#boiled his character down to like he is evil and bad in that episode LOL
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Can I just say for all the people saying Belos âdeserves a pathetic deathâ and alike, I agree but itâs not about the death itself. He didnât suffer, he died thinking he was right and trying to continue his manipulation, trying to start all over again. I think for his death to be truly satisfying he needed to remember, he needed to be plagued with visions of the past and the consequences of his actions, how they have amounted to nothing and destroyed his body and his mind in the process. I wanted him to realise, and this could have happened AND them leaving him to die in the rain and stomping on his skull. I understand most people watching the owl house arenât looking for signs Belos is completing the hubris, harmatia, peripeteia, anagnorisis timeline of tragedy like I was because I keep thinking abt him through the lense of my tragedy course lol but I really wish he had that anagnorisis, that moment of realisation. I just wish he didnât die thinking he could be martyred in any way for his efforts and death for his cause hmm
Edit: SORRY I turned reblogs off bc this was meant to be just throwing a thought out there before I rewatch the episode tmr and my opinion may change and I am not in a mental state to debate things or respond to people atm
#toh#toh spoilers#owl house spoilers#noggin time#I Hope this makes sense and I didnât forget anything. I just keep seeing posts like haha he got stomped on but itâs a STORY and stories#deserve to complete the things they build up properly#AND he was the most interesting part of the show to me the nuances of what brought him to this point and his own delusions and they just#boiled his character down to like he is evil and bad in that episode LOL#I did like it btw I will rewatch soon when Iâve gotten over the fact that none of the things I was looking forward to were in it#I ultimately need to accept this show was made for 13 yr old who like anime and fantasy novels and not me really lol ANYWAY. reading my book#about the witchcraft delusion of colonial Connecticut RAAAAAAAHHH#the owl house#guy who starts tumblr text post abt Disney tv show with can I just say⊠embarrassing
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Of all the opinions Iâve seen on The Sopranos since I started watching it last year, one of the ones I hate the most is the idea that Richard and Elliot are ultimately proven ârightâ about Tony. Richard and Elliot do not know Tony! They have never talked to him! And they are literally, factually, not right about him, especially Richard. In âTennessee Moltisanti,â Richardâwho knows nothing about Tony except that you shouldnât use anti-Italian slurs around himâtells Melfi that eventually sheâll get past âmoral relativismâ and reach âgood and evil. And heâs evil.â Later in that episode, in the family therapy scene, he says that Melfi acknowledged that, in her last encounter with Tony, she saw his âsubhumanâ side, a word I am 100% sure Melfi herself did not use because come on. Elliot at least doesnât use these words, but he doesnât see any good in Tony and consistently acts like Melfi is deluding herself by holding out hope for him. (Iâm not going to get into The Blue Comet in this post for the sake of keeping it concise.) But Melfi has seen that Tony has compassion and a conscience, and so have we in the audience. We know more than Richard and Elliot, and so does she!
Now, Tony is obviously not a good person by any means. I think even Melfi would agree with that. But he is a person who, despite his harsh upbringing, despite the machismo and brutality his position demands, still has a tiny spark of tenderness and compassion inside him. That's what makes him so compelling! Of course he was never going to change for the better, because thatâs not the kind of show this is. But that is a statement about The Sopranos, a fictional show made by writers who have a certain artistic vision in mind. It does not mean that Tony as a personâi.e., viewed from in-universeâhad no choices, that he could never have changed for the better at all, that he was a destined to be a waste of Melfi's time. It's fair to disagree with Melfi's approach to treating Tony, but the idea that both she and the audience are fools for thinking that a human being who has been shaped into a villain by forces beyond his control is still a human being, with all the value and responsibilities that entails, is so fucking r/im14andthisisdeep it makes my skin crawl.
I realize this post is kind of dramatic, and partly thatâs because, well, Iâve just always been the sort of person who gets really dramatic about her blorbos, but itâs also because I hate the brutally cynical, weirdly black-and-white worldview thatâs implicit in this reading of the show. I hate it so much!!! The Sopranos is very realistic about the limits of what willpower can do, but itâs also very realistic about portraying its protagonist as someone deeply human: someone with a capacity for both evil and good, who does bad things and justifies them by pretending he didnât have a choice, but I never bought it, and neither did Melfi. Tony cannot simply stop being a mob boss and start being a saint any more than he can simply stop being depressed, but he does have good in him, and he does have the capacity to make better choices, otherwise the story is utterly pointless!!!Â
This has been on my mind because I read Emily Nussbaumâs article about the finale, in which she describes Richard and Elliot as âhard to listen to but essentially correct,â and sorry Emily, I think youâre very smart and a good writer, but my god, I hate this article. To me, it boils down to âthe finale was Chase scolding us for empathizing with and caring about Tonyâ which is not at all how I see the show, and thank goodness, because I think it would be pretty ridiculous to spend eight years telling the story of a deeply human, deeply relatable character and then be like âlol wait, you guys related to him? Cringe! Hashtag societyâ or whatever. She says that in the final half season, Tony âwas becoming his real self: the empty golem.â Seriously? The version of Tony whoâs had most of his humanity sapped from him is his âreal selfâ? SERIOUSLY? Okay. Iâm gonna go calm down now. I promise. (I actually have one other point I want to make related to the Richard-and-Elliot thing, but Iâll save that for another post because this one is looooong.) I'd just like to close this post with this comment that I've posted here before and will probably post again because I love it so much and it makes me tear up whenever I think of it:
#my original draft of this post was even longer but I managed to cut like 100 words#The Sopranos#Tony Soprano#the motherfucking fucking one who calls the shots#x#Anna watches tv#Anna watches The Sopranos#I have many thoughts
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remus isn't dumb; a sanders sides essay
i've been struggling to make a cohesive post about this because i feel like most of what i want to say boils down to the same underlying message which is: remus isn't dumb.
i feel like a good chunk of this fandom understands what i mean, at least to a surface level point. but even then, i think too much of the fandom still misinterprets remus' character in a way that, they seem to understand different traits of his, but the way they execute it is still way off from what we see in canon.
(rest of the essay under the cut!)
for example, the biggest thing i see people get wrong would be the way they write remus "lol random" personality. it's true that remus tends to say whatever he wants at any given moment. but, the problem here is that people tend to think remus as random in function. i have no better way to describe this succinctly, so to expound: while remus tends to make left-field jokes a lot, he is shown to be incredibly deliberate, cunning, committed, and intelligent in very subtle ways.
truth is, remus is very goal-oriented, and when he has a goal, oh he strives for that goal. so far, i'm writing this with the last 5 years episode being the most recent substantial episode, so i can't really 100% say all my assumptions of remus are true. actually, i think the upcoming season finale will be the missing link when it comes to providing us with the whole picture of who remus is.
as for now, i just have to stick with my theory of; remus, as a side of thomas' heavily connected to insecurities and mental health issues, intends to shed light on the "darker" sides of thomas because he believes them to be beneficial. throughout dwit, we see remus continuously bolster the idea that his contributions are useful for thomas. this continues in wtit, but with the extra layer of remus wanting logan as well to be in touch with the darker parts of himself to get thomas in line.
it is also heavily implied that remus is well in on whatever janus' plan is to get thomas to be a.) more aware of his mental health issues, and b.) to get thomas to break out of his catholic black and white thinking. in forbidden fruit, it's janus whoâs seen permitting remus to present himself to thomas. bigger evidence though, as i've mentioned in the previous paragraph, is the way remus seems to deliberately want logan to manifest his anger against thomas.
of course, we can always say that remus taunted logan "just for fun", but i feel like too much of what happened in wtit seem to point to remus having deeper reasons. for example, wtit exhibits how bad thomas' mental health is to the point that he gets irrationally angry at nico for not replying to his texts. this proves how thomas has been neglecting his mental health, and with the way patton, virgil, and roman held onto toxic selfless ideologies for the longest time, thomas would still, naturally, be lost on what to do. he would even seem to deny how bad things have gotten, especially with the way he acts like nothing bad is happening when he goes to his date with nico.
why am i emphasizing this? well, it's because something i find interesting about remus' character is how deeply cognizant he is of thomas' problems. what i mean by this is, no other side can call out thomas' issues more than remus can. i wrote an essay about this before if you want to check this out, but tldr: remus, as intrusive thoughts, is the most perceptive out of all the sides when it comes to calling out insecurities or problems. we see this come to fruition in wtit when all of the traps he laid out for thomas involved nico in some capacity.
while you can interpret his character as evil for preying on othersâ insecurities, i think it's important to acknowledge that, in a sea of people who tend to refuse to talk about their issues, remus is the main guy who constantly brings them to the table. whether remus' intentions are good or not, there's no denying that remus' importance as a side lies in the fact that he serves as a mental health alarm clock for thomas. with the way none of the sides want to communicate with each other, we need someone like remus to cut the bullshit and say things as it is.Â
again, we don't really know if he wants to help thomas. but i would like to emphasize that, yes, remus is not dumb. he does not merely make lewd jokes and calls it a day. he has the long-term goal of making everyone talk about more "taboo" topics with each other, and this includes talking about personal grievances the sides tend to suppress or refuse to talk about. lewd jokes are just part of the process.
i think this goal of his is also incredibly visible with the way remus treated logan in wtit. wtit is my favorite sanders sides episode because there's just so much to analyze between remus and logan, but you can check my other essays in regards to that. the main thing i wanted to point out is that what remus says to logan in the end, "woowee logan, now you're speaking my language. but who do you really want to scream that at?", proves he is more deliberate and cunning than he seems.
a lovely bit of analysis my friend orb (@orbmanson7) provided is that remus didn't just pop up in wtit to intervene with thomas' plans. he was there to intervene with logan's. if you've seen my other essays, i've talked about how logan as a side has been dwindling in terms of self-confidence and assertion. this has left a big problem of thomas being more reliant on his emotions, making him ignore the suggestions given by logan that may help with thomas' mental health in the long run. this is not to villainize thomas' mental health crisis, btw. all i want to say is that, remus recognizes how logan's self-restriction is doing no good and deliberately wants to push logan to become more assertive and angry.
that is why he says logan is speaking his language. he wants logan to recognize the merit in the way remus grabs thomas' attention. he wants logan to be like him and cause more havoc. again, we never know how much remus genuinely wants to help thomas, but we know that remus wants everyone to be more exposed to "taboo" things, and this includes logan being more in touch with his angrier side.
besides that, i'd like to mention how, in general, remus tends to be very committed to his goals more than how the fandom typically portrays him? in dwit, remus' main goal was to disturb thomas and the other sides. it's kind of just an introduction to his character. we're not sure if it's part of a bigger plan he and janus devised to get thomas to take care of himself better, but it is a possibility. the only time he gets too random is when logan begins picking apart his arguments. there we see remus only results to super left-field, continuous off-tangent jokes when he's desperate or placed in a lose-lose situation.
another, in wtit, we see how remus understands how to make very long, complicated traps. i think it's a perfect encapsulation of his personality, actually! throughout the episode, we see him make these multilayered traps with a ton of props and preparation just so he can bother thomas with it. it shows that remus is actually less impulsive-oriented as he seems. he even created a schedule he showed to logan detailing everything he wanted to do that day. again, deliberate! he is deliberate and very smart!
other thing i'd like to harken back to is the idea that he's in cahoots with the other dark sides to execute some Big Plan to break thomas out of his black and white thinking. while we don't know how orange acts like yet, we're Very familiar with janus by this point and we can see how long-drawn janus' plan of acceptance is. he's, again, sorry to use the word so many times, very deliberate. i don't even think his plan ends with svs.r, because it does seem like remus is well in on this plan too. in the 5 years video, he also seems to know more than thomas on what else is to come for the future of sanders sides, which implies he has some plans up his sleeve that no one else knows about. like i said, janus has the goal to break thomas out of his black and white thinking. and so far from what we've seen from remus, he also wants the same!
an important factor of remus' character besides his deliberateness is his general need to subvert what "goodness" means. "good and bad are all made up nonsense," he sings in forbidden fruit. throughout dwit he continuously criticizes everything thomas thinks is good or acceptable. in the 5 years video, he argues about how there's no "correct way of sitting". i think this also proves how remus is important as a side because, while not every single one of his beliefs are morally acceptable, he is still able to pick morality apart in a way the other sides are unable to. also, i just think this proves his character as just. generally smart? he's able to pick apart the status quo and moral philosophies, of course he's smart.
just to pick up on a previous point, remus is scarily perceptive. i mentioned this earlier with how remus is able to pick logan apart, but i'd like to add onto it more since i think a lot of people underestimate how crazily perceptive he is. for one, despite not being too close with a bunch of the other sides, he seems to be able to read their insecurities and play them against them really well. we see it in the way he uses virgil's insecurities of being an ex-dark side against him. we see it in the way he picks on patton and thomas' morality crisis against them. we see it in the way roman describes remus as someone being able to show him things he doesn't like about himself. and most importantly, we see it in the way remus constantly reaps the fact that logan isn't listened to to the point that logan snaps. as intrusive thoughts, remus' job is to see what deepest darkest secrets thomas and the sides suppress and use it against them.
at the moment, we don't really know if remus has any weaknesses, although wtit sort of implies that he himself is also quite irritated by the fact that thomas doesn't listen to him. he does a good way of hiding, though, how much of that problem is genuinely affecting him. it makes me think he's also smart in the way he's able to hide his vulnerabilities and true intentions from the other side. he's silly and goofy and lewd and because of that, everyone thinks he's harmless. the sides think he's unserious, and so does the fandom. but deep down, remus really isn't that stupid.Â
and LASTLY, when beta reading this essay, orb also mentioned to me about how remus possesses cognitive flexibility in a way roman doesnât. this isnât meant to discredit roman of course, but i think itâs important to mention that remus is the side with the least amount of restrictions when it comes to creative liberties. orb mentioned to me how remus is able to connect concepts easily in a way roman doesnât because remus doesnât operate under the same self-restrictive mindset. while this obviously would help thomas become more innovative as a creative, i think itâs also important to recognize how much thomas kind of needs it in general. much of the latter half of the series shows thomas dealing with restrictions, especially when it comes to doing good. it would be great benefit for thomas to be able to listen to a side who generally wants to Have a Good Time, and doesnât abide by rules imposed onto them.
and yes that is my essay on remus 100/10 best character and is not dumb at all. very excited to see him in the finale and i hope yâallâs get your characterizations straight because i need me some good ficsÂ
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ALRIGHT HEREâS MY HOT TAKE FOR TRON
Lowkey,,,, After seeing the leaked scriptâŠ. Iâm kinda???? Glad Uprising got canceled.
