#both about jason and about his death. that his death didn't matter? that he's... replaceable? (*JAYTIM TROPE AIRHORNS*)

[ragnarokhound]

re: your tags on the jason’s anger post~

hard agree!! i will read reconciliation fics bc like… i do enjoy them getting to be a happy family/group but ultimately, i am firmly in the Jason Todd Was Right camp, &. serious work would need to be done for him to ever actually be part of the family again, bc the actual roots of his issues run DEEP. (and again! he has points!!)

and also same again on like… if i mention the batfamily dynamics in my fics, with the exception of au’s, jason’s relationship with bruce especially is still at least a little strained. he’s a member but also kind of an outsider and maybe he has complicated feelings on that sometimes but ultimately it’s bc his convictions / beliefs run deeper than his need /want of acceptance / belonging.

anyway sorry to dump a rant in your inbox but, i loved your tags & wanted to reply 💞

OUUGHH YES THO!! THANK YOU FOR RANTING, ALWAYS RANT IN MY INBOX STAY IN THIS SPACE WITH ME <333

(I'm about to have a mini-rant of my own, and disclaimer, it's largely informed by my terrible foundation of the UTRH movie + fandom osmosis + the occasional page/panel drop/arguments from other fans skdndndj sO GRAIN OF SALT THE SIZE OF RHODE ISLAND: )

Because yes yes absolutely! It would take serious work on Both sides for Jason to be brought back into the fold. They would both need to want it, and someone would have to be willing to bend on what they are ok with letting slide. Bruce would have to allow Jason his independence and divergence in philosophy; Jason would have to make concessions to Bruce's hard anti-murder stance.

There would have to be compromise, and reparations of some kind. They would have to actually talk and be able to listen. Apologies exchanged (mostly from Bruce because lmao) and a bunch of stuff people with the whole picture could probably tell me better lmao. ALL HARD ASKS

Because yes yes yes!! Jason's convictions and his beliefs ABSOLUTELY run deeper than his desire for acceptance. That's not-so-low-key the biggest obstacle for both him and Bruce in their ever reconciling. It's why Talia was able to manipulate him at all (idk the specifics of that, but details), it's why he hatched a deeply convoluted plan to get back at Bruce and the Joker and fuck over Black Mask in one fell swoop.

He wanted to confront Bruce with the consequences of letting Joker run around even after committing a deeply heinous and personal crime. Show him that taking a more intense and hands on approach and cracking down HARD on the crime families in Gotham would have more immediate results than what Bruce did. And that's not even getting into the Robin stuff yet lol

I don't personally agree per se with Jason's stance on murder and crime fighting lmao - but I also think he has a goddamn point, especially in this universe. In the world of batman, where death can be impermanent and supervillains pull all kinds of heinous, torturous bullshit, Jason has a lot of righteous and justified anger about how Bruce does things, on top of his hurt and betrayal over how both he and his death were treated.

Bruce's stance makes sense to me too, in a 'everyone deserves a second chance' and 'no one is beyond redemption' and 'its a slippery slope' perspective. But at some point you have to wonder about accountability. About what's acceptable. When the Joker is an unrepentant, murderous, sadistic criminal who has demonstrated that he cannot be adequately jailed or rehabilitated, what do you do? Do you ever give up on him? When is enough enough? Is the death penalty ever justifiable?

It's what makes Jason vs Bruce's arguments interesting and tragic to me, because from Jason's perspective, he is seeking retribution for himself as a victim. He is an avenger for victims failed by the system as it stands. And the system fails a lot of people. It needs to change. (And it's something being felt very strongly by a lot of people rn IRL which makes Jason's ideals v sympathetic.)

But from Bruce's perspective, Jason has given up. He has lost hope in the inherent goodness of people. He no longer seeks to find the good in people; he has decided that there exists instead a sharp dichotomy, that there is such thing as a bad person who deserves to die for what they've done, and for being bad. As opposed to seeing deeply injured people who need help, even when you find them repulsive. Rotten work, that.

Bruce sees the end of the path that Jason is on, and it's a bullet that Jason puts in his own brain - because if there are good people and bad people, and bad people deserve to die... won't Jason lump himself in with the bad people eventually? (I am once again standing on my 'Jason Todd wants to die on some level' soapbox)

Anyway, all this to say - there is a sharp divide in Bruce and Jason's methods/beliefs that makes their reconciliation impossible if neither of them is willing to budge. And when they both see budging as a terrible thing to do, a failure to the very people they are dedicating their lives to protecting...well.

It's gonna take a lot of angst and a lot of work.

[lillybearrie]

Jason is tragic not because he died, because let's be honest every character dies at least once it's practically a right of passage. No it's not that he died or even that after coming back he felt that his life had no impact it ment nothing, no it's the fact that this child who spent his whole life taking care of and managing the emotions of the adults in his life, who always tried to keep a smile on his face for his parents sake who let the adults in his life project what they wanted to on to him Who spent so long being the good kid the happy robin still felt that it didn't matter the he hadn't mattered.

Jason was good when his mother invited men over and sent him on errands to keep him out of the house, jason was good when he became the sole provider for both his mother and him, jason was good when he watched his mother died, jason was good when Bruce adopted him as a substitute for the son who left, jason was good when he heard Bruce and Dick fighting down the hall and pretended he didn't, jason was good when he learned to be robin,jason was good when he prioritized school over the mission, jason was good when he smiled and hugged batman, jason was good when he made the batman smirk, jason was good when he defended the citizens of gotham, jason was good for so long. For so long he was told to chose the high road and he did (with some notable exceptions-) for other people.

And then he wasn't good he got himself benched, and he wandered back to the narrows, he found out the woman who raised him was not the one who have birth to him and in the interest of learing more about himself he used those detective skills he learned as Robin to find his bio mom, he tried to protect her from the Joker and in return she sold him out and took a smoke break while listening to the sounds of laughter and a crowbar sattering bone, and still after that he tried to be good he tried to still save her, ignoring his own pain he dragged his broken and battered body over to untie her and he helped her to the door as he himself struggled to stay upright and then... it was locked. He failed to protect her and now he was gonna die. The building collapsed around him and he could hear Batman calling out but he couldn't respond and he died.

Then he wakes up 6 feet under and has to claw his way back to the surface, and upon eventually regaining most of himself he returns to gotham to find it unchanged. He spent his whole life being good for the sake and for the benefit of the adults in his life and even then despite everything even in his death they didn't change nothing changed Joker is still breaking out of Arkham on a bi-weekly basis, Batman is still doing the same things, and Bruce put a new kid in the robin suit and no doubt started pushing his issues on the kid like he did with both jason and dick. Jason was replaced both as Robin and in the Wayne family and everyone moved on like he was never there to begin with his life had so little impact ment so little to the people who were his whole world that the moment he was no longer right up in their faces the forgot about him.

And after being so good for so long he finally said fuck it. He said fine I'll do it myself and started cleaning up the streets his way without batman's rules and you know what? It was working. And that just reiterated in his mind that Bruce could have avenged him if he really wanted to but he didn't.

