#anti-lauren zuke

[criticalalexandrite]

On Zuke leaving tumblr

The only good thing that comes out of Zuke stans using Zuke’s internet tantrums as ammo to demonize anyone who dislikes them is it tells me who else to block lmao. I don’t have time for your BS. Let people dislike others, even popular celebrities for goodness’ sake. The lack of self awareness in Zuke’s stans to preach to us about accepting everyone is amazingly hilarious in its own way. Really shows that if you don’t like Zuke for any particular behavior of theirs, that you DEFINITELY shouldn’t listen to a Zuke stan’s opinion on that.

[prouddiamondapologist]

SU criticals, probably: and now, to further shit on the crewniverse...got it! WE HEADCANON LION AS CODED TRANS AND THEREFORE THE CREWNIVERSE ARE TRANSPHOBES FOR DEPICTING TRANS PEOPLE AS THE PETS OF A WHITE OPPRESSOR!! WE MUST CHASE BECKY THE WHITE DEVIL OFF THE INTERNET!!!

[chillipeeps]

SU CRITICAL: Who tf keeps baking soda in their fridge?! This is gross misrepresentation of fridge culture! We’re raising a generation of children who think it’s perfectly okay to but baking soda in the fridge! STOP NORMALIZING BAKING SODA MISCONDUCT! 

And somehow, this is Lauren Zuke’s fault.

[ankle-beez]

Lauren zuke: I took a bath

Assholes in the SU fandom: why didn't you drown you stupid bitch

[unclep0ps]

Anti lapidots: Lapidot wouldn’t exist if it weren’t for Lauren Zuke.

Rebecca Sugar: “LApiDoT wOuLDn’T eXiST iF It WeREn’T fOR lauREn zUKE!!1!1”

[true-king-of-monsters]

The Star Wars Sequel Trilogy did plenty wrong, but what it really ruined for the internet was how shipping wars were handled and that’s why Twitter and Tumblr are fucking ugly cesspits of terminal brain-rot.

Now anyone who was around on the hellsites circa 2013-2014 might have known that shipping wars kinda got uglier. The best examples I can remember are Attack on Titan and Korra regarding certain characters (Historia Reiss and Korra). In the former, Yumikuri got btfo and for the latter, Korrasami was made canon.

“Debates” or rather outcry came about regarding carpet chomping privileges for both as Historia got some chemistry w/ Eren (A man, how HORRID /s) after Ymir left her to save her and Korra’s bisexuality was seen as icky and she shoulda been full lesbian (remember when they called her gay when bisexual was the more accurate term?) cause she dated Mako in Season 1, cause you know....Mako’s a guy. So Bisexuality is still taboo in media? Nice to see the Biphobia in fandom is treated with more courtesy than what’s normally tolerated. /s

But while both fandoms got their share of fanwank, it would at least be more or less self contained. That is until another franchise got a third go-around and got back into the public's eye..

After the mostly-positive reception of TFA playing it safe, ship wars got really nasty with arguments about Finnrey, Finnpoe, and Reylo in the following years as Finnpoe got sunk in TLJ and Reylo got canonized in TROS...before getting sunk as well cause the fandom couldn’t have nice things or learn to share their toys.

But with how the Sequel Trilogy was causing the change in behavior, like a toddler emulating its abhorrent older siblings, smaller fandoms started mimicking this kind of behavior with Antis coming outta the woodwork to “protect” the fandom from such icky nasty bad ships that had conflict and only “enlightening woke” pairings were allowed where everyone was happy and no stakes were higher than “What are we baking in the kitchen today?”

Perhaps the most infamous cases of fandoms being symptomatic of this are BNHA, Steven Universe, and Voltron.

Debates over Bakugou’s character development, Endeavor not having the right to redeem himself, Kacchako vs Izuocha shipping wars for BNHA, The Zamii Fiasco and Lauren Zuke for SU, and VLD...well let’s just say Shieth shippers really got the short end of the stick with Antis trying to doxx them, getting called pedophiles, and a whole myriad of a clusterfuck that warranted a special section on the Wikipedia as well as how it spawned the infamous “Fiction is Reality” fallacy Antis love to wave around like a dildo in public on a Bachelorette Night gone wrong.

TL;DR - The Star Wars Sequel Trilogy set the standard for fandom etiquette and shat the bed like Tarrare The Human Stomach after a dairy binge in Wisconsin.

