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Since you @taehyungfirst love shipping jm with daeun
So you're a taekooker, who think jk and tae are dating, taehyung is gay hence there's no chance he's dating Jennie. you belive all the dating rumours of taehyung and Jennie are false and the pics are edited, the video is fake or you might believe it's cosplayer or it's media play like your fellow taekookers BUT at the same time you go around looking at what daeun is posting so that you can link her with jm cause your inner taekooker won't feel satisfied otherwise.
As you're clearly up to date with what daeun posts I'd love you to prove me how is she posting from his home/kitchen yet their kitchen counters are on opp sides. 1st daeun's story from her kitchen, 2nd is RM's kitchen from his vlog which is similar to daeun's story (so by your logic they're also dating), 3rd is jm's kitchen and his kitchen counter is exactly attached to the opposite wall than daeun. so go ahead and explain cause you seem to be good at playing matching matching.
It's funny tho how y'all belive all the pics posted by guromi are fake/edited yet you're making jm's dating rumours by trying to match the sofa, tiles etc so by your logic you should also believe taehyung was/is dating Jennie since all the pictures posted by guromi has matching sofa, pet, tiles, paintings, lift etc?? aren't you being hypocrtic @taehyungfirst ? why is that?
Also you saying taehyung's rumours were blew up by pjms, jkkrs when it was on sk's national news (even the international) for 1.5 years?? it was posted by many relavant and big media outlets like billboard..why do you think all the rumours that hybe denied of RM and jk's didn't make it to the national news?
DO I need to remind you that the man you're stanning is a world wide famous idol n from the biggest boy band in the world plus the girl seen in the video with him is also one of the most famous idol world wide and from biggest gg currently ?? do you think they need bunch of jkkrs that are not even half in numbers of tkkrs and pjms to blew up their dating news? how long you have been on k-pop side? literally every single dating rumour of an idol get's shit ton of engagement but user @taehyungfirst think taehyung needs bunch of people to blew up his dating rumours as if he's not that relevant where his dating rumours won't blow up just like that. you might also belive it's pjms and jkkrs who filmed the video of taehyung and Jennie at that night. mind you panchoana posted the video when it hit the tl and every fandom was in the there Cause all fandoms follow them (they shouldn't but alas).
Here are FEW tweets for you, i urge you to go through likes comments and qts of all these tweets and come here again and with a straight face tell me it was only jkkrs, pjms in there when even the people who don't keep up with k-pop much were qting it.
P.S. i have 0 problems with whoever jm is dating as I'm literally no one to question that but I'd not let y'all insert him everywhere to link him with someone so that you can feel better about your ship.
#day 518268263th of taekookers being hypocrites#try inserting jm everywhere for your ship and I'd love to remind you of the elephant in the room that you love to ignore#taekook#jikook#taehyung#jennie#jimin#wanted to reblog but you won't allow it so hope this finds youuu
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I'm behind on the babylon 5 rewatch but I just finished Believers. this is a great Franklin episode - he's only been introduced recently and the viewer prior to this episode doesn't have a great handle on his personality. from this episode we learn that he 1) has fantastic bedside manner: he goes to great lengths to be comforting and reassuring to the dying kid despite the parents making it really difficult (the gloppit egg bit is very cute), you get the sense that he really is passionate about helping people, and 2) his main character flaw is hubris: in a world where the existence of souls has been all-but-confirmed, how arrogant is it to really think you know better than someone else about their own bodies even though they are from a species/culture you're not familiar with at all?
when I first watched this episode in high school I 100% sided with Franklin and thought that the alien parents were so stupid. when I watched it again a few years after college (but pre-pandemic) I really sided more with the parents and thought it was not Franklin's place to use his authority to force his point of view on them against their wishes.
jms has a quote on the lurker's guide that I thought was interesting about how this situation is like the opposite of having an injured human who is "brain dead" but still has a soul in a living body. if an alien doctor wanted to operate on a human and insisted that it would be totally fine (even if the human's brain would be damaged) because the body and the soul would be unaffected, other humans would be horrified. it's absolutely within the range of possibility in this universe that there is a quality that the aliens have and can detect in each other that humans are oblivious to, and that quality would have been affected by the surgery.
on the other hand of course, watching this in a post anti-vaxxer world obviously felt different and you can't help but think of all the real life human kids in the exact same situation with parents who deny them necessary medical intervention, and in real life the ethics of that are much less ambiguous
I liked the tie-in at the very end of the A and B plots, with Ivanova's comment that sometimes a desperate gamble pays off (and Garibaldi's counter that sometimes it doesn't). I kind of feel like it leaves the viewer with the idea that there's nothing you can do other than just what you think is right, but you also just have to know that it's not always going to work out. it's too bad the B plot prevented us from hearing Ivanova's take on the situation, which I'm sure would have been spicy.
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Before you judge me I would like to clear it I’m a JK biased army and have loved seeing jikook since 2017. 3 episodes in, I realised this is the most detached jikook interactions I have ever seen. Some would say they are meeting after a long time (which is terrible imo if I see them as a couple) and there’s cameras so it’s obvious there might be awkwardness amongst the two but THIS also isn’t their first rodeo so all of it is pretty saddening. All that skinship doesn’t faze me anymore cause how JK was treating JM was something I wouldn’t even treat a friend (and never a LOVER) that I have met after years. Especially if that friend is sick and suffering. I tried to explain myself that maybe he tried to lighten the atmosphere by giving JM time to rest while entertaining us thru other ways but apart from jokes, there wasn’t a hint of reassurance from his side. And you could say he built a stone shrine but i just that’s how JK is. He’s spontaneous, saw some stones and built it. We don’t even see him wishing for JM as everyone says. And this is so opposite of the JK I have always seen with JM. Sure I got to see his caring side with how he shared food and drinks with the staff. That’s the considerate JK I love and have seen through years. But I couldn’t locate this JK in any way with his interactions with JM. Again they were meeting after a time… okay yes they were but in this same period that they haven’t allegedly met we saw JK giggling and asking JM to meet multiple times in his Weverse lives in 2023, watching compilations of JM related content and I thought it’s so obvious that this guy is missing JM and loves & cares for him and that’s what is the blatant difference in Wlives and AYS JK like it’s two different people.
I have never really been threatened by Tae’s presence in Jikook matters cause I simply never saw any thing romantic like in their interactions but Jikook has been a different story to me with all the growth in their dynamics, GCF tokyo, rose bowl and so much more. Through all this period, I have only seen the soft loving dynamic between the two so AYS has been a huge shock for me. Even if they weren’t together it would be sad but definitely okay for me but even in last episode JK said hope you get a bad stomach again this time or saying why didn’t his boat flip and trying to push the kayak and all of it was a no-no for me because it was surprising to see him say these things when I know he’s always been a considerate and respectful guy every time. Is this only me?
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i understand this conversation was happening last week, but it is coming back again i believe. i hope my answer to this illuminates that i am sort of over this level of scrutiny of their words and actions, because it gets us nowhere and i am often left feeling a little sad. id rather let us enjoy this content for what it is right now and see what the hell comes out of it. also please be respectful if anyone chooses to add on to this conversation thanks.
my immediate reaction to the show was a similar level of confusion and slight disappointment at the perceived difference in ays' jikook. the bickering over the parking, the crude bathroom humor, and jungkook's comments about jimin's kayak like you mentioned all were also shocks to me too. but as time went on, i tried to let go of it. i needed the reality check that we will truly never fully understand jikook's bond.
we are used to finding small crumbs in larger scale pieces of content - sort of like ays ep 3. and oddly enough those are the softer moments. little little small things like jungkook's hand on his knee and his concern after jimin got hurt. that's the jungkook i am used to. but you zoom out of those moments and they feel different - why? we've never seen them just exist. this may be a regular part of their friendship dynamic that we have just never seen. i do think jungkook growing up does play a part as well. i found him to be much more loud, talkative, and brash then i previously assumed. but the reminder that they are people who will change overtime is very needed and valid.
i don't really know what to make of it, but i don't want to make inferences. yes, it is jarring in places, but i don't exactly know what it means for their friendship because... i am not apart of their relationship. the only thing i know is jimin still decided to spend time with him, keep the show going, and eventually enlist with him. jimin hasn't had problems speaking with jungkook about his actions in the past (rainy day fight call out), so i truly think if jungkook did something to hurt him, he would say so. i trust them to manage their relationships themselves.
i know this gets into speculation territory, but i feel like the camera may play a bigger difference then we think. jungkook says at the end of ep 2 that "we should become entertainers so good we can do this til we're 50." jungkook is also the one concerned with the theme of the show and are you sure?! as a whole. jimin just seems to be trying to make the most of his bad fortune on these trips. i think if anything, jungkook is turning to joking and silliness for the sake of the show's entertainment factor. also, we are only seeing select, edited clips from a 72 hour-long trip. jungkook does check in with jimin verbally a few times across the first two eps and i'm hoping he did help jimin out as much as he could, but that all could very well be cut out. from the editing point of view, it's not about those tender moments. why include jimin getting continuously sprayed with water guns and a bunch of poop jokes (aka embarrassing him on camera), but seemingly none of these quieter conversations and intimate moments that most likely did happen? it's for the sake of the show and its narrative. it would be really funny if a lot of this pops up in the behind the scenes footage. there's always a grain of salt you need to take while watching these contents, since we sincerely will never have a full glimpse into their relationship.
thank you for your ask anon! i appreciate your honesty on this show.
#jikook#anon ask#i know i said id be away from here#but this was stirring in my brain since last saturday so
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Hi BPP. I have a question running through my mind lately, and I think it’s a little bit stupid, a little bit legit. I read your thoughts and like your opinions. I think you’re one of the best people who could answer, if not the most appropriate one. Sorry if it sounds dumb, tho.
I’ve been into kpop for a while, now. I can’t say i know the way it works, i can’t say i’m a master of it. But i notice things. I notice the big big impact fanservice has in the industry, for example. It’s literally fundamental. There are a few few companies with sex-mixed groups. Put them apart, the majority are same sex groups. Because with opposite genders in the same group there could be problems, unease, relationships etc.
Then they push same sex fantasies with fanservice and amplified skinship (already present in Korea). And until this point, everything is normal. I mean, we know things work this way.
But here i already notice a controversy. Homophobia is present and rooted in Korea and in the industry, but still they push gay narratives/don’t do anything to debunk them. So they try to “feed” everyone, people who like gay scenarios/moments included.
Then i think about girl groups. Twice, black pink. There’s a lot of explicit touching, explicit affirmations (i like you, your body is stunning, let’s go on a date, you make me blush etc). There’s in bts too, the guys did some nasty things too on cameras, i know. But with girl groups, you can easily notice it’s made up for the cameras but it still happens, and unless i’m missing it, i never saw someone hating or heavily hating on members because of it. Because of some easily misunderstanable sentences/acts.
The same goes for boy groups. I’m thinking of ateez. On of the members (i’m not into them so i don’t know his name) loudly read a comment saying “marry (insert another member’s name)”. And he said “you want me to marry *? You know it’s illegal here”. Then i’m thinking of enyphen, again, i’m not into them, but i saw this clip of two members going live and reading comments about them being a couple/being romantically involved. Shipping.