Do do you guys understand why this little shit consumes my brain yet?? Arararara

Also large parts of this are headcannon because depending on what comics you read the are several different interpretations of Jason as Robin (as well and the other characters) but this is how I like to read him because frankly it doesn't really matter if he was the happy robin or the aggressive robin because either way he died came back and is now the red hood but I personally find this read far more interesting than "he was volatile before and the only thing that stopped him from killing was batman and now that he doesn't have someone telling him not to he became the red hood because that who he always was deep down" but that's just me if you like that interpretation as it's a fairly common take in comics post-under the red hood but it's just not for me. Now do I have thoughts on his repressed rage issues and how they are not longer uh- yk repressed rage issues and how it parallels Dick (because boy howdy do i have thoughts on Richard Grayson-) absolutely i do but this post is already way to long so we aren't gonna get into that anyway like I said this is just how I chose to read Jason because I personally find it a more compelling story.

[redhoodinternaldialectical]

Having spent the last few weeks un-fridging Catherine Todd, let me tell you, I NEVER want to see another motherfucker complaining about how Jason was """fridged"""

Like, sorry folks but he just fucking wasn't!!! Even if he had been a female character, that would not have been a fridging. The narrative at all times was deeply concerned with his internal experience of the world, his motives and emotions, and always considered him a human being whose agency and autonomy needed to be considered and highlighted. At least half of Death in the Family is about Jason's wants and needs and his attempts to fulfill them. Jason constantly makes decisions that alter the course of the story.

"Oh but his death was used for the development of the other character and the tone of the narrative as a whole" yeah, no fucking shit, of course it was, that is the entire fucking point of killing a character off! When a character dies, they stop developing through their own story arc, so they can only effect the arcs of other characters. The fact that this is done disproportionately to women is only one part of what the concept of fridging is about and reducing it down to only that ignores the real meat of why fridging matters.

Fridging is about the way that female characters are killed off in ways that disregard their agency, write off any choices, emotions, or motivations they might have had as not worth examining, and pointing out that the reason female characters are so often killed this way is because women are thought of as being less capable of agency and less fully people than men.

A good way to tell if a character has been fridged is to ask yourself "Hmm, if this woman was replaced with a literal bitch, an actual four legged puppy dog, would the narrative meaningfully change?"

Catherine Todd was fridged for Jason. She has no opinions, no meaningful personality traits, no agency in her own story or basically anyone else's for that matter. She is sad. She is addicted. She is dead. That is the whole of her character. Her entire purpose is to be a bullet point of angst in Jason's backstory. If you replaced her with a dead dog, none of Jason's story would be meaningfully changed.

"Oh but she was a parent, all the Robins have dead par-" They why was it Willis Todd that got resurrected in order to turn Jason into the 'Damned Prince of Gotham' and not her? It's because misogyny. If you come to any other conclusion why Scott "Known to Write Misogynistically" Lobdell didn't make Catherine Todd the one to come back, you are fucking kidding yourself. She is a female character and was therefore not given the same consideration as the male characters, it is as simple as that.

We all have every right to rail against the way Jason was killed off, the way the narrative blames him for his own death, the ways that he has been badly mishandled. He's even a character that's suffered due to prejudice! The classism in the way he's handled is really strong! I also think there's a ton of value in an analytical comparison between the ways that Jason's mental health is treated and the origins of mental health stigma that are rooted in misogyny. The Jason Todd Hysteria Essay is a frequent reread for me.

However.

None of this makes him "female coded" and any serious comparison of how female characters are treated and how he is treated must inevitably run into the truth that he does benefit from all the privileges that a male character gets for being male. He is treated in classist and ableist ways, and both classism and ableism intersect with misogyny, but the fact of the matter is that he does not have direct misogyny wielded against him and the female characters around him suffer from misogyny to his benefit.

You can call his death obnoxious, a callow cash grab, poorly thought out, bad for his character, of overall detriment to society, et.c. and be perfectly justified in doing so

But if you claim that he was fridged you are factually incorrect and for the crime of ripping the label off of a feminist theory (and failing to learn what it means beyond the most reductive single sentence 'definition' possible) for the benefit of a male character I sentence you to having all of your socks dipped in musty ass bog water.

[justaboymadeofhoneyandglass]

Part 2!

On to Jason Todd, the second Robin. After Dick left, Batman caught a street kid stealing tyres off the batmobile and pretty much picks him up like a raccon and goes "you're coming home with me" thus he gains Jason as a son. Jason becomes Robin at age 11 and is desperate to live up to the expectations Dick set before him. When Bruce and Dick make up, Jason and Dick become close as brothers

Jason is murdered by the Joker at age 16 and we will come back to him in just a second

But first I need to bring up Tim Drake. Tim is a child genius who figures out Batman and both Robin's identities at a young age. When Jason died, Batman spiralled into a pretty bad place, becoming violent and despondent and Tim decided to stalk him about it

Tim stalks Bruce for a while and then demands he be allowed to be the third Robin. Batman is very against this, his son just died because he failed to protect him as Robin. But Tim does what he wants and pretty much bullies Batman into letting him be Robin at age 13. Most of Tim's job as Robin is to keep Batman in check while he's grieving and make sure he doesn't go off the deep end

Remember Jason? Surprise! He's alive again! A year later, Jason is revived by Ra's al Ghul (remember him for later), the head of the League of Assassins that first trained Bruce. Ra's has access to the Lazarus Pit which keeps him immortal and can revive the dead

But Jason comes back angry. Not only because the Lazarus Pit does that to you, but also for two personal reasons: 1. Batman did nothing to avenge his death. Joker is still alive because of his "no killing" rule. 2. He was replaced as Robin, as a son, as if he didn't matter

So Jason takes on the persona of Red Hood (an old alias of Joker's) and becomes a crime lord in Gotham to get Batman's attention. He also starts killing the villains that Batman refused to. He gets in many fights with Batman and tries to murder Robin a few times. It takes a good while before they actually talk and get anywhere, Bruce apologising and Jason realising how much influence the Lazarus anger is having over him

Very very very slowly they start to repair their relationship a little. Jason is still pissed, Bruce is still guilty, but over 4 years they are starting to be family again. Jason calls Tim "Replacement" as a nickname but they have more of a tense sibling relationship now. Red Hood considers himself an anti-hero but still presents himself as a crime lord to the rest of the world as a cover. Jason Todd is still legally dead but it's an open secret that he's alive bc he's just walking around Gotham the past 4 years

Jason takes every chance to guilt trip Bruce about his death to get his way and any time someone mentions death he's obligated to chime in "I died once"

He hardly hangs around Wayne Manor, and is not over for dinner as often as Dick, but will make appearances for the sake of Alfred's cooking and the kids sometimes

Once again back to Tim, at 15 his (neglectful, rich) parents found out about him being Robin and made him stop. They died 9 months later and he once again becomes a vigilante, now Red Robin because Robin has just been passed to someone else

Tim still lives at Wayne Manor and runs most of the tech and security systems in the Batcave and the Justice League watchtower (the Justice League think this is Batman running it alone. They are wrong). As a day job he is co-CEO of Wayne Enterprises despite having never completed high school

Ohhh thats cool!

Jason is honestly such an icon for that lmao

Keep em coming!

