#aqua spoilers

[khoailag]

GOT MOCHI’ED IDIOTS!!!

[hotshitno2]

THEN AND NOW 😭

[oshinohoshi]

Aqua really watched his mom die and said, "Hold my beer."

[aqua-phantasy]

Home to Eddie this update

[akechisstinkyfoot]

maria

[samara-asaika]

Wow.. this moment broke me

The moment in which we were able to see into Aqua's visual thoughts shows what post-traumatic stress disorder could cause him to stay away from a woman he loves so that she can be spared from his misfortune.... Aka your written love story for Aqua and Kana is so painful and yet so damn beautiful

[gabbyp09]

[skania]

Oshi no Ko Chapter 154 Thoughts - Or the many many parallels between Ai/Kamiki and Akane/Aqua

In my post about last chapter, I listed a number of parallels showing that the way Kamiki felt about Ai is very reminiscent of the way Aqua felt about Akane.

I also said:

if Aka pulls that, then that would confirm that all of these parallels are very much intentional.

And what did Aka pull this chapter?

To top it off, now it isn't only Kamiki's feelings that parallel Aqua's. Ai's feelings are very much like Akane's, to the point that she nearly quotes her word for word at times 😭

I'll start chronologically because the amount of parallels is just insane. To keep this short, I won't bring up the Kamiki/Aqua parallels since I already went over those here. I'll just focus on Ai!

Ai didn't want to break up with Kamiki, but she did it because she feared that she and her children would be burdens to him, who was almost on the verge of breaking due to the weight of life.

Does that ring any bells?

Akane didn't want to break up with Aqua, but she was willing to do so because she feared that she and their fake relationship were burdening him by worsening the weight of his guilt.

Ai wanted to stay with Kamiki forever, just like Akane with Aqua.

Ai wanted to carry Kamiki's burden and walk into the future with him, just like Akane with Aqua.

Ai didn't know what loving someone felt like, but Kamiki was the first time she felt she wanted to love someone that way. Akane didn't know what loving someone that way felt like, either. Aqua was her first.

Most importantly:

Ai wanted to save Kamiki, just like Akane wants to save Aqua. While it was translated as "help" in English, in Japanese Ai uses the exact same verb as Akane when she says that she wants to "save" Aqua.

Even their expressions when thinking about their wish are similar 😭

And the thing is that — technically, logically — none of this can be a coincidence, because this is a fictional story and Aka is nearly using copy-pasting to stablish these parallels. But since this is Aka we're talking about, whether this will lead anywhere or turn out to be just bait remains to be seen lol

I feel like Ai isn't only paralleling Akane this chapter though, it's also possible to establish parallels between her and Aqua. Namely, Aqua also broke up with Akane to protect her, Aqua didn't understand what love was and he showed that he wanted to love Akane despite it.

Plus, when Aqua broke up with Akane to protect her, he did so in a way that would deliberately paint him in a bad light — just like Ai with Kamiki.

I'd also like to point out that in this chapter, Ai's feelings are described as, well, "Ai" 愛. In Japan, "Ai" 愛 is the strongest form of love, which can be either platonic or romantic. This is very relevant, because by making Ai's feelings for Kamiki so strikingly similar to Akane's for Aqua, Aka has essentially confirmed strongly implied that the kind of love Akane feels for Aqua is "Ai" 愛, too.

And Ai's "Ai" 愛 was romantic.

For those who aren't familiar with the concept of "Ai" in Japan, I feel like this post explains it very well:

愛 (Ai): sacrificial, unconditional, love for the other person's sake (often parallels the Greek agape, but can extend into philos as sawa mentions) 恋 (Koi): selfish, conditional, love for one's own sake (often parallels the Greek eros) While both can be used for romantic love, you cannot simply swap out one for the other. The contrast between the two shows up clearly in the したい forms of 愛する and 恋をする: 愛(Ai)したい I want to love [someone in a deep, unconditional way] 恋(Koi)がしたい I want to [fall in] love [with someone and experience the "high" of being in love]

If you ask me, the contrast between those two types of love perfectly exemplifies the difference with the way Akane's and Kana's feelings are being written. Coincidentally, Kana herself described her feelings as 恋 (Koi) in Chapter 150 lol

So considering all of this, I'm having the hardest time not seeing Kamiki and Ai as a sort of "failed" Aqua and Akane. Kamiki and Ai were too broken, and neither could handle their relationship in a healthy way despite their best intentions and how much they loved each other. Kamiki was too dependant on her, Ai broke up with him in the clumsiest way possible and Kamiki lashed out in a selfish, tragic way.

I'd argue that despite their mishaps, Aqua and Akane have already shown that they're healthier than Kamiki and Ai were. Even when he was at his lowest, Aqua was self-aware and did his best to not depend on Akane too much. When he faltered, Akane reminded him that it's important that they remain independent so they can have a healthy relationship.

