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liskantope · 10 months ago
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Here are a few scattered thoughts about the R word, which I'm inspired to get in writing after listening to it discussed on Arielle Isaac Norman's latest podcast episode (from December 19th; honestly as is often the case with Norman, the conversation is kind of all over the place so I'm not sure I came away with many ideas from the episode directly, this is kind of just my own completely separate thoughts on the issue).
There are few if any epithets in the English language that I find as offensive, on a purely feelings-based gut level, as the noun version of the R word that's stressed on the first syllable. Most other uses of variants of it aren't far behind either, e.g. calling something "r*tarded" just to mean "bad" (which is almost as bad as using "gay" to mean "bad") or calling someone "r*tarded" just to mean they're acting kind of dumb. For years I vaguely wished people would just stop using the word this way, and I was glad when (in just the last few years) I saw that it was becoming taboo and coming to be called "the R word".
There are other pejorative words now considered hateful enough to be taboo -- the N word is the most obvious one that comes to mind -- which I've learned to hate mainly on an abstract level (recognizing the objective fact that it's harmful) without feeling the same kind of visceral disgust. I think the reason for this is clear: I've never witnessed firsthand most of these terms (including the N word) being used in a malicious way. (I've heard the N word bandied about in a number of contexts, and have even as a white guy have at least twice been addressed with it, but I've never once even once heard it used by a non-black person against a black person with racial malice.) I'm having trouble remembering if I've even heard the F slur actually used in as a hateful invective against a gay man, although I remember homophobia being rampant throughout middle and high school and even afterwards which I think contributes to feeling a stronger gut reaction to it than I have to the N word. Whereas making fun of mental disabilities was constant within the peer culture I grew up in, something I must have witnessed hundreds and hundreds of times, whether through some variant of the R word or through gestures, imitations, or some other kind of joke. And as I knew a few people growing up with severe mental disabilities, this created a subtle discomfort inside of me that became less subtle and more pronounced by around when I was college age.
(Nowadays even saying "duh" mildly bothers me; it was used on a daily basis when I was growing up, including by me, I still hear it very occasionally even among progressive types, and I'm not sure I know of any conscious campaign against using it.)
(I'm pretty sure use of the noun form of the R word started around me when I was in second grade or so, because it couldn't have been long after I started learning classical piano which was in the first grade, and at first I found it very confusing because the closest thing in my vocabulary was the musical direction ritard which, I'm not sure I knew until much later, was an abbreviation for the Italian word ritrardando "slowing down". For whatever reason I've only heard ritard pronounced with the stress on the second syllable, which there seems to be no particular reason for in Italian phonology, but nowadays I suspect this abbreviated form isn't used in spoken conversation at all -- I participated in an orchestra recently and I noticed it wasn't used.)
All that said, I'm kind of taken aback by the implication in a lot of R-word discourse that calling an actually mentally disabled person r*tarded should also be taboo on account of being just another use of the R word carrying a similar level of offensiveness to the other uses I've mentioned. I would have thought there would be nothing particularly wrong with saying "so-and-so person is r*tarded" in a compassionate non-derisive tone: it's just naming a psychiatric diagnosis after all. Over the past decade or so, I've instinctively tended towards inserting the word "mentally" beforehand to make it sound more diagnosis-ish: "so-and-so is mentally r*tarded", or maybe (if I'm okay with sounding more stilted) "so-and-so has mental retardation". I guess I can understand the notion that other hateful uses of the various inflections of word have poisoned the word in all the rest of the contexts (maybe even in the more medical-sounding retardation form) and am all right with abiding by whatever the most relevant community seems to prefer, as long as I'm given a reasonably succinct and specific alternative which doesn't lump this particular condition in with a bunch of other things ("mentally disabled", for instance, is way too huge of an umbrella).
One last thought: it was mentioned on Norman's podcast episode (although I don't remember what if any conclusions were drawn from this) that other words such as "idiot" and "moron" were once psychiatric diagnoses and nowadays we've all kind of forgotten that and have no inhibitions about using words like that to deride people and ideas we don't like. It seems to me that if it's now deemed offensive even to refer to an actually mentally r*tarded person as "mentally r*tarded", we must be moving away from this being a formal diagnostic term, and that maybe a couple of decades from now that would nullify a lot of our justifications for the concept of "the R word", and honestly if it weren't the name for an actual condition used in my memory I might never have been bothered by it. But I suppose the real criterion is whether or not it would still be used as a casual epithet aimed at disabled people that is generally experienced as a hateful insult.
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thealmightyemprex · 1 year ago
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James Mason REview:Ivanhoe
So I was in the mood to watch the work of actor James Mason and decided to check out one of his later works Ivanhoe
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In this 1982 TV movie King Richard (Julian Glover ) has returned from the CRusades and has teamed up with Robin Hood (DAvid Robb ) to take on three knights who work for Prince John(Ronald Pickup):Sir Reginald Front-de-Boeuf (John Rhyse Davies) who wants to extort Isaac of York (James Mason ),Sir Maurice de Bracy(STuart Wilson ) who wishes to marry Lady Rowena (Lysette Anthony ) and Sir Brian de Bois-Guilbert (Sam Niel ) who is in mad lust for ISaacs daughter REbecca(Olivia Hussey )....Oh and there is a guy named Ivanhowe(Anthony Andrews),hes there too
SO I very much enjoy this movie despite it having a big flaw ....IN THAT IVANHOWE IS THE LEAST INTERESTIN?G PART .Oh Anthony Andrews plays him well,and he connects all these threads...He just isnt given enough focus .He is out of commission for most of the movie and honestly....I dont care about his story ,which is about him reconnecting with his father (Played by Michael Hordern )...PArtially cause the father is such a dick I dont care about him either ,cause the movie doesnt care either.The film is far more focused on the stuff around Ivanhowe that he feels like an after thought
