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Two passions of mine are lists and family trees/next generations. One of my bigger gripes with the Fandom Wiki is that they will put absolutely everything to be a character category... aside from “next generation”...
So, I’m making my own list of next generation characters from all over the multiverse. Which is ungrateful, to be quite frank, due to how hard they are to find if you haven’t met them personally in a comic yet.
Which brings us to this post. Consider it a WIP as well as an ask for help. If you are as interested in next gen characters as I am, look at the shiny list! If you have read comics including next gen characters not listed here, please tell me the source and name so I can add them!
(Listed in braces behind are home Earth and continuity; if nothing is listed, it’s a child from the main continuity. Also, the list is in alphabetical order by hero alias, so if you want to just check a particular hero, that’s where you’ll find them.)
Children of Aquaman / Arthur Curry / Orin
With Mera:
Arthur Curry Jr. (New Earth main continuity; dead and also erased)
Arthur Joseph ‘AJ’ Curry (New Earth main continuity; erased)
Andrina ‘Andy’ Curry (main continuity since Rebirth)
Arthur Curry Jr. (Earth-12; Batman Beyond; listed separately because this one does not die in infancy but lives to be an adult)
Marina/Mareena Curry (Earth-12; Batman Beyond)
Eldoris Curry (Alternate Future; Justice League: Legacy)
Artur (Earth-16; Young Justice cartoon)
Children of Aqualad / Garth
With an unnamed mother:
Tula (Earth-22; Kingdom Come)
With Dolphin:
Cerdian (New Earth main continuity; dead and also erased)
Children of Batman / Bruce Wayne
Adopted Children:
Richard ‘Dick’ Grayson
Jason Todd
Timothy ‘Tim’ Drake
Cassandra ‘Cass’ Cain
With an unnamed mother:
Bruce Wayne Junior (Earth-3839; Batman/Superman: Generations)
With Diana Prince:
Stephanie ‘Stevie’ Trevor (Earth-3839; Batman/Superman: Generations; stepdaughter, biological daughter of Steve Trevor)
With Talia al Ghul:
Damian Wayne
Ibn al Xu’ffasch (Earth-22; Kingdom Come)
Athanasia al Ghul (Earth-49; Injustice)
With Selina Kyle:
Helena Wayne (Earth-2/Earth-203/Unnamed Earth of Batman/Catwoman)
Aion (Alternate Future; Batman in Bethlehem)
With Kathy Kane:
Bruce Wayne Junior (Earth-154; Super-Sons)
Stepchildren, with Harley Quinn:
Bryce Quinzel (Earth-616; White Knight)
Jackie Quinzel (Earth-616; White Knight)
Due to Amanda Waller’s cloning of his DNA:
Terrence ‘Terry’ McGinnis (Earth-12; Batman Beyond)
Matthew ‘Matt’ McGinnis (Earth-12; Batman Beyond)
Children of Batwoman / Kate Kane
With Renee Montoya:
Jason Todd (adopted; Earth-24; Bombshells)
With Maggie Sawyer: Unnamed Daughter
(Earth-24; Bombshells)
Children of Black Lightning / Jefferson Pierce
With Lynn Stewart:
Anissa Pierce
Jennifer Pierce
Jacob Pierce (Earth-118; Dark Knights of Steel)
Children of Bumblebee / Karen Beecher
With Malcolm Duncan:
Rhea Malia Beecher Duncan (Earth-16; Young Justice cartoon)
Children of Cyborg / Victor Stone
With an unnamed mother:
George Marvin Stone (Alternate Future; Justice League: Legacy)
Children of the Flash #1 / Jay Garrick
With Joan Williams:
Judy Garrick (retconned into the main continuity as of The New Golden Age)
Bartholomew ‘Barry’ Allen (Arrowverse; The Flash TV show; Jay Garrick and Henry Allen as well as Joan Williams and Nora Thompson are confirmed to be doppelgängers, technically making Barry the child of Jay/Joan)
Children of the Flash #2 / Barry Allen
With Iris West:
Dawn Allen
Donald Allen
Nora Allen (Arrowverse; The Flash TV show)
Bartholomew ‘Bart’ Allen II (Arrowverse; The Flash TV show)
With Jessica Cruz:
Jason Allen (Alternate Future; Justice League: Legacy)
Jenny Allen (Alternate Future; Justice League: Legacy)
Nora Allen (Alternate Future; Justice League: Legacy)
Children of the Flash #3 / Kid Flash / Wally West
With Angela Margolin:
Iris West (Earth-22; Kingdom Come)
Bartholomew ‘Barry’ West (Earth-22; Kingdom Come)
With Linda Park:
Iris ‘Irey’ West II
Jai West
unnamed/unborn baby
Children of the Green Arrow #1 / Oliver Queen
Adopted:
Roy Harper Jr.