Which takes me to something I think is very important:

Ai thought that Kamiki would be fine without her, but she was wrong. If she had been right, then maybe she would be alive today and she and Kamiki would've gotten back together later down the line.

I'm sure that Akane, too, thinks that Aqua will be fine without her. Aqua most definitely thinks the same thing about Akane.

And for them to be able to have a healthy relationship, it's important for them to be right. They need to be able to be fine without the other, and as of now, it seems like Aqua is finally making progress in that regard.

But what about being happier? Akane was at her happiest when she was with Aqua, and according to Aqua himself, it was the same for him. If we forget all the recent fiascos for a second and entertain the thought of Akane and Aqua once again, I feel like this should be the biggest factor into whether or not they get back together.

After all, if they get back together it shouldn't be because Aqua can't function without Akane. It should be because he wants to be with her (and she with him). So if Aka were to be a good writer allow them to find their way back to each other, this time spent apart could be crucial to let them restart on a healthy base.

But I digress! 😂 Instead of getting ahead of myself, I just want to enjoy the fact that these parallels are right there for everyone to see. At least no matter what happens, we now pretty much have confirmation that the way Aka wrote Aqua and Akane was both, romantic and the strongest form of love.

As for the plot, the fact that Ai's wish was this clear kind of opens an entire can of worms questions-wise. Moreover, I feel like if telling Kamiki that Ai loved him was Aqua's revenge plan all along, things like these would make very little sense in retrospective:

So for the sake of logic, I'm inclined to believe that Aqua, who didn't know what love was and who held a grudge against Kamiki, may have wanted to believe that Ai truly couldn't love Kamiki. He may have desperately wanted to believe that Ai was saying the truth, because otherwise taking revenge against Kamiki would mean going against Ai's wishes.

I feel like Aqua originally misinterpreting Ai's words is supported by the fact that even during the movie recording, Aqua was shown to not understand Ai.

So, what changed his mind? What made him finally realize that Ruby's portrayal was right and that Ai truly did love Kamiki?

Plus, Aqua has had that DVD for years now, which means that nothing was stopping him from realizing that Akane herself was echoing Ai's feelings for Kamiki throughout their relationship.

But I better stop myself right here, because if I start theorizing about this there will be no end to it. The possibilities are endless, so I'd rather just wait and let Aka either pleasantly surprise like he did this chapter me or continue to disappoint me as he is prone to do 😂

edit;

I just realized there are even more parallels when you get down to it. I mentioned before in my Chapter 97 post that during the phone-call that ultimately leads to their break-up, Aqua and Akane are like two ships in the night. They both want the same thing (to stay together), but in her haste to help him, Akane makes a choice that leads to their separation.

The same thing happens with Ai and Kamiki. They both want the same thing (to stay together), but in her haste to not burden him, Ai chooses to walk away from him.

Ai doesn't understand her own love and is thus unable to understand the extent of Kamiki's. She makes the mistake of thinking that the best way to save Kamiki is to not impose more burdens on him, when all he wanted was to stay with her. I'd argue something very similar happened with Akane. She made the mistake of thinking that the best way to help Aqua was to carry out his revenge for him, when all Aqua wanted from her was to remain by her side.

[lunarcrown]

Three scenes from the three chapters of @aquaquadrant ‘s limited life tragic etho and bdubs fic “there is a ticking clock”

It’s SOO GOOD and so fun seeing extra emotion and “behind the scenes” of certain interactions come to light. And I’m also a big sucker for that classic ethubs “waited till it was too late (again)”

[epickiya722]

Gojo saying this to Sukuna twice while Sukuna is possessing his students' bodies...

[minecraftrelatedrandomness]

rats in paris: feb 18th lore recap [apo & martyn pov]

alternatively: things just went from 0 to 100 to 10,000 really fucking fast

spoilers under the cut. it's bad. as in insinuated dead dove levels of bad. [disclsimer: as in a "stream was good but HOLY SHIT" kind of way]

heed the content warnings. reminder that everything is roleplay.

cw: death, identity crisis, sapient trafficking mention??

brief lore recap: apo was raised by cats and his cat family said that if he kills another rat, he would be considered an honorary cat

apo decided that he would kill a "bad" rat, in which case it would be whoever destroyed his goose "wife" (a swim ring), his first "friend"

