#anti kogayame

[maradigma]

lovingly laying it on you~ 💔 ✌ 💚 💤 👎

Thanks, love 😍

Ship that makes me sad 💔:

Gonna go with Inukik there, the tragedy aspect isnt for me. but even tho I dont ship it — jfc the bullying for this ship is way out of line. Some people make it their sole mission in life to tear it down, and it’s really not that bad of a ship.

Ship that I find cute but dont ship ✌️:

Mirsan, lol. I can see how they’re good for each other but I’m just not a Miroku stan generally speaking.

Ship that you secretly like 💚:

Inusan,,,, jshshsjs. This is hard cause mannnn if Kagome didnt exist istg Inusan would’ve been one of my biggest OTPs, it’s honestly GOOD. I think Inuyasha would’ve worked well with Sango and the warrior respect between them is 💯💯 (I thank Masita for opening my eyes to this ship, btw.)

Ship that is canon but dont ship 💤:

Uhh Koga/Ayame… if you can call it canon even??? Ayame is an anime-only Sunrise filler creation that was literally just invented to try make Sessrin seem ””okay”” in the anime, lmfao. Anyway yeah, dont ship it, it’s sketchy af and shoehorned into the story. 🤷🏼‍♀️

Ship that you cant see happening 👎:

Hmmmm basically Sesshomaru with anyone who isnt a well-trained, seasoned fighter, and also Kagome with any enemy character, I dont think she’s someone who’d ever change sides, or go with anyone who ever hurt/insulted Inuyasha. 😅 That girl is Lawful Good™.

[withourusualwords]

I'm getting real tired of InuYasha normalizing pedophilia.

[shinidamachu]

Have you heard the latest fandom drama on Twitter? Sessrinners are starting to bash InuKag and are calling them a “bland ship.” Jokes on them, I think they’re just jealous that InuKag have what their ship will never, which is actual chemistry. Even if you introduced Rin as an adult but kept everything else the same they’d still be a very bland, boring ship. Sesshomaru barely even speaks to Rin, she has more dynamic interaction with Jaken. It’s just an extremely basic and safe “pure girl defrosts ice king” ship, meanwhile InuKag’s chemistry is always sizzling, what makes them such a great match in particular is how they’re both so opposite yet also really similiar at the same time, because Kagome is just as feisty & temperamental as him so you always get really entertaining back & forths between them and there’s never a dull moment when they’re both on screen. I’d even rather watch their high drama moments like love triangle bs then the snorefest that occurs when Sessrin come on screen, as annoying as it can be at least it actually keeps me engaged. They’re projecting because they know their ship is the actual bland & boring one, not InuKag.

You're right. They are jealous that Inukag have what their ship will never have. However, that's not limited to romantic chemistry only (and I add "romantic" here because sᴇssʜᴏᴍᴀʀᴜ and ʀɪɴ did have chemistry, but it was exclusively fraternal).

Something else Inuyasha and Kagome have that sᴇssʀɪɴ lacks is an epic love story, that we saw start, then shift, then develop, then push, then pull. It not only made sense for the narrative, but for both characters, in a sense that made them grow as individuals and as a couple. The show breathed life into their dynamic as much as their dynamic breathed life into the show.

Above everything, Inukag was validated time and time again by the original author and either people liked the pairing or not, it was widely accepted within the fandom as absolute canon while sᴇssʀɪɴ was discredit by Takahashi as a platonic bond between guardian and his ward and it is only accepted as canon by its shippers. Antis will never validate it and neutrals supposedly do not care either way. That's the majority of the fandom being indifferent to it or straight up hating on it.

And that's what they can't stand.

They know that their ship is problematic otherwise they wouldn't need to age her up, retcon the way they met, erase sᴇssʜᴏᴍᴀʀᴜ's visits or go that extra mile to display ʀɪɴ as the dominant partner to make up for the power imbalance that came from sᴇssʜᴏᴍᴀʀᴜ holding a place of authority over her for the entirety of their canon interactions.