Mia Dearden
With Chloe Sullivan:
Jonathan Queen (Earth-167; Smallville TV show)
With Dinah Laurel Lance:
Connor Queen (Earth-49; Injustice)
Laurel Queen-Lance (Earth-11)
Olivia Queen (Earth-22; Kingdom Come/Earth-11)
With Felicity Smoak:
Mia Smoak-Queen (Arrowverse; Arrow TV show)
With Samantha Clayton:
William Clayton (Arrowverse; Arrow TV show)
With Shado:
Robert Queen Jr. (New Earth main continuity; erased)
With Sandra Hawke:
Connor Hawke
Children of the Green Arrow #2 / Connor Hawke
With presumably a version of Bonnie King:
Cissie King-Hawke (Earth16 - comics-verse, not cartoon verse, so the continuity of The Just)
Children of Harley Quinn / Harleen Quinzel
With an unnamed partner:
Unnamed Daughter (Earth-12; Batman Beyond; mother to Harley’s grandchildren, Deidra and Delia Dennis)
With Pamela Isley:
Unnamed Child (Earth-24; Bombshells)
With the Joker:
Lucy Quinzel (Earth-49; Injustice)
Bryce Quinzel (Earth-616; White Knight)
Jackie Quinzel (Earth-616; White Knight)
Children of Nightwing / Robin #1 / Dick Grayson
With Barbara Gordon:
John Thomas Grayson (Earth-2)
James ‘Jimmy’ Grayson (Earth-616; White Knight)
With Koriand’r:
Mar’i Grayson (Earth-22; Kingdom Come)
Jacob ‘Jake’ Grayson (Alternate Future; The New Order)
With Unnamed Mother(s):
Elainna Grayson (Earth-12; Batman Beyond)
Thomas Grayson (Alternate Future; Generation Lost)
Children of Red Arrow / Arsenal / Speedy / Roy Harper
With Jade Nguyen:
Lian Harper
Children of Supergirl / Kara Zor-El
Adopted:
Lucy (Unnamed Earth; Last Daughters)
With Brainiac-5:
XTC (Earth-22; Kingdom Come; inofficial name of the character)
With Clark Kent (in-vitro):
Kara Junior (Unnamed Earth; Created Equal)
Children of Superman / Clark Kent / Kal-El
With Diana Prince:
Bruce Kent (Unnamed Earth; Distant Fires)
Jonathan Kent II (Earth-22; Kingdom Come)
Three more unnamed children (Earth-22; Kingdom Come)
Jonathan Kent II (Earth-686; Dark Knight Returns)
Lara Kent (Earth-686; Dark Knight Returns)
Unnamed son (Unnamed Earth; Act of God)
Zod-Ur (Earth 12; Batman Beyond; though he is the biological son of E12!Diana and E50!Clark and fostered by E12!Clark)
With Linda Danvers:
Ariella Kent (New Earth main continuity; erased)
With Lois Lane:
Jonathan Samuel Kent
Jonathan Kent (Arrowverse; Superman & Lois TV show)
Jordan Kent (Arrowverse; Superman & Lois TV show)
Christopher ‘Chris’ Kent (Earth-16 - again, The Just comics, not YJ; their son in YJ is a version of Jon)
Clark Kent Jr. (Earth-154; Super-Sons)
Jorel Kent (Earth-2020; Superman 2020)
Joel Perry Kent (Earth-3839; Batman/Superman: Generations)
Kara Kent (Earth-3839; Batman/Superman: Generations)
Jason White (Unnamed Earth; Superman Returns movie)
Adam Kent (Unnamed Earth; Created Equal)
Hunter Prince (adopted; Alternate Future; Justice League: Legacy)
Children of Wonder Woman / Diana of Themyscira
With Clark Kent:
Bruce Kent (Unnamed Earth; Distant Fires)
Jonathan Kent II (Earth-22; Kingdom Come)
Three more unnamed children (Earth-22; Kingdom Come)
Jonathan Kent II (Earth-686; Dark Knight Returns)
Lara Kent (Earth-686; Dark Knight Returns)
Unnamed son (Unnamed Earth; Act of God)
Zod-Ur (Earth 12; Batman Beyond; though he is the biological son of E12!Diana and E50!Clark)
With Steve Trevor:
Hippolyta ‘Lyta’ Trevor-Hall (New Earth main continuity; rewritten to no longer be either of their child/Earth-2)
Vicki Trevor (Earth-34; Wonder Woman: Amazonia)
Ettie Trevor (Earth-34; Wonder Woman: Amazonia)
Stephanie ‘Stevie’ Trevor (Earth-3839; Batman/Superman: Generations; also Bruce Wayne’s stepdaughter)
With Steppenwolf:
Donna of Amazon Island (Earth 2)
With the Darkness:
Hunter Prince (Alternate Future; Justice League: Legacy)
Children of Wonder Girl / Troia / Donna Troy
With Terry Long:
Jennifer Long (stepdaughter; New Earth main continuity; dead and also erased)
Robert Long (New Earth main continuity; dead and also erased)
Children of Zatanna Zatara
With John Constantine:
Zatara II (Earth-22; Kingdom Come)
Raven (adopted; Earth-24; Bombshells)
#Next Generations#Bruce Wayne#Diana Prince#Clark Kent#Arthur Curry#Oliver Queen#Barry Allen#Wally West#Jay Garrick#Zatanna Zatara#John Constantine#Harley Quinn#Roy Harper#Garth#Dick Grayson#Connor Hawke#Jefferson Pierce#Kate Kane#Karren Beecher#Malcolm Duncan#Donna Troy#Victor Stone#Kara Zor-El#DC Comics#tagging every hero whose kids are listed
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Confession: ever since I found your next gen blogs I fell in love with it and started making up my own characters and storylines and such. And every so often I come inside the ask box ready to share a headcanon, or a character idea, and I chicken out because this is your story. I'm just a random fan. So even though I'm timid about sharing my own stories or versions of this. I just want you to know what you do is an inspiration to somebody.
