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Doxxing himself was wild
#anyway epic is really good#I love a good Greek myth musical#mandi’s art#digital art#fanart#epic the musical#the odyssey#odysseus#epic odysseus#the cyclops saga#epic the musical fanart#greek mythology#procreate
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I think, perhaps one of the funniest things to come from EPIC popularising the Odyssey is that now a ton of people think Poseidon wanted to kill Odysseus.
In the Odyssey, Poseidon has no intention of killing Odysseus. In fact, part of the whole reason Zeus lets Poseidon do whatever he wants even though he thinks Odysseus is rad and should get to kiss his wife is explicitly because Poseidon had no intentions of killing Odysseus. Poseidon wanted to pay back the suffering/inconvenience blinding Polyphemus would have caused. It's a really abstract thing tbh. How do you pay back someone permanently disabling your son? Poseidon's solution was just to amputate Odysseus from his other half; i.e. Penelope. The end game was never murder, it was always an endurance race.
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(Od. Book 1: Zeus reassuring Athena that he is not, in fact, a part of Odysseus Hater-Nation. Trans. Robert Fagles)
Also, for those wondering if there's any sort of in text reason for why Poseidon wasn't around in God Games - at the time in the Odyssey when Athena petitions Zeus to let Odysseus leave Calypso's island, Poseidon was -checks notes- on vacation in Ethiopia. Yep. He left to Ethiopia for a festival and thusly was very much absent for Athena's whole "please let Ody go? Please? 🥺" request.
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(Od. Book 1: While Odysseus was suffering, Poseidon went to party in the east)
I am begging y'all to read the Odyssey. It's a comedy for everyone except Odysseus and Penelope who are, in fact, suffering 24/7 365.
#ginger rambles#ginger chats about greek myths#Sorry for the quality of the quotes but I'm too tired to google a pdf vers of the Odyssey and then edit those so y'all are getting#my crunchy pictures from one of my physical copies of the book lol#it's reiterated multiple times that Poseidon doesn't want Odysseus dead too#he is literally just driving him mad on the ocean because that's what Odysseus condemned Polyphemus to by blinding him#Also there's no good way to mention this but the Odyssey starts#by Zeus lamenting how mortals blame all their troubles and miseries on the gods when that's just not fair#because the gods go out of their way to warn the mortals that will be saddled with the most wretched fates#and they ignore the gods and do whatever they want anyway LMFAO#It's a really smart way to tie in the whole Orestes plot that would have wrapped up in between Odysseus getting stranded on Ogygia#and Odysseus getting off of Ogygia#epic the musical#epic the wisdom saga#zeus#athena#odysseus#poseidon#the odyssey
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Wow crazy how it’s been two months since mha ended. what the hell was that btw
#BNHA#MHA#Shigaraki Tomura#Himiko Toga#Dabi#Touya Todoroki#Shuichi Iguchi#Atsuhiro Sako#Mr Compress#Spinner#Actually so ass I still can't believe it really ended that way. like how was that written by the same guy who made MVA wtf happened#genuinely what was it all for Horikoshi don't piss me off#sorry this is so messy I saw what day it was and had to draw something. remember when the manga was good. I do#ANYWAYS I want to start posting art again but it probably wont be MHA unless its old stuff that never left drafts or if someone asks for it#i'll probably be drawing a lot of epics related stuff (iliad odyssey gilgamesh etc.) and also d. 🤢dc sorry in advance#also trigun <3 <- shoutout to good media thanks Nightow#Anyways how have y'all been#Art by me
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tbh I think Calypso views herself as Odysseus's rest and reward. like, she's the comfort in a hurt/comfort fic. she's the therapy saga. and honestly, a lot of her actions make sense when you look at it like that.
Odysseus is traumatised and scared and hurting. and she understands that. she's so understanding that she doesn't take it personally when he yells or screams or begs -- trauma makes it hard to regulate emotions, after all. he'll calm down in a little bit.
she's so understanding that she's not even hurt when he rejects her advances. he's been alone for so long that he's scared of intimacy now. but she doesn't let that discourage her. he'll get used to the idea eventually.
she's so understanding that she doesn't give up on him, even when he talks and talks and talks about his wife and son. obviously he wants to go back to them, but what he wants isn't what's good for him. that's fine, he doesn't need to know what's good for him yet. that's what she's for.
she's so understanding that she doesn't even let it upset her too much when Ody stands too close to the edge and stares out at sea below like its calling to him. it's okay. she can catch him if he falls.
sure, they're relationship isn't what she's dreamed about for centuries -- real relationships never are that perfect. her Ody has a lot of healing to do. and she'll make sure she's with him through it all.
