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Hi there, happy (Wincest) Wednesday. We know that when Sam and Dean were kids, they were frequently left alone while John was away, with Dean put in a more direct parental/caretaking role. So I wonder: do you have theories or headcanons about these times when Dean was left in charge? What do you think that was like for them? Thanks!
hello happy wincest everyday --
yeah, the "Dean as substitute dad and mom" thing is one of many that are absolutely wild in the canon of this show. It's soooo good that we only see a few moments of it in flashback (I know there are some fans who wish for like a whole 'prequel' show, but... they're wrong, haha, it's never a good idea to strip out mystery in favor of overexplaining and inevitably fucking up via bad retcons) -- and the moments we see are great, because they don't actually show "Dean as parent", because he's not a parent.
Important to remember that their age difference is only 4ish years. This isn't, like, 17 year old Dean dandling Sam on his knee, as some fics and meta kind of imply. This is one little boy forced to watch out for another little boy, but he's still a little boy. The parentification is particularly fucked up for this reason -- because of course, he still has to make food and he still has to be John's spouse-at-home and he still has to manage everything, but he's, like, 12. Would you let a 12 year old do that and expect it to go perfectly? If you were 8, would you call your 12 year old brother "dad"? No, you'd tell him he smelled like boogers and he'd noogie you in response and you'd try to wrestle him and then your face would get shoved into his armpit and you'd get told yeah? what does that smell like, huh? that smell like boogers? until you cried uncle. Because you're two boys.
Which, obviously, makes the times that Dean actually has to act as a clumsy parent all the sadder. He's just not equipped for it. This is maybe at its most poignant in the Christmas flashback, where he's flipflopping back and forth between big brother and attempted parent at high speed. He really wants to be able to comfort Sam when he's sad but he doesn't have the tools, and how could he. Similarly in the high school flashback (where I guess they're ~15 and 19 and Dean's just really too old to be at that school), when he's looking out for Sam and tries to go overprotective, but Sam shuts it down immediately and Dean has to settle, because -- is he a shouty big brother, or kind of a parent? Is he meant to beat up a bully on Sam's behalf, or talk him through dealing with it himself, or just listen to Sam's feelings on the matter? There's never an obvious choice because the roles are so blurred, and Dean really did his best but there's just no winning.
Really, it's remarkable that Dean and Sam keep liking each other after all this... disaster. They had pretty standard brother bickering and 90% of the time it's that brotherly vibe. Sam's resentful but he mostly keeps the resentment where it belongs (with John); Dean, more remarkably, doesn't seem to be resentful of being forced into that position (again, 90% of the time), I guess because he just genuinely likes Sam and likes hanging out with him and views the failures he had as parent as his own problem (and, when he's a little more emotionally solid, realizes that the blame for that also lies with John, as well as destiny et al).
The other thing that makes their relationship work, clearly, is also that Sam does not view Dean as 'parental'. He talks back and doesn't do what Dean tells him to do and understands the dynamic very well. He doesn't have two "bosses", and is intrinsically bossy himself, and is honestly amazing at maintaining a sense of solid independent identity even as an 8 year old. So I guess, with all that babbling, my headcanon (based firmly in actual canon) is -- Dean was 'in charge', and took that seriously, but it was an unstable and maybe confusing and sometimes very scary thing from his POV; and Sam never felt like that was 100% true in any case, and so from Sam's POV it was the case that they were both abandoned by John, and so Dean never really counted as 'parent' at all. Which is really cool. Characters with mismatched perspectives on the same event lead to great stories.
#happy wincest wednesday#answers#...i guess bc wincest i should add -- and then they fuck about it?#but i guess that's part of it too honestly#the blurred roles are all of a piece#but dean's roles for sam are More Blurred than sam's view of them#if you asked sam he'd never say dean was a 'parent'#he'd say dean got stuck with taking care of him but that's not the same thing#and yet dean literally says he had to be father and mother#and then wife. i guess#....anyway then they fuck about it
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Maybe they titled it āTombstoneā because thatās when s13 stopped making sense.
Or: how the āJack made Cas see Paradiseā beat was dumped on Kelly and how Jack is very much like Fleabag because āNo oneās asked me a question in 45 minutesā.
I wish I could share in the general excitement surrounding this episode but, to me, its āfeel-goodā energy is too much of a foreboding for the rest to come that Iām like, nooooo, I canāt take iiiiiittt. After this episode the season completely derails: Castielās character doesnāt make sense anymore, Sam and Dean go back and forth in a plot thatās a joke and Jackā¦ whereās Jack? Do we still have a character named Jack? Ah, yes, here he is, maybe I see him.
In the second scene of the episode we have on one side of the room Jack and Dean, the two characters who are very much emotional because of Casā return.
Jack is super tender when he approaches Cas and tells him that he missed him. Heās also super zealous to show his father that heās been learning to master his powers (he can move a pencil!) and that he has gathered enough knowledge about the family business to find a case, a hunterās case. His purpose in this episode is to demonstrate to his father that he fits in, that heās good.Ā
Deanās also in high spirits and itās because of Casā return as well but the reason is, of course, different. Clearly, he doesnāt have anything to prove to him but heās euphoric about his āwinā. He was literally dead not even 24h prior when he was desperate for an anchor that would reconnect him with meaning and reality. Well, not any anchor. He specifically needed Castiel because, unlike with his mother, Dean didnāt get to have any reconciliation with Cas in s12.
CASTIEL: I don't... What are you doing here? DEAN: Saving your ass. SAM: You and Kelly just taking off was a stupid move. But there's no way we're letting Lucifer get his hands on that kid. It ain't happening. DEAN: Look, Sam's right, okay? We'll work through our crap. We always do. But right now, we are here to get you, get Kelly, and get gone.
Narratorās voice: theyāll never work through their ācrapā. Sigh.
On the other side of the room we have Castiel, whoās fresh off the Empty and looks like he could use a day or two of rest, and Sam, whoās mentally trying to figure out if it was Jack who resurrected Castiel and how he can apply this knowledge to saving Mary. Both Cas and Sam are the ones who are, if not downright contrary, not particularly over the moon by the prospect of working a case.
The tragedy is that both Jack and Dean are so happy about it that it almost feels like they can all forget about the fact that they had to burn Cas but now he's here, that Dean had thoughtlessly run towards death 2 seconds before and that Jack very much doesnāt know yet how to control his powers. In other words, this scene forecasts disaster.
This episode also marks Casā first attempt at parenting Jack and it goes both well and disastrously bad for him. Now, parenting is a fucking hard job consisting of infinite responsibilities, one of which is saying no and setting boundaries. This is how Cas starts parenting Jack.