I’m sorry this is gonna be a long one, but before making my point i need to say these things.
Then we have Somi. She explicitly said she has a lot of women flirting with her, and she said she wants to conquer women too. She said she likes Han SoHee and dmed her on insta, but she didn’t reply. She even kissed Hyuna in a video posted on the internet less than a month ago.
Then we have Bibi. She kisses girl fans during her concerts and pictures of it are shared everywhere. She’s still famous, all of these people i’m mentioning are famous, are known, are in the korean spotlight, more or less. And their careers are not fucked up. Sometimes it’s fanservice, some others it’s who they are. Somi really likes women too, imo, and Bibi as well.
I get that for women it might be easier. There’s a group (a big group) of people who prefers gay interactions between women than gay interactions between men. They find it pleasing, and it’s an homophobic, toxic masculinity and women fetishization related preference.
But still, most people are fine with it. Yeah someone probably criticized it, probably hated on them because of these behaviours, but at the end of the day everything is fine for them.
I’m thinking about J-Hope too, who has gay friends and publicly shares pictures with them. He even visited a gay club and, again, probably some people criticized him for it and i’m just not on that side of the internet and the fandom, but at the end of the day his career is not gonna end because of it. Most People are fine with that too. He wears nail polish, tae does too. Can you imagine Jm or Jk doing that publicly? The hate they’d get? Maybe i’m wrong and it wouldn’t be like that; but that’s how i feel.
Then i think about Holland. His coming out had a huge impact on his career, his life. The aggressions he was victim of; his music not being so followed and famous, probably also because of said coming out.
I think about every kpop artist who is closeted and can’t say it. I think about Jikook, about Jimin who had to “play” with colors, lyrics, temporary tattoos and playful interviews (such as the “I think he likes men-> I don’t like you” one) in order to silently whisper that he’s not straight. That there’s more he can’t show.
And then Jikook in general. They could never afford to do what ateez and enhypen did. Never, bpp. We know that. So why?
Why is there this difference, why is it so… difficult for me to get how this works. Why can they do it, but Jikook can’t? But bts can’t? Why is there a limit for some idols, and some others are almost completely free? What am I missing?
I hope my question is clear, bpp. I really do, because i feel like i made a mess here all over the place. I’m sorry about it, thank you for reading this, if you did.
I appreciate you🫶
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Hi Anon,
Don’t apologize.
So if I’m reading this right, you’re asking why the reaction to jikook showing queer expression is so much more negative than you see it for anyone else / other duos and groups?
Or, maybe quoting you is better:
“And then Jikook in general. They could never afford to do what ateez and enhypen did. Never, bpp. We know that. So why?”
I’m not sure if what I’ll say will make sense, and this might seem silly, but I think one reason jikook/BTS appear to have fewer liberties on things like explicit/overt shows of love/attraction between them, even under the umbrella of ‘fan service’ and compared to other groups, is because BTS is the biggest group in the world. Just by virtue of the group’s prominence, BTS being very closely tied with several government appointments and massive brands in Korea (Samsung and Hyundai)… there’s a greater expectation of conformity for them compared to other groups. There’s just more at stake for them.
I mean, do you recall the lead up to the enlistment news? How people were picking them apart, people who didn’t think they should be exempt where digging into their old footage trying to find anything to turn public opinion against the group. It was kinda crazy. In that sort of environment and in any case, the prudent thing would be to wait till after military service to expect more freedom in expression for a boy group. And perhaps that’s what we’ll see with jikook and BTS in general come 2026.
But also, the thing is, jikook have still been quite loud… in some ways even louder than Somi’s declarations (but certainly not Holland’s and the cost to him and any openly gay artist is apparent to see). GCF in Tokyo is so loud, it couldn’t be louder if JK got a megaphone, climbed to the top of the Eiffel Tower and screamed that he loves Jimin in the four cardinal directions. No matter what anybody says about GCF in Tokyo, that video itself is very clear and it says it all.
Then there’s the gesture of Jimin flying from Paris to Korea just to spend some time with Jungkook on his birthday, and then more recently, flying to NYC to be with JK during Seven debut. There’s the way their families treat them both. There’s that OT7 live where Jimin kept one half of his body literally glued to Jungkook’s on the couch, hooking his arms to keep their thighs together that not even air could pass between them. Then there’s fucking Rosebowl, pardon my French.
Like, even with all the scrutiny, jikook have still been able to say what they actually want about what they each mean to each other. Jimin is usually private and careful with how he speaks in general, he’s not the kind of person to talk the way Somi did about anything, really. So expecting a similar level and style of communication/queer expression, for jikook compared to these other people, really isn’t fair to Jimin or Jungkook to begin with, I think.
It’s totally okay if as a fan you’d like to see more open, simple and consistent expressions of queerness the way we have it in OnlyOneOf, Ateez, Bibi, etc. Those groups are made in some ways precisely to scratch that itch. It’s good the way they talk about queer attraction draws you in or resonates with you, but I’m not sure it’s fair to expect other people, in this case jikook and/or BTS, to express their relationship and queer feelings the same way.
If you’re approaching this solely from the point of concern for jikook, I totally get it. Korea is very homophobic. But within their immediate team, I hope and trust they are surrounded by more good people than bad, people who will aim to protect the queer members. There’s no use worrying about this for long, since they’ll just have to learn to take care of themselves.
I could’ve totally missed your question or what you’re actually asking, Anon. If so let me know. But the above is also what I think.
#Also Hobi didn’t go to a gay club but one rumoured to be frequented by some gay men#jikook#BTS#bts chapter 2#kpop
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i know you aren’t a hater and you’ll probably not post it but I wish you will so I can feel seen because I am bursting with so many emotions and no one in my real life would get it. if it’s true that tae is dating that girl, i’mma let hate paralyse my mind. I swear there’s no coming back from this. I mean y’all telling me jimin being hated, slut shamed, defamed, threatened and sabotaged was all for nothing. I’m trying hard to ignore both jk and tae in this mess but y’all are telling they sat there and let your so called friend be dragged for years. There’s no way bighit don’t know about this.
This isn’t even about jikook because deep down I know it’s jimin over anyone else. I will cry for real so I’m hoping it’s not true. After all the mess jimin has gone through, the least taekook should have done is to at least kiss so as to justify all these hate. I know this is a jikook blog but I follow you because I’m curious about him and I am ready to support him in anything. But truly I am sad. I always thought if any of vminkook announce their relationship I will be relieved because jm will be free but today I realize that it’s the opposite. I am angry, I am sad and I feel so hurt on behalf of jimin. All those dc inside, YouTube hate video, death threats, report for jm. I’m going to sort out my feelings for taekook because deep down I don’t hate them… never😭😭
Anon. It's hard to be a PJM in 2023 so I understand. Trust me, I get it. I love this man an unhealthy amount. I see why you're getting affected by the Jimin hate. But here is the thing that I need u to think about before you take the anti route.
Here are the most recent Vmin hugs we have.
This was not part of the choreo
I mean look at Jimin's face
And the very most recent ot7 content. Again look at this hug. Look at V's face.
What I'm I saying? I think these motherfuckers love each other. That's what I think. I think V loves Jimin and Jimin loves V. Do I think they are as close as they used to be? No. But do they still love eo? Absolutely.
3 things 1) An anon made a point that I've been thinking about. The Tannies probably don't see what happens on I-twitter. They probably have their twitter curated and only shows what Karmy are saying. And Karmy are not the ones hating on Jimin. So for all we know V might be missing all this fuckery. I really don't see him seeing the pigmin and bangmin stuff and him being okay with that.
2) Jimin is no push over. Never has been. If V was being a dick to him or if Jimin had issues with V, he would have cut him out of his life. I honestly believe that.
3) Jeon Jungkook would never in a million years hurt Jimin on purpose or let someone else hurt Jimin. Ever. Like that's a thing that will never fucking happen. It doesn't matter who it is. This man defends Jimin even when his man doesn't need defending. Jimin can handle himself but when JK sees some fuckery going on he steps up. So aint no way he would be hanging out with V if the dude was being malicious.
I let u guys vent here and I hear and understand where you're coming from but my stand has always remained the same. As long as Jimin and Jungkook continue to love V, so will I. Clearly there is alot we don't know.
From the outside looking in, it looks bad but I really do think they're fine. If Jimin had an issue with what V was doing, not only would he shut it down, but so would JK.
I'll give you an example. JK came live and V told him to go to insta. A very awkward live happened but that's neither here nor there. What also happened was that live made noise even in the Karmy side. So this is what happened.
Tkk live ---- Jimin comes live for the shortest live he had ever done at that time. And he was busy. But for some reason he still stopped by. It seemed like it could have waited till he finished work---- V shares a Jikook photo for Jhope's birthday.
I think these 3 things are related. I think someone wasn't happy about the tkk live and that was V making it up to him.
I, think if Jimin has an issue he lets it known and handles it.
Jimin is not weak, anon. Jimin is quite strong. Stronger than people give him credit for. I guarantee if V was an issue he would have handled him by now. For all we know the dumpling incident got physical and u know Jimin won that fight.
So, its important to pause. Breathe. Its okay. Everything is okay. I'm about to say something extremely blunt now. Anon, it helps no one when u get affected mentally by Jimin hate. He doesn't know u and he will never hear about it if something happens to you. He and his millions will be perfectly fine. You gotta look after yourself first. Alright?
Love Shazy,
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Hi I read your last post.
And I just want to give my 2 cents.
1. Why Tae is always doing it ?. I mean I get many ot7s here comparing it with hobi posting with Jimin. BUT the vibes they gives off is totally opposite. Hobi is just innocently posting his whatever updates with ALL members. You can clearly see an untainted affection to ALL members equally. But with Tae anyone with eyes can see and understand it's NOT like that. There was NO need for him to post that fake marker tattoo, there was NO need for him to come online twice or thrice just to say he was talking to JK or gaming with him, as if Jinkook was not gaming often. Fact that he doesn't mention anyone but JK, the main purpose of his visits is to inform Tkk news is so wierd. It very much rubs me in a wrong way.
2. Like you said, idk why he feels his fame will go away if he's not keeping on feeding tkkrs. JM was inactive for MONTHS. He barely posted during last 6-7 months, while he was working his ass off which now he's getting paid. But the rare times Jimin comes home it's to wish fans, say he's working, to say he miss and loves us. Even members share the same thing abt him - Jimin is working hard to prepare something huge. JK is inactive now for almost 2 months. So if 2 members of maknae line doesn't need any ship or glamor to keep their fans close why tae thinks he needs to ? Given he's the one with most followers among maknaes ? Is he not confident in his fans. Or does he know the mass breed following he has, who will disappear if he won't feed them tkk ? It's something we all knew but all of this confirmed it again, Jimin is VERY CLASSY.
