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No. 6: “Do or die, you’ll never make me; Because the world will never take my heart.”
Recording | Made to Watch | “It should have been me.”
#Whumptober2023#No. 6#Made to watch#GIF#Stargate atlantis#John Sheppard#Joe Flanigan#Season 3 Ep 07#angry ronon
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do you ever think about how season 4 hits john repeatedly in his abandonment issues and he tries so hard to hang on and hang on and hang on but the hits keep coming.
elizabeth sacrifices herself to save them and john isn't allowed to look for her and he's angry but he'll respect it.
ronon gets ready to leave the team and john tries his best to respect that too. but it's hurting him.
rodney wants to sacrifice himself for his sister and john quietly doesn't let it happen.
teyla tells him she's pregnant (something that invariably changes a parent's life in some ways are predictable and some ways that aren't) and john gets nasty about it.
the hits keep coming and john's doing his best but there are Limits. and this happens all in the span of 10 episodes ???
(and let's not forget carson just a bit earlier and teyla getting kidnapped a few episodes later GOSH and the weight of last man holo rodney's faith in him)
idk i just think about it All The Time.
#stargate atlantis#john sheppard#sga lifeline#sga reunion#sga miller's crossing#sga be all my sins remember'd#sga spoils of war#my sga#drives me NUTS#bonkers#wild
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What's not to love about this episode?
This is one of those episodes I like to watch privately because it always makes me cry. (Not a public crier, which is funny because I cry very easily, at everything. If I'm happy, I cry. If I'm sad, I cry. If I'm angry, I cry.)
I love Rodney's story arc. He goes from doing lots of big things for the world, for the SGA, for Atlantis, all while trying to ascend. But, it's not until he starts doing things for HIS people specifically that he starts finding peace. He has to show love, not to the world, not even to Atlantis, but to Teyla, Ronon, Elizabeth, Radak, and in a way, Sheppard and Carson before he can ascend or save himself.
I love Elizabeth telling Sheppard he has to help Rodney and that Rodney has to let him because she knows Sheppard is who Rodney listens to, but they're both not good with emotional stuff, so she orders them.
But, what I love best about this episode is that what really fixes Rodney, gives him the space he needs to figure the problem out, and allows him to "release his burdens" is knowing that his people love him. I think he must carry some deep-seated fears that he's unlovable. I think Sheppard fears he's going to hurt his people or be unable to rescue them or not be there when they need him. Rodney fears that no one loves him. That's why he's kinda mean. If he keeps everyone at arm's length, he doesn't have to worry about whether they love him or not. He won't get hurt if he just assumes no one likes him. Then he gets to Atlantis, and he's needed, and he's saving people, and now it actually matters, and they actually matter. Rodney desperately wants to be loved even if he's unlovable. So, when Elizabeth says that they all love him, and they affirm that to him, he can 'ascend.'
And this is why Ronon's hug at the end is so important. They weren't just saying this because Rodney was dying, and they didn't just love him for what he could do for them. They love him. Rodney McKay. Ronon, the big lug, just gave him the most genuine hug. We've seen Ronon hug Sheppard, or toss him around, in the Return. We've seen him be gentle with Teyla, but this is the episode where we see his love for Rodney.
I do love this episode. Even if I have to wait for days to find a good time to watch it.
@sheppardsmckay this one is about your favorite. 🖤
#stargate atlantis#john sheppard#sga#rodney mckay#teyla emmagan#ronon dex#carson beckett#radek zelenka#s3 e14#Tao of Rodney
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Runner, Pt. 7
As he is staring down the barrel of Ronon's gun, Sheppard seems to get an acute case of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" and hence offers to help the stranger in exchange for their freedom. His reasoning is probably that having this guy out there fighting the wraith can only help them out in the long run. And also, he needs to get to Ford and to make sure McKay is safe, so he might as well try anything.
I will draw your attention to the fact that he has not placed his body between Teyla and the gun, even though he's seen Teyla taken down twice by it already. Granted, we don't know what Sheppard would do if Ronon had threatened Teyla's life to get him to play ball with him but while he seems very keen to disarm Ronon here, swaying on his feet as he's trying to think of what to do next, his instinct is not to protect Teyla with his own body. Not like we have seen him do for McKay many times in the past, nary with a conscious decision. As Ronon turns the gun on Teyla, Sheppard full on stops himself from getting in front of the gun. He is trying to keep the man's attention on himself, he is trying to talk them out of this, but it's very clear that between the barrel of the gun and Teyla is not a place he wants to be. He makes an active choice not to do that.
Ronon seems skeptical of Sheppard's offer, and given what his life must have been like for the past seven years, he probably has no reason to trust anyone easy. Sheppard sighs, and turns away from him as Ronon seems to turn down his offer, and this very much looks to be a manipulation tactic. As mentioned before, Sheppard appears to have had some training in psychological warfare, he is very practiced in manipulating hostiles in many different ways, and here he very much looks to be doing that. While Ronon is clearly a formidable warrior whose instincts have served him well for him to have survived for so long, he is still quite young and unequipped to deal with the kind of skills Sheppard has for incapacitating an enemy. Sheppard has been working him the whole time they have been his captives, and he's just trying another angle here:
Sheppard: You know, there's a chance we could help you. Dex: How? Sheppard: We know a pretty good doctor. Maybe he could take that tracking device out of you. Dex: You think I haven't tried? Sheppard: Suit yourself.
Sure, it could be that Sheppard is merely weary, that he's actually feeling so morose that he just doesn't care anymore. Doesn't care what happens to this man, to Teyla, or to himself. It's possible. But there definitely seems to be a performative quality to his sigh. The way he looks away, presses his head down and looks deflated. Sheppard is not going to turn his eyes away from a gun pointed at him unless he had a good reason for it. He is making a performative display of emotion to provoke a complementary emotion in the target, which is a very effective manipulation technique especially when one is in a weaker power position, as he is here. He's not angry, he's disappointed. And it seems to work, too.