The good news for Cas is that he seems to instinctively predict Jackās actions, thus knowing when itās time to say ānoā. The slightly bad news is that Jack doesnāt listen to him. And, I mean, this totally makes sense because 1. Jackās all happy and energized about āhisā case; 2. heās very eager to show off what he has learnt; 3. this is his first chance with his father, itās like a clean slate for him and he really wants to pass the exam with a āgoodā stamped on his forehead.
Three times Cas tells Jack āNoā and three times Jack disobeys.
The first time is when Jack wants to wake up Dean to tell him about the police update and Cas tells him that he āwouldnāt do thatā. Jack, however, would very much want to and so he finds himself face to face with Deanās gun. Things will get very bad.
The second time Cas tells Jack āNoā is when theyāre outside the bank and Cas tells Jack to stay where he is but Jack tells him that heās āgot thisā. Which he doesnāt because he accidentally kills the security guard.
The third and final time that Cas tells Jack āNoā is before he disappears from the bunker. He does it anyway.
Now this might sound strange but, so far, Cas hasnāt done that bad. This is the super-secret that SPN doesnāt want you to know but disobeying the father is actually not that big of a deal, rather itās quite healthy and it also makes sense for Jack because heās known his chosen father for maybe less than two days. Their relationship has just started and they need to find their own balance. Whatās more important here is the fact that Cas can foresee and understand Jackās actions, which is a victory for everybody because so far in the season heās the only one whoās been able to do that.
What he totally fails at is, unfortunately, trying to understand who Jack is. Sam, Dean and Cas have their own (different) opinion about who Jack is and they all hold tight to their beliefs. One thing that always struck me is that nobody asks Jack any question. For me this means that nobody is trying to understand him, they're not curious enough to want to get to know someone like Jack.
Jack is good or evil or special and that's it. And "that's it" because Sam, Dean and Cas see him that way but there isnāt much communication going on in that damn bunker. For instance, when Cas comes back he tells Jack that Sam and Dean have told him that heās doing well. I donāt want to say itās a lie but itās a lie. Nobody is doing well since May 18th. Jack agrees but promptly changes the subject by showing him the pencil trick. This is deflection 101.
One thing that Sam and Cas have in common, though, is that their idea of Jack is strictly dependent on what they think about Kelly and I canāt help but grimace because of it.
Sam, for completely unknown reasons, thinks Kelly was a āgoodā person, therefore Jack must have a good, perhaps āstrongerā side in him that can win over Luciferās evilness. Leaving aside for a moment that this a backward, problematic view of maternity, Sam canāt possibly know if Kelly was a good person or not because the two maybe talked to each other one or two times and both times werenāt particularly meaningful moments for either of them. Not saying Kelly wasnāt a good person, just underlining that Samās beliefs about Jack are based on his own assumptions bearing zero evidence of reality and founded on outdated notions about maternity.
Cas, on the other hand, thinks Kelly believed that Jack would change the world for the better and so he does too. The thing is, though, if we look back at s12 itās not Kelly who thought that her son would change the world, itās Castiel. Kelly thought that she was part of a plan, that she and Cas were destined for something great. She wasnāt the one who had the vision of the future, Castiel had. We have to consider two things here: what Kelly meant by āsomething greatā and Casā utopic vision that we donāt see.
Iāve said it many times and Iāll say it again: not even one writer was interested in giving Kelly a little bit of backstory so that we could have an insight on how she is as, you know, a Real Character. As far as motherhood (the sole defining trait of her character) is concerned, we know she wanted to do the ābaby thingā with the President and that she had always dreamt about being a mother.
What we do know for sure, however, is that she was a pregnant woman who: was sexually assaulted, abducted, forced to suddenly understand and comply with the supernatural worldās dynamics, abducted again, chained, had committed suicide, had been resurrected, was abducted again, was intimidated by two strangers to get into their car to go to an underground bunker so that they could perform whatever the hell Sam planned to do on her. So, I ask, maybe, just maybe, is it possible to view her behavior and her words in āThe Futureā as those of someone who probably had all the rights to be on the verge of a mental breakdown? They couldāve framed her āfanaticismā re: Jack's birth as, perhaps, a way to cope with the living hell she was subjected to during her pregnancy. To give meaning to what was happening to her. Regardless of the framing, the show makes a point to tell us that she first and then Cas, Kelly thought, were the ones destined for something great. The writers compared her to Rosemary (from the movie/book "Rosemary's Baby"), like, three times. I hoped that it was a way to signal the abuse she had to endure but I don't think it's the case, sadly.
This is a part of Kelly and Casā dialogue in āThe Futureā that I particularly hate:
Kelly: Maybe. Or maybe it was a miracle. Maybe ā maybe everything that I've been through, everything that I still have to go through, is happening for a reason. Maybe it's part of some plan. Castiel: No, it isn't. I used to believe in a plan. I used to believe that I had some mission. But I have been through enough now to know that everyone is just winging it. Some of us quite badly. Lucifer, he's just breaking toys. He's sowing destruction and chaos, and there is no grand purpose at work. And there's no special role for you. When Lucifer took over Rooney's body, I'm sorry. You were just there.
While I understand that Castiel here is more speaking about himself than about Kelly and he, as well, is very well much on the verge of a menty b, I find it so utterly unfair to tell her that she was ājust thereā.
First of all, NO, if anything, Lucifer was ājust thereā, she was where she had her right to be, doing her job, sleeping with her partner, talking about her dreams, living her life. That was her life and it was destroyed in an instant, it was only human that she needed a way to make sense of what she was going through. Pregnancy is already a nightmare and, on top of that, she had to go through all that?
And second of all, she literally came back to life after suicide, how couldnāt she not start behaving weirdly? I know the writers were writing Supernatural were Death has only value for characters without any āspecial roleā in the narrative, but come on, they literally just wrote a character telling another character that she has slit her wrists and this is the reply she gets: youāre not special, what happened to you was because you were just there. Brrrrrrrr.
But letās move to my second point.
Letās talk about Castielās vision. Because, you see, we think that Jack manipulated him but how do we really know it? Yes, thereās that cut scene but it was cut nevertheless and itās crucial that we donāt see it because, by not seeing it, we canāt really know for sure if Jack had manipulated Cas for real.
Letās compare it with what Kelly sees when Jack sends her āvisions of the futureā and what we see: Kelly sees what will happen next in the episode. Period. We see the same thing. Period. No mention of destiny, just the future in the very sense of āwhatās going to happen in the next few hoursā. She, like us, doesnāt know what Jack has supposedly made Cas see. We know she hasnāt seen anything because in āAll Along the Watchtowerā we have this little scene here:
KELLY: Tell me again. Tell me again what you saw. CASTIEL: Right, I sawā I saw... I saw the future. I saw a world without pain or hunger or want. I saw the world that this child... that your child... KELLY: Mm. CASTIEL: ...will create. KELLY: Mm. CASTIEL: And it is a world without fear and without suffering and without hate. KELLY: Mm. CASTIEL: I saw paradise.
