#anti f1 media

[vroomvroomthings]

British Commentators when Max won with a big gap: Oh wow, this is awful for the sport. Can't believe the monstrosity Newey has created. Newey surely made that car fast. It's amazing how good Newey is. The RB19 must be illegal. This is bad for the sport.

British commentators when a British driver wins by a big gap: What a heroic drive did X-driver pull off. Can't believe how good X-driver is. X-Driver's skills are unmatched. This is exactly what the sports need. X-Driver surely taught Max Verstappen something.

[dandelioneffect]

The way f1 media wants Yuki to fail and won’t treat him as anything other than a funny boy who wants to open a restaurant is crazy to me

[valyrfia]

i have to say the disconnect between the traditional media and the actual fan sentiment is absolutely wild in F1 at the moment. take oscar's overtake on lando in turn 1 in monza. every single fan that i've spoken to irl or seen online thinks it was the best move ever, super exciting to watch, and all in all just good racing whereas every single journalist immediately got on air and cried about it (looking at you will buxton) and chose into the baku weekend to continue to villainise oscar to hell for not just acting as second driver (even though there were no team orders to do so).

[wafflesrisa]

On the supposed breaching of a previous agreement

After so much misinformation has been debunked, the one item I’ve seen repeated again and again is that there was a prior agreement which Carlos supposedly broke - but Charles gave no actual information about what the agreement was.

Surely the logical conclusion to draw is that we simply don’t know what the agreement was, and so we cannot cast shade on either Charles nor Carlos off the back of the statement. We simply do not know.

Specifically, while we do know Charles subjectively thought an agreement was broken, we do not have any ability to evaluate whether that conclusion is objectively true. Indeed, we don’t even know whether Charles, when making that statement, even had all the facts to hand (given he is not privy to Carlos’ radio messages and debriefing had not yet happened).

In this context the statement from Charles cannot be taken as objective truth. At most, it is a clear indication he was feeling subjectively frustrated.

The response I’ve seen from all over social media seems to be “let’s take Charles’s word for it that trust was breached, even if we don’t know what the agreement was”.

We have no facts. We have no information. We cannot draw conclusions as to what the agreement was, and therefore we cannot know if Carlos actually breached it.

Until (if ever) we have more information, Charles’ comment can only be taken as evidencing his frustration, and no more.

[mirrorball-leclerc]

an f1 live event in front of hundreds of people? sounds like max verstappen is gonna hate that

[smallbearlady]

I am sooo disgusted about this whole situation in the f1 media around Daniel

I am angry

And I pray that Red Bull get their f*ing sense back

In the term of performance, you can not justify kicking Daniel and keeping Perez at the same time

yes VCarb is a junior team - and a junior team should teach juniors/rookies - but also for them getting a chance in Red Bull Racing

YOU say that Daniel doesn't deserve the Red Bull seat OK

So what about Yuki?

Both Yuki and Daniel had a better season than Checo given the car and the horrible strategies

Checo cost them over 5M pound - Sargeant or Mick got exted for less

Albon & Gasly got exed for less

Yuki would be a 100% option now than Perez

Daniel prob too

Man maybe even Liam in the RB20 would prob perform better

WHY TF DO WE TALK ABOUT DANIEL POSSIBLY GETTING EXED MID SEASON WHEN PEREZ IS ALLOWED TO PERFORM LESS THAN THE BARE MINIMUM

[slutforpringles]

I'm going to start on an unusually positive note by giving five points to Sergio Perez. He had a pretty ordinary race, very rare for him to get points. I'm not even sure if he's on the board at the moment, but I'm giving him five points for capitalizing on Red Bull Racing's struggles to try and save his own skin. Now he finished more than 16 seconds and two places behind Verstappen to which he reviewed, "I wish the gap had been a lot bigger and that Max was winning, because at the end that will only help the team in the Constructors' Championship." I like that he's owning the fact that he's contributing virtually nothing. But telling people that he's no longer the team's biggest problem, emphasizing that he's not the problem anymore = that level of rat-cunning deserves some points, and it's five from me.