Although not trusting him yet by any means, Ronon is immediately intrigued:
Dex: And why would you do that? Sheppard: Because I'm a nice guy. Look, I told you. You hate the wraith, we hate the wraith. It's something we all have in common. We just want our friend back. Dex: You get this tracking device out of me, I'll get your friend back for you. Sheppard: OK, good. It's a deal.
Another reference to friends is made. But what's really concerning is Sheppard's quip about being a nice guy. He says this dripping with sarcasm. He clearly does not believe it about himself for one moment. He even shakes his head no as he says it, which just confirms that he does not believe what he says (it's a common tell when people are lying that their heads either nod or shake to the opposite effect of their words). He says "I'm a nice guy" like he's basically saying "fuck you, that's why".
His actual reasons are to get free, get Ford, and let this guy loose on the wraith. He knows that he's not a nice guy. If he was a nice guy, Ford never would have run out on him. If he was a nice guy, McKay would want to be with him. If he was a nice guy, he could actually be McKay's friend and not be such a dick toward him just because his own heart is aching. He's trying so hard to do the right thing and it always seems to come out wrong. So maybe he can do something for this guy. Maybe he can do something right by someone, for a change.
Leaving Teyla behind, Sheppard takes off at a run to the jumper. And note that yet again, he does not offer to stay himself and let Teyla go back to the jumper to relay the message to Atlantis. He full on leaves a defenseless woman alone in the woods with a man he knows very little about, and what little he knows tells him he's a very dangerous man. And yes, he sees Teyla as a warrior first. But it's obvious here that he has trouble seeing her as a woman at all.
And while Ronon probably hasn't had sex for a very long time, he never seems interested in Teyla that way. This, however, doesn't change the fact that this could have been a very bad idea, a very bad call from Sheppard. It's the ever-enduring spark of humanity in Ronan that saved the day (in more ways than one) here, not the exceptional military strategy employed by Sheppard. Like, he doesn't even offer to stay in her stead. It doesn't even occur to him that he could do that. He has very literally been willing to give up his own life several times to keep McKay safe but seems to display none of that instinct here. But let's say it's because he has such respect for Teyla as a warrior and because McKay is such an asset for them.
Once Sheppard is back at the jumper, he discovers that Lorne has lost McKay in the woods. His reaction is interesting. But first note that his first question, the first thing that interests him as he makes it back, is about McKay. He says "Where's Lorne?" to one of Lorne's men because that's who they know, that's who they are in contact with, it's Lorne that is the context for these men. But his interest in Lorne's whereabouts is about McKay, because he had entrusted McKay to him and the last information he has, McKay was with Lorne. He probably expected to find McKay in the same place he would find Lorne.
That's his first priority, finding McKay. And you can tell that this is the case by the fact that as he actually sees Lorne, Sheppard is barely paying attention to him. His "What happened to you?" sounds distracted, not like he has actual concern for Lorne's well-being. And as he passes Lorne, he turns to look at the soldier that was seated next to him, making mental note of the fact that it is not McKay. But before he has time to ask about the thing that he actually cares about, Lorne volunteers the information.
If we saw McKay basically not react to them losing contact with Sheppard earlier, Sheppard now responds to Lorne's report about having lost McKay with only an offhand "Great!" Only, it's not a case of dissociation with him, it's just the amount of feeling that he's willing to show to his men. Sheppard has the exact same response to the arrival of wraith darts through the gate later on. That's the same amount of fucked he thinks he is having apparently lost McKay. But the thing is, we don't actually get to see the full extent of his reaction to this. He runs into the jumper and immediately starts dialing the gate to contact Atlantis, and we then cut away.
However, it seems as though Sheppard's level of urgency rises between him asking Lorne what was the matter with him and Lorne mentioning McKay being missing. He's punching up the gate symbols like there was a fire under him, all of a sudden. Sure, he came to the jumper at a run but given that he had left Teyla alone with this stranger, it doesn't seem like his original plan to get Beckett to come to the planet to help them with the guy's tracker was that time sensitive. Sure, they need to get a move on but there's no desperation. Now, McKay having gone missing? That is time sensitive. Every second he doesn't know where that man is is a second too many.
So, how come we don't see Sheppard react to McKay having gone missing? We don't get to hear Sheppard's call to Atlantis and the next time we see him, he's busy bringing Beckett back to Ronan's cave. So, he doesn't care that much, right? Only, Weir mentions McKay to Beckett as he's preparing to leave for his house-call on the alien planet meaning that Sheppard obviously had told her about it and very likely had extracted all the details about it from Lorne during the call, as it seems like Weir knows precisely what had happened. So, it tells us Sheppard was at least interested. But the thing is, later Ford takes out a pair of marines searching the forest for something which means that before Sheppard had left the jumper with Beckett, he had ordered the others to look for McKay.
The reason he did not go himself was because as (presumably, given how he managed to clip Acastus Kolya while he was holding Weir as hostage) the best sharp shooter of the lot, it was up to him to keep the expedition's chief medical officer and McKay's best friend alive through the ordeal. He personally had to go back to the cave. But everyone else that was not guarding the gate was on McKay duty. It's never explicitly mentioned and yet it's very obvious that's what is going on with the marines in the woods. They're even cautious as McKay jumps up from the bushes, clearly expecting some terrible thing to be at his heels.
But despite the fact that a whole lot of people seem to be worried about McKay, he's handling himself pretty well given how unhinged Ford seems to be. Their interaction also gives us insight into just how McKay is doing in his life, all things considered. For one, he seems to be in much better physical condition than Lorne had believed:
Ford: Why are you stopping? McKay: Because I am tired, and you have no idea where you're going. Ford: How do you know? McKay: We've been walking around in circles for hours!
