#apply for so. thats another layer im terrified of

[the-kipsabian]

i was having a pretty good day and then i was made to look at school applying stuff again since its that time of the year and now i have heightened anxiety and i want to curl up and cry :)

[bladekindeyewear]

HS^2 bloggin’ mainline 2020-08-23

More homestuuuuuck

I’m a little tired today so I don’t expect much intelligent analysis out of myself, but if anything classpecty happens I doubt I’ll be able to help myself regardless.

oh, always

(EDITS: added note on horn colors, link to ask on potential Blood powers reference)

> CHAPTER 12. Really Convoluted Metaphorical Horseshit

cuuute

In the bowels of a different ship, at a moment in time that is not pinpointable in either direction from the previous interaction, another Dave raps quietly to himself.

another dave raps quietly to himself.  i am glad that phrase exists it brings me joy

(LATER EDIT: A friend on Discord pointed out that throughout this entire update, Karkat's horns are #FF0000 red. They were normal candy-corn colors in previous glimpses at the ship crew, though they used a dark single-color shortcut typical of old Homestuck at one point... but THIS time it stays STARK red even when we zoom in close later. Is this just artistic liberty? Did Karkat color his horns for fashion? Does this happen to red-bloods like the Sufferer after a certain age? Just how much time has actually passed, here? We might have to wait for the commentary for this one.)

KARKAT: I WAS SAYING I THOUGHT WE MIGHT GO, I DUNNO, ANYWHERE ELSE ON THE ENTIRE SHIP WHILE THE CLOTHES WERE WASHING. KARKAT: SEEING AS THIS DECREPIT MACHINE WE WERE SO BLESSEDLY PROVIDED WITH MAKES A WHIRRING SOUND SO PANCHAFINGLY ARHYTHMIC THAT IT THREATENS TO ERADICATE THE ENTIRE CONCEPT OF TEMPO FROM THE UNIVERSE.

Karkat really has chilled out hasnt he?  like this is surprisingly level for him, and that fact is hilarious.

KARKAT: AND YET SOMEHOW BASICALLY ALL THAT HAS HAPPENED SINCE WE STARTED THE LOAD IS THAT YOU’VE BEEN USING IT AS A FUCKED UP BEAT TO WHISPER TO YOURSELF ABOUT FLOWERS TO.

oh gosh that’s why he’s rapping

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DAVE: kanaya was telling me this kids story the other day about this dude who didnt cherish a flower enough until it peaced out to do flower stuff idk its not pertinent to the story DAVE: except the flower was a person DAVE: because it was a metaphor

Oh right, coming back to the Little Prince stuff I was too lazy to metaphor-deep-dive into, and literally asking the same questions we were asking about who the Little Prince’s story applies to mapped here if anyone at all, like Dirk and such, or what biases were in the retelling of it and the way Kanaya phrased it.  So now we’re practically mocking it by deep diving it here, hence the last page’s “DAVE: i was just thinking through some really convoluted metaphorical horseshit”, which means we’re both about to further explore AND shit all over the existence of this story metaphor until it doesn’t mean anything and most of the meaning we drew from it earlier is made a joke~

well, not “we”, cause I was too lazy, so... y’all

DAVE: anyway what goes down in the story is that once the flower lady is out of the picture DAVE: the main character goes around making all these connections between her and everything else in the universe until every damn thing feels like a symbol for how much he fucked up and how much he will never see her again KARKAT: THIS SEEMS PRETTY FUCKING INTENSE FOR A KID'S STORY DAVE: yea thats pretty much what i said

Oh holy shit.  That’s yet another way to put it.  Are we doing a whole moral takedown of the Light aspect today?  cause it sounds like we’re taking a dump on the Light aspect and RoboRose getting too obsessed and immersed in it, which would be excellent

DAVE: but i guess its not so much what the story was technically textually about but more like the version of it kanaya internalized and then told me when we were talkin about how she misses rose

exactly

DAVE: so like now im taking the story she told me she was projecting her feelings onto and projecting my feelings on top of that

yes absolutely, you just rephrased it a different way with that exact same bias

DAVE: this is just one big game of emotional projection telephone so feel free to go paraphrase it to roxy later and make it about whatever fuckin thing youre currently missing

perfect. i need an emoji for that Italian thing for when you pinch your thumb and forefinger together and kiss it

ah this’ll do:

its like the expression “choice” but in nonverbal form

[...] whatever fuckin thing youre currently missing KARKAT: YOUR ABILITY TO GET TO THE POINT DAVE: gotem DAVE: anyway you’re not gonna have to miss that skill of mine for long DAVE: get ready for this shit because i am about to slap you with the point so hard youll fall ass first into the washer DAVE: just scrambling around in there getting all sudsy DAVE: but your brain is gonna be so blasted from the mindfreak of a point im about to make that there wont be anything left to clean