That said I do like the movie.....Because the rest of it is so damn good .The action is solid from the jousting scenes to an assault on the villains castle by Richard and Robin Hood to a very eintense sword fight between Ivanhoe and Sir Brian de Bois-Guilbert.I also like that the film really focuses on prejudice ,both the feud of the Normans and Saxxons but especially the hatred Isaac and REbecca face for being Jewish
The cast is alll superb (I mean Sam Niel,Stuart Wilson and John Rhyse Davies are the villains how can I not love that),Both George Innes and Tony Haygarth bring levity as Wamba the Fool and Friar Tuck rspectfully ,Michael Hordern is appropriatly pigheaded as Cedric , Wilson and Davies are sinister ,Phillip Locke is scene stealingly evil as the leader of the Knights Templar ,ROnald Pickup is slimey and David Robb is a solid Robin Hood (He also gets the funniest line )
The best performances however go to Julian Glover,James Mason ,Olivia Hussey ,and Sam Niel .Lets Start with Niel who is a solid villain :Arrogant ,obsessive ,creepy and yet there are levels to it ,fighting genuine guilt for his actions .Julian Glover is an actor I associate with bad guys so its fun to see him as a noble king .Olivia Hussey is great as REbecca,on par with Elizabeth Taylors performance in the 1952 film.I think the scene stealer of the movie is James Mason ,Mason while associated with lets say darker parts,had great versitility and when he had the chance could make a very sympathetic characters cause he can make the audience feel his pain
Ovewralll its a fun movie,and I think its on par with the 1952 film
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scared-aquarius · 5 years ago
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Breakout Stars Who Defined This Decade as Their Zodiac Signs
*Some of these people were considered relatively famous before the 2010s but this decade they were much more relevant*
Aries
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(L to R: Daisy Ridley, Casey Neistat, Gigi Gorgeous, David Harbour, Loren Gray, Logan Paul, Liza Koshy, Zoe Sugg, Lil Nas X, Skai Jackson, Tessa Brooks, Michelle Phan, Jessica Chastain, Nathan Zed, Tyler Oakley, Sadie Sink, Jack Antonoff, Danielle Bregoli)
Taurus
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(L to R: Jojo Siwa, Sam Smith, Joe Keery, Rami Malek, Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson, Gal Gadot, Shane Madej, Alex Lawther, Adele, Mr. Beast, Noah Centineo, Joey Graceffa, Trisha Paytas, John Cena, Melanie Martinez, Gigi Hadid, TheOdd1sOut, Thomas Sanders)
Gemini
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(L to R: Emma Chamberlain, Josh Dun, Ninja, Tom Holland, Kendrick Lamar, Rebecca Black, Gotye, James Charles, KJ Apa, Danny Gonzalez, Iggy Azalea, Ryan Higa, Chris Evans, Gus Johnson, Rami Fine, Dan Howell, Fetty Wap, Link Neal)
Cancer
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(L to R: Post Malone, Jacksfilms, Ariana Grande, Markiplier, Shane Dawson, Jaclyn Hill, Sandra Oh, Drew Monson, Chloe Woodard, Elle Mills, Margot Robbie, Lana Del Rey, Lele Pons, Megan Rapinoe, Safiya Nygaard, Tana Mongeau, Luke Hemmings, Ethan Klein)
Leo
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(L to R: Jennifer Lawrence, David Dobrik, Andrew Garfield, Dua Lipa, Eugenia Cooney, Brandon Rogers, Kylie Jenner, iDubbbz, Anna Kendrick, Talia Castellano, Grav3yardgirl, GloZell, Jackie Aina, Bretman Rock, Shawn Mendes, Leafyishere, Noel Miller, Morgz)
Virgo
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(L to R: Niall Horan, Laura Lee, Tom Harlock, Jenna Marbles, Blaire White, Anthony Padilla, Jungkook, Dylan O’Brien, Liam Payne, Connor Franta, Gaten Matarazzo, Keanu Reeves, Kyle Abercrombie, Lili Reinhart, Joji, Zendaya, Alfie Deyes, Abby Lee Miller)
Libra
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(L to R: Brie Larson, Hasan Minaj, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Caleb McLaughlin, Grace Helbig, Bruno Mars, Tessa Thompson, Jacob Sartorius, Rhett McLaughlin, Nev Schulman, Donald Glover, Bella Thorne, Noah Schnapp, Cardi B, Lilly Singh, Simply Nailogical, Halsey, Kim Kardashian)
Scorpio
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(L to R: Emelia Clarke, Joaquin Phoenix, Lorde, Baby Ariel, Frank Ocean, RiceGum, Pewdiepie, Shailene Woodley, Adam Driver, Kendall Jenner, Carly Rae Jepsen, Ryan Reynolds, Drew Gooden, Jeffree Star, Cody Ko, Colleen Ballinger, Future, DanTDM)
Sagittarius
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(L to R: Pope Francis, Steven Yuen, Chrissy Teigen, Billie Eilish, Nicki Minaj, Emelia Fart, Chadwick Boseman, Hailee Steinfield, Tyler Joseph, The Dolan Twins, Sia, Ryan Bergara, Philip DeFranco, Charlie Puth, Marques Brownlee, Ian Hecox, DJ Khaled, Antonio Garza)
Capricorn
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(L to R: Finn Wolfhard, Greta Thunberg, Zayn Malik, Dave Bautista, Dove Cameron, Nash Grier, Norman Reedus, Timothée Chalamet, Quenlin Blackwell, Ross Lynch, Meghan Trainor, Louis Tomlinson, Eddie Redmayne, Jake Paul, MattyBRaps, Mac Miller, Stan Lee, Florence Pugh)
Aquarius
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(L to R: Khalid, Harry Styles, Danai Gurira, Ed Sheeran, The Weeknd, Henry Golding, Tom Hiddleston, Marina Joyce, JackSepticEye, Charlie Heaton, Sophia Lillis, Logic, Elizabeth Olsen, Will Poulter, Branden “Joanne The Scammer” Miller, Phil Lester, Tati Westbrook, Calum Hood)
Pisces
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(L to R: Millie Bobby Brown, Jordan Peele, Simone Biles, Benny Fine, Oscar Isaac, Christina Grimmie, Lupita Nyong'o, NikkieTutorials, John Boyega, Daniel Kaluuya, Ansel Egort, Keemstar, Toby Turner, Camilla Cabello, Justin Beiber, Kesha, Gabriel Zamora, iJustine)
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cipheramnesia · 4 years ago
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Op what's the podcast where they talk about hot trans ladies??
So the podcast is Gender Fluids, by Ava Smart and Arielle Isaac Norman, two stand-up comedians in Austin, Texas. Ava is a trans woman and to be honest I’m not sure what’s Arielle’s current identification, but suffice to say it’s not cis. They basically get high and talk about sex and gender and shit and since they’re both working stand up comics it’s pretty hilarious.
Before you go running off to check it out, I need to give you some caveats. First, content warning like... everything. I don’t know where to start. There’s stuff that comes up which I don’t actually know what to do with. I know some stupid shows put up jokey CW to try and sound edgy but please, please understand this isn’t exaggerating. Any triggers you have around gender, sex, death, relationships, kink, and anything tangential to them are likely to be triggered.
Also while we’re on the subject, you shouldn’t expect it’s going to be carefully monitored always punching up social justice in the style of Tumblr. For starters, Arielle is like... not conservative exactly, but has more conservative takes. And they’re both blunt (no pun intended) about what they do and don’t like, and why, and it can be both the good and the bad kind of blunt. Don’t expect to agree with or even like everything.
