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imagine you were born hungry. imagine you were born with a hole in your gut that can never be filled, that is always writhing.
you are a mirror. you were born a mirror, surrounded by mirrors. the first thing you ever know is that you are not human. the second thing is that you are not him. you are a reflection, with his face and his voice and the people who loved him. you can mimic him, pretend so well that you are not anything else, but you cannot escape the aching hunger in your stomach, in your mouth.
he cared for the other one, the you-but-not-you. you hear that you died in his arms once. you don't know how to feel about that; you don't know him, don't care (because you're not him even though you want).
nevertheless, you are drawn to him. maybe it's the way he looks at you, guilty and frustrated and awe-struck all at once, a complicated mixture of feelings that has you shying away and inching closer, bit by bit. you decide you like the way he looks when he's happy, though you'd never say it to his face.
that's probably why you don't say anything, when the world twists, soft graphite and watercolors. because you like seeing him happy.
this world is good enough. it doesn't matter if it isn't real, it can be good enough. you can be alive. he can love you like he loved him be happier here, without the pressure, without the fear. isn't that good? why can't it be good enough for him?
you know you don't matter to him, not like the real you. you know that when he looks at your face, all he sees is the other one. he doesn't understand. it's not fair. it's not fair. you want something for yourself for once.
he says he'd die, if that's what you wanted. standing on the precipice. his heels slip over the edge, hanging in space. you want. you do not want. you want, but not like this. you imagine his body below the city lights, arranged like he's sleeping, a halo of red seeping into his hair. you wonder what forever looks like with him, what it might look like without him. he would die for you. you have never been so afraid of that.
he pulls you over the edge, hands entangled.
you are the only one who can stop this. you are the only one who can save him.
(part of you doesn't want to. part of you is selfish, and aching, and hungry.)
(what would he have done?)
you catch him. save his life. it feels like the worst thing in the world. you hate yourself, just a little bit, for not wanting it. the hunger coils in your stomach.
you leave for a while (because of the severance). you don't want to talk about it. the far shore has waves that beat endlessly against the sand, and you fell apart and shivered back together- and you don't want to talk about it.
you tell him to take you somewhere. anywhere. somewhere nice.
(a nice place to die, you think. you're too much of a coward, too much of a monster, to say it.)
it's beautiful, and he's smiling, and there's a gaping emptiness in your gut. you feel yourself shaking apart, skin to bones.
you tell him you are hungry, the words ripped from your throat like the awful truth they are. and he just looks at you, the way he always does.
and then he kills for you. not human, not yet (you wonder if he would), but it still screams as it dies.
he holds the heart in his hands. you are hungry. from here, it just looks like meat. it drips, plip-plop-plip, black blood splatting on tile. you are hungry. he offers it to you.
(despite everything, you sort of want to be human. despite everything, you sort of want to be dead.)
you close your teeth around his fingers instead. like a feral dog. like somebody who is not (has never been) human. his blood is red, and you are terribly, painfully hungry.
you tell him you are a lost cause, a monster with a pretty face and nothing behind it. that he should give up, should leave you alone, should let you die (should kill you himself, really).
he cries, salty and miserable, shoulders shaking. he cries. for you. because of you. all you can do is stare.
the heart drips on the floor between you. you are hungry.
(he does not look like an angel, or an icarus, or a savior. he looks like a fourteen year old boy in love with a monster.)
you have always been selfish.
you have always been hungry.
#mitsukou#jshk#tbhk#doing a reread and i forgot how mentally ill they are abt each other#i get it though#if i was fourteen and madly in love with my (dead) boy best friend#and he told me he was gonna die (again) if he didn't eat somebody#i'd let him cannibalize#luckily i'm aroace so we don't have to worry about that#uhhh tws#tw gore#i suppose?#tw cannibalism#(implied)#this probably isn't 100 percent accurate#i haven't even gotten to the picture perfect arc in my reread so i'm basing this off of memory#sorry to my followers my for my sudden jshk obsession#but actually not sorry whatsoever
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And no one else was in the room where it happened....
