#anti misha's minions

[eisforeidolon]

"Oh you guys just don't understand Misha's humor!" [X]

No, actually, we do very much understand Misha's "humor". We've heard him intermittently talking shit about Jared, about Jensen, about the writers, about SPN, about the CW, about magazines that don't feature him as equal to the leads, yadda yadda yadda. Where it has very often been framed as "a joke" to give what he's saying a thin veneer of deniability. If anybody that matters notices and calls him on it? Well, it's just so very easy to brush it off with, "Haha, can't you guys take a joke?!" or "Sorry you didn't get my humor :(" or "Oh no, who could have guessed the fans would take me seriously?!"

Except his "jokes" bleed the exact same jealous bitterness that whining about not getting a trailer the size of the ones J2 had (when he was working a fraction of the time they were) did. Along with the same entitlement as being astonished he'd still have to audition for roles after having one recurring support role as a non-human on SPN did. As well as the same ungratefulness shit-talking the show and the network when they kept him continuously employed for an unreal span of time considering his quote unquote talents did and does.

Which does not even get into how there is a very clear motive consistently behind said "jokes" of pandering to the various conspiracy narratives of the only people still credulously buying into his bullshit. Who share a belief he (and they) are victims for not actually being entitled to things just because they want them.

Which is an absolute joke, but not in the sense his stans mean.

[laf-outloud]

Good for JDM. Finally someone who doesn't let slander against Jared slide.

Don't get me wrong, I'm grateful JDM spoke up, it's about time. But also, it seems like it's a decade too late. it took someone being rude directly to Jared's face for JDM to speak up. I have yet to see anyone defend him from all the online bullies, many of which tag him specifically in their hate and death threats.

I'd also like someone to call out Misha (even in private) for baiting his fans to further their Jared hate. He's a major part of the problem as he just emboldens and encourages them (and he knows it).

Hopefully, JDM's support will show other actors that it's okay to speak up on someone else's behalf and will also send a clear message to certain people that encouraging Jared-hate is unacceptable.

I won't get my hopes up yet that the general tide of hate towards Jared is turning around, but this is definitely a start.

[kvitka97]

Jesus, I’ll never forgive Misha for riling his little lunatics up so that we have to wade through shit like this:

Jensen better buckle up, Purcon sounds like it will be fun /s.😒

[supernaturallywincest]

I am currently laughing my ass off now. Hellers on Twitter are losing their shit because Misha has a girlfriend. Apparently, they all thought that they had a chance with him.

EWWWWWWWW

[eisforeidolon]

Yeah, especially in conjunction with his even more pointedly insulting comment at AHBL about the bridge scene where he also debuted this new contradictory version of the story where it was Cas and not Jimmy at the bar [X]? He absolutely does come off like a bitter and entitled little troll, mad he couldn't turn the end of SPN into his own personal stepping stone over the actual narrative and actual leads.

Unfortunately for this fandom, it works for him with his audience because such a large proportion of them are also bitter and entitled little trolls.

Misha, you’re a bitter little man

(tweet)

Preach. \o/

[holding-out-for-hea]

Im so enraged…….

What the actual FUCK is WRONG with YOU!!!???

I barely come here anymore, but I just caught up on some stuff and went to twitter and this is the post I see….. just…. Unbelievable. How DARE you assign a sexuality to Jensen when he said NO SUCH THING and made no such announcement himself? And to put it out there as though it’s facts? To satisfy your fetishization of him? Ooooohhhhh hell is not hot enough for you

[jarpadswalker]

Recent con has made it clear as to why Jared would get depressed time and time again when he was doing SPN? And why is he in a far better mood when he was with Walker?

Imagine getting slighted and dissed at an event that was started because of you. You are looked down upon by colleagues whom you helped and advice to be part of this circuit. They don't even care for you and make fun of your expense, and you don't have any choice but to endure. Becoz lashing or saying anything will only hurt your image and will make you look like an asshole.

If this isn't enough, the same behavior is carried on to your work. People have realised that you won't do much about it, so the ill treatment continues at work. What makes it worse is that you have to not only act brotherly towards the guy who was the reason behind the ill-treament to maintain the facade but also stroke his ego and praise him for everything.