#I just think they're dynamic makes more sense if Calypso genuinely thinks she's being helpful#and understands that Odysseus is the most traumatised man to ever breathe#like. yeah of course he's rejecting my affections and gestures of love. he doesnt think he deserves nice things 😔 so sad#I'll just have to shower him with presents and love until he understands that he's more than earned it :)#of course he keeps trying to leave. the only hope he's had for over a decade now (a long time for mortals!) is getting back home#he doesn't understand that he's somewhere even better now 🏝️. with someone even better now 💃💃#anyway. she's not a good person but I think she'd disagree#epic the musical#epic calypso#epic odysseus#love in paradise#not sorry for loving you#<- oh yeah I had this thought partially because of 'that you're not mine to save' line#and partially the cliff scene#nuclear war speaks#also none of this applies to Homer's Calypso. she was just a really bad person
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If you were to like redesign Magneto's classic outfit in a way that both suits the character and your own tastes, how would you redesign it?
uhhhh errrmmmmm i dont know i really couldnt improve upon perfection but i have still tried for you my friend !!!
#xmen#xmen comics#magneto#erik lehnsherr#max eisenhardt#erik magnus lensherr#like ig fc erik there too but only if you squint Generally Speaking this aint about him#snap sketches#i thought this was gonna be a quick thing but then As I Do i sat and thought about it for too long#and for what. my end result isn't that different from the beginning !! tragic .#out of these i think. it MAY be obvious i like the far right one#once i remembered I Do In Fact love megaman i locked in cause everytime i draw Classic Magneto all i think of is megaman#cant even make a magnetman joke that mfer already exists and he from my FAVORITE classic megaman title tyvm#anyway. should i explain my reasoning now. man i guess i can try#i couldnt tho is the thing- at least for the first set i really was just ickin around and seeing what i Might like#evidently it was nothing LMAO i told yall i cant improve perfection ... so i just. Smash Bros'd his classic look#With some tearing on the cape cause i said so ............#at most- with the furthermost right bit- i just wanted to emphasize a feeling of 'power' hence the chunkier boots + gloves#with the first look i tried that angle with showing some arm skin buuuuttt i dont like it ...#i think the sleeveless look really only works if the outfit's black idk i cant explain it#overall the first design i tried just feels too sleek for my liking if i wanted to go for a 'power' approach#i like the 'M' i did with the legs at least. i really wanted to incorporate an M in case it wasnt clear but alas ...#tbh i might steal the boots/gloves/underwear design from myself when i draw classic magneto regularly. SHRUG we'll see#as for now i am very sleepy and i have class in the morning and i want to do some work Before Class#very cool but very sad i dont have my third class today :( its my fave class :( at least i get more time to work#and the more work i get done the more time i get to draw the sillies !!! epic ...#anyways. good night everyone !!!!!!! talk to yall tomorrow ..... probably ... or later ig technically... i should sleep earlier <- wont
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something that kind of bothers me about modern feelings toward the epic of gilgamesh is how it's been COMPLETELY watered down to being "gay". Bear with me as I explain.
this is more of an extreme example, but I see this take all the time (not the yaoi part. the gay lover part). it's boiled down to the fact that it's gay over literally anything else in the epic. Gilgamesh's lament to Urshanabi about Enkidu's loss is overshadowed by the fact that Gilgamesh is mourning his gay lover. Gilgamesh is on a journey because he lost his gay lover. Gilgamesh and Enkidu were gay.
Now I understand that with a modern lens, people tend to lock on to how unabashedly Gilgamesh mourns Enkidu, because it's gay and because it's the oldest written epic in human history. People feel deeply connected to the idea that people like them have been around since the dawn of literature. But placing exclusive focus on the nature of the relationship as gay, rather than why the relationship or its loss was important, erases the story the epic is trying to tell.
The Epic of Gilgamesh is a story about love, yes, but it is not a love story. It's about the fear of death, coping with loss, and desperation to stave off the inevitable. It's about the bonds of friendship, about hardship, coming to terms personal change and losing pieces of yourself as you learn and grow. It is about consequences, arrogance, death, second chances, mourning, yearning, loving and LIVING. The Epic of Gilgamesh is about the entire human experience and one man's struggle to accept it. What does it mean to have lived? What does it mean to have loved, and lost? What does it mean to die, and to be remembered? What does it mean to be human?
It is perfectly okay to find appreciation for the Epic because of Gilgamesh and Enkidu's relationship. But also understand that the world's oldest story is not about two gay men who loved each other. It is a story about being alive.
