#anti stepford wife Emma

[lonelyneuronaboard]

Everytime I see something OUAT related I cannot help but think that the last seasons have shown us the long death of Emma Swan. It started in the 5th season, and in the 6th there was no more Emma Swan. That's why I think 'was that really her happy ending?'. You can ship whatever you like, but you can't tell me that in the last season Emma was happy. That wasn't the face, or the behavior, of a truly happy person. So what did I see? The actress JMo being done with OUAT, or the character Emma Swan being done with everything and ignoring her happiness for that of everyone else? Shouldn't love make you happy? Shouldn't people who claim to love you accept you for what you are without wanting to change you? Last season Emma Swan wasn't the badass Emma anymore. And she wasn't even a 'woman that put down her walls for the man/people she loved'. Bullshit. She was a shadow of herself. A fake. The real Emma Swan died in favor of Stepford Wife!Emma for her precious pirate, and Princess!Emma for Snow. My Emma Swan died the moment she started changing herself to please the people who claimed to love her.

[ouatsnark]

What happened to Emma Swan? DEBUNKED

Ever so often the Swan Queen fandom gets it in their heads to try & tear down Emma Swan's look and character development simply because she married a man… a man who treated Emma far better than their Queen. Their arguments prove that they lack the will to understand the writing as they blatantly twist canon to fit their narrative.

"What happened to season one Emma Swan? She went from happy to miserable because of Killian Jones" - Regina Apologists

This is a prime example of how Regina Apologists are so dishonest. The two pictures on the left are promotional shots from the show. The two pictures on the right are moments from Season 6 when Emma is in distress. The first image she is watching her parents sacrifice themselves for the good of Storybrooke (while Regina, who is at fault, does nothing). The second one is when Emma was having visions of her own death. These instances have NOTHING to do with Killian Jones! However, I can find plenty of times when Emma was in distress due to Regina Mills!

I have found so many examples of them pulling this crap. I would be here all day screen capping their dishonesty.

The truth: Emma Swan wasn't happy in Season 1 & that Emma wasn't the real Emma

Yes, you heard me. Season 1 Emma wasn’t the real Emma. The real Emma was hiding behind an armor of red leather jackets, fake eye-lashes and a chip on her shoulder to keep everyone at arms length. She put on a tough bravado as an armor to protect herself from the world because she'd been hurt too many times.

But as a time passed, Emma needed less and less armor. She became more trusting and more open to love, family and happiness. When she shed that armor she let herself be more vulnerable. She became more caring toward others. Which is about the bravest thing you can do.

The more and more we saw Emma opening up to love the less armor she used. And the less armor she used, the more we hear from the Anti-CaptainSwan crowd that...

How do you go from THIS to this??? - Regina Apologist

GASP! A woman didn’t put on a bunch of make up & doll herself up for you SO SHE MUST BE MISERABLE & has no agency because she’s at the mercy of everyone!!!

Imagine degrading a woman for not wearing make up or curling their hair? You have got to be kidding me.

Also, if you really believe this, then you should be looking more favorably on Killian Jones. He obviously loved Emma for who she was and not how much make up she is wearing unlike like you fools.

Never mind that once again they grab a screen cap of when Emma is going through a tough time...and why is she going through a tough time? BECAUSE OF REGINA MILLS! Yeah, Regina's other half is trying to hurt her parents and possibly kill everyone all because Regina can't stop wanting to be evil!

The Truth: Killian Jones made Emma Swan happy

It's literally in her wedding vows. And you can see it on her face whenever she looks at him. Killian Jones helped her trust in love and not be afraid of the future.

The truth: Regina is the cause of 99% of Emma's problems

I've seen Regina stans try to say that Emma looked miserable during her vows but they fail to actually listen to what she is saying. She is not only fighting tears but when she looks away, apparently sad, she is remembering her life before Henry. She is thinking about when Henry came to get her which wasn't a happy time at all really. She was thinking about what Regina did to her and her family.

But she looks at Killian with all the happiness in her heart.

"Emma went from a badass in Season 1 to a Stepford Wife" - Regina Apologist

I love how they continue to use promo shots and bts pictures.