#I think going forward Felix's main fear around Aurele is that he was bribed by Gabriel to be a spy for him#Felix does not trust the idea that Aurele actually stole the miracle box from Monarch (he did).#the chat blanc moon behind aurele has no significance whatsoever.#trust me.#UGH THE BOTTOM ONE LOOKS SO MUCH SHITTIER IM SORRY#adrien agreste#mlb adrien#miraculous fanart#miraculous adrien#miraculous fanfic#mlb art#gabriel agreste#mlb gabriel#ml gabriel agreste#felix graham de vanily#felix fathom#ml felix#mlb felix#miraculous gabriel#miraculous felix#miraculous lb#miraculous ladybug#miraculous fandom#pulcinelle#chat blanc#the room where it happened#hamilton musical
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“i guess so” was so insane of buck to say. what do you mean you guess so. there was no reason to respond like that. why not just say yeah. YEAH. YOUR ATTENTION. what was the point of i guess so. he looks soooo relieved to have an answer for his feelings but he’s saying i guess so. girl what. what! you’re guessing? you still don’t know for sure? he’s standing in front of you and you still can’t conjure up an emphatic yes? you’re acting in ways so strange your sister is baffled? you don’t even know why your father figure would approve of your relationship? you don’t know what you’re ready for? you don’t know why you lied to your best friend or why you hurt him? you’re just not certain of anything? “i guess so” WHAT DO YOU ACTUALLY KNOW!!!
#feel like we get lost in the sauce on here im sorry. like i need to not even be entertaining the insane interpretations from people w PDDS#(post destiel derangement syndrome) who are just happy to have a canon ship to be into. like theyre soooo right the show is not subtle.#buck guesses that he wanted his attention all along and he’s freaking out over lying to eddie and maddie is baffled by him and tommy didnt#dress up when buck overcompensated again and made a grand gesture and hes nice enough to show up to the wedding and kiss him but buck#doesnt even talk about him and we dont need to see buck talking about him and he’s just kind of weird and snarky and they’re not having#actual conversations about anything important whatsoever and hes not even there for important moments#and hen and karen werent impressed by his answer to them. cool! i see it……#*#911 txt
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Anyways XO Kitty love interests summarized
Dae
Min Ho
Yuri
#I finished it guys I have thoughts#pleasantly…. surprised I actually enjoyed it a lot?#like don’t get me wrong it was very cringe fail at times but in like an affectionate way in like an aw high school affectionate#bet y’all can’t tell by this post which my favorite LI was I bet y’all can’t guess take a guess#ranking wise Yuri>Min Ho>Dae#I am so sorry Dae is so aksjskw boringgg and like not even because he is a nice guy I love nice guys#he just didn’t have any personality whatsoever apart from chasing Kitty around and saying I can explain#they could have swelled more into him being a family guy but they just kinda didn’t and it was very meh overall#like min ho was an ass but kinda funny at times and had a whole character arc#yuri had a whole development too going full circle and growing as she faced different situations in the series#dae I feel like he started the same way he finished and I guess that makes sense for the plot showing Kitty needs something else but defo#makes him the weakest li. no criticism taken btw#SHUT ME UP ITS 4 AM AND I AM PSYCHOANALYSING A KIDS SHOW AKSJWKKW therapeutic#xo kitty#I hope this doesn’t offend anyone lol all /lh#dae#min ho#yuri
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idk guys I think it’s kinda weird that bad said a week ago that if he tells whether the October 1st stream was a hallucination or not it’d be a spoiler, then cucurucho moves into his house for a few days afterwards, then today when bad has “cucurucho lives in my house” as his stream title cucurucho’s bedroom suddenly disappears like it was never there except for the welcome bb mat, q!bad wonders if he’s hallucinating and has an emotional crying breakdown over cucurucho leaving him
i’m suspicious tbh cant help but feel like something more is going on here
#qsmp#qsmp badboyhalo#qsmp cucurucho#is cucu messing with him#gauging his reactions#bc I certainly Did Not expect this to reduce qbad to a blubbering crying mess he is more attached than I realized#or has this always been his hallucination#sorry but I don’t trust badboyhalo with bits or lore whatsoever#HOW many times has it happened where a silly bit is actually some wacky thing#I have so many questions#surveyduo
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again i don't know where people are getting the idea that Swansea would've jumped to Anya's defense if told before beyond general fandom character rot because like do you remember the game? one of the first things the game lets you see Swansea say is
in response to talking about opening the cargo after living for Two months in a wrecked ship knowing damn well no one is going to come save them. they had no reason to assume they're transporting exclusively mouthwash so that doesn't apply here, theoretically it Could have been something useful. he's exactly the guy to sweep shit under the rug and look the other way as to not get punished by the corporation he works for. he's not going to risk his own skin like that
it's locked for a reason, he says
(side note he was really mean about Anya in this scene for NO REASON? interrupting her at the table? "Even SHE can't make this situation worse with her presence" "that woman" WHAT IS UOUR PROBLEM...)
it's notable that he only tries to kill Jimmy once he has absolutely nothing left to lose. he's still not going to rock the boat until he feels like it's over anyway
(beyond that, it's implied he already knows, and chose to do nothing.)