That said, I’ve been listening to it at work and I like it a lot. Things I don’t agree with are, for me, taking place in a comfortable space with two very fucking queer people, so I can digest it. And they usually discuss why they feel the way they do, so that’s always super interesting. For me it’s a good place to go out of my comfort zone.
And they are both legitimately fucking hilarious so a good amount of the time I’m laughing my ass off.
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wikitopx · 5 years ago
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Here are the top 500 baby name meaning!
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1. Top 500 baby name meaning
Rank Male name Female name 1 Liam Emma 2 Noah Olivia 3 William Ava 4 James Isabella 5 Oliver Sophia 6 Benjamin Charlotte 7 Elijah Mia 8 Lucas Amelia 9 Mason Harper 10 Logan Evelyn 11 Alexander Abigail 12 Ethan Emily 13 Jacob Elizabeth 14 Michael Mila 15 Daniel Ella 16 Henry Avery 17 Jackson Sofia 18 Sebastian Camila 19 Aiden Aria 20 Matthew Scarlett 21 Samuel Victoria 22 David Madison 23 Joseph Luna 24 Carter Grace 25 Owen Chloe 26 Wyatt Penelope 27 John Layla 28 Jack Riley 29 Luke Zoey 30 Jayden Nora 31 Dylan Lily 32 Grayson Eleanor 33 Levi Hannah 34 Isaac Lillian 35 Gabriel Addison 36 Julian Aubrey 37 Mateo Ellie 38 Anthony Stella 39 Jaxon Natalie 40 Lincoln Zoe 41 Joshua Leah 42 Christopher Hazel 43 Andrew Violet 44 Theodore Aurora 45 Caleb Savannah 46 Ryan Audrey 47 Asher Brooklyn 48 Nathan Bella 49 Thomas Claire 50 Leo Skylar 51 Isaiah Lucy 52 Charles Paisley 53 Josiah Everly 54 Hudson Anna 55 Christian Caroline 56 Hunter Nova 57 Connor Genesis 58 Eli Emilia 59 Ezra Kennedy 60 Aaron Samantha 61 Landon Maya 62 Adrian Willow 63 Jonathan Kinsley 64 Nolan Naomi 65 Jeremiah Aaliyah 66 Easton Elena 67 Elias Sarah 68 Colton Ariana 69 Cameron Allison 70 Carson Gabriella 71 Robert Alice 72 Angel Madelyn 73 Maverick Cora 74 Nicholas Ruby 75 Dominic Eva 76 Jaxson Serenity 77 Greyson Autumn 78 Adam Adeline 79 Ian Hailey 80 Austin Gianna 81 Santiago Valentina 82 Jordan Isla 83 Cooper Eliana 84 Brayden Quinn 85 Roman Nevaeh 86 Evan Ivy 87 Ezekiel Sadie 88 Xavier Piper 89 Jose Lydia 90 Jace Alexa 91 Jameson Josephine 92 Leonardo Emery 93 Bryson Julia 94 Axel Delilah 95 Everett Arianna 96 Parker Vivian 97 Kayden Kaylee 98 Miles Sophie 99 Sawyer Brielle 100 Jason Madeline 101 Declan Peyton 102 Weston Rylee 103 Micah Clara 104 Ayden Hadley 105 Wesley Melanie 106 Luca Mackenzie 107 Vincent Reagan 108 Damian Adalynn 109 Zachary Liliana 110 Silas Aubree 111 Gavin Jade 112 Chase Katherine 113 Kai Isabelle 114 Emmett Natalia 115 Harrison Raelynn 116 Nathaniel Maria 117 Kingston Athena 118 Cole Ximena 119 Tyler Arya 120 Bennett Leilani 121 Bentley Taylor 122 Ryker Faith 123 Tristan Rose 124 Brandon Kylie 125 Kevin Alexandra 126 Luis Mary 127 George Margaret 128 Ashton Lyla 129 Rowan Ashley 130 Braxton Amaya 131 Ryder Eliza 132 Gael Brianna 133 Ivan Bailey 134 Diego Andrea 135 Maxwell Khloe 136 Max Jasmine 137 Carlos Melody 138 Kaiden Iris 139 Juan Isabel 140 Maddox Norah 141 Justin Annabelle 142 Waylon Valeria 143 Calvin Emerson 144 Giovanni Adalyn 145 Jonah Ryleigh 146 Abel Eden 147 Jayce Emersyn 148 Jesus Anastasia 149 Amir Kayla 150 King Alyssa 151 Beau Juliana 152 Camden Charlie 153 Alex Esther 154 Jasper Ariel 155 Malachi Cecilia 156 Brody Valerie 157 Jude Alina 158 Blake Molly 159 Emmanuel Reese 160 Eric Aliyah 161 Brooks Lilly 162 Elliot Parker 163 Antonio Finley 164 Abraham Morgan 165 Timothy Sydney 166 Finn Jordyn 167 Rhett Eloise 168 Elliott Trinity 169 Edward Daisy 170 August Kimberly 171 Xander Lauren 172 Alan Genevieve 173 Dean Sara 174 Lorenzo Arabella 175 Bryce Harmony 176 Karter Elise 177 Victor Remi 178 Milo Teagan 179 Miguel Alexis 180 Hayden London 181 Graham Sloane 182 Grant Laila 183 Zion Lucia 184 Tucker Diana 185 Jesse Juliette 186 Zayden Sienna 187 Joel Elliana 188 Richard Londyn 189 Patrick Ayla 190 Emiliano Callie 191 Avery Gracie 192 Nicolas Josie 193 Brantley Amara 194 Dawson Jocelyn 195 Myles Daniela 196 Matteo Everleigh 197 River Mya 198 Steven Rachel 199 Thiago Summer 200 Zane Alana 201 Matias Brooke 202 Judah Alaina 203 Messiah Mckenzie 204 Jeremy Catherine 205 Preston Amy 206 Oscar Presley 207 Kaleb Journee 208 Alejandro Rosalie 209 Marcus Ember 210 Mark Brynlee 211 Peter Rowan 212 Maximus Joanna 213 Barrett Paige 214 Jax Rebecca 215 Andres Ana 216 Holden Sawyer 217 Legend Mariah 218 Charlie Nicole 219 Knox Brooklynn 220 Kaden Payton 221 Paxton Marley 222 Kyrie Fiona 223 Kyle Georgia 224 Griffin Lila 225 Josue Harley 226 Kenneth Adelyn 227 Beckett Alivia 228 Enzo Noelle 229 Adriel Gemma 230 Arthur Vanessa 231 Felix Journey 232 Bryan Makayla 233 Lukas Angelina 234 Paul Adaline 235 Brian Catalina 236 Colt Alayna 237 Caden Julianna 238 Leon Leila 239 Archer Lola 240 Omar Adriana 241 Israel June 242 Aidan Juliet 243 Theo Jayla 244 Javier River 245 Remington Tessa 246 Jaden Lia 247 Bradley Dakota 248 Emilio Delaney 249 Colin Selena 250 Riley Blakely 251 Cayden Ada 252 Phoenix Camille 253 Clayton Zara 254 Simon Malia 255 Ace Hope 256 Nash Samara 257 Derek Vera 258 Rafael Mckenna 259 Zander Briella 260 Brady Izabella 261 Jorge Hayden 262 Jake Raegan 263 Louis Michelle 264 Damien Angela 265 Karson Ruth 266 Walker Freya 267 Maximiliano Kamila 268 Amari Vivienne 269 Sean Aspen 270 Chance Olive 271 Walter Kendall 272 Martin Elaina 273 Finley Thea 274 Andre Kali 275 Tobias Destiny 276 Cash Amiyah 277 Corbin Evangeline 278 Arlo Cali 279 Iker Blake 280 Erick Elsie 281 Emerson Juniper 282 Gunner Alexandria 283 Cody Myla 284 Stephen Ariella 285 Francisco Kate 286 Killian Mariana 287 Dallas Lilah 288 Reid Charlee 289 Manuel Daleyza 290 Lane Nyla 291 Atlas Jane 292 Rylan Maggie 293 Jensen Zuri 294 Ronan Aniyah 295 Beckham Lucille 296 Daxton Leia 297 Anderson Melissa 298 Kameron Adelaide 299 Raymond Amina 300 Orion Giselle 301 Cristian Lena 302 Tanner Camilla 303 Kyler Miriam 304 Jett Millie 305 Cohen Brynn 306 Ricardo Gabrielle 307 Spencer Sage 308 Gideon Annie 309 Ali Logan 310 Fernando Lilliana 311 Jaiden Haven 312 Titus Jessica 313 Travis Kaia 314 Bodhi Magnolia 315 Eduardo Amira 316 Dante Adelynn 317 Ellis Makenzie 318 Prince Stephanie 319 Kane Nina 320 Luka Phoebe 321 Kash Arielle 322 Hendrix Evie 323 Desmond Lyric 324 Donovan Alessandra 325 Mario Gabriela 326 Atticus Paislee 327 Cruz Raelyn 328 Garrett Madilyn 329 Hector Paris 330 Angelo Makenna 331 Jeffrey Kinley 332 Edwin Gracelyn 333 Cesar Talia 334 Zayn Maeve 335 Devin Rylie 336 Conor Kiara 337 Warren Evelynn 338 Odin Brinley 339 Jayceon Jacqueline 340 Romeo Laura 341 Julius Gracelynn 342 Jaylen Lexi 343 Hayes Ariah 344 Kayson Fatima 345 Muhammad Jennifer 346 Jaxton Kehlani 347 Joaquin Alani 348 Caiden Ariyah 349 Dakota Luciana 350 Major Allie 351 Keegan Heidi 352 Sergio Maci 353 Marshall Phoenix 354 Johnny Felicity 355 Kade Joy 356 Edgar Kenzie 357 Leonel Veronica 358 Ismael Margot 359 Marco Addilyn 360 Tyson Lana 361 Wade Cassidy 362 Collin Remington 363 Troy Saylor 364 Nasir Ryan 365 Conner Keira 366 Adonis Harlow 367 Jared Miranda 368 Rory Angel 369 Andy Amanda 370 Jase Daniella 371 Lennox Royalty 372 Shane Gwendolyn 373 Malik Ophelia 374 Ari Heaven 375 Reed Jordan 376 Seth Madeleine 377 Clark Esmeralda 378 Erik Kira 379 Lawson Miracle 380 Trevor Elle 381 Gage Amari 382 Nico Danielle 383 Malakai Daphne 384 Quinn Willa 385 Cade Haley 386 Johnathan Gia 387 Sullivan Kaitlyn 388 Solomon Oakley 389 Cyrus Kailani 390 Fabian Winter 391 Pedro Alicia 392 