[kuromichad]

ur recent posts remind me of how in like 2015 or whenever, steven universe twitblr warriors were convinced that lauren zuke, a trans woman working on the show, was a pedophile because she... might have shipped two characters. the idea that adults who have any kind of sexual life are unsafe to even tangentially intereact with children is INTERESTING when you consider who exactly gets hypersexualized and stigmatized by society. accusing transfems of pedophilia is like a sport on here

EXACTLY lmao. it’s like-- definitely it’s cringe when anti-antis are like ‘its MISOGYNY AND AGEISM that people dare get upset about my fanfics instead of attacking BIG HOLLYWOOD MEDIA that REALLY matters’ because it’s overreaching and like, people DO critique and ‘cancel’ mainstream media anyway, and also it’s just literally easier to try to enact change among your peers than among people with exponentially more power than you. but it definitely is carried out so much more viciously against the peers who do have less power than you. it’s more effective against marginalized people because people are like oh, this accusation just seems believable and credible because it somehow just like, makes sense that this Type Of Person would be Like That. 

it genuinely stresses me out so much that there’s this insistence that compartmentalization is impossible therefore anyone who is found out to just like, have sex, let alone PROBLEMATIC sex (whatever that may mean), is inherently crossing boundaries by... people having found out about it? no matter what the methods were? lmfao like “this person i purposely befriended, as someone the same age with the same interests, trusted me with this account i expressed interest in. CLEARLY that means they would LOVE to shove this content in minors’ faces unprompted” and somehow people just like... believe that. i feel like that’s just going to blur lines and undermine like, when someone actually IS crossing lines. how do you accurately take notice of someone intentionally fetish mining if your personal standard of what fetish mining is means ‘existing while i personally am aware that you have a fetish’. it’s just making everything more difficult

[anti-anti-stevinel]

wait wait wait wait, why don't you like Lapidot?

1. I hate Lapis as a character.

2. Toxic AF relationship.

3. I don’t think they are cute together whatsoever.

4. The shippers of it during the Lapidot/Stevidot/Amedot war were awful scumbag antis who went out of their way to torment and attack others who didn’t ship it. (Sounds familiar, huh?)

5. They attacked Lauren Zuke on Twitter.

6. Being in a relationship is the last thing she needs after what she has done to both Jasper and Peridot, plus I don’t think she’s even interested in it.

[flightofthebmblb]

Is it bad that like... one of the reasons I want bumbleby to be canon is so that a lot of annoying people stop watching the show?

I’m just really tired of seeing people harassing each other over a ship, and I know I sound biased when I say this, but it seems to mostly be from the anti-bees side, not the bees side.

It’s ironic, because the bumbleby shippers are the ones portrayed as toxic “wasps”, but the past few weeks I’ve spent on tumblr in the bumbleby community have been some of the most positive online experiences of my life.

I always see people say that rwby has one of the worst fandoms, and as someone who was been in the Steven Universe fandom during the whole Lauren Zuke incident, and who more recently was in the VLD fandom, I can honestly say that this is one of the least toxic fandoms I’ve been in.

Where can I find the toxicity, though?

The anti-shippers. The people like... a certain rwby-tuber who sit and complain about things. I’m not trying to say that antis can’t have opinions. I’ve met a lot of people who don’t ship what I ship who are great! But I’ve found more toxic antis than toxic shippers, and I’m tired of it.

I keep seeing people say they’ll drop the show if Blake and yang get together, and honestly? I hope they drop it. I don’t want to see this fandom turn into Vo/tron 2.0. I love this community way too much.

Thanks for listening to my rant.

[opalsiren]

man i love lapidot as much as the next gal but like. lz stating that they essentially used a woc-coded character in order to further the development of our white coded faves??? god fucking forbid any woc-coded characters on su acc get decent treatment and characterisation. also since when do writers get to deviate from what the other writers are doing shffjejcnsjd this is A Mess. next

[criticalalexandrite]