It’s like the Anti-CaptainSwan crowd believes that there is only one way to be a strong woman: having a chip on your shoulder, being sarcastic to everyone, never needing anyone (especially a male) and being single (unless its w|w). They just don’t like the fact that Emma not only chose her own path but fights for everyone and not just their precious queen.

I have actually heard Rumple stans call Emma a Stepford wife as well because she chose Hook over Rumple's cowardly son Neal. Which is just hysterical since Belle is literally a Stepford wife. She ignores all of his abuse, his bad deeds and his manipulation and stays with him.

The Truth: Emma Swan was still a badass after getting together with Killian Jones:

S4 taking down dragon Lily

S4 telling grumpy to back off before she turns him into stumpy (hey you thought sarcasm was badass? there you go!)

S4 taking on the darkness to save the town

S4 defeating Cruella to save Henry

S5 going up against Nimue

S5 confronting Rumple about him being the Dark One again

S5 doing what she had to do and knowing she had to destroy Dark Hook

S5 telling Regina to fix her own damn problems for once cause Emma was done doing it for her

S6 going up against Wish Hook.

S6 going up against the Serum Queen

S6 sacrificing herself for Gideon and destroying the dark fairy

Furthermore, if Emma was that dependent on Killian Jones then she would not have left the Underworld without him. But she did leave him for the sake of Henry and others who needed her.

DEBUNKING MYTHS

Emma is complex but SQers fail to accept Emma’s evolution because it didn’t involve her becoming Regina’s doormat in every aspect of her life.

I know it's hard for Regina Mills stans to spot character growth, since their queen didn't have one, but Emma Swan and Killian Jones are where the most character growth happened. They evolved into much better people as the series came to a close.

Here are some things I've seen when talking about Emma's evolution or about her being worse off with Killian Jones than she would have been with Regina or Neal. And lets be real here, Emma was worse off with Regina as a friend. That is just a fact.

THEY NEVER ACKNOWLEDGE REGINA'S TRUE ROLE

I will see them talk circles around Regina's role in Emma's life to avoid putting blame where it should be and that is directly on Regina Mills. They will say things like "The Charmings abandoned Emma" but The Charmings didn’t just abandon Emma. THEY SAVED HER LIFE with the hope that Emma would return to save the entire kingdom FROM REGINA. Regina was going to murder infant Emma.

They will also go on about how Killian and Emma were enemies at first. Killian Jones was never as much of an enemy to Emma like Regina Mills was. Regina emotionally and physically hurt Emma and destroyed her life.

MYTH: EMMA WAS ONLY AT HER BEST IN SEASON ONE OR WITH REGINA

As mentioned above, they prefer closed off and alone Emma. However, Emma was at her best when she let down her walls & allowed herself to love. A heart full of love is beautiful. But love to Regina apologists only looks like Emma bowing to Regina. Well. Emma was closed off, negative, sarcastic & willing to overlook all of Regina’s shit for the sake of Henry. Allowing someone to put you down the way Emma allows Regina is NOT someone at their best.

Emma at her best understands sacrifices for the greater good, forgiveness, mercy & the strength of love. That was Emma during all 7 seasons. Actually, Emma showed Regina way too much mercy (Rumple too, in fairness).

MYTH: EMMA WAS FORCED TO CHOOSE HOOK

Anyone who says that Emma was forced to be with Hook because Killian & her parents "pressured her" or "made her" is hating Emma Swan. This is a bunch of fanon nonsense & not canon. No one was forcing Emma. You can’t point to a single scene or dialog that suggests that. Quite the opposite in fact.

You don’t fight for something as hard as Emma fought for her happy ending if it’s not what you want. Remember that Snow & David were against saving Hook in Camelot. They were more concerned about Emma. Hell, Killian Jones was more concerned about Emma's future than living! He wanted her to choose her life over his! It was Emma’s idea to go get Hook in the Underworld & everyone was against it at first (cause who just walks into the Underworld??). If Emma's parents were pushing her towards anyone it was Neal. So, no, no one was forcing Emma to be with Hook. When Charming gives his blessing to Hook he says that the final decision is up to Emma.

If you truly believe that Emma was forced to be with Hook then you don't understand Emma Swan. Emma didn't do anything that Emma didn't want to do. Remember when Emma was dead set on running back to New York in season 3? No one was going to change her mind. She had to find out on her own that life with Henry and her parents in Storybook was indeed home. Emma was perfectly capable of making her own decisions.