Frank Serena 393 Shawn Nadia 394 Malcolm Aviana 395 Khalil Demi 396 Nehemiah Jada 397 Dalton Braelynn 398 Mathias Dylan 399 Jay Ainsley 400 Ibrahim Alison 401 Peyton Camryn 402 Winston Avianna 403 Kason Bianca 404 Zayne Skyler 405 Noel Scarlet 406 Princeton Maddison 407 Matthias Nylah 408 Gregory Sarai 409 Sterling Regina 410 Dominick Dahlia 411 Elian Nayeli 412 Grady Raven 413 Russell Helen 414 Finnegan Adrianna 415 Ruben Averie 416 Gianni Skye 417 Porter Kelsey 418 Kendrick Tatum 419 Leland Kensley 420 Pablo Maliyah 421 Allen Erin 422 Hugo Viviana 423 Raiden Jenna 424 Kolton Anaya 425 Remy Carolina 426 Ezequiel Shelby 427 Damon Sabrina 428 Emanuel Mikayla 429 Zaiden Annalise 430 Otto Octavia 431 Bowen Lennon 432 Marcos Blair 433 Abram Carmen 434 Kasen Yaretzi 435 Franklin Kennedi 436 Royce Mabel 437 Jonas Zariah 438 Sage Kyla 439 Philip Christina 440 Esteban Selah 441 Drake Celeste 442 Kashton Eve 443 Roberto Mckinley 444 Harvey Milani 445 Alexis Frances 446 Kian Jimena 447 Jamison Kylee 448 Maximilian Leighton 449 Adan Katie 450 Milan Aitana 451 Phillip Kayleigh 452 Albert Sierra 453 Dax Kathryn 454 Mohamed Rosemary 455 Ronin Jolene 456 Kamden Alondra 457 Hank Elisa 458 Memphis Helena 459 Oakley Charleigh 460 Augustus Hallie 461 Drew Lainey 462 Moises Avah 463 Armani Jazlyn 464 Rhys Kamryn 465 Benson Mira 466 Jayson Cheyenne 467 Kyson Francesca 468 Braylen Antonella 469 Corey Wren 470 Gunnar Chelsea 471 Omari Amber 472 Alonzo Emory 473 Landen Lorelei 474 Armando Nia 475 Derrick Abby 476 Dexter April 477 Enrique Emelia 478 Bruce Carter 479 Nikolai Aylin 480 Francis Cataleya 481 Rocco Bethany 482 Kairo Marlee 483 Royal Carly 484 Zachariah Kaylani 485 Arjun Emely 486 Deacon Liana 487 Skyler Madelynn 488 Eden Cadence 489 Alijah Matilda 490 Rowen Sylvia 491 Pierce Myra 492 Uriel Fernanda 493 Ronald Oaklyn 494 Luciano Elianna 495 Tate Hattie 496 Frederick Dayana 497 Kieran Kendra 498 Lawrence Maisie 499 Moses Malaysia 500 Rodrigo Kara
2. Meaning of name "Liam" and "Emma"
Liam:
Liam's name is the name of a boy of Irish origin meaning "resolute protection".
Liam originated as the nickname of Uilliam, the Irish variant of William. William is an English name from German origin brought to Ireland when the British fled England after the conquest of Norman.
The Irish began to use English names, including William, which led to the development of Uilliam and its short form, Liam.
Liam is the top US boy's name for 2018, joining the elite group of names to top the list. Liam started out as a short form of William but has long stood on his own and for several years has become one of the most popular baby names for boys.
Now it is the fastest-growing Irish name in the United States, first entering the Top 10 in 2012 and before climbing to No. 1, holding No. 2 for four consecutive years.
Emma:
Initially, a short form of the German name beginning with the ermen element meaning "whole" or "universal". It was introduced to England by Emma of Normandy, who was the wife of King Ethelred II (and by him the mother of Edward the Confession) and later King Canute.
After the Norman conquest, this name became popular in England. It was revived in the 18th century, perhaps in part because of a poem by Henry Prior Henry and Emma (1709). In the United States, it ranked third in 1880 (after Mary and Anna were omnipresent).
It declined steadily over the next century, beginning another rise in the 1980s and eventually becoming the most popular name for girls in 2008.
At this time it also experienced similar levels of popularity elsewhere, including the United Kingdom (where it began rising a decade earlier), Germany, France, Italy, Spain, Scandinavia, and the Netherlands.
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anyblame · 5 years ago
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Quinn - Diana Agron
Sam - Chord Overstreet
Dylan - ???
Emma - ???
Ryder - Nick Robinson
Hunter - ??
Maddie - ???
Luke - Peyton Meyer
Alexis - Mika Abdalla
Lila - Brec Bassinger
Riley - Ariel Martin
Leah - Chloe Lukasiak
Ian - Gus Kamp
Bentley - Nick Purcha
Zach - Jace Norman
Charlie - Mackenzie Ziegler
Beth - Tayor Swift
Alexx - Zayn Malik
Taylor / Lainey - Sophie Reynolds
Amy / Clara - Cambrie Schroder
Rory -  Pearce Joza
Parker - Tenzing Norgay Trainor
Harper - TBA
Axel - Niall Horan
Isaac - Liam Payne
Morgan - Babytard
Ronan - Rocktard 
Silas - Thomas Sangster
Roman - NEW FC
Dallas - Teo Halm
Hayden - Selena Gomez
Irwin - Ashton Irwin
Daxton - Ansel Elgort
Lauren - Sabrina Carpenter
Eli - Logan Lerman
Mackenzie - Demi Lovato
Zeus - Ethan Cutkosky
Athena - Rowan Blanchard
Allie - Bridget Mendler
Jake - Louis Tomlinson
Jack - TBA
Matt - TBA
Brock - Dylan O’brien
Stiles - Dylan O’brien
Thomas - Rocktard
Lydia - NEW FC
Scott - Corey Fogelmanis
Scout - Maia Mitchell
Ethan - Atticus Mitchell
Ewan - Jack Harries
Owen - Finn Harries
Apollo - George Shelley
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Les Miserables
April 12, 2014 - Audio
Ramin Karimloo (Jean Valjean), Will Swenson (Javert), Caissie Levy (Fantine), Keala Settle (Madame Thenardier), Cliff Saunders (Thenardier), Nikki M. James (Eponine), Samantha Hill (Cosette), Andy Mientus (Marius), Jason Forbach (Enjolras), Angeli Negron (Little Cosette), McCayla Twiggs (Young Eponine) Ben Gunderson (Grantaire), Adam Monley (Combeferre, The Bishop of Digne), Weston Wells Olson (Feuilly), Nathaniel Hackmann (Courfeyrac), Chris McCarrel (Joly), Terance Cedric Reddick (Lesgles), Max Quinlan (Jean Prouvaire), Ensemble: John Brink, Rachel Rincione, Andrew Kober, Arbender J. Robinson, Betsy Morgan, Emily Cramer, Natalie Charle Ellis, Aaron Walpole, Julie Benko, Erin Clemons, Mia Sinclair Jennes, Melissa Mitchell, Melissa O'Neil, Christianne Tisdale
Miss Saigon 
January 7, 2006 - Audio
Miriam Valmores Marasigan (Kim), Ramin Karimloo (Chris), Jon Jon Briones (The Engineer), John Partridge (John), Ariel Reonal (Thuy), Lara Pulver (Ellen), Christine Sambeli-Marquez (GiGi)
Murder Ballad
October 15, 2016 - Audio
Ramin Karimloo (Tom), Kerry Ellis (Sara), Victoria Hamilton-Barritt (Narrator), Norman Bowman (Michael)
Once On This Island
July 1, 2018 - Audio
Courtnee Carter (Ti Moune u/s), Darlesia Cearcy (Erzulie), Rodrick Covington (“Beauxhommes” Narrator/Storyteller), Merle Dandridge (Papa Ge), Cicily Daniels (“Beaxhommes” Narrator/Storyteller), Quentin Earl Darrington (Agwe), Cassondra James (Storyteller), David Jennings (Armand/Storyteller), Kenita R. Miller (Mama Euralie), Alex Newell (Asaka), Isaac Powell (Daniel), T. Oliver Reid (Tonton Julian u/s), Anna Uzele (Andrea/Storyteller), Anthony Wayne (Storyteller), Aurelia Williams (Storyteller), Mia Williamson (Little Girl), Daniel Yearwood (Beauxhomme/Storyteller)
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drepants · 5 years ago
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Good effin' show last Wednesday at the open mic Good guest comic: Arielle Isaac Norman Oh and I forgot to pic Lorenzo Short Next Wednesday! I'll getcha Lorenzo (at Little Harpeth Brewing) https://www.instagram.com/p/B1fWb4OnkX8/?igshid=ushccm9s9ns2
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themomsandthecity · 8 years ago
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Every Baby Name We Could Possibly Think Of