Based on what little we see, what was there was good, but I donât think it would have lived up to the hype. Not to mention that while Iâm not a fan of Legacy whatsoever, I think they made Clu a lot more complex in the movie, and itâs a damn shame that based on both the script we see, and the little screentime, Clu was whittled down to being a pretty one-dimensional villainâand THAT is why I think the second Season would have failed. It would have failed to capture what makes Clu so dangerous. Heâs not JUST evil. Heâs literally a copy of Flynnâhe shares his traits, and that includes the good parts whether we as an audience like it or not. He came into power for that LITERAL reason (read the prequel comic itâs so interesting and itâs basically a mirror of Flynn and Cluâs perspectives of what went wrong).
One other thing Legacy did that admittedly also bummed me Uprising tossed aside was that Flynn was genuinely not a good creator. I mean itâs somewhat highlighted in scars, but not really?
I guess TLDR: It boiled Flynn down to being the Good one, and Clu to being the Bad one. Because of that, Iâm not sure Uprisingâs writing would have still been good if it continued with Clu coming into the picture.
As someone who has read the comic and still wants to beat up Clu 2 with a baseball bat, I can see your stance on this!
(Sorry this is REALLY LONG, bear with me because I like discussing things!)
I donât know if it wouldâve âlived up to the hypeâ and what that entails. Back then viewers of the show were few and far in-between, so I donât really know how high the hype wouldâve been (especially because anyone who knows legacy, knows uprising wasnât likely gonna end in a happy ever after LMAO)
Nowadays, the expectations for stakes and what couldâve happened are larger considering how long itâs been, but who knows if it couldâve lived up to the hype back then. Maybe it couldâve. Maybe it wouldnât have. Who knows. They never finished writing season 2, so the writers probably donât even know lol.
Yeah, Clu 2âs not that complex in season 1 and in the movie script/unfinished storyboard. Personally, I donât care much for Cluâs lack of complexity in the first season, mostly because he was not a focus at all. More a symbol.
Also, uprising shows brief glimpses of the view programs have of him, mostly Tronâs, so it makes sense we donât see outside of that view. I do understand your point, though. Iâd love for his âgoodâ characteristics to shine for a bit, to show how he got into power, but I believe that just wasnât able to be shoved into season 1 (there was already so much they needed to establish in the early episodes, and after that they had so many villains to work with)
I donât believe they didnât plan on showing Clu 2âs âgoodâ side, but Iâll also be one to admit that I wouldnât mind, because weâve got legacy and betrayal if you like that perspective of him.
Same goes with Flynn: the show Isnât about him, having time devoted to showing how he isnât perfect isnât Needed if thereâs an entire movie that showcased that imo.
Uprising uses its characters when needed in the story; Scars wanted to use flashbacks to show Tronâs downfall from protector to prisoner, so that Had to have involved his past working with Flynn and Clu 2. Besides that, thereâs little reason to show Flynn in this season, nor later seasons (because he just stayed in his cave for the most part?)
I donât think heâs necessarily shown as a good creator in Scars, because he clearly cares more about the future than the life programs live on the grid, but it wasnât shown in an obvious manner.
Maybe they were going to show Flynn more in other ways like him getting involved in the revolution, maybe not, but I wouldnât want him to be reintroduced just to show how he wasnât perfect. I believe he should be used in the story when applicable. STILL, I understand the argument!!
Itâs a pretty interesting take overall, even if I donât entirely agree with the arguments!! :)
#hope this made sense LMAO#The one thing Iâm Sort-Of-Not-Really-But-Still-Kinda glad about with Uprisingâs cancellation:#there was a chance later seasons were going to focus more on the overarching plot of the revolution#leaving little room for personal individual conflict unrelated to the revolution#So I do agree that the show is kinda better off like this if the personal conflict started fading away in later seasons#but thatâs my bias I just like personal conflicts yknow#tron#tron uprising#tronblr#tron legacy#i ramble
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re: Love Between Fairy and Devil, episode 10
it was wicked cool that Evil Overlord and Orchid's failure to communicate boiled down to him being unable to comprehend why a sterile replica of her home could not give her the same sense of comfort, welcome, and security... and her unable to comprehend that he DIDN'T KNOW what was missing: she doesn't spell out to him why it matters that what he gave her is lifeless and missing her real plant companions, and as soon as she realized that her joy was gone. She assumes he MUST know. She may not even be able to articulate in words why the "perfect" imitation is not the same as all.
It's absolutely tragic if you are read into his backstory: after bad daddy cut away his ability to love, hate, feel saddness and fear... how would he know you are missing the emotional components of "home" when the physical are present? So of course he is frustrated and confused and a hot mess about it (omg! emotionz!)
And is she going to gently & patiently explain and teach him? LOL NO. tbh Orchid is not super empathetic as a character, actually. Which is interesting about her - she is indeed very kind and gentle, but also self-involved. She's sincerely not terribly interested in what Evil Overlord is up to, what his dreams and pains are. She doesn't want him dead, but beyond that she's not terribly interested in his inner life. He's been forced to consider what will make her happy; in contrast she's likely spent little to no time considering the same about her temporary 'roommate'. Orchid's besties are plant spirits with limited lives, so she actually is almost as terribly socialized as he is -- just with the benefit of no magical spiritual surgery. In most interactions, we see Orchid focused on her own goals and desires, and on the dreamy #1 war god she admires. Far from a selfless martyr or passive. The fact that she is extremely underpowered, and so has learned to bend & scrape when needed, should not be confused with passivity. She is quite focused on her own objectives and desires. She likes the boy she likes, she is determined to cure her immortal root, she keeps her eye on the prize of passing the qualification to be assigned a fairy position. It's established in plot set-up that she's been bleeding her friends of the little money they had, to buy potion after potion in pursuit of her ambitions lol
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7 Anti LO Asks
1. Do you know what really gets my blood boiling about this comic? Persephone and Demeter's relationship.
In the myths, Demeter and Persephone loved each other more than anything. Their reunion is so important - it marked the coming of spring and growth. A whole cult was dedicated to this for crying out loud. Yes, the myths were far from perfect, but the Persephone and Demeter myth showed the strength of a loving mother-daughter relationship with Demeter searching endlessly to find her child that was ripped away and had her innocence forcibly taken.
Now, RS is not the only author to make Demeter this over-bearing mother type in order to put more positivity onto the Hades-Persephone relationship. However, RS takes this trend to a whole new level - to the point where I would even consider it misogyny.
How is it, she takes this beautiful mother-daughter relationship and makes it out to be an abusive and controlling one, and then takes the Hades-Persephone relationship from a forceful one to a loving, perfect relationship with no problems? How is it ok to ruin one relationship to elevate another?
I understand that many versions of the myth try to downplay Hades' actions, and even make it so Persephone actually falls in love with him and there is no rape. But it doesn't change that this relationship was problematic, and meant to represent the loss of innocence.
Then fans have the gall to claim this comic is feminist and then claim on top of that that Demeter and Persephone's relationship was the same in the myth? These fans clearly don't know the myths, and neither does RS.
Making Hades a good person is fine. Changing it up a bit to make Persephone's loss of innocence something else is also fine. But ruining Demeter and Persephone's relationship? Especially when Persephone has to spend half the year with her? So horrible.Â
2. im sorry, but rachel cant introduce KRONOS coming back and then dropping it for several episodes to focus on a stake-less trail and persephone not knowing what lingerie to seduce hades in. like thats too much of an earth shaking development and huge stake plot point to just ignore for months to focus instead on something as minor as hxp's relationship, which only points out a huge flaw: why is hxp's relationship so minor in this? isnt the whole point supposed to be about them?
3. I think LO completely dropped the ball over Hadesâ characterization.Â
From the first ep I thought ok, this is good, we have some bones to see heâs not that lucky in love and is just tired and lonely, and while ignoring the creepy actions towards Persephone, I thought ok, Artemis hates him, Hestia hates, even Ares hates him, maybe once Persephone finally sees the underworld and probably gets to know him itâll be a clever twist and theyâll be proven wrong. The underworld will turn out to be fair and just, the citizens will love Hades, heâll be revealed to be a good leader and king and not like his brothers, itâll be like everyone saying Hades of myth isnât actually that bad, and itâll help reinforce why this sweet and bubbly Persephone wants him, she sees the real him, not the mean rumors and assumptions, this is perfect.
And then it just didnât happen. The exact opposite happened, actually.
Weâre shown the LO underworld is cruel and unjust, where the poor dead are forced into slavery and Hades created a harsh class divide with him and him only on top, the citizens hate him, the underworld gods donât trust him and openly seem ok if heâs taken out of power, heâs not a good leader and king and doesnât even want the job yet keeps it for his own ego and grip of power m, and on top of it all he is just like his brothers, if not worse. He loves to get violent over any little slight against him, he hoards wealth and resources to enrich himself while his citizens starve and struggle to survive, heâs corrupt, he controls all the media and laws to bend to his will, sleeps with his brothers wife for centuries behind his back while claiming to be holier than thou, he has sex with his secretaries who are made dependent on him for any way to survive, and now he lusts after his barely legal intern who is also now dependent on him for her way to survive, and thatâs only what I remember off the top of my head.
LO perfectly set up to prove Hades isnât the devil or the false pop culture assumption that heâs evil and to show some actual facts from myth, and yet Rachel only ended up reinforcing exactly that and even making him even worse with her made up ideas, all while thinking having Persephone ignore or excuse it somehow makes it not bad or even a good thing. Itâs honestly kind of impressive just how bad of writing that actually is.Â
4. Chapter 172 is not that interesting. Itâs setup had me excited to see Hephaestus and Hera and learning more about echo, but itâs cut so short. Because again the story canât leave HXP out for 2 seconds.
I can also see why Zeus is gonna go insane.Â
5. i agree w/ other anon. LO should have pulled a PJO or a BoZ and just made up OCs and have them interact with the gods than whatever Rachel thinks shes doing, which is lying she's being accurate and faithful while completely changing all of it, removing what is needed, and adding what isnt so that it lines up with no actual myth besides like, various 50 shades fanfic she read in 2015 and some popular tumblr text posts.
6 . the animation studio behind blood of zeus literally can only draw one face for the men and one face for the women and they were still able to make the gods all look distinct and hot while LO can't even bother to use more than 6 colors and can only have the women look as tiny as possible with the biggest boobs while the men are all just lego men.
7. ////FP SPOILERS////
Okay so like I stopped reading LO way back before season 1 ended, and a majority of my knowledge of the series comes from what I read here on your blog which is enough for me lol and I decided to read the latest 5 chapters just to see what's up (on zahard. I refuse to give the actual series any views)
And I just. Could not take the whole scene with Daphne running from Apollo seriously? The anatomy and art inconsistency was so distracting that i genuinely could not find it serious. Even when Thanatos discovers her hibernated body I couldn't take it seriously because of how she looked?
And when Hades had that call (??? Was it a call? Or his inner dialogue? I couldn't really tell ngl) with Zeus and said he's causing Persephone unnecessary distress, and that she didn't pose any threat. B!tch??? She killed a ton of mortals??? She has no control over her powers???? She's literally a fugitive for the aforementioned things??? She apparently woke Kronos up? (Idk if anyone knows about that, again my knowledge only spans to whatever I read here) Hello????
And I have a lot to say about the chapters starting the trial but I'll only mention one thing; Hades saying "I don't think blindly supporting my little brother would be doing him any favours (as a ruler)" had me cackling. This is coming from a guy blindly supporting a girl he's literally only known for a few weeks, who's like what, only recently turned 20? Sit tf down Hades you're not cool, you creepy ass overgrown smurf.
Overall I still hate this series lmao. Regarding art though I feel like I wouldn't be so miffed about the anatomy much if the character designs were consistent and the story was compelling. They literally change hairstyles and body types frame by frame, and it's distracting.
The timeline from what I read here is laughable. 4 years in publication with almost 200 chapters and you're telling me only like a month has passed canonically. That's wild and such poor writing.
And as someone who literally will sympathise with any lead character pretty quickly, the story makes me hate them. It makes me want to root against them. I also hate the fact this trash is somehow top ranked on webtoons when so many other stories are far better then it.