MYTH: GETTING MARRIED AND HAVING CHILDREN WAS NOT SEASON ONE EMMA'S HAPPY ENDING

Says who!? When did Emma say this? Emma didn’t want a family? GTFOH with that BS. More fanon that isn’t backed up by canon. She THOUGHT she wanted that life with Neal (re-watch Tallahassee). But after his betrayal she packed that side of her away for fear of being hurt again. You’re mistaking her protective armor for who she really is.

And furthermore proving that you don't know what character growth looks like. People change so characters should as well. Well written characters evolve.

MYTH: EMMA DIDN'T PUT HERSELF FIRST ANYMORE BECAUSE OF HOOK & WAS A SHELL OF HER FORMER SELF

Putting those you love first is a sign of unconditional love. I know that’s hard to understand since your queen is a self-centered bitch who never put anyone first… but Emma is different. And just because she wanted to be with her family doesn’t mean she wasn’t putting what she wanted first.

Emma being a shell of herself is a personal opinion. Emma evolved. She had many more layers by the time S6 rolled around. As I said above, her personality in S1-2 was a part of her armor as much as that jacket was. And to say she still wasn’t kicking ass in S6 is a lie. She sacrificed her life so a child would get his life back. Being a hero & putting others first is a strength of character. It’s honorable. Again, I know that’s hard seeing that Regina was 100% focused on her own happy ending but Emma was different. She is a character worth emulating because of her goodness, love and willingness to fight for others.

MYTH: THE CHARMINGS' & HOOK'S LOVE WAS CONDITIONED ON HER BEING THE SAVIOR AND BEING WITH HOOK

You just don’t like that she wanted Hook & not Regina. It’s also complete fanon that Emma’s acceptance depended on her being the savior & loving a man. The Charmings were too cautious about her relationship with Hook to be forcing that on her. They wanted her to be happy & when they saw she was, they accepted him. Also Hook’s love wasn’t dependent on her being the savior. Remember the scissors? Hook kept those suckers because her life meant more to him than her title.

[silvers-and-reds]

(via https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mQYuBxwu1o)

This reminds me so much of Emma. It makes me sad. 

[angstbotfic]

@the-dust-storm-words​ @angstbotfic What “abusive” behavior am I “whitewashing”? All I did was point out Regina had an alliance with the character y’all seem to love to hate because he what? He blocks your ship?

i, and the other feminists in this fandom regardless of ship, hate Huk because he is a misogynistic piece of shit. he makes rape jokes. he refused to take Emma’s “no” for an answer. he said he was glad her heart was broken. he tore her down pretty much throughout their relationship until she was a Stepford wife. and, as @rowark mentioned, he helped torture Regina. 

and i’m sure there are more things but i haven’t thought much about him in years so i don’t really remember offhand. feel free to check out the anti-hook or anti-cs tags to educate yourself. your profile indicates that you’re quite young. really, for your own sake, learn how he should be seen as a cautionary tale, not in any way romantic.

also, it’s clear that you’re new here and don’t understand that we all learned to keep the peace in this fandom by not putting anti-things in pro tags, but that’s how things work in 0UAT. i had to learn this the hard way too, back in 2014. if you hate a thing, don’t put that post in the tag of that thing. easy peasy. 

[anticraptainswan]

Hey TROLL Queen the REAL reason you and all the other antis are salty and bitter that CS is having a baby and living their DESERVED happy ending is because all of you are upset that Emma didn't end up as a submissive "Stepford Wife" to Douchefire aka the ADULT man who took advantage of a minor, and let's be real the ONLY "The Omen"spawn on OUAT is Dungbelle's since you know he's the DARK ONE's spawn.

Awwwww, you came back..... Did you bring me my crown this time? Because I’ve been waiting for my damn crown for months now. I’m pretty disappointed you haven’t given it to me yet. It’s so rude to call me that and not give me a crown for it. 

I think you’re confused though.... Stepford Swan is what became of Emma when she started dating your abusive pirate. Did you hit your head? Is that why you’re so confused? You should really see a doctor about that.

Oh Gollum..... It’s like you’re not even trying with me. I really expected more from you. Your nicknames are unoriginal, uninspired and yawnworthy. 

