciate it <3
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I also wanted to make a slight follow up post, so here’s an addendum to my last commentary:
I couldn’t care less about ‘blah blah Adam Driver is a precious boy and we must protect him’ garbage. If you think my commentary on how creepy stalker behaviour is has anything to do with me protecting some guy I’ve never met: you’re projecting grossly. He’s a grown man who is more than capable of looking out for himself.
However, I do think the following things:
1. That celebrities are not commodities for us to use - they are human beings. Who are flawed, who are human, who almost always struggle under the pressure of fame as a result of fans who take things way too far. And that the result of that interaction can be serious, and damaging, for both parties;
2. That I brush shoulders with people who enjoy Adam Driver’s work daily, because those people read my work (and often visa versa) and that a small selection of those individuals are engaging in frankly disgusting behaviour and discourse;
3. That those behaviours have often been normalized and have been proliferated by fairly well-known people, and therefore aren’t scrutinized like they should be;
4. That we should all be consuming content in a way that is conscious of the world we want to live in, which is doubly important if you have a fandom presence, and triply important if you know people are proudly communicating to you these behaviours because they feel you’ll support them.
If I was in the Sebastian Stan fandom, in the Chris Evans fandom, in the Benedict Cumberbatch fandom - I’d be making posts about them when I saw creepy behaviour. But I’m not; I’m here instead.
Adam Driver’s life is none of my goddamn business. I don’t know him, and he sure as fuck doesn’t know me. But I do know creepy, leery, stalking behaviour. I know what an unhealthy relationship with a celebrity looks like. I know what it looks like when people try to justify that behaviour, to themselves and others.
Frankly; fandoms are a passing phase in people’s lives. I don’t expect most of this to endure. But whether we’re willing to condone or condemn dangerous behaviour? That just might.
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would you please go on an excessive rant about kawoshin? i got a pack of popcorn to microwave i got time
Alright, there’s a whole variety of topics to address here. I think I’ll just make a long bulletpoint list. I’m trying to be reasonable in my saltiness but I’ve lost my patience with the anti-kawoshin stuff. Though if I’m wrong about anything I say on a technical level, I apologize.
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I’m not surprised by the presence of dudebro fans per se. I’ve never been in a fandom with some level of mass appeal where they didn’t appear. What I’m baffled by is that they don’t just hate Eva considering that, for all the debate around whether ep24 was gay, it’ certainly something they would find gay for two guys to do and the mental gymnastics to no homo kawoshin are way more convoluted. I guess I’m becoming tired of this type of person. And of the fact that every meta community requires one to never say the word ‘gay’ even once, or everything else will be instantly dismissed. Eva is where I officially lost it regarding this topic because it’s so very obviously gay that denying it sounds like straight-up satire. But what do I know, they’re the Serious Fans and I’m just some delusional fangirl, I guess. Let them keep being smug, because clearly, “realism” is acting like lgbt people don’t exist, they got us, it was all a conspiracy to fuck with them.
What is up with the wiki’s editing? Don’t get me wrong, I’m grateful for the work that went into compiling all the information but the ep24 first draft’s wiki page? The exaggerated emphasis placed on it being ‘Just a draft that was rejected!!!!’ And the added commentary on how a lot of draft materials are ‘ABSOLUTELY NOT ANNO’S AUTHORIAL INTENT’ which begins to diverge from the article’s topic itself. They went as far as bolding the phrase. All of this, after explaining that Satsukawa’s drafts are written based on a general outline Anno gives him... Question of the day: what outline did Anno give Satsukawa that led to him writing that draft? The 1-2 episodes’ worth of homoeroticism, you know. Not to mention the actual ep24, the one that was okayed by Anno, which is still, frankly, really gay. Truly, whoever edited that article was the shining star of intellect. Congratulations!
And, about the quest to prove Shinji’s straight, I find it intriguing that every. single. person. brings up the fact that he jacked off to comatose Asuka. Because any normal display of being attracted to women or any of his erotic mental imagery couldn’t have done, you had to pick that as the typical behaviour to represent straight people. Interesting. I don’t understand their rituals, unfortunately. I figure they just wank to unconscious people on the regular since they love talking about it so much.
Meanwhile bisexual people let out a soft sigh at this whole discussion.