Anyway, many thanks to this blog for existing and allowing me to dump so much text here to vent out my hate for this series lmao. You the mvp fam, hope you're having a good day đ„đ„đ„
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Thoughts on Pokemon the Movie: Koko/Secrets of the Jungle and the future of Pokemon movies
*Artwork credited to ăăŒă«ăă on pixiv*
I recently watched the Japanese version of the 23rd Pokemon movie, titled âKokoâ in Japan or âSecrets of the Jungleâ in the recent US release. As far as Pokemon movies go, itâs definitely one of the better ones and is continuing the new trend for Pokemon movies that started with I Choose You (Movie 20) and was especially apparent in The Power of Us (Movie 21), namely, diverging from the canon of the anime series and giving Ash and Pikachu more supportive roles in favor of focusing on other characters. As I mentioned in my review of Movie 21, that was the first Pokemon movie in 20 years to have a new director, Tetsuo Yajima, and I for one am incredibly pleased with his work on that movie and this one. I hope heâs allowed to keep directing the Pokemon movies and maybe even a new anime series.
Iâll come back to this topic of the future of the Pokemon movies/anime later, but first I wanted to share my thoughts on Koko/Secrets of the Jungle in particular:
*MOVIE SPOILERS START HERE*
-This movie is, at itâs core, a Pokemon version of the Tarzan story. And I think itâs done very well, way better than a similar story the original Pokemon anime did for a kid who was raised by Kangaskhan (Iâm sure all you older Pokemon fans remember that weird episode).
-The song that the Zarude sing at the beginning caught me off guard, but then I found it kind of catchy (the Japanese version I mean. Not sure how they did it in the English version). I was apprehensive at first that this was going to be another movie where (non-psychic) pokemon can talk for no apparent reason, which is something Iâm not a fan of. So I was relieved to find out that theyâre actually talking in their own language.
-I love the song by singer Beverly thatâs played during the montage of Zarude Dada raising baby Koko. Again, not sure if the English version uses the same song or not.
-One of my favorite parts of the movie is when Ash shows Koko around the town and he sees people and pokemon interacting for the first time. That is just such an interesting concept: someone who was raised as a pokemon seeing people for the first time and how theyâve built a world with pokemon. I would have been fine if the whole movie was simply Koko reacting to and learning about the Pokemon world as we know it.
-I believe Prof. Zed is the very first Pokemon movie villain, or even villain in the overall franchise, who blatantly committed murder. Even though I found this refreshingly dark for a Pokemon movie, his villain reveal at the end was just kinda âmeh.â My familiarity with how the Pokemon games and anime handle bad guys made me sense early on that he would be the villain, but I didnât feel like it was built up too wellâŠjust boiled down to a âguess what, Iâm actually evil!â moment. But regardless, his conflict with Kokoâs father was believable, and learning about what he did in the past was pretty shocking. I guess Koko was lucky that his parents keep fire-proof baby protection containers in the car for just such emergencies! Also, while I liked seeing Zed get arrested in the movieâs epilogue, I also kind of wished they left him (to die?) hanging on that cliff in the jungle. That would have been pretty dark, lol.
-Like my prediction on who the villain would be, another thing I sensed early on was, as soon as there was mention of a spring with healing waters, I knew someone was going to die and/or be mortally wounded at some point and need to be healed in the spring. I was somewhat right, though it wasnât the water that healed Zarude Dada so much as Kokoâs powerâŠ
-âŠwhich is actually something I did not like about the movie. Itâs one thing for a human to be raised by pokemon, but being able to use a pokemonâs move? I can understand him learning pokemon language and some abilities within the limits of his human body, like climbing trees, but I draw the line at a person being able to use a pokemon attack, especially one based on elements like grass (unless said person was physically altered in some way, like having their genes spliced with those of a pokemon, but as far as we know that didnât happen to Koko). Koko using Jungle Healing stretched my suspension of belief too far, even for Pokemon, and opened up a large can of worms â so can he use other pokemon attacks if he just âbelieves enoughâ? Does simply being raised by a pokemon allow someone to use pokemon attacks? What about other pokemon-only things, like being caught in a poke-ball? It would have made more sense if the other Zarude âchanneledâ their power into him, or if Celebi came over to help (I really thought that would be the moment Celebi made its big appearance). But even though I didnât like this part of the story, it wasnât detrimental to the movie overall. Iâll just theorize that Koko unknowingly channeled the power of the healing spring and the surrounding trees to use Jungle Healing and it didnât come from his own âpower.â
-I had to laugh when I realized how unashamedly the shiny Celebi was being used to market this movie when it plays no role in the story whatsoever and has, like, less than a minute of screentime. The scene where Prof. Zed tells Ash and co. about Celebi felt out of place, like they were obligated to mention Celebi because it was part of the movieâs marketing but was never intended to play a role in the plot. After that, literally nothing about it, until it very randomly appeared for a few seconds in the epilogue, almost as an afterthought. I know this isnât the first time Pokemon movies have used specific pokemon all over their marketing while said pokemon plays a very small role in the actual movie. But with Celebi in this case, itâs like they werenât even trying to make it relevant to the plot at all, lol.
-One thing I admired about The Power of Us movie was how there were so many subplots between the different characters, and yet all were interesting and none seemed to be left out in the end. Even though this movie had fewer subplots, once again, everything got enough attention and was wrapped up nicely (must be new director Yajimaâs skills). For example, the very first scene of the movie shows the Zarude being bullies to the other pokemon. I thought that would be glossed over later as it didnât seem important to the main plot, but it was definitely brought up again and resolved in the end.
-I thought the end of the movie with Koko deciding to go on a journey to learn more about people and pokemon made sense for his character. Now that he knows heâs not a pokemon and thereâs a whole world of people and pokemon living together that he doesnât know about, heâd definitely want to be part of that. Though I think he should have an escort, at least for a while. I mean, the kid knows nothing about the human world and canât even speak their language, so going on a journey by himself seems even more risky than a normal kid in the Pokemon world. I think it would have been hilarious if there was a post-credits scene where we see Koko come back to the forest as an adult, shows a poke-ball to Zarude Dada and says, âIâm gonna catch youâŠDad!â
*END OF SPOILERS*
And that brings me back to the topic at the beginning of this post of how the newer Pokemon movies have gotten more interestingâŠtheyâve gotten more interesting because theyâve moved away from the stagnant formula that so many of the past movies have had. If you look at most of the previous Pokemon movies, they tend to follow the same formula of âAsh and friends explore a new town/area, meet a legendary pokemon, some evil doer ends up capturing/harming the legendary pokemon for some vague, selfish reason, lots of destruction ensues, then Ash and friends help save the day.â There were some slight exceptions and tweaks to this formula, but for the most part, this is how Pokemon movies were structured for years and they were getting pretty stale. I still enjoyed watching them anyway just because Iâm such a big fan of the franchise, but it pained me to know how much better they could be.
But then you have movies like this one and The Power of Us that break away from that formula and introduce new and intriguing characters and themes never explored before. Look at what a unique character like Koko is for the franchise and how much potential for refreshing stories his character could bring. A whole series about a kid who was raised by pokemon, learning about how people and pokemon interact, would be such a unique premise. And all the characters from The Power of Us were so memorable and well developed â I can hardly remember any of the cookie-cutter human characters from Pokemon movies of the past 15-20 years, but Iâll definitely remember the cast from The Power of Us and Koko. But as we all know, even 25 years later, the Pokemon anime refuses to remove Ash and Pikachu as the main characters. As I discussed in a post I wrote several years ago about why the Pokemon anime hasnât âevolved,â I think it boils down to a âif itâs not broken, donât fix itâ attitude from The Pokemon Company. Having the anime series star Ash and Pikachu with mostly light-hearted, very kid-friendly themes, has worked great for them all this time, so why risk changing that? But I think they may be slowly starting to see the potential of a more mature Pokemon anime aimed at an older audience. They started experimenting with more mature Pokemon anime variants sans Ash and friends with the 4-episode Pokemon Origins series from 2013 and Pokemon XY: Mega Evolution series from 2014/2015. Although they did end up concluding the latter within the main anime canon, the stand-alone episodes were fantastic and only made me more bitter that we didnât have a series starring these new characters with this darker tone. But I think Pokemon GO unexpectedly bursting into popularity in 2016 made The Pokemon Company realize that so many veteran Pokemon fans who are now adults still care about the franchise. Since then weâve seen a bunch of web anime series featuring characters not from the main anime and with a more mature tone, such as Pokemon Generations, Pokemon Twlight Wings, PokeToons, and the currently airing Pokemon Evolutions. While these series are nice to have, I think weâre long overdue for a full-budget, franchise-rebooting anime series with a new cast of characters and the serious tone that these web series have offered adult fans.
Itâs hard to say when or even if weâll get an overhaul of the main Pokemon anime. Even after the positive fan reaction to the Japanese subtitled viewing of the Mewtwo Strikes Back remake at Anime Expo, we still have yet to get any official Pokemon releases in Japanese for English-speaking audiences. Again, I think The Pokemon Company just doesnât want to risk spending a lot on risky changes when everything, at least in terms of the Pokemon anime, has worked fine for them for 25 years. But with positive changes to the recent Pokemon movies that I discussed in this post, as well as all the new web anime series weâve gotten, I think thereâs a chance they could lead to a new phase for the main anime as well. Unlike many other franchises, Pokemon is not defined by the story arcs of any one particular character or group of characters â its main focus is the world itself, a world of nearly 1,000 unique, loveable creatures with a multitude of ways they interact with the world and the humans around them. There is literally an endless amount of stories that could come from such a setting, so to forever keep the anime restricted to focusing on a never-aging 10 year old kid and his vaguely defined journey of becoming a âPokemon Master,â is a criminal amount of lost potential. Since Pokemon is currently the highest grossing media franchise in the world, Iâm sure its reign will surpass my lifespan, so Iâm hoping Iâll be able to see a new Pokemon anime series with new main characters and a more mature tone within my lifetime.
