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joyful-soul-collector · 3 months ago
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Writing Femoral Anteversion
From someone who has it! I figured people who're writing Viktor (or anyone else you'd like to bestow this condition onto) might find this helpful.
For anyone who doesn't know, Viktor is theorized to have severe Femoral Anteversion in his right leg. Mine is not quite as severe as his is, but it's enough to cause problems. Currently my condition has me considering buying a cane at the ripe old age of 22, which is a few years younger than Viktor was in Season 1 Act 1.
Femoral Anteversion looks like this:
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This can happen in one or both legs. I have it in both, but it's far worse in my left leg. Viktor's seems to be mainly in his right leg. To be clear, this is NOT the same thing as his lung disease, though it likely exacerbates that disease a bit. The anteversion very likely worsens the problems with his back, but isn't necessarily the cause. Now, lets get into it!
What is Femoral Anteversion?
A wonderful post by @ihavea-natural-curiosity explained that all here, so I'll leave it to that person to explain what it is.
What is it like to have Femoral Anteversion?
Depending on the severity/treatments done for it, it can range from barely noticeable to a constant pain. If we put that on a scale, I'd say my right leg is at a 2-3, and my left is at around a 7-8. Viktor is likely at a 9-10 on his right leg. 8 on a good day.
General Pain Sites: mainly are in the knee, the hip, and lower back. Pain is worsened by long periods of standing, or long periods of sitting. Basically if its in one position for too long, it hurts. For me, it's difficult in school when I have to sit for a long time, and at work, where I stand a long time. Viktor may have more flexibility as he can stand or sit at his job whenever he wants, though if he's low energy that day, sitting for a long time may be his only option.
If standing for too long: (for me that's more than half and hour to an hour, for Viktor it may be more like 15 minutes), pain will start in the lower back, typically on the side of the bad leg, and with each step that spot on the lower back will pop. It's rather uncomfortable, doesn't relieve much pain the way popping a joint normally does. Pain from standing too long tends to be in the lower back, below the kneecap, and on the side of the hip, in the center between the front and back half of the body
If sitting for too long: typically the pain sites change slightly depending on the position, but often it's in the back of the hip, the lower back, and above the kneecap. Sometimes there may also be awkward positions sitting when trying to keep weight off that leg, which ends up hurting your upper back or shoulders too.
Painless: The only position I've found to be completely painless when in it for a long time is laying down on my back, with a pillow under the knees. Takes ALL the strain and weight off of those joints so it doesn't hurt. Only annoying bit is sometimes the REST of my body gets tired of being in that position anyways. I really only do this if it's hurting pretty bad that day because I can't really do anything while laying down like this. Even being on your phone is annoying cuz your arms get tired eventually.
Treating Femoral Anteversion
There's a bunch of treatments for it, the main ones are physical therapy, a brace, and a surgery. Typically none of these are needed because this usually happens in children, most of whom grow out of it. In the people who don't, physical therapy, a brace, and/or surgery may be needed.
The Brace
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They usually hug the thigh as the problem is in the femur, the thigh bone. The reason Viktor likely doesn't have one of the top two may be either:
1. Pain, the braces can be rather painful, and with anteversion as severe as his it may have been too much
and/or
2. It may have interfered with his back brace. The bottom brace doesn't work as well, but it is certainly far better than nothing.
To be clear, the most comfortable position for someone with femoral anteversion to be in is with their toes pointed inward. So the brace is not necessarily actually for comfort, it is for overall health. They're rather painful as it forces you're muscles, tendons, and literally bones, to be in a different position than they are naturally. Braces for adults would also have to be worn most hours of the day, and likely forever. In children the brace is taken off after they have grown enough that the anteversion is corrected, but in adults they are done growing, so it must be worn as much as possible.
Generally a brace is not actually the go-to form of treatment for adults, as physical therapy works better and is less uncomfortable for the patient.
Physical Therapy
Physical therapy for femoral anteversion will look like a lot of leg exercises to strengthen the outer leg muscles that will help correct the direction of the femur. It's very possible Viktor does these, or did them when he had the strength. When his disease got worse he may not have had the energy, but if he ever saw a PT in Piltover to help with his leg then they likely had him do exercises every day, possibly in the morning and at night with how severe his case was.