My favourite phenomenon, and the one I was originally going to complain about, is the group of people who took the step of admitting kawoshin is canon, but because they’re sore losers they’re trying to demonstrate how it’s unhealthy. I don’t like having to say all of this because some of the analysts on board with this, I actually like a fair amount. But sorry, if it’s a stupid idea, then it’s a stupid fucking idea and I can’t act like it’s not. So, apparently, Kaworu=bad because he’s too idealized and conforms too perfectly with what Shinji wants, and that’s impossible for human beings so that’s — allegedly — why he turns out to be an angel and has to die. I think the second half of this interpretation has elements that make sense. Maybe. In that I agree that having to kill Kaworu was relevant to the plot and Shinji’s character development (‘unraveling’ might be a more accurate word...). But it’s not because there was any problem with kawoshin as a relationship; it’s because Shinji has to learn not to rely on outside factors for self-worth. That doesn’t say anything about how good those outside factors are for him in themselves, just that he has a tendency of making his own value depend on them whether they’re healthy things or not. Declaring Kaworu to be a negative influence because he’s ‘not a Real Person’ is akin to saying Shinji would be better off hanging out with the ‘Real People’ in his life. The choices for healthy bonds are then: 1) Misato, who has issues with drinking and sex and has made moves on Shinji while being twice his age 2) Rei, who is debatably even a single entity and is a clone of Shinji’s mother that he occasionally sees as a substitute for her 3) Asuka, who continuously talks shit to him, beats him up, expects him to fulfill her desires for precocious sexual maturity and is completely insensitive to anything bad happening to him, including the time he almost died 4) Gendo. I’m being harsh. I appreciate all of these characters and it’s independently from their individual complexity that I observe how they keep trying to dump their own issues on Shinji. I don’t know if it’s about gender. I’m never quite sure.
I can’t say much about the Netflix dub that hasn’t been said already. For one thing, changing ‘love’ to ‘like’ makes no sense in terms of the plot. For another, I agree that phrasing means little to nothing with the visuals on screen. But, just to add something to it, the next time I see someone piggybacking on this discourse to express their “sympathy for how the translators are being treated”, I want them to know that it’s really transparent. Also that anyone from the staff could have said “I did this because it’s my job but I don’t think it was a good choice to translate it like that” at any point. But, for all I know, maybe Netflix is some kind of corporate dictatorship where you can’t express mild disagreement with your colleague’s work or you get instantly fired. I don’t quite care what emotional state translators are in because of the backlash. With this attitude, we’d be obligated to suck it up with any divisive higher decision, lest we hurt someone’s feelings by disliking it. It would have been so easy to keep the phrase in. Absolutely no effort. This was done, I believe, intentionally to pander to dudebros because a lot of people involved probably had no clear understanding of what Eva is and which people it attracts, so they went with ‘eh, it’s probably the average mecha fans’. Companies like this want you to sit back and stay comfortable and amoebic, never being exposed to anything that pokes at your sensitivities — so lgbt content needs to be in a segregated place, available for The Gays while everyone else can peacefully avoid it. And we’ll all be content and appeased and really fucking dopamine-hooked on online streaming. It’s gonna be really, really funny when everyone finds out Eva is centered around subversion with or without the homosexual undertones.
To make it clear, I have no way of knowing what goes on in Anno’s head and I would never blame him for anything considering he created kawoshin and Eva as a whole, things that had a positive effect on me. It needs to be said though; are we sure that and only that which he says publicly is an accurate canon fact about the show? Do we really think his public statements don’t go through any filters, especially when it’s about topics like homosexuality? He already got so many death threats over the tv ending that he got pissed and made EoE. Can you imagine what would happen if he declared kawoshin to be canon? Just ponder on this before taking it for granted that him not saying there was a romantic relationship between them means there wasn’t.
Tangentially related; Anno’s “it wasn’t carnal” as well as the draft rejection seems more related to how the ep24 draft would have, according to the staff, looked like borderline porn. I think our perspective on how far Eva goes is a bit skewed by the clusterfuck in EoE. None of the kids really had carnal desires in the original series — no, not even Asuka, she thought she did because of her issues but it’s fairly clear from her introspection and breakdown that she likes only the idea of being physically intimate but is kind of disgusted by the reality of it (washing her mouth after just kissing Shinji), as people normally are at fourteen. I take Anno’s statement more as “Shinji wasn’t blushing because he was turned on”, not that he didn’t like Kaworu romantically.
I find a lot of discussion around representation formulaic and word salad-ish. The same niche terms with no distinct meaning thrown together in random combinations. But I think I understand it somewhat now, to a small degree. I was so happy about kawoshin. I was genuinely so, so happy. Granted, my expectations for canon lgbt are so low they’re approaching the Earth’s core, but this ship gives me so many positive feelings that I don’t want it taken away from me. I don’t have it in me to engage in anyone’s intricate debates on whether it’s canon or not and I have absolutely no time or care for straight fans’ gaslighting on the issue.