Anytime dave is told to get to the point he is contractually obligated to spend at least 20 seconds talking about how he’ll get to the point in a way that is not getting to the point

DAVE: so its genuinely cool that kanaya can go around creating meaning that may or may not be actually present in every little thing DAVE: connecting every feeling she has to the idea of her wife existing out there DAVE: so i told her she should keep that shit up DAVE: but im having the opposite issue where im struggling to find anything to be that kind of tether because every single thing i could possibly consider about what it is were doing just reminds me of yet another thing to be afraid about

Great examples of Light being good and bad!  Attaching strands of connective meaning to everything.  --though, in Dave’s case AND Kanaya’s case you could argue it’s both bad in terms of effects.  That it’s great for Kanaya to care, but that she should be able to divest herself and live on her own terms without idealizing Rose literally everywhere she looks, personal growth which would be useful in helping bring Rose back to her in the first place.  The struggle they’re looking forward to is largely philosophical, not just physical, and until Rosebot acknowledges that she was wrong it’s not over.

DAVE: everything fuckin sucks huge cosmic donkey sack and im terrified KARKAT: OK, SO I FEEL LIKE YOU SKIPPED A COUPLE NECESSARY STEPS IN YOUR POINT CLARIFICATION PROCESS.

Pretty sure Dave was on the same page as most Epilogue and start-of-HS2 readers.  This situation is pretty bleak to dump our heroes into, no matter how much we believe will be resolved in the long run.

DAVE: ok but were you going with sweet or savory please give me that much at least KARKAT: YEAH IT WAS GOING TO BE SUNDAE-BASED. DAVE: nice KARKAT: YEAH. KARKAT: DO YOU WANNA WATCH MORE GBBO AFTER THIS? DAVE: absolutely

--ah, Great British Bake-Off, can’t say I’ve indulged

do they still have that?? did they save it from old Earth?  or did they go where unflooded Britain used to be and say hey, new show reboot

KARKAT: GREAT. ANYWAY, LIKE I WAS SAYING, FOR THE LOVE OF SWEET HUMAN CHRIST, PLEASE BACK UP TO WHATEVER THE FUCK YOU’RE ACTUALLY SCARED OF. KARKAT: ALSO COME HERE, IDIOT.

That last line is like, exactly as fucking sweet and awesome as we imagined their relationship to be.  :)

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OH MY GOD THAT’S ADORABLE

DAVE: ok yeah this is a better position to unleash all my inner fears n anxieties from

indisputably.

DAVE: those times its like my mouth was saying words about the situation wherein our friends are AWOL and maybe dead but my brain wasnt fully letting me experience the emotion that goes along with them DAVE: man its like i cant even start genuinely thinking about how afraid i actually am for rose and john without my brain flippin its wad and whiting out DAVE: like haha fuck i hope theyre ok DAVE: now i better make a fuckin joke before i succumb to the gaping mouth of despair waiting for me to fall in it as soon as i look down and acknowledge that its there ogling how juicy my ass looks as it trembles with terror

I really hope that the writers of HS2 know full well that this feeling? the one Dave is describing here? is what many of us who got way overinvested in the well-being of Homestuck’s surviving characters felt reading the Epilogues and Homestuck^2.  So I really hope they’re working through it in a way that will result in a preponderance of GOOD THINGS happening and hope-filled situations.  Cause that “can’t even think about X” feeling is too familiar, and if they understand it as well as it LOOKS like they’re getting to, I’d really like them to give us a helping hand healing.

I think that’s what they’re going for?  Seems hopeful for me to think so, but they HAVE been doing better as HS2 has been going forward, from an emotional standpoint anyway; definitely better than the Epilogues.  And I’ve worked through some of that stuff with the help of that, because it’s MUCH easier nowadays to think about Homestuck without my gut clenching.

DAVE: i guess im just fucked up about how to worry about dirk and be angry at him at the same time DAVE: because if i get as unholy pissed at him as i sometimes wanna be i also gotta admit to myself that maybe i coulda done something different there

Mhmm, Karkat’s potentially a pretty good person to speak with here since he’s done so much work trying not to feel responsible for everything that’s ever gone wrong.