You will let it go at first, and you might take in a stride, but as it continues, it starts gnawing at you. Slowly, it starts chipping at you, making you sad and slowly you become disinterested in the work you used to like the most.

You could see this happening with Jared. There was a huge difference between Jared that was in the earlier panels vs. Jared that was in the panel towards the end of SPN. You could see how Jensen and fans' constant dissing and ridiculing made Jared vary. What made me angry was how Jensen and Co was trying to ridicule Jared about dad jokes simply because those are the ones that connect him the most with the audience. The entire drum roll beat is the most ridiculous thing of cons.

It is totally understandable why Jared said that Walker reignited his love for acting. Imagine how ugly it must have been for Jared that he stop loving the craft he once loved the most

[rebelsabers]

Misha Collins fans are never ever fail to be subhuman levels of evil and fucking braindead.

@castielsprostate YOU are an evil piece of shit for saying that holocaust denial is “harmless” especially when you turn around and tell someone who doesn’t have the platform Misha Collins has to just. “call country leaders” and say words which according to you are so harmless anyways. MISHA COLLINS was personally WITH Zelenskyy not too long ago. I will never get to do that no matter what because i don’t have the power and status Misha Collins has.

If Misha Collins denial of ethnic cleansing is so harmless then why do my words mean anything?

Misha Collins fans truly don’t care about the barest minimum level of human decency and will always care more about a rich, white male actor who tweets things that cause actual harm and death than they ever will about actual human lives. Their celebrity stan fandom experience is the only thing that matters in their life so to them criticizing someone who tweets out Holocaust denial is even worse than that actual denial itself.

Update: They prove my point again and again. They truly don’t care about human life and just want to make sure that no matter what, Misha Collins is never criticized for Holocaust denial.

When have I ever said anything to make it seem like I was feeling sorry for myself? I feel sorry for the children’s hospitals that are being bombed in Gaza that Misha Collins said isn’t genocide. Israeli leaders said that they’re not gonna stop until every single Palestinian is dead. The Director of the UNITED NATIONS said this is “textbook genocide” despite Misha’s denial of it.

Try caring about real people instead of protecting a celebrity online

[eisforeidolon]

so are mishas fans going to excuse his use of another slur this weekend ? can the man go two months without saying a slur ?

For anyone else who didn't catch it, reportedly what he said was the r word. Didn't see a quote or video, but it's not like context could save that if it happened. So as to your second (rhetorical) question? Apparently not, yikes.

To answer to your first question, though? Yes, as a group they will continue to excuse him. Why? It's not really a conscious one, but it's a mental calculation every time. Is what Misha said/did bad enough this time to finally outweigh his continuing to tell them what they want to hear about D/C? So you have to consider how absolutely obsessed they are with NEEDING to be right about the ship being totes canon. Even four years after the show is over, some of them are still making it their entire (online?) personalities. I'm not saying he'd have to murder someone in the street for them to stop defending him, but ...

We've seen minions and hellers swear up and down that really, it's representation and inclusivity they care about! While bullying actual people from the groups they're supposedly advocating for. While praising the only people involved in the show queerbaiting them and calling everyone else homophobes. While touting backwards stereotypes about sexuality and masculinity as gospel truth that prove their ship is real.

So of course they largely don't give a shit about Misha throwing out slurs, because their posturing of progressiveness has always been a front that makes a convenient weapon in their shipwar against reality rather than something they genuinely deeply care about. At least in the vast majority of cases. He'll likely lose some individual fans over it, but I'd be shocked if there was any significant backlash among that group as a whole.

If Jared had said that, they'd be metaphorically burning him at the stake and insisting he's too problematic to be in an SPN revival and should be boycotted forever (like they insist every other Thursday over nothing). If Jensen had said that, they'd be demanding he make out with Misha on stage at every convention and on screen in a revival as compensation for them being so hurt at his crass, backwards insensitivity. But since it's Misha and they know he'll continue to pander shamelessly to them? It's either gonna be [crickets] or twisting themselves in knots to justify why it's a-okay, actually.

