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mysterious-prophetess · 1 year ago

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Things to keep in mind when writing works set in other decades PART 2!

Part 1—I touched on Tech

Part 2—Culture/Pop Culture

Culture

This part is a potential minefield, but it does bear commenting, so here goes.

Culture has shifted a lot between different decades. Especially the last fifty years.

A lot has happened in the past ten/fifteen years that would be unthinkable in the early 2000's, let alone the 70's, 80's, or 90's.

So, just keep in mind that we—as a society—are different now than we were then.

So, onto a less fraught topic: Pop Culture!

Make sure certain Pop culture things actually existed in whatever time your work is set.

E.G. social media (I consider this more pop culture than tech).

Prior to the late 00's, the only major "social media" was MySpace. Facebook wasn't a big thing until just before the 2010's, YouTube was brand new in 2004, our beloathed blue hellsite(affectionate) didn't exist until 2009, and Twitter(I will never call it anything else) 2013, and TikTok didn't spawn out of hell until 2016. Ergo, any works set before certain years should not have different combinations of these.

One should also check to see if certain books/movies/games/songs/tv shows were out too.

We fans can often know a lot about a LOT of things, and nothing is more jarring than seeing someone in a work set in the 2000's talk about watching a movie from years later.

Slang is something else to consider.

Unless it's part of a catchphrase or particular speech pattern, it can also be a bit jarring. That's why I often avoid using slang, when possible, because it is the quickest way to date a work.

This happened to the 2007 film Juno.

BONUS ROUND—Fashion!

Fashion is also part of pop culture and I gotta say, you really need to double check this too because it has fluctuated the most!

For example, with all the 80's nostalgia, I have to rain on parades because I've seen pictures of 80's fashion from family albums of the era, and the neon stuff they like to push as "totally 80's" was toward the END of the decade and overspilled onto the early 90's.

Again, Tl:Dr—Do the research if your work is set in our world, but not the current day, because it can really show in a bad way.

#advice #the 80's were also a lot more brown than one might think #as were the early 90's #and we shifted from 80's hang-over to more plaids and plain stuff in the mid 90's.#just check out TV shows from the era

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canisalbus · 1 year ago

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I'm sure you've already answered this but is Machete styled after a silken windhound? He is so very shaped

His breed is fictional, but it closely resembles modern day Ibizan hound. Both Silkens and Ibizans are sighthounds though, so you're not far off.

#answered #anonymous #silkens are a new breed they were developed (probably not the right term for it) in the late 80's early 90's #while sighthounds as a whole are some of the oldest surviving dog breeds #some have been around for thousands of years and changed very little #Machete's canon setting takes place in late 16th century so Silkens (or Whippets that were used to create them) wouldn't have been there #this is getting into splitting hairs territory but in dog society different breeds aren't really treated as distinct separate categories #like 99.9 % of the population is varying levels of mixed #Machete isn't a purebred but for clarity's sake I tend to just overlook that fact

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hyacinthsdiamonds · 7 months ago

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Ted saying that no driver has had this level of attention on them since Michael Schumacher...

Gentlemen, a short view into the past; Max's debut season, his Red Bull debut, the literal rule changed as a result of his debut in the sport... oh and everyone and their mother calling Kimi Max 2.0 and Toto's second chance at signing debut!Max since he failed the first time around...

#max verstappen #f1 #formula 1 #formula one #the sky sports commentators were literally clutching their pearls when max debuted 😭✋️#and practically screaming crying throwing up after the red bull switch was announced #gleefully questioning whether he was ready for it #him then winning his debut red bull race was chefs kiss #also... you can't really compare the attention schumi got #we've seen glimpses of it no question with the attention max & charles get #especially Charles as he is the predestined son of ferrari #ferrari is a religion after all #but schumi was on a whole another level #i can see max & charles reaching and exceeding it #but it was an insane level of attention #in the peak of paparazzi #the 90s and early 2000s were something else #not to say it's gotten better because it really hasn't but the way its done has changed #adapted to better suit the world of digital media so to speak #schumi was a cultural phenomenon to a lot of people including baby me he was f1 he was ferrari #i'ma stop before i start writing an essay about how Michael was F1's Diana because i feel thats where my head is at the moment lmao #also not ted also forgetting seb #my man got a penalty 6 seconds into f1 career 😭✋️#and was quickly dubbed the crash kid #max was crashtappen #max seb michael were all labelled aggressive #seb & michael only got appreciation when they were leaving/ when they left the sport #the history book on the shelf is always repeating itself

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mango-mya · 6 months ago

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Rip Elora you would have loved orange tinted frameless sunglasses

#she would fw early 2000s vixen looks HEAVILYYYYYY #i also kinda based her human form off of Aaliyah's 90's-2000's styles too lol #been meaning to draw her in those types of outfits for a while grr #ermmmmm maybe she'd wear this to a party? like if she were to ever go to one of Awesome's parties this is what she'd wear #GIGGLE elora i love uuuuuuuu she's like my own personal dress up dolly #i get to draw her in outfits i wanna wear 😼 muehehehehehehe 😼😼😼😼😼#wander over yonder #woy oc #woy ocs #my art

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sunflowerinthemoonlight · 12 days ago

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I wish I could translate that feeling of stumbling across barely functioning early internet fanfiction websites and slamming face first into the wall of links to long dead sites.

