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[kittykatstiles]

Anon here about the siand fics thanks for the list.

I've only been reading fics since 22' and she hasn't been active for most of that time. So idk if it's bad or not but her writing is superb and I really want to read all of it.

if you feel comfortable could you share the files?

Idk if siand has said something against it.

not at all!! i think most of us usually had her fics saved 😭 but i’m afraid all my files that i collected from place to place are on my books app on my phone and i have no idea how to share it….. but you should check these posts they have all of the files and wayback link! so kudos to them <3

from christinesficrecs

from cgsf

from bhadpodcast dropbox

btw i checked my list again and i missed Cry Wolf… i found the file here so make sure you read it too it was amazing!! and if you can’t find any fic pls dm me i’ll do my best to find a way to send it to you

[morewinepod]

Don’t miss my latest with @stickykeys633 of the @bhadpodcast and Tamara about #SleepyHollow. The three of us talk about the amazing pilot episode and then Tamara and I take the writers to task for their foolishness. So much wasted potential - we get into all of it!

[thisdiscontentedwinter]

Disco. I got into Teen Wolf largely (all) because of fics from you, and some others. I fell in love with the characters, I enjoyed screenshots on tumblr, I have seen 30 minutes of the pilot. It's my #1 fandom and source of the majority of my comfort fics. I just saw a spoiler article about *major character death* and ... seriously? Are there any accounts or tags you recommend following to "watch" the movie - because seriously? I got a tumblr account 2 weeks ago and there is NOTHING on my dash.

DW: Check out the general “Teen Wolf” tag for gifs, fics, and general outrage. But definitely also check out the Sterek tag for all the fix it fics! And @bhadpodcast is fantastic for ongoing salt, behind the scenes bullshit, and laughing at Jeff Davis. 

[bhadpodcast]

Teen Wolf Twitter Q&A

@bhadpodcast answering questions as vaguely and spoiler free as I can. Check it out!

[fandomslash]

Happy Birthday @stickykeys633 / @bhadpodcast !!! You’re a gift to this fandom and I appreciate all the hard work it takes to bring us all together the way you do.  You have changed my life for the better, I hope you have a wonderful day!!!

[bae-baethang-sterek]

I wanna do another rec for your birthday. Since i know you love them so much.

Wow! I can't believe you've been on this earth for........?

[abodynamicslife]

Ode to Beacon Hills (BHAD Teen Wolf Podcast)

Lyrics under the cut:

Ode to Beacon Hills

We've never seen a lycan in the flesh Yet we sleep with mistletoe by the bedside And we just can't handle all this stress Just can't invest. Don't know next who will die.

And we'll never be werewolves (werewolves) That kind of life just ain't our game We like to sleep through the night And we kinda like wolves bane

You can be our alphas (alphas) Unless your name ends with Hale And baby you'll rule (you'll rule) Unless you're minority or female

[strictly-chaotic]

Did someone say Sterek? @bhadpodcast

[mojoflower]

Awwww, lotsa adorable fennec fox Stiles (actually Dylan) photos that Anonymous submitted to @bhadpodcast but couldn’t do the images, so I did the work for them (is that okay?), ‘cause @bashfyl​ pointed it out to me and Do Not Go Gentle and foxy Stiles!  Now all we need is lotsa wolfy Derek to go with....

[jules889-blog]

My problem with Stydia

Stydia was established from day one through Stiles' crush on Lydia. The dynamic was so interesting that it even helped set up both their characters on the show. In other words, Stydia helped build up Stiles and Lydia characterization through their interactions. This is what a good relationship development on a show does, it builds character not only when paired together but also on their own. This was done very well between Scott and Stiles in the first season. From Sciles we learnt that Scott is not the smartest person but ultimately he's sweet and caring (much like the ever lovable Joey from Friends). Similarly, Stydia punctuated who Stiles and Lydia were. Stiles as the funny, awkward, bumbling, obsessively loyal "Robin" to everyone else's "Batman" and Lydia was self-assured but also  insecure, she wanted to feel appreciated but also wanted to stand on her own two high-heeled feet.  Stydia is undeniably important to both characters on the show because it created multiple levels to their personality outside of other pairings on the show. Without that dynamic, Stiles would have just been 'the best friend'  and Lydia would have been the 'self-absorbed prom queen'. The fact that Stydia is real is undisputed, they have always had that "connection". The question here is 'is Stydia romantic or platonic?'