Not only have they been wading through difficult terrain for hours, McKay has been doing all of it in the rubber suit, with nothing to drink the whole time. Anyone would be exhausted from this. He's also hypoglycemic and hasn't had anything to eat in hours, either. McKay seems to have a lot of stamina. But it looks like that's not even the reason why he stopped here. He clearly loses his footing and, embarrassed by this, attempts to cover for it by taking a pose. It's actually pretty similar to Sheppard's first trek through the woods with Teyla in Rising (S0102), where Sheppard loses his footing and tries to be real smooth about his landing. McKay tells Ford he's tired to cover up for losing his balance not because that was the reason.
And speaking of things these two do in a similar way, as couples often adopt mannerisms from the other, McKay rotates his hand quickly as the mentions the word "circle" here, a visual representation of the shape. Sheppard did the same thing using his head (as his hands were tied) when he mentioned "circle" to Ronon earlier.
Furthermore, this may be another case of distorted perception of time for McKay. He tells Ford he feels like they've been walking around for hours, but given that they are now expecting the wraith to arrive on the planet any minute and Sheppard does seem to be trying to speed things along, this is likely an exaggeration. And again time feels longer to him, it seems to him like his suffering is prolonged, a common sign of dissociation.
Now, while Ford seems to be projecting hardcore as he unloads on McKay here, no longer having his CO as a reason to keep his thoughts regarding McKay to himself, he does seem to manage to strike a few nerves with McKay. McKay's voice breaks as he responds to Ford's tirade because his accusation is true, as far as McKay is concerned. For a man that hasn't had that many friends in his life, he sure has let them down a lot lately:
Ford: So that's it -- you just give up, is that it? That's what you do, isn't it -- you give up on your friends when they need you most! McKay: No-one's given up on you, Ford! We wanna help you! Ford: I'm talking about Major Sheppard and Teyla. McKay: Lieutenant Colonel Sheppard.
Furthermore, McKay's bitterness for Sheppard's promotion seems to come out full force here. Ford interprets McKay's words as him making fun of him for having forgotten Sheppard's new title where that probably wasn't even close to what McKay intended with his tone.
McKay seems to spit out the title with thinly veiled disdain either toward Sheppard being promoted or toward the US military in general. He himself had trouble remembering the new title a whole month later (perhaps indicative of some mental resistance toward the information on his part), so Ford not being able to remember it here is not surprising in the least, nor is it a target for mockery for McKay. But what we can see here clearly is that McKay has a problem with Sheppard's promotion, and this problem is definitely not that he doesn't think Sheppard deserved it. His attitude must have some other motivation. Like the fact that he thinks the promotion is one of the obstacles now permanently between the two of them, stopping them from getting to each other.
But because Ford is expecting McKay to make fun of him, he takes offense at this. He's expecting McKay to make fun of him because his interpretation of their past team dynamic is that McKay and Sheppard made fun of him ("Oh, so it's OK when you guys do it"), they hazed the young soldier. And again, he continues projecting:
Ford: Alright -- Lieutenant Colonel. So Ford's lost it, Ford's all crazy, Ford can't even remember a simple little thing. McKay: Hey, I never said that! Although the fact that you keep referring to yourself in the third person does indicate clinical dissociation.
But the ugly truth of the matter is that Ford was barely on McKay's radar, for him he was a blunt instrument. He regarded Ford in a way that he hates to be treated himself. And here, Ford is holding up a mirror to his face, forcing him to take a look at himself. If McKay wasn't dissociating so hard, all of this might actually hurt. But although Ford seems to be lashing out due to his own issues, he's digging up dirt from his own subconscious to fling at McKay, he does manage to say things that, while not necessarily factually true, McKay believes to be true about himself at the end of the day. What Ford says to him just reinforces what McKay already thinks about himself, and it's notable that he has no arguments against it.
Ford: You don't even know what a friend is, do you, McKay? All you care about is yourself. McKay: Will you relax?! Ford: You relax! You're pathetic. You were always making fun of me. You wanna play a game? Pick on Ford. I could shoot you and leave you here to die. McKay: Shoot me? When did this escalate to physical violence?
McKay is selfish, he's aware of that. He needed time to sort through his feelings. He needed Sheppard t be honest with him. He needed Sheppard to let him in. He needed Sheppard to trust him. He needed Sheppard to consider him. He needed Sheppard to be there for him. He needed Sheppard to want him, to love him, to choose him. He needed, he needed, he needed. And he had never really even stopped to consider what Sheppard might need. He really was a bad friend, and a worse lover. He did only care about himself. No one had ever accused him of caring too much about other people. Most people were abstractions to him and the few people he did consider his friends, he treated poorly. But Ford didn't have to throw all of that to his face like that.
The thing to note here is that McKay seems not at all intimidated by Ford. And this seems to have nothing to do with him believing Ford is still the same old Ford who would not hurt him, or that he just doesn't realize how the wraith enzyme must be affecting his mind (he did see Ford almost choke the life out of his best friend right in front of him, after all; he knows Ford is far from alright), or that he's displaying any special brand of bravery here. It's much more concerning than that. Like Sheppard earlier, McKay seems not to care what happens to him. McKay is being held together by such a thin thread that he seems to be very close to his breaking point, and all of the things he's been keeping inside for the past months suddenly come tumbling out of him:
McKay: Alright, you wanna shoot me, shoot me! Fine! I don't care. It'll just save me suffering one of the many horribly painful deaths I have in line from having been exposed to this much radiation! And, quite frankly, it'll prove just how far gone you are!