[oflowtides]

⸻  DOVE CAMERON. SHE/HER / have you ever heard of I SO HATE CONSEQUENCES by relient k?  it describes BARBARA ‘BABS’ ALLERDYCE to a tee! the twenty seven year old CASHIER AT UTTERLY SWEET was spotted walking down the beach - do you know them? would you say SHE is more awkward or more HEARTFELT instead? anyway, they remind me of almost always running late, the guilty pleasure of watching reality tv all day, the vague realization that something is burning in the other room, and eating ice cream directly from the container with smudged makeup because you tried your best but it wasn’t good enough, maybe you’ll bump into them soon!

death tw

Babs started life being dealt the wrong hand; the second child, it's not that Babs wasn't loved - because she was, very much. She was just an extremely unlucky child; she was often sick, and somehow Murphy's Law seemed to follow her around. Things were constantly going wrong in her life, be it a fight between friends, flunking assignments, or just her constantly getting sick and her parents trying to figure out what they could do.

She was undoubtedly a daddy's girl, and she adored Viktor with her whole heart. She liked when he'd take time off to stay home with her, and even when small stress fractures began developing between him and her mom, she often ran to his defense. It wasn't that she didn't love her mother - because she did. But as a child, she didn't understand the complexities of adult relationships and how Viktor taking time off work was an issue.

While things were rocky, they were stable - until Babs' older brother, Jason, got into an accident. He had been dropping off a friend and someone had driven by, mistaking him for someone else and shot him before screeching off. The entire Allerdyce family was rocked from that moment on. Soon the foundation of the marriage came tumbling down, and Babs found herself a child of divorce with a father who was both trying to be there for her as much as he could but someone who was also drowning himself in work.

Babs felt lost; she lost motivation in most things and only finished high school because she had to. It was around this time that she met Hero Dixon, and their on again/off again relationship started. With his inability to commit, and her insistence that she was a magnet for bad things happening, it felt like a cursed pairing from the start - no matter how deeply the pair loved or cared about each other, there simply wasn't a world where it could work long term.

Babs flit from job to job every six months; her bad luck continuing to follow her and often get her fired from jobs or needing to leave because she'd gotten sick (she just had a weaker immune system than most, but occasionally it caused her to wind up in the hospital from dehydration) and couldn't work.

When Viktor brought Vivienne into Bab's life, she was nervous, but also excited. She had mended her relationship with her mother, but Vivienne didn't seem to want to replace that role in Babs' life - she just wanted to be another form of support for her, which Babs welcomed with open arms. Her life constantly seemed to be spiraling out of control, and even just one more extra pillar sounded like it would make all the difference.

Despite her constant misfortunes, Babs is extremely social, managing to make friends every time she goes out and even finds herself falling in and out of different romances (some better than others). While she does view herself as cursed and a hashtag girlfail, she tries to take it in stride most days, cracking jokes with friends and rolling her eyes to keep things light. If it wasn't for Auggie by now she'd have gone completely inside, but girls that fail together gotta stick together, and as long as she has her family on her side, Babs feels like she'll be able to get through whatever life throws at her.

[webshood]

didn't feel like I would've needed to do this, but y'all started pissing me off in the reblogs.

trigger warning ⚠️

Discussions of child sexual assault , canon violence

Jason had it really BAD

Even when Catherine was still alive he's had to fend for both of them, no matter how independent he shows himself as, he was still a kid during this time.

on these two panels it's clearly stated that he looks after Catherine, he even confesses to her about beating somebody up for food

This is from BfTC, it's not clearly stated but Bruce's speech bubble : "What happened to you as a child...."

It's not there just for show, a secret so bad, that Batman himself implies that Jason needed repair, that he needed help to deal with it.

Jason himself telling Mia that he was "born on the streets, that he'd seen things, that he'd done things."

His time on the streets was not the best, he was a child fending for himself and a implied victim of CSA (kids can't consent to sex work, they're kids.), his childhood as of current canon was not at all flowers, he's a child who grew up with an abusive goon father, a druggie step-mom (I KNOW SHE WAS SICK and nobody chooses to become an addict but fuck her nonetheless), spent a lot of time being the parent to said stepmom before she had a overdose and he was left all alone.

Good lord, Bruce literally took him without knowing to a criminal organization, fresh out of the streets, Jason himself had to help Batman take it down. Then he was adopted, and he only got to enjoy a little bit of it, because he was adopted at 12-13 and got to experience a bit of a softer life with a dad and a grandfather, before being betrayed by his biological mom, beaten black and purple half to death and literally blowing up.

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But no, on the eyes of the fanon warriors. Lil Timmy needs to tell the big bad Red Hood that he's not the only one who's suffered in life, he was actually left alone at home since he was a four (his parents were present on his life until he was like eight), he has nobody to take care of him (he's in a fancy boarding school) just Mrs Mac (she's only there after Jack's coma), if he gets sick following Batman and Robin on the rooftops (he collected newspaper clippings, found their identities by TV and is only shown taking photos of Bruce when he's getting off the batcave/broad daylight) Tim will have to go through his fevers alone at the Drake manor without access to healthcare (💀💀).

Visual representation of lil Timmy to help the reader better understand his struggles:

The big bad Red Hood doesn't know it, but he was actually Lil Timmy's Robin, he considers him a lot (he actually victim blames Jason for dying, a lot). The big bad Red Hood beats Tim up real bad and uses his blood to draw on the wall (Tim is not shown with big cuts and Jay is dramatic enough to bring his own blood), he even slices Lil Timmy's throat ( it was hush, a nip on the throat, they just put some fabric over it and he's fine)

Oh, and don't forget that Janet Drake was actually a asian women, a dragon lady very severe and strict, Lil Timmy had a hard time with her and the big bad Red Hood doesn't recognize his trauma, maybe the big bad Red Hood's with his latino community (and a lot of very bad google translate Spanish) can get to know better the amazing Lil Timmy and see how much he's gone through ¿!

So he finally accepts him as the Robin and stops calling Timmy a pretender (hush was the one using it) and a replacement (fanon, but Timbo, Timmy and timbers are all used by Jason in canon!!). After the big bad Red Hood finally gives up every single moral and belief he's ever has to join the family, Lil Timmy is finally taken under his wings and now they're very happy as a family, the big bad Red Hood may call him pájaro bebé/babybird/Hinadori from time to time, but that is not guaranteed !!

not gonna elaborate it rn, but people diminishing Jason's experience with homelessness, malnourishment, childhood abuse and neglect, because he got adopted by a billionaire while also hcning Tim Drake to be neglected and starved by his wealthy parents is rooted in racism and classicism

[alfredsolos]

I don't like how some writers bash or exaggerate the other batkids' behaviour and personalities in order to whumpify their favorite batfam member.

If Dick Grayson is the main character in the fic, then every other batfam member are suddenly incapable of doing the most simplest tasks and ask Dick to help them. He solves every single problem of his family because he is the 'eldest'. And he always puts a smile on his face and let's them treat him like shit.

Yes, it is true that Dick has more responsibility compared to his siblings. Not because he is the eldest; but because he has to keep an entire city safe all by himself, mentor teen sidekicks, lead the Titans, go on missions with the JL and so on. And he does this not because he has to, but because he wants to.