[kvitka97]

So MC got in trouble for his slander of The CW, I’m shocked. He just cannot help himself, he’s an attention whore and he doesn’t care who he impacts with his BS as long as he’s getting the attention he craves… and if he can get some money from it too so much the better.

And his idiot minions laughing about him getting in trouble like it’s some kind of badge of honour. He’s jobless and has to play nice every weekend he can to get by. He’d better learn to stifle his queer-baiting.

I’d love it if Jensen had texted or called and told him to shut his mouth… break your sexy silence Jensen!! 😜

[shutup-misha]

(x)

The "also Cas is gay" wasn't bad enough, he had to include fanart. 🙄

Of course the minions/hellers eat it up, because their lives are sad.

"His part":

[nancylou444]

Jared says something bad in 2012, hellers would be all: omg he obv meant it and still thinks thia way today

Misha says the exact same thing today, hellers would be all: uhh its a joke obv, he doesnt mean ir

Exactly.

They have a double standard when it comes to misha vs Jared but they think the are 'the good side of the fandom'.

[thej2report]

I'm so sick and tired of hellers. Why will they not go away.

destiel is not and never will be cannon. Jensen has stated several times that it's not real and doesn't exist. Stop forcing destiel crap on him at every con. The only reason he hasn't told you guys to fuck off yet is he's to nice of a guy. He also knows that if he would tell you people, he wasn't signing anything related to your sick, twisted, delusional ship or do photo ops that were destiel related yall would go mental on him. He knows that you people would attack him, call him homophobic amd make his life a living hell.

Jensen is never going to validate a ship that goes against what is already established 100% cannon on the show. He has told you people several times that Dean was straight. That was how he played him. Listen to Jensen, he knows Dean better then anyone. He played him for 25yrs. The creator (Kripke) plus writers and other people who had to do with the show have said that Dean was straight. Get over it! Get the mental help you people seriously need. Get on the right medication, and the delusions will stop.

Just because Jensen didn't tell you no for a destiel themed op doesn't mean he's saying it's cannon or real. The same goes for when you shove your destiel themed crap at him for a autograph. He's just to nice to say no to you freaks.

Ops like this needs to stop. Stop shoving your delusional ship on him. Jensen will never say its real. You can always see in the destiel/cockles ops how uncomfortable he looks. misha leads you people on lies and you're to stupid to realize it.

Why do they insist that they don't know why other fans say that Jensen hates their delusional ship. They all know he doesn't like and yet the still shove it on him.

Hellers are so delusional and out of touch with reality. News flash Jai just because Jensen did a photo op with a couple hellers wearing shirts promoting a nonexistent and sick ship does NOT mean Jensen is saying it's cannon.

Do hellers ever get tired of making up stories of what "supposed" to have happened during ops or autos for that matter that only they magically see. Anyone with even half a brain knows that autos ond ops are very fast paced. The guys wouldn't be able to just stand there for 5 minutes holding stuff up talking. Jensen would never just stand there and rub misha's shoulders and talk in his ear. This chick is making them out to be a couple or something and the whole story is just gross. What the hell is a unicorn laugh? These people seriously need mental health help.

If misha would shut his mouth and stop pandering to them and their delusions maybe they would slowly go away. misha will not stop egging them on. These sickobfans are his meal ticket. The more he panders to them using destiel the more of his stuff the buy.

[eisforeidolon]

This.

Again, this is clearly not a memory issue. Sure, a memory issue could possibly conflate two incidents that both happened in airplane bathrooms. It might cause him to misremember turbulence happening during the phone incident. It would NOT insert new, entirely implausible details where Jared somehow talked an airplane pilot into fucking around (in a completely unsafe lawsuit-inducing, license-losing way) just to paint himself as the victim of terrible evil bully Jared. Just like his fans want to believe! What a coincidence! Not.

It is part of a repeated, calculated pattern of behavior. It's very clear he doesn't remotely give a single fuck what kind of fallout there might be from his stories, so long as his delusional nutball stans continue to over-identify with him and give him money. He would throw his own fucking grandma under the bus for a buck, so inciting another round of vicious hate sent Jared's way over shit he just made up? Just another day of 'being a Misha'!