this is so sweet and unexpected omg
i forget exactly why we started doing next gen stuff (i think Anna made a future will and zoe photoset when zoe came into the show and kayla wrote a fic about will and zoe and we decided to build off that) and it has grown so much and 99% of it all has been us just wanting to have fun and create a happier world for the arrowverse characters and 5 years later it has developed into nearly 200 original characters
so hearing that it's inspired you and you enjoy the posts makes my whole week you have no idea i love these characters so much
as for your headcanons, please share ! i personally love hearing what goes on in other people's heads when it comes to creation
#i understand the timidness i have huge social anxiety but we don't bite feel free to tell me about the headcanons#i need to work on so many next gen posts this week#along with writing the origin story for how savannah morgan (a texan) ended up in star city with her uncle#so i'll be around#anonymous#asks
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Hi! I've been making my way through your Neighbours and Butterflies series since you posted a snippet of Chrysalis, and I'm really enjoying it!! I’ve just finished Rampage now. All the references and extra characters you've woven in—Frost, Black Lightning (!!), Oliver (!!!)—mental health being acknowledged (!!!!) (I love the Arrowverse shows, but they're. not the best in that regard :/). I also love how you've written Eobard. And Singh knowing!! 1/3
I really like how you’ve written that whole story with the old captain and Ralph!! I’m not the biggest fan of salt, but I understand it here, and really appreciate how you've handled Joe (/gen! I really hope that doesn’t come across as offensive!) Oh, and Roy Bivolo!! (clarifying Bivolo because we have like three Rays and two Roys) I loved that episode in canon mostly because of the crossover (read: the Olivarry! :D), but I really liked how you’ve characterised him here and developed him. 2/3
I think the backstory you’ve given him is really cool too!! The only tiny thing I didn’t like was his use of the term “Asperger’s”, as that’s a bit outdated. (Again, I really enjoyed the fic and your worldbuilding and hope I’m not being too rude by saying that! /g) Anyway, thank you for writing and sharing this lovely series; I’m off to read the next parts! ♡♡♡ 3/3
I completely forgot to say that Len finding the bugs is so fascinating!! (and for anyone reading this, I'm talking about cameras and microphones, not insects!) ♡
Took me a bit to get around to these, but first off thank you so much for all the lovely compliments Anon. :D It's always great to hear from someone who enjoy's my fics.
I think one of the things I really enjoyed about the Arrowverse was how interconnected it all really feels? It was a bit stilted at first and took some growing into, but they took something that I previously associated the most with Star Trek or CSI - an interconnected tv-show verse - and really set the bar high. So it's always fun for me to try and maintain that interconnection in my fics.
And yes, so many Rays and Roys in these shows. And the number of Noras in the Arrow-verse... or even just on The Flash alone. They've definitely averted the one Steve limit, that's for sure. :D
Joe is definitely one of those characters that I love, but sometimes in a bit of a tough love sort of way since the man does have his flaws that he struggles with. And I do like to give Barry and Iris the space to call him out on those, which can be a bit of a balancing act to write sometimes. But ultimately what I like about him so much is that he genuinely loves his children and wants the best for them - so he expects the best of himself in being there for them. It doesn't always work out and sometimes he goes a little too far in one direction or another (overprotectiveness with Iris, being too much of a friend than a father w/Wally at first) but how much he loves his kids is just really nice to see. And this series in particular was one where I wanted the low points of his S1 behavior called out with while giving him plenty of space to learn from his mistakes and actively do better. Writing his PoV for the Thanksgiving fic was a lot of fun.
With Roy Bivolo, I think if I were to write that fic now then I'd leave out the word 'Aspergers'. I know more about it's history now and... yeah. Not great. It's something that I might address later with editing. Or I might address it in universe? But... i'm more likely to edit and leave a note about it. My reasoning at the time was that when Roy most likely would have been diagnosed, it's a term that would have come up as part of his autism diagnosis - if not the official diagnosis itself. I wanted to show Roy's experiences with autism as being notably different from Jerrie's once I finally have her show up - admittedly not for a while - and to have part of that being their experiences with being diagnosed itself. And while that still stands... I can still have them demonstrate their varied experiences as being diagnosed-autistics (Hartley is definitely undiagnosed but he masks too well for his own good and I haven't actually mentioned that in text yet and dunno when I will) without having to continue using the term aspergers. So thank you for reminding me that I do need to figure that out when I return to this series.