#pokemon#pokemon anime#pokemon movie#pokemon secrets of the jungle#pokemon the movie 23#pokemon the movie koko
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My thoughts on Episode 7--Promises Broken
Placed behind a cut for those of you that would rather escape my babbling, lol. Youâre welcome. Â
The episode opens with Maggie, Elijah, Father Gabe, and Negan. Â
Right away I canât help feeling disappointed because the emotional core of last episode (Kelly and Connieâs reunion and the aftermath) seems like itâs being ignored and punted further down the road so we can waste another hour getting piece meal progress on the Reaper front, but Iâm going to try to push my misgivings away and enjoy this episode for what it is, so. Â
âDaryl just told us to go home.â Â
And save your hides and keep the rest of the community safe? I canât argue that Negan might have an actual point here, lol. But Maggie sure can. Â
Not gonna lie. When Negan came back with âI think he was being subtle. He said they were armed with lookoutsâ I had to LOL. Â
âWe will never be even.â I mean. Maggie been frustrating me with her stubbornness in this suicide mission, true. But she right. They will never, ever be even. Â
âYaïżœïżœll know Blackbeard, too?â I admit it. I laughed. A little. Â
Okay. I donât know if this bodes well for this episode or not, but the cold opening in this episode? Was the most underwhelming cold open of this season. Â
At least the opening credits still give me that old familiar rush of the heyday of TWD. Â
Fake Stephanie and Eugene are on Walker clean up duty. Hmm. I think Iâm going to refer to Fake Stephanie as Fifi until she gets a real name for brevityâs sake. Â
Fifi handles herself surprisingly well with the Walkers. Is she one of Mercerâs stormtroopers working undercover maybe? Â
Somehow I doubt itâs true that our friends can trust âLanceâ but whatever, lol. Â
I hate to admit it but Iâm already kind of bored with this episode. Weâre barely over 6 minutes in. Â
I didnât recognize Princess without her fluffy pink coat! Â
Zeke is definitely struggling. Â
I do like that these two have been paired up. They have taken to each other quickly and already have a good rapport. Thereâs something endearing about their scenes together. Â
âNever been afraid of hard work. Kinda anti-friends who die from stubbornness.â Have I mentioned lately how much I love Princess? Because I really, really do. Â
So itâs been days. Has it been days that Maggie and Negan and Co. have been outrunning the Reapers? Iâm talking since they left the safe house. Does that mean that itâs also been days since Kelly and Connieâs reunion? This timeline is so slow and yet they keep telling us itâs been days and making me think weâve been missing time. Like I canât even. Â
You know Carolâs âPookie is in dangerâ senses have to be big-time tingling by now if itâs been DAYS. Â
Also? Alden almost certainly has to be dead. Â
But I digress. They obviously donât want us getting hung up on the apparent time warp between ASZ, Meridian, and the Commonwealth. Itâs like the Bermuda Triangle of the ZA. Â
âA person with your pedigree...â Â
Okay then. Commonwealth is full of uppity assholes. Good to know. Â
Yumiko looks classy! I say that in my best Princess voice, lol. Â
Well. At least theyâve given Daryl Dog back. Has Dog come to his senses though? That is the question. Â
Daryl sharing a smoke with the enemy to gain some intel. Or maybe just the keys to food storage. Â
So. Another redshirt (Elijahâs sisterâs friend) we donât know bites the dust. Meh. Including that tidbit in the trailer was purposefully misleading, lol. Not that I want people to die, but still. Â
âBut the one? Heâs mine.â Letâs take bets. Was it Carver Elijah has a beef with because it just seems like it was. Could also be that his name is the only one I know, lol. Â
Where is Maggie sending our hobbled Father G? Â
âI kept my mask for practical and sentimental reasons.â Negan? You almost had me. He really canât help his inherent asshole-ishness can he? Â
But seriously. Yuck at what they about to do because I assume Alpha and Co. at least cured the nasty skins. Â
I wish I could say I give a damn that theyâre attempting to give Leah some more likeable layers but itâs a cheap cheat so naw. Â
Thereâs that damn river that symbolizes the great divide between Daryl and his love and his family. At least itâs pretty. Â
Iâm with Daryl. Is Pope just looking to cleanse the earth of those he doesnât feel belong or what? Wheedle the truth out of her, Daryl. Â
âYou never needed anyone to make you strong.â Â
Think our guy has ever said this to his real girl? Â
Itâs kinda funny that the Whisperer flunkie is now the herding Whisperer tutor. Â
Is that the Reaperâs version of a priest? Sorry. I swear. Iâve been trying to pay attention during their scenes. But my mind wanders because it feels like Woodbury and the Sanctuary all over again. The Whisperers at least were elevated by Samantha Morton, Ryan Hurst, Thora Birch, and yes, Jeffrey Dean Morgan. Like I love Norman Reedus and the character heâs crafted in Daryl but heâs not enough to have me enthralled with Leah and these dudes. I donât care if they were all Calendar pinups before the ZA. Â
Truly. A+ casting with Yumikoâs brother. Â
Yeah. Somethingâs definitely fishy about Tomiâs reluctance to go back to his old life in the Commonwealth, but the desire for a slower, less stressful existence is definitely relatable so Iâm not going to hold that part against him at all. Â
What did Maggie say after Elijah asked if Negan had changed? Because I replayed it a handful of times and still donât know. Â
This Lancy Hornsby dude reeks of slimy politician. Â
Too much one on one Daryl and Leah in this episode. Without any kind of chemistry at least these two drag each other and their parts of the episode down. Leahâs character is a fail for me and it has nothing to do with shipping reasons. Sheâs just not believable or authentic to her role as a mercenary. Â
âIf I could do it all over again, Iâd have killed every single one of you.â Damn. Well. Heâs being true to himself, I guess. Unapologetically Negan. Â
Again. I canât say Neganâs wrong exactly but shit does he deliver some uncomfortable truths. Â
Princessâs childlike delight over treats is <3. Â
Look at Eugene running toward danger! OG Eugene would never. Abe would be so proud. Â
Eugene and Fifi actually work pretty good together but it all feels so staged. I feel sorry for our guy. Â
âThis guy was being, well, an asshole.â LMAO @ Joshâs delivery. The asshole definitely deserved that punch and his date deserved to be eaten. Â
Real Stephanie is so pretty. Â
Aww. Sheâs concerned about Eugene. Â
Oh shit. Eugene punched Pamela Miltonâs little entitled prick of a son. This feels like the ASZ Monroes all over again. Sorry. I canât remember their names. Â
Poor Eugene. Have I said that already? Â
Is this Lance Hornsby guy the lesser of two evils or...â Â
All the chances youâve gotten, hmm? Seems to me theyâve been set up for some failure too, though. Â
Maggie and Negan leading a herd where? Meridian? Â
That poor woman. Just wanting her family safe and spared of seeing her meet her maker. Â
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So Leahâs not completely cold. Okay. Doesnât mean sheâs able to be saved though. Â
At this point, Kang is just yanking Darylâs chain and ours in the process. Â
Even hidden behind that skin mask, Elijah made me tear up when he saw his sister. Â
No previews? What a copout. Â
Not Kang correlating Maggie and Negan to child and coach, lol. Â
The narrative they keep pushing about the villains having families and FEELINGS doesnât change much for me, Angela. Gracie was the only innocent in that outpost Team Family attacked. Iâm not saying they should have done it but stop trying to make the bad guys sympathetic. It isnât earned. Â
Interesting how she mentions Gabe is trying so very hard to hold onto faith. Â
If Leahâs the frog boiling in that pot? They better be serving frog legs to the starving community sheâs hunting. Just saying. Â
Overall impression of this episode? Â
It was boring. No seriously. Â
I wish I could say I liked it better but it was just meh. I canât even muster up any words because I just feel blah about it and thatâs not a good feeling to have going into the first final (mid? half? tri? I donât know what to call it) episode of the season. Â
Withholding the previews further adds to the doldrums because what is there to actually be excited about here after that episode? At least try to pique our interest, Angela. Â
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Who will be the next Hawk Moth?
Alright, well thereâs a lot of different theories on who will be âthe next Hawk Mothâ. So I wanted to do a break down on some possibilities (warning: this analysis is REALLY long lol)
Lila
I feel like Lila is very likely to be the next one. She already has a leg up in working with Gabriel (despite not knowing heâs Hawk Moth).
Even though Hawk Moth hasnât reached his goal of getting Ladybug and Cat Noirâs miraculouses, heâs made good progress. With Lilaâs help, heâs gotten PRETTY damn close to getting them since she has that deep hatred of Ladybug. Without her, he wouldnât have had his invasion of scarlet moths possessing Paris.
Additionally, Lila is pretty full of herself and does just about everything for her own benefit. She could easily grow a bigger hatred towards Ladybug and find out about the benefits of their miraculouses to have her own wish granted.
Itâs really difficult to see her as a redeemable character since she has yet to show any redeemable qualities. But, hey, maybe there will be a plot twist where sheâll change her ways.
Chloe
As much as Iâd LOVE to see Chloe develop into a better person since we see she is the way she is, I donât have too much faith in Thomas Astrucâs writing.
Thomas initially started Chloe off as the annoying and conceited bully, then she started seeing the error of her ways, and finally...she was pulled back to square one.
Itâs obvious that Chloe is pretty strong. She knows Hawk Moth is evil and has fought off an akuma even when she was super angry with Ladybug. However, Hawk Moth IS a rather powerful man and was able to akumatize Chloe on many occasions. She became his most successful akumatized victim as Miracle Queen. I feel like the fandom doesnât talk enough about how Chloe managed to get almost ALL the miraculous holders to reveal their identities. (Donât come for Hawk Moth in saying he hasnât made a lot of progress - he HAS.)
The main issue with Chloe is that she can easily be manipulated into doing things for Hawk Moth because she has that disliking for Ladybug, deep down. She doesnât want to hate Ladybug but obviously itâs been tough since she wonât let Chloe have her bee miraculous, and being Queen Bee is very important to her. Chloe wants to be powerful and heroic to feel good about herself since her mom doesnât see her as something special (which is awful, I feel so bad for Chloe, honestly.)
Even though the likelihood is there, I really donât want Chloe to become the next Hawk Moth. In season 4, itâd be nice to see some of her character development come back, and hopefully her and her mom build a stronger relationship now that Audrey has decided to stay in Paris with the family. Thomas Astruc needs to make Chloe better but KEEP it that way. Sheâs shown redeemable qualities and we know why she acts the way that she does. Thereâs a ridiculous amount of potential for her to be a wonderful, well-rounded character instead of just the evil bully Thomas makes her out to be.
Felix
So far, weâve only seen Felix in one episode, but we already have a good idea of what heâs like. Heâs very manipulative as a form of coping with his fatherâs death.
Felix already has a bit of a vendetta against Gabriel for keeping Emilieâs family heirlooms, and managed to steal them from Gabriel. He also wasnât very nice to Adrien in pretending to be him and attempting to hurt his friendships. All of those things Felix did just prove heâd make a *good* villain.
My theory is that heâll come back for at least one more episode, since he took the wedding rings that were very precious to Gabriel. However, itâs kind of strange to me that Felix hasnât even been mentioned since his debut episode. So, we will see if this devilish boy makes a comeback.
Adrien
People have had this theory a while back, but itâs just incredibly unlikely at this point.
Adrien cares deeply about his mom and wants her back, of course. However, we see in Cat Blanc that he tried to cataclysm his own father for what heâs done. He was so hurt by his fatherâs motives, he triggered the end of the world.
There could potentially be an episode where Adrien hears his father out and tries the butterfly miraculous out for himself, but Bunnyx would come out of her burrow and shut that shit down.
OR, we know Gabriel is an awful father and he could somehow manipulate his own son to take his spot as Hawk Moth. (But again, Bunnyx could easily shut this down, too.)
Adrien loves being Cat Noir; heâs shown to be the Cat Noir in the future. He has an extremely good heart. So theyâve pretty much denied Adrien becoming the new Hawk Moth, at this point.
Luka
I think this is the most interesting idea Iâve seen on who the next Hawk Moth will be. (I recommend watching Cat Blanc x Princess Justiceâs YouTube video analysis on this. Itâs really good! I mention some of her points in here.)
Luka is almost too nice of a character. He cares a lot about other people and just sort of lets Marinette take advantage of his kindness, which is really sad, BUT there could easily be a motive we donât know behind that, or heâs secretly bothered by it deep down.
Thereâs that theory that Luka knows Marinette is Ladybug. He could be trying to get closer to her to take the miraculous from her since he might know the power the ladybug and black cat miraculous hold.
Or, like I mentioned before, if Luka is bothered deep down by Marinetteâs romantic feelings for Adrien, there could be something that happens that pushes him over the edge. Weâve even seen that Luka makes a terrifying villain as Silencer. He was super manipulative and had a lot of good tactics. Ladybug and Cat Noir DID in fact have a really hard time fighting him. Luka is also not the type of person to get angry like that, but Hawk Moth needs STRONG emotion to feed off of. So, considering how powerful of a villain Luka was, thereâs clearly some anger boiling within him.
We also donât have that much of a backstory to work off of. Weâre slowly learning more, but think about it, for instance, we donât know who his father is. Some people have theorized itâs Jagged Stone but weâre REALLY not sure. So, maybe itâs a motive of his to find his father.
Thomas Astruc made Luka a very likable character, enough so to get most of the fandom to actually like the Lukanette ship. Luka could have been made purposely likable so that the fandom wonât believe that he will be the next villain.
Another good point Cat Blanc x Princess Justice had made was that Miraculous World made a tweet that Miraculous will be introducing a new villain in season 4 - but itâs a character we already know. Lila and Felix are already known BUT theyâre also already well-established villains....
Kagami
If Luka is a possibility, so is Kagami. Half the fandom thinks Kagami is great, the other half thinks sheâs awful.
Kagami is shown to have a very strong personality (that sometimes comes off as a bit threatening). Sheâs very blunt about everything, very uptight, doesnât beat around the bush. Those three characteristics are similar to Gabriel, HOWEVER Kagami has a caring soul and she really wants to be good to Adrien and Marinette.
So, itâs possible, but unlikely and definitely hard to pinpoint what intentions she could possibly have of becoming a villain. Maybe her mother pinches a certain nerve, or she canât understand why Adrien doesnât love her.
Additionally, Thomas Astruc doesnât cut Adrien a lot of slack, letâs be real here. Adrienâs father is already Hawk Moth, he could switch it to his âgirlfriendâ being Hawk Moth.
Alya
So, I have a bit of an interesting theory on this since I havenât really seen anyone else mention anything about Alya potentially becoming bad.
Despite Alya/Rena Rouge having a strong bond and trust with Ladybug, thereâs that possibility she still wants to unveil who Ladybug really is - she still runs The Ladyblog, after all. And of course, unveiling Ladybugâs identity is extremely dangerous. She even posted the museum exhibit to her blog in Feast, which she didnât realize was dangerous. It shows that she might slip and reveal something that she shouldnât have.
Or, maybe Alya manages to lose Ladybugâs trust. Something monumental could happen. Thereâs already that bit of danger surrounding Ladybug and Rena Rouge since theyâre such close friends in real life and know nearly everything about each other.
Hawk Moth also now knows that Alya is Rena, and could do something to push her to reveal something on The Ladyblog, therefore turning her into a villain.
Also, Alya already knows SO much of the Ladybug lore. Sheâs dedicated so much time to researching the lore behind the miraculouses. Also pretty dangerous and suspicious.
Nino
Like Alya, thereâs a chance Nino also loses Ladybug and/or Cat Noirâs trust. When Nino first got his miraculous, he wasnât very good at acting like a different person in his superhero persona. He could easily slip and reveal an something he isnât supposed to.
He is the least likely possibility, but not completely impossible.
Tom or Sabine
I put these two in the same excerpt because they have about the same amount of likeliness to be the next Hawk Moth (or maybe one is Hawk Moth and the other is Mayura đ)
Tom and Sabine are both super sweet, but also, we donât know a whole lot about them. Since Gabriel - father of sweet cinnamon roll hero Cat Noir - is Hawk Moth, whoâs to say superhero Ladybugâs own parents couldnât become evil? Itâd create a super interesting dynamic in the plot because itâs like how would Marinette react if one of her parents was Hawk Moth?
I have a stronger theory that Tom and Sabine used to be the old Ladybug and Cat Noir, but still. Donât put it past Thomas Astruc to trick us somehow.
How would Gabriel fail (or lose his miraculous)?
One last thing Iâd also like to analyze relating to this is this question.