But I guess that’s what you get for shipping CS.... Since they too are unoriginal, uninspired and yawnworthy.

Have a great night though. Enjoy your pathetic mastabatory fantasies of CS making and raising a million babies and other boring shit. Sounds boring but whatever floats your boat I guess. 

[hereisisa]

LMAO Lana compared OUAT to GOT. WHAT!!! I mean almost any show is better then OUAT. But that's just too funny. Lana dear Lana your show now sucks. There anti no way back from that shit pile.

She said:

“just want everyone to stay open-minded, and just have fun, and don’t expect things to be exactly like it was over the last six seasons. I mean, doesn’t that get boring anyway? You think of Game of Thrones, if they didn’t kill off all these favorite characters, what would Game of Thrones be? It’s shocking in those moments when you see some of your favorite characters like, “I can’t believe they killed so and so!” and you’re like, “Oh my God!” but then you stick with it. I just want our audience to be patient, and open-minded, and have fun, and remember it’s a TV show. It’s not like we’re making any big, giant, political decisions here that are going to impact your life in a real serious way, it’s a TV show, so go on this artistic journey with us.”

Source

I’m gonna ignore the no-politics line this time and focus on GOT.

I totally understand where she’s coming from, she wants us to give it a chance, even if it’s different. She’s right. I understand it.

And yet….yes GOT kills characters like flies, but the show is well written, it makes sense, there are not plot holes, ALL actors are amazing, they write in hints in S2 that will be revisited in S6 and totally make sense…Pretty much what The X-Files did back in the day.

But OUAT can’t do that. They change their backstory at every chance and it’s irritating (to me at least), there too many plot holes, but most importantly the writing is atrocious.

When I watch GoT I don’t think about ships cause all characters are fascinating, and I couldn’t care less about who gets who.On the contrary OUAT promoted and supported ships cause it’s the only way to have fans tweeting about the show. Hundreds of fake accounts were created by shippers to promote their couples, to tweet A&E requests, to be vocal about the favorite couples. It’s ALL about ships because they made it so.

Think about Roni.

The only thing they said about S7 at SDCC is that she’ll have a LI. AGAIN THEY ARE promoting ships.

A ship I don’t care about, of course, cause I’m not gonna watch Regina end up with a dude but you get my point.

I said before that the only thing that made OUAT bearable was Swan Queen, and it’s true for me cause why should I watch otherwise? For the plot holes? To see Emma become a Stepford wife? For Hook’s brother # 2?I would watch for Lana alone, but Regina’s stories after S3 revolved around an undeserving man.Even when she was supposed to have HER season, Regina and Evil Queen separated…how did it end? With half of her shipped to FTL to be with a dude. They managed to turn a story of acceptance into “it’s ok to cut parts of yourself you don’t like, cause the reward is a dude”.

They can’t write. The plot, the dialogues, everything sucks. (And they give their worst when they write “love stories”, cause that’s where the misogyny comes out.)

But when I saw Lana and JMO together in a scene, the chemistry, the acting (back when JMO gave a damn fuck and used to act), the possibilities….Yeah I watched for that.

I would have given a chance without Emma, because I would really watch Lana read the yellow pages, even if I loved the HBIC, uptight, hot Mayor Mills and I wasn’t into Roni at all.

But a new male LI for Regina, no Mayor Mills, no Swan Queen, horrible writing, the no-politics comment,……there are more cons than pro, you can see.

OUAT is not GoT. And killing characters has nothing to do with that.

[sarahdollrps]

PHOEBE STEPFORD/CUCKOO 3 . HELLFIRE CLUB: BLACK BISHOP . 22 . TELEPATH, HIVE MIND WITH SISTERS, DIAMOND FORM . PB: SKYLER SAMUELS . SITE: XMTS

cw: emotional abuse, child abandonment, misuse of telepathic powers, attempted murder

...

