#anti hosie for ts

[occulthours]

out of curiosity, are you a hosie or a hizzie? you're pretty loud about your dislike for handon, but i rarely see you post either hosie or hizzie.

Honestly, I had to think hard to answer this because I really did enjoy aspects of both ships. Short answer, I like both but don't love either. If I had to choose I would likely say Hizzie.

With Hosie I feel like they lacked a lot of the depth despite them being the most popular ship in the show. Ironically enough, they followed in KC's footsteps in that sense. They never really had enough build-up for them to start a relationship at any point in the show and it didn't help that the writers seemingly put a ban on them in s3. After being called out for queerbaiting the audience they just decided to completely cut Hope and Josie off from each other, even in situations that would've called for them to interact (s2 literally ended with them having an episode heavily centric on their dynamic, yet there was no follow up in s3?).

Their dynamic for the most part bored me, even as someone who enjoys the friends-to-lovers trope. Often times their scenes felt a bit empty, which definitely could’ve been intentional on the writers part to dissuade people from shipping them to be fair! They just didn’t get enough content for me to fully jump on board. I do think that out of Hope's popular ships, they had the best chemistry. They felt very natural in the scenes they shared and could've been great in canon. Had DRR and Kaylee been given the chance, Hosie would’ve been one of the few canon Legacies ships that had real romantic chemistry.

Hope and Lizzie’s relationship very clearly the star of the show. The best elements of the show were jumpstarted by their relationship (their rivals-to-friends era in s1, their hilarious scenes in s2 and 3, and their tribrid/heretic, sirebond, and enemies era in s4). The writers put more effort into Hizzie than any other aspect of the show, including Hope and Lizzie's canon relationships with their boring boyfriends. Typically, Hizzie is the thing the Legacies writers are praised for the most, and the praise is deserved.

Based on the writing alone Hizzie would've gone down as one of my favorite TVDU ships, maybe even one of my favorite ships period. But I don’t think DRR and Jenny have much romantic chemistry. Very close friends and platonic soulmates, yes. Girlfriends... I'd have to actually see it to believe it. They had the potential to start something, especially in season 4, but I’m not sure how it would feel to actually watch them have romantic scene.

It’s hard to say which I'd rather have been canon because of this. I can't see how Hope and Josie’s relationship being entertaining to watch (assuming that I can't go back and rewrite their relationship) and unless DRR and Jenny were specifically toning down whatever romantic chemistry they may have, I can't see myself rooting for them to kiss on screen. If I absolutely had to choose? Before s4 I would’ve said Hizzie by a long shot, but s4 gave Hosie an edge (I love ships where one or both of them are obsessively down bad and s4 Josie fit that to a T. Josie caring more about the girl that beat her father nearly to death, threatened to kill her mother, and actually killed her sister? EAT EAT EAT!), but also the sirebond gave Hizzie a bit of an edge (how could you not get even a little buzz from “I hate you for making me love you”?)… Hizzie was the first Legacies ship I fell for so I feel like I’m always gonna be a bit bias towards them.

I’d choose either one of these ships over the train wreck that was Hope and Landon in a heartbeat though! Both had potential to be excellent in their own ways if H.ndon wasn’t shoved down our throats.

[elisabeth-forbes]

Penelope, Jade, Finch, Rafael, Hope (specifically, in order of preference *as romantic interests of Josie*)

I genuinely had to think about this because I have issues with most of them XD.

1. Penelope - I love how she just stirred up so much feeling in Josie. Even when Josie knew her and Lizzie didnt get along she still couldn't help but engage with her. And we got to see that darker jealous side of her which I thought was brilliant (also when someone said Josie was ooc because of hurting someone because of Landon I was like did you watch season 1 with the whole setting her ex on fire?). Also the ep in Josies mind we still see how it affects Josie. Plus she did put Josie first (even when she didn't want to be). I wish she would come back for like an episode or 2.

2. Finch - its fun and cute. They seem to bringing up the angst because of the merge. So I'm getting more interested in it.

side note - I have always shipped all of Josies LI with Lizzie because I find that they sometimes fall into what makes me like a ship and this is definitely the case with Finch. The episode where Lizzie goes into her mind - I just really liked that meet ugly aspect of it. But like considering how much her character says that Lizzie takes everything I'm just like - opps?

3. Rafael - They were cute but they didn't do enough with it. I can't see them together post-birthday because I think Josie got rid of all romantic feelings after Lizzie and Rafael hooked up.

4. Jade - it was just kinda there and it was another case of them not doing enough with it.

5. Hope - I liked them in season 1 but I have just 2 major issues with it that makes me go please don't go there.

the alaric thing where he seems to prefer Hope to his own daughters and they all know it.

the landon thing where everyone seems to love how it was handled but Josie looked absolutely miserable and you can see how it bothered her. Dark!Josie even brought it up so clearly it bothered her.

So it kind of makes go well wouldn't them getting together kind of mess up her arc? (also if that didn't put me off it the fans would have because jfc tag your hate against lizzie and hope and don't put it in their tags)