Also he may be more emotionally open than rest of his siblings, but thats just it. Compared to his siblings. Nightwing says puns and jokes yeah, but he is not at all can be classified as emotionally vulnurable. Dick led and mentored so many teams, and you can't do that while being light hearted and smiley all the time.

Dick is serious and firm when needed to. He doesn't baby any of his siblings (especially Damian), or act like an angel all the time. He has anger management issues and does not take bullshit from anyone. Not even his family.

He lives in Bludhaven to get away from the craziness that is Gotham. He loves his family, but he simply does not have the patience to deal with them all the time.

When the fic is about Jason, most of the plot is about him being dead and how Bruce betrayed him by replacing him. That Dick threw him in Arkham and everyone treats him like a monster.

Well firstly, Jason is not all about his death. He doesn't really bring it up unless he wants to make a point to Bruce.

Jason doesn't hate Tim because he replaced him. Jason hates Bruce, for taking in another Robin when the first one actively get murdered because of it. He beat Tim up to prove to him and Bruce that taking in a child, and making him his partner is seriously wrong. Jason hates the idea of kids becoming soldiers for a war they didn't start.

Another point is that after Jason came back from the dead, he wasn't an anti-hero. He was a full on villain that tried to kill most of the Batfamily. And no I'm not talking about him beating Tim up in the Titans tower (It was to send a message to Bruce) or cutting his throat (which he didn't. It was a small scratch):

I'm talking about Battle for the Cowl, when he beat Tim up badly because he refused to be his Robin. Jason thought Tim was dead at the end of their fight (Tim slowed down his heartbeat). And this is his reaction:

And yet again in Battle for the Cowl, he shot Damian. Which resulted him getting more than 70 stitches:

Also this was his reaction when a nuclear powered supervillain blew up Bludhaven:

He poisoned 82 inmates while 'Dick sent poor Jason into prison :('

Now does this mean Jason is a bad character? Fuck no! Infact he is one of my favorite characters. Jason is such an interesting character and sometimes you can't help but condone his mistakes no matter how bad they are. Even I do this.

So what I mean is that, we should stop babying him and see him as the flawed character he is. Every single character has their own flaws and that's what makes them special.

Jason was a hero, then a villain, then an anti-hero, then again a hero.

Also he doesn't get pit episodes. The only time he got one was right after getting out of the pit. Lazarus pit did not made him violent and it's not the blame for Jason's past actions. Jason was awake and aware of the things he did. And he feels guilty. But he learned to forgive. Both himself and Bruce.

Our next member is Tim Drake. Fanon Tim Drake is a coffee addict, he is thin and small, is quiet and doesn't believe he is apart of the family. Dick stole Robin from him and gave it to 'evil and cruel' Damian who bullies him every time they interact. Jason always calls him replacement and threatens to kill him most of the time. Dick is a monster that tried to lock him up in Arkham.

God I cringed writing this. Anyways firstly Tim is, in fact, not a coffee addict. I'd say he is more of a tea person and only drinks coffee to stay awake.

Tim is not short and all skin and bones. He eats properly and is very muscled. Especially around his back and biceps. He is also not short either.

Tim is quiet, yes. But not in a shy way. He is cold and calculative and sometimes a little apathatic. He isn't scared to do what's necessary and is always ready to sacrifice himself for the sake of the mission. He also definitely sees himself apart of the family.

Another really misunderstood point is that Dick took Robin from him, when it was actually Alfred who gave Damian the Robin suit.

Yes, Damian tried to kill him multiple times and it was very traumatising for Tim. But they do get along most of the time. In fact Tim may be the second closest to Damian among the family. Because no matter what happens he loves his little brother. As it was shown when he hallucinated and hugged Damian after he died.

Jason and him may be at odds from time to time, but Jason gets along with him more than most of his siblings.

And Dick most certainly did not try to put him in Arkham. Bruce was dead and Dick saw Tim. How devastated he was, so he offered him to get therapy. Like a good brother would do.

Last but not least is Damian. I think most of the time Damian centric fics manage to represent him properly. But let's start with the ones that are the most cliche-d and wrongly written.

Damian talks the Queen's British and is spoiled. Dick Grayson is his actual father and Bruce always insults him. He trains all day and goes to patrol at night. He hates his mother, always gets his ass handed to him in a fight. Tim Drake treats him horribly and everyone calls him Demon or Demon Brat. Jason is the best brother in the world and him and Dick always protect him from Bruce's wrath. Alfred annoyes him and Damian doesn't really care about him. All of his personality is summed up with: "Yes, Father."

In actuality, Damian is most of the time sassy or straight up mocking. He uses slangs and isn't scared of disrespecting Ra's or Talia and Bruce (in fact he may be enjoying it a little).

Dick Grayson is in fact not his father figure. That title belongs to Alfred, who was always there whenever he needed him.

Damian plays video games and his favorite one is cheese vikings.

He also loves his mother and forgives her even through all does horrible things she does to him. He is most likely conditioned to feel that way. Because it's not normal to treat someone normally after they murder you. He is also an exceptionally good fighter.

Tim Drake is possibly his second closest sibling. They banter and fight sometimes, yes. But they still very much care for each other. When Tim was thought to be dead, Damian was shown to be holding his bo staff and mourning.

Him and Jason were never close. Jason tried to kill him and so did Damian. They don't know each other well and Damian does not want to; since at the time he was Robin, Jason was a villain that actively tried to hurt him and Dick.

I don't think anyone ever called him a Demon Brat. Or if they did it was probably like one time, since I couldn't find any panels that refer to him that way.

Damian is the most rebellious and hot headed Robin. He doesn't shy from saying what wants or stepping up to Bruce. In fact those two are the ones who fight the most in the family. Even more than Tim and Damian.

And Bruce doesn't always insult or bench him. He just straight up ignores him or his needs and always puts him in second.

There are obviously way more than these, but I'll stop for today. No hate to the creators, this is just my own opinion.

[fantastic-nonsense]

wait so dick said to damian "you were my robin" which is sweet but also dick worked as batman with tim as his robin like, way before that, right? was it just not for very long?

Yeah, it didn't last very long! Prodigal was a limited arc that acted as an epilogue to the epic Knightfall saga, the story where Bane broke Bruce's back. After first enlisting Jean-Paul Valley/Azrael to temporarily become Batman while he recovered (it went badly), Bruce accepts Dick's offer to fill in for him as Batman while he goes on a globetrotting training spree to get back into fighting shape:

"I can't replace you, Bruce...but I'd be lying if I said it's not going to be wild standing in for you." -Batman: Prodigal Part 1

Dick works as Batman with Tim as his Robin during this arc, and it's full of a lot of really fun and wholesome Dick-Tim moments. It's also explicitly temporary, and served mostly as an opportunity to grow Dick and Tim's relationship and as a character exploration for Dick about what it meant for him to take on the cowl. He's coming out of a personal rough patch (his relationship with Kory has fallen apart, the Titans have temporarily disbanded, he wasn't Bruce's first choice to fill in for him as Batman during Knightfall, and he feels like a failure in a lot of ways), and it shows in how he approaches being Batman in this arc. He starts off fairly excited, but by the end he's learning the toll the cowl takes on him:

"Why was it such an effort to don the cape and cowl--to leave the Cave? Why does it feel like it should be finished? Did I put the Bat over my heart just to test myself-to get the memory of Two-Face off my back? No--I did it because Bruce asked me. Because he needed me. I gave my word, and that kind of promise-no matter how long the night-sticks for the duration."