Stopping the exercises would likely mean the leg returns to its previous condition, as the muscles would no longer be maintained and would grow weaker again with time. In which case, the brace would help, and is possibly why Viktor has a brace in act 2 of season 1, but not in act 1.
Surgery
This surgery is called Femoral Osteotomy, and is a rather invasive one as it will change the direction of your whole femur, thus the direction of your whole leg. People often need walkers after this surgery, and can definitely come with complications. The reason Viktor didn't get this done is almost certainly because of his disease. A lung disease increases the risk of complications exponentially, especially with something as invasive as this surgery.
Disclaimer: I personally haven't actually had any of these treatments because I cannot afford them at the moment, though I'm hoping to go into physical therapy soon. The treatment order tends to go PT, brace, and surgery as a last resort.
Daily Life with Femoral Anteversion
Honestly, for most people with this, there's not much difference. They may not even feel any pain. My right leg technically also has femoral anteversion, but rarely hurts. But for people with a more intense case, like my left leg, or Viktor's right leg, there's a few things that can be different, so here's a list of some things that I do because of my femoral anteversion, that might be interesting to include in your writing:
Constantly correcting the direction of the foot. It becomes an unconscious correction after months of practicing, but occasionally it will still happen that you have to consciously move and correct it
Some days hurt worse than others! It can be just how you wake up that morning, or it can be due to activities done that day
Constantly cracking the bad knee. Especially when sitting or standing for too long. I crack my knee probably every few minutes or so when I'm standing for more than 5 minutes
Leaning elbows on a table, crossing the legs at the ankle, and leaning the torso side to side to get a stretch in the hip and potentially pop the lower back. Even deeper stretch by letting the elbows go below the table top and balancing by holding onto the table with just the fingertips.
When turning around, forgetting to move the bad leg too so it ends up turning almost completely backwards. This doesn't hurt, but as soon as I do it I often think "Aw fuck I'm not supposed to do that". Sometimes this makes you trip too.
Tripping over the bad foot when it gets in the way
Massaging or gently hitting the bad knee and hip to help the pain
Preemptively taking painkillers when anticipating a lot of walking or standing. May also do this for sitting, like on a plane or long train ride
It's hard to pop the hip but when it does happen it's both rather painful and instant pain relief. Very similar to popping a shoulder that's been annoying all day
Getting something warm to put on the knee and hip to help with pain. My favorite thing is the Warmies stuffed animals, the added weight feels good too
If without a cane/crutch, or somewhere to sit, then leaning heavily on tables, walls, and railings when in pain. Limping when you can't do that
Pushing the bad leg out to the side to get a good stretch in the hip (In the sexual sense, having the knees spread far apart for a long time would end up painful. Shorter sessions will be fine, but the best positions for something lasting a long time would be ones where the bad leg can be resting on something at a 90° angle or wider at both the hip and knee. A pillow under the knee works perfect. If on top, the person would likely end up leaning on the good leg, and leaning on the bed/a pillow/the other person with their arms to take the weight off the bad leg)
Constantly changing sitting position, generally every 5 minutes, give or take depending on how bad the pain is that day
Sleeping on the side with a pillow or blanket between the knees
Would secretly really really love for someone else to massage your leg because it's so difficult to get the right spots by yourself, especially in your hip.
Aaaaand that's about it! Feel free to ask any questions!
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wheelie-sick · 3 months ago
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while I'm in a rotational difference ramble spree let me share something for people with one:
You are not obligated to get surgery ‼️
doctors, the people around you, and even other people with a rotational difference will try to pressure you into it. you don't have to go through with it
if you're old enough to be on Tumblr that surgery is experimental. they do not fully understand the benefits for people who get the surgery late. it is often cosmetic and aims to make your legs look "normal" instead of functional. that surgery requires breaking your bones in several places and putting them back together. you have to relearn to walk. it takes a year to recover. people often still have chronic pain afterwards. it is a major surgery that they will try to sell you as something simple.
if you want that, if you feel it's worth it to you, then absolutely get the surgery but you don't have to.
make your decision for yourself, not other people. know there are other options like bracing and mobility aids that can give you just as fulfilling of a life.