Len finding the bugs was a lot of fun for me to write. I knew I wanted to give Len more to do in the series, but also that a bit of a teaser/cliffhanger would be fun to do too. (I am a bit of a mad scientist cackling maniacally when I write cliffhangers. ^_^ ) And that epilogue scene was an excellent place to indulge both impulses. There's also now a direct line from Len finding those bugs to Len deciding he needs to do more to protect Barry and that'll be something Barry both appreciates and is annoyed by in turns as the series progresses.
#kitkatt0430 answers#kitkatt0430 rambles#thanks again anon#and thanks for giving me a chance to ramble on about this series#it's been on hiatus for a while but i do still have a lot of plans for it
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arrow | she/her | isfp | hobby oc creator | a menagerie of ocs | no plans for fics
main blog: @unfortunate-arrow
⤷ find hp/wizarding world & bridgerton: next gen ocs, follows, and likes there
General Tags:
⤷ my aesthetic • my character profiles
Other People’s Amazing Work:
⤷ dividers • aesthetics • ocs
𝐀𝐑𝐑𝐎𝐖𝐕𝐄𝐑𝐒𝐄: 𝐍𝐄𝐗𝐓 𝐆𝐄𝐍𝐄𝐑𝐀𝐓𝐈𝐎𝐍 𝐎𝐂𝐒
An AU of the Arrowverse where the multiverse wasn’t destroyed, both Zaris were able to exist outside of the totem, Ronnie Raymond and Earth-1!Laurel Lance are permanently alive, and Oliver Queen was relieved of his duties as Spectre in 2022 by another earth’s Oliver Queen, who had lost everything and everyone.
Abigail “Abby” Cohen-Stein
Natalie “Nat” Constantine
Ethan Goldberg
Alyssa Harper
Roberta “Bobbi” Harper
Brian Hart
Henry B. Heywood
Sonia Heywood
Diana “Di” Lance-Sharpe
Quincy Lance-Sharpe
Rebecca “Becca” Lance-Merlyn
Quinley Lance-Merlyn
Carson Palmer
Tristan Palmer
Elowyn “Ellie” Palmer
Thomas “Tommy” Queen
Adalyn “Ada” Queen
Lucas Queen
Elena Ramon
Lizzie Raymond
Albert “Al” Raymond
Asa Watanabe
Raiden Watanabe
Joseph West-Allen
Ben West-Allen
Dawn West-Allen
Morgan West-Wells
Canon Character Interpretations
⤷ Ronnie (Cohen-)Stein • Connor Hawke • JJ Diggle • Sara Diggle • Martina Jackson • William Clayton • Mia Smoak-Queen • Nora West-Allen • Jenna West
𝐃𝐈𝐒𝐍𝐄𝐘’𝐒 𝐃𝐄𝐒𝐂𝐄𝐍𝐃𝐀𝐍𝐓𝐒 𝐎𝐂𝐒
Caroline Darling | intro
Arianna Fitzherbert | intro
Nova Fitzherbert | intro
Percy C. McLeach | intro
Kalani of Motunui | intro
Molly Poppins | intro
Timothy “Tim” Radcliffe | intro
Jean Radcliffe | intro
Nicola Radcliffe | intro
Julia Radcliffe | intro
Ian Radcliffe | intro
Edward Radcliffe | intro
Harriet Radcliffe | intro
𝐆𝐈𝐋𝐌𝐎𝐑𝐄 𝐆𝐈𝐑𝐋𝐒 𝐎𝐂𝐒
Delaney Ballard
Ricky Gilmore
Levi Powell | intro
Plot Bunnies
⤷ Josh Ellis • Aaron Weatherford
𝐆𝐎𝐓𝐇𝐀𝐌 𝐎𝐂𝐒 (post-series)
Will Gordon — jim & lee’s son
Canon Character Interpretations
⤷ Barbara Lee Gordon • possibly other batkids
𝐌𝐂𝐔 𝐎𝐂𝐒
Grant Barnes — bucky’s son
Jo Rogers — steve & peggy’s daughter
Jamie Rogers — steve & peggy’s daughter
Carter Rogers — steve & peggy’s son
Riley Wilson — sam’s daughter
Canon Character Interpretations
⤷ Cooper Barton • Lila Barton • Nate Barton • Morgan Stark
Plot Bunnies
⤷ Dani Watson
𝐍𝐀𝐑𝐍𝐈𝐀 𝐎𝐂𝐒
Joseph Mallon | intro
Plot Bunnies
⤷ Aoife, daughter of Ramandu • Emily Bastable • Charlotte Thompson • George Thompson
𝐏𝐉𝐎𝐕𝐄𝐑𝐒𝐄 𝐎𝐂𝐒
Valentina “Val” Flores | intro
Ivy Gao
Eloise Kittredge | intro
Landon McCallister | intro
Florian Mostyn
Harmony Reyes
Arlo Stanhope
𝐒𝐓𝐀𝐑 𝐖𝐀𝐑𝐒: 𝐓𝐇𝐄 𝐒𝐄𝐐𝐔𝐄𝐋𝐒 𝐎𝐂𝐒
Maddox Solo | intro
Tullia “Tully” Nash | intro
𝐒𝐓𝐑𝐀𝐍𝐆𝐄𝐑 𝐓𝐇𝐈𝐍𝐆𝐒 𝐎𝐂𝐒
Isaac Mayfield | intro
Missy Sinclair
𝐏𝐋𝐎𝐓 𝐁𝐔𝐍𝐍𝐘 𝐎𝐂𝐒
Bridgerton
⤷ Martha Barrington • Susannah Baxter • Alex Rokesby • Liza Stickland • Robert Wynn
Heartstopper
⤷ Theodore “Ted” Ainsworth
Ted Lasso
⤷ Megan Armstrong
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Arrowverse Next Gen : 2044!