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I refuse to engage further with this person on this any longer because it’s pointless and further, circular engagement on their part will most definitely be getting them blocked; however, there are a few things I wanted to point out about their last response to me:
Even if what you say is true...
This just demonstrates to me how absolutely obtuse antis are. Like, I’ve talked about the concept of ‘true believers’ before, and this person definitely is one. Even in the face of ample sources, they...still cling to their indoctrination.
It’s still gross to ship paedophilia.
That’s an opinion, not a fact. Morals are subjective 100%. Not everyone has the same set of morals, and it’s a really deep, philosophical discussion we’d have to have in order to establish any universal morals.
Like, honestly, even if there are NO repercussions, it’s still disgusting and unacceptable.
In real life? Absolutely, I would agree. In fiction? Completely alright because you’re right: there are no repercussions. The idea that it’s ‘disgusting’ and ‘unacceptable’ in fiction is also an opinion--see point on morals being subjective above.
Furthermore, I’d like to point out that this person has insulted me and called me stupid or implied as much several times despite the fact that they admit they’d do the same, even if we agreed on the fact that there are no repercussions. Very telling of antis on the whole, in my opinion.
I shouldn’t have to prove something like this is wrong for you to understand that it is wrong.
Uhh, yes the fuck you do. Firstly, this brings us back to my point on morality. Secondly, this speaks greatly to the cult-like operations of the anti community. They accept whatever is told to them about xyz as fact instead of reading into themselves. Not like Christian fundamentalism at all /s/.
To ship a type of relationship that is inherently harmful in real life is a problem in and of itself.
Though I’m sure you didn’t do this intentionally, the wording of this sentence highlights the debate that they can’t seem to come up with any actual evidence for: yes, those relationships are wrong in real life. The conversation we’re having is about fiction. If you can’t seem to tell the difference, there’s a serious mental health problem with you, personally.
Furthermore, you’re not able to prove that any of the presumed societal harms are actually occurring. I’ve provided plenty of evidence that demonstrates that there are no negative, real-life impacts. What’s important here is real-world harms. So, yes you DO need to provide evidence because otherwise, you’re just expecting me to limit my own behaviour and police my thoughts based on something that isn’t hurting anyone at all. Sounds ridiculous when you look at it this way, doesn’t it?
I don’t know how to explain to you that abuse is unacceptable in all its forms and should never be presented in a positive light.
Again, in real life, I would agree with you about abuse being a bad thing. But fiction isn’t real life. That’s why it’s called fiction. Look, buddy, I’ve been abused psychologically, emotionally, and sexually. I think I understand how detrimental abuse can be in someone’s life. But what YOU can’t seem to understand is that again, portraying abuse in fiction like it’s the greatest thing ever a) isn’t hurting anyone as we’ve already established and b) is used by me, specifically, as a coping mechanism.
Anything goes in fiction, so I write about terrible, abhorrent topics all the time. It helps me to grapple with what I’ve been through. None of the abuse I experienced was physical, and because that’s what most people seem to focus on when they talk about or write about abuse, it’s easier for me to understand what happened and to deal with it when it’s presented as something physical. No one is entitled to the details of my--or anyone elses’--trauma, but I see this as a learning tool. I’m not hurting anyone. I’m not retraumatising myself. And I’m definitely not desensitising myself to anything because I know how bad it hurts. And even if I didn’t, fiction doesn’t have the power to convince me that it’s okay.
I’m far too lazy to find sources, and I know you’ll use that against me
You’re damn right about that. It’s not a debate if there’s no evidence.
But I need you to know that none of your information sways my belief that incest and paedophilia is wrong.
Cool. That doesn’t much matter to me. Again, I can only hope that one day you’ll see the anti movement for what it is. I hope you’ll see what damage it causes in peoples’ lives. I hope you’ll see that it talks over victims like myself because I have the audacity to not agree with them.
But, frankly, I don’t care. Like I said in my responses, the information wasn’t for you. It’s for any observers on the fence. It’s to demonstrate that antis don’t really have any actual facts on their side. Thank you for your participation in this educational opportunity. Again, I wish you all the best.
And you pointed out that anti culture is wrong but that isn’t a valid argument when neither I nor Pikachu has done anything wrong to you.