This is a relationship that could have gone either way. If Stydia was endgame, Jeff Davis should have cashed out on the development a long time ago, way back in Season 3B when Lydia and Stiles were starting to build up a friendship and Lydia could be seen developing feelings for Stiles (the red string, the staring, leaning on each other for support, staying back with him when he passed out). Jeff could even have done it after their first kiss which could have been passed off as Lydia actually wanting to kiss Stiles because she was starting to develop feelings for him. Instead, time went by, nothing happened until Stalia and we could only assume that the kiss was just to calm his panic attack and there was absolutely no romantic feelings behind it after all. The fact that Jeff Davis is now claiming it was always his intention all along cheapens all character development that both characters had after the kiss (and let's be honest, there wasn't much development since Season 3 to begin with).

If Jeff didn't want Stydia to happen then he should have stuck to his guns and kept it that way. The rush to push Stydia in 6A now seems forced and much like fanservice that doesn't even please its fans because they've run out of time to properly develop it (what with Dylan O'Brien leaving). It is almost impossible to develop a romantic onscreen relationship when half of its participants isn't there. Not to mention most of the fanbase isn't there anymore either. 

I was 13/14 when Teen Wolf first came out in 2011 and as a straight, white girl who was just discovering my sexuality, I hopped onto the Stydia train along with my group of friends with whom I used to watch the show. Growing up we weren't big on computers so we weren't involved in the online fandom but we had our own little Stydia ship happening. Fast forward a few years and my friends all slowly lost interest in the ship and the show, leaving me as the only one left watching the decimation of this once beloved show which was a huge part of my teenage years.

  I'll admit, Stalia completely destroyed any interest I had in the Stydia. I would have been happy if neither of them ever ended up dating anyone as long as they were happy and had strong characterisations. Why give them a relationship for the sake of having a relationship without any real substance? The fact that Jeff is pushing Stydia together now after most of its fanbase is no longer invested just reeks of desperation to keep the few fans who remain. This, to me, is not only an insult to the fans who have stayed in hopes that the show will again become what it once was but also an insult to himself. He is hanging himself and ridiculing all the work he has done in the past by devolving into fanservice and ridiculous plotlines. 

It also shows just how incapable Jeff is of actually creating strong, original content that keeps up with the ever-changing fans. As I said, I grew up watching the show, I now have more opinions on the show than I ever had before and am now starting to think for myself. The problem is that the show just refuses to grow with me. I see Jeff throwing new writers and characters at the show in hopes that something will stick. What he should have done is gone back to the characters that made the show successful (Scott, Stiles, Lydia, Derek, Isaac, Deaton, the mamas and papas, etc.) and developed those characters. This show has been on air for six years... it could have been very sentimental to the audience if they got to see the characters grow with them (this is the reason Harry Potter has kept its audience throughout the years). This is also the reason Stiles in the FBI was such a success with the few remaining fans (even though it made no sense at all). It was poorly written and had no business being in the (already screwed up) timeline but for once, we actually got to see some development that we've been itching for instead of the constant stalemate.

That said, fans have to accept that Jeff is not obligated to make a ship canon just because a fanbase wants it to happen. He is the creator after all, he has the right to decide which artistic direction his show should take. However, the same can be said for the fans... if the show no longer caters to our interests, we are not obligated to keep watching. This in no way makes you a 'bad fan' (a term I hear the Stydia shippers using more and more lately) nor does it make your past eperience with the show any less valid. It simply is what it is... and that leads me onto the next thing that bothers me about this show, Tyler Posey.