So the one who was in love with the idea of Jackās special destiny was not Kelly but Cas.
This is why this dialogue from āTombstoneā seems suspicious to me:
CASTIEL: Yeah, I know she is. Kelly wasā¦ She was a very brave woman. JACK: She left me a message. She said I had an angel watching over me. CASTIEL [sighs]: Jack, I'm so sorry. I-I should've been here for you. JACK: No. It's okay. It's justā¦ I understand why she trusted you. Why I trusted you. CASTIEL: You remember that? JACK: I remember feelingā¦ safe. CASTIEL: Jack, your mother, she believed that you would do amazing things. She said that you would change the world for the better. And now, looking at you, talking to you, I know that she was right, that we were right. Kelly would be so proud of you.
I think that the reason why we donāt see Casā vision in s12 is because the show wanted to do something with it in s13. It might be the case, what with all the talk about how āParadise on earthā the Original World seems to be compared to Apocalypse World in s13. I mean, these are just my speculations but it could be. Because, as a matter of fact, Casā vision of Jackās future is dropped in favor of Kellyās vision of Jackās future and thisā¦ actually never happens?
What we know , though, is that Kelly tells Jack the following in āPatienceā:
Kelly: Jack, donāt let anyone tell you who youāre supposed to be. Because who youāre supposed to be isnāt fate, it isnāt me, it isnāt your father. You are who you choose to be. And I know youāre going to okay. You are going to be amazing. You have an angel watching over you.
Sheās telling Jack that who he is isnāt fate, that he can choose who he wants to be. I mean, thereās definitely something off going on here.
Maybe they just dropped Casā āI saw the futureā beat (that was presented as what convinced Cas to save Jack) on Kelly because, by the time the writers started planning s13, they decided that they werenāt gonna use it anymore? I donāt know, what Iām saying, though, is that Kelly was more focused on her kid being good rather than evil as everybody assumed, whereas it was Cas who āsawā Jack change the world for the better. But we donāt see what Cas sees so we have to take his and Deanās word for it. And both words seem to be pretty biased. At any rate, something doesnāt add up in between s12 and s13.
So, to recap: what we have seen is that Kelly has never actually said that her son would do great things, but that she believed that her son would be good. It was Castiel who believed that Jack would create great things in the future because of a vision neither us nor Kelly have ever seen. Even if we consider the cut scene it still doesnāt account for the difference between Kellyās and Casā visions and/or why Kelly didnāt see what Cas saw.
Another person that underlies the āto be vs to doā dilemma is Mia Vallens where in āThe Big Emptyā she shapeshifts into Kelly:
JACK: Sam thinks you were right, thatāthat Iām good. He wants me to believe it, and I wanna believe it, too. Itās just, Iā¦ Iāve hurt people. I didnāt mean to. It was an accident. And I know I should feel bad, and I say I feel bad, but most of the time, I mostlyā¦ I donāt feel anything. And thatās why I think maybeā¦ Maybe Iām a monster. MIA/KELLY: Jack. It doesnāt matter what you are. It matters what you do. And even monsters can do good in this world. JACK: You really believe that? MIA/KELLY: I have to. I have to.
First of all, Mia is telling Jack that heās a monster, lol. And she literally doesnāt know heās a Nephilim so WTF? Anyway, the things are two: either the writers were drunk when they wrote this (Jack: āIāve hurt people, I think Iām a monsterā Mia: āIt doesnāt matter what you are, only what you doā. MIA, ffs, THIS IS WHAT HE HAS JUST TOLD YOU, HELLO????? HELLO???? Heās just told you that he has done something that makes him think heās a monster, how do you not see how your advice is shit?) or, more probably, they blatantly wanted to remind us that the person whoās speaking is not Kelly but a shapeshifter who tries to do good things to atone for her past crimes. She has to believe that because of her own past, not Jack, not Kelly, Mia.
Whatās more, Jack saying he doesnāt feel anythingā¦ doesnāt really mean he doesnāt feel anything. Since he was born heās been living with two men obsessing over āgood and evilā, two concepts he still clearly and rightfully doesnāt understand because nobody is explaining him shit. How is he supposed to know? Of course heās confused as to how or what he should feel.
For example, by the end of āTombstoneā Jack is evidently confused and ashamed. He feels shame because he has āfailedā in front of his father, his āfailureā resulted in the death of an innocent man and, whatās more, Sam, Cas and Dean are talking about him in the other room like heās just proven that heāll never be good. Excluding and talking about someone when this someone is feeling shame is, like, the worst response ever.
No wonder the episode ends like this:
SAM: Jack, look, this life, what we do, it'sā¦ it's not easy. And we've all done things we regret. JACK: Just don't. You're afraid of me. CASTIEL: Jack, no. JACK: No, maybe you're right. Maybe I'm just another monster. DEAN: No, you're not. I thought you were. I did. Butā¦ Like Sam said, we've all done bad. We all have blood on our hands. So if you're a monster, we're all monsters. JACK: No, you don'tā¦ Every time I try and do something good, people get hurt. I thought I was getting better. I'm notā¦ I don't know what I am, but I know I can't make the world a better place, not like this. I can't even do one good thing. And I know that if I stay, I'm gonna hurt you. All of you. Andā¦ I can't. You're all I have.
My heart aches a little at the words āYouāre all I haveā because they have all failed him so much and he literally doesnāt have anyone else.
Also, Jack echoing of Casā words āShe said that you would change the world for the betterā resembles what Chuck told Sam and Dean in s11 and that Dean paraphrases in his prayer to him: āYou said the earth would be fine because it had meā¦ and it had Samā discarding them as false (canāt shake the feeling that they wanted to go somewhere with that āParadise on earthā crap).
All Jack has has unfortunately failed him: Sam has failed him with his training mentality that bore no fruit and made Jack think that he had value only if he succeeded; Dean has failed him because he both threatened to kill him and provided āshelterā for him putting Jack in the position of basically having to live with his possible executioner (we know Dean wouldnāt eventually do it but the point is that Jack doesnāt and Deanās threats deeply, deeply affect him).
Cas was the only one who could have had a real shot with Jack but he arrived tooo lateeee! And he (understandably) came back with his own package of preconceived ideas, ideas that made it all worse because Cas didn't know that Jack was noooot doing well! I hate SPN, why would they do this to meeeee?
Of course Jack would eventually run away. Perhaps the major takeaway from all this is that he did way better on his own than with the three of them. And that says a lot.