Naming your baby is a big decision, and with endless options, it can also be a difficult one. Whether you're going the traditional route or want something more unique (if so, read this first!) it's helpful to have a little, or a lot, of inspiration. Ahead, you'll find nearly every baby name we could think of (close to 1,000!). These aren't just random names we found in a book or concocted ourselves - they're almost all monikers we've heard being used, or we actually know someone who goes by the name. If we missed any, tell us in the comments! A Aaliyah Aaron Abbie Abel Abigail Abraham Adalyn Adam Addilyn Addison Adelaide Adeline Adley Adora Agatha Aiden Alan Albert Aleph Alexander Alexis Ali Alma Alton Ama Amanda Amaryllis Amber Ameila Amélie Amy Anders Anderson Andrea Andrew Angie Angela Angelica Anika Anna Annalise Anne Annie Ansel Apple April Arata Archie Aria Ariane Ariel Arlee Arlo Arman Arthur Arun Arwen Arya Asha Asher Aspen Atticus Aton Aubrey Audrey August Augustus Aurora Ava Avery Axel Aziz B Bailey Barack Barbara Barney Barry Beatrice Beau Beckett Beckham Becky Ben Benedict Benjamin Bennett Bentley Bernadette Beth Bette Betty Beverly Bexley Bianca Bill Billie Bingham Bishop Bitsie Blake Blue Bobby Bodhi Bonnie Bowie Brady Braelynn Brandon Brayden Brecken Bree Brent Brenton Brett Brian Briana Briar Bridgette Brienne Brig Brigham Brinley Brio Britta Brock Brody Bronwyn Brooklyn Bruno Bryan Byron C Caden Caitlin Caity Cale Caleb Calla Calvin Camari Cameron Camilla Carena Carina Carl Carmel Carol Carrey Carter Cary Casey Caspian Cat Catherine Celine Chandler Chanel Channing Charise Charlene Charles Charlotte Chase Cher Cheri Cheriann Cheryl Chevy Chip Chloe Chris Chrissy Christian Christopher Claire Clara Clark Clary Claudia Clementine Clifford Clint Clinton Clyde Colin Collins Condoleezza Connor Conrad Constance Coolidge Cooper Cora Corban Courtney Cruz Related: 100 of the Most Beautiful Baby Names D Daisy Dale Dallas Damon Dane Danica Daniel Danielle Daphne Darby Darlene Darrel Daryl Dashiell Dave David Davina Davis Davon Dawn Dean Deanna Declan Dekel Delaney Delilah Delta Dennis Denzel Desmond Dev Devon Dexter Diane Dinah Dixie Dixon Dolores Dominique Donald Doris Dorothea Dorothy Dot Duke Duncan Dwight Dylan E Easton Ed Eden Edith Edmund Edward Effie Eleanor Elena Eli Eliana Elijah Elise Elizabeth Ella Elle Ellen Ellerie Ellie Elliott Ellis Elodie Eloise Elora Elroy Elsa Elsie Embry Emerson Emily Emma Emmett Eric Erica Esme Esmeralda Esther Ethan Ethel Eugene Evan Eve Evelyn Everett Evie Ewan Ezra F Farah Fay Felix Ferris Finn Fiona Fisher Fitz Fleur Flint Florence Floyd Flynn Ford Forrest Foster Fox Frances Frank Franklin Frederick G Gabe Gabriel Gaige Gail Gant Garrett Garth Gavin Gem Gemma Gene Genesis Gertrude George Gianna Gibson Gigi Gina Ginger Gladys Glenn Gloria Gordon Grace Grady Graham Grant Grayson Greer Gregory Griffin Grover Gus Gwen Gwyneth H Hadlee Hailey Hal Halle Hank Hannah Harding Harlow Harlyn Harold Harper Harriet Harrison Harry Hart Hartley Harvey Haven Hawk Hawthorne Hayden Hayes Hays Hazel Hector Heath Heather Helen Henley Henry Hillary Honor Holden Holly Holt Hope Hubert Hudson Hugo Humphrey Hunter Hurley Hutton Related: Based Off Last Year's Trends, These 30 Names Will Be Among the Most Popular of 2017 I Ian Ida Idris Ike Imanuel Imogen India Indy Ingrid Inizio Ireland Iris Irvin Isa Isaac Isabella Isabelle Isaiah Isla Israel Ivana Ivory J Jack Jackie Jackson Jacob Jacqueline Jaden Jaelyn Jagger Jake James Jameson Jamie Jane January Jason Jasper Jaun Jax Jaxon Jayce Jayden Jeannette Jed Jeff Jefferson Jenna Jess Jessica Jessie Jill Jillian Joan Joanna Joaquin Joe John Jones Jordan Joseph Josephine Josh Joshua Joslyn Joss Joy Joyce Judith Judy Jules Julia Julian Julie Juliet Julius June Juno Justin K Kai Kaia Kale Kalinda Kane Karah Katharine Kathryn Kate Kay Kaya Kaylee Keanu Keegan Keira Keith Kellan Kelly Kelsey Kendall Kennedy Kevin Khloe Kiah Kiele Kiera Kim Kima Kimberly Kingston Kinsley Kirk Kit Kitty Knox Krista Kristen Kurtis Kyle Kylie L Laith Lake Lana Landon Lane Larissa Larkin Laszlo Laura Lauren Lawrence Layla Leah Lee Leia Leighton Leilani Lena Lennon Leo Leonard Leslie Levi Lewis Leyona Lia Liam Liana Lida Lilith Lillian Lily Lincoln Lindsay Lionel Lisa Lisette Liz Logan Lois Lola London Loretta Lorraine Louella Louise Lucas Lucian Lucille Lucy Luke Luna Lux Lyle Lyndon Lynne Related: 100 Unusual Boy Names M Mabel Mabrey Mac Macallan Mackenzie Macy Madeleine Madelyn Madison Mae Maeby Maggie Mahershala Maia Makena Malcolm Maleeya Malia Mamie Mandy Marabelle Marcus Maren Margaret Margot Mari Maria Mariah Mariam Marilyn Marin Marion Marisole Marisse Marjorie Mark Marlene Marlon Marlowe Martha Martin Mary Mason Matilda Matthew Maui Mavis Maximus Maxson May Maya McKinley Megan Melissa Meredith Merritt Meryl Meyer Mia Michael Michelle Mika Mike Mila Mildred Miles Millie Milo Moana Molly Monica Monroe Montgomery Morgan Moses Muhammad Murray Myles N Nahall Nahla Nancy Nanette Naomie Nasima Natalie Nate Nathan Naveen Naya Neil Neisa Neo Neoma Newt Newton Niall Nicholas Nick Nico Nicole Nicolette Nigel Nile Nimah Nixon Noah Noel Nolan Nora Norma Norman North Nova O Obama Octavia Olly Olive Oliver Olivia Omar Opal Ophelia Ordell Oriana Orion Orlando Orson Orville Oscar Otis Otto Owen P Paige Paislee Paloma Pandora Paris Parker Patrick Patsy Paul Payton Pearl Peggy Penelope Penn Penny Perry Pete Peyton Phillip Phoebe Phoenix Phyllis Pierce Piper Polly Poppy Porter Posey Preston Primrose Priya Prudence Priscilla Q Quaid Quincy Quentin Quinn Quinten R Rachel Radley Rae Ralph Ramsey Rayna Rayne Reagan Rebecca Reese Reeve Reid Reign Remi Renly Rex Rhea Rhett Rhys Richard Rick Riley Ripley River Rivers Rob Robert Robin Rome Romy Ronald Ronin Rooney Roosevelt Rory Rosalind Rosalynn Rosamund Rose Rosemary Ross Rowan Roy Royce Ruby Rue Ruth Rutherford Ryan Ryder Related: 100 Unique Yet Beautiful Girls' Names S Sacha Sage Sahara Saint Sam Samuel Sandra Sandy Sansa Sarah Saul Savannah Sawyer Scarlett Schuyler Scout Sean Sebastian Selena Sena Seymour Shane Shannon Shea Shelly Sherlock Sherry Shiloh Shirley Sia Sidney Sienna Simon Skyler Sloan Sofia Solo Sonia Sophia Sophie Spencer Stacy Stanley Stella Stephanie Sterling Stetson Stuart Sue Sullivan Summer Suri Susan Sylvia T Tabitha Tad Tamera Tamsyn Tanner Tara Tate Taylor Teagan Teddy Terrance Thea Thelma Theordore Theresa Thomas Tim Tina Tinley Toby Todd Tom Tony Travis Travon Trent Trey Tricia Trinity Tripp Tristan Troy Truman Turner Tyler Tyson V Valentina Valentine Vance Vaughan Vaughn Vera Vern Victor Victoria Viggo Vince Vincent Viola Violet Virgil Vivian W Waldo Walker Wallis Walter Warren Watson Waverly Wells Wes Wesley Westley Whitney Will Willa William Willow Wilson Winter Wolfe Wren Wyatt X Xander Xavier Xeno Y Yanet Yani Yigal York Yuma Yvette Z Zachary Zahir Zander Zane Zaylee Zayn Zion Zoe Zola Zooey Zora Zuma Zuri Related: These Are the Most Popular Baby Names of 2016 http://bit.ly/2kR9iwY
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Disney Channel Orders Second Season of High-Flying Animated Series "Star Wars Resistance" for Fall 2019 Premiere
[01/09/19 - 11:00 AM] Disney Channel Orders Second Season of High-Flying Animated Series "Star Wars Resistance" for Fall 2019 Premiere Plus: the mid-season one trailer, featuring a first look at a major villain from "The Force Awakens," was released today on the Star Wars YouTube page.