"And now he's Batman, the culmination of a dream he thought he'd always had. But it's been wrong. Like [Jean] Paul, he was just filling in for somebody else--marking time till the boss came home. And when it seemed to be going well-this. Failure."

Dick doesn't really consider himself to be Batman in this arc: despite acting as Batman for around a month or so, he really thinks of himself as "Nightwing, filling in for Batman." It's not until Bruce's death and Battle for the Cowl that he actually "becomes Batman" in the way we think of it. And thus, he doesn't really consider Tim to be "his" Robin.

Sidenote: honestly I really feel like Prodigal (and Resurrection of Ra's al Ghul) should be required reading before anyone touches Tim's Red Robin run and Dick and Damian's Batman & Robin book, because it it provides so much background context, character nuance, and story depth to that entire era and shows how far these characters have come: Dick saying Tim was now his "equal" in RR #1 wasn't a joke. He knew how far Tim had come since Prodigal:

"Now I'm the Batman." "Saddled with the responsibility of your own tagalong Robin--and you're afraid I'll do what you did." "No, Tim...it's not you I'm worried about...not you at all." -Batman: Prodigal (1997) /// "He's my responsibility now. You're not my protege, Tim, you're my equal. My closest ally." -Red Robin #1 (2009)

Anyway, for Dick, Damian is "his Robin," and for Damian, Dick is "his Batman." While Tim worked as Robin alongside Dick as Batman in Prodigal, both of them knew it was temporary. Tim is his brother, but not his Robin; that's Damian. Tim still considered himself to be Bruce's Robin at the end of the day, and Dick only operated as Batman long-term with Damian at his side. It's also true in that scene that Dick was talking more from Damian's perspective than he was from his own:

"Tim, Steph, Jason...we were all Robins to Bruce first...but you were my Robin." -Robin (2021) #5

Damian barely knew Bruce when he died in Final Crisis, and him not knowing anything about his dad was actually an explicit plotpoint that cropped up multiple times during Dick and Damian's time as Batman and Robin. More importantly, Bruce didn't make Damian Robin; Dick did. Damian staying Robin was Dick's choice, not Bruce's, and that makes all the difference in the context of Dick and Damian's conversation. So while Dick and Tim did work together as Batman and Robin, Damian is Dick's Robin at the end of the day.

[superboy-prime]

(Countdown Presents: The Search for Ray Palmer - Gotham by Gaslight)

I have a lot of feelings about Jason in this issue.

Something that I've always considered a major aspect of Jason's character post-resurrection is his profound sense of displacement. He rises from the grave to a world that has moved on without him. Obviously his driving motivation when he first appears as Red Hood is the idea that his death has gone unavenged, and his anger towards Bruce regarding that. But there's also this intense sense of just not belonging in the world anymore. There's a new Robin who has replaced him, his father and his older brother have rejected him (and are, I should note, completely justified in doing so since he's, y'know, been fucking up their lives and slaughtering people en masse, but this isn't about them) and no matter what he does going forward none of his or his family's actions can be undone. There is no going back for him.

Jason in pretty much every appearance during this era - particularly in Under the Hood - is clearly suicidal. He doesn't want to be here. He didn't ask to be brought back to life. Hell, iirc he never even finds out how it happened. And despite his (violent, occasionally stupid) efforts to carve out a place for himself in the world, there just isn't one. He does not belong here anymore.

In Countdown that concept is directly addressed. According to the monitors he's an anomaly, someone who is not supposed to exist. That theme of displacement is brought to the forefront of Jason's character.

During the events of the arc he and the other Challengers spend weeks traversing the multiverse and Jason sees dozens of alternate Gothams, in one of them he even meets a version of Bruce who did avenge his death and who he kinda awkwardly bonds with (though it's clearly painful for both of them and ends pretty tragically.) But it's here on Earth 19, the Gotham by Gaslight universe, that Jason thinks "I could belong here."

And later in the same issue he wonders if he could find a way to come back here again when all of this is over.

I don't have much to say other than that I found his inner monologue here very sad. What is it about this Gotham in particular that tugs at him? Is it the setting? The aesthetic? Is he idealizing the past? Is it the fact that this Gotham never had a Jason Todd in the first place?

It made me imagine a version of events where Jason does return to Earth 19 and assimilates himself into its universe, living in Victorian-inspired Gotham and maybe even being an ally to its Batman. I wonder if he'd be happy there, or if the sense of belonging would pass after a time and he would start to feel that creeping sense of loneliness all over again...

[zeroducks-2]

I believe I already explained this in another reply but my point isn't strictly related to ADITF (I speak more in relation to the events of UTRH), but regardless. Even if Bruce has all the circumstantial reasons which Jim Starling gave him for not going after Joker immediately, it's not like Joker disappears after the events of ADITF - during the years in between Jason's murder and his resurrection, Joker is still very much there while Jason stays very much dead.

(Indeed when Jason comes back he finds tons of articles about Joker killing people and doing his nasty bits as he's always done, and when Jason goes looking for him to enact the whole "you either watch me shoot Joker or you kill me", Joker is chilling at Amusement Mile, unbothered.)

The thing is that what Batman does about Joker doesn't work, it never did. Then a kid who Bruce regarded as a son gets beaten within an inch of his life and blown up, and not even this manages to move him from his (obviously flawed) approach to the "Joker problem". Jason remained unavenged both in the sense that Bruce didn't practically avenge him (neither as Batman nor as Bruce Wayne, who is a billionaire and has all the means necessary to make sure Joker gets sentenced to death in a court of law)*, and in his death was also meaningless since nothing in the dynamic changed: Jason was and still is just another victim listed in Joker's ever growing kill count.

I don't deny that Bruce suffered when Jason died, I acknowledge his grief and how he was spiraling down before Tim showed up and gave him new purpose and hope. But that's another story and it's a story dedicated to Bruce. Bruce's grief makes no difference in the story dedicated to Jason, where a kid wasn't first protected and then avenged by his father figure. And clearly Bruce's grief makes no difference when he cut his boy's neck to save Joker's life.

And that's where the argument of Bruce being Joker's victim loses me. Because that analysis is good and I can stand by it for some of its parts, but I also find it reductive, as it explains just one of the many facets of their relationship. I would need another post entirely to write a huge essay on all the aspects of how Batman and Joker are inextricably tied, how they need each other and basically can't exist without the other (and I wouldn't even be the best person to do that, there's folks on tumblr who are way better knowledgeable than me on the topic), but to make it short, it definitely is not as simple as "Bruce is one of the victims of Joker's abuse tactics".

But again that's a story dedicated to Bruce, and it doesn't diminish the fact that Bruce did not do anything that mattered in regards to Joker after Jason died (only contextualises it for us readers). Joker kept doing all the things he was already doing before, and another Robin replaced the previous one taking the same spot and the same role, so in every possible sense Jason's death changed nothing. And once he came back, Bruce openly and unmistakably chose Joker over him. Jason said watch me kill him since you can't do it yourself, watch me take my own revenge, and Bruce said no.