Just FYI, a video of the panel is now up and the tweets are indeed accurate as to what he said:

For any fan of Misha to believe what he supposedly said in today's panel about taking a prank too far, they must either be new to the fandom, or have absolutely no memory of these stories before.

Let's be honest, the fans who think Misha's telling the truth "this time" absolutely know it's not true and are using this new story to persecute Jared, once again.

For those who haven't seen, here are the tweet reports from Misha's panel. Obviously, video will provide proof, but there are enough details to get the gist and these aren't the standard Misha-fan con reporters that like to lie about or twist what was said.

So, the original story about Jared taking a picture was told by Misha on the Inside of You podcast (see below). There was no zero gravity dive. Misha simply forgot to lock the bathroom door. Jared took a picture of him on the toilet, not naked and with no urine in sight. And yes, in retaliation, Misha flushed Jared's phone... the one that had the only pictures of his son, Shep's birth.

As for the getting knocked around, being covered in urine, etc. That comes from a trip Misha took with Rich, Rob, and Matt down to Australia for a convention. Misha tells the story here:

Matt, Rob and Rich have all corroborated that story here and here. It's actually a pretty funny story on it's own.

So, Misha put together some mash up of these two stories, making him the victim (once again) of a dangerous stunt supposedly perpetrated by Jared (which no pilot would ever agree, especially without all passengers belted).

If you haven't caught on by now, Misha lies. And he lies for a purpose. Most often, it's to engender sympathy from his fans so they'll continue to see him as poor, picked-on Misha who can related to them because they are also the 'outcasts' in their world. And if he can relate to them, then they'll continue to give him their money.

You may also wonder why Misha frequently references Jared as being the one to prank him (and often, the only one). One, because he needs Jensen as the other half of the Destiel pairing, which is another way to keep his fans dropping money in the coffers. And two... jealousy. From past stories and behavior, it's obvious Misha's jealous that Jared is as successful as he is, someone who never went to college but has worked steadily for over 24 years in an industry rife with unemployment. Misha likes to say things that imply Jared's only gotten by on his looks and not any kind of talent, but we know that's simply not the case. Actor's aren't employed for that long and that consistent on their looks alone. Talent and hard work are also needed, two traits which Misha obviously doesn't have, so he resorts to stringing along his dwindling fanbase with any story he can, regardless of it's veracity or whom it may hurt in the process.

Finally, Misha knows exactly who his fans are and how his fanbase takes the things he's said, so if he's ever called out and says he was joking and that people misinterpreted what he said, he's lying. And I'd say that lying was the only thing he was good at if it weren't so easy to debunk the lies.

[jarpadswalker]

I doubt you're ok with anyone who's criticizing Jared or saying anything against him. How is it different from being AA?

I know you'll say "They don't criticize Jared's it's just hate", but what would be an example of someone criticising Jared and not being a hater? I never saw you being ok with ANY criticism he gets. AAs are the same - they see every criticism as hate.

No, there is a huge difference between criticism and hate... When someone calls Jared, an average actor or a B-List actor, I am okay with that criticism. When he is criticise for some of his acting choices Jared stans are okay with that...We don't bombard critics ask box with questioning their loyalty...We don't go and blame the person for not being a fan just coz he/she dared to dislike Jared's acting.

It is not Same with AA, the moment someone criticise Jensen acting you will have AAs crowding your ask box trying to change your opinion and if that doesn't happens they will question your loyalty and at the end call you a hater.

For Jared stans what constitutes hate is when AAs tried to vote down Walker without even watching it. You watch Walker and hate it, it is okay. That is your choice, but you don't watch the show yet, You criticise and try to influence others to not watch it. Try to fudge its rating just cause you are jealous that Jared got a show while your fave didnt. That is hate. And what worst is AAs werent even hiding their malicious act they were legit commenting that they didn't watch the show or trailer but they are sure its bad and so they are rating it 1star.How do you know it is bad when you didnt watched a single thing.