Does Gabriel NOT end up ever getting Ladybug and Cat Noirâs miraculouses? Letâs look over some possibilities:
1) One of the villains he creates or senti-monsters Nathalie creates becomes too powerful and doesnât give him the miraculouses once theyâre captured.
2) He gives up and realizes all he needs is his dearest son Adrien.
3) He gets sickly and canât fight anymore and passes on his miraculous for someone else to do the job.
4) Simplest answer: His miraculous is stolen.
#miraculous ladybug#tales of ladybug and cat noir#miraculers#miraculous#hawk moth#hawkmoth#gabriel agreste#lila rossi#adrien agreste#luka couffaine#alya cesaire#nino lahiffe#miraculous kagami#kagami tsurugi
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thank god im not the only other asian girl who came to realize how weirdly orientalist atla/lok is.
i hope you donât mind me using this ask as a springboard to get some of my thoughts down (i edited this once and that fucked up the read more, so i tried several times to put this behind a cut again but tumblr hates me so i guess now everyone has to read my beef ÂŻ\_(ă)_/ÂŻ)
my friend said last night that ATLA is like the new harry potter with the way people talk about it and..... yknow sheâs not entirely wrong.....
like, not to keep pulling this card, but ~as a half-asian~, i have been struggling with this show a lot over the past few months; before even the show came to netflix, i was seeing a resurgence of ATLA stan culture. the hype of the live-action series and the release of the kyoshi novels have also amplified this. i reblog posts because i do still enjoy it, but i have been abstaining from reblogging commentary that so obviously glorifies it.
part of this burst-bubble effect is my problem, because i strongly dislike how people talk about certain characters and ships (and i admit that frustration is seeping through what ATLA did right) and observing fandom favorites makes me think that a lot of points were missed: people love toph, but hate korra (even people who think they love korra only because sheâs one half of korrasami, actually do hate korra lmfao); people love zuko but completely ignore aang; donât get me started on the fandomâs embracing of korrasami/subsequent forgiving of the patronizing, disrespectful, borderline racist way bryke did it. that is fan behavior, and it all bothers me and is no doubt coloring my judgment of the actual show, but beyond that, i also do want people to realize and accept âwait a minute, plenty of the things we criticize other media for also exist in ATLA, and it shouldnât be different just because this show is full of asians.â
part of me wants to â and does â celebrate that a pan-asian show, in which NO white characters and NO trace of western culture exists, was a critical and commercial success in 2005! and had full network support and resonated with kids of different backgrounds. i can appreciate and be happy of that. but âno western cultureâ doesnât mean âno western influenceâ: itâs an asian fantasy world created by non-asians, so the staff still ultimately wrote a pretty western story. the treatment of the fire lord imperialist dynasty is the big one (iroh was a war criminal who only left the warfront because his actions affected him/his family but now heâs a old friendly Good Guy and never acknowledges the lives heâs ruined! everything is ok now that zuko is fire lord! not like his new friends will have any direct trauma or conflicting feelings with how he is now heading a nation that burned two out of three of their homelands to the ground and tried to burn the third too! now here are all our headcanons about katara/sokka being fire lord/lady, toph being a fire lord advisor, and aang being an air nation rep to the fire nation! perfect ending!!), but also the themes of a pretty straightforward good kids v evil conqueror story, watered-down concepts of buddhism/taoism/others for child consumption â some of these are not strictly bad things, but they donât make it the best story in the world. they are not worth saying âstop watching x problematic cartoon, watch ATLA, the BEST cartoon with the BEST diversity!!!!â
side note, my friend looked it up last night and there was a total of one asian writer on the staff, May Chan, who according to wiki, just wrote the Boiling Rock episodes. (at this juncture i want to keep in mind that someone in the writerâs or developerâs room might be in my situation, possibly mixed race but white-passing in both face and name... itâd be hypocritical of me to not consider that possibility, but as far as i know thatâs not the case, and in any respect i think itâs important to have visible diversity, not because i think mixed people donât have anything to say or shouldnât be counted, but in the sense that poc who donât get the luxury of being white-passing should be allowed control of depicting people who look like them. but thatâs another discussion.)
honestly, i can look over some aspects of this show because i still do enjoy it. i like the use of martial arts as a fantastical magic device because it was used consistently and clearly they did their research, even if it does kind represent this idea of Asia, the Land of Magic Powers; i donât mind because not everyone has the magic powers, the magic powers are deconstructed, people without the magic powers are still treated respectfully, the magic powers are diverse, and they are treated both practically and spiritually (so not everyone, like sokka, has the same awe-inspiring respect of them, which is realistic characterization to this world, and though heâs sometimes portrayed as incorrect in his disbelief of the spiritual, heâs never portrayed as wrong for being practical and realistic). honestly, i donât mind the oohs and aahs of these magic powers because i still think the magic powers are pretty fuckin cool; itâs likely weâve all pretended to be a bender at some point lol. and as a kid, i didnât mind that ATLA nations blended cultures; i thought it was fun to look up later and see which sorts of things were made up and which were influenced by real things (i liked that not a lot if it was made up). i donât mind that Lake Laogai was named after a real, horrifying place, though i understand and completely respect that plenty of others find the name disturbing and tasteless.
that said, as an adult coming to ATLA for the first time, I would probably not go this hard for a show that blends a bunch of real ethnicities together in a hodgepodge of culture clashes, at least not one spearheaded by a white developer team. i would be less willing to ignore the northern air temple episode, where aang, victim of a genocide, forgives a bunch of strangers who disrespected and destroyed his home (including the guy who was NOW INVENTING WAR WEAPONS FOR THE VERY NATION THAT DESTROYED HIS PEOPLE). i can mostly look over these things because of nostalgia. but the way people outright stan the whole avatar series (including LOK but i wonât get into that right now) without acknowledging ATLA is, ultimately, still a story with a pretty western handling of its themes just with asian faces, is..... frustrating.
a new coworker of mine, also an asian woman who was too old to watch ATLA at the time it was airing, has said that the more she learns about ATLA as an adult the weirder she feels about it and less inclined she is to watch it, which makes me think that maybe iâm not crazy.
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Alright and now for episode 23! Which was a lot more interesting. Still lacking in pertinent ways but at least it got some stuff moving, and there were a few small but very nice character moments.
I took a LOT of Taichi spam this week you guys. The animation was slightly better than normal and my boy was just so good.
At parkour. Heâs good at parkour.
More below!
We pick up where we left off last week, with Devimon arriving in his true form and picking a fight over Poyomon. Heâs so threatened by a wad of jelly.
He does seem a bit weird though. More on that later.
The quintessential Taichi picture.
And just a cute one.
So okay, Devimon makes mincemeat of MetalGreymon and WereGarurumon. Like he wipes the floor with them. Even though they should be a level above him. I was like whatâs going on. Clearly dark powers are giving him extra strength, but this still seemed like too much...
Yamato yells for Takeru to go hide. Taichi then yells for Yamato to go hide xD However Devimon has no trouble destroying all their possible hiding spots and attacking them.
Takeru worries about his brother :â<
Taichi quickly tries to think of a strategy but yup âHideâ is all he can come up with.
They communicate via digivice and Yamato has something of a better strategy but... it still just amounts to hiding.
Meanwhile their partners continue to get their butts kicked.
MetalGreymon: Hey watch it I just got this painted!
WereGaurumon: My nails! I just had them done!
Taichi: Would you two stop fussing, youâre so vain!
Taichi: Weâve got more important things to worry about! Like my hair!
Meanwhile in the real world... the four are together and Koushirou updates Jou and Mimi on the situation, which boils down to Not Good. The tank ships are still on a collision course. On top of that, Koushirou notices that the data being absorbed by Calmaramonâs... idk what to call it, data collection tower? thing, is being sent directly to the digital world. He guesses itâs going to be used to power the creature whose name I forgot they fought before.
This guy.
Koushirou also guesses this probably means Taichi and Yamato are in some deep shit rn.
Taichi is pretty smart too... heâs able to tell that Devimon is able to manipulate the dark mists and thatâs how heâs able to find their hiding spots and attack them so easily.
Hereâs the evil crystal that I would have thought was from Sailor Moon. Ahhh evil is so beautiful. And purple. Hmmm, the Crest of Knowledge is also purple, and absorption of data is converted to power.... GUYS KOUSHIROUâS GOING TO GO DARK.
Kidding, kidding. I would totally watch it though.
So the others go to fight Calmaramon and destroy the tower to help Taichi and Yamato. But, uh, they didnât count on Calamaramonâs tentaclesx ;D
Kabuterimon makes the classic amateur mistake of DRAMATICALLY ANNOUNCING HIMSELF when he swerves in to rescue the girls...
... and he gets his just desserts. :P
Meanwhile Taichi and Yamato... are still losing. So who steps up to the plate but...
Takeru and Poyomon! Lol!
No seriously, this scene SCREAMED of the one in 99 where Hikari sacrifices herself to protect Yamato and Sora. I was really expecting Takeru to do the same thing here. âLeave my brother alone! Take me instead!â
But, I guess, since heâs a boy, heâs less self-sacrificial and more just... irrationally strong...
His conviction results in evolution!
Poyomon becomes Tokomon! THANK GOODNESS. I could not handle another âpoyo, poyo!â
Devimon takes one look at this pink-cheeked thing and FREEEEEEAKS OUUUUUT.
âYou remind me... of someone I once knew... you have... the same eyes... GRRRRRRRRR!!!!â
he didnât say that but he totally should have lol. Now someone please make an edit of Angemon where he takes off his helmet and he has Tokomon eyes underneath xâD
Data readings on Koushirouâs computer start going haywire! The data is being sent somewhere fast!
I was expecting some kind of power up but I wasnât expecting full on evolution. Because yup. Thatâs what goes down. Devimon evolves.
And hereâs where he gets weird. His evolution seems painful. Unnatural. He doesnât seem exactly pleased with it, to be frank. Heâs really agitated by Tokomon but he doesnât do much in the way of monologuing and itâs not even clear that the evolution is by his own design. It just kind of seems to happen. Then, once he does evolve, heâs much less talkative. This is generally not the sign of sanity or even sentience. Itâs like Devimon is imprisoned by his evolution, which goes on a rampage.
Neodevimon. Actually, original Devimon is scarier but :P
Lol and then Tokomon gets blown out of Takeruâs arms and goes for a tumble while Takeru runs frantically after him xD Great moment.
Rollin rollin rollin, though the streams are swollen...
NeoDevimon is very powerful but yâknow... WereGarurumon just STOOD there. This... this is totally his fault that he gets hurt here xâD
Taichi is displeased with this development, and yet, still cute in his displeasure.
Finally Koushirou manages to get through! Taichi is too preoccupied to jump for joy or anything but you can see that heâs excited. âKoushirouuuuu please save us!!!â basically thatâs whatâs going on
However heâs right away blown over and his digivice scatters and the signal drops...
Yamato is very Stressed.
However, contact with Koushirou has rejuvenated Taichi.
LIKE THE PHOENIX HE RISES FROM THE ASHES
Taichi: âFUCK THIS SHIIIIIIIIIT!â
His renewed conviction becomes power. Yeah, thatâs a thing, we know.
Meanwhile, in the human world, the others have worked out that Taichi and Yamato are fighting and need help, and they combine the powers of their own passionate hearts in a classic shonen anime trope.
Koushirou gets a special moment all to himself! Itâs really fast but still, the episode makes a point of focusing on Koushirouâs desire to connect with his friends and help them. I choose to believe this a nod to Koushirouâs significant role in the show and a way of saying âSorry theyâre not all together right now but they will be soon and characters other than Taichi and Yamato will get to do cool things in the not so distant future!â
Their partners are then able to defeat Calmaramon and destroy the data collection tower.
BOOM, baby.
Meanwhile our heroes who never sleep manage to defeat Devimon. Which, I figured, meant heâd retreat for now, but...
He freaking dies! Yup, thatâs right! Disintegrates!! I was like what the heck?? This was a Boss Battle???? It had none of the signs of being a boss battle other than the boss being present and it wasnât even that hard...
However, itâs not over till itâs over...
... Tokomon looks on NeoDevimonâs death kind of creepily. Like, the episode makes a point of showing us Tokomonâs reaction, not just the groupâs. So... I feel like this is gonna be relevant. I COULD BE WRONG. But I just personally wouldnât stick this bit in without it meaning something. But that something could be pretty much anything so we still donât know much.
The sailors aboard the tankers whose control systems are restored at the last second are pretty darn relieved anyway.
This was my favorite moment in epiosde, Mimi flinging herself over Koushirou and knocking Jou out of the way to hug Sora in her enthusiasm over their victory xD awww Mimi
Yamato wants to know whatâs with Taichi. Taichiâs like, âThe others helped us from afar, I just know it...â AND THATâS WHY HEâS BEST BOY.
Yamato gives Takeru an adorable pat on the head and tells him good job. Only thing that could have made this moment cuter would have been if he also patted Tokomonâs head. BECAUSE HELLO. KID JUST EVOLVED. SAY HI AND TELL HIM YOUR NAMES AT LEAST.
But then! Darknightmon uses the dark crystal thingy and...!
Le gasp! NeoDevimonâs corpse emerges from the ground...
Taichi has a flashback to another time they thought they won only for their defeated opponent to be infused with dark energy and resurrect...
... uh I forgot this guyâs name too >_>
Taichi: âWow I never saw this coming!â
Well, I did. :P Due to being over ten years old...
We end with NeoDevimonâs mask cracking off!