#dib noise#mouthwashing#my general distaste for people's need for someone to save anya aside i already wrote a post about that#literally everyone on that ship failed her#well i don't know about daisuke. i'll get there#he does end up killing himself trying to help her but it's still too late... much to think about#sorry for posting about this again *bites my own arms off#this is not a hate post! these characters are more interesting if you consider them for who they actually are and not fandomized mush#it's not like he liked jimmy whatsoever. but hating someone isn't enough
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some idiot said sonic being trans was ooc yesterday so i made this lol stay mad
#sonic the hedgehog#sth#rawky art#trans rights#his top surgery scars glow ive decided#and im going to use this all the time#just to spite that fucker cause oh my god#listen#tw transphobia#this is the one time a transphobic comment has actually made me laugh hysterically#they said something like#being trans was a complete disregard for his character or something? and then said he wouldnt elaborate followed by a fire emoji#i was HYSTERICAL#AND I NEEDED THAT AFTER THIS WEEK BECAUSE THE REST IF THE TRANSPHOBIC SHIT IVE SEEN HAS NOT MADE ME LAUGH WHATSOEVER#BUT IT ACTUALLY LEFT ME FEELING GOOD TO DUNK ON HIM I DONT NORMALLY DO THAT#LIKE EVER#anyways sorry for tag spam enjoy the png explosion
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why do twitter and tiktok users feel so entitled to peoples ocs and to their own twisted sense of how the world should work. you people should all just die.
#.wakas#saw the yaelokre situation.. like yeah actually its normal to not want ppl to fetishize their children ocs.#like are u dumb? did u get lobotomized?#the argument of 'dont publicize your work if you dont want people to be weird about it' is so fucking stupid#like firstly its just weird and WRONG to do that with kid characters in general#but also its not even something thats like.. largely trademarked. its someones personal ocs#like.. 'oh u posted ur characters online that have fun lore and people got into it#now u have to deal with the consequences of people being perverted. ur fault tho for showing the public them!' like girl? i dont think so..#sorry.. rambling here..#these people just dont have any brains or social awareness whatsoever!
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*takes a deep breath and leans in so close that my lips touch the microphone*
the tragedy of dick and jason’s relationship as brothers is not that they hated each other and then jason died, or that they were super close and then jason died. the tragedy is that dick did not know enough about jason to know how to mourn him. were they brothers? were they rivals? dick sure doesn’t know, and jason doesn’t either! but it’s fine bc they have plenty of time to figure that shit out, they don’t need to know each other right now bc there will be time to know each other later.
except.
#sorry saw a long post about this and had Thoughts#dick doesn’t know jason!!! he doesn’t really try to know jason!#and jason doesn’t so much give a fuck about knowing dick!#but then jason is *gone* and they will never get the chance to be brothers/rivals/friends#and the only way dick has left to know him is to mourn him#but bruce guards that like he guards nothing else in his entire guarded life#dick can see the memorial and dick can know bruce failed#but dick does not get to mourn jason bc only *bruce* has that burden/comfort/responsibility#and so dick has nothing. no happy memories to comfort himself w no bad memories to make it easier that jay is gone#and *that’s* the fucking tragedy. dick does not get to keep any part of jason whatsoever#and so he makes sure to bond w tim and w damian#bc he knows not to count on a future that may never happen#he knows that the potential of a relationship is not worth a fraction of an actual one (good or bad)#jason doesn’t care enough about dick to include him in his plans for revenge#it’s not hatred or love or jealousy or even *friendship*#the tragedy of dick and jason’s relationship is that they never really have one#and no matter if jason comes back from the dead if dick makes up for it w tim and dami#they’re never going to get that time back
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i am an athena cykes defender forever and ever until the day i die but god. somewhere out there there is a universe where apollo justice got actual follow through and it kills me that i am not living in it