Although I was a Stydia fan in the beginning and I never picked up any other ship, Tyler Posey's comment on "watching the show for the wrong reason" really rubs me the wrong way. There is absolutely no right or wrong reason to watch a show. The audience can watch the show for any reason they choose. They don't even have to like a show to be invested in it. Sure, most people watch a show because they enjoy the plot but you can go in the extreme opposite and be invested in the show because of how bad it is. A show can be so bad that is keeps you entertained (God knows that's the only reason to watch Jaws 4). The fact that Posey thinks he can dictate the reason we should watch 'his' show is not only immature but also extremely misguided. It is not his place to tell a fan that they can't watch the show because they want to see Stiles or Derek (or a romantic Sterek). Heck, it's also none of his concern is a person is watching the show for a guest star or a recurring character like Danny or Coach or even Deucalion. Any reason to watch a show is valid if it makes you want to watch it. Don't get me started on the "twisted, weird and bizarre" comment because that is plain insulting to the show's dedicated fans. Oddly, he never stopped to think that maybe he should be encouraging any reason to watch the show. It doesn't matter how small or inconsequential it seems to him as long as they are watching 'his' show. He is the main character of this show and he has staked his professional reputation on it. Surely it is more important that 'his' show is successful even if it turns out to be a collaborative effort.

This brings me to the other actors in this ship... Holland Roden and Dylan O'Brien. To be honest, the actors just don't seem invested in the relationship. Like I said earlier, I never used to pay attention to fandom and behind the scenes interviews. It was not until the show really started to decline in quality (ahem, Season 4) that I started wondering "what the hell is going on?" and decided to look it up. From looking at cast interviews, I have come to the conclusion that Holland Roden's perspective has always been 'I don't care about about Stydia, but I'll do it if I have to'. On the other hand, it is Dylan O'Brien's attitude throughout the years that has had a massive change. At first, he was very interested, his attitude towards the romance was 'yes, give Stiles a romantic interest. I would love to act on the romance'. In one interview he said, "it will happen one day". Then along came Stalia and it seemed like he was ready to move on to other potential directions that his character could go and his attitude towards Stydia changed into 'it could be fun if it happens but I'm also willing to explore any other relationship'. Fast forward another year and he came off as 'I don't care about this anymore. It's time to move on from not only Stydia but also the show'. 

Normally, I don't care about whatever is going on behind the scenes, and I don't care about how an actor feels about their character as long as they portray it well (Harrison Ford can hate Han Solo as much as he wants, he portrayed that character too well for me to do so). The difference here is that Stydia was very poorly executed by both cast members. Holland and Dylan are both very good actors and have both given a solid performance throughout the past seasons (despite the horrible scripts as the seasons progressed). Despite their acting ability, neither of them were able to sell the relationship at all.

This begs to question, if even the actors could tell that the relationship had lost momentum, why couldn't Jeff Davis (the creator/ writer/ producer/ god of all things good and evil on heaven and earth? I don't even know what he is anymore) realise that this story arc had missed its opportunity and is no longer feasible? Who thought that the best way to develop one of the most demanded ships on the show was to have them kiss, look at each other then never do anything about it ever again? In what universe could this have possibly ended in any other way besides disappointment?

[colethewolf]

I think this TW movie is trying to resurrect Posey's (dying hehe) acting career, bc he's Davis' favorite. I can see them going all "fan-wishes" and I don't think that's a very good prospect for all of us. And, with the IATSE strike coming its way, I don't see a movie coming soon hehe. And its actors ran away from that away from that black hole (after 3B), how would they willingly come back? That's it, I said it, bye.

We talked about this on @bhadpodcast's podcast. Let me just list all the things this movie will need to achieve in order for it to work out.

actually write the film that paramount approves

negotiate contracts with previous cast members

actually succeed in getting back legacy/nostalgia characters (Stiles, Derek, Jackson, Lydia)

be able to afford Dylan O'Brien & Tyler Hoechlin while still having a reasonable budget for the rest of the movie

start filming anywhere from Oct. 2021 - Jan. 2022 for a reasonable mid-late 2022 release

be able to construct new sets & get access back to old sets

work around COVID restrictions for filming

work around the IATSE strike

be able to include characters like Stiles without overshadowing Scott

be able to write in NEW characters alongside old characters without the movie feeling bloated

It's..........a lot & idk if they will actually be able to write something that logistically makes sense & will be good enough to actually want to make old cast members return.

[niallloverontheloose]

Just some links to receipts regarding liliaeth for you to share or reblog if you want to:

https://sweetwhiskeyluck-blog.tumblr.com/post/159858322443/akria23-bhadpodcast-liliaeth

https://nightswatchrebel.tumblr.com/post/155770368151/liliaeth-nightswatchrebel-bhadpodcast

https://sweetwhiskeyluck-blog.tumblr.com/post/155789578368/bhadpodcast-here-is-the-post-where-lilieth

https://bunchesnbarrels.tumblr.com/post/188784716985/here-you-go-ive-seen-this-nonsense-before-lets

https://practicallysatanic.tumblr.com/post/620014750850514944/imagine-using-real-child-of-color-tamir-rices

[morewinepod]

TGIF! Don’t miss my fun chat with @fandombite, @stickykeys633 (both from the @bhadpodcast) & our resident podcast supernatural expert @terencebjohnson about the #WolfPack pilot & the #TeenWolfMovie.