Creepy!
Final thoughts... it now kind of looks like Darknightmon is the one pulling Devimonâs strings rather than the other way around. But my guess is thatâs not the case. It could also be that Devimon told Darknightmon to do this - after all, Devimon used the stoneâs power to evolve Darknightmon before, and this is just the reverse of that. Or it could be they are equals and in cahoots with each other. I definitely think thereâs an even greater, bigger Bad out there that they either work for or are afraid of etc something like that, I think we probably all feel sure of that at least. But Devimon in this episode really surprised me in the ways he seems to lack agency. He seemed like a pawn of evil rather than the chessmaster himself.
So next week! Looks lit!
Devimonâs new evolution? or power up? whatever is creepier than NeoDevimon so thatâs a relief.
BUT THIS IS EVEN CREEPIER HOLY CRAP TAICHI! Get some sleep, your eyes are all red! (And heâs injured. His hand is where he got hurt two weeks ago fighting Splashmon right? He got hit with miasma. I wonder if this is the same wound and if itâs somehow controlling him due to the dark energy getting into his system... But everyoneâs more or less been hit with the dark energy at this point so maybe not. Anyway, CREEPY EYES, CREEPY CREEPY EYES.)
Also Yamato DIES. He DIES yâall. *funeral march plays* Hmm, Tokomon looks hungry...
Then we got this bit which in case you canât tell is Takeru being awesome. So I figured, ahh, THIS is the boss battle, and weâre gonna see Angemon again already... weird as that sounds :P
HOW-E-VER
We also get this???? Taichi silhouetted against a brilliant light????? What does it mean? I mean we know Takeru has healing powers so Iâm fully expecting that to happen but uhh are we also going to canonize Taichi next week? lol. Saint Taichi. I love him the best but I will be a bit miffed if next week IS the big boss battle and Takeruâs role is âpower up Taichi so he can kill itâ and thatâs it... But I guess weâll have to see.
It does rather look like they saved the animation budget for next week, the preview was nuts xâD Canât wait.
#digimon adventure:#digimon adventure 2020#digimon adventure reboot#fizz watches digimon 2020#digimon
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Menajerimi Ara Episode 10- A Few Thoughts (Or A Rant)
Okay, so I've been watching Menajerimi Ara for a few weeks and the reaction to the last episode was what made my feelings boil over and finally forced me to voice my thoughts. I was taking numerous notes while watching which were mostly me fangirling over Dicle and Feris but I hope I sound coherent.
I'd like to start off with how much I adore Dicle. I have loved many female characters over the years (e.g recently Eda and Ceren, of Sen Ăal Kapımı) but Dicle is the one I relate most to. It was her character that drew me into the story and kept me hooked. I love that she's sensitive, expressive, hardworking, quietly confident yet humble. She cries but she keeps powering through. I absolutely adore her and just want to follow her story to see her succeeding and being happy.
Rating War and Social Media
The reason that really made me write was the brief snippet I got into the fandom's reaction while going through twitter to follow the live translation. I very rarely go to twitter for fan discourse because it's too fast and crazy for my taste.
While I am glad that the day change grabbed ratings and the social media fandom is crucial in getting their views heard and making the hashtags trend, I was genuinely surprised by the few tweets I passed over regarding Emir's introduction and how the tracks were being written.
I completely agree that the writing did seem contrary at times to me. The characters seemed to be taking inconsistent decisions on the whim of the writer just to cause drama. Also, the it was more focused on the personal lives of the managers rather than the industry drama.
All of this just reinforced the reactive and extremely volatile nature of the Turkish TV Industry and the instant lashing. But it made me realise how rigid we as an audience have become.
People arguing that they want the original writing and arcs, and especially "Dicbar", while at the same time arguing that the real reason they're watching is not for the romance but the industry behind the scenes.
This was particularly reflected in the reading of Emir's character and twisting his actions - partly by the writer because he was introduced entirely as part of a triangle- to make him out to be a controlling person who will prove to be an abusive partner. I mean the reach. It leached all joy out of watching for me.
I dearly hope the writer does NOT take this direction and turn him into a psychopath or a typical antagonist down the road.
Viewing Experience
@howaboutbucky writes AMAZING reviews of the episodes and I wait eagerly for her insights each week. In her last one regarding Episode 9, she hit the nail on the head again. *chef's kiss*
I'd like to build upon what she mentioned regarding MA going the dark path of only trying to bank on woman on woman hate and tension by writing Gulin and especially Beren as they have been doing. I think Dizis suffer the same issue that romance novels in general do. The primary audience is women and it invites alot of scrutiny of women's actions by women themselves. Everything is nitpicked.
What truly angers me though is that even here if men are secondary characters or evil or have no growth arc they are still given a free pass to dwell in more shades of grey than female characters ever do. Because the writers are busy writing cliche tracks and we as an audience are busy picking it apart while male characters get to enjoy even the benefits of being ignored.
Dicle and Selflessness
As I said, Dicle has been my absolute favourite character and I loved that they had managed to balance this quality so far. However, I feel like she is going to fall victim to the 'melek gibi' leads that usually populate dizis. Her selflessness was bordering on stupidity in this episode. I liked how her honesty and goodness was shown as positive in the Burcin episode while in the first one her good intentions with Tuba backfired. How she was going to give up her job to make Kyrach's life easier but then decided that she wouldn't. I loved that she referred to "becoming a little shark" at that point as Kyrach had predicted. I wish the show would keep this balance and show Dicle's greatest strength is her greatest weakness and how she struggles to retain her integrity in the industry. That is what made me emotional.
In this episode, it didn't make me feel, her "selfless" decisions made me mad. What put me off even further was how everyone kept lauding her selflessness, as if the audience would'nt have caught on had not every character bashed us over the head with it. It was as bad as everyone apologising to Beren.
I actually would've like if they portrayed how Dicle's decisions were actually mostly selfish. Who is she to tell BarÄ±Ć to go make up with Beren? As a friend, that is overstepping a line. Her asking Kyrach to make sure Beren was not fired was a way to make herself not feel guilty.
The only time I thought Dicle was being herself was when she balked after finding out Feris had brought her to set to be apologised to. Dicle HAS been established as wanting to avoid conflict since the start. Emir was right on about that.
BarıĆ
Honestly, I wish they'd give us more insight into BarÄ±Ć career, have him do fun friend things with Dicle or just not show him atall and we'll assume he's off with Beren or his friends or whatever. To have him just stand around and be jealous is agonising. @likeablehades and @nawaazishein did a wonderful post about BarÄ±Ć recently. I loved his character since the start, not to ship but just to follow his growth.
Emir
Right off the bat, Emir was written to be the complete opposite of BarÄ±Ć in his mannerisms, in everyway. And you know what? I liked it. I was excited by it. We were going to see another younger actor's experience close up, who was confident and comfortable with his stardom.
I wanted to find out his backstory and what kind of struggles he might face. I sincerely hope that we get to know him more not just in a love triangle but as having a growth arc of his own. I think just using him as a triangle is a reductive reading of his character by the writer. (and the audience)
I love that he's slightly icy yet straightforward. He seems mature and not emotionally constipated??
I'm sincerely hoping we get to delve more into his character and see how his and Dicle's arcs intertwine.
Parallels
I'd like to mention BarÄ±Ć and how he shows emotion. He has said himself that a scream builds inside him. It's interesting how he initially comes off as impulsive yet on closer examination he actually refrains from reacting right away most of the time, especially with Dicle and what we see is him hitting breaking point due to repressed feelings and then taking rash decisions.
In a way I find him similar to Dicle that he avoids confrontation, especially romantic, unless pushed hard. Throughout BarÄ±Ć doesnot show his emotions in the moment. He only broke up with Beren through a scene they were doing.
Perhaps it's a side effect of being an actor. He takes his craft seriously; analysing a scene, understanding a character and then embodying the emotion that fits. I think it carries over to him receding into an observer role in key situations (such as with Dicle on the terrace in Ep 10) and trying to decide the perfect response.
Another thing is how Dicle and Emir parallels Dicle and BarıĆ; thete is a role reversal for Dicle.
I think we tend to get too attached to the first love interest. Personally, I'd love it if BarÄ±Ć and Dicle actually became great friends. (although a waste of chemistry :"( )
From the start, Dicle went into that relationship expecting something romantic and I never felt that she was equal. Whereas with Emir she has always been professional. Dicle doesn't avoid confrontation with Emir ever since he openly pointed out he was testing her. She never gives under pressure.
With no expectations, it feels more of an equal push and pull in their interactions even if they are not romantic.
Some random thoughts I had while watching:
- Dicle looks FIRE in all her scenes. đđđâ€â€â€â€
-Emir is so firmly in the clientzone lol.
- So Dicle is 22, Emir is 28. How old is BarıĆ?
-I love the head wagging Chynar does everytime he's happy and something has been accomplished!!! (at Dicle after she told Burcin the truth and at Kyrach when he told him about Buse being hired.)
-I do womder why BarÄ±Ć doesn't have any friends? :"(
-Aah Feris ahh canim benim.
- I wish we'd get to see small snippets of Dicle talk to her mother more. Not only when she has a problem. I'd love to see what she says to Leyla about her work mom.
-"Other girls might like it." I don't understand why we have to put down other girls in order to be considered strong.
- Julide serving looks!!
- Honestly why is BarÄ±Ć with Beren?????
He has no interest. None of the younger people are in love in this show, it's just infatuation. Beren and Dicle's with BarıĆ.
- Ugghh Deniz Can AktaĆ âĄâĄâĄ That head movement he does as BarıĆ. And the smile. I adore.
- Meral suggesting a BECHAMEL BOOK LMAAOO
-Is "you didn't answer my question" going to be Emir and Dicle's "phrase"?
I love that she's buying a cookbook aaah!!
- And most importantly- WHO IS LEAKING INFORMATION??!!!!!
I can't shake the feeling that it is Gulin.
#menajerimi ara#dicle#barıĆ#baris#emir#BarÄ±Ć Havas#Rant#analysis#mini lb#feris#chinar#kyrach#thoughts
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letâs talk about the themes of the Sly games
Sly Cooper and the Thievius Raccoonus (2002):
Paris: this might not be the gameâs main theme but itâs the theme that is most omnipresent. Paris is the glue that connects everything together. it immediately has such an impact on the player, even though itâs just the tutorial and the gangâs base of operations. Sly being a thief but also living in Paris just sounds so right, like itâs the way it should be. it fits.Â
The Thievius Raccoonus: this is the main theme and what provides the game with its premise. itâs the book that needs to be glued back together and its importance is highlighted throughout. almost every level has a page included so weâre constantly reminded of its significance. the skills we earn by retrieving the main ancestorsâ pages elevate the gameplay and force the player to respect it. other than that itâs a clever way to spotlight the ancestors and establish that Sly does come from a long line of thieves.
Family: this doesnât need much explaining but iâll do it anyway. we start off with Slyâs parents getting killed and him landing at an orphanage where he creates a new family for himself with Bentley and Murray. youâve got 3 different types of family: (A) Connor and Slyâs mom getting murdered and Slyâs aim to avenge them, (B) Bentley and Murray being true brothers when Sly was left with no one (iâm tearing up), and (C) the ancestors, which are explored more in-depth through the theme of The Thievius Raccoonus. Family as a theme explores Slyâs motivations and drive, even though Connorâs role is minor, especially in comparison to his role in Sly 3
Morality: Sly 1 is rudimental in its gameplay. it was a little game with a big promise at the time it was released, hoping to serve Sony and the Playstation 2 with a worthy mascot and an even worthier title. but right off the bat the player is bombarded with a shit-ton of lore about the world Sly lives in and how he operates. we immediately find out heâs an antihero, an honourable thief who has a code of conduct. this comes into stark contrast with the gameâs villains who are basically filthy crooks. thief takes down thieves and the theme of Morality is SPâs attempt to make the player distinguish between good criminal and bad criminal. Morality as a theme is spotlighted immensely in Cold Heart of Hate when Sly saves Carmelita because he truly is the good guy, but also when itâs revealed that whatâs been keeping Clockwerk alive all these years is the lack of morals and the hatred. the game establishes Morality as the outlining theme of the entire series, placing Sly on a pedestal because heâs honourable. morals trump hatred, so fuck off Clockwerk (even though âperfection has no ageâ might be one of the coolest lines in the game lol)
Sly 2: Band of Thieves (2004):
Paris: this is the theme from the first game but on steroids. like make it x10. when you take the plot of Sly 2 and boil down to its core, it turns out to be a full-on race against time to save Paris. it provides both a nod to the first game and a sense of closure at the end: the game begins in Paris and ends in Paris. Itâs both a setting and a catalyst, and it is absolutely brilliant in the game. you spend most of the game globetrotting, away from home but as soon as you find out ClockLa is on her way to unleash her psychotic brain waves and turn the city evil, you find yourself at the edge of your seat, caring more about Paris than anything else. itâs omnipresent and powerful and i donât know why but i love it.
Spice: if you wanna be my lover. hereâs an amazing replacement for drug trafficking as a plot device in a childrenâs game: spice. the spice trail is what pushes the narrative forward but also gives the gang something to face before the pieces fall into place and the larger scale of things is revealed. before ClockLa steals the show, spice is the main antagonist in the game. it brings the villains together, leads the gang from one location to another, provides some memorable missions and obstacles (Spice in the Sky and a raged, spice-infused Murray). but itâs not to say that it fades away in the long-run. Spice is actually the subtle thread that connects the episodes together but also is significant to the final master plan of hypnotising Paris.