TODAY: apo wants revenge for their goose "wife" and figures that since bek & el live next door to the scene of the crime, they probably know something

apo drags el to the squeakeasy to interrogate her

el mentions that since the pi-rats live nearby, they might know something about it

apo kicks el out of the squeakeasy, who goes and tattles to martyn

apo sneaks out and goes to talk to ren about it, who decides to mediate the conflict

the two then drag martyn to the library to talk about it

martyn admits to having destroyed the goose "wife" to build ren's desk (as in the white dogwarts banner lining decor)

apo is not happy about this, as expected

ren says that cases like these are resolved on the high seas with a duel to the death

apo then proceeds to obliterate martyn (down to 2 lives now) and fly away

for the record, apo does NOT feel good about having killed someone, and believes it might not have been worth it

apo then tries to talk to one of the apart-hotel cats, who still tries to attack him, causing him to have to escape back to the rattic

cue the identity crisis

apo says that they have elements of both cats and rats but also doesn't fit neatly into either category, and eventually decides, fuck it

MEANWHILE, ren has recovered martyn's items

martyn goes off on ren for letting other rats aboard the ship, seemingly on a whim

and it turns out that ren isn't quite as wholesome as one might have thought he was: reportedly, he's planning to be (and i QUOTE) "trading some of these rats for some very precious cargo indeed"

apo overhears the tail end of this conversation, ren obviously refuses to repeat what he said, and now apo thinks ren is sus

apo also wants to apologize to martyn because apparently he only destroyed the goose "wife" because he asked around and thought it was free real estate at the time

but of course martyn logs out before apo can say anything. she decides they'll probably talk about it during the rats 2 finale

later in the day, in other news, scott decides that if the rats are getting kicked out of the apart-hotel, he might move into mila's lab full-time as her lab partner (and if not, it's back to the sewers he goes)

scott then writes a letter to mila (the scientist npc) explaining all this

TL;DR version:

apo kills martyn as revenge for "murdering" their goose "wife" but regrets it and finally has an identity reconciliation between rat-hood and cat-hood

the reason ren was collecting everyone to be part of the crew may or may not be because he's involved in rat trafficking

scott intends to stay with mila (the scientist npc) in the event the apart-hotel shuts down and the rats are otherwise evicted

[yuseirra]

family planning~

Ai does say she wanted a big family. Maybe it could have become even bigger than four if they had gotten together?

[oshinohoshi]

A better end for Oshi no Ko?

Warning: series end spoilers!

[myaatwins]

so. i know this isn't nothing new and there's probably a thousand (far more eloquently written) posts about this but! in light of chapter 166 i just wanted to reiterate this once more.

the movie arc seems like it's supposed to be about other characters understanding ai. who was ai hoshino? what were her flaws, her hopes, her dreams? she wasn't a goddess–far from it–so who was the real ai, the person rather than the idol?

and it failed on delivering. so bad!!!!

sure we have a bit about ruby Starting to understand ai. nothing from aqua because who cares right. because if aqua actually came to understand ai how could we have the tragic but "hopeful" ending?

ai's dream was never to perform at the dome.

the dome was always ichigo and miyako's dream. ai, being the The Ultimate People Pleaser, just smiled and nodded–acted as if she were happy.

so it's really weird how performing at the dome was reframed to be ai's dream, the fate that she could never fulfill–but hey it's okay because ruby will!!!

there was no need for history to be rewritten and this actually just makes it seem (no matter what the actual intent was) that the others never did learn to see through ai's facade.

(also might i add that this is also harmful to ruby's character in the sense that she is not allowed to have her own dreams. it would have been perfectly fine for her to want to perform at the dome because it was what SHE wanted to do but. alas after a certain point of the story ruby is not allowed to exist outside of brocon jokes or to be anything other than ai 2: electric boogaloo)

was her dream for ruby to be an idol and for aqua to be an actor?

when ai said that she imagined a future where ruby was an idol and aqua was an actor she didn't say it because that was her dream.

personally i think that because ai was dying and she knew it would cause her children pain she wanted them to know that their futures could still be bright and that they should have hope!! i don't even think she gave it much thought other than that they looked happy and like they had fun performing!!! which made her happy!!!!!!!

but she never would have imposed that future on them. ai knew about the entertainment world and she never would have forced her babies to be a part of it unless they wanted to.

so what were ai's dreams? easy: for her loved ones to be safe and happy.

this. that's it.

so

"the future that mama [...] illuminated for me"

is it though? would ai have wanted this? would she want the man that she had loved–who she had known as a boy who was hurting and who needed someone to be there for him–to die as nothing more than a cartoonish villain? would she want ruby to have to pretend she wasn't miserable so she could fulfill ai's not-dream of performing at the dome? would she want her precious son, who she loved from the moment she saw him on the ultrasound, to die a gruesome, painful death, even though he so desperately wanted to live?

not in a million years.

[artisanscarecrow]

"You never stopped lighting my way back."

I am gonna keep saying this forever, but if Nomura didn't want me to ship Terra and Aqua he wouldn't have made them so shippable ok

Drawn using Procreate.

[tethrarisms]

I was NOT expecting Pokemas to give me Hardenshipping and Cyrus content in the very last day of the year like they're my everything, I'm really grateful, thank you greedy devs 🛐🛐🛐