Well, look at the pot calling the kettle black, dear gods. You seem to understand that personal belief is not an argument...yet you offer be no evidence and are convinced you don’t have to...okay
And, mate, I could pull hella receipts if that’s the conversation that you want to have.
Furthermore, sure, neither of you have done anything ‘wrong’ to me y’know aside from repeatedly insulting me but I care for the pro shippers who have been harassed. Luckily, I don’t have enough of a platform to pull in haters like the tide does trash to the beach. But I also happen to be a somewhat empathetic person? Just because something didn’t happen to me specifically doesn’t mean that I won’t stand up for the people it IS happening to and has happened to.
Anyway, that’s all folks.
#mod Fiver#original#pro shipping#anti discourse#antis being antis#abuse tw#paedophilia mention#incest mention#pro writer freedom#fiction does not affect reality#long post
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Honestly, as far as Harley being sexualized, I wouldn't have minded as much if it wasn't so obvious that it was the only goal of the new costume. It barely even resembles a CLOWN (much less a harlequin, making the her redundant). Harley can be sexual if she wants and has been in reasonable amounts, but her sole purpose in the film more or less being eye-candy aggravates me, too. (Besides, if they wanted sexy, what's sexier that's a skintight jester suit? Clearly, Ayer was trying too hard.)
Okay here we go, here’s my two cents on this entire subject, idk if we’re ready for this…….
now, the thing with Harley Quinn is, part of her uniqueness came from not being inherently “sexy” at all. her entire demeanour and appearance was designed to be endearing and ultimately, cute. this, at the time of her conception set her apart from a literal MASS of sexualised female characters, something the comic book world has always been guilty of, with every female having the same seductive facial features, same body, same huge breasts, same overly sexual seductive behaviours when faced with their male counterparts… which, sure, is an issue on its own and I’m not going to go into that here.
my point is harley was different, she was designed differently, her face was different and even her mannerisms and actions and poses were different to the other female cartoons in the same show. she appealed HUGELY to a female fanbase due to this uniqueness and less male-gazey approach to her character. being cute, funny and endearing in the comic world for a female character was a rarity – and female fans latched onto her from the moment of her first appearances because she differed from the predictable norm in the comic book world. girls and women latched onto harley because she was a better representation, more relatable, more fleshed out through her quirks than her appearance design.
and I resent the repeated arguement that Harley Quinn was always a sexual character. using examples like her normal dress sense ( crop tops and shorts ) or her sexual interest in the Joker ( or Ivy for that matter ) makes her predominantly overtly sexual. she wasn’t. her character was flirtatious sure, but sexually amped? no. she was far more focused on the idealised view of traditional romance, wining, dining, marriage and family than anything particularly sexual. this idea of harley came much, much later with severe appearance changes and personality changes to sexualise her. and this isn’t to say harley hasn’t had her sexy moments, like every woman on earth has, or hadn’t a sexual appetite as people do. but it predominantly was not huge defining part of her character like it is today, it was balanced and not the entirety of her personality or image.
some of Harley Quinn’s personality traits were also negative ( but still important and well fleshed out ) as the Joker’s clingy, needy, jealous girlfriend. they gave her a lot of traits that aren’t viewed sexually. she rejected and was violent towards leery men as opposed to playing on it. she was jealous of women who acted sexually towards the joker ( or even if they didn’t.) she was threatened by sexual behaviour that wasn’t within her control or boundaries she felt secure where she ( may have sometimes wrongfully ) felt loved and wanted. these of course all being relatable traits despite not being inherently good ones. because of this harley quinn was an easy character to connect to. both her cute and endearing demeanour, and her very obvious flaws. she was beloved because of this from the beginning.
however, she has gone from being the round-eyed, clumsy, funny and cute character, to one that licks the rusty bars of her prison cell provocatively. she is represented in scenes wherein the joker ( playing a game or not ) comes off as a pimp in their relationship. we get ass shots, pointless scenes where she unclothed or barely clothed for the sole point of “sexy”, a brief scene with her in nothing but underwear in a moment of madness ( i’ll go into this piece of awful in a moment… ) we see her void of her previous personality to make way for obvious sexualization. and we can’t just blame david ayer and suicide squad for this. DC made the deliberate effort to make her the new Joker Lite come new 52 – but instead of being an exact replica of the joker, we see her sexualized constantly because she is a female character. this wasn’t, for the majority of harley’s existence, not a part of her character or personality – and they altered her image and personality so drastically to make room for what was blatant sexualization. even her harley quinn cartoon had ass shots, I mean, really? c��mon. it’s so blatant that I don’t see how this can even be argued at this point with the character – other than for those who didn’t really know her prior to these changes.
