#because if everything that noogai needed was to call a stick the dark lord for them to be powerful
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storgicdealer · 7 months ago
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OH MY GOD YOUR THOUGHTS GAVE ME SO MUCH THOUGHT FOOD TO CHEW ON ..... this is amazing
the stickmen being worms ........ yeag. this is just them
but it does make me wonder what exactly would be the breaking point for an antivirus to step in. chosen basically ravaged the whole pc so with the whole worm thing it isnt surprising for him to be noticed but when exactly would a program notice that. man. this symbol right 'ere is foreeeignn
a side dish for thoughts: large spiders were observed to eat worms in nature. wuhahahuwveve evevegw. the symbolism will go crayzayzay
I LOVE INTERNET AND DIGITAL HISTORY. the first virus and antivirus???? oh my god. AND THE HISTORY BEHIND THEM?????? OH MY GOD. my chosen & dark duo soul will enjoy dissecting this frame by frame ...
love these silly internet and digital stories its actually crazy that i didnt know given how much i read on it. op pls share more. also love how you referred to it as an autoimmune disease lmaooo
THE OUTERNET!!!!!!
i love the addition of branches of cables stemming from the internet because. god yeah. exactly. all of it makes up the in n' out
and then the portals.
back when showdown premiered ive interpreted the portals as just teleportation. but given the fact they physically travel thru these portals, the fact that they lead through something does make me think how do they connect to the internet
(again. my huge amount of coins on how i just love the way digital world is converted to a 3d one in ava. my beloved concept and probably one of the biggest reasons i adore the series so much)
after dark n cho travel through these portals they just end up on the flat sites surfaces. we didn't see an observable point of how they get there from the outernet because the shots just changed quickly from the portal travel –> the internet
the first theory* that www adresses are under the outernet is something i didnt really think about before ... but assuming that these adresses are the same ones pc users use i think that the second theory** is actually the case. im drawing a complex map of it in my mind ill actually sketch it hold on
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HONESTLY now that i drew it it DOES click more in my mind right now. for dark the programmista having a constantly accessible travel to the internet without having to go through pc's of users (and god forbid the pc of their torturer) and without having to deal with a possible threat of being detected making completely independent portals that link the 3d space of the outernet with the internet is a great solution. yet i think how does it manifest itself in the outernet if it does go to the same locations the pc users are in? it goes through the cliff ground under darks shack and then ... uh. huh.
going back to the theory of the adresses located under the outernet... would it mean that the pc users travel through the outernet, to something undernearth it? and the outernet is an in-between of the pc and the internet?
man the last assumption does. feel slightly possible
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but then theres still a question how does a travel of pc users to a space beneath the outernet manifests itself as well. in general do any of these possible portals show themselves in the sky of the outernet or do they behave like regular portals with an just an invisible link connecting them . . .
thoughtline C. ohhhhh my go.
i can find it completely possible. and that our chosen rejected and fulfilled their destiny ... op im breaking down on my knees right now
based on the previous post about tdls arc i rb'd and filled with my ramblings and ascii art i also just rb'd im going to continue my ramblings about the rules of code in ava
(with doodles!)
okay so. all we know right now is that all sticks to begin with have a script. and that it starts with their name and influences their destiny?/powers. its obviously notable with the hollowheads and also but im rambling on other sticks as well
i have lots of questions about how much code and programs work in the universe and influences everyone. the first obvious question is the coding of tdl with their command of destroying chosen. i adore the interpretation of it still affecting them in some way in the fandom !!!! however in canon it isnt elaborated upon. which begs the question of did it affect them? if it did, just how much did it affect them?? was any of this code left in their programming?? if it did affect them, how did they manage it??? have they tried to mess with their programming?? honestly, how did they start programming in the first place???? since they came directly from the pc, interacted with programs and the fact that code wouldve been useful in their terrors its not surprising for them at all to code by themselves, but no other hollowheads were shown to master it to a point of creating something — could it been the consequence of trying to remove their command? another question, if it was still somehow left in them, how did it affect them during showdown?
one of the interpretations of it that it's been "dormant" and that their need of destroying had shown itself in their seven year long reign of terror and why it was SO hard for them to back off. and that the showdown eventually made both dark and chosen to go "back to their roots". but since the command was targeted on chosen specifically i believe that if thats were the case the need to destroy wouldve been expressed to him and not to the whole web (god all this stuff opens so many ideas for them)
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my second big wonder that i have is about the creation of chosen himself. as i mentioned in my rb all hollowheads attacked only when they felt threatened or had a command ingrained into them like with dark. except chosen
he attacked the second that he was born without being threatened. just by getting his name. (its also interesting to note the names noogai considered before bringing him to life – again victim, killer and BEAST. did any of that influence chosen too?). in the instant messenger conversation programmer021 mentioned stickmen having levels which i believe is most widely interpreted in a non literal sense, just in the "how powerful is he" way. but if it is used in a somewhat literal sense? it opens a big conception of leveling??? and that being the "chosen one" is, supposedly, one of the highest levels possible for a stickman to have. and the fact that making him the chosen one was called a suicide???? god
it isnt really known from the series alone how much being the chosen one influences a stickman or a creation in general besides having very high levels of power. at the same time, having powers isnt an instant call to attack — unless there are in-universe rules that suppose that being the chosen one immediately means destruction being ingrained into a sticks code. but if thats the case... how much would it influence chosen as well?? wouldnt he have an innate, coded need of destruction too? and if its like this, how would he come back down from it? and if it goes in hand with tdls command too, why it was easier for him to denounce destruction than to tdl? does being the chosen one imply a variety of abilities, with destruction being part of it, but not it being the part that is impossible to suppress?