Deception: obvious one here. Neyla pretending to be an ally is the major example. weâve got the Contessa pretending to be loyal to Interpol, weâve got Arpeggio seemingly being the mastermind behind everything (which he kinda was until he wasnât), weâve got the whole evil plot reveal on the spice, weâve got Neyla ripping off Arpeggio on her journey to become the most well-written villain in video-game history. lots going on here. overall great theme. on a wider scale (and iâve touched on this before in some recent posts) weâve got SP deceiving the player into thinking the plot is all laid out at Rajanâs ball until it all turns to shit and nothing goes as expected. Appearance V Reality is a sub-theme that pops up when Bentley fights Jean Bison and Bison constantly underestimates Bentley until the turtle fucking blows his lights out. itâs not an instance of Deception per se, but itâs worth mentioning
The Past: Clockwerkâs return makes this a theme instead of a motif. before âsaving Parisâ becomes the main objective, itâs Slyâs determination to prevent Clockwerkâs revamping that kicks off the gameâs events. the events of Sly 1 play a pivotal role here as they lay the groundwork for the plot of Sly 2. itâs not just Sly 2: The Sequel. with its own set of characters and an intricate story it becomes its very own thing. but Clockwerk is the link that connects everything.
Morality: this one sneaks up on you in the gameâs second half and just bites you right in the ass when you least expect it. Contessa, who until her boss-fight seems to be just another selfish spider bitch witch, manifests into this advocate for Slyâs inner demons through simple dialogue. fucking brilliant. âYouâre an ignorant child playing dress-up in his fatherâs legacyâ (in my opinion, the best line in the entire series) kicks it all off. and then the theme becomes obviously present throughout. it explores the fine line that Sly walks between robin hood and scumbag thief, it shows how the villains are down-right criminals who want to benefit from their crimes, it cracks black and white into a million pieces because in a single game there are like a million layers of good and evil: Barkley at the very top as the authoritarian white, Carmelita as a sympathetic cop who tries to grasp onto her own code of ethics while occasionally running with the thieves, Sly and the gang as antiheroes, the villains as... villains, and Neyla as the embodiment of satan. itâs a scale and the game spotlights this. i had a different bullet point for Justice but i think it falls under Morality. basically, Carmelitaâs story arc in Sly 2 deals with blurring her views a bit and re-defining justice
Sly 3: Honour Among Thieves (2005):
Ancestry (Cooper Vault): this is what the game is all about, or at least the premise. after stitching the cottdamn book back together by the end of the first game, Sly 2 doesnât give any attention to the Thievius Raccoonus. in fact, Sly 2 exists on a completely different plane, using its amazing plot to elevate itself away from the lore of the first game. ancestry is rarely mentioned. flashforward to Sly 3, where SP takes us back to the mythos for a new caper involving a new reveal: the Cooper Vault. what we thought we knew about the ancestors is thrown out the window to pave the way for this mystical place where the Coopers buried their secrets and their loot. iâd like to point out that the theme of Ancestry is great and all but SP does a shitty job in spreading it throughout the game. whilst recruiting the new gang members we often forget why weâre doing so and itâs not until the last episode of the game that we get the fulfilment of the themeâs promise. itâs also worth mentioning that the theme pops up in A Cold Alliance when Tsao is comparing himself to Sly and he speaks of his ancestors but we somehow get the feeling that his ancestors were all colossal jerks like him and had absolutely 0 honour
Family: this is not the same as Ancestry. the new gang members could have very well been distant with each other if not for the adventures that made them bond. Bentleyâs fascination with the Guru, Murray being the Guruâs apprentice, Bentley falling for Penelope, Penelope and Panda King helping Murray with the van, Panda King and Sly working alongside each other to kill vampire mantises and the Crusher. these are all moments that helped sell the âgroup of thievesâ aspect of the game. but Family also explores the bond of the original trio and how, even when they face their differences (Bentley and Murray living in the shadow of Sly), they can still make it through, even stronger than before. other references here might include: Panda King and Jing King, Dimitri and the Lousteau diving legacy, Dr. M and McSweeney being Connerâs âsidekicksâ
Honour: this replaces the theme of Morality from the previous two games as the situations the characters face allude to honour (doing whatâs right for the greater good)Â rather than morality (black and white, good vs evil). what i mean by that is SP making an effort to distinguish why Sly is a different thief and ultimately an antihero. this was sorta explored in the previous games by having Sly put an end to the villainsâ various operations but the overall plot overshadowed those instances. Sly 3 on the other hand fully explores the theme of Honour by including the word in the title and having the gang save the day in every episode. stopping harm to the environment (polluting the Venice canals, destroying the Australian outback), helping Penelope come to terms with her inner demons by encouraging her to drop the facade of the Black Baron, saving Jing King from forced marriage, etc. the theme also ties into the theme of Redemption (below) but what iâd really like to point out is that Carmelita gets in on it as well. i canât think of a more honourable moment than when she finally, after 3 games, puts the petty cop bullshit aside and comes to Kaine Island with her squad to save Sly from Dr. M. she makes Slyâs battle her own and doesnât give up, showing up at the very end to save him from Dr. Mâs horrific boss-fight (ugh)
Deception: although not as major as in Sly 2, iâve said this time and time again: Flight of Fancy perfectly encapsulates the theme of Deception. Penelope dressing up as the Black Baron is not the only instance of deception. youâve got Bentley and Penelope blowing their online avatars out of proportion, youâve got Dimitri who was initially a villain finally turning sides, youâve got an episode card full of sunshine and bright blue and gold fonts for a hub thatâs all gloomy rainclouds. beyond Flight of Fancy, i can think of a few more instances: some Shakespearian shenanigans when Carmelita disguises herself as Jing King, or when the gang doesnât reveal their Dead Men Tell No Tales plan to the player and weâre left thinking that Sly is going to get eaten by sharks
Redemption (Choices): speaks for itself, really. this one ties in with Honour and is a sub-theme, maybe a motif. weâve got Murrayâs desire to redeem himself for feeling guilty over Bentleyâs accident. weâve got Dimitri and the Panda King joining the gang after previously being villains in the series, and eventually redeeming themselves through helping with the heist. weâve got Penelope redeeming herself as the Black Baron by joining the gang. i also named it Choices because these characters chose to redeem themselves. Choices are all over the game, whether its the lack of free will or the sacrifice characters make: Jing King isnât in a position to choose whether or not she gets married during her capture, Sly sacrifices his cane at the very beginning of the game to save Bentley and then jumps in front of Dr. Mâs shot to save Carmelita (!!!)
Closure: or the lack of, smh. SPâs trilogy comes to a close and therefore the theme has to exist even if the game doesnât provide the player with mass satisfaction. Sly finally gets together with Carmelita, Bentley finally gets over his fear and self-doubt and lives the good life (with Penelope), Murray kicks off his racing career, and we get happy-ever-afters for the rest of the gang as well
#ya boi is FAMISHED#this beats any sly essay i've ever written#i'm exhausted bye#sly cooper#sly MF COOPER BITCHES
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Have you seen Rise of Skywalker yet? Im looking forward to your opinions!
I did! Thanks for your interest haha. I just wanna quickly preface this by saying that I know that SW is very polarizing and that the fandom can be very toxic, people are passionate about their opinions, etc. I donât want to step on any toes with my opinions. I donât often post in depth or candidly about SW because I have friends from all parts of the fandom and Iâd hate to hurt someoneâs feelings. But these are my opinions! (Under a cut :D)
I loved the movie. At first I wasnât sure, but I saw it a second time with a friend and I loved it. Does it have plot holes, inconsistencies, and issues? Absolutely. It does. Itâs far from perfect and I absolutely understand why so many people have such intensely negative reactions to it.Â
But if Iâm being 100% honest I just wasnât one of those people. Yes, it was rushed. But that made it interesting from start to finish. I almost always step out to use the restroom during a movie in theaters. I think itâs a mental thingâIâm constantly thinking of how I DONâT want to step out to pee, so I always have to haha. But I didnât even think about it once during this movie! I just had that much fun watching it.Â
I can acknowledge that it had a lot of weaknesses, though, and Iâll talk about that first. I think most of the issues were a result of the film being the end of a trilogy that was helmed by two different people. It felt confused to me at points because I could see where JJ was trying to stick to what he clearly wanted to explore post-TFA while also trying to pick up where Rian Johnson left off post-TLJ. Itâs like they had different visions and JJ was trying to include aspects of both in TROS. In a lot of ways, that didnât work. I donât want to go into too many nitpicky details but I can sum up my one big gripe by saying I think Finn was done wrong.Â
I think this movie had a lot of big character moments for Rey, Ben, and Poe, but I donât feel like Finn got his due. I also think that from a shipping standpoint he was treated really unfairly. I genuinely felt while watching TFA that JJ was trying to lay the groundwork for canon Finnrey. In TLJ, Johnson went in a different direction with Finnrose and Reylo. So the problem, to me, is that in TROS JJ tried to follow up with Johnsonâs Reylo groundwork while still including nuggets of Finnrey. Watching the film, it seems abundantly clear to me that Finn was harboring feelings for Rey that were unrequited. His devotion to her felt one-sided and the almost-love-confession in the sinking sand seemed to confirm that for me. I realize at some fan panel JJ apparently said that what Finn was really going to confess was that he was Force-sensitive, not that he loved Rey. But any viewer watching the movie without that knowledge would not get that from it imo, so the average viewer is left thinking the writing left Finn in unrequited love with Rey. And the writing completely brushed the Finnrose relationship to the side. Iâm a Finnrey shipper so I didnât really love Finnrose to begin with. But since Johnson started it, I honestly donât know why JJ didnât just continue it if he was going to continue Reylo. It seems better than spending time establishing Finnâs continued feelings for Rey only to leave him alone, especially since TLJ ended with Finnrose: it should have been easy enough to pick up their relationship and carry it forward. I know unrequited love exists, and exploring it in fiction can be poignant. But in this case it just didnât track to me, and felt like a slap in the face to Finnâs character and anyone who was shipping Finnrey, Finnrose, or even Finnpoe. There seemed to be no reason to write Finnâs actions toward Rey the way they did if they werenât going to put them together. Finn wasnât together with anyone in the end. And in the same vein, shoehorning in a past romance for Poe with Keri Russellâs character just felt like a cheap way to make sure Finnpoe wasnât going to happen. Idk. But these were the only aspects I really didnât like.Â
I loved the many displays of Reyâs incredible power. I loved seeing Rey use the Force to heal, just like we saw Baby Yoda do in that weekâs episode of The Mandalorian. I thought the scene where she accidentally used Force lightning was chilling and interesting foreshadowing for Rey Palpatine, even though I donât really love that sheâs a Palpatine. That being said, as a scorned Dany fan, I really enjoyed the message that who you are by blood should not define you. GoT ultimately ended with the message that your family and your familyâs legacy are inescapable, grim realities. TROS had a much more hopeful message. This is also an important message to me personally because I have a lot of baggage with my father and his side of the family. Itâs something Iâve struggled with. I never want to be like him. That aspect of Reyâs inner conflict was really beautiful to me and I think Daisy portrayed her struggle with darkness very well. I also thought her vision of dark!Rey was terrifying and really well done. The scene of her looking in the mirror at herself under Ahch-To in TLJ was probably my favorite scene of that movie so I liked seeing JJ utilize similar imagery there.
I loved seeing the trio together on a mission. The chemistry between Daisy, John, and Oscar is excellent and the comedy and wholesomeness between them is what made the movie so fun and memorable imo. I would have been happy with an OT3 for their characters, but câest la vie haha.I loved the fan service. What can I say? Iâm a fan: I like to be serviced lol. I know it was cheesy to some people, but Force Ghost!Luke lifting his X-Wing out of the water for Rey made me tear up. It was a nice callback to the moment with Luke and Yoda on Dagobah. Speaking of callbacks, I also loved the final shot with the binary sunset on Tatooine. Iâll admit I donât really get why Rey has BB-8, or why sheâs alone, or why she would choose to live in a place that even Luke wanted desperately to leave⊠but the visual and musical parallel to ANH got me right in the feels in the best way.
I loved seeing Ian McDiarmid return as Palpatine, who was as delightfully evil as ever. I donât really understand how or why Palpatine had to come back, and I am not satisfied with the explanation for Snoke. But the Emperor is a classic and an iconic character I love. Having him as the ultimate baddy was satisfying in its own way. I also thought everything abot Exegol and the Sith fortress was terrifying and visually stunning. Even the sound effects of the lightning, and the way that blended with ominous music, was really interesting to me. I loved almost every sequence that took place on Exegol.