#spn s13 tendency to āblame it on the mothersā irks me so much.#let the characters explore their relationship with their mothers once the last are brought back into the narrative#and if the mother has to stay dead like kelly. please don't put words in her mouth#castiel's obsession over the fact that he broke the promise he made to Kelly is absolutely interesting#but that's still about what Cas thinks. Kelly is dead and she can't speak so please don't put words in her mouth thank you#supernatural#spn#castiel#sam winchester#kelly kline#dean winchester#jack kline#spn meta#spn s13#spn s12#tombstone#jack the puer#s13e6#phd in spn s12#super-m/Others#tw: abuse#tw: sa mention#tw: suidice
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it's really interesting that in 14.01, when dean does not have an active role within the patriarchal structure of the narrative because his autonomy is being violated and he has been unwillingly removed, the narrative does not assign his position to anyone else.
unlike season one, in which dean is demoted from any kind of upper-patriatchal inclination whenever john resumes an active/sure position in their lives, not even sam is given as explicit of a patriarchal role as dean's despite the fact that he is quite literally offered it and he is, logically, next in line both in terms of the cycle of abuse as well as the familial structure. the apocalypse world refugees willingly refer to him as their leader and call him chief, they do what he says and they trust him almost unwaveringly but it is a role he has explicitly shruggedāhe doesn't want to be called chief and he isn't around a lot of the time to 'command' them because he's out looking for the patriarch: dean.
sam's explicit rejection of this patriarchal role can even be seen throughout the episode: he makes avid attempts at reconnecting with ('mothering') jack after being apart from him for more than half of the previous season while consoling him about his lost grace (while bobby does the adoptive 'fathering', the toughening up) and he is the one who nurses nick back to better health; these are all indications of the perpetuation of the non-role that he has occupied before and that had only been accentuated through sam and dean's adoption of jack.
the way cas and sam's, as well as mary and sam's relationship operates is very indicative of the vacant (yet paused) role of the patriarch hanging over their heads; there have been so many instances over the seasons in which these characters are capable of having a relationship that does not revolve around dean or his absence, but this is only possible when his presence is a guarantee or there has been a more explicit removal of either party from the other. their relationship now revolves around deanāif they are having a one-on-one conversation, it's about dean like some kind of remixed bechdel test which furthers the idea that dean does indeed hold the current crested patriarchal position within the narrative. sam cannot take dean's role because that role is still dean's; the narrative has left the space open almost as a kind of foreshadowing that dean will return to take it and it is sam, cas and mary's responsibility that he be returned to it.
i think this points to the foundational crux of sam's character that is the explicit otherness that he exists to represent in terms of both the familial dynamic that was john-dean-sam and later the hunting dichotomy of 'hunter vs monster/us vs them' that are both continuously related to each other perpetuated within his patriatchal non-role. there's a layer of liminality here that aims to explore the dynamic that sam and dean have now that dean is absent: not only does sam's otherness that is encapsulated within his non-role with dean keep him properly tethered to The Life that they fight with and against together but the patriarchal structure and dynamic they have together vs the world cannot exist without dean.
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I'm so sick of writing this essay every day.
It WAS out of character, but it was written, so you have to find Sam's truth in it, as Jared once said. Everyone goes straight to, "well, Dean was ANGRY that Sam didn't look for him, so Sam was WRONG TO CHOOSE TO DO THAT." Do we honestly think that SamĀ stood there in that lab, wide-eyed and hyperventilating in front of Crowley and his taunting, thinking "Well damn, Dean's gone, I'm going to CHOOSE not to look for him." Not being facetious, because he might've done (it is, after all, the rational choice considering all the harm to creation they've caused as a team (and that's also kind of the truth Sam offers to Dean, when he later tries and fails to explain it to him).
So *was* it a conscious plan to offhandedly abandon his brother? I think not. Because we're shown throughout the seasons that Sam is usually such an analytical, practical person, and insanely single-minded and vengeful when it comes to saving Dean - even in the direst of straits, Sammy keeps his head; hits the lore, solves the problem. In character, he would've found out he was in Purgatory, he would've summoned Death and begged him for another random eclipse (another of which, by the way, had already been outright refused).
So why does nobody ever offer Sam grace and consider *why was he out of character?* It's because he was reeling. He'd lost everyone he'd ever loved, he was still absolutely swamped by guilt, head swimming with Hell trauma that had nearly killed him. He was running on fumes already at the end of season 7. He had no Bunker at that point, no comfort, no Bobby anymore. The angels were d1cks. No demons would make a deal. All he had left, and all he could do, was go back to the car. "I fixed up the Impala, and I drove." The scenes where he hit the dog, he was absolutely frantic. Reminded again how much pain and destruction he causes. Amelia was a lifeline, an (unhappy imo) accident - she just happened. He wasn't chasing happiness, or a normal life at that point. Just running.
So thoughts of Dean, the Life, Kevin, everything unfinished would come back and poke at his brain... At that point, do you stay hiding, buried, living in a motel, clinging to someone who makes you a birthday cake, fixing sinks, not being traumatised, abandoned, hospitalised, killed? Or do you give yourself an shake and say "c'mon Sam, stand up and find your brother, have the audacity to insert yourself back into a world where your *very existence* killed him, made his life hell, made his death literal hell, killed your own mother, father, the love of your life, millions of others, caused apocalypse, destroyed Kevin's life, got *his* girlfriend killed...
He, of course, can't say all that to Dean. How can he?
"we promised we weren't going to look for each other" - it's easier - prove it was a rational choice. "I met a girl and decided not to hunt anymore" - ok, Dean will be angry, but Dean's anger is usual, normal, and easier to deal with than facing Dean's disappointment in Sam's unravelling.
I might be overanalysing and giving him too much credit. But he deserves it and this is a Sam-positive post. And if you watch the scene with Cas and Sam in the cartoon world in Hunteri Heroici, you can *see* it. His ranting at Fred about living in a dream world isn't about Fred. It's all about his own anger at himself, taking on board yet more guilt, because he can never do anything right. He's more than out of character. He's an absolute mess.
#sam winchester#just one day without this fucking discussion please dear god#ādean deserved betterā oh shut up for fuck sake as if dean was never problematic as fuck
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well I hope you liked those AUs, because hereās two more that Iāve had on the backburner for months. Iāve had no motivation to write for these, despite the fact that I really like the concepts:
āShowstopperā
- Instead of banishing him, Juno rents out Beetlejuice to other demons and humans whoāve found the tools to summon him, forced to do nothing but take orders for centuries.
- When heās not on the job, heās forced to wear a collar that drains him of his magic before he has a chance to use it. Think of it like an inverse spiked collar, with a bunch of little syringe-like pricks going into his neck. Wearing it for so longās left a scar thatās kind of like a dotted line along his neck.
- Anyways, the plot happens when heās summoned by Otho, and what seems like a routine call turns into a plan to trick his mom in giving him his freedom.
