#anti j7

[star-trek-fandom-confessions]

#521

"I don't get Janeway x Seven shippers. That's her mom. Feels like shipping Janeway x Harry Kim."

[this-geek]

asking you those fandom asks! <3

3, 12, and 13 ❤️

Thank you so much for asking about these questions. I love talking fanfiction.

3. NoTP?

It's probably Janeway x 7 (or C/7 for that matter lol), I know it's popular, but I just don't get it. I'll never stand in the way of people who do, but it's not for me.

12. What's the funniest or craziest AU idea you've ever come up with?

If I'm going with published works only. It's gotta be the AU where I made Kate Stewart (Doctor Who) the twin sister of Bernie Wolfe (Holby City). I thought it was a fun idea, but fanfic dot net did not lol so I never bothered migrating it over to ao3.

13. What's a character or ship you haven't written/drawn yet but would like to some day?

I have 2 answers. Mirandy and Spaceparents. The former I have never published for (all my ideas end up being multi chapter epics that get abandoned 3 days after starting) and the latter, I've only once done something but it is now lost to the ether. I think I want to read more of them before I write for them.

[mylittleredgirl]

Janeway/Seven for the ask game?

(ship asks) (sorry i lost this in my drafts for a while!!)

Don’t Ship It...... but

1. Why don’t you ship it?

i kind of debated how to answer this because i do ship it in the sense that it's intensely interesting to me, there's a LOT of canon to work with, and sometimes i like to play around with that canon and stare at it and pick it apart, but i usually come away from it saying "hmm. don't like this for seven." there is soooo much tangled romantic and sexually charged energy between them, but i find some specifics of their power imbalance uncomfortable for a romantic arc, so i don't tend to seek out fic. in the final balance, i don't ship it more than i do.

2. What would have made you like it?

honestly, it's a fluke of timing. i watched voyager live as a young teen girl who was trying and failing to both be and not be my mother, so that intensely intimate push and pull between janeway and seven as seven fights to define herself hit me a certain way. (i was also trying and failing to end up straight and so was aggressively het-reading everything from this to xena warrior princess.) but if i had been five years older and had internet access to fanfic, it would have been the perfect moment to hit me with "hot powerful older woman wants to both help and control the most beautiful young woman ever (who has Something Wrong With Her), and ends up loving her sooooo much that she's fully insane about it."

and i somehow skipped over that critical period because now i'm closer to janeway's age and i work sometimes with newly-adult girls who imprint on me because they're going through something and i'm an authority figure who's being kind to them, so it's harder for me to drop in and enjoy a power imbalance fantasy.

3. Despite not shipping it, do you have anything positive to say about it?

YES!!! it's one of the great femslash ships!! there's so much canon interaction that's intense and emotional and shippy as hell. i have no doubt in my mind that janeway loves seven. seven is a challenge and an obligation and a gift and her most interesting project and her intellectual match and her feral rescue dog and her surrogate daughter and her noble accomplishment and her unwilling protege and her friend and the most intense emotional relationship she has. seven's feelings are deeply and understandably conflicted. they're both damaged and do damage to each other. i feel the need to jump up and defend j7 even though i don't ship it, because i'm mostly a j/c shipper and there are sooooooo many j7 deniers there who pretend there's no canon basis for j7 and it's like. come on. come onnnnnnn with your eyes and your ears. it's one thing if you don't like that it's happening, my position here is that half the time seven doesn't really like it either, but it's there.

[joelletwo]

[oracle barbs' team BOP's] First appearance: Black Canary/Oracle: Birds of Prey #1 (January 1996) Star Trek: Voyager [...] aired from January 16, 1995

something in the water [my birth] [^ live doc reaction]

[fate-motif]

"only veterans of 2017 star trek fandom drama will understand that reference" do tell? 👀

oh god oh fuck.

i’m not even going to go into depth because i have some shit to do today but like. in 2017 circles of voyager fans who saw janeway as a lesbian, mostly j7 shippers, started reblogging an image of janeway in that meme that’s like THIS X IS GAY AND THERE’S NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT. and then that image reached people who saw janeway as bisexual, mostly jc shippers, who could not take the audacity of that image reaching their dashboard, so they started pouring in a lot of outrage about how they were doing bi erasure on janeway because in canon she has a lot of relationships with men. which, of course, the lesbian hcers took umbrage with because if they were only allowed to hc women that had zero relationships with men in the franchise they would obviously have no characters to see themselves in even in the fandom world, and it was doubly hypocritical considering janeway obviously never had any romantic relationships with women either so what made the bi hc that much more real than the lesbian hc etc. etc.

christ i’m old and i’m tired. janeway isn’t real and if someone sees you play with the same action figure you have in a way you don’t like maybe just don’t talk to them, kids.