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#the epic of gilgamesh#mesopotamia#sumerian#once again recommending that everyone read the epic of gilgamesh at least once because it really is a great story#gilgamesh and enkidu's relationship is first of all--a minor detail at best. homosexuality was normal in sumerian society#so it wouldn't have been unusual. in fact placing such intense focus on it is what's unusual#also they weren't even homosexual. they both also sleep with women. but the erasure of bisexuality is a completely different hornet's nest#i could also probably write a post about how watered down the whole ea-nasir thing is too#but hes so much of a meme i might as well try to convince a brick wall to get up and walk for all the good it'd do#anyway. im pretentious about this topic because i love it so fucking dearly. please recognize what it is youre appreciating
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Honestly, thank god for the tumblr version of humans are weird/space orcs/whatever. I love the stories I read on here about discovery and interaction between different species and how cool space is. Every time I try to go to reddit (into the r/HFY one, which is supposed to be the same thing), all I get usually is stories of human's deadly military in space.
#humans are space orcs#humans are weird#like theres a few good stories of course#i dont deny that#but you really have to sift through all the military propaganda shit for it#its so annoying#i dont wanna read a story about how humans are oh so cool and epic and murderous and can take over your planet you puny alien#i wanna read something actually interesting#anyways#thank you tumblr
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my ody ref for the ichbw animatic was both bad and did not have enough notes so i made several more notes. here if you guys wanna see my notessss on ithaca saga odysseus this is how i draw him. for now. it will change again
#he would have a beard i just really hate drawing facial hair#his ass is fucking TIRED#some of my notes are silly and some of them are actually good notes for me#some are both !!#(doesnt know what to do with his hands) is the both. for the record#<- bc it informs how he moves AND is silly. anyways telemachus in my sketches does a lot of big gestures#he talks with his hands! but odysseus is. not that.#fgvfredrfg#hope you guys like my silly ody notes#doodles#epic the musical#odysseus
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YOU LIKE EPIC THE MUSICAL?!
Bro lemme tell ya this damn musical isn't even FINISHED yet and it's one of my favorite musicals of all time. It might actually BE my absolute favorite, it's so damn good.
Fun fact, I mostly got into Epic in the first place because of the rottmnt fandom, on Tik Tok there's like a million rottmnt edits with the song Just A Man which I kept seeing and I was like "damn this is pretty good". I heard parts of a bunch of other songs too, but I never actually went and really listened to it until The Ocean Saga came out, I heard Ruthlessness and I immidietly went "okay I gotta listen to this already holy shit" and uh. Well I've been a bit obsessed with the musical ever since, let's just say that.
#ruthlessness is still probably my favorite song#but i might change my mind on that later a lot of these songs are really fricking good istg#anyway the thunder saga destroyed me i am in shambles#tizel talk#epic the musical
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just finished the Ithaca saga and .... wow
i am not the same person after that
#holy shit holy shit dude#i was sobbing so much man#SO GOOOOOOD WHAT THE FUCK#god damn#he really just said that too eh#good for him#anyways damn#SHITTTTTTT#fuck dude#god damn it#fuckkkkkkkkkkkk#yeah#me#rant#epic the musical#epic the ithaca saga
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JUST FOUND OUT ALAN CUMMING IS NIGHTCRAWLER IN AN XMEN MOVIE AND NOW I HAVE TO WATCH IT NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I've seen the nightcrawler character and love the design BUT ALAN CUMMING AS THAT CHARACTER?!?!?!?
Oh fuck ya, I have to watch it now FUCK ME I don't care for the X-Men but I might have to because I love that man.