- Surprise! Itās a partially Otho-centric fic, because honestly, I feel like heās a little underutilized. In this AU, heās still a con man, but heās invested a lot into his studies of the supernatural
- Spoilers, it works, and the two enter a partnership. Beej gets sanctity in the living world and a new afterlife to call his own, and Otho gets the worldās best special effects for his new traveling stage show. After heās free, Beej usually covers the scars around his neck with a scarf or bandana
- Enter Lydia. At this point, her home situation is father, daughter, and Delia, and sheās having absolutely none of it. Deliaās still a life coach, but sheās more of a fan of Othoās than a disciple. So, naturally, she feels that one of the best ways to cheer Lydia up is to take her to see one of his shows, and Charles is too exhausted and desperate to argue.
-Lydia hates the performance, but she immediately notices the uncredited stage crew behind the curtain. After sneaking backstage, she meets Beej, whoās being kept inside a steamer trunk surrounded by salt while Otho addresses the paparazzi. The two of them strike up a deal of their own: she calls him out in her house, and he scares the shit out of Charles and Delia
-Shenanigans involving Beej literally being in two places at once ensue, Otho finds out and is initially hurt that Beej went behind his back, but scaring with Lyds helped him realize that only existing as a stage trick wasnāt much of a step up from his previous cage. Long story short, Beej and Otho make a new agreement, and Lydia ends up with the worldās weirdest internship.
- From there, Beej and Otho are Lydiaās honorary gay uncles with no kids who spoil her during the holidays. (yeah there might be BJ x Otho stuff in here, because next to nobody writes that ship. Nothing sexual onscreen, though)
āBold Departureā
- Not sugarcoating it, Juno just straight up mauls her son and leaves him for dead (metaphorically) on Saturn.
- Except, itās the actual planet Saturn. Heās found by astronauts who take him back to Earth. Heās pretty much 2 weeks from fading from existence, so through the magicy-science of the future, his essence is converted into code and heās given a shiny new robot body with a whole bunch of bells and whistles that work pretty much like his old tricks.
- Heās also given the new name Betelgeuse. The name also acts as a safety function, saying it three times locks him out of his more dangerous toys.
- Hundreds of years later, when a scouting expedition ship lands on a distant planet, Lydia finds the signal of a dusty robot in a striped suit using the last memento her mother gave her before her disappearance.
-I do have some plot for this, but itās very spoiler-heavy, so Iāll share some of the planned roles for the characters.
- Charles is the main organizer and captain of the vessel (that I havenāt named yet). He works under Maxie Dean and mainly makes voyages to trade with nearby civilizations or scout out desolate planets.
- Lydiaās either a stowaway or here for work experience. She still has her passion for photography and morbid curiosity, and is super interested to see what the other reaches of space have to say about the abstract and weird. She never goes anywhere without her camera and a little tamagotchi-like device. The latter of which is the last gift from her mom. (She also puts Beej in it when sheās travelling around because the last thing she wants her dad to know about is her new nasty murder robo-BFFFF)
- Adam and Barbara are mechanics on the ship, theyāre not really high-ranking, mostly relegated to maintenance and checking gauges and fuel. Together, theyāre the best at fixing up mobile robot units, though, so they are the first people Lydia reveals her new killing machine to. After the initial shock of āoh god I didnāt even know something could hold that many sharp thingsā wears off, they find out that Beej is a pretty good conversationalist when heās not making passes at them or cracking jokes darker than coal. He does his best to play wingman to the both of them, since itās obvious they like each other and havenāt said anything yet. Who knows, maybe he could get in on that action?
if you guys liked any of the ones I posted here, Iāll be happy to drop lil breadcrumbs of headcanons or non-spoilery plot, maybe even chapters when I get to working on āem.
#beetlejuice#beetlejuice au#showstopper au#bold departure au#bitchin rad au tag#posted this at like 2 AM damn
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What an interesting little part of the scene I never noticed before.
John says "Hey Dean" but nothing to Mary or Sam. Of course Dean runs to his dad. "Daddy!" (so cute btw)
John picks him up and teases, asking Dean if he thinks Sam is ready to throw a football around or not yet. To which Dean tells him "No, Daddy".
John playfully agrees and Mary passes by, smiling, asking John if he's got him. John's eyes never leave her until she walks out of his eyeline and then Dean puts his head on John's shoulder, while John says "I've got him", his eyes immediately landing on Sam.
"Sweet dreams, Sam" John says to Sam from the doorway and we see Sam turn his eyes onto John. John then walks out of the room, carrying Dean, and turning the light off.
Here's why this is so interesting and what kills me about it:
When the scene starts, Mary has Dean in her arms, turns the light on, and pays attention to both boys, telling Dean "come on, let's say goodnight to your brother" even though Sam was still in his crib. Dean and Mary both kiss Sam goodnight on the forehead.
This blocking (and editing) speaks volumes, especially when you consider what happens later in this season, this story even.
John has no idea about anything hunting related or who Sam will become at this point in time, what will happen to Mary -- none of it. But here in this one sequence, Kripke and Nutter gave you the beginning of the very complex/complicated Winchester family dynamics.
In these few seconds we get:
Mary -> light, close with both boys, bringing Dean to Sam
John -> dark, only close to Dean, taking Dean away
John never taking his eyes off Mary until she's out of eyesight - in love/loves her
"I've got him" John's eyes go to Sam
And then we remember:
Mary becomes the fantasy mother figure for Dean and Sam; everything went to pot once she died & they were forced into this hunting life/war; in this scene she's the parent, encouraging Dean to say goodnight to his brother, not asking him anything about Sam
John becomes the authoritarian father and is consumed by his quest for revenge; when Sam goes to college, Dean stays with John & John relies on him heavily as he has since Dean was a kid (2x01 hospital monologue scene)
John needs revenge for Mary's death, wants to kill YED/Azazel
John doesn't have Sam when the boys' story kicks off when he's in college; later in 2x01, John lays the burden on Dean's shoulders to try to save Sam from going bad or he'd have to kill him
I'm not trying to suggest that Kripke had the first five seasons all planned out or even what John ends up telling Dean in 2x01. I'm not trying to suggest that anyone involved with the pilot knew if it would actually get picked up. But considering this moment and the way it was blocked, the performances, the edits -- this sets up that Winchester family dynamic before shit even hits the fan, and it links to the rest of the season beautifully.
John's reaction to Sam is so diametrically opposed to his reaction to Dean and Mary. And we see this play out later on when John comes back and how Dean is in the middle, both literally and figuratively (just like Dean in this scene is in between John and baby Sam).
And that's just some good fucking writing (and acting/directing) right there.