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DISNEY CHANNEL ORDERS SECOND SEASON OF HIGH-FLYING ANIMATED SERIES 'STAR WARS RESISTANCE' FOR FALL 2019 PREMIERE
Mid-Season One Trailer Debuts with First Look at Major Villain from 'The Force Awakens'
Disney Channel has ordered a second season of the high-flying animated series "Star Wars Resistance" for a fall 2019 premiere. The series follows Kazuda Xiono ("Kaz"), a young pilot recruited by the Resistance for a top-secret mission to spy on the growing threat of the First Order. Season one continues on SUNDAY, JAN. 13 (10:00-10:30 p.m. EST/PST), on Disney Channel and DisneyNOW. The mid-season one trailer for "Star Wars Resistance," featuring a first look at a major villain from "The Force Awakens," was released today on the Star Wars YouTube page.
The voice cast includes Christopher Sean ("Days of Our Lives") as Kazuda Xiono; Suzie McGrath ("East Enders") as Tam Ryvora; Scott Lawrence ("Legion") as Jarek Yeager; Myrna Velasco ("Elena of Avalor") as Torra Doza; Josh Brener ("Silicon Valley") as Neeku Vozo; Donald Faison ("Scrubs") as Hype Fazon; Jim Rash ("Community") and Bobby Moynihan ("DuckTales") as Flix and Orka, respectively; Oscar Isaac ("Star Wars: The Last Jedi") as Poe Dameron and Gwendoline Christie ("Game of Thrones") as Captain Phasma.
Renowned Lucasfilm Animation veteran Dave Filoni ("Star Wars: The Clone Wars," "Star Wars Rebels") created the series; Athena Portillo ("Star Wars: The Clone Wars," "Star Wars Rebels"), Justin Ridge ("Star Wars: The Clone Wars," "Star Wars Rebels") and Brandon Auman ("Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles") serve as executive producers; and Amy Beth Christenson ("Star Wars: The Clone Wars," "Star Wars Rebels") is art director.
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[01/09/19 - 02:02 PM] 3.1 Million Viewers Encounter the First Sighting of History(R)'s New UFO Drama Series "Project Blue Book" History spins the numbers for Tuesday, January 8. [01/09/19 - 12:47 PM] MotorTrend Announces 37 Hours of Live, Multiplatform Broadcast of Barrett-Jackson Scottsdale Additionally, for fans who can't get enough of the fast-paced action, MotorTrend is bringing viewers deeper inside the Scottsdale auction with daily, in-app exclusive content that explores every angle of the event both on and off the auction block. [01/09/19 - 11:00 AM] "2 Dope Queens," From Hit Comedy Duo Jessica Williams and Phoebe Robinson, Returns to HBO for a Second Series of Four Hour-Long Specials, Starting Feb. 8 Guests include Lupita Nyong'o, Daniel Radcliffe, Janet Mock, Lizzo and Keegan-Michael Key. [01/09/19 - 11:00 AM] "Mental Samurai," The First-Ever Obstacle Course for the Mind, Hosted and Produced by Rob Lowe, to Premiere Tuesday, February 26, on FOX In the series, people from all walks of life will compete, and underdogs will triumph, in the game that anyone can play, and almost no one can win. [01/09/19 - 11:00 AM] Disney Channel Orders Second Season of High-Flying Animated Series "Star Wars Resistance" for Fall 2019 Premiere Plus: the mid-season one trailer, featuring a first look at a major villain from "The Force Awakens," was released today on the Star Wars YouTube page. [01/09/19 - 10:02 AM] "Tropical Cop Tales" Makes Its First Arrest on February 1 on Adult Swim The live-action comedy series follows two burnt-out city cops when they relocate to a tropical paradise for a relaxing twilight to their careers. [01/09/19 - 10:01 AM] Nickelodeon's New Original TV Movie, "Bixler High Private Eye," Starring Jace Norman and Ariel Martin, Premieres on Monday, Jan. 21, at 7 P.M. (ET/PT) The live-action comedy follows Xander DeWitt (Norman), an inquisitive teenager who has a knack for solving mysteries, as he tackles his biggest case yet when his father suddenly disappears. [01/09/19 - 10:00 AM] Viola Davis and the Cast of "The Big Bang Theory" to Present Special Awards at the 24th Annual Critics' Choice Awards The Critics' Choice Awards will be broadcast live on The CW Network on Sunday, January 13. [01/09/19 - 09:35 AM] Video: "Trigger Warning with Killer Mike" - Official Trailer - Netflix With no due respect, "Trigger Warning with Killer Mike" launches January 18 on Netflix, taking on the economy, gang culture, religion, education, and more. [01/09/19 - 09:24 AM] YouTube Sci-Fi Comedy "Weird City" from Jordan Peele and Charlie Sanders Reveals Full List of Series Guest Stars The six-episode series will debut exclusively on YouTube Premium on February 13. [01/09/19 - 09:01 AM] Video: Trailer Debut - Margaret Qualley and Anthony Mackie Star in the New Trailer for "IO" The Netflix film follows one of the last survivors on a post-cataclysmic Earth, a young scientist dedicated to finding a way for humans to adapt and survive, rather than abandon their world. [01/09/19 - 08:24 AM] Tuesday's Broadcast Ratings: NBC Tops Demos on Disrupted Night ABC, CBS, FOX and NBC all carried news coverage at 9:00/8:00c. [01/09/19 - 08:00 AM] Video: Trailer & Key Art Debut - "Russian Doll" Premieres February 1 The Netflix series follows a young woman named Nadia (Natasha Lyonne) on her journey as the guest of honor at a seemingly inescapable party one night in New York City. [01/09/19 - 06:30 AM] Smokey Robinson to Appear on "Aretha! A Grammy(R) Celebration for the Queen of Soul," Broadcasting Sunday, March 10 on CBS The concert will tape on Sunday, Jan. 13 at 6:00 PM, PT at the Shrine Auditorium in Los Angeles. [01/09/19 - 06:00 AM] iHeartMedia & FOX Announce Nominees for 2019 iHeartRadio Music Awards This year's event airs Thursday, March 14 (8:00-10:00 PM ET live/PT tape-delayed) on FOX, live from Microsoft Theater in Los Angeles.