There's a meta reason for that too. Joker cannot die, he's the cockroach of DC comics, and if he dies he comes back (like many of them). But that surely doesn't change how the story was told: of all the things that could have happened we were shown that Bruce picks Joker over someone who he once regarded as a son. Batman, who doesn't kill and would never kill and he'd lose himself if he killed, was so desperate to save Joker's life that he sliced a boy's neck and left him to die in a building on fire. That is WILD, enough that many people argue that UTRH is irreconcilable with other Batman stories because of that. We aren't shown that Joker miraculously is alive after a plane crash in this case, or any other absurd thing like this one, we're explicitly told "Batman prefers his revived son to die again, over watching him take revenge on his murderer".

Which makes me circle back to my original point: I hate it when DC writes Jason as the prodigal son who needs a slap on the wrist here and a kick in the butt there. Who has to "earn" Batman's trust and fight for scraps of Bruce's fatherly love. Fan stuff can be whatever fans want, I don't care, but god do I lose my shit when I see that nonsense in canon stories. Bruce and Jason shouldn't even be on talking terms to put it really mildly.

When I see Jason and Bruce acting like the stereotypical "prodigal son and gruff but loving father" (in canon!) my blood boils.

Jason died. Bruce did not avenge him, not even "playing by the rules", so not even by arresting the Joker. He didn't do JACK SHIT after his boy was murdered. And once Jason came back, Bruce slit his throat in order to save the life of the man who murdered him, and then left him to die in a burning building.

They should be unable to coexist in the same room let alone speak let alone have a "difficult but ultimately loving relationship". I hate you DC I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE

[wolfverse-behind-the-scenes]

Hey big brother

Finish the fanfic 1#

"Red wing!" Damian yelled as Tim stumbled back holding his side

"Robin go get Batman" Tim said not taking his eyes off Red hood. Some how the drug Lord had managed to jam there emergency signal.

"I do not take orders from-" He was cut of as Tim stepped infront of him still facing the Red Hood.

"Go get Batman now" Tim grunted adjusting his grip on his bo-staff. Damian started to protest but thought better of it. Instead he swung down the building using his good arm.

"Not so fast" Hood drew his gun out of it's holster. Without thinking Tim lunged forward knocking them both to the ground. Hood leaped to his feet grabbing Tim's bo-staff, using it to pin the vigilante to the ground.

"What do you want?" Tim growled as blood dripped down his lip.

"You don't know?" He bent down, looking Tim in the eye "I thought you were suppose to be the smart on Goldie"

"J-Jason?" Tim sat up, staring in shock as Jason stood back up tossing the bo-staff aside.

"Always knew you'd be the one to figure it out" he smirked taking off the helmet "didn't think it took you this long though" As soon as Tim saw the green glow in his eyes every thing clicked.

"Ras...he put you in the pit" Tim frowned.

"Right again" Jason smiled coldly "but you always were the better Detcive...the better son, no matter how hard I tried I never could live up to you"

"Jay that's not true" Tim said getting to his feets.

"Yes it is and you know it" Jason snarled "but you know what? I was always the better fighter" Tim barely had time to register as Jason hit him knocking him to the edge of the roof.

"Jason you don't want to do this" Tim said holding his side "This isn't you talking it's the pit"

"Don't you get it this is bigger then you bigger than me" he grinned.

"Jason stop it" Tim struggled to get back up "You can come home we'll figure this out"

"You replaced me" Jason snarled grabbing him by the collar.

"Jason you're my younger brother I would never-" Tim was cut off as Jason punched him in the face knocking back on the ground.

"Then why is he running around in that suit" Jason growled circling Tim like a lion about to go in for the kill.

"..." Tim didn't know what to say. He couldn't tell him that Damian stole the suit and snuck out. No, Damian was just a kid he didn't deserve the Pit's wrath.

"You know Ras wants me to bring the kid home" Jason said pulling out his gun "I had others plan I want Bruce to pay I was going to kill his precious robin"

"He's just a kid" Tim protested.

"I was just a kid!" Jason shouted bring the gun to Tim's head "I was just a kid and you let my die then you gave away my suit"

"I didn't let you die" Tim said standing on his knees.

"Yes you did just like your parents and everyone you care about" Jason laughed bitterly.

'He's right' Tim though as a his chest tightened for the overwhelming guilt'it is my fault'

"Which do you think would hurt Bruce more the death of his biological son or the death of his perfect son" Tim closed his eyes accepting his fate...

Now the rest is up to you to finish

Fan fic Based on this Au

[catxsnow]

VENGEANCE T.D.

Summary: After Jason’s death, Tim was the one person that you could lean on, now more than ever. 

Tim x reader and Sister!reader x Jason

Warning: Jason’s death, obviously. swears

A/N: I’m not entirely content with this, might fuck with a part two, who knows.

GIF not mine 

Part Two

Word count: 2.6k

Jason Todd didn't hate Tim Drake.

He never hated Tim, he hated Bruce for allowing Tim to be put into the same situation that he was in. Jason never wanted to see another Robin be brutally murdered like he was. He never wanted another opportunity for some innocent kid who was just trying to make good in the world be beaten to death.

Jason did however, hate Bruce for not getting revenge on his behalf. He hated that Bruce never killed the Joker for killing him. That was why he was filled with so much hate towards the Wayne family. He thought he meant enough to Bruce to cross the line for once. Then again, he also thought that you would too.

You were Jason's younger sister, only by just under two years but he acted as if he was your parent half the time. When the two of you got taken in by Bruce, he became even more protective over you - if that was even possible. You were all Jason had for a very long time.

The shit that the two of you had gone through together, the things that you needed to do to survive, well, nothing could break that bond. Nothing besides the Joker.

The Joker took Jason away from you. When Jason found out that your mother was alive, he went on his own. He knew too well that you would want nothing to do with her - the two of you never got along, not that it was very easy to get along with her in the first place.

So, when Jason was on that cold, concrete floor, beaten half to death and blood dripping everywhere, his last thought was that he was glad you never came with him. He was glad that you never had to go through the pain that he did and the death that followed.

You had never felt so much pain in your life. The heartbreak that Jason's death caused you broke you in ways that you didn't think possible. Jason was the only one that was there for you when you needed someone, he was always the person who knew the right things to say, and wouldn't hesitate to get his hands dirty and make someone pay if they dared hurt you.

Jason was the best big brother you could have ever imagined. Losing him, was like losing a piece of yourself. You couldn't take the pain of missing your other half - so, just like Bruce had done, you put every spare moment of time out on the streets. Your mantle of Batgirl was upheld, but your antics more violent.

Bruce saw it, GCPD saw it, even Dick saw it and he barely stepped foot into the manor after his departure and fight with Bruce. However, no one said anything about it. Bruce was just the same, if not worse. His punches became harder, never ending until his victim was barely breathing. So close to crossing the line, but never far enough to not be able to come back.

And then Tim Drake came around.

He somehow figured out Bruce was Batman and that you were Batgirl. He knew that the two of you needed a Robin, someone that would keep you from passing that line for good. So Bruce took him in, he trained Tim and made him the next Robin.