F1 journalist Michael Lamonato calling out the complete hilarity and hypocrisy of Sergio Perez's post-race comments, as he awards him five points in the humorous alternative championship segment on the Italian GP review episode of Pit Talk podcast

[lewishamiltonstuff]

Some more

[eterniravioli]

the difference between saying “we’ll look back at it and talk about it, maybe not today” and publicly declaring “we can remain friends only if he apologises to me” feels very…… interesting

[tthesongofachilless]

If max were to win a race again with +20 seconds the media wouldn't care

but Lando winning by +20 seconds is a statement

[vroomvroomthings]

The commentator going "And it was a clear overtake this time." about Max's start is sickening. Dude, at least pretend you're somewhat professional.

[pickingupmymercedes]

There's some underlying tone to all these Toto's interviews that are making my head hot but I can't quite put my finger on it.

Because riddle me why in the past week we've had two very different moments where his own words are contradictory to what he is saying himself (and I'm not talking years back I'm talking things he's also saying in those same interviews)

'shelf life' - is that how you publicly talk about a so called friend? and even if the friend card was pr, how does that make him, and the brand he represents, look with him summing up losing their 6x champion to worries on his 'cognitive sharpness', when the said driver has the second best reaction time on the grid and was third in the last wdc, behind only the two cars that won 22/23 races in the season.

Lewis being 'in a ok place' after 21' (when people close to him have stated otherwise, Lewis himself has stated otherwise) and how Toto has heard those things being said and still stands by his perception (he could easily just say he might've thought Lewis was ok back then but learned latter on it wasn't the case)

Leaving Lewis to shoulder criticism on his craft by himself (even when he was their testing guine pig) but still agrees that he's almost happy Lewis comes and shoulders responsibility publicly because it takes the pressure off the team. The team with the 'no blame culture'. The team that can't get this regs right 3 years into when they were introduced (mind you, the only team, openly and proudly, stating they're using the last 6 races 'to test for the next season')

[norribobs]

One thing I’m gonna bring up about British media bias is this one little thing because they’ve really pushed the whole “Austria was all Max, Lando is an innocent bystander in all of it”

I give what they said after Silverstone crash actual FIA document for Austria.

Predominantly at fault.., not wholly. Well well well.,, Austria says predominantly and not wholly. 🤔🤔🤔

So by their own fucking standards, Lando was at least PARTLY AT FAULT.

I am so glad that the drivers today aren’t falling into the media’s leading questions to try villainise Max even more now because we’re on day 5 of this bullshit now.

Kudos to Lando and his answer that some of the stuff he said after the race was out of line, it’s not easy to say that you were wrong like that. Especially when the media is desperately willing you to say more stuff to generate more controversy.

And what a shutdown by Lewis when they fished for his comment. I loved how quiet and awkward the room suddenly got when the media realised that they weren’t gonna get the answers they wanted from them all 😂😂

[wafflesrisa]

One of them says “in the heat of the moment we were disappointed with each other”

The other says “the biggest problem was involving the media”

Here’s the thing. I believe 100% that there was never any serious beef and that the two talked it out and made up on the plane.

I should really let this go, but even now it seems unfair that the one who blew it up in media gets to say “it wasn’t that deep”, meanwhile the one whose home race and career was insulted is the one who points out the problem was talking to the media in the first place. A problem that has still gone unrecognised in Charles’ comments

I said this last week but I’ll say it again. It’s not fair:

The insults were public. But the apology was only private.

[slutforpringles]

TIL (thanks to the formuladank sub of all places) that Liberty Media is Lauren Boebert's THIRD LARGEST campaign donor this political cycle. If Helmut Marko, the wider F1 media and Sergio Perez apologists want to continue pretending that Liberty Media isn't a piece of shit organisation that wouldn't stoop as low as putting the profits of the Mexican GP and wider latin american F1 fanbase above Formula 1's sporting integrity, then that's up to them.

But personally I think the sort of organisation that would support such a vile, lowlife of a person (and politician), would abolutely be the type of organisation to prioritise safeguarding their own sky-high profits and ensuring they please their corrupt corporate sponsors. It has never been more obvious that Liberty Media intervened in Red Bull's driver decisions post-Belgium GP.

[lewishamiltonstuff]

Day 6 of sharing pics from my f1 reaction/cursed photos folder.