Jensen backstabbed Jared and acted like complete ass during TW, but Jared stans didn't down vote the show without watching it.Those who criticised were the ones who watched or at least tried to watch that mess. Most Importantly none of the Jared stanever said - if you are true Jared stan then you won't watch the show.

As far as hate is concerned, then there is no comparison between AAs and Jared stan. Most Jared don't care what Jensen does until some anon like yourself post an ask, highlighting his statement of whatever he is doing. None of the Jared stans are interested in keeping a tab on magazines he is interviewed or the organisation he is associated with. Most importantly, none of the Jared stans approach any company or organization associated with Jensen and tell them that he is awful and they should break their association. Even after Jensen acting as ass none of Jared stan had ever asked him to die or wished ill on his family or business. We didn't cheer when we learned about his near death experience with a plane. Again, most importantly, even when Jared stan criticise Jensen, they never tag Jensen.

The same can't be said for AAs. AAs and their extension Hellers have tagged Jared in the post where they wished him death. There are posts where idiots like AA have wished Ode to chole to death. There are post by AAs and hellers where they approached companies associated with Jared on social media and told them how they shouldn't work with Jared. They approached Out YouTh like dumb idiots and asked them to return the donation from Padaleckis. knowingly spreading misinformation about Jared is like a rite of passage to become an AA.

So you see, Anon Jared stan and AAs aren't the same. AAs don't criticise they hate. One thing that AAs know the best is to play victim whenever they are called out.

[eisforeidolon]

I'M PISSED OFF BY MISHA'S ATTITUDE AND LIES TOWARDS JARED!

HE'S GONE TOO FAR. SAYING THAT THING ABOUT JARED AND PLAYING THE VICTIM WHEN HE IS ACTUALLY JUST A LYING NARCISSIST. I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW PEOPLE CAN STILL SUPPORT HIM AND BELIEVE IN WHATEVER HE SAYS.

JARED SHOULD REALLY SUE HIM AT THIS POINT FOR WHAT HE'S SAYING ABOUT HIM.

You know, I was trying to remember yesterday just how many times it's been now where Misha has surpassed himself in being a bitter, gross, ungrateful and jealous little troll to the point it astonished me. Like, did he really say that?!? Wow.

Like, it started out with the occasional sly imprecation and it seems like the more irrelevant he becomes and the more he's gotten away with? The more emboldened he's gotten to just tell more and more blatantly ridiculous and even potentially harmful lies. I kind of feel like at this point, until he openly says something so absolutely, undeniably putrid that J2 find out and cut him off, it really is going to keep escalating indefinitely.

I mean, I honestly find the fans letting him get away with it less baffling than him doing it in the first place. Because we've already seen that in their desperation to pretend getting canon D/C is the most important cause ever in LGBT+ history, they will believe anyone who tells them what they want to hear and try to throw anyone who they see as "in the way" under the bus. So, yeah, Misha could bitchslap their grandma and run over their dog and they'd still live up his ass. Talking any level of shit about Jared is a-okay with them, because they already want to believe he's evil for Sam existing at the center of SPN instead of their shitty ship. Not only that? But at the end of the day, they really have nothing to lose. Their wackadoodle online behavior isn't likely to have any impact on their IRL lives, and even in terms of online lives? For the most part, they could slink away from their batshit heller identities tomorrow and have a clean slate.

Misha though? Like, what the actual fuck are you doing, dude, you're not just burning real life personal and professional bridges, you're trying to nuke them from orbit. Sure, he's not getting any new roles because anyone in the business of hiring can see the caliber of his "acting talent" in the last several seasons of SPN. But is he really that confident he thinks no level of backstabbing is going to get his ass booted from conventions and any potential revival? Can he actually be stupid enough to have bought so far into the smoke his stans are blowing up his ass to think that he's actually as indispensable as J2? One line about how Cass is busy in heaven and boom, he's acceptably accounted for to the majority of the GA.

Even the nicest, most forgiving person in the universe is going to eventually say enough is enough. Basically accusing Jared of endangering his life to try and make his own actions of flushing Jared's phone look less shitty by comparison is ... I don't have words. How much lower can he even go? Unfortunately, I suspect we'll continue to find out.