3. Now boys know all the after effects of their actions. There was a reason why Tae came to weverse to clear it when he accidentally followed Jennie. So he knows it is JM's name will be dragged for everything tkk does. One can say he's not responsible for tkkrs. But one thing is spending time with your bandmate but he should also consider about his another bandmate who is bruttaly attacked each time he decides to feed them. If your action is causing major damages to people you claim to love everyone will be cautious about posting what is going behind the scenes online. Now last time he came live, I knew it was to say something tkk. And I wasn't wrong. EVERYONE can see the pattern, unnecessary pattern, but won't admit.
4. Now this is the most important. JK. If JK is with tae everytime he gives updates, then there's nothing, we as Jikookers can complain about. We may think what tae is doing is not nice BUT it's JK who's still choosing to do everything he shared with tae. Tae is NOT lying about these things. All of this indeed happened (except tattoo thing). So which is worse. Spending all time with one person or the said person saying it online ? In this sense, tae is not doing anything wrong, even if he has a hidden agenda. It was JK who spend days and hours gaming with tae, it is JK who goes bowling with his friends, it's JK who posted a cropped pic of their private trip, it's JK who went to tae before he went to Qatar or even the day JM was returning home from Paris. It was JK who didn't supported JM's work online, It was JK who's going shopping with tae. if JK likes to do everything with him, except coming online to say a Hi to his own fans or atleast give 2 fucks about Jimin's existence, tae is simply making it online. Not pulling lies out of his ass.
5. Even if this much happened which WE think is not nice from tae's side, Jimin and JK is not bothered. Jimin doesn't give 2 fucks about tkk, conspiracy theories or tkkrs. He doesn't care if JK is spending so much time with tae, not being there when he comes home, not supporting him on sm, he doesn't care of their cult fans are dragging his name, he doesn't care if these all stirs more conspiracy theories. He is doing his thing, he's making his album, he is coming online to wish fans, he is getting his deals, he seems so happy in latest contents, him and hobi share even deeper bond, he's GLOWING. Which is the MOST IMPORTANT THING FOR ME. JK doesn't give 2 fucks if Tae is saying it all online even in middle of his sm break, he doesn't care if it's stirring more tkk theories and rumors. It's obvious his view abt Fandom and how he approaches it changed. Now what does that tell us ? Either Jikook doesn't care about these things or it's just us reading all of this, I mean ALL OF THIS, wrongly - including Jikook.
So, I'll be honest, this ask coming from a totally blank account looks like bait. But in the interest of giving everyone the benefit of the doubt, I'll entertain you once.
Disclaimer 1: I'm a 1-year-old ARMY still making my way through content, so please take my opinion with a grain of salt.
Disclaimer 2: Your thoughts and feelings are valid--but none of us have the right to assume we know how any BTS member thinks, feels, acts off camera, or intends things to be. So understand your thoughts are your thoughts, not necessarily reality, and that we don't have a right to every sliver of these guys' lives.
First and Second Question: Why does Tae constantly namedrop JK? In my opinion, I think Tae's parents were forced by circumstances to leave him with his grandparents, and ever since then, he became an idol and an actor (and a good one) because he's afraid of being invisible. He doesn't want to be abandoned, so he will try on many different faces and personas. He will rarely share the "real" Kim Taehyung unless you're very close to him. He told us as much in an interview. I think Tae knows that he will always have a base among fans who like Taekook, and so he showcases Taekook. I notice a pattern to it, in the past year or so, though. Whenever JK or Jimin are trending or in the news (or if dating scandals are making the rounds), Tae comes online to mention only Jungkook and imply how close he is to Jungkook. And you know what? He IS close to Jungkook. Always has been. They DO hang out. I've never been in any doubt of it. Those two have been playing online and arcade games and doing sports and listening to music since they were fetus teenagers just starting out and they still are. I love that for them. I mean that sincerely. It's normal and healthy. And considering Tae sometimes hangs out with not-so-nice rich and famous folks, I'd much rather he chill with his members. Just my opinion, don't come for me. It does make me sad that Tae rarely mentions when he has hung out with Hobi, or Jin--yet they have both mentioned Tae has come over and hung with them, or had drinks and dinner with the whole group. I think this goes back to only a select few people seeing the "real" Taehyung, whereas V will share things online that he thinks fans want to see. Because he needs to be seen.
Third Question: Impact. Listen, all BTS members have Master's degrees in things like communications, entertainment, media, advertising, etc. They've been in the business for a decade. They are well aware of their impact, and likely follow it to varying degrees by using private social media accounts. I wish they each had training on how to respond to backlash or prevent backlash online, but it is what it is. So I think it's a safe bet to say they know when members get flack. But the extent of it? I honestly don't know. I'm not sure any of them spend too much time on English Twitter, gauging what rando theories nutters come up with. Creating online buzz is part of their business. Tae really seems to enjoy it. Jimin really does not. And we all saw a sharp direction change in JK, who used to come to us for Q&A sessions all the time, and now only updates for work. A decision he made round about the time the press started dragging Jimin for not getting his bills in the mail. At some point, for your own sanity, you have to stop taking responsibility for how others will twist things.
Fourth Statement: With the exception of the momentous occasion of headlining the World Cup, Jimin and Jungkook have stopped commenting on each other's social media, nor do they hype each other's projects. To me, this is so, SO much louder than if they just gave canned, lukewarm thumbs ups to things. You can take it to mean they don't care about each other's work, but, that would be inconsistent with 9 years of what they've said and shown us. The fact that Jungkook and Jimin are the ONLY two members not ever publicly hyping each other is... kind of putting a giant LOOK HERE sticker on their relationship, in my opinion. So if Jikook aren't showing us much evidence of off-stage Jikookery, then I look to the people around them.
The members, who all immediately look to Jungkook when Jimn struggles to open a food packet. Jin and Joon, laughing at Jikook acting out their own personal K-drama chase scene over gluten ramen. Yoongi and Hobi, rushing to explain why they heard Jimin's songs first to an upset JK. Joon, who teases JK specifically that Hobi is Jimin's #1. Hobi, who asks JK to do ace couples yoga with Jimin. Hobi, who explains JK is in charge of the music when Jimin is bumming around in his underwear at home. Hobi, who posted videos of Jikook playing games in the DC arcade. Yoongi, who automatically compares JK's organic approach to Jimin's hardworking style in the studio.
And never mind the members. Furniture stores that sell beds follow just them. Jewelry makers that specialize in couples pieces follow just them. Their tattoo artist has their initials forever inked on his arm. JK's brother kept up fanart of Jimin, Jungkook, and Bam online. Jimin's dad posted photos of JK's dog on his birthday. JK's mom made seaweed soup on Jimin's birthday.
I have never once seen anyone in the inner circle treat Taehyung and Jungkook like a unit this way. (Edit: I guess you could count that Wooga dudes follow JK on insta too, but, I just don't see people constantly linking Kim Taehyung and Jeon Jungkook together off stage. The only one doing that is Tae.)
Everywhere you look, the people around Jikook treat them like a couple. BECAUSE THEY SO OBVIOUSLY ARE ONE.
FIFTH POINT: While I certainly would not be comfy if my best friend led millions of fans to believe he were in a romantic relationship with my boyfriend, I am not the maknae. I didn't grow up with shipping as an expected part of my job performance, and I didn't trauma bond with all of my members in my formative years. I think Jimin (and probably JK, based on the fact he continues to hang with Tae) find Tae's behavior to be zero threat because... it's truly of zero threat in real life.
Personally? I think Tae is straight (or at least bi) and has had straight relationships and really wants to marry a woman and have children some day--not because it's expected of him, but because that would bring him joy. I do not think he actually wants Jungkook romantically. (You MIGHT make a case to me that he had a crush on Jimin, maybe. But those guys are firmly and solidly in the friends-for-life category, per Jimin's clear feelings for JK.) This is just the vibe I get. I have no way of knowing. But even though the cult gets whipped up and they go online and spout ABSOLUTE VICIOUS NONSENSE, as long as Jikook are unbothered, I gotta stay unbothered too. Because I trust Jikook to know what's best for them.
Instead, I spend my time and energy supporting Jikook and BTS as a whole. I focus on streaming, voting, buying, and hash-tagging my heart out, in between watching episodes with my friends, because I've learned to put my energy toward the things I want. And I chalk Tae's behavior up to insecurity and growing pains. It sucks but I think it's part of his journey.
Because whatever Tae claims or implies, Jungkook has been super clear with us:
So that's all I'm gonna say on this topic. Thanks for writing in. I wish you a positive and joyful fandom experience, my dear lurking friend!
Yours,
Roo
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Hello,
I am here to rant yet again. I try to not be on the bird app more than I need to, but Jimin is my ULT along with JK and his first solo album is coming out (I have been waiting for this day since 2015), so I am of course now full on promoting his stuff. I will go all out for my love, especially if he’s gonna bare his soul to us. I know I will do the same for JJK1. I really like all the members and stream actively for them. But I have so far bought 13 copies of Face from KTown although it financially wrecked me. I am not bragging, everyone supports their artists in their own way, but there are only two people in the whole world of K-pop that I will do this for. It’s Jimin and Jungkook. I digress. I am on Twitter a lot these days, and there are two things I want to voice. It’s not all about Jikook, but in some ways it is.
1. I am baffled by how much the fandom believes in their own version of narratives about the members. Like they have created this version of each of the members and made it into a norm within the community. JK is the baby, golden maknae, RM is the brain, the intelligent one, V is the most beautiful, and JM is the cute, smol bean, that need to be protected and is the biggest cheerleader and more. They are truly unwilling to look beyond these roles they have assigned to them. A fine example would be JK responding to someone on Weverse that he isn’t a baby, and folks turning that into a meme. “If not baby, why so cute” or whatever that gag is. I see why one would think that way, coz you saw the members often treating him as their little one for years. But here’s the catch. He is their little one, he’s not yours. I am a 1997 liner and I fkn hate when someone treats me like a child. Now imagine a whole fandom treating you as a baby (important to note that he’s also the victim of the extreme opposite-hypersexualisation). People making translated essays on why he shouldn’t drink, why he should seek out work? He’s not your child. They have all grown so much, so can we also grow along with them? The most pressing one for me is the way JM is presented. I feel like people love him when he’s a cheerleader. Cheerleader for army, for members, for 4th gen groups, whatever. I have been seeing many many posts where people are wondering why Jimin gets this much media traction and why he has multiple brand deals, people were even wondering why only his video was played in a Samsung event. Some Ot7 peeps even said that those who they think would make noise isn’t making noise and they are worried if JM leaves his popularity would skyrocket. I even saw people say he has hidden fans. I think there’s some serious tunnel vision at play here. People underestimate his popularity. I am from Asia, and he’s immensely popular here. Like he has my country wrapped around his little pinky. The maknae line in general is more popular than the HL, but people often assume he comes last in popularity amongst the three. That is untrue. Their popularity is interchangeable and Jimin is unarguably the media and brand favourite. Jk is the only one who even compares in that department. V is definitely is a social media legend, all his posts have 10 million something likes, and that’s A FIRST. But the fandom thinking JM is getting unfair traction amongst media and brand is ridiculous, he’s always been that. Outside the fandom, Jimin is IT for people. Outside army narratives, Jimin is the recruiting fairy. He’s to K-pop what Naruto is to anime. Twitter muted his name because they thought it’s a common word years ago, that’s how much attention he gets every time he steps out. Also the fandom’s complete detachment to the Korean side of realities. He’s their national treasure. They love him. And once again, JK is the only one with a Ismaili appeal. I am rambling, but what do you mean my hidden fans? What do you mean company fav? He’s very well known to the outside world. He’s cool when he brings you locals into 875 but not when it helps his own solo career? Same with JK getting that FIFA opportunity, they wanted him specifically (not OT7), why does that upset you? He’s a crazy good performer and has heavy mass appeal. He deserves it.