[jennyandvastraflint]

I went from "Chakotay is annoying and I'm skipping him-centric episodes and scenes to avoid negative emotions" to "FUCK IT I HATE HIM WITH A BURNING PASSION NOW AND I HOPE THE BURNING PASSION BURNS HIS PLANK OF WOOD CHARACTER"

(I'm fairly certain it's multiple factors playing into that. But this is not a safe space for Chakotay fans, I cannot deal with that guy who has as much character and depth as a plank of wood. I call him only Planky)

[farrawayfromthere]

janeway is like if dr. frankenstein refused to give up on his creation, an anti-frankenstein, cruel not in her denial of seven’s humanity but sometimes cruel in her insistence upon it

[lonely-night]

a confession post about anti j7 show up on my "janeway x seven" search..... 2024, we're still on this janeway/seven are mother/daughter bullshit huh

just make me do more work to add the anti tag huh

[tribble-ations]

Girl help my post that was half about IWTV and half about how I’d be more into J7 if people wrote it as more fucked up has breached containment so badly it’s getting reblogged by Harry Potter and anti communist blogs. Is it time to kill it (turn reblogs off)?

[sefaradweb]

Un estudio releva un significativo aumento del antisemitismo en la Argentina

🇪🇸 Una encuesta realizada por la Liga Antidifamación (ADL) reveló un significativo aumento del antisemitismo en Argentina, con un índice de 5.69, siendo superado solo por Francia con 4.95, dentro del grupo J7 que alberga las mayores poblaciones judías fuera de Israel. El estudio, llevado a cabo entre el 27 de febrero y el 8 de marzo de 2024, destacó un resurgimiento de actitudes antisemitas a nivel global tras el ataque de Hamas a Israel el 7 de octubre de 2023. Incidentes alarmantes incluyen el reciente ataque a una joven judía en los suburbios de París. La encuesta encontró que el 40% de los encuestados en países del J7 coincidieron con estereotipos antisemitas, siendo Argentina la que mostró niveles más altos. Entre las preocupaciones específicas se incluyen creencias sobre la responsabilidad judía en conflictos globales y percepciones distorsionadas en el discurso sobre el Holocausto.

🇺🇸 A survey conducted by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) revealed a significant rise in antisemitism in Argentina, with an index of 5.69, second only to France at 4.95, among the J7 group nations with the largest Jewish populations outside Israel. The study, conducted between February 27 and March 8, 2024, highlighted a resurgence in antisemitic attitudes globally following Hamas's October 7, 2023 attack on Israel. Disturbing incidents include a recent assault on a young Jewish girl in Paris suburbs. The survey found that 40% of respondents in J7 countries agreed with antisemitic stereotypes, with Argentina showing the highest levels. Specific concerns include beliefs about Jewish responsibility for global conflicts and perceptions related to Holocaust discourse distortions.

[insanewaykathy]

The only problem is that the bet didn't stop there (lol) Seven and Chakotay have no chemistry at all, they don't fit together at all. I'm anti-C7 not because I'm J/C, but because this relationship would need a lot of things to work out and that would take a lot more time. But they decided to do it in just one episode. A creative and efficient way to make J/C and J7 fans put their fists in their mouths. As @bizships said, we can imagine that C7 was always a holodeck program so as not to fuck up our brains trying to think otherwise 🤣

Live footage of me watching Human Error

I know it's not real (it can't hurt you(not yet)) and I am all for seven exploring in a safe space. So i hope to god chakotay doesn't find out cause I feel like that would be a massive breach of privacy. You're allowed to kiss anyone and have sex with anyone in your imagination. So if she decides to tell him then im all for it but if not. Then I'll be feeling violated on her behalf.

[realita-lampung]

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[leobashi]

J7 69 and Anti

[lodessa]

#made this bc im love j7 but feel free to rb if ur jc

It is a truth universally acknowledged than a Voyager fan ranking alternative ships for their members OTP, would prefer literally anything to C7. 

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[jennyandvastraflint]

Did I mention I fucking hate Chakotay btw... I don't know what it is, but in five seasons I have not warmed up to him AT ALL. I see him as a mildly annoying man at best. But urghhh.

Also, wtf are they trying to pull with him suddenly speaking to Seven, he hasn't spoken five friendly words with her since she joined the crew, and the dialogue in S6Ep2 was clearly written for Janeway and Seven. It's literally how Janeway would talk and how Seven would react to her. It does not FUCKING work with Planky. Urgh. Do I seriously have to sit through two seasons of the writers trying to force this completely non-compatible ship.....

Fuck homophobia, J7 is canon and I will ignore everything I choose to ignore