We drink, we laugh, and we DRAG!

[thisdiscontentedwinter]

Happy birthday, Sticky!

@bhadpodcast @stickykeys633

[bhadpodcast]

Teen Wofl The Mooby: The Farce Thickens"PLUS OUTTAKES!"

In which StickyKeys, FandomSlash, Ethan, Cole and Jess Discuss:

Listne, I'mma keep it real with y'all. It's been a long time since I've done this and ya girl is rusty.

This podcast has everything!

Discussion about the Wikia Tweet

Oh dear Coco

So many tangents

This messy af movie

Honestly I don't remember, but it was a LOT!

Enjoy!

And if you have a question and want to leave a message, please be sure to use our inbox!

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OUTTAKES:

https://anchor.fm/skproductions/episodes/Teen-Wofl-the-Mooby-The-Farce-Thickens---OUTTAKES-e1ef5ok

In which StickyKeys, FandomSlash, Ethan, Cole and Jess Discuss:

The Colton Haynes of it All

We Need to Talk About Sinqua

Hoechlin's Rep

Hoechlin's Aggressive Kiss

Holland's Career

Spiderman?

Froy Gutierrez Madden

Andrew Garfield and His Love for the Male Pheremone

AND SO MUCH MORE!

Enjoy!

And if you have a question and want to leave a message, please be sure to use our inbox!

https://anchor.fm/skproductions/message

[camelotpark]

Ignoring and blocking is the best way to deal with stubborn morons, they and their friends always count it as their win, they get likes and following and stuff in their fandom. But when you are a cause warrior and critic then no fandom likes you bc fandoms demand total submission, hey you are now a fandom slave. We never fit anywhere because we won't do that, we point out when 'tis wrong we serve logic not fandom

continued- 1/2  continuing - Expose their lack of logic, make them famous. Expose how toxic they are. Because if you don't, they will. They will make it all about themselves and try to put you down. Condescending pseudos.

The issue is they see this as something that is winning and losing.

 I have a particularly stupid anon in my askbox right now that shows that they don’t give a damn about anything that ruins their “fun” 

All this pesky talk about racism and media’s responsibility on the world at large seriosuly kills their buzz.

I don’t give a damn about them or their feelings, but I will very happily use them as examples of the problems in fandom and why calling them out is so important.

fandoms demand total submission

This is true. If not submission then they want silence. Their enjoyment is more important then another person’s pain in seeing how fandom treats the “others” of fandom. 

You don’t like fandom? Leave

You want to be critical? Don’t watch.

You hate how I show racial bias? Create your own space.

They decided fandom was for them and they set the rules and the moment you go against those rules they spend years harrassing you, stalking you, making post after post about everything you say to “win”

“And lol @ Camelot talking about racism when they had to fight for Scott to be a TOP DOG. THAT’S RACIST, CAM!!”

Her friend compared a Mexican American Actor to a dog pissing in a house. I called that racist friend out and @bhadpodcast took great offense to this.

Called me an “angry mexican token” and said I wanted her dead.

So, this is her “winning” snappy comment. Talking about a situation where someone said Scott was a Top Dog in a poll I have nothing to do with. Did not vote on or even knew it existed, but see not going on a rampage about means I can’t actually be upset that her friend would call a Mexican-American man a dog pissing.

Now, she don’t give a shit about someone calling Scott that. She just wants to use it to excuse her own friend’s racist actions.

They talk about “weponizing racism” but have no problem doing exactly that to make themselves look as stupid and ignorant as they always do

Racism in fandom is not something she gives a damn about and actively hates it when it’s pointed at her and her friends because it makes them clear examples of the problems in fandoms. They want people to follow the rules they set so long ago and people are not doing that.

I could tell them if they don’t like fandom and the critique of it then they could leave. But I wouldn’t want to come off angry, would I?