2. This is coming from a place of vague concern. I have been seeing Blinks and Army go at it for the last two weeks. Now Blinks did start a few unnecessary conversations. Like offering to play Lana songs on the day of FACE release. Diminish Jimin’s impact as Dior ambassador, coz Jisoo paved the way??????? Even call out Tae for not being attractive (now be for real, you have to be actively blind or full of hate for you to think V isn’t beautiful. He has an insanely symmetrical face and he is very charming), even accusing JK of being depressed or whatever. But bro Amis go at them girls just as harsh. Jennie seems to be on the receiving end of most of it, because she’s also their IT girl. Now IDK if Jennie and Tae ever dated, we will never know for sure, but from what I have seen and how both companies didn’t clear any allegations despite them both being superstars did create some doubt in my mind. They have at least been in the same circles, and that worries me. If they are indeed together or even just friends, will ARMY take back all this shit they have spewed? I am not talking TROLL accounts, I am talking big ass OT7 accounts with thousand of followers just outright slutshaming her. How would you live with yourself if they are at some point together? Wipe your accounts clean?
Every time I am on Twitter I am reminded why I deleted the app, I shall do the same again once Face is out. Till then, Jimin lockdown.
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I think I should correct some misinformation.
The Daeun rumour didn't start back then while they were doing their US concerts. That was a different rumour and it was about Jimin dating Kwon Eunbi. It was based on clouds looking similar but the whole rumour was debunked very quickly. Although everyone please look at her recent photoshoot with Calvin Klein. Damn. My pansexual ass wouldn't mind her dating Jimin, not gonna lie. 🤭 Anyways after the Eunbi rumour was debunked, people switched to Eunbi's friend Jung Yein. Because she used the chick emoji. But once again the rumour was debunked very fast and was quickly forgotten.
Now, the Daeun rumour is something else. It started out as nothing but seems questionable now. The rumour came from the DC galleries, specifically from the Season's Greetings one, a well known Jimin anti forum. They started to link her to him due to matching, but not the same, jewellery, due to her being at the same football match as Hoseok and Jimin but on the opposite side of the stadium and due to her being friends with a comedian that claimed Jimin as her bias. So very much nothing.
It still made some waves but was not taken seriously by the Korean side. On international side obviously Taekooker pushed that rumour. So Daeun was harassed. So much that she threatened to sue the people who wrote nasty dms to her because of the rumour. Apparently she denied knowing him personally during one of her Instagram lives. I say apparently because that's only hearsay and there's no proof.
Now a couple of months ago some things changed. She posted some pictures while doing a Q&A, she later on deleted the pictures. On those pictures we could see her dinner. Prepared on the same plates Jimin has, with the same pot on the same looking counter top. Obviously people immediately jumped on it. Especially because in the same Q&A she posted a video of her dog that was clearly taken in an apartment in the Nineone complex. People brushed it off though because the couch was different to Jimin's.
Yesterday though she posted another video of her dog that showed the dog on a rug. The same rug we saw in Jimin's wlive on September 1st. With the same flooring underneath the rug. And that is what make people question now if the rumour is really just a rumour or if there's more.
One thing though, if Jimin is actually dating her, it would make him a bit more questionable. Daeun was involved in the Burning Sun scandal. If you don't know what the Burning Sun scandal is, please google it.
So far, I have heard a lot of inconsequential "evidence" that very well be nothing. The fact that the rumors started on a forum for JM antis is the first major flag. Especially if she was "allegedly" involved in the Burning Sun scandal (I know what it is). Also, people supposedly harassed this girl, yet now she willingly gives feeds these rumors, giving some "hints" and then deleting them? Doesn't it sound a little bit like she is looking for attention and is trying to keep the conversation going?
Also, similar or even the same plates and pots don't really prove anything. I am not saying that it isn't possible. Just that I am very doubtful for now. Like with everything else, let's just wait and see.
Lastly, I seriously doubt JM of all people would be with someone if they had any part in the Burning sun scandal, if he knew it. I simply can't believe it.
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I saw this comment a while ago and i think people like anon (who was talking about we not wanting jm to date woman) who are interested in matching kitchen counters and sofa (that comes with the house itself) would be able to explain me why jm's kitchen counter and daeun's kitchen counters are on completely opposite sides??? Did it change suddenly anon? So they are/were living in the same house yet have two different kitchen counters? Her kitchen counter literally matched RM's kitchen counter so ig they're both dating now? RM's kitchen pic u can see in second image. The first one is a story posted by daeun nd it's not even a selfie cam or anything so you don't get to twist it that way too lol. This is what we mean when we don't want to sit here and start matching counters, cutlery of two humans from sk that has population around 51million.
About the guy you're talking pjms didn't mind shipping jm with (which everyone was joking btw if you didn't get the joke/humour, they still do), that man's name is lee saeon who's a good friend of jimin with whom we have seen jimin hanging out in reality and not just in someone's imagination. We have seen jm with saeon on sungwoon's musical, we have seen a leaked footage of jm with saeon (which shouldn't have leaked in the first Place but alas) from a CCTV of a shop/Mart from literally 4am so i guess that tells you enough about how close they both are. Now anon you give me atleast ONE picture of jm and that woman together, show me atleast one video of jm hanging out with that woman and we can sit here and talk about them probably dating eachother. You people are so stupid and angry at us because we don't wanna think jm is dating someone based on kitchen counter and rumours started by his antis and tkkrs who wants to prove he's straight dating woman so they can feel safe about their ship cause they're very much convinced jm can steal jk from tae at any given point.
Same pjms ship jm with enwoo too (again anon jokingly) cause again they seems good friends and we have seen them together in the same frame, talking to e/o, hugging e/o and sticking together in a whole ass party where enwoo's supposed bestie was present too. They do that with Vernon too sometimes cause guess what? Jm and him had interacted with e/o too. We ain't sitting here matching shit.
Now read what i wrote above again anon and tell me who sounds more childish, stupid, toxic with zero brain cause it surely ain't people who wants to talk about things based on evidence and reality.
People started talking about taennie because there's pictures of taehyung and Jennie together and there's a whole ass video of them walking on the roads of paris did you have anything like that for this rumour? If yes bring it up and we can talk.
We're here for jm's music, here because of his personality and not to see who he's dating or gonna date in future. We got nothing to do with that. Most of the pjms believe he's bi so why would we gonna have problem with him dating woman?? If i see him talking, hanging out with a woman and see a good chemistry I'll myself would hope to see them together. Idk where you're getting this idea of pjms not wanting jm near woman cause we all know how he is. We ain't homophobic jjks and KTHs or yns who thinks their fav gona fall in love with them and date them.
Period 😭
I don't get what's so hard to understand that it's not about the fact that she's a woman... It's about the fact that there's no proof they even know each other.
The most ridiculous thing is that they keep comparing it to taennie, mijoo, or Jungkook's leaked video when it's so obviously different. At least they're there with the girls. And I saw all that happen in real time, which as I've mentioned, is important to me. On the same note, people seem to forget I've I said never believed the yubi rumours because the basis for it is just the same as the daeun one. And if only they knew some of the stuff I've seen that I don't even bring up also because, just like daeun, is all very speculative. Like there was even a thread speculating the woman in Jungkook's apartment was one of Jennie's friend. Or how there was one Instagram story of bibi having dinner and you could hear someone who sounded a lot like Jungkook's voice in the background.
But I can't prove anything with that, the same way I can't prove anything with daeun, because you can't even see him. How's that so hard to understand 😐 it's not that I'm making an exception because it's a rumour that involves Jimin. It's simply a baseless rumour to my standards.
It's also about the extreme push of it all.. from the beginning they made it a "living together" rumour. It wasn't dating, or hook ups or anything, it was straight up living together 🥸
The eunwoo and saeon jokes are more widely accepted simply because everything mentioned. There's at least proof of them already having a relationship, a friendship. It's the exact same as when they say Jungkook is dating mingyu. There's some basis of real relationships in all those jokes.
Jimin was the first member to have female dancers, and to dance with one. He joked with armys about it just like how he fast forwarded the like crazy mv simply because that's what he does and he actually cares about the content being appropriate for everyone; but not precisely because he's scared of being seen with women or anything. Pjms were literally celebrating every moment of it, and pjms were also really happy about the photos he took at jitb party. I myself also thought they were all so cute.
It's not that it's a woman, it's the context and how hard they keep trying to make it seem like it's the same situation as taennie when there's a literal video of Taehyung and Jennie walking hand in hand, and they expect me to sit here and look at couches and say "oh yeah absolutely this is irrevocable proof of a relationship and it's totally in the same level as a photo of Taehyung kissing Jennie's forehead".
I don't even care to look for pictures but the mental image when you compare the three situations (taennie/daeun/Jungkook and mijoo/mysterious woman) is so absurd. One is definitely not like the others.
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Let me tell you what ppl are disappointed about.
If someone is feeling sick what you do is ask them "If they're okay" atleast once. it's not a crazy thing to expect from someone's frnds because i do and my frnds do for me as well.
I'll give a example, when TH was feeling scared to jump off jungkook without anyone asking him went to other side climbed it just so he could show taehyung that they're on same level and Tae don't need to feel scared, jm on the other hand was cheering up tae from down and even went before tae so he can show tae how to do it nd to boost tae's confidence That's exactly what you call cheering up someone. Now let's look at what tae and jk did when jm was feeling sick, They were trying to include him into headbanging shit like that's the worst thing one would do when you're already feeling motion sickness cause it will immediately trigger your vomiting urge. Nd will make him feel more dizzy. Then when he was trying to sleep they were spraying water on him and got him wet with water. I totally get they wanted jm to play and get include jm but that's literally not how You cheer up someone. Doing the exact opposite things to cheer up someone when they shouldn't do it doens't work.
That's what ppl are upset about. And before any other anon comes in here using this to drag jkk against TK then let me tell You i do not think TK are ever romantically involved and they will not. They don't feel that way about eachother and taehyung has also made it clear last year who he has romantic feelings for. And no jk also doesn't treat jm bad in comparison to tae cause i know for a fact that jk has always treated jm better and that is why the freakin disappointment. Because we're used to jk doing all that for jm just like jm does that for jk.
Another example is again jm being worried about jk not taking his caffeine that he even said "I'm not ok" when jk said he himself is.
Idg why ppl think us expecting them to atleast ask jm if he's okay is us expecting jk to make jm sit on his lap and sing him a lullaby lol. Expecting bare minimum is for jkkrs like us expecting jk holding jm's hand through his sickness lol.