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Your point is well taken that, although I did lead with "Charitably speaking...", I was probably bending over too far backwards to be charitable and ignoring that a bunch of the up-in-arms parents are probably just super homophobic. And while that would imply that they must have been upset about the way things are going in schools for quite some years, it makes sense that they've chosen this moment to strike with everything they've got. (I'll suggest that parents/voters aren't divided into pro-gay people who are worried that things have gone over the top and hard-core homophobes who who've been waiting to strike with their anger for years -- there are probably moderately conservative people who were happy to let a bit of LGBT+ presence in schools slide until some of it appeared to get out of control in the last couple of years. Not that you probably disagree!) I think I have a tendency to underestimate homophobia in general, because of how very little of it reaches my radar anymore as opposed to 15-20 years ago.
While I think it's been clarified and sorted out satisfactorily in the replies, I think it's worth mentioning in a reblog that both you and someone else appeared to initially misunderstand the intent of my last paragraph, which suggests that maybe I really wasn't doing the best job of communicating (I don't know about writing like a high school debate student just trying to sound smart, as the other commenter suggested, though). So let me clarify.
I don't know much of anything about what's going on in schools of various geographic areas. It would be very hard to determine what's actually happening on a large-scale basis without conducting and sifting through a ton of very qualitative poll data. I only hear anecdotal reports, and as I tried to make clear in the second paragraph of the OP, I have pretty low confidence in any one of them being accurate, especially if (as is often the case) they come from a source pushing an anti-woke agenda.
My last paragraph was intended not to describe and argue against content I necessarily assume/imagine is prevalent in more progressive school districts, but (I suppose rather implicitly) to refer to the kind of thing that those on the conservative side seem to fear is going on, in order to say, "Look, under my proposal, you would get some LGBT+ content in schools but the content would be distinct from that."
Now that said, most of the individual things I listed in the last paragraph do strike me as quite plausibly going on in some schools, even though the frequency of such schools for each might be as low as maybe 1-5% and (particularly taken all together) they likely represent some sort of weakman or caricature.
The last thing I listed about "constantly centering everything around a scrupulosity-triggering activist mindset" is the vaguest but also something that (after possibly deleting the rather subjective phrase "scrupulosity-triggering") I'm almost certain does happen in a substantial number of schools in more liberal districts. I believe this not only because of occasional complaining anecdotes I've heard (like an actual friend -- not an IDW-ish podcaster -- describing how she pulled her son out of middle school due to a constant activist mentality being pushed on him, backed up with concrete stories about the in-class activities there), but because at least a couple of my most SJ-ish Facebook friends are themselves proudly "woke" teachers and frequently brag about how their classroom content is geared towards raising the kids to be activists (sometimes they even proudly use the word "radicalizing"!). To be clear, this is more about racial stuff than LGBT+ stuff.
The rest is based on reports that I don't put much trust in but also aren't particularly hard to believe; I just doubt that it's all that frequent. At least one of the activist-minded teachers I mentioned above does describe some of what she does as sounding awfully close to "enthusiastically pushing kids to analyze their genders and sexualities all the time"; also I heard an appreciative, non-complaining, non-anti-woke mother describe something that sounded rather like that on Arielle Isaac Norman's podcast. That along with "telling kids they can be whatever gender they want" is a constant complaint of anti-wokesters like Glenn Loury (and also it's certainly something that I increasingly gather a ton of other people would like taught to kids, framed in that kind of phrasing) but may very easily be a distortion of the statements actually uttered; I don't trust Glenn Loury / Sam Harris types to be fluent enough in the language to repeat these wordings fairly or accurately. The "what gender would you like to be now?" thing was an over-the-top adornment of mine that I probably shouldn't have included, but I think in the back of my mind I was recalling a report I heard referred to on one podcast of a preschool in which the teacher said on a daily basis, "Sit on this side of the room if you feel like a boy today and on that side if you feel like a girl today" which is most likely (and I certainly hope!) a fabrication. The activities where kids have to rate their marginalization statuses and/or be pointed out as oppressor or oppressed sound extreme but are brought up so frequently that I tend to imagine they must originate in some true story, hopefully from a tiny minority of schools; one of the reasons I don't find it entirely impossible to believe is that I actually took part in a similar type of activity run during a UU service (for the full congregation, mostly retirement-age adults but with children included) several years ago.
But yeah, I never meant to imply, and I don't assume, and others shouldn't either, that this depiction of "woke" content is anything more than a weakman. I meant to imply that I'm against it (even hypothetically) and that my proposal would exclude it.
Since the "LGBT+ content in schools" issue keeps coming up, here are some of my thoughts directly on it.
Charitably speaking, I think conservatives are afraid of a particular, narrow, modern, very SJ-ish social agenda and belief system being shoved down their kids' throats. I do have some sympathy with this concern, although I'm not sure the extent to which anything is actually being taught that I as a (more progressive-thinking) parent would object to: I do hear what I would consider disturbing stories but have little way of knowing how embellished and/or unrepresentative they are.
So anyway, a bunch of conservatives have whipped up a moral panic about it and are fighting back with legislating (what are, at least according to some) bans against talking about the existence of gay or trans people at all, or anything about race that might possibly make white kids uncomfortable in any way. Which is absolutely absurd, a "cure" worse than the (possible) disease.
(And disallowing gay/trans/queer teachers from, for instance, disclosing that they have a same-gender partner, even though it's been normalized for decades and is still permissible for a teacher to bring up their opposite-gender partner, is just outright homophobic, period. That shouldn't be too hard to see.)
I've tried reading the legislation (for instance, the so-named-by-opponents "Don't Say Gay" bill), and I'm bewildered as to what it actually adds up to or how it can even function as legislation. What a lot of it says amounts to moderate, common-sense-sounding guidelines that don't actually appear to demand that "gay" not be mentioned in any way, but it relies on phrases like "appropriate for their age group". Well, who gets to decide that? How is this legislation ever enforced or teaching ever policed based on it?
My only guesses as to what conservatives think they're doing is that (1) the laws are almost meaningless but serve as a grandstanding move meant to signal "Hey look, we're on the right side, we're doing something about it!"; and (2) since the wording of the law requires a ton of individual judgment and interpretation, perhaps in the most conservative school zones where all the people in power are sufficiently conservative it really could be used as a sledgehammer to ban ANY mention of anything they don't like.
Meanwhile, I think there could be some common-sense guidelines that allow teachers to bring up the existence of gay and trans people and allude to the issues and even (to kids above a certain age) discuss some of the civil rights battles surrounding them, without shoving any particular highly controversial political ideology down their throats. The idea is to stick with basic facts about social reality. Gay and bi people exist (at the very least, in the sense of people who choose to pursue same-sex relationships). Trans people exist (at the very least, in the sense of people who identify as a different gender than indicated by their sex at birth), and some of them choose to go on hormones or get sex reassignment surgery. Gay and trans people are people too. There has been and still is a lot of stigma against them, and there have been struggles to secure them rights for certain things -- for instance, same-sex couples couldn't get married in most places until last decade! By the way, kids, I prefer they/them pronouns. You're encouraged to think for yourselves about what that might mean and how to feel about it, but it's a preference I'm asking you to respect and you should respect such preferences among your classmates. Mr. So-and-so who teaches in the next classroom has a husband. You probably know several other gay and bi people, and they're people too. Some of you may come to identify or already identify as not straight or not cis.
Of course that won't satisfy everyone, and it can't be done in an entirely non- politically biased way, and conservatives may see plenty of reason to complain that these things are even being mentioned or that the teacher has gone as far as normalizing people who fall under the queer umbrella as human beings without at least criticizing them as having lost their way.
But it's, to my view, subtly but significantly different from very positive actions that go beyond neutrally describing reality with an underlying default of respecting others. That would include enthusiastically pushing kids to analyze their genders and sexualities all the time, telling them "You can be whatever gender you want; what gender would you like to be now?", teaching highly politicized lessons on social justice which involves students rating their degrees of marginalization and separating the room into "oppressors" and "oppressees", constantly centering everything around a scrupulosity-triggering activist mindset, and many more things.