They know that the way the relationship was depicted in the sequel was unsatisfactory and it only served to proof our points. The producers themselves have stated they don't know how to write this pairing in a romantic light because that's not how they were portrayed in the original material.

But shippers could never admit any of that because that would mean admiting they were wrong. So what do they do? They try to turn very serious issues into a ship war (even with Inukag, that was never even a rival ship) in the hopes that this deception could trick the rest of us into thinking both sides are on equal foot morally speaking.

And to do that, they don't hype up their ship. They know it wouldn't work and that their best chance is to try to bring other ships down to their level instead, so that's what they do. Hands the bashing. because that's their modus operandi.

Their arguments basically come down to "oh, but Sesskagu is just as bad," "oh, but Kogayame was just as creepy", "oh, but Inukag was abusive as well," "oh, but Mirsan is problematic too," and they are a lot of bullshit, but they'll keep doing it.

Because if they can't convince us at least they can still try to convince themselves.

[ouranor]

I think I know exactly what happened in the replies 🙄

Koga and his fiance ❖ requested by mermaidhairxoxo

[kisant]

You know, this is a really good example of how sessrin is such a shitty pairing that they literally have to steal romantic moments from other, superior pairings like Inukik (this Kikyo scene), Inukag (I remember a different sessrinner longing for the inukag scene of Inuyasha’s first human night in the show in which he ended up resting his head on Kagome’s lap) and Sesskagu (the flower field scene) 

You’d think, if sessrin was actually a good pairing that was obviously meant to happen from the start (as sessrinners claim), they’d have romantic scenes of their own instead of having to steal from other pairings, right? OH RIGHT, they DON’T have any romantic scenes because Rin was, and still is, a WHOLE ASS CHILD and Sesshomaru’s ward, and original Sesshomaru wasn’t pedophilic trash. Who are they going to steal from now, Mirsan or Narkik? Maybe Kogkag or Kogayame? At this point it’s anyone’s guess, because even Naraku and Kikyo had better romantic moments than fucking sessrin, just by virtue of both of them being adults and the romantic tension existing in the first place, unrequited and hateful as it was.

In fact, not even Yashahime’s Pedomaru has any “romantic” scenes with his child bride, since he stole her children without a word, does not acknowledge her even after allegedly giving birth to the twins, allowed the forest he left the twins in to be set on fire, and left her stuck in a magical coma tree. Damn, even Naraku was more of a gentleman towards Kikyo than Pedomaru is to poor Rin. I’m serious about this, Naraku had a whole character arc about his conflicted feelings towards Kikyo, trying to understand how much of his feelings were his own and how much were Onigumo’s, and whether or not he was going to be able to overcome his “human” side and those leftover feelings well enough to be able to attack her, while Pedomaru didn’t show a lick of hesitation or internal conflict about his treatment of Rin and the twins. 

Fucking NARAKU hesitated more and had a bigger internal conflict about hurting Kikyo than Pedomaru did about hurting and neglecting Rin qnd the twins in Yashahime. That’s the “canon” sessrin shippers are so happy about. Honestly, at this rate I’m surprised that they even bother to “celebrate canon sessrin”, since it’s painfully obvious that Yashahime didn’t deliver on the kind of fanfiction they wanted to watch, and instead gave them Lolicon Fantasy Theater 3000, Feudal Era Edition. 

Yashahime: The sequel where the original villain wins a morality battle not by improving his own morals or fixing his own issues, but because the anti-hero character has sunk low enough for the original, DEAD villain to win by default.

And the result is completely unsurprising, since Yashahime, for some reason, decided to remove all of Sesshomaru’s redeeming qualities and substitute them with child grooming and pedophilia towards his own barely teenaged ward, whom he proceeded to not give a shit about for the entire sequel after impregnating her at the old age of 14. Truly the epitome of romance.

Someone let me steal this gem

See how you're not getting what you want that you have you put her head on Kikyo's body and the audacity to use a SessKagu scene? Tsk tsk.

So this is what you guys wanted and Sunrise is not delivering. Just say it: Yashahime sucks ass and my ship looks like shit in this shitty sequel. Stop licking their boots already, they won't give you the crack you're after.