Jk might have felt worried in his head but all viewers saw is TK ganging up on jm i mean i don't feel that way but armys do and I'm sure non-fans if they watch they'll feel too. If your care can't be seen and always needs explanation why this that unlike jm then maybe the way of showing care itself sucks.
I didn't even read this tbh. I know what people are disappointed by. And I already explained with they shouldn't be. Please re-read my other replies.
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tbh i actually….agree with this, aside from the whole nazism thing. it’s not new, it’s not as foreign in american society like people think. 2017 wasn’t so unexpected if we look at our own history. but yeah we need more stories where diana is represented in that military, overall human rights setting.
devastation, from eric luke’s run, was effective because she was just that. devastation. her job is to spread discord and violence and she planned on utilizing a group of accelerationist nuclear-armed terrorists to achieve her goal of complete, utter destruction. she was created in the same clay fashion to be the opposite of diana. having an “opposite” of diana be that, that really says something. and before that, luke wrote “the bearing of the soul” as a one-shot of diana attempting to resolve conflict in a war zone. and he wrote it respectfully.
then we had a similar character genocide, the “walking war crime” from gail simone’s run, made a really distinct impression because we had a character that actually embodied everything diana stands against. by nature, diana is against war and the murder of innocent people. but genocide was diana’s corpse from the future embued with the soil of past genocides, and gail simone was actually smart about this. the commentary was “we said ‘never again’ but we’re actually big fucking hypocrites about future genocides because this thing wouldn’t exist without them.” we got diana at her best: someone who fights for peace and a universal common good.
and tbh?? the third volume of wonder woman was actually a nice exploration of the old 1940s, typical american concept without being too heavy handed. thanks tom king. we had the diana prince “affiliated with the government” identity, diana siding with the americans in amazons attack because she knows aggression when she sees it and isn’t loyal to just one group of people, diana “living as an american but having the full stubbornness of the amazon race”..yk, it just felt classic.
also tempted to add the 1st volume of wonder woman odyssey here since it tackled that concept of genocide and war crimes again, especially the banality of it. and it was written by JMS, who had a scumfuck nazi war criminal for a father and again. he knew what he was talking about. meredith finch’s run with the new 52 donna troy was also this, having a moral opposite of diana being “a personification of hatred and fear.”
where it all becomes a sheer fucking mess is when inexperienced or just plain stupid (yes im using the word stupid) try to tackle this theme and im gonna say steve orlando is the prime example here. weird liberal orange man bad dude with selective compassion depending whether or not you support the current good guy party, somehow this mf still gets work.
he reduces genocide and devastation, who have these rich character histories, into average baddies that get pummeled wah wah wah. he attempts to write out a redemption arc for paula von gunther and gives her the typical “baby saved from a burning building” origin when really…i think diana of all people, knowing that she had to kill genocide and devastation in the previous continuity, would recognize that paula here is a lost cause who should’ve been thrown into the fire because one point of nazism is to fuck like rabbits and produce more of themselves. but noooope, he’s like “nah maybe this bitch ass has a point, just gotta look deep into your heart uwu.”
and as if that’s not bad enough hahaha, he decides to drag donna into his fantasy fulfillment in some kind of pseudo operation iraqi freedom/arab spring bullshit, in 2023 with again, “family nazis” in it because that’s apparently the only thing people actually give a shit out and we have to resort to overdone black and white propaganda like this. like alright tough guy, go read up on the boer internments and say something about the china concentration camps if you really give a shit and aren’t just writing some stupid “hahaha nazis” fantasy. which is funny because he’s said nothing about actual human rights abuse and is all like waaaaahh republicans. and worst part tbh, people like this kind of crap.
but yeah TLDR, old concepts with diana are good, handling it like shit is bad.
Wonder Woman is similar where she spent the most of her first comics fighting Nazis and random enemies of the state with onlya few big named "Supervillains", most of which had no powers at all. I think that really is her sweet spot as a character which is dealing with national threats, military, intelligence, and war. It's a shame she lost her Diana Prince Id and that job at the intelligence agency because its literally so important to her character and sets her entire story up like any secret ID would.
This isn't to take away from her crazy villains and all there different areas like occultism, psychology, etc. because she has a whole range of influences that have been wiped away or rarely get brought up but she was so clearly a well defined hero from the beginning with clear influences and themes that go far beyond anything anyone ever brings up about her which is usually just the gender stuff, which is important, but even that is badly represented and misunderstood.
I think the great thing about Wonder Woman though is that although WW2 was really important to the formation of her character, its not necessarily something she needs to have for her to work. There are always international conflicts, issues, military spats, etc. that can inspire her to leave her island and to go into that weird world of her with no issue. The threat of War always exist so the character always has a reason to leave even in times of relative international peace since there is always a problem or something that can be made up.
Comics rarely write on topical modern issues the way they did in the past anyway so there's very little reason to wait until there is another crazy event to find inspiration for her character.
Just reading her comics and looking at her character i think someone that genuinely wants to modernize the character for today could have a ball doing research on all these things Marston wrote and trying to configure them properly in modern day while keeping the character in tact.
Seeing a modern day Priscilla Rich as whatever young New York socialites look like now would be a lot of fun, maybe she's the biggest name in New York and all the other socialites on whatever their scene looks like, maybe reality tv shows, boarding schools, charity events, etc. all talk about her with such amazement coming from a super wealthy family and having her hand in a bit of everything while she is secretly dealing with deep mental issues that are brought on by her jealousy of Diana
Seeing Etta Candy or the Holliday Girls in a modern sorority from a small local elite womens college/university helping out in war efforts.
Dr. Psycho going back to his roots of using hypnotism, ectoplasm, occult practice, and his position as a respected doctor with a crazy past to be a menance to people.
Paula Von Gunther in modern day with the rise of Nazism apparently in the US and how that would look could be a fun story
Doctor Poison being behind a massive outbreak or illness similar to Covid and all the poltics behind that......maybe she needed to find a way to stifle people while she cooks something up worse, start political outbreak, etc.
Like there is so much there and its really fun to think about
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The Hidden Truth 1.8 Twelve Good Man (3rd September 1964). Written by Eric Corner & Ross Salmon; dir. Don Gale. Featuring regulars Alexander Knox, James Maxwell, Elizabeth Weaver, George Moon, Ruth Meyers & Jacqueline Chan. Guest starring Tenniel Evans, Maureen Pryor, Terence Alexander & Frances Cuka.
The invalid wife (Anne Woodward) of an analytical chemist living in Cornwall is found dead, apparently poisoned. The chemist, Collins (Tenniel Evans), is charged with murder [by Det. Inspector Thwaite (Barry Linehan) and Det. Sergeant Holland (Edward Cast)]. Dr Fox (James Maxwell) is asked to provide scientific evidence to prove Collins innocent. Assisted by Tua Ling (Jacqui Chan), his findings make him the key witness in the case for the defence. But “will the jury be swayed by emotion or by scientific fact?”
Terence Alexander reprised his role as Roger Blake QC, so Dr Fox had to face him again, after 1.3 “Cross Examination” where the QC gave Fox “the most unpleasant half hour [he] could remember” in the witness stand.
Also featuring Frances Cuka as Rachel Pascoe and Maureen Pryor as Belle Atkinson, with Peter Bathurst as the judge.
The TV pages showed some interest in the unusual angle regarding the poisoning plus noting Terence Alexander’s return - and, of course, the first appearance of new regular character, lab assistant, Tua Ling, as played by Jacqui Chan.
The Mirror took up the story, as she’d previously dated Anthony Armstrong-Jones & was therefore News. Tua Ling, the Mirror reporter claimed, “my Chinese secretary tells me means “dignified elegance.”” Producer Stella Richman intended to build up Chan’s role, and had booked her for two further episodes (one of which was 1.10 “One For the Road,” which, happily, exists). (Chan’s brief affair with Armstrong-Jones means that she also appears, somewhat controversially, as a fictional character herself in S2 of The Crown, played by Alice Hewkin.)
The episode was written by prize-winning playwright and marine biologist Eric Corner, who lived in Plymouth, and wrote as a hobby. He scripted the dialogue while his collaborator, broadcaster Ross Salmon, provided the storyline and characters.
#the hidden truth#james maxwell#jacqui chan#henry fox#tua ling#tenniel evans#terence alexander#eric corner#ross salmon#1960s#drama#burninated tv#i'm trying not to make the obvious joke that the marine biologist teamed up with a salmon to write this#but i suppose i just did#so many questions#what IS Terence alexander's character's name? is it an error on imbd (their track record on THT is NOT great) or the show's error?#are he and jm on the same side or opposites again?#enquiring minds want to know#eta: ok so the terence alexander thing was just an imbd error in the cross examination credits#so i could sort that out by rewatching#\o/#i mean it sounds more like lake#but it's 110% not bruce
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Why do you think we don't ever hear of sightings of Jikook out together "ALONE" anymore? Like lately when JK goes out, he is alone or with friends, but never JM & same with JM. There use to be sightings of them all the time. Ice Skating, Movies, Shopping, just standing randomly at a busstop. The last time we know of was White Day, but they still were not alone. I'm not trying to debunk Jikook & I'm not insecure. I guess puzzled is a better word, considering how inseparable they seem in Memories.
And Anon 2 from the opposite side of the spectrum here:
Thinking Jikook are going to be spotted out together publicly sope, Namjoon & Hobi, Hobi & Jimin + how they are with their other friends at other concerts is incredibly unrealistic. They’ve got a image to portray for one, that they aren’t THAT close and two they’re together all the time at “home” why would they go out to a concert together or football game or a museum date. They’re gonna choose less public occasions like the white day dinner with their shared friends that people only knew about because someone took a picture. They didn’t sign anything to make people aware. We wouldn’t of known that hopeminkook went out together with HER until Hobi shared it with us. We don’t KNOW.
I had like 8 anons over this topic asking or throwing fits over the same thing anon 1 is asking about. And I've seen this Same ask being tossed around to other jikook blogs as well. So I deleted most of them, blocked the gross ones and decided I would actually answer this question. And bare with me anon if you actually care to know what I think and aren't just here sowing discourse. Because it'll be a longer post. And some of it aligns with anon number 2. And almost all of it comes back to my favorite phrase to throw at my insecure/other shipper anons. Object permanence.
Again, bare with me. If I forget a "date" I'm working off memory here. So ya know, keep in mind that I, too, am only human.
I think a lot of people struggling with lack of content must mean lack of contact (for jikook). And that's simply not true. But people fall into the pitfalls, especially when they haven't been here since 2013, of seeing content all at once and then being greeted with no content. Or slowed down content, and then they panic. They used to be SPOTTED OUT ALL THE TIME they must just never see each other anymore. Well, let's ACTUALLY look at all those times, and all those dates, shall we?
2014, Jimin and Jungkook go out on a chicken dinner "date." They were never spotted by fans. The only reason we know they spent this time off work, off camera, hanging out, is because Jimin posted about it in his blog. Photo captioned: “for dinner, we ate some delicious chicken~~~ jungkookah, hyung likes chickennnn ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ give me one don’t shove it in my mouth you punk!!!!”