#spn rewatch 1x01#spn rewatch#spn#spnposts#the og winchesters#eric kripke appreciation#david nutter appreciation#jeffrey dean morgan appreciation#samantha smith appreication#spn appreciation#'you get some appreciation and you get some appreciation everyone gets appreciation'
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jensen ackles' roles rated by their daddy issues (part 2)
jason teague (smallville)- 7/10 his dad cut him off and he did not have a good relationship with him at all. he only got a 7 though because he had MUCH bigger mommy issues.
jake gray (devour)- 10/10 he had a tense relationship with his adoptive father who was played by jensen's real life father. the layers there alone would give him a high score but then we also find out that jake's girlfriend is actually his biological mother who is actually satan. i don't know if that would make satan his mother or his father but nevertheless i think that gives him a perfect score.
boaz priestly (ten inch hero)- 8/10 if i remember correctly, he directly says something negative about his father at some point in the movie. but even if he doesn't, it shouldn't matter. the man has a dyed mohawk, multiple piercings, and regularly wears eyeliner. he hates his father for sure.
tom hanniger (my bloody valentine)- 7.5/10 he was estranged from his father but i'll be honest tom had some much bigger issues going on than just the daddy variety. that definitely took a back seat here.
jason todd (batman: under the red hood)- 9.5/10 his adoptive father is batman and he grows up to be a murderer and a crime boss out of resentment. you do the math. .5 deducted cuz i didn't get to physically see jensen cry about this.
dean winchester (supernatural)- 20/10 literally no character has ever been more defined by their daddy issues than dean winchester. literally everything he does can be traced back to his relationship with his father. he is the blueprint for characters with daddy issues.
bruce wayne (batman: the long halloween)- 4/10 i feel like batman SHOULD have more daddy issues but really he's just sad his parents are dead. which could count, i suppose. he had alfred as a positive father figure, though, so i think his bigger issues are everything else about him.
beau arlen (big sky)- 5/10 barely know this man yet but i'm giving him a preemptive half score because it's a safe bet this old fashioned texas cop man will have a few issues with his father.
soldier boy (the boys)- 10/10 jensen and kripke combine forces again to not only make this character HAVE daddy issues but we also actively got to watch him GIVE homelander brand new daddy issues for the first time! great work guys, thank you so much.
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Crack theory on Aric's dad (obviously contains spoilers) (part 1??)
Like said in the title, this I gonna be absolute chaos, and literally some of it (maybe all of it) might not make any literal sense.
As the SGE bookworms out there know, in book 6 when Sophie, Bettina, etc. were walking in that one wizard tree scene with all of those "flowers", one of them had urged Sophie to open it up, and as a reward, it would reveal who Aric's father was.
From that moment on, something automatically clicked that his father may actually be a big part in the plot of the series, since Soman can't possibly be stupid enough to just throw that question in out of no where.
It'll probably be revealed who it actually is further on in the Rise series, but I'm trying to collaborate why out of all people, Soman chose Hook to be one of the main character(ish) in the book.
It could be because it was later revealed that he was Hort's father, or it was just because Soman wanted some angsty tension between Rafal and Rhian.
I really don't know why yet, (it's 1am and I haven't read the series in a while, so feel free to cringe behind your scenes if I state something wrong all of a sudden), but he's obviously going to be developed as a character further on in Rise.
Aric's appearance and background
It was stated that Aric's eyes are (were *wink, wink*) a lethal violent tint, and he has spiky "raven-black" hair along with pale skin, all in reference to Lady Lesso's appearance too, so he obviously adapted her looks.
It's also explained how he grew up in Bloodbrook, which may I remind you, where Hort grew up in (is that where some pirates were too, or was that just Neverland? Cause if there were some pirates in Bloodbrook, that can also be more proof that Hook was Aric's father too *sorry, again I haven't read it in a long time*) š
I'm not saying that just because he grew up in Bloodbrook, it automatically turns him into Hort's step-sibling, because that's literally like saying Anadil and Hort can be SibLIngS too.
(Totally irrelevant, but Hort also had "Raven-black" hair. Prob one of the least important points that link back to Aric, but oh well, it's better than nothing).
Ever-never handbook hints
In the "frequently asked questions" chapter, there's literally a question of Dovey answering to literally "who was Aric's father?"
She answered with "a hulking, well-muscled man" had apparently come to the School's gates, asking for Lady Lesso, to which the Dean had refused to see him right after Dovey explained his appearance.
At the end, it said something like "he's out there in the Woods alive, just waiting," or something similar.
Seriously, Soman, how obvious are you willing to make it for the readers that we all already know his dad as a character, just not who he exactly is yet?...
Aric's relationship with Rafal
Sometimes I wonder how the hell these two came to be BudDiEs fOrevEr during book 3.
Was it because Rafal liked watching Aric pick on his mother as "revenge", or because he knew who his father was, and they had an unstable-but-okayish-sort-of-friendship in the past. (Maybe it did refer to why Rafal gave Aric the becoming the second dean, and I just don't remember lmao).
And besides, apparently those two even conspired to create uniforms together according to the Ever Never Hand Bookš
How on Earth can Rafal be "close" to the son of a woman we all saw he was annoyed at?
Linking back to my two points above, it was either because they bonded over the love of talking sh about Aric's poor mother, or Rafal knew who Aric's dad was all along.
And thus brings an end to this exceedingly long theory (remember, it's supposed to be chaotic, and I'm probably 90% wrong, but you never know...)
I'm tired asf right now, and it's exactly 1:39am now, (it really took me 39 minutes to write all of this, and it probably has errors everywhere, but oh well).
#Aric lesso#sge netflix#soman chainani#sophie of woods beyond#sge#rafal mistral#Rhian mistral#Evelyn Sader#Aric's dad#lady lesso#professor dovey#school master#captain hook#hort#wendy#Aric#school for evil#school for good
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anonymous asked: You know the most baffling thing about seeing Jess hate in the tags is when you immediately find out that the same people that hate him as a character and love Logan or Christopher or Dean then say something like "sure, Jess had it rough, but that is no excuse for how he behaved!" and yet they seem, completely fine?? With how the rest of the men in this series behaved?
I gave up on going into the main tags for this exact same reason because once one of them starts complaining, an entire league just picks up the pace and you get the same old points be regurgitated by the same 3 people over and over again. It's just boring at this point, like they spend so much time obsessively hating Jess and yet they can't even make up new reasons for it? I know that going as far as saying shit like "he probably sold meth as crystal candy to underage toddlers in New York in order to make some money in season 5" takes a lot of creativity but if you can't beat that, then your obsession with this character seems pretty pointless lmao.
And it's always the same with their reasons for liking Logan and Dean or preferring them, too! There's literally zero substance or interesting takes being given about these characters from their fans and it's so baffling to see at times?? Like the reason I love Jess is because his familial relationships, and even his ongoing connection with Rory are ripe for analyzing and talking about. I would extend this favor to Logan to a point because while his rich boy background is overwhelmingly generic (emotionally absent father who drinks habitually and cheats on his wife, mother who is a nervous wreck and the stereotypical wife of a rich man who married him for his money), there's still some aspects you could lean into and even dissect like how his destructive tendencies can be easily paralleled to his father's behavior AND to their relationship with each other. But again, nothing is done with this by his fans! They just repeat the same shit over and over again about how Logan was "the most perfect husband material to ever exist", despite the fact that there's various red flags given throughout the series even in season 7 where he goes back to his old habits and doesn't even communicate with Rory properly before he abruptly proposes, then ditches her. If they would at least admit that the so-called "ignorant writing choices" are also part of a larger pattern with his character and embraced his faults I'd get it, but they don't?