The lists of yearly awarded fics long since lost to unpaid servers or canablized and defunct companies.

The heartbreak of seeing rave reviews about epic fics you'll know the name of but not the content.

I imagine it's similar but not quite the same as the elderly of our population like my grandmother. Her husband, her friends, her family members, her peers, all the people she knew in her world that she loved are gone. The only connections to the modern broader world she knew are her children and their children. No one left to corroborate her past memories.

No one left to laminate in a specific shared joy or loss like your peers can. All the things you wanted to learn from them but never had time to and now will never have the access to.

It's like a wall of evidence of joy you can see that was once there but is now long gone and you will almost definitely never know again.

#Fanfiction #Old internet #Wish I were a writer and could translate the sensation better but a few ill placed concussions saw to that #FF #Loss #Yes this is about the farscape fandom #But for many older fandoms as well #Such loss #How do some sites continue in their early 00's and like 90's form still and others just poof #How much more connected it felt when we still hid behind usernames on forums #I miss you early internet #I'm not trying to come off as self centered when talking about my gmas connections #She's a Brooklyn girl living in a small community down south full of people mostly younger than her #It's something she repeats regularly #All these authors that will never know the impact their fic made on a random stranger that came across it 23 years later #Lost passwords. Forgotten usernames. Lost memories of existence away.#Like dancing alone in a room full of ghosts #And you just hope they don't turn off the light for good before you're done

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astramachina · 4 months ago

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kid me wanted to work at radio shack soooo badly dude i'm starting to see a pattern emerging in a lot of my current era of OCs

#texts.#like yeah okay i'm not an idiot i can see the correlation between my current fandom #and growing up in the early 90s where fridays religiously meant: pizza hut -> mall (radio shack - arcade - blockbuster)#s i g h i am not immune to nostalgia baiting.#but radio shack! my grandpa built all sorts of tech so i went there a lot to pick up bits and bobs of the pc variety #but this also coincided with the height of state of the art RC cars #and employees were allowed to fuck with people passing by the store.#i just thought it was so cool.

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girl4music · 2 years ago

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Another reason to watch Buffy and Charmed in this day and age. You’ll discover 90’s/early 2000’s music - which is a hell of a lot better than music today.

TV shows today do not include live music - with a setting actually dedicated to it like The Bronze and P3.

That was a 90’s/early 2000’s thing that’s missed.

#buffy the vampire slayer #the bronze #charmed #p3 #music #we’re lucky we still get soundtracks and scores #that’s another reason why musical episodes feel so left field in TV shows today #it’s not just that 90’s/early 2000’s TV shows were versatile and campy enough to sell it #there’s no appreciation for real music in TV anymore

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nutzo0001 · 1 year ago

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Anon 2000s nostalgia

In the early 2000's I finished high school and went to college. I was so stressed out, and in many ways very stupid, and didn't appreciate it at the time. But god do I wish we could go back. Pop culture seemed so dumb, but today it's even dumber. The post 9/11 world seemed so dire, but today things feel even worse. The Patriot act was the height of tyranny! But it was just a stepping stone to even more authoritarianism. --- You know one thing I really miss? When most people still understood how important freedom of speech was! I think it was the height of free speech in my lifetime:

The Evangelical Christian Conservatives had lost the cultural power to enforce their prudishness and were mocked by comedians.

The 80's/90's PC movements from the leftist academics had not gained any traction, and were mocked by comedians.

People who got themselves all worked up and offended by things were rightfully mocked as the weak morons the are.

It was "anything goes" when it comes to comedy, horror, political discourse. And everyone recognized it as a good thing.

Xbox live voice chat.

But then at some point it seems like the progressives realized that the Christians Conservatives didn't have the power to censor anyone anymore, and that was the signal that the left no longer had to pretend to care about free speech. Thus began an ever growing snowball of political correctness which continues to this day and busted open the doors for all sorts of impending speech controls in the name of bullshit like "misinformation", "disinformation" and the new term they made up as an excuse to censor verifiably true things: "malinformation".