#sorry. i am replaying apollo justice. and it has SO MUCH POTENTIAL.#kills me that we never get any real answers about kristoph obv but its not even just that#klavier as a rival was so interesting. because hes basically already at the state that you're trying to get all the other prosecutors in th#series to in terms of winning vs truth. hes really well rounded as a prosecutor in a way that you as the player arent used to#and that was an interesting departure from the formula for aa in general but then they slapped him with a whole DIFFERENT problem#with kristoph and phoenix. and then they just. do not resolve it whatsoever.#even though apollo is literally right there as a perfect little avenue for resolution. and i KNOW that they WOULD HAVE resolved it#if only they would have MADE THE SECOND GODDAMN GAME#PLUS the secondary conflict of systemic injustice within the system and phoenix's role in that. TRUCY.#god fuck ace attorney why are you so good and so bad at the same time#what we really should have gotten is an apollo justice duology and THEN an athena cykes solo game#where apollo shows up exclusively as a background character and athena actually gets to be the playable attorney in more than 2 cases.#ugh. whatever#personal
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Down bad
Alt ver:
#art tag#this is assuming he even manage to get past 50 layers of denial#sorry for disappearing it will happen again#i know valentines was a month ago but eh#soukoku#skk#bsd#bungou stray dogs#fanart#bsd fanart#bungo stray dogs#why is there two different spellings#er what else#bsd dazai#bsd chuuya#dachuu#i actually hate this ship name for no reason whatsoever#chuuzai#this one too#ollie draws#can you tell i have a style change
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my sense of urgency for this election was all used up watching a genocide play out live on instagram while my mom continued to talk about which politician might make the housing market better and i tried not to genuinely lose my mind over the dissonance. in all honesty short of bombs dropping on americans' houses my adrenal glands are beyond checked out. i'll show up to the polls and do my part and try to plug into the bare bones direct action i can find in the middle of nowhere deep red county state but god. there are so many posts circulating trying to fear monger me into voting for one genocidal president of this genocidal nation over another and i may as well live on a different planet. i can fathom the urgency but i could not make myself feel it short of being held at gunpoint. which may even be on the ballot but that's how americans have been voting for decades now and each of them regardless of party has worried about the idea of being held at gunpoint while a right of theirs is taken away while there are people who are already being held at gunpoint and their rights have already been taken away by the very people being beamed into my eyeballs as the escape from this hypothetical violence that's already non-hypothetically happened to millions who aren't US liberals because of the america they're trying to save from trump the same america regardless of democrats or republicans or whigs or federalists and does anyone else feel like they're going crazy
#j.txt#2024 elections#cannot imagine how american palestinians are feeling#it's genuinely... like i felt honest to god insane watching the boots on the ground journalists over there every day for like 4 months#and then going to work 5 days a week like any of this fucking matters#like nothing about this election can compare in my psyche to that like i'm not even trying to compare them but my brain like#changed shapes this year. and its shape now does not include a sense of urgency about fucking dollhouse barbie american politics after#experiencing all that. last year early this year#i still think about gaza every day but i'm privileged enough to have burned out obsessively getting updated every day#the ocean we swim in said this is normal now. israel committing genocide w our dollars is normal now#it's the same shit with the pandemic and i don't buy into it but the dissonance of the entire world around me spinning on that axis#while mine spins on a completely different one where thousands of people we could have saved are dead now#like sorry that is genuinely insane. i feel like my mind will actually break if i think about it for too long#it's a worldwide gaslight and it's Unfathomable that these political issues in my world#where thousands are dead. is not on my mom's political radar whatsoever like she's thinking about jesus and the housing market#like those thousands upon thousands of lives were never even REAL#i feel like i'm going crazy man it's so fucking ridiculous how am i supposed to take politics seriously with that split#like i know how and i still do but. can anyone here me it's just#it's genuinely a gaslight to think about it too long like i will feel like my reality is splintering
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are you implying that if you ended up in Gotham you would go chase down Jason Todd with a a crowbar or something
I’m implying that my self preservation skills are worse than those of a wet paper towel and I’m not even kidding.
And excuse you I would NEVER. Now, Joker on the other hand….