now when we talk about women owning their sexuality, we are talking about real women, with real choices. here we are talking about a character that has, for the most part, not been an inherently sexual character, to one that has been altered by writers, artists and now a director and art team to absolutely be so. concept art alone ( regardless of the final product ) had her legs spread open on a gurney during a scene of torture. in the suicide squad novel we are told that she is a sex-starved animal. even the joker, who I don’t believe is very sexual AT ALL, views her as a sexual object. She isn’t even the same character anymore. it’s not even they’ve just amped up her image to appeal sexually – they’ve completely and utterly changed her in her entirety. all of her previous uniqueness and quirks have been stripped away to make room for this new image.
and there are serious problems here. ESPECIALLY with the movie, with her acting far more sporadic and Crazy (trademark) than what we’ve known prior. putting her mental health so obviously at the forefront, while making her also a sexual object, is obviously wrong on so many levels I won’t even go into it right now. it’s obvious, it’s not a great choice, certainly not a well-thought out one. the fact that the joker himself practically uses her mental vulnerability for sexual gain is – well, frankly disgusting. while we’re equally sold that “this time we finally see the joker in love!” i’m not even going to go into how they’ve altered the joker to fit this sexually charged narrative into their story because that’s another massive rant all of it’s own.
and like you said, there’s nothing “clown-like” performance like, or Harley-like about her anymore. she’s a new character practically, save for the name – using age-old tropes that at this point, should have died a death in both comics and cinema. I could speak on this with more detail and more resources, but honestly, I’m sick of the manhandling of her character, her image, and then to be fed the utter lie that it is somehow empowerment so we can swallow it better. I’m not an idiot, I can see what they’ve done and frankly, I do not appreciate the complete ruin of one of my favourite characters to adhere to the male gaze.
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Perfect (Pete Dunne X Reader)
WARNING - VIOLENCE AND DOMESTIC ABUSE AHEAD. YALL HAVE BEEN WARNED. IF ITS A TRIGGER PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DONT READ. You were alone. Well actually you weren't alone. Your boyfriend was actually there with you. But you wished he wasn't. He was in one of his nastier moods and honestly he scared you when he was. He could get very aggressive and once he even became violent. But he'd told you he'd never do it again and you believed him. And an hour later he'd left leaving you by yourself for a little you time which quite frankly you needed. You loved your boyfriend more than anything in the world. Well almost more than anything or anybody. The exception to that was your twin brother Tyler who you lived with and your housemates Trent and Pete. The door swung open and in walked the three men you lived with and the groceries they'd volunteered to get once your boyfriend had arrived. And you were well aware of why they'd agreed so easily. You knew they couldn't stand your boyfriend. But you had no idea why. He'd not done anything wrong. You frowned as you thought but quickly shook your head. The feeling of hate was returned. Your boyfriend couldn't stand any of them which hurt you a lot. He constantly tried to make you leave them but he was just worried about losing you. Well that's what you thought. His main problem was that the guys could see right through him and he didn't like that. He couldn't play them like he played you which you were completely oblivious to. And his biggest problem lay with the one and only Pete Dunne. You see, you had no idea but Pete was very much into you as more than a friend. However Pete valued his friendship with your twin and as a result, much to his unhappiness, you were strictly off limits. He'd never even brought up the subject to your brother. And your boyfriend had clicked that you felt the same. He was threatened by Pete so they were always at each other's throats. And it drove you crazy let me tell you. Trent had come and flopped onto to sofa next to you and rested an arm casually over your shoulders. Trent, bless him, had been like an older brother to you. And you loved him to bits. 'Good day kid?' He asked ruffling your hair. 'Yeah it was alright' you said sighing slightly. 'That prick was here, of course it was only alright' Pete sneered and Tyler and Trent both laughed at his comment. You frowned at Pete and stormed away. Stupid asshole you cursed at him in your head. You didn't understand why they all hated him so much. What had he ever done to them? But you brushed it aside and spent the next few days back to your normal behaviour of joking around with the guys. 'Hey, Y/N we're just heading out for a bit. We'll see you later' Tyler called out closing the door behind him. Not bothering to lock it as you were staying home that day. You sat peacefully for an hour just watching your favourite show Brooklyn Nine Nine before the door slammed open making you jump out of your skin. You turned and saw your boyfriend stood there glaring angrily at you. 