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Hi, pls tell me more about the other kids in the arrow next gen au! also, does vivian have siblings/a best friend/is she gay?
so currently viv does not have any siblings(could change in the future idk), tho she does have a cousin, Mia, who is Thea & Roy’s kid. best friend wise is probably the diggle kids (John Jr, and Ollie), but she really gets along well with most of the other kids. sexuality wise im not positive about I just know she Likes Girls and Isn’t Straight
as for the other kids so far I have 15 (including viv), 9 of them make up the “new legends”. those nine are Viv, Ollie, Angie, Rowan, Ty, Martie, Ronnie 2.0, Beatrix and Maisie. I’m not gonna give away their last names bc I will be releasing moodboards/aesthetics for all nine of them but I don’t currently have moodboards/aesthetics for the other six (the ones who aren’t in the new legends) so I’ll tell you a bit more about them
There’s John Diggle Jr “JJ” who is already a canon kid that I decided to keep, he is the oldest out of all of the other kids I do believe. I was originally gonna have him as a new legend but decided to have him stick around protecting Star City
Moira Harper “Mia” who is the daughter of Thea & Roy, shes close with her cousin, Viv and also both of the Diggle kids. I’m using Maia Mitchell as like a face claim for her bc she looks a lot like a Throy kid in my mind.
Moving to Central City, we have Nora Dawn West-Allen, and Joseph Don West-Allen aka the Tornado Twins. Who are the kids of Iris & Barry. They’re speedsters and that’s about all I’ve got for them so far.
Levi Snart-Ramon, who is the biological kid of Lisa & Cisco (they both were wanting a kid and the decided what the heck lets have one together as friends). I don’t have a lot for Levi but I know they probably have the Most Parents (bc Lisa & cisco both went into separate relationships).
And finally Roni Snow, who is the biological daughter of Caitlin Snow & some guy idk they’re not together anymore. Roni has cold powers like her mom but she’s still figuring them out, but eventually I think she is going to not only be able to manipulate ice/snow/etc but water itself. She also has the Biggest crush on Nora
#next gen arrowverse#next gen legends#viv lance#Vivian lance#my aus#my au#I'm gonna be posting some more of my new legends moodboards today#at least two probably so stay tuned for that#abby replies#loisjolane
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The Year in Arrow Fic, 2021
This is my third year providing some statistics on Arrow fanfiction on AO3 (see 2019 and 2020).
My data are based on weekly scrapes of recent unlocked fics tagged Arrow. The totals differ slightly from a hand count of fics on AO3 today (1,725 in my database vs. 1,613 based on a hand count) because, on the one hand, my scraping tool does not capture locked fics, but on the other hand, I have fics that were posted or updated in 2021 but have since been deleted. (The 113 fic difference is much larger than in previous years. I’ve noticed a rise in “fics” that are just requests for help locating another fic, which tend to be deleted after the searcher finds the fic, so that may explain it, although it could legitimately be that more authors are deleting actual fics as well.)
The 1,725 fics represent a dramatic decrease from 2020 (44%).
By Ship: Olicity remains the most ficced ship at 19% of all Arrow fics, although this is down from last year. Olivarry remains steady at 5%. Dinahsiren and Lauriver weren’t top-level categories last year, but from what I can see Lauriver is down slightly and Dinahsiren is down substantially. Non-Arrow fics make up 20% of all fics tagged Arrow, compared to 13% last year. I have started breaking this down into two categories: Non-Arrow for fics that focus on other shows but include Arrow characters in a supporting role, and Completely Non-Arrow, where no Arrow characters are tagged and there’s no reference to Arrow in the summary. (Completely Non-Arrow fics are filtered out and not included in my weekly/monthly posts, because they don’t deserve to be promoted to the Arrow fandom when they have nothing to do with the show.)
More statistics under the cut!
Comparing 2021 to 2020, it appears that there were declines across all Arrow ships: the number of Olicity fics dropped by 58%, Olivarry decreased 43%, and Other Arrow Ships (temporarily adding back Lauriver and Dinahsiren) decreased by 47%.