Lastly, (and this is the part I have been nervous to post about haha) I liked Ben Solo. I am not a Reylo shipper. Thatâs not something I talk about really because I have a ton of Reylo friends and I really treasure those people. The last thing I want to do is hurt their feelings or make them feel unwelcome on my blog. But In TFA and TLJ I didnât really see that many redeeming qualities in Kylo Ren, and I certainly donât ship him with Rey. I liked the character as a villain from the first moment I heard Adam Driverâs epic voice and saw Kylo Ren freeze Poeâs blaster bolt in stasis using the Force. I thought he was cool and I loved the crazy sound effects and unstable appearance of his unique lightsaber. But I just didnât really romanticize him at all. I also thought TLJ ended on a pretty definitively negative note for the character. He told his men in no uncertain terms to blow the Falcon out of the sky with Rey in it. And I didnât think killing Han and trying to kill Luke was something he was going to come back from. I didnât really want âBendemption.âÂ
I say all this because I think this is one of the reasons why TROS impressed me so much. When it actually happened, I was happy that Kylo was redeemed as Ben. The scene with Han reminded me that above all, this is Han and Leiaâs son. No matter how much of a villain I thought Kylo Ren was, I didnât want Han and Leia both to die and for their son to die in disgrace without ever having made amends for the things heâd done. I couldnât love Han and Leia the way I do without hoping for some semblance of peace for their family. And when he took off the Kylo Ren getup and dressed more like a regular guy, when he adopted some of Hanâs personality, when he stormed into Palpatineâs lair on Exegol blaster blazing, and most of all when he wielded a Jediâs lightsaber alongside Rey, I loved it. I really, truly loved it. And for someone who went into the movie theater expecting to hate that aspect of the story, I think that speaks volumes. They won me over. They made me like Ben Solo. I donât really think itâs a great social message for the real world in 2019 to forgive him despite all heâs done. But if I divorce it from real-world implications and just treat it like Star Wars, Iâm actually glad it happened the way it did. Leia deserved to have her death mean something. She gave the last of her strength to reach out to her son. Not to Kylo Ren, but to Ben Solo. She and the audience both deserved to see Ben Solo before the end. And for him to make the ultimate sacrifice for Rey was, to me, the best possible way he could go out. I found it to be a very compelling end. His death made me surprisingly sad, but it was a noble death.
Anyway, like I said above, I know the movie has a lot of issues. I havenât even addressed a fraction of the things I could say about this movieâboth good and bad. But ultimately I boil it down to how a movie makes me feel. This one left a strong emotional impact on me and I was happy to watch it a second time. I laughed, I cried, I reflected on why Iâve loved Star Wars for my entire life. So I have to say I liked it. Sorry for the giant answer haha :P
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//That's called a Mary Sue. And speaking of that, is there any other character in the Danganronpa canon you considered one aside from Chiaki?
//Hoo boy. Thatâs a term I think is really misapplied to a lotof situations. I never actually said Chiakiâs a Mary Sue, andthatâs because I donât think any incarnation of her is one.
//âMary Sueâ is such an overused and yet misunderstood conceptthat people use. And oftentimes, it gets thrown around becauseit feels like it adds validity to criticism that I feel is franklyunearned. The reason for that is because Sueness isnât acharacter problem, but symptomatic of a bigger writing problem.
//See, a lot of people think Sues are just unrealisticallyoverpowered, have no serious flaws, every person in the storyloves them no matter what they do, etc. but you can use thosetropes well with some quality writing and apply those to pretty muchany protagonist character from anime or superhero stories, butusually they donât get called Mary Sues or Gary Stus or whatever.
//No, what really defines Sueness is that they warp the reality ofthe story around them. A character can be at the center of a story,but a Mary Sue warps the story so the entire universe revolvesaround them, whether itâs showing how great they are, how evilthey are, how much their life sucks, etc. Thatâs fundamentallywhat makes a Mary Sue or Gary Stu what they are: theyâre at thecenter of everything and everything has to be about them insome way, shape, or form.
//Supporting casts, villains, side characters, plot, themes, allof it revolves around what the Sue does. All morals are defined aswhat the Sue thinks is right. All situations are resolved because ofwhat the Sue does. Itâs all about them. Nothing else matters,nothing else exists.
//Now letâs look at Human Chiaki. She starts off as a quietgamer girl who originally didnât have friends, but managed to getcloser to her classmates and bring everybody together throughher love of games. She opens up, has a great time with them, andbecomes their de facto leader, and also gets a lot of friendshipscenes with Hajime. All of which become poignantly tragic when shedies and everyone falls into despair.
//Thatâs it, really. Thatâs not a Mary Sue, thatâs just afairly flat character. And really, you can make the same argumentabout everyone in Class 77: theyâre side characters in a storythat should be about them. And even when theytalk about how great she is, not everything revolves around Chiaki.Hell, sheâs not even around in a few episodes of despair side andthereâs plenty of moments when nobody talks about her.
//Thatâs one of the things that bugs me when people complainabout DR3. Hajime didnât choose to become Izurujust to impress Chiaki, she was a small part of his ever-growinglist of insecurities. She didnât solve every single issue inClass 77, she didnât stop Junko, she couldnât save anyone, andmost critically, she actually did kinda assist ingetting everyone to fall into despair by encouraging themto save Chisa. That lead them right into that trap.
//Human Chiaki isnât a Mary Sue, sheâs a nice girl leader typesadly suffering from a serious case of underdevelopment Anditâs disappointing that people jump to âmary sueâto explain why, when really the issue is that she wasnât givenmuch to do along with everyone else. DR3 Despair Sidereally revolves around Chisa, Ryota, and Junko.
//I actually liked Chisa, so I donât have too many complaintsabout her other than disappointment in how her character arc ended.
//Ryota bugs me because he was created just to be the explanationfor how all this happened and they pour on all this angst and sadnessto make you feel for him when we literally didnât know him untilthis anime existed. And honestly, if the anime didnât spend somuch time trying to make us feel bad for him and dropped the stupidbrainwashing, Iâd probably be more sympathetic. I at least applaudthem for going with him actually creating the brainwashing anime andit was completely his own fault.
//And that brings me to Junko. Sheâs really the closest to a Suein this situation, and frankly a lot of DR. It always has to comeback around to her, her schemes, her plans, her boredom, hermanipulation, her pulling the strings in some way, shape, or form.And DR3 really is the worst example of it, where she gets awaywith her plans completely unimpeded. Yet was too lazy to actually doanything, so went with âlol brainwashing.â
//The fact that the DR fandom has âIt was really Junko allalongâ and that they actually reference that fact in V3 is proofthat this franchise has a serious issue with revolving the situationaround a character that...frankly bores and annoys the hell out ofme.
//Junko just isnât an interesting enough character in my opinionto hold this status as total and complete mastermind of everything.Not even in SDR2, which I actually really liked. Itâshonestly everything that happens around her and because of herthat I find far more interesting. She sets into motion so much coolstuff and itâs really the people motivated to these things by heractions that make DR interesting.
//Sheâs supposed to be this profoundly intelligent manipulativemastermind, and I applaud Kodaka for not giving her a backstory asan excuse, but let me ask this: do we ever actually see heruse any manipulation techniques? Do we see her successfully turn orconvince anyone on screen? Do we see her successfully playing puppetmaster? Not really.
//The most we get are people saying she did or it happeninglargely off-screen. And what she does on screen in DR3 is just usingsomeone elseâs creations and skills to achieve her own goals.Beyond that, most of what we get is her rambling about despair overand over to the point that it stops sounding like a word. Herattempts at manipulation always felt hollow to me, and maybe itâsbecause Iâve heard a ton of villain speeches before, but I wascompletely unphazed by all of her pseudophilosophical ramblings.
//Thatâs not just a dig at her. Characters that only everwhine about how life is boring, without meaning, imperfect, too hard,or whatever always annoy me. And especially when their logic forwhat theyâre doing boils down to petty childishness andself-centered entitlement. I could write an essay about how muchI despise Adachi from Person 4 and completely fail to get why so manypeople love him, but thatâd be getting off topic.
//Point is, based on the definition I provided, Junko is far moreof a Mary Sue than Chiaki is and the issues with DR3 go beyondcharacterization and extend more to having too little time towork with everything they have and devoting it to thewrong elements. DR3 feels like a fist draft that was madeinto a final product.
//And also, thatâs not me saying you shouldnât like Junko. Ifyou like her and think sheâs a compelling villain, go for it. Morepower to you. Iâm not one to tell you which characters you can andcanât like, Iâm just explaining my opinion.
//Iâd also prefer if people stop tossing around âmarysueâ like itâs a shortcut to criticism without analyzing what itactually means. Itâs less of a character problem and more of anoverall writing problem. Your story should not be an eventhorizon bent around the singularity of a single character.
#mod talks#mod rambles#a student out of time#mary sue is an overused and yet misunderstood term#Anonymous
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So... I have mixed feelings about this chapter.
On the one hand, everythingâs been cleared up! Where everyone stands has been flat-out stated so that all readers can be on the same page. John is very clearly not a good guy anymore, no matter how sympathetic he was in the past, and trying to argue that heâs not is just wishful thinking at this point.
On the other hand... Iâm not too happy with this new direction. John was quite clearly set up to be a sympathetic protagonist, powers be damned, and he was a good one. He had in the past fallen victim to an unhealthy mindset and become a toxic person, which he had recovered from to become more healthy and willing to work constructively towards a better society. Nowhere is this more prevalent than in the flashbacks he shares with Sera - he singlehandedly convinced her to reject the trappings of a toxic society. That arc is extremely cathartic to read as a result.
All in all, John was great. He was easy to root for and feel for, and his struggle seemed so organic - he could have just shown off and become king of Wellston, but instead he recognised his weaknesses and played to his strengths, trying to create reform from the ground up, even if it mean he had to sacrifice a great deal of personal comfort and get socially ostracised and beaten up every day.
Thereâs a reason John at the beginning of the story we so compelling, and that was his motivation. He had recognised a failing and a shortcoming in society, and he was willing to do anything to fix it organically, rather than just jumping at it from a position of power like Rei did, and the superheroes did. These characters showed us why Johnâs organic approach was so essential in a society so opposed to change, and we respected John for his goals.
This was also a reason why the twist that John was a high-tier was so good - reliably, one who is oppressed will be looking to fight oppression, but John is made so much more interesting because he very specifically isnât one of the oppressed group. In fact, heâs one of the elite. Everything he suffers, he suffers out of choice and not necessity. Sure, he may have experienced oppression previously (whilst researching John, Isen found records that before his second-year in Bostin, John was very lowly-ranked, perhaps even a true âcrippleâ), but he was very quick to shed that and embrace elite life when his true ability became apparent. Invariably, John at the beginning was an altruistic individual who had grown from his mistakes and decided he would give up everything he could have based on his ability - a high social standing, a universal respect, and a comfy life - in favour of trying to combat the hierarchy. This is what made his friendship with Sera so powerful and great - he worked for it, and worked to help her break out of a toxic mindset like he had done. Itâs why Arloâs betrayal hurts so much - John offered olive branches, tried to make Arlo see that there was a better way, and yet Arlo still looked at him and saw someone to be taken down.
This is why I took such a dislike to the Joker arc. It took everything impressive and compelling about Johnâs character and took the tipp-ex to it like gritty live-action reebok would have done. The fact that Johnâs character was boiled down to âlol AGRESSIVE EDGY WHITE BOIâ was in part frustrating because weâd specifically seen him grow past this, goddamn it, and because it took away everything that made him so compelling.
Now, we have other characters - namely Remi, Blyke, and Isen - stepping in to fill the role of Plucky Heroes Working to Better Society, with Remi specifically following a similar trajectory to John at the beginning of the story.
Just one problem.
If this was the story that wanted to be told, why did we spend 100+ episodes on Johnâs character arc, which was erased with the purchase of one (1) mask and some very bad decisions? If Remi was supposed to be the ubiquitous hero, then why didnât we also start with her as the protagonist? If John was supposed to become an evil dickbag and a villain, why didnât he start out as a thinly-veiled dickbag who played with others and manipulated them because he wanted to watch the world burn, instead of a sympathetic protagonist who suddenly does a 180?
I know it sounds like Iâm bashing unordinary - and thatâs not my intention, I really do love the comic, and Remi, Blyke and Isen, I would die for - but this complete butchery of Johnâs character vexes me to no end, precisely because he was so compelling.
Right now, it seems that the Joker arc is being salvaged, and things are being clarified after the muddle that had thrown the status quo into a cell and mangled it. Donât get me wrong, itâs great to shake up the status quo - but the way it was done here also twisted the characters, making it seem like the story was driving them instead of the other way round.
I feel this like from Isen sums it up.
If someone had told me this about John before the Joker arc, Iâd have asked them which dark AU this was from. Now, it fits Johnâs character, but at the same time, Johnâs character no longer fits him as we knew him. Heâs spiralled into anarchy and chaos with seemingly very little reason - sure, Arlo had him beaten up and Sera was picked on after she lost her ability - but given that heâd been taking this shit on the chin and wearing it, that shouldnât have been enough to make him go full dark side!
However, I do feel the story has taken on a direction Iâm more on board with; namely, that students are taking responsibility and trying to better their society. Even so, I still feel a little sad about what we lost. I enjoyed Remiâs line about John, and itâs satisfying to see her recognise that Johnâs not just some Edgy but Saveable Good Boi UwU (looking at you, Kyle Ron), but still, the wording was a little bittersweet.
I, for one, would have loved it if that were true.
#unordinary#unordinary meta#guys i swear i love uno i just ramble a lot about it#unordinary analysis#unordinary webtoon#webtoon meta#uno meta#unordinary rambles#iâm so sorry if this comes off as bashing itâs not meant to#no insult meant to the author i just disagree with some of the story decisions#okay iâve made up my mind#the next 3 things i post about uno have to be positive#i donât want to be a salty bitch
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