'Whats wrong?' You asked concerned walking over to him. He didn't reply with words but instead grabbed you by your neck and slammed you against the wall holding you up by your neck making it very difficult to breathe. You thrashed around trying to get some leverage to remove his hands from you but only received a sharp blow to your stomach making you gasp and claw at his hand trying to find some room to breathe. But he kept his grip and kept hitting you. Hard. And then his fist found your face. Your nose took the particularly hard hit and blood started pouring down you face as he hit your cheek, cutting your cheek open. You felt the inside of your mouth start to bleed and you wanted to throw up. The lack of air was making you dizzy as was the amount of blood leaving your body. Then the door opened quietly. Your boyfriend, and soon to be deadman, hadn't heard it but you had seen Pete come in and his demeanour changed when he saw what was in front of him. He slammed the door shut making the doorframe rattle and your assailant turned his head slowly to see Pete rushing forwards to him. He was in full attack mode and honestly you didn't think you'd ever seen him so angry. His jaw was clenched tightly as he ripped his grip from you before pushing him away and letting you into the floor gently where you gasped as air freely filled your lungs. You were breathing through your mouth due to your nose still bleeding as you watched the scene unfold. Pete was going crazy. Punching him repeatedly in the face not giving him room to breathe. And you had to stop him. You groaned as you managed to get to your feet and slowly made your way to Pete and tugged on his arm gently and as soon as he saw your face he let go of the man and looked at him in disgust before pushing him away to run out of your house. Pete didn't say anything, instead he picked you up as gently as possible and carried you into your bathroom and sat you down on the floor. He filled the basin full of warm water and took a soft cloth and started to clean you up in complete silence. You studied his face and smiled internally as he looked over you with care once he'd gotten rid of all the blood. The picked you up again and brought you back through to the living room and went to the freezer and brought out bags of ice and frozen peas to put on places in your body before sitting next to you just watching as your relaxed into the sofa as the cold helped your wounds. You could hear the chatter from the hallway and Pete's jaw clenched whilst your stomach became full of knots. Tyler stopped when he saw you and then ran straight over. 'What happened?' He asked worriedly. 'My now ex' you said quietly whilst Pete stiffened next to you. 'He did this' Trent asked and Pete simply nodded in response. 'I'm going to kill him' both men said in unison. Tyler growled whereas Trent was shouting. And your ex was now in jail. With a few broken bones thanks to the boys. And as long as it didn't get them into trouble you were happy to let them do what they want. Pete however had not left your side. The only time you were alone was when you were in the bathroom. You slept in his room, in his bed, and he kept an arm on you when you slept. And oddly enough it wasn't weird for the two of you. You didn't change the way you were with each other still messing and joking around. Just him always being there. And of course Tyler had started to catch on. He watched you and Pete with intrigue. He'd never noticed the way Pete looked at you but after over-protective twin mode had activated he'd suddenly realised. Pete's entire body language changed around you. He was softer and kinder. His eyes softened when he looked at you. The genuine smile that dared to tease its presence on his lips. Pete really like you. Tyler chuckled as he saw the two of you messing around with each other. It was so obvious how the two of you felt about each other. But he knew Pete. And he knew he'd never act on it out of respect for him. So he knew he'd have to speak to Pete to say it was ok to make a move on you. He trusted him with you and knew he'd never hurt you. Pete looked over at you and smiled. In his eyes you were absolutely perfect. He still couldn't understand why anybody could ever hurt you. Why he would even want to. You were funny, kind, compassionate and absolutely beautiful. 'Hey Pete' Tyler called out and Pete looked around at him. 'Yeah?' He asked gruffly. 'Can you come and give me a hand for a minute?' Tyler asked and Pete grumbled something under his breath before going to help your twin. 'What do you need help with?'Pete asked as Tyler pulled him aside. 'Look I know you have a thing for Y/N' Tyler started and Pete's jaw clenched. 'I'm sorry' Pete said looking at his feet. 'Don't be. I'm saying you should do something about it. I can see she returns any feelings you have for her. Do something about it' he said and Pete looked ridiculously surprised. 'Are you serious?' He asked and Tyler nodded. 'I trust you. Just don't hurt her. Or I'll punch your teeth down your throat' he said casually patting Pete on the shoulder who now had a small smile on his face. He looked back over at you and took a deep breath before walking your way...
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Casualty S32 Episodes 8-14
Finally got caught up. Since this is SO historical now, I’m going to put the whole lot under a cut, save dashboards!!!
Casualty S32 Episode 8
I found the COTW here pretty heartbreaking, the elderly couple with the woman dying from COPD.