Other Arrow Ships: This category includes all fics in English not focused on one of the ships I break out separately but that do focus on what I count as an Arrow character, defined as having a major/recurring role on our show, even if they are no longer on it because of character death or shifting to a different Arrowverse show. So Sara counts, but Barry Allen does not, for example. And although the category is called “Other Arrow Ships” this is also the category where I place gen fic. Fics in this group focus on a wide range of characters, although many of the most common relationships here are alternate pairings for Oliver and/or Sara.
By Format: I also code fics into one of four format categories: one-shot, multichapter fic, one shot collection, and single-universe one shot collection (fics like Pieces of Always, where the story doesn’t necessarily flow from one chapter to the next, but all chapters are in the same universe).
For fics tagged Arrow in 2021, 51% were multichapters (872), 43% were one-shots (734), 5% were one-shot collections (86), and 2% were single-universe collections (33).
It appears that production of multichapter fics decreased less than one shots, but I think that makes sense: some one-shots are reactions to an episode or speculation for the future, and there was no new episodes this year for authors to react to.
Looking at format by ship category, foreign language and non-Arrow fics were most likely to be multichaptered, and Dinahsiren fics were least likely to be multichaptered in 2021.
As always, grad school training demands I must offer some caveats.
I hand code category and format myself; in an academic each fic would be coded by multiple coders working independently who would discuss and resolve discrepancies. I code based on the summary and tags alone, so fics with minimal information may be categorized inaccurately. Also, these statistics are for unlocked fics on AO3 only. It’s possible that locked fics and fics published on other platforms would show different patterns. It’s also possible that I have missed fics, particularly because I moved from Access to Postgres SQL this year and have had some growing pains because of it.
As always, I hope you found this interesting and inspiring to go out and create in 2022!
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You haven't seen the show in four years? Oh you lucky duck. After like, season 4, the show just went sooo downhill. It's just gotten worse, and the main reason, in my opinion, is that the stakes get bigger and more ridiculous and so do the circumstances, but the show still takes itself soo seriously. The only reason I've stuck around this long is because of Cisco(I have a vibe funko pop next to me lol) and Wells, and they recently left. I mean, I heard it took convincing to get Grant Gustin to come back for another s8. That's gotta saying something that it took convincing to get the lead actor back. This show ain't lasting much longer.
Meanwhile, Legends of Tomorrow has gotten ridiculous and crazy, but in a fun way. It doesn't take itself seriously, so you can enjoy it more. It's got gays, magic, and time travel shenanigans, what else could you want? Probably my favorite arrowverse show, def worth it.
Anyways sorry for this vent, I saw your posts about harry and cisco and had Thoughts I wanted to tell you.
thank you for these thoughts i appreciate them (/gen)
yeah my brother and i tried to watch after like s5 but it got too complicated so we kinda gave up
(UM VIBE FUNKO POP I WANT)
AND IVE BEEN MEANING TO WATCH LEGENDS OF TOMORROW BUT IM LIKE REALLY BAD AT STARTING SHOWS BUT MAGIC GAYS AND TIME TRAVEL IS VERY CONVINCING
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Laura’s Fanfic Commission Information--UPDATE 7/10/19
Hey, it’s Laura AKA genericfanatic(ao3)/dork-empress(tumblr)/nebulawriter(tumblr/twitter/insta). Why do I have so many usernames? That’s a great question for another time.
You ever think “Wow, I want to see this idea as a fanfiction, but I don’t want to write it :(” NOW YOU CAN HAVE BOTH!
I’m updating my FANFIC COMMISSIONS!!! Here is my work on Ao3, if you’d like an example of what I do (ignore spelling errors, commissioned work will be more heavily edited).
How to commission: What you’ll do is message me on tumblr’s message system if you’d like to commission something, and we can discuss details there. It can be a prompt, or an outline, or just a fleeting idea, we can work something out. Payment will be through my Paypal, which I will send you the information for once we talk.
Prices: $1 dollar per 100 words. So, if you want a 1000 word fic, $10, and so on. Keep in mind some prompts can’t fit certain word limits, so a 500 word fic is not going to be an Epic AU. Word counts are going to be rounded to the nearest hundred, unless you discuss something with me. That’s only FIVE DOLLARS for a 500 word ficlet!
What I will write: Mostly drabbles/oneshots. I love Gen fics, AU’s, OTP’s, OT3’s, Angst, Fluff, Crack, Character Deaths, Crossovers, etc. I am open to some nsfw-esque things, but I don’t know I’m the best person to come to. There are some ships I simply won’t write for (see next section), BUT I don’t necessarily have to ship something to write it for you, I know there are some rarepairs out there that could use some love.
Here is a list of some fandoms I’m familiar with/have written for
Avatar: The Last Airbender/Legend of Korra
DC (Arrowverse, Supergirl, DCEU, Teen Titans, Young Justice, JLU)
Ducktales (2017)
Game of Thrones
Good Omens
Gravity Falls
Greek Mythology
Harry Potter
Legend of Zelda
Lord of the Rings
Marvel (MCU movies/Agents of Shield/Agent Carter/Defenders/X-men)
Miraculous Ladybug
One Day at a Time
Sanders Sides
She-Ra and the Princesses of Power
Star Trek (Any series except Enterprise, and I’m catching up on Discovery)
Star Wars
Steven Universe
Stranger Things
Tales of Arcadia
The Adventure Zone (any arc)
The Dragon Prince
Voltron: Legendary Defender
What We Do In the Shadows (movie or TV)
If there’s a fandom you’d like to commission me for, but it’s not on the list, you can feel free to inquire about it. Especially if you’ve ever seen me reblog something for it before.