The same thing goes for Dean's fans. Dean has frankly nothing to credit him as being an interesting character because he practically exists to be Rory's first boyfriend (and then first experience in being the other woman š„“). Every other relationship we see him in like with Lindsay, Luke or even Lorelai border on embarrassing to incredibly frustrating and negative, given how Dean seems to be completely fine with demeaning Luke's relationship with Lorelai because of his own personal history, or freely taking part in an affair despite being married to Lindsay. Like, he literally gives Lindsay more consideration only AFTER he has cheated on her and publicly humiliated her with that fact. I'm truly confused as to how Jess antis go on to say that even Dean was better than him when he willingly ruined his marriage with an affair by sleeping with Rory, an act that neither Jess or Rory ever did when she was with Dean. Last time I checked, Rory didn't try to sleep with Jess multiple times in season 3. And of course his fans just vaguely say they don't support that before then going on their 500th tirade about how Rory, an average high-schooler who's only dated one guy in her 17 year life by that point, had the audacity to develop a crush on a guy who liked her back and just wanted to spend time talking to her. Their reasons are frankly predictable at this point and honestly for all their complaining about Jess fans, the ones I see in the tags don't come off this obnoxious and holier-than-thou as they do.
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Re: the selling meth part, yeah I remember this one Logan fan who in response to a Jess fan that was talking about his development in season 6, said something like "well we don't exactly know what he was doing in season 5, for all we know he may have been selling meth in New York to young kids". I think that same person wrote this weird fic where they have Jess be pushed around by the townspeople of Stars Hollow and Mrs Kim ends up punching him? Some Logan fans in particular are So Weird with their hatred towards him, like I can understand hating him as a character, but to obsess over him to the point where you write fanfiction about him getting physically beaten is bizarre.
The part about "Logan having a rough childhood" excuse is hysterical to me because the same excuses they give Logan actually count for Jess more than him. Jess had a rougher childhood, he was thrown out by his own mother and taken to his uncle whom he had never had a proper familial relationship with purely because his mother didn't want to deal with him anymore. By season 3 Jess ended up begging his father for a place to sleep because he was homeless. Logan never had to worry about any of that, regardless of how neglectful Mitchum is towards him as a father. The same goes for the "first relationship" excuse, like Rory also seemed to be Jess's first serious relationship too yet Jess knew that he didn't want Rory to cheat on him with Dean unless she was clearly broken up with him, and when that happened he broke up with Shane before pursuing anything with Rory? Logan frankly gets no excuse for not knowing the simple rules on how to not cheat or at least not lie about not cheating.
That is such an unhinged theory and itās not even grounded in reality. We have no evidence that Jess would ever do that, why the hell did their mind jump to that? Jess has seen first hand what substance abuse does to a person (Liz), why would he want kids to go through that?
Also Jess was always respectful to Mrs. Kim as well so that makes literally no sense. He was also friendly with Lane, too.
Logan stans will make a million excuses for him and then offer Jess absolutely no grace at all. They will simultaneously say things like, āLogan had a rough childhood, itās not his fault heās rude š„ŗā and also, āJess having a bad childhood doesnāt excuse his actions.ā Pick an argument and stick to it, you canāt pick and choose when your logic applies to things.
āLogan had never had a relationship before therefore he didnāt know not to cheat,ā cannot coexist with, āJess shouldāve been able to communicate better and treat Rory better even if heād never been in a serious relationship.ā
#jess mariano#rory gilmore#anti logan huntzberger#gilmore girls#lorelai gilmore#luke danes#stars hollow#literati#liz danes#rory x jess#logan huntzberger
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When You Know - Chapter Nine
Pairing: Daddy!Mechanic!Dean Winchester x F!Reader
Word Count: 3854
Summary: Dean Winchester is a family man. He is happily married, living with his wife and their only daughter; Adeline. They are his entire world. So when his little girl comes bursting through the door unhappy, and convinced she will never find love again, his reassurance inadvertently takes them both on a trip down his memory lane. All in a bid to convince her that when itās real, youāll know.
Rating: 18+
Warnings:Ā Fluff, literally tooth rotting fluff, daddy dean and daughter cuteness, playful times, more serious relationship times. [SPOILERS] TW: Pregnancy.
A/N: Just another load of fluffy fluffness for January. I hope you enjoy this latest add! I also want to say a massive thank you to my wonderful @deanwanddamonsāā for being my wonderful beta, and for kicking my ass where needed. __________________________
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A high pitched squeal sounded from the side of Dean and he had to playfully cover his ears. His daughter was wearing a wide grin as he beamed at her father, the popcorn between them long forgotten as she hung off of his every word. He had to admit, he was still proud of his proposal to this day and wouldnāt change a thing about it. In his mind, it wasnāt over the top romantic or extravagant, it just felt right for him. The bookstore was a special place in both of their lives, and even after their engagement, it was still a location that was the source of many more happy memories. Ones that he had not yet shared with Adeline, and he would, but only if she wanted to hear them of course.
āDad, seriously, that proposal was everything,ā she spoke excitedly, her cheeks a little red from how hard she had been smiling. āI never thought in a million years that it would have been something like that.ā
āWhat did you expect?ā Dean chuckled, genuinely curious at what Addy had running through her head.
āLike you might have taken her back to the Italian place where you got to know where or that you did it here, in the house,ā she explained, her happy expression never wavering as she looked into her fathers eyes.
āTo be honest, if your motherās store hadnāt been such a pivotal part of our relationship, who knows where it might have been. Or even if our story would have played out the same. Everything happens for a reason, kiddo,ā he said with sincerity, reaching his hand into the popcorn bowl to grab a good amount. āAlthough I will admit, your mom did make a quip about how she was glad I hadnāt set fire to the books.ā
Adeline laughed, her head thrown back against the arm of the sofa as she looked up to the ceiling, āYeah, that sounds like her alright.ā
āShe actually went around and blew the candles out not too long after she said yes, worried that something would happen,ā Dean added, joining in with his daughter's merriment as he popped some of the sweet treat into his mouth. āEvery now and again sheāll bring it up and remind me to keep all works of fiction away from an open flame.ā
That made Addy laugh even harder, her sandy hair shaking due to the way her shoulders were moving with her joy. He knew it was because what he had explained was something she had witnessed on quite a few occasions. Whether Dean was trying to light the ones at the dinner table, or around the living room at Christmas time, Y/N was always quick to come out with a quip that had him playfully rolling his eyes. He wouldnāt change it though, because it was part of the story that made them them.