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Dude you nailed it. You absolutely nailed how I feel about the 2000s. I also finished high school and also college in this decade. Our mid gen Y generation was raised on this idea that there were these conservative blockheads running the culture. We were raised to be so sensitive to it. At some point the progressives realised they completely won the culture war long ago, and over the next decade and a half went rampant with their authoritarianism. So while I miss the aesthetics of the 2000s, the risk taking innovative tech that wasn't too invasive in life, my youth at the time. The thing that sticks out the most is both sides of the political divide could respect each other's free speech. It went beyond that too, don't we miss when everything didn't have to be political?

#It went beyond that too #don't we miss when everything didn't have to be political?#The Evangelical Christian Conservatives had lost the cultural power to enforce their prudishness and were mocked by comedians.#The 80's/90's PC movements from the leftist academics had not gained any traction #and were mocked by comedians.#People who got themselves all worked up and offended by things were rightfully mocked as the weak morons the are.#It was “anything goes” when it comes to comedy #horror #political discourse. And everyone recognized it as a good thing.#Xbox live voice chat.#2000s #early 2000s #2000s nostalgia #nostalgia #culture #takes #Dude you nailed it.#You absolutely nailed how I feel about the 2000s. I also finished high school and also college in this decade.#Our mid gen Y generation was raised on this idea that there were these conservative blockheads running the culture. We were raised to be so #At some point the progressives realised they completely won the culture war long ago #and over the next decade and a half went rampant with their authoritarianism.#So while I miss the aesthetics of the 2000s #the risk taking innovative tech that wasn't too invasive in life #my youth at the time. The thing that sticks out the most is both sides of the political divide could respect each other's free speech.#But then at some point it seems like the progressives realized that the Christians Conservatives didn't have the power to censor anyone any #and that was the signal that the left no longer had to pretend to care about free speech. Thus began an ever growing snowball of political #“disinformation” and the new term they made up as an excuse to censor verifiably true things: “malinformation”.

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deep-spacediver577 · 2 years ago

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Skulker: "That technology: so sleek, so...advanced."

Me:

*Flashbacks*

#DSD577 #PetPeeve #Danny Phantom #''advanced''?#WTF is he talking about?!#bro the GZ has way more ''advanced'' tech then Earth does at this time era!#Okay... let's think about the time point the show was set it #the late 90's or early 00's #was he under a rock of something?#I know most of the crap is from the third season...#but NOT the first two examples #I wanted to put Walker's shock-collar! but as advanced as it looked those things are from the 50's/60's #it was just a ''supernatural'' twist on the concept #Also...#I'm self aware the Urban Jungle bits were just cracks at the voice actor present within the Ep #yes... I'm using the SAME meme again

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heir-of-the-chair · 5 months ago

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What- what year is all this from? That’s terrifying

When I was little I had an irrational fear of when you tried to turn off your Windows XP and the screen would gradually turn Grey as you choose which power option to enter

That shit was SCARY!!!

#the 90’s? early 2000’s? idk how many people even had computers in the 90’s I was born in 2004 #all the computers I’ve ever had in my house were various levels of clunky to actually good lap tops #this. this is scary.

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vaugarkel · 7 months ago

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Excuse me while I go make a playlist for my day tomorrow!! This got me remembering all kinds of random songs!!

it bothers me that you often don't really hear about people having a "favorite album" the way they might have a favorite movie or favorite video game

#late 90’s and early ‘00 soundtracks were my life #2 Fast 2 Furious #Step It Up #Take the Lead #Wild Wild West #Romeo Must Die #Space Jam #The Lion King #8 Mile #Juno #Pocahontas

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schadenfreudich · 8 months ago

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That Audi is over 30 years old???

#really just means it's probably from the early 90's but like???#the h on german license plates are great. because sometimes a car and it's apparently over 30 years old #and now you're realizing your perception of an old car is very different from reality #possibly only the case if your father has been a car dealer since before you were a toddler #like. what do you mean cars i. a 24 year old. have seen so often as a small child. are over 30 years old?#cars that were already 10-15 years old when i was a child? imagine that #-guntram

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communist-octoling · 10 months ago

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its always so wierd seeing those "90's kids nostalgia" compilations on like youtube because i was born in 2007 and can relate to alot of those. but then again i grew up poor so :/

#and by grew up poor i mean still poor #its especially infuriating when those compilations include like cartoons from the late 00's and early 2010's #like bitch 90s kids were adults by then thats genz through and through #it also didnt help i grew up in the south which is like the poorest region in the usa #so in case you were wondering thats why i hoard trash #its so funny looking back at my childhood and realizing that it my family was veeerrryyyyy white trash #we still are lol #not both my sets of grandparents and multiple of my aunts and uncles and my parents being divorced #and my grandma lived in a trailer park until like 6 or 7 years ago when she moved to upstate new york to live with my aunt #theres is so much more shit that has gone on in my family #if you want to here more about my redneck family lore let me know because there is sooo much to tell

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fostersffff · 10 months ago

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