What I WON’T write: As a general rule of thumb, I don’t like anything that ships a villain with a hero, or anything close to abusive relationships, dub/non-con, adult/child relationships, or in/cest. I do also have the right of course to say no to something if you bring up something I hadn’t thought to put on this list. Just…be nice about it, respect my boundaries and all that.
If you’re unsure if what you want goes against these rules, feel free to ask, I’ll try not to be mean or judgmental, there are just limits to what I’m comfortable with.
If you can’t/don’t want to commission: PLEAAAAASE share this post so that others can see it! Commissions will be open until I can’t keep up with the work, check my description to see when that is.
#commissions#writing commissions#I'll try and keep this updated#this is a new post so I'll link to this#once my links are back up
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phaminator replied to your post “Like honestly Felicity could have waited about 30 seconds and it...”
This was really well said. You are wonderful at presenting your thoughts in a comprehensive and organized way. Just wanted you to know that I appreciate this post, especially after going down a dark spiral reading some very distasteful stuff about the whole situation.
Thanks. Honestly, I’m not an Olicity Fandom person or a WestAllen Fandom person. I like DCTV in general, but I only just recently got back into it. One of the reasons I stopped following DCTV mid-Arrow-S3 was actually because I didn’t like how Oliver and Felicity’s relationship was initially brought into canon-status and how it affected the entire tenor of canon and fandom. Initially, I very much preferred the fanon version of Olicity, and I liked it, but it wasn’t the only or main thing I was into.
WestAllen, on the other hand, was something I was into from the very beginning. This was, in part, because of things I had read in Young Justice fandom and about DC-meta-I-barely-understood in general about how important Barry and Iris’s relationship and family has been to the multiverse and future-time-travel-y-next-gen aspects of DC canon. I really like things like that, and I was instantly in love with their faces next to each other.
Plus, I totally do think that there were some fans (SnowBarry, which I’ve never liked in a non-platonic way but not in an anti- way exactly except about the thing I’m going to mention) who prejudged WestAllen negatively based on some unspoken or even unrealized racism. I might be wrong and totally stand to be corrected by black fans about this statement, but I feel like when you have a mixed-race couple that one does need to bear in mind how infrequently that is portrayed positively and consistently in a show. I think it does bear some sensitivity and examination, especially on the part of white fans, that we kind of self-examine our own thoughts and emotional responses to it. I am a southern American with mixed-race cousins, and I can tell you that even within my own family I have seen the frustrating, stark juxtaposition between learning acceptance and casual, blindsided but outright racism that lingers. I think that when I was initially into WestAllen (which I was from the time the pilot leaked), I was deeply uncomfortable with people who sort of preemptively decided that they liked Barry/Caitlin or Barry/Felicity (in an endgame kind of way especially) and just wanted Barry and Iris to be friends. Granted, Arrow took an entirely different route from canon and its own endgame ship plan, but an active hope that history would repeat itself given the casting move and the meta-weight of WestAllen and a lot of other facts seemed a bit suspicious and at the very least unexamined to me. Calling out an undercurrent of racism in that seems kind of reasonable to me. I’m not saying it’s impossible to ship Barry (or Iris) with anyone else without being racist, but it still seems like the kind of thing that at least has a kernel of truth and concern in it.
So, if anything, I have always been more staunchly in the WestAllen camp than in the Olicity camp. I didn’t LIKE canon!Olicity until 5x23, at least that I know of, because I haven’t bothered to see the majority of it yet because I just walked back in the door on this fandom as a whole. My WestAllen tag is way longer and a lot less picky. I reblogged them just for nostalgia and fondness even when I didn’t touch any of the shows at all. So the notion that I am somehow this Olicity-defending-WestAllen-not-respecting person is just... not based on anything even in the realm of this Earth we live on.