He goes off on Ford. And his diatribe has nothing whatsoever to do with Ford, he simply can't take any more suffering, he has reached his limit. While he adds the words "from having been exposed to this much radiation" as though he was talking about just now, was talking about just the day he's had, it's much more than that. We know from The Siege (S02E01) that he has been thinking about death, all the terrible ways to die, for a while now ("Slow death, quick death, painful death, cold, lonely death..."). McKay is in so much anguish over what transpired in the past few months that some part of him thinks it would be a relief if someone ended him, ended his suffering.
McKay keeps this mostly under wraps, losing himself in his work. Mostly he seems functional, his old normal self, focused on doing things. But this is what he's hiding inside the whole time. This is what he tries to protect Sheppard from by not letting the man close to him. This has been eating him up inside ever since he watched Peter Grodin give up his life for nothing, ever since he watched that dot that was Sheppard's jumper move inevitably toward the hive on the screen in the control platform. He loves Sheppard too much to let him to be hurt by this venom.
But still, in his heart of hearts, McKay does not want to die. It's not over for him, either.
Having no more words to say, Ford shoots up the woods around McKay, and this makes him suddenly snap out of the dark place he was at. McKay even empathizes with Ford as he stops to really listen what the man is telling him. He can relate to feeling all alone. He can relate to someone not trusting him. Even though he does not think so himself, McKay does care about people. He doesn't always understand them, they frequently get in his way and irritate him because he's quicker than most, but he cares a lot. He cares so much that he has been ready to give up his own life on several occasions so that others might have the fighting chance to live. And he cares about Ford enough to want to bring him back home:
Ford: I'm sorry. Look, you don't know what it's like, almost dying like I did, having your friends turn on you, no-one trusts you. I'm out here all alone. McKay: You don't have to be alone, Ford. Look, this drug is messing with your head. Come back to the jumper with me -- we'll go back to Atlantis, and Doctor Beckett may even be able to figure out a way for you to keep all your new super-powers, huh? Ford: You think? McKay: Sure, why not?
Again his voice breaks when he tells Ford that he doesn't have to be alone. He wishes so much that someone would say these words to him. That he didn't have to be alone. The loneliness he felt now, all the time, was unbearable because for a moment, he hadn't been alone. He hadn't been lonely. He had loved someone and he had been loved. Who ever said that it was better to have loved and lost than never having loved at all had certainly not been marooned in another galaxy having to watch the love of their life without being able to get to them. That was being alone.
For a moment it seems like McKay, with his genuine plea at Ford, is able to reach him but then the madness overtakes him again. Ford seems to be obsessing over finding Sheppard, and McKay can relate to that too. As Ford takes off, he actually lets McKay go free here. McKay has the chance to just walk away, go back to the jumper, go back to see if Lorne is alright. Get some help, find out what's going on.
Ford: First we've gotta save Colonel Sheppard and Teyla. McKay: No, no, wait. Ford: No! That'll prove that I'm OK. You go back to the jumper, I'll meet you there.
But of course, this is not an option for McKay. If there's even a slim chance that Ford is right, that Sheppard is in trouble and Ford knows how to find him, he has to go with him. Come hell or high water, Sheppard is the most important thing in his life, and that's just the main text of it all.
Continued in Pt. 8
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John Sheppard Whump - SG: Atlantis
1x01 Rising - Almost shot out of the sky, angry, scared/confused 1x02 Hide and Seek - Tazed, choked 1x04 38 Minutes - (Wraith bug attached to him) knocked unconscious/jolted, intense pain from multiple attempts to remove it, heart stops 1x08 Underground - Kidnapped by Chief O'brien (🤓) 1x10 The Storm - Alone, worries for friends 1x12 Defiant One - Stuck with McKay + nerd, shot, runs into forcefield (knocked down forcefully) 1x13 Hot Zone - Sacrifices self, caught in explosion 1x14 Sanctuary - Held psychologically captive, angry 1x19 The Siege pt. 2 - Shocked unconscious, almost killed by wraith, passes out, sacrificing himself ---------------------------------------------
2x01 The Siege - Fails to save a friend, guilted 2x02 the intruder - Piloting ship taken over by wraith virus, guilt/depressed about Ford 2x03 Runner - Shot/captured by Ronon, shot in the hand, increased guilt about Ford 2x05 Condemned - Jumper shot down, captured, hurts his knee (by being dumb) 2x08 Conversion - Infected with wraith retro-virus, slowly turns into a bug, shot by Ronon 2x09 Aurora - "Captured," shocked by force field multiple times 2x10 The Lost Boys - Kidnapped/stunned unconscious, threatened by the Lost Boys, poisoned, knocked down by an aggressive-drugged Ronon, guilted, Kidnapped/stunned unconscious AGAIN, weak/sore, taken by the Wraith and painfully 'willed'/torture 2x11 The Hive - Stunned unconscious, painfully willed by the queen, guilted 2x12 Epiphany - Stuck in a place where time moves faster/ages quicker/alone (6 months), evolves into bearded John, seriously injured by monster (unconscious + seriously bleeding) multiple times 2x16 Long Goodbye - Possessed by a bitter old man, shot in the shoulder, shocked unconscious and captured, painful convulsions, weak 2x17 Coup D'etat - Genii trap, collapses, captured/tied up ---------------------------------------------
3x01 No Mans Land - Captured, tired 3x03 Irresistible - The only one who isn't in love with Lucius, shot unconscious (sleeping so peacefully wtf), imprisoned 3x04 Sateda - Tranquillized unconscious, captured (+ nice talk with Tayla :)) 3x05 Progeny - Fingers in the brain torture 3x06 Real World - Angst for Weir 3x07 Common Ground - Captured by Kolya, life sucked out of him, exhausted 3x09 Phantoms - Trapped on a planet, Afghanistan PTSD, guilt about the death of another friend, apologizes a million times for literally shooting everybody 3x12 Echoes - Ears bleeding, tortured/hospitalized with equally deaf McKay 3x13 Irresponsible - Western duel against Kolya (gigachad) 3x16 Ark - Almost sucked out into space, collapses from lack O2, sacrifices himself, crashes the ship, exhausted 3x17 Sunday - Beat up by Ronon during training 3x18 Submersion - Freaked out, painfully controlled/willed by wraith lady, exhausted/sore 3x19 Vengeance - Gets in a banter fight with Michael face to face, gets smacked around by a huge bug ---------------------------------------------