May 2016, again Jikook had a spicy chicken dinner "date" alone, and weren't spotted. The only reason we know about it is because Jimin again, shared it with us. If he didn't share, we would never know. The "before" video too. JK decided to stay up late and hang out/eat with Jimin even though he originally planned to sleep instead. Also in August 2016, fans spotted Jikook out walking in the streets together, JK walking with a bike. When they noticed they got spotted by fans the fan said Jimin "hailed a taxi and they ran away together"
In 2017, when they were given free time by the company, everyone went off to do their own thing and jikook went bowling together. Not spotted by fans, but it was shared in Burn the Stage Ep 5.
In October 2017, they were spotted in Toyko together several times. Which they then also posted about and then never shut up about lol
January 2018, jikook watching the first snow together. Alone. Again, we only know about it because they shared it with us. Not that they were spotted.
February 2018, Jikook went out to dinner and an escape room with Sungwoon, the day after valentines day. Jimin came home early from a Japan schedule right before this too. Left their autograph and was spotted by fans
Summer of 2018, Jikook were spotted seperated from the rest of the members and camera crews before they left Malta hitting up a few stores and going shopping together. They also took the boat back out to watch the red moon together after dropping all the rest of the members back off.
Also summer of 2018, Jungkook told us about how he hung out with Jimin over the break and did bowling and went out for Karaoke. They weren't spotted. We wouldn't otherwise know. And they've mentioned going to do Karaoke together multiple times as well as bowling together many times. And again, summer of 2018, they were spotted by a non army (other kpop stan) standing outside together hanging out at around 1 am.
October 2018, Jikook were spotted by an ARMY riding the bus and they were out alone shopping together.
November 2018, Jikook flew in with the rest of BTS from Japan and then immediately took off on their own and went to dinner as well as then went ice skating and were spotted out together as well as the restaurant sharing an autograph.
In 2019, while in Paris they went shopping together and were spotted by fans. While in London they went out to eat, to see the London Eye and London Bridge with Jimins friends. And in LA they were spotted seeing Avengers End Game together and afterwards went out to dinner together. JK later talked about it at a fansign and they posted a video in the car together coming home. They also stayed late at a concert for a bit when the members had all already left the staging area to watch the fireworks together. Not spotted by ARMY but shared by themselves. In 2019 as well. Jk confirmed that over the break the only members he saw at all were Jimin and Hobi. Not spotted once by fans, but they still spent time together even during all of Jimins traveling around the world.
In 2020, they were rumored to have been spotted at a convenience store together. As well as in September, Jimin confirming they spent the night together.
In 2021, they shared a vminkook trip to the beach, where the Above photo was shared. No one spotted them, but it still happened. As well as in 2021 they shared about how they were practically stuck like glue through the entire time they were in LA (Nov - Dec 2021). Including how they walked together everyday and worked out together everyday. JK Visited Jimins rooms and hung out there all day. And months later, a fan (who happened to be a tkkr since 2014) shared a video of jikook walking into her gym in LA at 3 am to workout alone together. Basically confirming a fan sighting and confirming everything they shared in that vlive as well too. As well as in 2021 (September) they were spotted getting pre travel covid tests done at the same clinic together.
In March 2022, they were spotted by fans out to eat during White Day with a friend, maybe more at a lowkey restaurant. JK also that year shared how when he got out of covid quarantine that he went to Jimins room and got a hug. As well as yoonminkook and staff all went out to eat after the concert in Vegas in 2022, where the waiter who served jikook kept talking about how excited he was to have served jikook, where they sat together at their own table during their closed down restaurant party with drinking and everyone singing lol
So. Out of 10 years of being together as a band. Jikook have been spotted out together by fans approximately 14 times. If we add a few of the others that I included here (which doesn't even scratch the surface of all the times they've shown us how they are always together) that brings us to 25 times they were together that we know of off camera. And again, there is TONS more as well as staff commenting about how jikook are inseparable and literally always together and comments from the two of them about how much time they spend together, etc. You had 3 of those times (2 being a spotted by fans and 1 being told by JK) happen in 2022. And it's technically not even September yet. When in other years, the most frequent year of fan sightings was 2018, in which there were 7 times. And 4 of those times were shared with us by jikook themselves not random spotting. And 4 sightings spread across an entire 12 months, is not THAT much if you actually think about it for the other years to be a drastic decrease like people are saying.
It seems like so much because it is. There is no other BTS duo that has been caught hanging out by fans nearly as much or as often. Nor have any duo told us about hanging out off work/off camera nearly as much or as often. They do, it happens, but not as frequently as our stuck like glue duo. So from 2013 to 2022, there were at least 14 fan sightings of jikook. BUT You recongize that spread over the years, that's a lot of fucking time in between sightings, yes? Good. Glad we are on the same page. I also hope you recongize that during all these years where we got anywhere from zero to 7 jikook sightings of "dates" out and about, they were also being spotted doing things individually as well. Like getting food, going shopping, going on bike rides, seeing concerts. As well as doing those things together with other friends/members and individually with other friends/members. None of that detracts from how often and how close they are. And how they are constantly together. Choosing to spend so much of their free time together. And everytime people lose their minds about it, they make a comment about being "stuck like glue" over that time period.
It's a pattern, and the Rollercoaster of Insecurity has to be as exhausting for everyone else as it is for me. Why be puzzled when it's clear how much time they spend together. Especially when you saw people claiming they grew distant in 2021 (just like they are doing now) and memories proved how they literally were always together and they didn't even know the meaning of the word distance. People need to relax and I'm tired of repeating myself. 😭😅
Anyway. I hope this helped at least a few people recognize that this is just a pattern repeating itself again. And that you get bogged down by content and then confused when content slows down. But Jimin and JK have lives outside of content, which includes their relationship together. And lack of content, does not mean lack of contact between them.
#jikook#kookmin#jikook off camera#jikook dates#jikook over the years#jikook off camera dates#jikook stuck like glue#lack of content does not mean lack of contact#insecure jikook shippers
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After rewatching a few Vlives.
Remember the Vminkook Vlive last year, when Tae suggested the pepero kissing game to Jikook? to which Jimin responded "Have you ever gotten bitten by a pepero?", like saying "no we are not playing that game are you crazy?" lol
And the way the members tease Jikook about their relationship sometimes, like when J hope was teasing Jikook on Jimin's birthday Vlive.
I have a feeling that the members, even after all these years, even knowing very well that they are a couple, have not witnessed the extent of their romantic relationship fully.
Could it be possible that the members have probably never seen Jimin and Jungkook kiss???
And teasing them is a fun way to get a reaction from JM and JK of something that they have never witnessed, and to the members that's what makes it hilarious and fun.
I have the impression that Jikook are still very careful and secretive with the way they carry themselves around the members, even after all these years.
They haven't seen Jikook kiss???
I'll bet my money on YES. YES THEY HAVE.
And it happened just like this.
long beak and everything. Kish kish😙
If we have seen Jikook kiss I bet you they have too A LOT and are suffering from a Jikook wild side PTSD in there to be holding their breaths when those two as much as look at each other. Jikook don traumatized them.
When Tae says let's not look into the camera as shade to Kook I'm gonna wager it's cos he's seen the eye fucking and day light gay robbery and sneaky gay behavior.
Whatever that kiss sound was in that BE YouTube meeting was equally sus but highly debatable so I won't touch it.
one day certain BTS members will write in their memoirs never to be published of the members who masturbated while the roommates slept at night- but we've all done it so no big deal right?
Who hasn't masturbated while their roommates slept in college?? I know I'm not the only one🤣
And yes. We've all been so horny and wreckless we've fucked too while our roommates slept- or so we thought.
Don't worry Jikook. You are not alone. It wasn't once or twice but hey gotta do what you gotta do. I mean shit. We all have needs.
and all that blood to Jimin's ears in Bon V when Suga called Jimin out for misconducting himself is equally wild.
i miss bon V.
Jimin said he was hot suddenly JK pulls up in the biggest body warmer and coat I've ever seen in my life. Don't ask. Don't tell.
only the gay Gods know why Jimin was red.
And I'd refer you once again to Jins expression and reaction after they narrated the neck bite incident or their absolutely nonchalant nonreaction to Jimin kissing Kook's neck- naa Jin freaked out shooketh to his core when he thought Jimin had kissed Jungkook
That shock shouldn't have registered as it means Jin acknowledged how inappropriate an actual kiss would have been between them but also implies he thinks those two are in fact capable of kissing and doing the gay- probably because he'd seen them do it over and over.
It takes a lot for s. Koreans with how normal skinship is to infer gayness in same sex idol interactions especially in the year that it happened. Lots of gay idols bank on the naivety and ignorance of their people and the prevalent unawareness they have about gay dynamics in their culture.
People try to platonize Jikook interactions but time and time again the members through their responses indicate to us that even they don't think those two are platonic at all.
And I know it frustrates Jimin especially that they have these reactions to them because no one works harder than Park Jimin at normalizing his not so normal behavior with Jungkook.
He be like I'm not gay. Then he goes and does this
Naa it's okay we can hold hands, we can say I love you to each other, we don't have to take separate rides even though every one knows we live in opposite sides of the company. None of this is gay at all he says calmly to himself.
He said act normal bitch stop making it impossible for me to enjoy the gay
When you say they don't know the full extent of their relationship it sounds like words I've used to describe their dynamic in the past.
But when I say that, I mean they don't know just how deep in love or how serious they are about each other.
Especially with Jimin.
There's no hope for Kook. We all know this.
And may be I'm projecting myself and my relationships on to them but Jimin does come across to me as one to down play to himself and to Jungkook just how much emotionally invested he is in Jungkook. Prettu sure it takes him by surprise too when he realizes.
Remember when Namjoon pointed out to him just how happy Jk makes him? Or when Suga pointed out how much Jimin laughs because of Jungkook?
He reminds me of all the times I've lied about someone I liked to my friends because I didn't want them to think I was weak and hopelessly in love- mostly because they looked down on the person I liked or didn't have much nice things to say about them. When I'm with friends and this person calls I'll literally roll my eyes, hang up, speak briefly, coldly and distantly and complain about how this person is bothering me to my friends.
But as soon as I leave my friends I'll leave 60 missed calls, 100 texts, voice notes etc.
I'm not saying Jimin does this to Kook but I feel he does straddle that line a bit. He's a hyung dating a younger man whom everyone says is childish and impulsive. It can take a toll no matter how much he over compensates with the flattery and compliments and constantly reassuring himself Jungkook is the bomb.
He tends to down play his feelings there a bit so every now and then when the members catch a glimpse of his actual feelings they become shocked. In my opinion of course.
Think of them both screaming they don't wanna be team mates in run episode but suddenly when Kook sells it too well Jimin goes wait you don't want to be my partner? And his face literally goes☹
While Kook screams internally
Then he went and said, the members think Jungkook is like an actual little brother to him. Now why the fuck would they think that when all you two do is this
Who looks at Jikook and thinks siblings. that's just nasty and gross and I feel traumatized thinking this how Jimin is with his actual little brother. Shivering. Reporting Jimin to Korea PD.
Yet that's always been his go to descriptor. Vague as possible. Kook is my dongseang. Not friend. Dongseang. Our little one.