#I told you my self preservation instincts have left the chat#and Jason well#I wouldn’t hunt him down with a crowbar but I probably would try to ask him for a selfie#and then get shot because he’s currently fighting criminals probably#or y’know I could run into Ivy and ask her why all my houseplants always die#which is probably a sure fire way to get eaten by a plant#ghost talks#no survival skills whatsoever sorry#actually I’d probably just cry and hide behind a dumpster lol
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(more veilguard negativity sorryyyyyy)
literally cannot stop thinking about the skill up review veilguard clips i am haunted. like. how in the world did they write rook talking to the companions like they are toddlers when they’re having a problem. if you haven’t seen it and think i’m exaggerating i can assure you it’s worse than you think. worse than your usual therapy-speak, genuinely just how you would talk to a toddler. it’s insane. why. HOW. ???????????
#one of those things that shocked me in the moment and just keeps getting worse the more i think about it#just absolutely baffling and ridiculous#this in a party of companions that talks like hr is in the room with seemingly multiple scenes of them all#sitting around a giant table and just going ‘i have character trait x!’ one after the other#and just no actual opinions and conflicts going on whatsoever i’m just like.#idk man. i’m this 😟#romeo’s wretched rambles#meanest thing i’m going to say. no wonder they didn’t feel the need to make you be able to roleplay an actual character as rook if the#characters are like this. kills any urge to roleplay lmao#at least for me that’s the majority of the fun. anyways#sorry for being a hater. i will genuinely stop now
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There’s a special place in hell for people who write about Dick being a survivor-about Catalina, Miriam, and/or Liu and make it about every other bat character then him 😭 who writes about the characters learning about it w/o his consent and that being a good thing, who writes about the women getting brutally murdered (misogyny I’m a survivor but it’s just misogyny here) even though that’s explicitly not what he wants, who uses it to push their hcs about other characters instead of actually prioritizing the actual survivor in the story like. It’s so transparent 😭 y’all defend half these porn r$pe fics by saying you care about survivors and y’all can’t even write about the actual survivors 😭
#Jason stans are the worst about this#also like anyone who brings up Talia like. those situations are not the same one is canon one isn’t!!#but seriously why is every fic in this tag about Jason and his trauma or him being a good brother or him being a victim and not like.#actually about dick whatsoever 😭 like it’s fine to go through his rape in depth but god forbid we cover his feelings#sorry I’m just mad#dick grayson#tw rape#catalina flores#I’m tagging Jason for my own personal sorting purposes#Jason Todd#I need like a fandom tag
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from the stuff i’ve heard marc’s former honda teammates (dani jorge and pol in their media careers but joan also i guess) say about him now that they’re racing is generally quite positive, both on a professional/riding level but also seemingly on a personal level? i’m wondering what you make of that given that, yeah, marc doesn’t seem like a very good teammate (unless you’re alex who i’ve left off this list). like MARC wants to separate on and off track stuff and it seems like all of these guys are willing too at least in retrospect, so he can’t have truly burned bridges with them. do you have any thoughts on that
(x, x) most riders are quite good at not burning bridges with each other! it's not like marc's competitors don't know that this stuff is kinda part of the game. I mean, all of marc's past teammates were also trying to assert themselves within the internal hierarchy... you can say that certain teammates engage in 'worse' behaviour than others, but, like, these people do understand they're supposed to be fighting each other! a baseline degree of nastiness is factored in and will be accepted to a greater or lesser extent by your rivals - especially when it comes to asserting yourself in intra-team power struggles. you might hate the other guy in the moment, but generally speaking once the active part of the rivalry is done with... you will probably get over it. marc's fellow riders are aware of how ultra-competitive marc is - and to a certain point they do respect it, not least because they're aware that this is part of the reason why marc has ended up with all those titles. it's like dani said, right, it's marc's strong suit. and in general, you do have to say that there's relatively few teammate pairings that devolve to the level of toxicity that it completely destroys the interpersonal relationship. you might need some level of preexisting animosity... most of the purely competitive sins can be healed with a little time
on the 'separating on-track and off-track' thing... well. this is kind of a question of how you define these things, you can say that marc generally speaking isn't going to massively hold grudges over isolated on-track incidents or whatever... but he doesn't just leave his fighting to the track, and personally I've also never felt he can entirely separate these things out in his mind. can you really say his professional and private relationships with other riders are completely detached from one another? mostly, he's opted to be pretty disengaged from his fellow riders as a collective, and obviously that's a good way to not take things too personally... it's all part of the game, isn't it? sometimes it's good to go with the straightforward approach: marc tells you he will make your life hell, he does indeed make your life hell, and then you both move on with your lives and can maybe actually have a pretty amiable relationship with him in years to come. he's not really defying your expectations at any point here, is he now? it's still a question for each of them as individuals as to whether they think that kind of behaviour is above board and acceptable or not... but everyone by now knows that marc plays these games, so it's not like they're going in blind