You didn't mind Tim. He was a nice guy - even though you were very rude to him at first. The loss of Jason turned you in to a completely different person. Cold, untrusting, snappy, nothing like you used to be. He knew what had happened and tried his best to make life better for you.

Slowly, you started to warm up to Tim. You saw him less as a replacement to your brother and more of a friend. He didn't want you to think that he replaced Jason, he simply wanted to help to make sure that you and Batman kept your morals that you spent years maintaining.

He was the reason that you never crossed that line. Tim stopped you from killing the Joker. The moment that he popped his out of the twisted shadows he hid within, you were there, beating the ever living hell out of him. All you could see was him beating Jason, an innocent kid. You did this for Jason, to avenge him.

Joker was left in a bloody, beaten, lifeless pulp when you were done with him. Broken ribs, displaced knees, so much blood on his face that he wasn't recognizable. You wanted to kill him, you tried to, but Tim was the one to swoop in the last minute, stopping you from something you would regret for the rest of your life.

You broke down in his arms, crying that your brother was gone and that he was right, killing the Joker wouldn't bring him back. Tim held you as you bawled, promising that he would be there for you, no matter the pain. You just wanted to feel something other than the heartbreak that filled your chest - so Tim changed that.

Instead of grief, he filled you with happiness, love, desire. Upon trying to help you, Tim fell in love with you along the way. He spent hours with you, training to be better, crying on the year death of your brother, anything  to distract you from the pain. He was there with you every step of the way.

He was scared to tell you how he felt. Scared that you only saw him as a crutch rather than a lover.

On the night of a Wayne gala, he couldn't hold his tongue any longer. You wore the most gorgeous gown that he had ever seen, or maybe it was just because you were the one in it. So, when the two of you danced, hand in hand and effortless gliding across the ballroom, he ended the dance with a kiss.

You weren't expecting it, but the moment that he had his lips on yours, you completely melted into him. Feelings that you never realized were even there erupted through your whole body, a happiness that you hadn't felt since that day. Tim swept you off your feet, literally.

You were happy with Tim. He brought a smile to your face on the hardest of days. Patrolling became something that you looked forward to again rather than feeling like a chore. You were no longer as violent as you once were, Bruce was slowly feeling the same way. Tim brought a light to both of your lives.

Things finally seemed like they were getting back to a place of normalcy. You could sleep at night without waking up from a nightmare, visit Jason's grave (something that was always too painful to do before Tim), even go into Jason's old room. Things were getting easier, but the pain was still there.

"Batgirl to Robin," you spoke over the comms. It was a pretty normal night on patrol - a few common thugs but nothing major. A new and improved Batgirl suit covered your body - you had finally outgrown the old one.

"Robin."

"How do you feel about a late night sushi date after this?" It was nearing the end of your guys night and you were starting to get hungry. The bright lights of a 24-hour sushi restaurant were catching your attention.

"You always hated sushi."

The voice made you jump. This wasn't Tim's voice, in fact it wasn't even over the comms. It was coming from right behind you. Not very many people could sneak up on you - in fact only Batman was able to and this sure as hell wasn't Batman. A tall man with a red helmet and guns holstered on his hips stood before you.

His voice was distorted and you had no idea who it was or where they had come from. Gotham was filled with all kinds of crazy, but only few were skilled enough to best you.

However, it was what he had known about you that threw you off - hating sushi. It was true, you never liked sushi until you met Tim. He had taken you there on a date one evening and before you could complain about the choice of food, he had given you the best meal of your life. Not only did you like the food now, but eating it always reminded you of him.

You decided that attacking first, asking questions later was your best choice. You didn't know who this guy was but you weren't planning on finding out the hard way. This guy could be wanting to kill you - not that you would be surprised. After upholding the mantle for several years after Barbra, you had a pretty long list of enemies.

This guy, wasn't one of them. Yet.

Whoever he was, he knew how to fight. Every move that you pulled on him, he somehow knew how to block, counter, or predict. He managed to dodge nearly all of your attempts at a batarang hit and those that he wasn't able to dodge, deflected off of his helmet. He was good, maybe better than you.

You landed several good punches on him. Since his helmet seemed to be strong, you aimed for the ribs, the knees, and shoulders. However, it seemed that with every hit you got, he had returned. Pain flared up in your ribs and you were sure that they were cracked, if not broken.

The man's kick had pushed you across the roof and you landed painful against the ground. A loud groan was emitted and all the wind was knocked out of your lungs. This guy was good, there was no way that you could take him on your own.

"Robin I-" you never got to finish you sentence. A loud gunshot rang out with a bullet zooming right by your ear. Ringing filled your head and you flinched away from your earpiece.

"Batgirl? Batgirl! What happened? (Y/N)!" Tim yelled. You didn't dare reach to try and speak to him again. Not when his gun was out and pointed right at you. Instead, you raised your arms in a temporary surrender. This man, he obviously wanted something otherwise he would have shot you already.

"What do you want? Who are you?" He never lowered his gun. You narrowed your eyes at him, "you're not going to kill me, so what the hell do you want. Better make it quick, the Bats is on his way."

"You've gotten better at being Batgirl," He finally spoke again. The modulated voice rang loud and clear in the traffic filled night. "I still beat you though, just like always."

Just like always? What the hell was this guy talking about. You had never met him before in your life. You had fought a lot of people in your line of work but you would have remember someone like him - someone that could put you on your ass in a matter of minutes.

A fear began to well in your chest about what was going to happen to you. A fear that maybe this man would bring you to the same demise as your brother. It had been a long time since you feared death.

"What do you want?" You repeated a final time. With a wince, you pushed yourself off the ground, eye level with the barrel of his gun. Obviously, he didn't trust you enough for you to be standing without a weapon pointed between your eyes. You just hoped that Tim and Bruce would show up fast enough before this guy could do anything to you.

"Your brother would be disappointed in you."

Your breath caught in your throat. How did he know about Jason? How did he know what had happened to him? And mostly importantly, how did he know that you could never bring yourself to kill the joker? This man knew who you were, your real identity - or maybe he was just bluffing.

You didn't give him a reaction, that had to have been what he was looking for. How he knew your brother - and you- and why he was interested in the relationship, left you more confused than anything. You wanted to know how this man was, and more importantly, you wanted to know what he wanted.

"You don't know anything about me."

"I know everything about you," he argued, his voice rising. "You couldn't avenge your brother, you let Batman replace him, what else have you done?"

"He never would have wanted me to cross that line, because he knew I would never be able to come back!" You matched his voice. Your fists clenched at your sides and you suddenly felt furious that this man standing in front of you pretended that he knew who you were and who Jason was.

"He would have wanted you to make sure that no one took the mantle of Robin again, he would have wanted you to make sure that no one would have to share the same death as him but what did you do? You welcomed the replacement right into your bed!" This man seemed to know more about your life than you would have ever thought.

Very few people knew your identity, Tim's, and Bruce's. You made sure that it was kept well under wraps so that cases like this would never have happened. No, this stranger was taunting you in the worst kinds of ways - your brother, and what he meant to you.