That said, personally, I just find the whole Olicity Fandom (instead of Arrow fans who like this ship) or the WestAllen Fandom (instead of Flash fans who like this ship) just... not for me. I have a fandom friend from another fandom whose main-fandom right now is Sterek Fandom (as opposed to Teen Wolf fandom) and this person explained to me the specific fandom lore/history reasons the Sterek fandom “broke off” from the Teen Wolf fandom as a whole and is kind of its own entity. If one is going to do that for one’s own reasons, fine, but I really wish that there were either more ready-toleration if those Fandoms with Capital F’s are going to stay in the DCTV fandom at large or that they would create their own spaces where that ship and that ship alone is the main focus. Not that they can’t interact with DCTV fandom, too, but I just don’t think there’s anything productive about a rhetorical fight club where no one with moderate or gen or multishipping leanings can interact without being in the crossfire. Plus, it’s useless for those Fandoms to fight each other if there is no overlap on accepted premises. That’s just a basic rhetorical failure. And if you’re never going to win an argument? Walk away and save your breath. It is not okay to take something that someone finds escapist refuge in and to turn it into something that is worthy of them not being afforded dignity and respect unless the way they are doing it is not granting others dignity or respect. And it’s obvious that some WestAllen fans jump in and preemptively and inarticulately harass other ship fans. (I would say it’s harassment when it’s literally just a skeptical gif and a hateful line. If you have something to articulate, see if you can argue your point. If the gif and hateful comment is all you’ve got because ti’s not worth your time, it’s also not worth your time to ruin some blogger’s day by bothering. That blogger, no matter what “trash ship” they like, is still a person with their own Real Life and Real Life Problems.) And no offense, but Olicity Fans aren’t helping themselves either by carrying around some kind of crown and torch about being the Top-Rated or Top-Trending or Main Ship of the Arrowverse or whatever. I realize it might be defensive, but it is my opinion that a ship should be enjoyed for its effects on the characters and what it means to them and how you enjoy that in a cathartic way rather than how much you are Winning over some other thing that means every bit as much to a different fan.
That last paragraph is too long but I’m not sure where to break it.
Anyway thank you so much for replying and have a lovely day!
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Your tags give me life pal 😂😂 I don't think LoT is gonna last a lot longer neither. But it feels like we're stuck with Flash some years more. (*Insert meme 'Feeling like pure shit I just want her [Supergirl] back' here*)
*lol* Thank you, I love ti amuse ;D
I feel like... LoT also has kind of... run its course? I mean they fought fucking Gods last season and did a prison-break from literal hell. I don’t think there is much more way to go and the rotating door of cast members also kind of... stopped working for me because I have a hard time caring at this point because lol why bother the character will be gone in a season or two anyway.
Like, I’d just... generally, would have preferred a fresh, new gen start post Crisis? Stargirl, setting up the Justice Society, really feels like the place to be while everything else is dying. This is where they should put their focus and that is the Earth where they should put their new shows - like Wonder Girl and also, if they could have planned ahead, instead of putting Black Lightning onto Earth Prime, putting Stargirl onto Black Lightning’s Earth so Painkiller (and, consequently, Jen) could live on there too.
A quite literal new world, where the new, young superheroes live, while the Arrow-era slowly runs its course, on its own world, and comes to a close, one show at a time. It’s why I am very opposed to these rumors/news about a Flash and Stargirl crossover because... no... don’t drag the new team onto a slowly dying franchise, let her start the next generation, a Starverse if you will.
It’d be a far cleaner cut and also... make it easier for a new generation of viewers who don’t need to feel like they now have to watch all of Flash and oh also all of... the rest... of the Arrowverse to really be caught up with all the characters, because the characters will be new and will be separate, while still existing in the same multiverse.
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Arrow on Facebook: The yearly cabin trip
#idk if theres ever been a year i didnt mention them having air issues#since creating this universe ive always made at least 1 post#miriam queen#q lance#christine merlyn#bex merlyn#ashton palmer#arrow on facebook#arrow#arrowverse#arrowverse next generation#next gen on facebook#arrow next gen#arrowverse next gen#arrow next generation
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Arrowverse Next Gen: Henry Thomas Martin Allen!
#arrowverse next gen#arrowverse next gen posts#cryokinesisdcgal next gen#arrow next gen#arrowverse#flash next gen#snowbarry#snowbarry next gen
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My Arrowverse Next Gen List [3]
Based on their parents show and then their age.
The Flash:
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Cisco Ramon + Gypsy (Cynthia):
Cindy Brie Ramon
IG; briecher
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Cisco Ramon + Gypsy (Cynthia):
Danté Joshua Parker Ramon
IG; djramon
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Barry Allen + Caitlin Snow:
Henry Thomas Martin Snow Allen
IG; hcnryallcn
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Eddie Thawne + Iris West:
Donald 'Don' Joseph Malcolm West-Thawne
IG; donthawne
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Eddie Thawne + Iris West:
Dawn Ann West-Thawne
IG; dawnthawne
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Barry Allen + Caitlin Snow:
Celeste Nora Snow Allen
IG; celestiallen
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Wally West + Jesse Quick (Wells):
Wallace Harry Wells West Jr.
IG; wwestjr
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Barry Allen + Caitlin Snow:
Layla Crystal Snow Allen
IG; snow.girl
#arrowverse next gen#arrowverse next gen posts#cryokinesisdcgal next gen#flash next gen#arrowverse#snowbarry#quickwest
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Arrowverse Next Gen: Queens
#arrow next gen#arrowverse next gen#arrowverse next gen posts#cryokinesisdcgal next gen#arrowverse#olicity#the arrow
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Arrowverse Next Gen: Valentine's Day, Part 2
#arrow next gen#arrowverse next gen#arrowverse next gen posts#cryokinesisdcgal next gen#arrowverse#olicity#the arrow
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