and it's not like other former teammates are constantly badmouthing each other. I mean... look, let's just cut to the chase here and bring in valentino as our reference point (as he is for the sport as a whole, which by the way does also help create a certain baseline of acceptability for marc's antics - maybe goated riders are just supposed to be dicks who knows). vale's premier class teammates were 1) nobody (2000-01), 2) tohru ukawa (2002), 3) nicky hayden (2003; 2011-12), 4) carlos checa (2004), 5) colin edwards (2005-2007), 6) jorge lorenzo (2008-10; 2013-16), 7) maverick vinales (2017-20), 8) franco morbidelli (2021), and 9) andrea dovizioso (2021). of these eight men (let's just exclude 'nobody' for now), do you know how many had serious complaints at any point about valentino as a teammate? that's right, it's one guy. one. some of valentino's other teammates, like hayden, checa and edwards, were even quite actively positive about their whole experience. this is the thing - you do need some specific circumstances for teammate rivalries to escalate from 'being kinda bitchy every other month' to 'actively fantasising about stabbing each other'. not accounting for natural interpersonal animosity, let's list some circumstantial factors that you need to get a bridge-burning-worthy level of feud:
you need a competitive bike. it is possible to beef about development direction when you're in the trenches (cf late 2010's yamaha, 2020's honda)... but generally speaking this is going to be quite low-level petty stuff, not actual war
you also need something that approaches competitiveness between teammates. if one teammate is unquestionably stronger than the other one, then it is very unlikely that you are going to get any open hostilities. the tension comes when the two sides are close enough to each other for the internal hierarchy to actually be a contentious issue (this is also basic self preservation... if you're the far weaker teammate then you do not want to make the situation troublesome, because then you will be the one to be fired)
following on from those first two things... well, it doesn't hurt to have a title fight in the mix. there are also other ways you can generate competitive stakes, like, for instance, if you and your teammate know that one of you will be out of a job soon. basically, it helps to have something to squabble over
it is maybe easy to forget how rare it is this century for teammates to be fighting directly for a title, let alone over the course of multiple seasons. only two 1-2's since the year 2000 and they're both for the factory yamaha's (though 2006, 2011-13 and 2017 did all prominently feature two factory hondas). which means that for valentino, the prerequisites were met just the once in his premier class career... and yes, the results were pretty memorable, but (topic! for! another! post!) it's worth pointing out that even that relationship was pretty much 'fine' whenever there was a sizeable disparity between the two of them performance-wise (2008 and 2013 are the most clear cut examples). I think the way I'd frame it with marc is that he has a bunch of mildly dubious strategies up his sleeve to assert himself within the team, which don't really deviate that far from what you'd expect from a rider of marc's calibre and only need to be escalated under specific circumstances. that doesn't mean he doesn't have the potential to be ruthless, but up until now it's mostly been a fairly 'acceptable' level of ruthlessness on the intra-team level... and not something that is likely to make other riders actually hate him
taking marc's teammates one by one... dani was the closest to meeting the bridge-burning prerequisites, though he was only a title rival in marc's rookie season. and marc did go further with him than he did with anyone else, and dani has made some pointed comments about marc's style as a teammate... but yes, he is fonder of marc these days. partly I'd just emphasise again that this is a fairly natural progression when you've stopped directly competing for long enough, and partly it's also just a question of individual personality - dani's not massively into holding grudges. then there's jorge, who... I mean, they might as well not have been teammates, given that jorge was either too slow or too injured to even be sharing any track space with marc. you have to put that one down primarily to circumstance, seeing as jorge's own track record on the teammate front isn't exactly spotless. marc and jorge beefing in 2019 would have been pretty dumb and also a massive waste of everyone's time in a year in which marc singlehandedly won the team's championship. even those two needed more to get things going