4x01 Adrift pt.2 - Emotional about Weir 4x04 Doppleganger - Infected and knocked down by crystal, exhausted, in everybody's nightmares (effects relationships), really beaten up/thrown by himself, dangerously high heart rate 4x05 Travelers - Captured, beaten, threatened, shocked unconscious 4x06 Tabula Rasa - Infected, loss of memory/clueless, shocked unconscious & tied up, exhausted 4x10 This Mortal Coil - Bleeding, Ronon caused injury, captured, acts dead 4x11 Be All My Sins Remember'd - Shocked unconscious, captured 4x12 Spoils of War - Shocked unconscious, painfully willed by Wraith queen (another nice talk with Teyla) 4x15 Outcast - Dad died, emotional, choked unconscious, weak 4x20 The Last Man - Trapped in the future, walking through a rough sandstorm, collapse, weak, trapped in a building collapse ---------------------------------------------
5x01 Search and Rescue - Trapped under rubble, chunk of concrete stabbed in the abdomen, denies surgery, in pain the whole episode 5x02 Seed - Injected with experimental drug with high risk, convulsing, in serious pain, flatlines, crashes into the city, stabbed in the stomach by tentacles 5x03 Broken Ties - Punched unconscious by Ronon, captured, 5x05 Ghost in the Machine - Thrown across the room and wall, weak 5x06 The Shrine - Emotional about McKay 5x08 The Queen - Captured 5x10 First Contact - Stargate explosion 5x11 The Lost Tribe - Caught in Stargate explosion, weak, glass shards in the back 5x13 Inquisition - Knocked out 5x14 The Prodigal - Hanging off a building, badly beaten up by Michael 5x15 Remnants - Abducted, knocked unconscious, beaten, arm chopped off 5x19 Vegas - Dies (Alternate reality)
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Stargate Atlantis #003 Title: That Goddamn Gene Pairing/Characters: (Gen or pairing of author's choice within them) John Sheppard, Rodney McKay, Teyla Emmagan, Ronon Dex Rating: General | G Warnings/Tags: Rodney, Teyla and Ronon will be retrained by chains. John is mind-whammied by Ancient tech. Summary: The setting is a huge dark hall with columns, off-world. In the foreground, John Sheppard, wearing a deep red robe, is holding a glowing Ancient globe. He's looking up and blue light shines from his eyes, and there's a column of blue light coming down from above onto him and the artifact. Behind, in the dark hall, are numerous people or priests all on their knees, bowing down. In front of them stand John's team, Rodney, Teyla, and Ronon, immobilised (will be by chains), watching helplessly, distressed or angry. Thumbnail:
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8: "in secrecy" oooooooh this was FUN
There are days that Rodney doesn’t mind having to keep things between them a secret. He’s, despite evidence to the contrary, actually somewhat of a private person, and he doesn’t feel like everyone in the city needs to know he and Sheppard are together. He knows it would fuel gossip among the personnel, knows his scientists would never let it go, and, well, Ronon and Teyla know, and usually that’s enough.
Today is not one of those days, though. Today is a day that Rodney wants to tear down the American military establishment, wants to scream the truth in everyone’s smug fucking faces, to tongue-kiss John in the goddamn gate room. It’s petty, sure, but Rodney’s never claimed not to be a petty person. Watching John get dragged off by the latest beautiful alien princess, seeing the congratulating and back-slapping among the Marines when he’d come back looking rumpled—and Rodney trusts John with his life, of fucking course he trusts him not to cheat, so it’s not that he’s worried, or jealous, he just…wants, to be able to be more than something shared in the quiet dark, to have the same respect for his relationship that anyone else would be afforded.
He could get angry at John about it, has gotten angry at John about in the past, has refused to speak to him for days until they both broke, making eye contact across the mess and just laughing, stupid and light with it, edges softened. If he wanted to rant about for a while, John would listen to that, too, would let Rodney pace and shout and wave his hands until he got tired.
Right now, though, all he wants is to be alone with John, to feel him under his hands, to confirm, confirm, confirm. He presses John back against the door, tilts his head up and noses across the line of John’s jaw.
“She didn’t touch you?” Rodney asks, because he needs to know whether he has to put John in the shower before they get any further with this.
“No,” John says, shakes his head. He lifts his hands and clutches at Rodney’s shoulders, tight and desperate like he needs this too. “Only you.”
“That’s right,” Rodney murmurs, kissing John’s chin, his cheekbones, before landing on his mouth. John opens for him with a quiet little sound, muffled against Rodney’s lips, and, well—John like this, soft and beautiful and giving himself up so perfectly, so easily: that’s something Rodney’s glad to keep to himself.
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Racism in the sga fandom... let's talk about it
I came to fanfiction specifically for John Sheppard/Ronon Dex. Unfortunately, the majority of fics in that ship are racist, albeit subtly so. That got to me as a white person who cares about racism, but let's be clear, subjecting people of colour to continual microaggressions is *proven* to be psycholgically harmful - many experts would say traumatising over time.
This is still true if the microaggressions are delivered through the medium of fanfiction. Much as we love the fairy story "fiction can't hurt" it's simply not true. Microaggressions are microaggressions, racism is racism.
It also doesn't matter that none of the writers intended harm. You can accidentally cause a fire and it still burns as much.
So when we allow racism to happen and don't challenge it, we're choosing to sit by while people are harmed. It's that simple.
When we say words cannot harm I think we know what a fairy story that is.