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bionicleanteverse · 17 days ago
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African penguins, Mer-may traditional art series: Ochre starfish type Toa Anteverse, and Pelagornis.
(C) 2025 LEGO/Miramax/Disney/Legendary entertainment
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practicalgothicism · 1 year ago
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i’m posting this here too because it’s been 10 years and i’m still screaming abt pacrim
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giantmonsterpolls · 5 months ago
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Happy canon birthday/breachday to my favorite Anteversal kaiju! A painting to celebrate!
January 8th, 2025 is canonically the in-universe date for when Otachi and Leatherback breach.
I could talk about why I like Otachi but really it just boils down to “peak design + she’s silly :3”
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dutifullycolddeer · 3 months ago
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its my birthday
first word i said was jayvik
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toonsandtunes · 24 days ago
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The vibe I bring to the function.
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can-of-pringles · 6 months ago
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You ever want to say something about a character but you know it's out of your jurisdiction
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dissociacrip · 2 days ago
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pcp responded to message about my leg situation:
Can you get the team who originally took these images and PT document to send them to us so they can be included in an orthotics referral? Without them there will be miscommunication or denial of referral due to the complexity you appear to be correctly referencing.
a lil nervous because i didn't figure orthotics would be the response and maybe assessment by an orthopedist but i did have the orthotics thing highlighted on the PT notes
all of it was done within the hospital system & i let him know that but i guess i have phone calls to make and forms to fill out potentially
i also still don't know of by orthotics they mean stuff like AFOs or stuff like custom-fit shoe inserts, i hate how vague that term can be
"correctly referencing" was nice of him to put in there though, makes me feel less crazy despite this being so overlooked
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scribblesshipping · 25 days ago
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Sobbing thinking about Ian telling me he loves me despite my mobility problems… I can just picture him being playful about it with a little teasing when I trip over myself- though he’s always there to steady me. After all, I’m just a merman who just got their legs, right? He loves tenderly touching my thigh in public… giving it a light squeeze as a reminder that he loves me. No matter what. He knows I feel the same exact way.
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joyful-soul-collector · 2 months ago
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I genuinely love so much when fics/art depict Viktor getting leg massages from Jayce because as someone who also has femoral anteversion, that's ALL I WANT IN THE WORLD AUGHHHHHHHHHH
If someone could just massage my bad leg for like. Even just 15 minutes, that would be so nice :']
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wheelie-sick · 3 months ago
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single handedly increasing the number of people with a rotational difference diagnosis by being incredibly open about mine
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[ID: a fictional soldier turned to the camera shouting enthusiastically "I'm doing my part!"]
seriously though if you walk severely duck footed (feet pointed out) or pigeon toed (feet pointed in) and/or your kneecaps turn in or out when you stand with your feet straight and/or you can't walk with your legs and feet straight at the same time.... go to an orthopedist there is a strong chance you have a rotational difference
it's not always a rotational difference. other orthopedic conditions can mimic rotational differences. keep that in mind before self diagnosing.
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bionicleanteverse · 5 days ago
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Mer-may traditional art series #2 - Frilled Shark-Type Toa Anteverse - Janice Boynton. (C) 2025 LEGO/ Legendary entertainment/ Disney /Miramax
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unattainablesillygoose · 2 years ago
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I have ADHD, and when I was little, probably like 5 or 6, I told him I wanted to be a paleontologist when I grew up. He asked me if I knew what that was, and I explained it to him in as much detail as a 5 or 6 year old could. He was so stunned he just nodded and said, "Okay, then."
Ps. I don't remember any of this. My mom tells me this story from time to time when I think I'm dumb or stupid because it's her favorite and makes her laugh every time
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AUTISM RULES.
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Once again there is nothing like the euphoria of a pain flare finally relenting
Took two ibuprofen after six hours on my feet in a kitchen and the swelling in my back, knees, and ankles finally stopped and oh my god does it feel amazing. The popping of every joint as the pressure is released 🤤
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damsnackbar03 · 3 months ago
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Random, but prior to my femoral anteversion diagnosis, I used to stand with my left hip cocked (my left hip isn't as inverted as the other, so it's considered my dominant) because it didn't hurt as much as standing up straight, and people thought that I was trying to be sassy. While in reality, I just couldn't fucking walk.
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