DAVE: also like DAVE: and this by the way adds a whole other layer of guilt on there that i dont really know how to fuckin reckon with but DAVE: even with all the shit hes pulled and the fact that we are more or less heading toward having to take him down DAVE: whatever that is gonna mean and whether or not he planned it like that DAVE: i just DAVE: me and him had come so far with each other and it was really cool for a while to have him and i DAVE: ugh DAVE: i dont WANT to hate him

Yeah, Dirk and Jane’s heel-turns were really shitty for anyone who was a fan of them in the fanbase, as well.

KARKAT: WELL THEN QUIT FUCKING PICKING AT THE SEAM ON MY SHORTS AND SPIT IT OUT. THEY'RE BARELY HANGING ON TO THE DEFINITION OF "SHORTS" AS IT IS.

That is an adorably real boyfriend-laying-in-boyfriend’s-lap thing to do

DAVE: the part i mentioned before about how we really have no goddamn clue how long this trip is even gonna take DAVE: i cant help but feel like its barely getting revved up DAVE: and for me and roxy and jade and callie and kan thats normal shit at best and boring at worst but we all have our immortality to thank for that DAVE: we can just dick around in space for near-eternity waiting to catch up to our friends who may or may not be our enemies now and itll be fine DAVE: i mean no itll be categorically miserable DAVE: but well survive it KARKAT: HOLD THE FUCK ON. DAVE: but you KARKAT: DAVE. DAVE: no lemme say this

Oh god damnit.  Karkat’s limited lifespan.  As if we hadn’t ALREADY covered a nauseatingly extensive gamut of disheartening topics of conversation.  We really have to confront every shred of misery in their past, present and future one after the other after the other in the Epilogues and HS2, don’t we?  >:(

I guess it had to be discussed, though.

DAVE: we dont talk about it much and i got shit to say about it DAVE: its not like i never thought about how youre mortal before but i just thought wed be able to figure it out before it mattered DAVE: come up with some kind of plan DAVE: i was just distracted being happy with you i fucking guess and so i didnt think up a way to fix it DAVE: and now thanks to dirk we have to work it out right the fuck now DAVE: because i cant spend this trip just sitting around watching you get old and die

Jesus.  I mean, WE know(?) that it’s not gonna be THAT many years, but THEY don’t know that.

Unless it really IS going to be that many years and HS2 is going to shamelessly take a fucking sledgehammer to our feelings for no goddamn good reason.  Which it won’t!  Right???  >:T

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Dishwasher ding

> Dave: Grapple with the clean, soggy consequences of the passage of time.

Hey, don’t make it a metaphor here. --though, fuck.  I suppose we are dealing with everyones dirty laundry.  God damnit.  SURE, deal with it all story but then GET IT OUT OF THE WAY AND PUT SOME SERIOUS FUN AND LAUGHS IN HERE so we don’t feel like we’re wading through an entire garbage dump!!!  *click*

Karkat’s eyebrows-only mouthless frown is really cute.

> ==>

okay Karkat explain the nope you’re lodging

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*put*

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*foot*

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DAVE: ok go on

I mean I at least appreciate the time investment in adorable boyfriends.  That’s definitely something of SOME good value they’re giving us in exchange for this misery

> ==>

That Karkat image makes me wanna do that red-shaky-gif-thing with it

KARKAT: IT'S NOT LIKE I'M NEW TO THE PARTICULAR MOOBEAST WRANGLING EVENT OF SOMEONE I PREVIOUSLY LOVED BRUTALLY TURNING ON ME AND LEAVING ME TO TRY AND CRAM MY FEELINGS ABOUT THE SITUATION BACK TOGETHER ALL ON MY OWN.

True

KARKAT: HE DID THAT ON HIS OWN. AND WE MADE THE CHOICE TO GO AFTER HIM ON OUR OWN.

Yes, and you’ll possibly convince him more of that over time, though not in this short conversation

KARKAT: I WAS FOLLOWING YOUR LITTLE TRAIL OF COOKIE CRUMB FEARS UNTIL IT LEAD TO THE BIG SNACK FINALE OF WORRY ABOUT MY FRAGILE MORTAL MEATSACK. KARKAT: IF I HAVE SOMEHOW NOT BEEN CLEAR ABOUT THIS WITH YOU YET, LET ME GO AHEAD AND RECTIFY THE SITUATION RIGHT THE FUCK NOW. KARKAT: HANGING OUT WITH YOU ON THIS LONG TRIP TO WHO THE SHITTING FUCK KNOWS WHERE IS QUITE LITERALLY THE HAPPIEST I HAVE EVER BEEN IN MY ENTIRE MEAGER EXISTENCE. KARKAT: I'M SO ABSOLUTELY BLISSED THE FUCK OUT OF MY MIND TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT YOUR STUPID IMMORTALLY SMOOTH HUMAN FACE SKIN EVERY DAY AND NOT HAVE A COMPLEX ABOUT IT.