Yet in the same breath he wants us to believe what he does with this little one is appropriately normal for brothers although if done to him he is quick to cut that out immediately because its gay. Oh Jimin yea. Cut that it's weird. Hope sexualizes him, he goes don't ever do that shit again. Jin does it and he's like sir I'm not here to see all that.
Jungkook says I want you and he goes that audio is bad shut up. Brothers. Mmmkay.
Yet he be the one to call people baby and my love and pull a tongue suggestively at them. I'm looking at him.
there are moments like when Tae asked him to come over when he was crying even though he was with Jungkook.
Jin also asked him if he was gonna come back to the company on Jin's birthday even though he was with Jungkook.
There's something about Jimin's representations of their relationship that makes the members appear insensitive in the way they handle those two most times- either they don't think those two are dating and so they don't watch what they do and say around them- like Tae moving the camera around in Jks room when Jm was hiding there, camera crew sneaking up on Jikook with no regard for their privacy, Namjoon flirting with Jimin in front of Jungkook etc
Or
They just don't think those two are seriously involved which is also misleading. Because sometimes they come off as they know and respect their boundaries and rights over eachother while other times they like fuck this shit right here Jimin is for everybody.
Which i think happens in moments like oh we broke up. We crossed the line once now we just friends, I'm never getting back together with this dude or just members having that expectation of them/Jimin- being the oldest of the two- to end their relationship for the sake of the group for instance and periods of them pretending they've taken that advice but going on to sneak behind the members backs.
I don't know. They be giving off weird vibes sometimes.
I won't forget how embarrassed he was when Jungkook brought up their rain fight. I can imagine he might have texted Tae to let him know he was done with Kook ass for good only to run through the rain to take him back in seconds. Whiplash.
I don't think they have been secretive about their relationship in the group I think they have been reckless in taking the members along the ebb and flows.
Hobi's insistence on calling Jimin by JKs name and vice versa is beautifully telling and don't need many words to unpack. At my current work, there's one boss who has no sense of boundaries who keeps calling me by another boss's name in a jovial way but I just know it's because he feels or thinks, knows or believes that person likes me. Or that we have an intimate dynamic than usual even though i barely exchange words on a daily with this boss and will kick his throat if he dares think of it.
Chances are he is teasing us together because he probably likes me himself. Literal 12 yr old old man and he's married. Shaking my head.
Back in high school I used to be teased a lot too with other guys and girls- some I had crushes on, some I hated to the bone.
That's just the thing with Jikook, everything about them is relatable the moment you stop treating them like a distant mystical fantasy but rather humans with very human behaviors. And unless you have shallow experiences as a human then you'd miss a lotof things and context in connecting and relating to them.
Someone asked me but how can you be so confident about those two, because my lived experiences are real and I'm very grounded in them. I'm not opining they are queer because my sexuality is not an opinion. It's something I'm seeing in them every day and I can relate to. Right down to their relationship dynamic.
There's no smoke without fire so Hobi isn't doing this in a vacuum either. There's something about JM and JK that makes him tease them out of all the members they both interact with. You absolutely right sis.
And the way they are teased is totally different from the way Yoonmin are teased for example. You know they wanna work Kook or Jimins nerves when they pull that yoonmin card. Lmho.
anywho, Jungkook ships himself with Jimin and I support him.
They have matured and are still maturing so I see how that comes off as secretive and careful. I'd say its a need and want for privacy as they grow and just plain professionalism.
Love you💜
GOLDY
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Knee highs and short skirts | N. Jm
Pairing- Na Jaemin x reader
Genre- Smut, fluff, college!au
Word count- 3.82k
Warning(s)- nsfw, softdom!Jaemin, pretty pwp, corruption kink, slight voyeurism? (they make out in public) possessiveness, dacryphilia (getting aroused by one crying or sobbing), fingering (for prep), unprotected sex (play it safe y'all this is a fiction), slightly inexperienced?reader, unintentional overstimulation (unintentional LMAOO), pretty filthy i say. Lyra back at it with smuts lol
Synopsis- It was hard to imagine that all it took was skirts and high knee socks and cute little jumpy girls for Jaemin to get highly turned on, but here we are.
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@kpopscape
It was hard to imagine that all it took was skirts and high knee socks and cute little jumpy girls for Jaemin to get highly turned on.
Watching you as you entered the campus had always been a sort of daily serotonin boost for Jaemin. More like, watching you smile and wave at every passing acquaintance regardless of the fact whether you spoke with them or not was a serotonin boost for Jaemin. You were extremely intriguing.
You're a jolly person, an extreme extrovert, shy at first glance of course but nevertheless outgoing, you'd had little to no problem at all at making friends. Your close ones called you the human magnet and most would agree to it. Could you help it? Company is always better than being alone (unless preferred to be alone).
The first time Jaemin saw you was when you came into the campus first bumping into not his, but a very pissed Jeno's back in a very cliché way which resulted in him accidentally pour out his anger on you, which led to Jaemin having to find you later in the day to apologize on Jeno's behalf. That experience had a very interesting impression on the two lads, well, a not too positive impression on Jeno but the opposite for Jaemin.
The next time Jaemin saw you was in his philosophy class, and god bless you and your perfect complexion complimenting all your curves and edges and oh of course, that cute black and white knee high socks that you wore with a skirt a little too short for him to stay sane and a sweatshirt loose enough to give you adorable sweater paws. That's when wanting to see you on a daily basis became Jaemin's sole reason to attend college.
The next time was weeks into talking to each other, getting comfortable to a point where you went over to each other's house, exchanged numbers, went on small platonic dates and where your friendship started to turn into a touchy one, and you absolutely loved it. Well, Jaemin loved it more than you. Watching your face flush when he'd place his hands comfortably a little too close to there on your thigh had him feel sorts of emotions he's never felt. How your eyes would widen each time he'd place playfull kisses on your cheeks, or when he pulled you onto his lap to cuddle up closer when watching a movie or two, Jaemin lived for your reaction.
Weeks after that was at a small dinner send off party of sort by one of your friends for the senior batch, where seeing you in a white body fitting turtleneck full sleeve with a grey skirt consisting of blue hue with a plain white knee high sock had him crave you more than before. When the occasional touches and kisses turned into a form of self destruction for Jaemin and those longing touches turned into a want to take it up a notch.
And maybe it's the fact that Jaemin genuinely seemed intriguing to you, or the slight intoxicity you felt after a glass of not that strong of drink went down your throat, making you want to comply with everything Jaemin wanted. The expression he wore of pure bliss and satisfaction had you feeling proud of yourself. Like you're doing the right thing, like standing in a hallway beside your classmates bedroom with his hands around your waist in a vise grip, face inches away from colliding into a passionate kiss where anyone could bump into you two was a right thing to do. Like not caring about the all 'good mean no bad' girl image you'd formed to fade away in front of your classmates and probably next the entire campus was the right thing to do.
The next time, well, this moment right now when you went over with him to his studio apartment hand in hand after evening lectures, it had been nearly impossible for Jaemin to keep his hands to himself. How your lips pucker into a pout complaining about all the workload you have, how you jump up in excitement at the sudden strike of another topic you want to discuss with him, or how you seemed so dreamy in general and all Jaemin could do was stare at you with an expression of pure admiration, desire and want to change the whole innocent image you held.
"so Mr. Li asked him to-ah!" and all he could do was pull you onto his lap with his hand on your hip to hold you up in place and unintentionally cut your sweet voice's narration short, but he wanted to hear you more, "I'm listening, doll. Keep going" he cooed at your flushed expression at the sudden proximity, pulling you closer to connect you two by the hip, tapping at your now exposed thighs as your skirt had ridden up at the shift in position to urge you to step out of your daze and continue speaking.
"What.-what are you doing, Jaem?" you ask, resting your hands on his chest as you push yourself a little back to create some space, clearly astonished at the sudden spark of something at the area between your sock clad legs, only to be pulled back closer towards him once again.
"Something I've wanted to do for a long time, keep going, baby, I'll just be doing my thing" and so you let your hand rest on his chest while continuing your story as he looked intently at you.
Being in such proximity with Jaemin had never been a new thing, it's how no matter how many times you'd see him up close you'd still can't look him straight in the eyes for more than a few seconds because of how strong his gaze is that would have you flustered. Ever since the said party, your first proper kiss and Jaemin's first step to calling you his, you wanted to stick around him and just him. You felt like yourself around him and he made you feel so loved that you were willing to let him do anything just to have him around.
In Jaemin's case, it was that he'd not move forward with his plans if he'd noticed the slightest of discomfort in any of your actions, fearing that you'd leave him once and for all before he could even call you his. And so in that way, you two did what pleased the others the best.
Smiling at how you slowly got comfortable with his warmth, he leaned forward, slightly startling you but you nevertheless continued speaking, "Show his homework to him, b-but he couldn't because the only co-opy he had.." you squeal in a breath as you feel his breath fan your exposed neck, courtesy of wearing a slightly deep V-neck to college and of course to the hangout that day, "Had..?"
Jaemin rasped in a voice a little too low to what you're used to hearing, dangerously low that you felt yourself squirming under his grip, which elicits a groan from the male. Not knowing the weightage of your action, you accidentally end up doing it again as his plush lips come in contact with the sensitive skin. "H-had was.. mine-"
"Mine, a pretty word, right doll?" The feeling of his lip moving against your skin was ticklish to describe the best, but good, good enough to have keeping your legs closed uncomfortable from the sudden pool of arousal that bedded itself in your foolishly white panties. "Yes..?" you answer with a shaky voice, moving once again to get rid of the said uncomfortable feeling which resulted in Jaemin throwing his head back to rest on the head rest of the couch, his perfect eyebrows furrowed into a frown, his Adam's apple bobbing up and down.
"Darling, if you keep moving like this, i won't be able to stop myself from doing what all I've imagined doing to you," he spoke with the same low voice of his, which had you unintentionally moving regardless of the empty warning that lingered in the air. That's when you notice the visible switch in the way Jaemin looked at you. Determined to carry this forward and put an end to the friends title to develop into a whole new one.
"What you've imagined doing to me? W-wha-?" you let the question linger, not really expecting an answer when he looked at you with a smirk on his perfect lips. He let one of his hands off from your side to comb through your perfectly set hair while the other wrapped around your torso to keep you upright.
"Should i tell you what I've imagined?" Surely fueled by desire, Jaemin still counted on your consent, basic etiquette and he wouldn't let it go down the drain just because of his lust. The silent look of curiosity gave it away that you really wanted to walk through the dream boys imagination, so you nod your head. "Words, darling. I need words"
Looking at him patiently waiting for your verbal confirmation, you swallow down the nervousness before looking him straight in the eyes with your own widened ones, "Y-yes."
"Hm, well, I imagined having you close to me, just like this, all responsive to everything I do."
"Then I imagined feeling that soft lips of yours once again, the one that I remember so vaguely. Will you let me taste it once again?" He asked, leaning in closer than what your bodies would allow, nevertheless feeling ecstatic at the effect he has on you. "Hm?" you could obviously not say no to the expression he wore, filled with excitement and expectations, happiness, desire and maybe.. love?