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Before responding to the above reblogs, I want to recount a story I remembered for the first time in a while like half an hour after publishing the OP. I have a good cis male American friend who I would describe as highly intelligent and Aware Of Issues In General as well as appearing to me quite progressive-in-intent on trans issues (for instance, he wrote an article on sexual assault and pointedly and repeatedly included "and nonbinary people" in his asides about how it doesn't just affect women). Back a few years ago when I was still living abroad, he visited me on a day when I was running one of my language exchange events, and he came to the event. I mention the nature of the event only to point out that most of the other people at the event were struggling with English as a second language. One of them accidentally referred to him using the pronoun "she" and quickly corrected herself. My friend responded good-naturedly and exuberantly, with the air of slightly joking, by saying, "But 'she' works too: after all, it is 2019, you can call a guy 'she' now!"
And I was sitting there blinking in surprise, thinking, "Dude, you seem to have missed the entire point, it's not about being able to decide what gender other people are independent of their presentation, it's not about being able to call everyone whatever pronoun at your whim but the opposite of that in fact: that's why we're all being told to ask people for their preferred pronouns!" This seems related to the confusion I was describing above: is the trans movement's message that some people are a gender not matched by the physical anatomy they were born with, or is it that anyone can choose to be whatever gender they want and even choose to consider other people to be any gender? I'm beginning to gain the impression -- from the above reblogs, from other definitions I've seen thrown around on Tumblr, and also from recalling what my liberal outsider-to-the LGBTQAetc.-community friend said -- that the "whatever someone wants it to be" type variants of the notion of being trans are actually pretty common and widespread on the liberal side rather than being a conservative strawman as I've tended to assume.
Anyway, to respond directly...
@verasimile (and this applies to chrideedee too), there's a very big, IMO very crucial difference between a trans person finding it easiest to describe their own experience as "wanting to be a different gender from what I am" and making assertions about it (especially within queer spaces) framed in the first person, and someone going around making objective statements of definition like, "Being a trans [gender X] simply means wanting to be [gender X]." Because I've seen exactly that: as close to the precise words as I can recall, I specifically remember seeing someone here say, "All you need to qualify as transgender is to want to be a different gender and to like the word 'transgender'. That's it!" And, waving aside the second criterion about liking the word transgender, which is just nakedly (what I nowadays call) internal-experience-supremacy-ist, I immediately thought back to the various moments in my life I've thought I'd rather be a woman for Reasons (e.g. if I were a woman, there's no way I'd be going over a decade at a time unhappily single) and how this very much has not made me anything other than a cis man, even in those moments, in any sense of the term I've ever understood. No more did J. K. Rowling's frequent wish to be a boy growing up (for Reasons such as "then I wouldn't be the inferior gender, and my father wouldn't be disappointed in me") ever make her a trans boy, as she claims she would be in the eyes of today's trans movement.
I totally respect any trans person who describes their experience in terms of wanting to be a gender different from their assigned one rather than Actually Being that gender, and I appreciate hearing testimony like that as I'm still learning and want to keep learning. (Also, I would acknowledge that it's unnecessarily harsh for me to go around using phrases like "plainly thinly-veiled nonsense" to criticize it.) And I figure there should be spaces where queer people of various stripes can describe their experiences rawly and directly without analyzing definitions and their logical implications, provided they try to avoid ultimately confusing themselves and each other. But I find it extremely frustrating to think of the implications of universal objective statements defining of "trans" in those terms, especially if they're frequently thrown around in the hearing of outsiders and skeptics to queer culture.
@chrideedee you're probably right that many trans and otherwise gender-issues-friendly people operate according to these three definitions and at least subconsciously "know what they're doing" with regard to switching between them in an internally consistent way. Outside of that, though... *sigh* Okay, so now there are three quite distinct definitions of "woman" (as well as "man" and I would say even "nonbinary"). And people like me as well as those who are less progressive-minded and far, far less familiar with queer/gender issues have to understand today's gender discourse in terms of switching between them.
When the number one message above all others I've received in force and internalized from my exposure to the trans movement over some 8-9 years of following these issues on a daily basis, is that the main goal in terms of social attitudes (not direct policies) is for everyone to understand your first definition of "woman" as the only legitimate one. Hashtag Trans Women Are Women and all that.
And you (rhetorical "you") wonder why douches like Matt Walsh want to make entire documentaries on how people on the progressive Left can't give a coherent answer to "What is a woman?".
(The stand-up comedian Arielle Isaac Norman has a moderately obscure podcast called Gender Nonbinary, and is someone I would consider maximally trans-friendly in the most purely social sense despite entertaining a ton of unorthodox (in the eyes of modern progressivism) views on gender issues, and she was saying in one of her recent episodes that if the trans movement wants to succeed it "really needs to get its story straight". I can't remember the exact point she and her interviewee were going over that led to that comment, but I've never felt more in sympathy with it than now.)
So anyway, okay, fine whatever. We can adopt and freely use all of Definitions 1-3 above for woman/man/nonbinary. But then (again addressing a rhetorical audience) please, please FFS stop with the calling everyone who shows some deep confusion, impatience, and/or skepticism around the whole cause an inhumane monster akin to a Nazi because doesn't everyone understand by now that it's Basic Respect For Others' Humanity 101 to understand the only valid definition of gender to be Definition 1.
Again, I'm not directing any of this frustration at you, verasimile or chrideedee (both of your responses were helpful!) or at any particular person actually, but at the collective rhetorical thrust of this particular activist movement.
On ACX a few days ago there was a post on the dynamics of the academic job market (highly relevant to me) and of course at least one of the threads in the comments section turns it into culture war stuff. I want to highlight one of the comments because of its relevance to discussion I've been making here lately, and I quote from it below:
The left has a bunch of beliefs that defy biology. For example: 1. There are 50+ genders. 2. Intelligence is entirely a function of nurture, and nature (such as genetics) plays no role. 3. People who are gay are born that way (i.e. it is genetic). Anyone can choose to be trans at any time (sex is not genetic). None of these beliefs would disqualify a person from being a biology professor. They are all substantially more common, and more anti-biology, than any republican-coded example belief you gave.
Now I find most of this comment (with the possible exception of #2) completely off the mark. I don't think I need to preach to the choir by getting into why the "50+ genders" claim is a distortion of the concept of a gender spectrum based on a 7-years-out-of-date weakman. As for "people who are gay are born this way", hardly anyone on the "woke" left seems to insist on it (especially an assumption that environment plays no role), and it reflects a gay rights talking point that's more like 15 years out of date.
But the most interesting part to me, of course, is the "anyone can choose to be trans at any time" characterization of the pro-trans position.
This is good timing for bringing this up, because I was just talking about why Jordan Peterson's rhetoric seems badly twisted and confused, as he seems to be under the impression that those evil "gender theorists" behind the trans movement are all acolytes directly or indirectly of John Money and thus all believe that one's gender can be changed at will or by fiat through external coersion or something. This is as far as I can tell a complete distortion of the actual "trans ideology", but here we can see it reflected by the ACX comment, which shows that this a common "outsiders' view". (And nobody underneath that comment seems to be trying to correct the commenter's impression either.)
But as usual, I'm going to claim that we can't entirely blame misunderstandings like this on the conservative side of this culture war battle. I made an offhand remark a while back in the midst of another post about how astounded I am at seeing "being trans means you want to be a man/woman/neither" descriptive comments multiple times here on Tumblr; I called this "plainly thinly-layered nonsense" and would stand by that now. As soon as you start to pick it apart, it in fact seems to have transphobic (including from the most orthodox view of the trans movement!) implications: what, a trans woman wants to be a woman but isn't one? or does "be a woman" just mean "be viewed as a woman", because I thought that was different from Actually Being a woman? etc.
I'm willing to acknowledge and respect that there must be reasons I don't fully get about why that type of phrasing works well as a description of how many trans people feel -- indeed, someone used it to describe themself in a reblog of my just-above-linked post and if I squint hard enough I can kind of see why they might want to use the phrase -- but if you're going to go around saying being trans is defined as "wanting to be" a certain gender, this (remarks like #3 in the ACX comment above) is the most natural consequence. (Also anecdotes I hear about teachers telling young children, "When you grow up, you can be whatever gender you want!", which is either what some well-meaning teachers nowadays in geographically progressive regions are actually telling kids, or a distortion/exaggeration by conservatives, in either case based on the aforementioned common confusion about pro-trans beliefs.)
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