D’AWWW

And with that darkly angry expression too, that’s PERFECT

I mean it’s true.  What exactly would they be doing DIFFERENTLY on Earth C other than enjoying each other like this?  It’s pretty fucking great.

...hm.  Isn’t this journey-not-the-destination stuff pretty Breathy?  Karkat’s proving more balanced by the moment.

KARKAT: AND I'LL BE STRAIGHT WITH YOU. IT'S NOT LIKE I HAVEN'T BEEN EXPERIENCING SOME COMPLICATED GUILT, MYSELF. KARKAT: THE FACT THAT I'M HAVING THE TIME OF MY LIFE JUST FUCKING CHILLAXING AND BEING IN LOVE IN SPACE IS A CLEARLY INCONGRUOUS WITH THE REASON I'M ACTUALLY HERE CHILLAXING TO BEGIN WITH, AND I'M NOT LETTING MYSELF FORGET THAT, EITHER.

Pff.  He feels guilty for ENJOYING IT so much.  <3

KARKAT: BUT I RESENT THE IMPLICATION THAT MY HAPPINESS IS REGISTERING FOR YOU AS YOU HAVING TO JUST "SIT AROUND AND WATCH ME GET OLD," BECAUSE I KNOW YOU KNOW IT'S MORE THAN THAT.

I’m glad Karkat knows that DAVE knows somewhere in him that it’s more than that, because yeah, if Karkat thought he DIDN’T know that at some level that’d be a reason to take MUCH MORE SERIOUS offense.

KARKAT: LIKE, JESUS, DAVE. YOU KNOW I'M AFRAID FOR YOU, TOO, RIGHT? KARKAT: OR DID YOU FORGET THE WHOLE HEROIC DEATH THING? KARKAT: I WORRY ABOUT LOSING YOU FAIRLY FUCKING REGULARLY.

Hah!!!  Point taken.  Karkat must view Dave as practically more fragile than HIM.

KARKAT: ONE: WE'VE BEEN THROUGH SO MUCH HELLACIOUS PANWARPING TRAUMA THAT I REFUSE TO NOT ENJOY THIS SHIT WHEN I FINALLY FUCKING GET IT, NO MATTER HOW LONG IT MAY OR MAY NOT LAST. KARKAT: TWO: IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE DOING NOTHING. WE’RE MOVING. WE’RE WORKING. WE’RE HEADED SPECIFICALLY TO A PLACE WHERE WE WILL UNDOUBTLEDLY ENDURE YET MORE FUCKING HELLACIOUS PANWARPING TRAUMA. KARKAT: AND THREE: WE'RE DOING THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE FRIENDS WHO WE CARE ABOUT THAT NEED US. THAT IS OUR FOCUS, HERE. NOT OUR FEAR. IT'S ABOUT THE PEOPLE WE HAVE TO SAVE. KARKAT: SO DON'T FUCKING WORRY ABOUT ME, DAVE. I'M FINE.

Okay, this is great and wholesome.  I am now retroactively GLAD that this topic got brought up.  :)

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Dave is still afraid. There is a part of him that will always be, he thinks. He has accepted this about himself. There is another feeling coursing through him too, though. It’s something he's felt before, though never quite so intensely. He looks up at Karkat and understands, viscerally, the simple power his words have. They pump through Dave’s own body, alive and warm and true.

He wonders if Karkat realizes it, or if he’s just, as always, saying what he feels as he feels it. Dave doesn’t attempt to dissect it further. There will be time for that later.

Every really loving moment like this is sort of undercut by the fact that it’s also, in some senses, part of alt!Calliope’s narration and, by extension, her fanfiction.

EDIT 2: There's also either a hint to potential Blood powers or even an explicit Blood power use here that I didn't recognize. I'm leaning towards it's-laying-the-groundwork-for-future-use-of-Blood-powers-but-isnt-magical-in-this-case.

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Smooooch!

That was nice.  Still gonna wait on doing any commentary til next time or a Bonus update or two, cause I’m beat.  See y’all next time!