moving on to the dark years, pol and marc had an extremely stop-and-start partnership on a honda that was generally pretty uncompetitive... so the only stuff they could get ever so mildly irritable about were riveting incidents like 'marc saying pol wasn't the biggest championship threat' (neither of them were) or 'pol saying he'd copy marc's set up' (which proved entirely useless). not exactly title decider territory, is it now, and marc very much had pol covered as a challenger throughout their partnership. also, those two do have a longer history! they've known each other since they were kids and hold a pretty significant place in each other's careers. now that pol's more or less retired, it's natural there'll be quite a lot of sentimentality there - which will paper over any small cracks that appeared during those two years. and joan was a one year teammate at a time in which the bike was consistently close to offing them both. they only managed to start a sunday race together as teammates on thirteen occasions. it would take some serious effort to engineer a feud with that little opportunity, and, really, why on earth would you bother. maybe if honda had gone for rinsy rather than joan for the factory seat, it could've been a bit more prickly, but it's unlikely that it would have escalated beyond that
this is the thing, right, the only one of these partnerships that would have been worth burning bridges over was dani, and even there marc pretty much had him handled after the first season. in general, marc has been pretty clear on how he's not interested in making friends with the other side of the garage while the teammate relationship is ongoing... which is fine! there's some prominent-ish teammate pairings that are actually good friends, some teammate pairings where one of them is actively helping out and advising the other one, but some riders prefer to just keep their distance. it would have been a little silly of marc to start a feud with a teammate who is galaxies away from being a competitive threat, let alone a title rival, but generally it is possible to toe the line between 'attempting to suppress your internal rivals enough to stop them from becoming a problem for you' and 'taking radical enough action to make your internal rivals despise you'
especially in the post-dani era, marc never really had any need to push things too far... and, let's face it, how many of your teammate relationships end up with burnt bridges is also quite frankly a question of luck and circumstance. do you want to guess which top rider on paper has the worst track record this century with premier class teammate feuds, in terms of a) how many they've had, and b) how little public reconciliation there has been since the end of the rivalry?
yes, that's right, it's the first name that comes to mind when you're thinking of toxic and conflict-prone riders: andrea dovizioso. that old devil, constantly causing trouble. just couldn't stop undermining his poor, innocent teammates. can somebody please stop this ruthless bully before it's too late
I think you get the point. I would personally suggest that dovi is not in fact the worst teammate it is possible to have in a motogp top team. he just happened to find himself in a situation where he was teammates with two separate guys he did not click with at all, in situations that involved a pairing of riders who were (or had the potential to be) competitive with each other, as well as some proper stakes attached to the rivalry. in general, situational factors are going to determine this stuff more than anything else... and marc more often than not does have a reasonably good feel for picking his battles. he's flirted with the line, but he's mostly avoided crossing it. he hasn't had to
#'joan also i guess' hold on now anon that's his former teammate relationship that's most important to ME i love them...#elephant in the room is 'let's revisit this in 1.5 years time'. ik people will try to make that just about the vr46 factor but *shrug*#i kinda feel like maybe i should have mentioned in the casey/marc post that casey is arguably more of an outlier than marc is#like his alienation with the sport ran deep which is how you get him engaging in melandri slander who was pee one million in 2008#y'know casey/jorge ducati was a real possibility for a hot second and my take on that would ALSO be 'hm yeah maybe not <3'#ESPECIALLY given that it's quite likely the incoming jorge would've been paid way way more than casey was ('09 ducati... let's not even)#AND given how yamaha had repeatedly burnt casey and then handed jorge the seat on a silver platter... like idk man!!#genuinely fascinating '10 counterfactual... i do like casey/marc but i've also game planned casey/vale and casey/jorge i'm a completionist#(either dani or vale would've likely won the title in that timeline. but crucially casey/jorge interpersonally would've been. well)#//#brr brr#alien tag#batsplat responds#morale tag#i need an ask tag so badly but i can't be bothered to back tag... i'll do it at some point#in my notes i did once actually rank the aliens by how much they'd suck as teammates but the order might be a wee bit controversial#i'm sorry to the guy i ranked number one but he did objectively have the worst track record like... it has to be said#i think u have like. different modes right. where how bad u are as a teammate is scaled to how big the threat ur facing is#now EYE actually think marc's not got a particularly *great* neutral mode either but it's not bridge-burning mode#also what even is a burnt bridge... i mean god knows even valentino and jorge are taking photos together these days...#jorge's still conducting autopsies of old beef every fortnight but otoh he's joking about motegi on instagram which is crazyyyyyy#you genuinely cannot. CANNOT convince me that if marc/jorge had had a title fight as teammates it wouldn't have been a MESS#there is literally no way. none whatsoever#and if i said dani had a higher number of strained premier class teammate relationships than valentino did... what then...
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