[sessrin-narkik-enthusiast]

You saying you are being silent on this, not surfing its tag is kinda contradicting to the fact that you have your own little anti-sessrin gc (purely just dedicated to just talk and dwell about the topic every day) doesn't it? I thought it makes yall uncomfortable? I'm genuinely wondering why. I myself wouldn't even wanna talk about smth I HATE, let alone on a DAILY basis but maybe that's your thing 🥴

But sure that's beside the point. If I ever come across a person who says it triggers them then I'd surely apologize (but I have yet to see one.) But as you see, all the antis I've come across are the ones calling us pedophiles and groomers as a mock and absolutely WHY tf would I apologize to them?

Something that also really bothers me, why is it only sessrin alone that bothers you all so much? To the point that you all identify as sessrin anti? But never a Kogayame anti? Or a Miroku anti? Miroku is a literal harasser and yet he never got as much persecution as sessrin is experiencing now. Are yall saying SessRin triggers yall but Miroku DOESN'T? Do most if you antis actually CARE about the victims and the issues of real-life pedophilia and grooming? Or do a lot of yall just use these as leverage to your advantage over a ship war? That would be horrible and disgusting now wouldn't it? Much to think about..

What do you think of this whole "ppl shipping SessRin are basically supporting paedophilia” on tumblr? I've seen lots of japapense fans on twitter and they're all basically happy for the huge possibility of having Rin as Sesshomaru's wife and the mother of Towa and Setsuna, and then I go to tumblr and see all these SessRin bashing, saying that their bond should have kept platonic, the "real" sesshomaru will not behave romantically with Rin, etc. Idk what to think? :/ What are your thoughts?

oh goody, this is going to be a long one.

it’s so ridiculous 🙄 I’ve seen this “paedophilia” argument so many times and it’s triggering how they misuse this term so much. Especially as a law student (pet peeve: people misusing technical terms and making very serious (false) accusations).

Paedophilia tends to be the umbrella term for everything with a big age gap or when one party of the couple knew the other party as a child, which shows how uneducated they are with their try hard activism. Paedophilia is a psychiatric disorder, when an adult is primary or exclusively sexually attracted to prepubescent children.

No one in their right mind ships Sesshomaru with Rin while she was still a kid, I’ve yet to see someone who actively ships them in a romantic setting with her still being a kid. All the shippers I’ve come across and fanworks made, are her being a young adult or adult.

The other term they’re throwing around is “grooming”, while thinking it means he groomed her into his wife, which is also false and a misuse of the term. Grooming happens, when an adult is befriending and establishing an emotional connection with a child in order to lower the child’s inhibitions with the object of sexual abuse. Sessh didn’t approach her with any sexual intentions in mind, he tolerated her following him out of pity, which turned into being her protector after a while. As I see it, Jaken was more of a father figure for her than Sessh was. He ignored her most of the times, just watching over her and made sure she was safe (i mean, like a dog…a guard dog). And he certainly didn’t “groom” her into being his wife, that dude did not show any signs of romantic interest while she was a child. Heck, he was pretty stoic most of the times.

The fact, that people who saw Sessh as a father figure for Rin exist, is actually our strongest argument against their paedophilia accusation. They wouldn’t have been able to perceive their relationship as such in the first place, if there were ANY romantic advances or signs while she was a child. Wanna see and read about a real pedophile story/relationship? Go read Lolita by Vladimir Nobakov, it’s disturbing.

Another form of grooming happens, when someone is manipulated until they’re isolated, dependent and more vulnerable to exploitation (can also happen with adults). Though it was only a filler episode, in episode 162 (Forever with Lord Sesshomaru), Sessh even gave her the free choice to either stay with humans or follow him (with his trademark line “do as you please”). In the Manga she was staying with Kaede in the end. And she was friends with Kohaku. She mostly fended for herself (with Jaken), foraging for food in the wild or secretly on farms. Rin was certainly not isolated or dependent. I’m not even digging into the exploitation point, because there is nothing to say.