[undyinglantern]

saying anxiety had the largest negative effect on my life and only after realizing how bizarre that must sound. "really? worse than an eating disorder?" well, that definitely fucked up my relationship with my body and perspective with health in general (to the point where talking about food/health/diets/exercise in any sort of specificity makes me want to squirm), but imagine the help i could have asked for if everything wasnt already so terrifying. "worse than depression?" yeah i spent.. years actively wishing i would die but i never really acted out in an attempt to make it happen. if anything, it only made me (far too) passive about life. anxiety on the other hand? i cant even go to the grocery store without having prepared a list beforehand- probably at least a day in advance. if theres no self checkout, thats another layer of stress. applying for jobs has quite literally, no exaggeration, left me in tears and probably will again in the future. and im still not sure which is worse between never hearing back from them or receiving an email telling me about my rejection. for fucks sake, i cant even make a phone call to order pizza because i choke up at the thought of dialing the number and having to speak up. anxiety is what led to that extreme depressive period to begin with. those fears became a reality bc i let those fears consume me and shut myself up into a shell which in turn only made things worse, but there was nothing i could do about it as a minor since my parents arent the type to understand mental illness and now as an adult im not exactly equipped to handle it in the healthiest ways nor do i have the money to seek professional help. not to mention the extra layer of [pandemic] to consider which really has done me no favors in getting better as its only an excuse to lock myself inside longer than is probably healthy. avpd is a rarely diagnosed illness and pretty severe to boot, so ive always been hesitant about using that, but the thought of "what if" about it always lingers in the back of my mind even after all these years.

[charliepritchardart-blog]

Timothy Morton, Erik Davis and the SGC meeting

Uncanny Objects 36:50- ridding the concept of nature not about coral, the twisted and weird, what got us into modernity is the divide of nature non human beings are in social space, in your handkerchief, bacteria, etc.. this means social space was never completely human, no real difference between where i live and the other beings live, the word nature, nature is only really a concept of good and bad, but everything is nature so what is good and bad, nature is inhbiting the 'intimacy' with the non human, ED 'in hyperobjects- when we lose the world and we are left with intimacy, humans craft their little bubbles of their world, only thinking about the narrative flow of the bubble, but suddenly when inhuman emptiness and non-human encounters and events and hyperobjects occur, then the zizekian example of the toilet occurs, you flush your waste then poof its gone, but its actualy still a part of the world, the outside of my world, the outside doesnt really exist, then realising that this applies in some sense to the self, this can be scary and overwhelming, but also has the buddhist tint of being intimate with object, terrify to white western guys that its horrifying for a few secounds then get old, the UNCANNY freud talks about coming out of your mums vag, your horrified for a few sexist secounds, but when you relax about it you notice this is the way things are, you notic, it becomes different, a nighmare becomes, funny silly, then your being impinged and oppressed, but then you relax into it, waht is happening is some basic connection between me these 'outside objects' non human beinngs that are ungraspable (talked about erlier).  INTRINSICALLY UNGRASPABLE. so there is an intrinsic sadness that melts into lower stimulation depression space, pressed down accepted melancholy, there is a connection that is intrinsically ungraspable- horror melancholy rediculous melancolia sadness equvalent to the experience of beauty, the sadness is feuled by a longing to reach out and grasp i want to reach out and grasp i want to hold, its the buddhist secound noble truth,

The truth of suffering (Dukkha)

The truth of the origin of suffering (Samudāya)

The truth of the cessation of suffering (Nirodha)

The truth of the path to the cessation of suffering (Magga)

VISUAL PARRALELLS OF PROTIENS AND PARTY POPPERS

we live in the realm you cant delete it but you can have different positions on it, maybe i can hold o really tight, but maybe i can let things come and go, to have a more intimate relationship with them, one of the things that you can loosen your grip on is the MIND, never be completely graspable, what happens when you meditate, you realise it disappears, it  is not somehting that you can completely grasp, so when you meditate you come to realise that there is not nothing, there is somthing, but its not you grandaddy somthing, its what in some text they cal buddha nature, this kind of etherial, energy flow, that is not exactly me, there is somthing sad and spooky about it, but inside the sad and spooky is an uncontitional joy// layers of guilt-shame horror melancolia sadness, longing joy, instead of trying to delete these stages you let them happen but then you go inside then and explore the encrypted frozen wisdom, inside the consufion, inside the confusion

the strong image in this work is the 'charnal ground' to not flee from the lonliness the paranoid dispair, looking at our current condition as a greif space, in the current (ecological) situation spinning out of control, but the charnal ground look this up, its a space where you can't separate being alibve and not alive, there are these spectars and spirits, and gohsts, a place where the difference between a corpse and something that is alive as chemicals or something that is biological, kind of breaks down, 