all her life phoebe was considered one of three - she and her sisters were born together and spent their formative years together, all but joined at the hip and to this day phoebe still sees herself as merely being part of a greater whole. being identical triplets so alike that telling them apart was impossible was all that phoebe aspired to be, even though as time went on, she became known as the forceful and assertive one; voicing the needs and wants of the group. however when the triplets were teenagers their parents decided to get the family's genes tested (a way to help bolster their anti mutant father's career) which revealed that their so called triplet connection was actually telepathy with a special hive mind link between them. while their father bribed the tech to falsify and destroy the proof of their mutation, he had himself legally divested of the girls by granting them emancipation and setting them up - grudgingly and only at the behest of his wife - with a small trust fund to share. in the meantime the girls were packed off to xavier's school for gifted youngsters, leading to phoebe's impression that if their own parents would turn them away, then no one could be trusted and that the triplets should only have each other and that anyone not part of the trio wasn’t to be trusted.

at school the triplets became known as the "stepford cuckoos" for their talking at once, talking only in each others' minds and doing their best to look and sound like one brain in three bodies. however under the united front - and with a little teacher prodding - differences in opinions began to emerge, leaving phoebe baffled and even more hardened against her peers. during university her tendency to expose the embarrassing secrets of anti-mutant students or those she didn't like caught the attention of a hellfire club pawn named kevin mactaggart and he offered her a place among the hellions figuring that like himself, she could rise through the ranks quickly. phoebe was dismayed that her sisters didn't want to join the club with her, but arguments had to be shelved when their parents contacted them for the first time in ages, asking them to come to the family cottage. however instead of a plea for forgiveness and an offer to help them hide from the newly passed mutant registration act, their fathered offered the girls a joint settlement of $75K on the condition they didn't reveal their links to him. instead phoebe used and abused the power of the hive mind, amplifying her telepathic powers and turning the minds of her parents inside out, stealing their passwords and secrets and generally being ready to leave them to die. her sisters, horrified, cut her off from the hive mind and forced her to help them "call" over a "lost" jogger to get their parents medical help...after phoebe had basically stolen all but enough money to keep their parents in a long term care facility.

these days the three in one have been torn asunder; celeste is studying journalism and living with friends met at the mansion while mindee disappeared in mysterious circumstances two years ago. in between her mba studies, phoebe has risen to the rank of black bishop in the hellfire club, working on climbing the ranks so she can be a queen, while also working with emma frost on strengthening her powers. she also acts as emma’s spy to make sure no one at borgon-frost industries suspects emma of being a mutant or working against the company's interest - all in the guise of a harmless intern. while those occupy her day to day life, phoebe is also trying to wrest celeste away from the company of her factionless friends and to figure out the truth behind mindee's disappearance so that the three in one will be brought back toegther they way they belong...

WANTED CONNECTIONS

fellow borgon-frost interns for mind games and gossip . 20-24 . mix of human and mutant

emma frost as the emperor palpatine to phoebe’s darth vader . 45 . hellfire dame imperial

a spy in celeste’s circle of friends . 21-23 . unregistered neutral mutant

private detective hunting for clues as to mindee’s fate . 27+ . human or mutant

BIO . PLOT . SITE INFO . APPLICATION . CLAIMS

[sassmill]

How fucked Up is it that to avoid relentless trolling and bullying from CSers, swan queen shippers have to come up with tags and code names and abbreviations that don't show up in their tags? That instead of just leaving us alone and acknowledging that we want different things from the show, they have to attack us? And that half of them don't even have the fucking guts to come off of anon? I'm tired of trying to fucking hide from an entire sect of a fandom. If I come across and anti swan queen post, I just silently unfollow the person or keep scrolling through the tag. Never once have I EVER had the nerve to actually harass someone for it. Maybe because I know that it makes the person feel like shit, maybe because I'm a decent fucking person- who the hell knows! But GODS FORBID I make an anti captain swan post and don't tag it as "anti c$" or "anti h00k" to hide it! Then my inbox gets FLOODED with hate messages! Captain Swan shippers are fucking cowards, I'm saying it! It's ridiculous! Hook is a manipulative asshole and Emma has become a Stepford wife, congratu-fuckin-lations, you got your wedding! They still have not canonically had a "True Love's Kiss" like every other canonical true love couple, but congratulations you fucking win! Not that it was a competition in the first place, but that seems to be what you want to hear instead of acknowledging how flawed their whole relationship has been from start to finish! Go! Fuck! Yourselves! And while you're busy doing that, swan queen can breathe a sigh of goddamn relief because it will mean you're leaving us alone for a second!