Anti-Zuke Lapis

For those who might ask me for a source on Zuke saying that they think PTSD victims having their trauma fixed is basically oppressive. This was the post: “i like the idea of someone with depression/ptsd not having to get "better" to make people comfortable rather they have friends to rely on in the good and the bad. its okay to be happy and its okay to be sad too“ This is bad because as a PTSD victim I don’t need some ignorant person saying that PTSD victims don’t need to get better. All that will do is encourage people to neglect us and not give us treatment. Yes, PTSD is something that needs to be fixed. It’s not like autism WHICH PEOPLE ARE BORN WITH and thus doesn’t need fixing. Zuke is literally comparing trauma to a disorder that is genetically inherited. That right there is all the proof that a non-SU stan needs to realize that Zuke is not fit for writing for a trauma victim character’s story arc. What they’re saying is dangerous to say to trauma victims. In fact they’re pretty much encouraging trauma victims to go down the self harm route. Because having trauma (when it’s readily available) and refusing to get help can fall under self harm. People with Zuke’s mindsets along with the influence they have are scary. It’s akin to telling someone with a bullet in their head to not get surgery. All you need is your family and friends to survive it uwu! And because the person who said it happened to get fame people are treating this as perfect advice. From my own PTSD experience? YES, I want to get better. I hate having PTSD and I hate the symptoms that I have to suffer through that no one else can understand. I hate having to deal with people who refuse to understand the source of it. I hate when people say I can’t possibly have it because I was never in a war zone or because I’m happy go lucky. (Which made Room For Ruby extra insulting since it basically said seemingly happy people can’t possibly be traumatized.) And I ESPECIALLY hate stories further stigmatizing PTSD like Zuke’s. It’s just validating these neurotypical views of PTSD that makes living more difficult for PTSD victims like me. Zuke may have PTSD or depression themselves or whatever. But that still does not excusde encouraging people with PTSD who relate to Lapis on some level to not get better. That[’s dangerous. Scoeity is hardly built for people born with disorders as it is. Society basically throws PTSD and trauma survivors under the bus. Every day we live with PTSD is like a non-stop nightmare. Do not tell us that we don’t need to get better and that all we need is the support of our family and friends. That’s not enough. If you tell us that you are helping ableism. So fuck off with that remark about Lapis, Zuke. Also I didn’t just make up that pos that provided the sourcet. It was saved by someone who praises Zuke’s writing so you know it’s not like it was saved to smear their rep. This is said site link that saved the post: http://rebrn.com/re/lauren-zuke-confirms-lapis-having-depressionptsd-and-is-happy-au-2875935/

[jenhedgehog]

Crewniverse: *lets Zuke write a lot of Lpais/Peridot episodes because they like their writing for them, approves said episodes, teases Lapidot at panels, draws them together, makes it obvious that they are at least a duo*. Antis: "The Crewniverse hates Lapidot!!1!!" Yes, Lauren likes Lapidot and put it in the show. But the crew obviously had agreed with her ideas because they let her take part in so many Lapis/Peridot episodes. Why would they do that if they hated her writing? Loool

Precisely!

[cominatchacleopatra]

Which is worse?

Voltron fandom or the Steven Universe fandom? Cause I see people from the vld side saying don’t let it become like steven universe when I know it’s way beyond that already. I mean the worst thing that SU has now in my opinion are the so called “critic blogs” which are nit-picky children that think they can write better than the actual show runners. And most of them are harmless. Sure there is some anti shipping in there but when compared to voltron antis, SU antis look like hapless kittens. But then again the SU fandom does have this weird obsession with picking on Lauren Zuke... hmm... I should make some charts.

[ankle-beez]

Since some people still didn't get the point of Zuke's final comic, here's a summary: Zuke had long standing mental issues. They got worse over time because they were not addressing them properly. They let work consume them so that they didn't have to face reality. When they realized they were doing this, they changed their focus to getting themselves better. SU is made by a large team of people, Zuke's additions were not "forced" in. The comic was not about SU or ships. People need to STFU.

And yet people in this fandom still don’t get it.

Those people should fuck off right into the stratosphere.

[hammyterasu]

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[klaviergavinwiki]

Anyway here’s a fun quiz: Who would you rather fight? A nitpicky 20 something who amplifies the flaws in Steven Universe to an unreasonable degree, or a self righteous anti-sjw who stopped watching because of the “toxic fandom.”

Things to note:

The nitpicking 20 something immediately identifies all of your weak points and uses them to their advantage. They also might pretend you’re Lauren Zuke and start beating the shit out of you.

The anti-sjw’s self righteousness boosts their attack. They really believe that you’re a bully and that wasting you will be a favor to the world. If they find out you’re openly against white washing and fat shaming they might try to have you arrested for cyberbullying on sight.