I admit, they way SessRin developed is not completely unproblematic and the biggest factor is, that he met her while she was still a child. I can agree with that, but most SessRin shippers do not ship them because he knew her as a child, but because she was the first one who he cared for. If you break it down, it’s pretty much the cold-emotionless-bad boy-falls-for-a-girl-after-being-shown-kindness-for-the-first-time trope. SessRin shippers would’ve also shipped them if Rin was the same age as Kagome the first time they’ve met. Rin being a child when they met is not the base of this ship, it’s their relationship and how she broke through Sessh’s walls and that she was the first (human) being he ever cared for. She was also the reason Sessh slowly began to accept Tenseiga as his sword.

People who are saying Sessh went out of character and should’ve stayed on platonic terms with Rin, clearly have no idea about storytelling and character development. Sessh is a dog demon. Inuyasha is a dog demon. Inu no Taisho was a dog demon. Rin is a human, Kikyo was a human, Kagome is a human, Izayoi was a human. Basically, dogs love humans and create very strong bonds with them. Even staying loyal when their owner mistreats or abuses them. The whole series builds up on this dog-human dynamic. Basically every romantic interest involving a dog demon ended up being a dog-human pair. What’s not clicking?

I also find it quite funny, how some of those people can also ship Kagome and Inuyasha while preaching their (false) paedophilia speech in the same sentence. Kagome was 15 when she met 200 year old Inuyasha. 15. That’s a teenager. I’m 26 and when I see 15 year olds, they look like toddlers to me. I don’t see anyone advocating for Kagome’s minor rights. The whole world flipped when Drake was dating a 18 year old but the fandom is still pretty silent about the fact, that Kagome was also 18 when she was married to 203 y/o Inuyasha in the epilogue. InuKag and SessKag shippers don’t get the same criticism as SessRin shippers, even though Kagome is also still a minor and that’s where you see the hypocrisy.

They can ship her because her design looks older and it’s easier to forget that she’s 15/18. Usagi from Sailor Moon was 14 when she met and began a romantic relationship with Mamoru, who was 17. Even though both are considered minors, 14 is a lot different than 17 but nobody bat an eye for that either. Probably it’s because Usagi doesn’t look like a 14 year old. Kagome doesn’t look like a 15 year old. But Rin looks her age, she looks like an 8 year old when they first met, evoking a different perception in people of being a minor, the age gap and her vulnerability. That’s the only reason I can think of, why people are fine with InuKag, SessKag, KogaKag and whatever, even though it’s essentially almost the same setting as with SessRin. Rin is a minor, Kagome is a minor, they both are protected by their stronger and much older demon travel partners. And its hypocritical to try and argue a difference because grooming and abuse of an 8 year old is such as horrific as of an 15 year old. If one of them is a victim, then both are.

I’m not trying to shit on InuKag or other Kagome ships btw., I love Kagome and InuKag, I’m just trying to show the hypocrisy in their fake activism, because it’s not based on facts and information but rather on subjective feelings and perception. It’s fine and legitimate to not like SessRin because of said reasons, but it is wrong to judge others for shipping it and accuse them of supporting paedophilia. People who are triggered by SessRin, should stay away from it but leave those alone, who enjoy it.

Oh and before someone runs their mouth at me and use personal history as an argument, I’ve been a victim of paedophilia and grooming myself. I was touched and molested by my private tutor for years between 5th and 7th grade. But I’ve overcome my trauma, educated myself and I’m able to tell fiction from reality. Nobody watches Inuyasha for relationship and dating advice. Misusing terms is actually harming the ones involved and projecting one own’s traumas and struggles onto others, by shaming them for shipping something is not helping anyone and doesn’t make a difference at all.

Lastly, no SessRin shipper is condoning real life child/adult relationships. We are able to ship them because fictional stories are less dimensional than real life situations are. Fictional relationships have less nuances, cherry picked dynamics and moments that make us perceive them in a specific way. It is man made. What seems romantic in a fictional story (even between two adults) may be littered with red flags or less exciting and boring in a real life setting. People consume fiction mainly for entertainment, not for real life and dating advice.

Remember, this is just a fictional story, just chill the f out.