BUT what this space actually is is modern science biology is fundamentally saying that life forms are made of non-life, but you cant draw this thin rigid distinction between them its exactly what happens in charnal ground awareness you are ready to confront a thick reigon like population with all kinds of weird anomalous undead creatures, and thats how to think of ANIMISM, its not this firm distinction between life and death, its accepting that things have this wierd uncanny slightly PARANOIA INDUCING, but also funny and silly category of confusion of kind of crossing of boundaries there is life and there is death you do die and things do live but nevertheless we cant really distinguish, its exactly the same, because of the fact, that we cannot distinguish the difference between appearing and being, [substantiate this erlier],  but in fact there is a difference between appearing and being at the same time, so we encounter these weird contradictory uncanny beings much more what like first peoples actual experience was like, a sort of ontological paranoia, and we have been trying to get rid of that paranoia, but maybe there is somthing interesting and true in that paranoia, people who are diagnosed like my brother with schizophrenia, in this culture, they have been demonised and pathologised, but in another kind of culture, they are seen as a kind of shamen because they can bridge worlds, so maybe they need to have some kind of training, so all the ideaas that in order to see anything at all, you have to be hallucinating really, which is neurophysiologically correct, there is so much more data to beaming into you phalimus, from INSIDE your brain, to what is coming from outside of your brain and if it didnt come from inside your brain, like when you are in a darkened room and you see stuff, like a prisoner in solitary confinement, if that was not happening then you could, see stuff and i would argue that you couldnt think, thinking is basically like a hallucination, that you believe in, then we have to get into the possiblility of human/plan co evoloution, and the fact that thoughts themselves might be the product of interaction between humans and psychedelic plants, this goes back quite some way, but what happenes when you have a thought at all is like some version of a plant that is happening in your mind, the thought is not your thought its more like a flower opening, your way of seeing that 

ED- Animism is coming back, the latest twist that RESONATES [THE ACT OF ALIGNING} things that have been eclipsed, resonance does not mean we are going back to animism, this is not a return there are all sorts of resonances that stretch beyond the modern, budhism is a beutiful way of lining up the resonances in an insightful way

A KIND OF FUNCTION FOR SPECULATIVE IMAGINATION

what is your meditative practice today, TM- formally studing, NINDRO, tibettian, im a student of zogchan a form of esoteric tibettian buddhism, doing a lot of visualisations of enlightened beings like an allergy medicine, allowing to tolerate the vivid- withdrawn yet vivid quality of your very own mind, which we do tend to delete, relaxing with the idea that since we left the paleolithic, experience doesnt have you, meditation is about letting experience happen freely, then what you realise is that experience is suffused with its own kind of stability and energy

SGC NOTES

interior architechture

formed plansthinking about ideas and cultural impact

ellie williams, 

meetings every thursday

interior architechture projects, 

teams- exhibition production teams not thematic

map advertising catalogue, publication WRITING?, links essays could essays be published as part of the catalogue?

GROUPS 36 people

publicity writing and viuals

1.writing team, catalogue, venue press release

2.visual team, visual appearance of posters layout, 

3.publicity, sending stuff to press audience

Open saturays, so the publoic can see the work, this is communicated through the punlic

opening night can be an event, with performances etc, so the opening has to be a real event,

4. team can be production, in charge of the private view, wall building, materials 

other roles, project managing,

Budgeting

travel budget from the SGC, 

fine art can provide transport to get work there (VAN) fuel, volkwagen caddy

poster hooks

the course will find the publicity 

installing

auctioning work? bids on the work, silent auction, for sale?

research pool?

coordinators- charlie, debbie locke

floor plan

ok I would like to kick off the research pool idea, by showing you guys this https://techgnosis.com/uncanny-objects/

this is Erik Davis' podcast, hes amazing and has loads of good Art Science stuff to listen and read, in this one he talks to TIMOTHY MORTON a guy who popped up in the cultures of nature workshop about animism and our good ol friend Object Oriented Ontology and could relate to the study of proteins in an interesting way 

"biology is fundamentally saying that life forms are made of non-life, but you cant draw this thin rigid distinction between them"

ideas and collaboration with interior architecture whether people want to collaborate  they can,  so we have to know, or at some point share individual ideas with each other,

hyperobjects, global warming