Sga fandom - find something to say about Ronon other than his looks and physicality and cock size. Don't treat him like a sex object or a weapon or someone less than human, comparing him to an animal or even Chewbacca. If you're a white woman, don't do to him what men do to women, thinking turn about is fair play and ignoring the very complicated power relations between white women and men of colour. It isn't turning the tables on power if you're leaning into a structure of oppression you benefit from. Go find a nice white man to objectify. I hear John Sheppard's available. Don't have Teyla and Ronon be there solely to dispense wisdom to the white characters (something I know I've been guilty of). Don't expect them to be dignified and stoic and never get angry. Don't have them forgiving the heinous crimes committed in the show towards Pegasuns and don't excuse those crimes under the heading "anyone would do that" because no, imperialism and colonialism is not the only response from every culture on Earth. Many could have and did not. Think about what it means if you ship them in a passive or submissive role. Think about what it means to not allow them to have an inner world and complex emotional responses. Think about what it means when they are purely there to facilitate the narrative arc of white people.
Obviously you'd have to be pretty olivious not to see the ways in which the source material is also racist - we have to face the fact our fave is problematic and deal with this.
Talking about racism is not harmful. Don't buy into the far right rhetoric that such conversations are dangerous. Let's talk about this.
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more hug headcanons:
- Chuck: LOVES hugs and would love to give them to more people, but is shy about it 🥺 (dude, next time you see a team stumbling back through the Gate all bruised and beaten up, wait till Carson gives the all clear and then get in there. They need it)
- Radek: feeling overwhelmed/sad/angry? Go find him. A short, effective hug and all the vodka you need.
- Laura Cadman will just glomp you. And you will like it.
chuck 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺😭😭😭😭😭😭 GIVE THAT BOY A HUG!!!!!!!!! ronon should take him on a hugging crusade around the city
"tbh i think a short hug and a few shots of radeks vodka would cure 98% of my problems" -everyone on atlantis at some point or another probably
yes laura will just come up to people and Latch On for an indefinite amount of time and the easiest way through it is to just accept it (which is very easy to do most of the time)
#HUG#HEADCANONS#!!!!!!!!!!!!#so good!!!!!!#honestly the only sga meta that matters let's be honest here#these are the important conversations people#chuck the technician#radek zelenka#laura cadman#asks#sga#stargate atlantis
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Rodney Hears A Rumour
read it on the AO3 at https://ift.tt/z4IPwn2
by sga_owns_my_soul
John’s hand shook as he swiped the chime. He was at his wits end and didn’t know what else to do. Everything had gone wrong so fast, and he didn’t even know why. The door whooshed open after a second, and he was met with an angry glare.
Words: 2127, Chapters: 1/1, Language: English
Fandoms: Stargate Atlantis
Rating: Not Rated
Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply
Categories: M/M
Characters: John Sheppard, Rodney McKay, Ronon Dex, Teyla Emmagan, Evan Lorne, Original Character
Relationships: Rodney McKay/John Sheppard
Additional Tags: Misunderstandings, Temporary Break Up, Happy Ending, atlantis takes rodney's side
read it on the AO3 at https://ift.tt/z4IPwn2
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Finally, someone letting me be nosy! 001 | send me a ship and I will tell you: For McLorne, our beloved
• when I started shipping it if I did:
So, I was in the middle of reading through nagi_blue's entire McShep SGA stories and one of them was John/Rodney/Evan and I read that, and I lvoed that dynamic and I loved their Evan and so i read through their traveling man series which has Evan Lorne as a focus and fell in love with Evan/Rodney. Especially because of this story.
(and if u wanna break ur heart in an amazing way how do you like your blueeyed boy by them is amazing, but beware of the warnings.
• my thoughts:
The thing I love about McLorne is that Evan is a lot more emotionally aware than pretty much 90% of the characters in the show, and he's shown to be very level headed, competent and can handle a lot of weird shit thrown at him and he doesn't break. And so I think he works well with Rodney because of it, because he's so level headed and doesn't lose his temper he can deal with Hurricane Rodney, and then also voice his feelings on the matter. he also strikes me as the kinda man who'd be like "i appreciate that you're angry, but you made me feel XYZ and I didn't like it and I'd like to talk about it" and make Rodney deal with it instead of just bottling it up inside or letting Rodney stubborn his way thru everything.
• What makes me happy about them:
They cute as hell, and I love the general consensus in fandom that Evan is Hyper Competent which is something Rodney can appreciate it.
• What makes me sad about them:
NOT ENOUGH FICS. Im gonna fix this damnnit. • things done in fanfic that annoys me:
TBH, I haven't seen anything major specific to the two of them? Theres some stuff I don't like, but that's just a general squick overall regardless of pairings.
• things I look for in fanfic:
Communications! Evan being more than just John's XO. Rodney finally noticing him! Rodney being like, you're cute, you're competent and you have a cock. The three c's needed for me to love you.
• Who I’d be comfortable them ending up with, if not each other:
This question was twice, but for Rodney. OT4 or McShep, lbr. For Evan, I exist on the Teyla/Lorne hill, but also Evan/Radek is cute. I'm a fan of Evan/Ronon bc smol/tall is very evident there and its cute. •
My happily ever after for them:
John semi retires and sticks to things he's good at which lets Evan run Atlantis with Woolsey + Coalition and an iron fist so it becomes something amazing and epic and something people want to visit and be aligned with, and Rodney just stays at home and does science without needing to run for his life, and they adopt 3 cats that they took forever to name bc Rodney wanted science names and Evan wanted artists names and so they went with the ninja turtles instead, bc its both nerdy and artists. And then they adopted a 4th cat so they could get the entirety of ninja turtles.