Connie finally confirms to Ethan that the patient she's been discussing with him is herself. And then proceeds to blackmail him about his role in Scott Ellison's death, in order to force him to perform an off-the-books emergency embolectomy to save her arm. Great leadership skills!
Alicia passed her driving test, despite being a shockingly awful driver, already responsible for several accidents. Nice.
Casualty S32 Episode 9
Nosy and unpleasant Louise has discovered Sanosi. It gives her an excuse to be rude and aggressive to Dylan, lots. But, don't forget folks, we're supposed to like Louise because she always does the 'right thing' in the end - in this case, spiriting Sanosi off Dylan's boat, just in time to save the day as Connie goes barrelling in, expecting to find something.
Lily is jealous of Iain and Sam's easy relationship. She can't see that Sam is 'a lad' and Iain is so much a lad that he barely hit puberty, and frankly, she's never going to get the grown up relationship she wants from him.
A return of the transgender morgue worker, which was good - I like her. And most of all, I loved the chat between her and Max, where he tells her all about Zoe, and how she left because she was afraid of happiness, and how he thinks about what his life with her would have been like every day. It broke my heart a little. You don't get chemistry like theirs every day, and I wish she hadn't left - him or the country!
Casualty S32 Episode 10
Elle and Marty. Here is where I amuse myself with my outraged old lady rant... Now, I'm not a single mother of three boys, but I'm pretty sure if I was, I wouldn't be having men over to shag in my house unless I was sure that a) it was a solid relationship, and b) they had met my kids in a low stress environment. I don't deny the fact that Elle has a right to a life, including a love life, outside her role as a mother, BUT, as a mother, her kids need to come first when managing such a life, and part of that means setting an example. In this day and age where kids learn WAY too much of their sexual knowledge from porn, I'm not sure it pays as a parent to model anything like a promiscuous lifestyle, and for her kids to come in and find a complete stranger in bed with their mother... Well... You see where I'm coming from. On the flip side, I may not be an Elle fan, but anything that highlights any sort of relationship chances for us older women, in whatever orientation, then I say, you go, girl!
But, also in the story. I don't know how old Blake is supposed to be, but isn't he a bit old for the 'if Mum gets a partner, I'm afraid she won't love me any more' thing? I don't know that much about teenaged boys, but it didn't ring entirely true for me. Going with the chilli powder being nothing more than a practical joke would have sat with me better.
Dylan. I feel really awful for him right now, as someone who doesn't forge relationships easily, he was clearly really attached to Sanosi. Of course, he did the right thing, he's perfectly right that Sanosi could never have the life that he dreams of when always on the run and in hiding, and it was perfectly valid that Sanosi wouldn't be able to see that, and would only see how Dylan had let him down. With Dylan's own history of OCD and mental health problems, I will be interested to see where this development drives him. I am always happy for more Dylan on the screen.
Connie. Right, so her tumour is malignant. Worst possible news. And she's still burying her head. I'm all for not rushing storylines, but I think we need to move on this one, folks. I love Connie, and like Dylan, I am happy for her to have screen time, but dragging this storyline out much more risks losing its momentum, and for it to just become boring. IMO!
COTW, I'm still not sure why the girl was put into care. As a mother, if there is any risk that your partner might in any way hurt your child, don't you ditch the partner and keep the child, rather than ditching the kid??!! I know that jury was out as to whether partner hit mother, but surely all the more reason? Incidentally, I do appreciate how hard it is for some people to escape from domestic violence, but the mother didn't seem like an utterly downtrodden victim to me. Comments welcome from folk who may know far more about it than I do, and no offence meant if I've shown ignorance.
Casualty S32 Episode 11
So, there's a new F1 called Rash, who pukes when he gets nervous and makes lots of mistakes.
Lily and Iain's relationship is a little strained after her jealousy toward Sam, and Lily wants to apply for the project in Hong Kong, but after Iain comes back round and stops giving her the cold shoulder, she self sabotages her presentation so she doesn't have to make a decision. Everything I've just said is wrong on so many levels. I think the way Iain treats Lily is pretty vile. He has a right to be angry over the ketchup/Sam incident, but not to give her the cold shoulder every time she doesn't behave according to his doctrine. He's just a spoiled little brat. And as for self sabotaging for a man, well, need I say more about the stupidness?!! Still, good for her for finally making the right decision, even in the face of Iain's grand and embarrassing karaoke gesture!
COTW continues the theme of unhealthy relationships, with the love triangle of man leaving partner for her best friend. Wake up, best friend, like that dude was ever going to be trustworthy! Proven by his about face at the end. Good for the woman to turn him away in favour of supporting her friend. Who is still her friend, despite the attempt to run off with her man? I'm all for sisterly support, but even I think that might be going a bit far...