Instead of answering, you lean forward, closing off the small distance that kept your bodies from colliding, pressing your lips onto his with least force. The type of kiss got both of you feeling hot, bubbly as you feel Jaemin smile against your lips.
The kiss was a mix of aggression and passion, slow and fast, lust and innocent emotions, one strong enough to deliver all sorts of emotions and of course, sloppy out of desperation, "Still as sweet as ever," he speaks against your lips, beaming down at you with the same smile as you refuse to meet his gaze at the sudden shyness that overtook your desire.
Jaemin's hands slip up the open clothing to grip your thigh raw, the feeling of his cold fingers making you shift position again, looking down and cowering behind your palms as you shield your heated face from the lad, "What's wrong doll?" he moves his thumb up and down, massaging the skin he had his grip on, "Talk to me, princess, do you want me to stop?"
"No!.. I mean, n-no, it's just.. I've never done this before, ever" As though your usual behavior never gave it away that you're too innocent for anyone existing in the world, you confirm Jaemin's suspicion all the more, to which his smile only just widened, the burning desire to change the status if innocence way too strong for him to contain himself now, "I know, darling, I'll go slow, alright?"
At your nod of confirmation, he wastes no time to lift your shirt out of it's confinement inside your skirt and over your head to reveal a not so appealing bra, yet, Jaemin thought you looked absolutely exquisite in it. Just a plain white lace bra, a cherry on top to the innocent image you held that he oh so much wanted to destroy, "W-wait! Can.. C-can this..-nevermind," you sigh, not wanting to disappoint the boy in front of you at your insecurity, "Can what, baby?" you shake your head, "Tell me, love"
"Can..can the bra stay on.. Just this once..?" you ask in a soft voice as Jaemin notices your tiny gestures of an attempt to cover yourself a little, feeling a little too hot, "Do you want it to stay on?" he asks in a voice all too understanding, no signs on the disappointment you were worried about, you nod, "Then it stays on" he smiles before placing a chaste kiss at the valley of your chest and swiftly shifts you on his lap in a way that your back rest flat on his chest, a hand secured on your waist to hold you as close as possible.
You feel a sort of warmth spread through your body at Jaemin's understanding and non persistent behavior towards your request as you allow yourself to relax and go limp on his body, "Do you know how many times i've imagined this? You on my lap.." he moves his legs to break your legs apart, using his knees to spread them and hold them open, "All pretty and for me to touch," He attaches his lips to your neck once again with a better access this time as he lets his hands wander up and down your legs, the hand that held your waist moving down to bunch up your skirt and pull it up to reveal to leaking mess you'd become which made Jaemin twitch and you shy.
"All wet for me, and for me only" you whimper at his shameless words as his wandering hands move closer to your heat, cupping it as he felt up the wetness he'd caused to form there, a throaty groan escaping him while doing so as you feel yourself jump at the friction you got for a second at the place you needed it the most. The thought of someone other than you touching your sex causing your insides to twist, in the best way possible of course.
Jaemin resumed to feel up and down your wetness from over the fabric while still keeping his lips attached to your neck, just to make sure you were wet enough to take him, or better, his fingers.
"J-Jaemin..,"
You let out a loud moan feeling his fingers directly over your clit once he pushed you drenched panty aside, coating his fingers with your arousal before easing one slender digit in, causing your back to arch.
Way too sensitive and aroused, it was obvious you wouldn't be long until your first high, and Jaemin knew that all too well as he felt your tight walls clench over one little finger when he started pulsing it in and out of you and a steady pace, minding to not make it too much for you, though, that thought seemed highly appealing to him, but he'd rather save it for the next time.
"Does that feel good, my love? Because watching you look all angelic like this for me is what I'd imagined next" he speaks against your hair, as you try to close in your leg at the friction you're getting suddenly becoming overwhelming for you, added to that came in Jaemin's words, talks, voice laced in adoration and pure want. "Y-yes Jaem, oh god.. "
Silently moaning himself at your godly sounds, he continues penetrating you to your first ever not self made orgasm, eliciting a loud high pitched scream from your side at the very intimidating feeling at the bottom of your stomach, feeling it undo as Jaemin coaxes your first orgasm out of you,
"Just like that darling, you're doing so well, so good for me" he coos, wanting to drag your orgasm a little more, as he lowers his unoccupied hands to draw small, slow circles around your clit, making you spasm uncontrollably over him, feeling your eyes glaze over at the now painful feeling, you push his hands meekly away from your core,
Shocked over the fact that he got you to come for him with just a finger, he added another one in, muttering silent apologies at your sudden pleas for a break to make sure your stretched out enough for that upcoming activity, "Just a little more, my strong girl, just a little more," though sorry for dragging your orgasm, he felt himself get lost at your small sobs and tiny tears falling down the side of your face which he pecked away.
Increasing the speed of his hands, he presses his thumb over your extremely sensitive bundle of nerves once again, making your arch your back in a painful angle, the crown of your head resting on his shoulder as you shake your head at him, letting him know that it was getting too much for you to handle,
"Come for me once again, baby. We need to make sure you're prepared enough, hm? Can you do that for me?"
As if on command, you let yourself fall apart once again, a loud cry resonating through the room along with you crunching your legs up to stop the burning from the intense high, Jaemin whispering praises against your hair while running his hand up and down your forearm to soothe you. "You did so well, doll, want to stop here?" he inquired selflessly, not caring about the fact that he's extremely hard and it had taken a painful toll.
You take a second to calm your breathing as Jaemin patiently waits for your response. Making sure your breathing is normal again, you shake your head from it's position on his shoulder as he presses a kiss onto your wet cheeks, "You need to feel good too.." you speak with your eyes barely open, Jaemin smiling softly against your cheek, "Love."
You let out a sound of confusion at the random word blurted out by him as you turn your head to look at him, "Say the word 'love' if it gets too much for you, alright?" you nod, at no further actions from his side, you look at him once again, realising he's all about the verbal confirmation, "Alright.." you squeal out, "Turn around and sit facing me, doll" he hurries.
Jaemin rushes to remove his skinny jeans alongside his boxers when you lift yourself up, letting his member stand tall and free from confinement, making him feel like he can finally breathe. Slightly intrigued by the above average size, you look at him nervously which had his head turn at your innocent expression, "We'll take it slow, darling, nothing to hurt you, hm?" you nod before replying out loud.
He gestures for you to hover yourself above his hardness once he got the panties out of the way and discarded it somewhere out on the wooden floor of his housing. "Go for it whenever you're ready" wanting to give you full control of the pace for now, he let you take your time for your first ever time.
Chest heaving up and down in both excitement and nervousness you slowly lower yourself, knees beside his thighs, hands a vise grip on his shoulder, letting yourself engulf just a little of his member, you wince, still a little sensitive from the previous orgasms, his hardness much thicker and bigger than his fingers to just ease down quick despite how easy it'd be considering the wet mess he'd made of you, "Jaemin.. "
Contributing from his end, he pushes his hips up to get inside you a little more, not too fast for it to be painful for you. Slowly, you let yourself ease down on him completely, sitting down onto his lap with his dick inside of you, twitching at the warmth he finally felt. Jaemin hushes your silent cry of slight pain, "You feel so good around me, doll. Such a good girl for me, "
You take the initiative to lift yourself up just a little so that more than half of him is out and glistening from your arousal making him let out an airy moan of satisfaction, feeling your tightness, finally after only having imagined how it felt for so long.
You move up and down slowly, thighs trembling, heart pacing fast with pride at the feeling of making him feel good from all the sounds he let out, mind hazy and body covered in sweat. "oh my, Jae-Jaem-ah!" you fall limp over his body at the sudden thrust from his end, maybe from growing too impatient.
"Should i take it from here, darling? I need to come, will you make me come, doll?" you mumble out a bunch of 'yes!' as your face falls into the nape of his neck where you nibbled at the skin like how he'd done.
Jaemin took control once again, a sudden burst of energy sparking through his body as he set a fast pace in pistoning in and out of you, your slickness and his precum ensuring it wouldn't be painful for you, rather, it felt extremely good. "Look at my good girl taking me so well, you're making me feel so good, darling, I'm so.. Uh, I'm so close-"
You clench around him when you feel a knot forming once again for the third time that evening when you feel his tip brush against your sweet spot, eliciting a loud gasp from you as you bite down a little too harder than intended on his hot skin while pressing the side of your face against his broad shoulders. "Jaemin.. Jaem, I'm.. Oh god"
"I know, doll, i know.. Me too, let go for me" he holds your hips in a grip tight enough to leave a light bruise or two while reaching between your bodies to find comfort on your clit again, making you let out a choked moan as Jaemin ended up being the one doing most of the work.
You fall off the edge once again, this time harder than the previous ones as your tears slip and fall onto his shoulder, seeping into his shirt and onto the skin, making him go faster, chasing his high while dragging yours for a second or two longer.
"Jaem, too much..it hurts-" you sob in a whiny tone which was more than enough to throw Jaemin off his edge too, rubbing fast circles on your clit while ribbons of his essence coat your walls as he lets out a loud, long groan of your name.
He stops his moment on your clit, but continues to move slowly to draw out all the arousal from his member, only stopping when he feels himself grow soft inside of you, the feeling making you clench around him weakly which makes him jolt due to the sensitivity.
Knowing it'd only make a mess to remove himself from inside you, he decides to stay in, muttering out a series of praises that he let linger in the air.
"That.. felt good," you speak into the silence, voice hoarse and weak, worn out from all the activity as you silently thank him for making you feel so good, a sense of accomplishment spread through his chest, finally fulfilling his wish of corrupting you, and most importantly, making you his. He kisses your forehead after pushing out strands of tresses that covered it,
"Anything for my babygirl"
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anyone else notice when jungkook picks jimin up bridal style for the performance jimins on the other side of jks neck not the side where the hickey is ? 🤔 unless bc they were drunk he picked him up the opposite way but i just thought that was maybe interesting lol u think bc theyve rehearsed im sure a million times itd be the same every time or im just having a delulu moment
Yes I did notice that. JK picks JM up for that lift when JM's head is on JM's right side, legs on JK's left side.
And he usually seems to pick him up on that side...
Although we do also have this:
And maybe the whole story was just that - a story? Because, was it a bite? Really?
Yeah, they got carried away, whatever they were doing, ending in a noticeable hickey in plain sight, placed exactly where JK's mole happens to be.
A clear conscious decision seems to have been made not only not to cover it up with makeup or clothing (both viable and possible options), but to bring attention to it, twice, on camera, and then another step, fast forward to the editing (which must have been in well into 2021), when another decision was made to keep all of this in the dvd.
All clear active choices.
They knew exactly how huge this is, and they knew exactly how much noise it will produce, even with the lame ass "JM drunk bit JK on the neck because he wouldn't let him down" explanation.
I mean, there were those who actually bought it as drunken brotherly playfulness, so there you go. Still hiding in plain sight? Or more like pushing the boundaries once again, coming to think of it, it's more like actually tearing right through them.
And if the hickey & Jikook trending wasn't enough of a sign, then we got both JK & JM posting same day, hours apart. That is no coincidence people. Nope.
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