• who is the big spoon/little spoon:
They switch, bc sometimes they both need a hug but most of the time i imagine they both sleep in weird positions and so half the time evan will be starfished with one leg off the bed and Rodney will be using his other leg for a pillow bc he lay back and couldn't be bothered moving. He doesn't even complain about his back
• what is their favorite non-sexual activity:
Sit on the balcony, drink tea/coffee and gossip bc Evan knows all the gossip and he needs to talk about it other wise it'll eat him upinside and Rodney loves listening to Evan talk and is good at secrets.
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🤡 What's a line, scene, or exchange you've written that made you laugh?
HMMM i'm not sure i think i'm a particularly funny writer, or maybe that humor just isn't something i spend a lot of time on while writing, so it's hard to remember for me. but BUT i do like to use repetition in ways that make me laugh. this exchange from my condemned it could've started like this comes to mind:
Sheppard glares at each of them, his gaze landing hot and angry on Rodney. The rational part of Rodney’s mind knows it’s a bad idea, but Rodney says it anyway. “I love you, you asshole.”
That stops everyone. They’re all staring at him now. It’s the kind of moment that Rodney used to dread, still dreads, somewhere deep in his subconscious, but in the moment, it’s not embarrassing at all. He’s pissed, anger pumping hot under his skin and he glares down his nose at Sheppard—who, for his part, looks suitably stunned.
“What?” Sheppard asks after a moment of utter silence. Good. He deserves the shock.
“He said he loves you, you asshole,” Ronon repeats, and Rodney thinks that might be the start of a smirk on his face, but he can’t be certain, not from this angle.
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It's slightly challenging to write one's thoughts about an episode that one kept falling asleep in. I drifted in and out, in and out.
The thing that finally clicked for me is Ronon. You know the first time through you're just along for the ride. The second time through, I was a bit befuddled by Ronon. He's aggressively angry. Okay, that's nothing really new, but he's aggressively angry at Sheppard. That's unusual. He's usually backing Sheppard all the way. Teyla and Rodney tend to serve more as the balance to Sheppard's own aggression. But in this episode, Ronon gets loud...for Ronon.
So, my click was that Ronon is deeply hurt by the massacre of the Taranin people. They risked everything to save these people and Michael just pops up and kills them. It would be bad enough to find the people you almost died saving murdered, but think about how angry you'd be if they were murdered by your failed science experiment. And think about if you had spoken out against it.
You don't really tell your friends, I told you so, because they're your friends and you have their back, but you are angry that the experiment went so wrong as to kill a whole group of people off.
Michael is such a fascinating character because he's a mirror reflecting back their mistake, their desperate choice, their wrong choice. I think they know they had to try to solve the Wraith problem, but they made a bad choice and now that choice is killing the very people they were trying to protect. Actions, regardless of intentions, have consequences and they're paying the price, which is always hard.
So, yeah, I get Ronon's anger and aggression in this episode now.
Also, I love Sheppard's exchange with Michael. I love that Sheppard's hand is so steady when he tells Michael that he has no problem killing him and that you can see Michael knows that's not an empty threat.
I love that they wrote a story where everything kinda went wrong with Michael. It's real. Things don't always work out. People speak past each other. People don't listen. People make assumptions. People forget to think about others. It's real.
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Day 5: "That's gonna scar"
Once again, it was the Tuesday that was Sheppard's undoing. Although this time it wasn't because Rodney touched something he wasn't supposed to, it wasn't angry natives or people after John's genes. It was a simple thunder storm that was his undoing. Being that they were in Pegasus, If John learned nothing it was that things were never simple.
John and Ronon were sent to check out the planet. There was very little known in the database about MKT-008 other than it was uninhabited. Elizabeth had sent them on a simple 'check it out' milk run of a mission, that was why there was only John and Ronon. She was no idiot, she knew that those two were kind of seeing each other, at the very least they were testing the waters. So she figured that they could use the time alone with prying eyes.
When the thunder itself had started, John really hadn't thought very much of it. He had been om plenty of planets where there was thunder that never amounted to anything. This wasn't one of those times. He noticed Ronon was eyeing the sky suspiciously. “What is it big guy?”
Ronon spoke without removing his eyes from the sky. “I was on a planet like this once. There's a reason why there are no people and no animals. Listen closely Sheppard. What do you hear?”
John closed his eyes and listened, just to realize that his companion was right. There was absolutely no noise. Only the wind through the trees and the rumble of thunder that sounded as though it was getting closer. “I think we should try to find a cave. Wait out the storm.” John hated waited in caves, they were always damp and somehow always managed to remind him of all the times he has found himself in primitive jail cells. But they really didn't have a choice.
“I thought that saw one back that way.” Ronon hooked his thumb in the direction they had just came from. John huffed, they were going to have to go backwards. Just great. By the time they get to the cave the thunder is so loud they don't even bother trying to talk to each other. The bright bolts of lightening in the sky make Sheppard nervous, he was so busy watching the bolts that he didn't see the tree root that he tripped over. He yelled loud enough that Ronon heard it over the thunder.
Ronon had been leading the way, so when he turned around when Sheppard yelled, it was just in time to see Sheppard slide down the ravine and over the edge of the cliff. Ronon was quick to act, he ran toward Sheppard and was just in time to grab his hand. He pulled him up by the wrist, knowing that the rain would be making their hands slippery. He got Sheppard up, who was bleeding quite badly from a gash in his forehead. Ronon picked him up and carried him the rest of the way, he knew that John would be disorientated and that would slow them down.
Once in the cave, Ronon started a small fire, thankful for the opening of the cave and the over hang that protected them from the worst of the wind and rain. After the fire was started, he went through John's vest and found the small first aid kit. He cleaned up John's face. He ended having to use the surgical glue and butterfly bandage to ensure that the bleeding had stopped. After he gave John two of the Ibuprofen, he sat back and eyed him wearily.
“I don't know how you did it but I cleaned as best as I could. I still think it's gonna scar.”