Casualty S32 Episode 12
'I know what you did'! Perhaps a wee bit childish of Max, but pretty serious overreaction from Ethan! I hope this Scott Ellison guilt won't be everlasting, because although in reality, I'm sure it will stay with him forever, as a viewer, it's a bit like flogging a dead dog...
I was intially pleased when it was announced Sam was to return to Casualty. And happy to see her for her first couple of episodes. But tonight has helped to remind me just how annoying she could be. I mean, she threw Iain's phone out of a moving ambulance window!! In WHAT UNIVERSE could she possibly imagine that this behaviour might be acceptable??!!! Phones aren't 50p, and people rely on them (rightly or wrongly) to live their entire lives! I can't even begin to articulate how disgusting I think her behaviour was. And Iain more or less let her get away with it. Euch.
Slightly different COTW in the former abuse victim ambushing then manipulating the paedophile into holding up a store. I think the storyline was all kinds of uncomfortable, from witnessing the psychological damage to the victims, shown in the evidence of Ocean's self harm, and the fact that she feels the only think open to her now is to mount a personal vendetta on abusers, by deliberately seeking them out through chat rooms, and attempting to force their arrests through other means. I think the fact that she didn't seem to understand the gravity of what she had done, in terms of the safety of innocent bystanders (collateral damage?) spoke volumes to the degree of psychological trauma that she had experienced. And that is not even mentioning the presence of the paedophile himself, a father to two young children.
The other COTW was the homeless man, who had been picked up for a one night stand by someone of some seeming privilege. I'm not sure what this story was designed to highlight - perhaps a seasonal reminder that homeless people are rarely homeless by choice, but rather caught in a cycle that try as they may, they're unable to break. Perhaps this could have been a more powerful story if it hadn't been chosen to play against the far more hardhitting paedophile case.
Casualty S32 Episode 13
It's about time we got some closure on the Robyn/Glen storyline. I rather enjoyed the huge flashback/fill in the gap section of this episode, I'm not saying I was ever a massive Glen fan, but it was an interesting and refreshing change. I felt a little bad for him at how badly people treated him - on the one hand, I know he walked out on Robyn at the altar, which is an unbelievably shitty thing to do (he should have done it before 'the day' ;-)), and I really dislike people's propensity to 'know' what's best for other people - by and large, folk should have the right to make up their own mind; but regardless of all that, I think it's safe to say his heart was in the right place, and there was of course a little more to it than your average jilting.
Robyn 'He's here to hold his daughter. Who was here to hold me through all of this?' Selfish, selfish person, surrounded by family and friends, support on every side - Charlie and Duffy giving her and her daughter a home, everyone rushing round to be there for her at every turn. I shake my head at her.
On the plus side, lots of 'Dee Dee' in the flashback, which was a winner. I like the mention of his past drunken reveal to Zsa Zsa about his crazy family. Do we know much about his crazy family? Has it been covered before? I'm dredging my memories, but coming up blank. If anyone does have any recollections, do tell me...
One thought I do have about this episode, which is likely highly controversial - as a non-religious person, why is Robyn getting Charlotte christened? I could understand (although not really agree) if Robyn was a churchgoer herself, but why do it since she's not? To cover bases? I think that's rather missing the point of religion, no? (This taken from E12, where Max says he doesn't know why she's doing it as she's not religious and neither is he...) Now, I could continue talking about my opinions on this for some time, but I don't want to get soap boxy, so I shall desist. Plus side of this part for me? Yay, Lexy!
Casualty S32 Episode 14
So, last episode wasn't merely closure for the Robyn/Glen storyline. Because Glen is back. As a porter. Short or long term, I wonder? After all, we know his tumour hasn't been cured, although it's at bay. Ah, well, we'll see. Still, lots of chances to see people be unnecessarily mean to him.
Thank goodness Connie has finally started her chemo. Ethan in charge of the ED, fairly unsurprising that he should initially make a hash of it, only to save the day! I liked that he took Connie there, then went and collected her afterward, though.
COTWs, young boy looking after younger brother suffering from CO poisoning. I really hoped they could stay together.
Priest with a tattoo trying to remove it because he thinks his new congregation won't like it. Is that a thing? I thought priests only felt guilty in the eyes of their god? After all, if he was comfortable enough to get the tattoo in the first place, why on earth would other peoples opinion matter that much??!!
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