#alan cumming#xmen#x men#nightcrawler#Cabaret love of my life#i love that musical so much#alan cumming as emcee has permanently made me love him#his peeformace is so good and the musical itself is so good#so relevant to today too!#so fun and actually very serious#but also musical!!!#i love musicals so damn much#and cabaret has my whole heart this year#well actually half of my heart the other half belongs to epic the musical#OH EPIC THE MUSICAL HOW I LOVE YOU#the brain rot is so serious about these two#ok maybe mostly epic rn BUT CABARET TOO its just on the out a little bit in my brain#and the final saga of epic is coming out soooo the hype is really there rn#anyway who wants to watch xmen with me and explain everything about it bcs ill be lost without context and knowing everything about it#jk my pookie got me#he knows very much about comic lore#probably
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Sly Spectre - Shadow Shadow (Will Stetson cover)
{x} All images from @slay-the-heroine by @tai-janai {x}
#Anyways i really like the full song#i hope this still looks good#this was really fun to do#sly spectre#slay the heroine#slay the princess#was going to be longer but couldn't do it haha#sly is very epic#3rd talks
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winston my quant of billions
#''😒''#corned beef#winston billions#& green of all things; drew it in purpley pink & being like whoa hey is this too much deliberately breaking out this Rare Coloring#minty fresh....been funny to be rotating the villainy of; let's say; bsol & xmas & then thinking about billions' whole other world there#& its completely different take where of all things winston is like. treated as a villain in a way its sicko My God central men aren't#(who are also quite different from iconis villains but yknow with the very fundamental differences in general what else is a surprise)#axe? prince? alive & well & billions does mean to be commenting on that like yeah sure#but winston? gotta be humiliated & violated & attacked / killed (if figuratively + just by assumption Oh He's Fiiine)#as well as basically truly dead to everyone but in a Never Existed / Spontaneously Shunned way. nobody thinks about him ever again#including when non wretched central men characters are getting these silver linings Benefits from their sabotaging a central man#not winston though maybe; the writing has forgotten him / sees no worth in bringing him up unless At His Expense; not gain#didn't get background randos telling prince or the like to go fuck himself at any point. open contempt reserved for winston there#better to have Objective Entitlement to power over / access to people & then; hey what the; be an asshole about it???#than to not just Have that entitlement & not expect it & not try to use it & be friendly & minding your own business as much or more than#any other characters like good lord what a Loser. the queerness & disability of this inferiority? just some jokes (at winston's expense)#& we will be killing him like nobody even considers for central men takedowns. those are polite & we all have Some regret it came to this#better to abuse people than. be so unepic (different from Normal white cishet 50some men who love certain media)#& on that note you're never gonna guess what's Good to do to the unepic people who bring it upon themselves....yeah haha. abuse#you're never gonna guess but power difference is a given & also good if an epic person has that power. & on that note#what can they do with it but keep unepic people in their place? what other hope do we have? winston may try to say a pun. or speak at all :#anyway while there's the absolute joys of Any Good Bastard over in a wildly different oeuvre it's like well yknow#while winston is already Ruining Things as more a Wretched Sicko Evil Asshole for seeing himself as a person & others as people#instead of himself as an inferior who has to apologize for existing & initiating any interaction vs only ever doing as he's told#unlike the best heroes who know they're superior & will use others & mess with their lives however they feel is justified; you're welcome#like well if winston's such an exceptional dick(tm) around here that he has to be introduced w/discussion / explanation around this#great let him be even bitchier & more ''difficult''....& billions would never & that's why [sorry to all the characters trapped in there]#the slightest glimpses of like & The Quasirival Weirdo Duos Are Kinda Being Cunts b/w usual parallels riawin & taylip#what comes of that? oh nothing. but as ever these are at least glimpses of a little more liveliness & range for making room for this a sec#anyway imagine getting so niche that your other kinda just as niche thing is like. less niche. but not really. wheee yayyy fr lol My Whimsy
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#mlp#spacie spoinks#bruisecrew parent is me btw skjfskjdfsdf#the mwahster is dool my good friend dool#anyways this was really funny 2 me okay bye school and this epic fucking bunger awaitss#im so hunfry#I LUAGHED OUT LOUD#AJKFSHJFHKSJDF
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I am chronically afraid of tagging people lmao, but if you've posted anything on ao3 this year you're welcome to share your stats :))
#twas a pretty good year#to me its really not about the quantities of kudos or comments i get#but about the interaction i have with the fandom#when people engage with my writing or ask questions or get inspired#and i feel like ive really found that within the epics/classics fandom#i tend to get very burnt out in larger fandoms#because people take fanfic for granted#id get thousands of hits but only a few kudos and even less comments#but in smaller fandoms like this#theres so much more interaction#people leave longer comments and chat about their ideas and really form a collaborative community#and thats what keeps me writing#anyways mushy thoughts over#gonna keep writing next year#and if the writers block doesnt take me out i might even tackle a longer project#my writing#thank you everyone for the support#expect much more rambling from me in the future#and a happy 2025 to everyone
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I'm actually... enjoying Wuthering Waves this time...
#abbey plays wuwa#maybe it's the Genshin burnout#or maybe it's because it's actually better than I expected#it may also have something to do with getting Camellya#she's so fun to play as and so gorgeous#but anyway I'm appreciating it more this time around#Jinhsi's arc was really good and very epic#I loved the puzzles that had to do with reversing time and such#and the animations were incredible#voice acting seems to sound better too#I'm also finishing Yinlin's companion quest and I've been enjoying it a lot#and I'm very curious about Phrolova#as well as where the game's direction is heading#'cause I saw the new drip marketings and wow the new characters look so very different#anyways so far so good#I guess I'll keep playing#I need to build my characters properly though#Echoes are so weird I still don't know how to actually farm them??#but I'm on it
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