John uttered a humourless laugh. “It can join all the others.” He leaned back against the cave wall, enjoying the heat from the fire. He knew that he couldn't fall asleep, they had no idea if he had a concussion. They both stared at the fire as they waited out the rain. And once again, John swore that the next mission that had to happen on a Tuesday was Lorne's.
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Rodney McKay Whump - SG: Atlantis
1x03 Hide and Seek - First human trial (DNA manipulated), given a shot, pushed off a balcony, shot (in the leg/off-screen), "punched," verbally bullied, panicking, sacrifices himself, unconscious, sore 1x06 Childhoods End - Annoyed by children, held at arrow-point, exhausted 1x08 Underground - Captured & threatened by Bashirs best friend 1x09 Home - Stranded on earth, captured, unconscious, 1x10 The Storm - Held captive by the Genii, threatened, arm squeezed 1x11 The Eye - Hostage, thoroughly pissed 1x13 Hot Zone - In danger the whole episode, attacked by a vision ghost (schizophrenic), coping (emotional) 1x14 Sanctuary - argument with sheppard, didn't sleep, only person not in love with the fancy evil "priestess" 1x19 The Siege - Falls from a great height, "permanent back damage," offended, emotional (not about himself)
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2x01 The Siege pt. 3 - Almost killed, forced to fight the wraith 2x02 The Intruder - Attacked by coolidge leak, scared by transport beam (is weird), sickened by Sheppards flying, attacked by wraith virus controlled ship 2x03 Runner - Captured/threatened by Ford, caught in a trap upside-down 2x04 Duet - Trapped inside Wraith dart, collapses, unconscious, hospitalized, another consciousness in his body; ego destroyer, angry, sore, fighting for body control, seizure, emotional, kisses Beckett, collapses 2x05 Condemned - shot down, chipped a tooth (?), captured, threatened 2x06 Trinity - Obsessive, makes Sheppard worry/pity, emotional 2x08 Conversion - Worried about Sheppard 2x10 Lost Boys - Kidnapped, threatened 2x11 The Hive - takes dose of wraith enzyme, passes out, goes through insane withdrawal, hospitalized, unconscious 2x14 Grace Under Pressure - Serious head injury, trapped hundreds of feet under water, hallucinating sam, cold and wet 2x17 Coup D'etat - Genii trap, collapses, captured
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3x04 Sateda - Takes an arrow to the butt, immense pain, cared for 3x07 Common Ground - Scared by a mouse 3x08 McKay and Mrs. Miller - Alternate reality Rodney, emotional rollercoaster 3x09 Phantoms - Shot in the chest 3x12 Echoes - Worsening headache, nose bleed, passes out, deaf 3x14 Tao of Rodney - Hit by energy pulse (gene mutation), nervous, acting increasingly strange, insomnia, emotional, overstimulated headache, passes out, hospitalized, flatlines 3x16 The Ark - Almost sucked out into space 3x20 First Strike - Caught in explosion, visible face injury
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4x02 Lifeline - Captured 4x03 Reunion - Attacked by wraith, alone, betrayed, shot unconscious, captured 4x04 Doppleganger - Faces greatest fear, flatlines/cardiac arrest, beaten up 4x06 Tabula Rasa - Deadly disease/lose memory, shot unconscious, running/hiding from militia 4x08 The Seer - sees vision of them getting captured 4x09 Millers Crossing - he and his sister kidnapped, threatened, great bonding with Sheppard 4x10 This Mortal Coil - Captured 4x12 Spoils of War - shot unconscious, captured, almost tortured 4x13 Quarantine - Panicking, ultimate pessimist --> causes his own heartbreak (how NOT to get a girl), L rizz 4x14 Harmony - Forced to guard a child, held at gunpoint 4x16 Trio - Falls, trapped in a cavern, in danger & panicks the whole episode 4x20 The Last Man - Old, depressing backstory, technically dead
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5x01 Search and Rescue - Some face scratches, bleeding, panicks 5x02 The Seed - Panicking x100 5x03 Broken Ties - Captured 5x04 Daedalus Variations - Shot in the arm (worse than it sounds) 5x06 the shrine - Intense memory loss, serious pneumonia, coma, hospitalized, panicking/insanely emotional help infected, intense headache, surgery 5x08 The Queen - Captured 5x09 Tracker - Bonding with Ronon, chased and punched by a wraith, manhandled, sore, shot at 5x10 First Contact - Captured, sore 5x12 Outsiders - Captured 5x13 Inquisition - Knocked unconscious 5x16 Brain Storm - Freezing
#stargate atlantis#sga#stargatea#rodney mckay#whump#whumplist#whump list#emotional whump#david hewlett#rodney mckay whump#david hewlett whump#stargate whump#stargate atlantis whump#sga whump
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Round 1 of the Reverse WIPBB fic claims is live! You may claim as many pieces of art as you want, just fill out a separate form for each and give each claim a different username.
Fic claims for this round will be open until August 29th!
This is just one of the artworks still available for claiming…
Stargate Atlantis #003 Title: That Goddamn Gene Pairing/Characters: (Gen or pairing of author’s choice within them) John Sheppard, Rodney McKay, Teyla Emmagan, Ronon Dex Rating: General | G Warnings/Tags: Rodney, Teyla and Ronon will be retrained by chains. John is mind-whammied by Ancient tech. Summary: The setting is a huge dark hall with columns, off-world. In the foreground, John Sheppard, wearing a deep red robe, is holding a glowing Ancient globe. He’s looking up and blue light shines from his eyes, and there’s a column of blue light coming down from above onto him and the artifact. Behind, in the dark hall, are numerous people or priests all on their knees, bowing down. In front of them stand John’s team, Rodney, Teyla, and Ronon, immobilised (will be by chains), watching helplessly, distressed or angry. Thumbnail:
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