along with the "literal levels" idea, where would the second coming and the dark lord come in the "hierarchy"? and with the idea that being "the chosen one" initially supposes destruction, did the dark lord, given their name, have any initial code of destruction prior until the go and kill chosen command? why instead of attacking noogai as well they stretched at first instead, until they got their command?
these thoughts bring me to the idea of how exactly adobeflash brings a stick to life, to have a code of their own that influences them and ill probably have to dig information on the program itself and its coding language to know more about its functions. if bringing a stick to life, giving them powers is a function of animated programs in the universe, what else can a program do with them? how does adobeflash makes its creations interact with other applications? how could a creator get rid of a sticks life except for the supposed "dont save the changes" button? man. the whole idea of ava having interactable, 3d and alive internet, animations and creations in general, the existence of outernet as a whole makes me really happy since i just adore internet and digital concepts. i love exploring ava rules !!!
now getting to the second coming. to begin with, how was the program aware of who they were a second coming of in the first place to give them powers? the question feels answearable, but at the same time, second wasnt aware of their powers up until literally the last episode of ava. theres a lot to be thought about their awakening too
if most applications, art and creations has their own consciousnesses [desktop applications, youtube, browser stuff and etc], then how did specifically the last frame of second's animation come to life? could any previous frames of that animation be alive as well? and if they could be, would second's "clones" have the same powers and the same name?
in general, sticks are perceived as a separate entity in ava, but i do wonder if that could be the case, based on the fact that victims clones were able to be created and used after lol. even with vics clones, even with the idea that they're temporary, do they share the same memories with victim? given that victims life was "unsaved" along with their clones, were they able to "uncopy" themselves, or did they continue to just exist? are the clones that agent deployed in the box the same clones or new ones, just made with the amount that what victim is personally used to/the amount of weapons that victim is used to? if they are the same ones and were somehow able to "get back" into victim, do they continue sharing the same memories with them?
talking about other sticks i also have questions about their code. color gang for example
so far we had only seen the creation of hollowhead sticks by noogai and we dont even know about how other types of sticks came to life, not even mentioning the process of it, their code and their possible "program of birth". we do know that other alive sticks, and other HOLLOWHEADS, created by users exist given the stick rights banner in ava 3, yet it is the only clue of stickmen like noogais hollowheads existing. and we know that nonhollowheads are considered "naturally created" sticks both in internet and outernet, and that they're naturally weaker than "artificial" hollowheads are and that, supposedly, they reproduce by themselves. but how did they come to exist in the first place? do the rules of the universe imply them just coming into life by themselves, with the outernets existence? we do know, again, that users, other computers and programs exist in the universe and that some sticks are created by other artists, but were any of non-hollowheads like the colorgang, mercs, king, purple, gold, navy&orchid, everyone in the cities we have seen created by someone else as well? and why noogais stickmen are more special than others? are there stickmen stronger than noogais hollowheads? ... how would you tell two solid-headed sticks apart if, say, some artist created a copy of a "naturally" made stick?
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if non-hollowheads stickmen are created too, are they in touch with their creators? besides the enslavement fact-freedom guy stick banner, do creators tend to torture or befriend their sticks, creations in general? are there stereotypes about sticks and their creators? is it more or less acceptable in stick society to be in touch with your creator? are other creators, besides noogai, aware of the outernet?
... where would the creators of the color gang, mercs, king and purple & co be?
talking about the "natural" and the reproduction part, i do wonder, if, in case of non-hollowheads also being created by other people and animators, purple and gold came to life as a will of creators or as a will of the sticks themselves. we have only seen symbolic depiction of purple coming to life in their song, and i feel like it can be a depiction of a stickman drawn for two other stickmen (with the existing code of them being their child) or a proof of actual, natural reproduction. if child sticks were drawn for the parent sticks, were they drawn by their creator or by the parents themselves?
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talking about creation again, i do wonder why king was called "king" in the minecraft code, given that he had a life prior to becoming one. was it a player name inside minecraft that he has given to himself, or a name that he had outside minecraft as well? if its the second, why was he called king before? did he do anything king role related prior minecraft? and if it is not his real name, what IS his real name? and did he end up changing it back?
in general, talking about my favourite alive internet concepts, how did outernet appear? did it come into existence along with the internet? is outernet an extension of internet, and does it serve as a sort of a "backstage" for what is happening in the internet sites?
in my personal interpretation, i feel like outernet IS and extension of internet, and it develops with it — that, if you needed to describe it, the internet is the flat front of a regular box, while the outernet is the 3d space inside the box.
goooddd i think im done with my questions and ramble. my beckerverse brainrot consumes all. this is so long omg
if you read till the end...... have an aurora borealis duo doodle !!!! thank yew
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