You always thought that you had done Jason's memory well - maybe not perfect but he wouldn't have been wanted to be remembered as the perfect son. He was brave, dauntless, he acted real and never caved into the posh society that the two of you were dragged into. Jason was human, and you made sure he was remembered that way.

Your jaw clenched and you swore that you face twitched in anger. Seeing red, you didn't notice that the man had picked up one of your previously thrown batarangs and threw it right into your shoulder. You cried out in pain and before you could retaliate, he was gone. You braced yourself for the pain and pulled out the metal just as Tim arrived on the rooftop with you.

"(Y/N)," Tim sighed in relief. He rushed over to you, pulling you into a tight hug. His hands cupped your face and without thinking, he kissed you. "I was so worried, you didn't answer and I heard the gunshot. I thought you were dead." You shook your head, still fazed by the interaction.

"He knew who I was," You voice trembled. You finally looked over at Tim. He saw the blood drip from your shoulder and pressed his hand into the wound to hopefully slow the bleeding. "He knew who Jason was. Tim, h-he... the things he said, he thought that I would have been a disappointment to him."

"You know that's bull," Tim promised you. You were too much of an emotional mess to even feel the pain coursing through your body. "Jason would be so proud of the person you've become. You've saved so many lives - he would be happy for you. We're going to find this guy, he'll get the justice he deserves."

"No," You shook your head. The anger that he had cast upon you only kept growing in your chest. No one, disrespected your brother's memory, ever. You were going to make sure of that. 

"I want him dead."

[angelswithcigarettes]

“A new trust”

Summary: After Gideon leaves Morgan is left with picking up the pieces. But he doesn't have to do it alone.

Series: The journey of finding a home [Part 2]

Warnings: Past Child Abuse, Past Rape/Non-Con

Relevant Tags: Autistic Spencer Reid

Pairing: Derek Morgan/Spencer Reid

Word Count: 8613

First Chapter:

[If you haven’t read the first part you probably won’t get this]

The reason why this works. Why Spencer can do this job. Why Spencer can be on the team, why he is this good is because Gideon does everything else.

Getting him up in the morning if he isn't already, getting him to work, making sure he knows what to do, making sure he has everything he needs, communicating for him with the others if he does need something, making sure he doesn't forget to eat and drink, getting him home, getting him to bed and doing the same things over and over and over again no matter were there are no matter what they are doing,the plans need to be changed in the exact way that it won't upset him and if it does he needs to find a way to tell him why this needs to be done and why this is not a thing that is bad.

But now, the letter addressed to Spencer already found, Hotch and Morgan are standing in Hotch's office trying to make some sense out of everything while JJ got Spencer to calm down for a while. It had been four days of an absolute chaos leaving not only Spencer but also the others exhausted.

Spencer always had a firm hand to guide him eventhough it was not a kind one for 19 years it was still someone who told him exactly what to do and Gideon tried to make him more independent but it had always been a constant.

"Gideon can I do this?"

"Gideon can I eat?"

"Gideon can I go to the bathroom?" "Gideon can I take my jacket off?" And now he doesn't know how to ask or who to ask.

"You spend a lot of time with him you need to know this."

"It's up at six, shower, coffee, gideon comes into the apartment at seven, eating at least one toast, shoes on, jacket on out of the apartment."

"You need to know more than this." Hotch's nerves are working overtime right now. Strauss his breathing down his neck for a replacement, he has to do interviews and on top he has to take care of this.

They owe Spencer that much.

His eyes traile back onto Spencer's book. It was an attempt to make him speak more with the team, but he wasn't really bothered and more frustrated by it so Gideon was always keeping it with him but it was almost never used.

What used was was Spencer's notebook were he writes everything down he wants to say when he can't.

The last words looking at Hotch, burning itself into his mind. "Gideon left" It was written under something completely irrelevant but these two words were the foundation of talking to Spencer over the last days. "I want to see Gideon now."

"Kid you can't see him."

"It's 8pm. Gideon comes for dinner."

"He doesn't today. What does your notebook say?" Morgan had been kneeling down in front of him pointing on the two words.

"Gideon left."

"That's right. What does leave your conclusion for the evening with?"

"No Gideon. Gideon left."

"That's right so we are going to eat dinner alone."

"Yes. With Gideon. Gideon steps by at 8PM."

They haven't even found out what happened until both of them didn't show up to work and Morgan drove to their apartments to check on them finding Spencer sitting on his kitchen table. The empty coffee cup in front of him. "What's going on kid? You are suppose to be at work now."

"I am waiting for Gideon." He points at his chart at the wall. "Gideon will come by at 7am" He reads.

"Do you know were he is?"

"Gideon left."

"He left?"

"Yes."

"What happened? Why did he leave?"

"It's in the letter."

"In the letter?"

"Yes in the letter. I am waiting for Gideon. We eat breakfast together next." Confused and with a tight throat Morgan grabs the envelope reading everything that was written and knowing that this was going to be hell for every single one of them.

"We are going to drive to the office now."

"I am waiting for Gideon."

"No Gideon today, I will take you." Nervously he grabs Spencer's shoes and gets him into them while Spencer is visibly confused by why Morgan was doing this. "It's gonna be okay" He takes Spencer foot and places it on his thigh tying the shoelaces. He collects Spencer's note book and checks Spencer's jacket if he has his stim toys in them and when he sees he doesn't he walks into the kitchen to get one. "Alright it's warm we will just take the jacket for precaution." Spencer hates going anyway without a jacket a jacket provides pockets were he can keep his stuff and something he can feel safe in. He likes the blue FBI jacket, the summer one the most but he can only were them on duty so Gideon got him one without the emblem. Careful Morgan holds his hand out for Spencer to take it and he does,his cold long finger grabbing Morgan's and then following out of the apartment like a scared child.

"You spend your free time with him-"

"And that's it. Me interfering in any of the routines was never something Spencer allowed. I could be there for breakfast or when he goes to bed but I was never allowed to do anything that Gideon did and we tried to talk to him about it but he just wouldn't understand it that someone else would do those things without wanting something in return."

They had been an evening were Morgan tried getting the night routine done with him because Gideon wasn't in town because of a family emergency and Morgan had promised him it would work out just fine he can leave Spencer with him.

Eating dinner,getting into the bathroom, encouraging him to shower, blow drying his hair, pyjamas on, making sure he brushes his teeth and then into bed with him letting him ramble if he needs to and then going out of the apartment when he says goodnight.

But everything after getting him into the bathroom was a disaster. Getting undressed wasn't a problem for Spencer, since he never felt like he had the right to hide his body from anyone anyways but Morgan felt uncomfortable until reminding himself that this is not hurting Spencer.

But showering needed a whole more motivating, first the temperature wasn't right and until he was finally in the bathtub with shower head they had passed the twenty minute mark and Spencer was crying,sitting down while Morgan washes his hair out. "What am I doing wrong? Please tell me." He had begged and then had to bite back his own tears just continuing with what Gideon had told him to do and then finally he was laying in bed, Morgan on the chair next to bed and he felt like he cheated death a couple of times that night.

"Okay everything like before I will help you. Morning and night routine like Jason did." Hotch's last thing he wants is to make this even more traumatic than it is already is for him.

"I got this."

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