Eventually, the laughter died down and Adeline moved herself around on the sofa, reaching forward to grab the can of soda from the coffee table and placing her other hand in the bowl full of popcorn next to her. Dean could see that she was thinking, her green eyes glancing around the room and they stopped on the picture of him and his wife on their wedding day. It was one of his favorite photos, Y/N smiling at him as he dipped her slightly, her veil floating on the gentle breeze that was present that day. The photographer had captured them perfectly.
āSo, Ā I know you got married in September, but did it take you long to plan it?ā his daughter queried, looking over to her right at her father before she took a long swig from the can in her grasp.
āNot really.ā Dean shook his head, his fingers coming to scratch at his stubble as he thought back to that time. āYour grandparents gave us some money they had saved for us and so did your other Nanna. Then, topped with our own funds, we managed to get married the following year.ā
They were lucky, incredibly so, and it was something he wouldnāt forget for the rest of his days. They never asked for a single penny, but once they had agreed on a set date, his parents had presented him with a check and so had his mother-in-law. It meant that they could still work on their home and neither of them had to work themselves into the ground; he would forever be grateful for that and it was something he and Y/N was doing for Addy, although she was completely unaware. He wanted her to feel the same relief that they had when her time came.
āWhat was it like, were you nervous?ā Adeleine enquired, causing him to be pulled out of his wandering thoughts.
āThe wedding day?ā he asked, and she nodded, leaning back into her seat, her knees up against her chest as she slowly placed pieces of popcorn into her mouth. āYeah, I was a little bit, but your mom planned it all perfectly. We got hitched in this rustic little venue called The Ashes not too far out of town. It sat on some country land, and we exchanged our vows inside a renovated barn. It was beautiful, exactly how we wanted it.ā
āFrom the pictures Iāve seen, like that oneāā she pointed towards the photo that her eyes had landed on earlier, ā--it looked really pretty.ā
āIt was,ā he agreed, a grin starting to appear on his features as he stared at the frame. āWhen the doors opened and your mom walked down the aisle towards me, I swear my heart stopped. She was just so radiant.ā
āDid you cry?ā The question was laced with a playful tease, her elbow nudging his side a little as she leaned over and Dean let a low rumble escape his chest.
āNoāā he shook his head, glancing back at his daughter, ā-- but I did have tears in my eyes. It wasnāt until much later that I got emotional.ā
It was the truth. There were a few occasions where he felt a lump in his throat; saying I do, his brother's speech, seeing her so happy. The list was honestly endless, but the moment that had a tear falling from his eye wasnāt until they were alone in their cabin, Ā just the two of them. He was sure that Y/N must have told Adeleine this piece of information, knowing that there was no way in hell that this story hadnāt come up in the twenty years of her existence, but he went along with it; just in case.
āWhat at? Your vows? The speech? The first dance?ā Addy pushed, her hand going straight back into the popcorn bowl as she looked at him with excitement. It reminded him of the times when she was a little girl and either he or Y/N would read to her the stories of princesses and daring sword fights. Whenever they finished a chapter, it was always met with that same look, the one that pleaded with them to continue and to not end it there.
āOh they were emotional, but no,ā he started to explain, clearing his throat a little as the moment he was thinking of still got him choked up. āIt was after we left the party to go to our room.ā
āWhy?ā she pressed, a little frown pulling at her brows as she gently continued. āWhat happened?ā
āWellā¦ā
September 17th, 2005
It was a Saturday, and the night was clear, the weather slightly cool as the newlyweds walked the grounds of The Ashes. The sound of music blaring from the speakers of the venue hall was bleeding out into the silence of the grounds, the hum of the beat only giving a faint recognition of what track could be playing. Above them, the stars twinkled against their dark blue bed, the moon casting a pearl glow over the couple as they strolled lazily, hand in hand, towards the cabin they would share on their first night as husband and wife.
In Y/Nās other hand were her heels, her fingers hooked through the straps as she carried them, her feet too sore from standing in them for most of the day. She had been quite happy towards the end of the night to dance barefoot, not paying any mind to the carpeted floor beneath her. Yet, when she realised she had to walk outside to get to their accommodation for the evening, she realised she needed to put them back on. With a whine of discontent, she analysed the distance and basically threw caution into the wind and opted to stay āshoe freeā but that was something Dean wouldnāt allow, fearing she might cut her soles and get hurt. So, being the gentleman his mother had raised him to be, he firstly offered her a piggyback, but once she declined, the next best thing was to offer her his brogues. She looked at him like he had just offered her the moon, tears in her eyes at the gesture. He didnāt wait for her to say yes. Instead, he just slipped them off to reveal his black socks before helping his wife to step into them. The mechanic wasnāt too phased about walking on the stones, knowing that his skin was somewhat protected and that it hadnāt rained for a few days; he was just happy that his girl wasnāt in pain.
āI canāt believe youāre Mrs Winchester now,ā he spoke softly out into the night air, his smile as warm as his heart as he looked down to the woman that was next to him, the sequins on her white dress twinkling when they caught the light just right.
āMe either,ā she beamed, turning to gaze up at him, her lace veil resting softly against her silk like hair. Dean wanted to capture that moment and store it in his memory forever. The way she looked; she was so radiant, so elegant, so undeniably perfect that he had to pinch himself just to ensure that this was still all real, that he wasnāt dreaming. He was convinced he was going to wake up in his old apartment, his annoying alarm blaring at him to get up and start another day's work. But that rude interruption didnāt come, she was still there, and he had never felt so happy.
āYou look so beautiful,ā he admitted, stepping back slightly to take in what she was wearing once again. Her chosen attire wasnāt too over the top, it was just like her. It fitted her body flawlessly, the sweetheart neckline giving him a peak of what was underneath, the locket he had bought her their first christmas resting against her chest, while the train behind her wasnāt too long. Ā āI never want you to take this dress off.ā
āYou sure about that?ā she smiled coyly, her teeth coming to bite into the corner of her lip and his eyebrows automatically hit his hairline.
āWell, no,ā he breathed, his own grin pulling at his cheeks as he thought about exactly what he wanted to do to her in the privacy of their own room. But still, a compliment was a compliment and by the way she was looking at him, with color in her cheeks and a knowing look in her eye, he knew that she appreciated it.
āToday has been perfect,ā Y/N spoke softly, the side of her head coming to rest against his arm as they walked. āThank you,ā
To this, Dean was confused. She was the one that had planned the majority of the day, she was the one that had crossed the Tās and dotted the Iās. āWhat for, sweetheart?ā
āThe most wonderful wedding,ā she sighed contently, watching as her dress flowed easily over the stones below her with each step she took in his brogues. āFor putting up with my worries, my doubts, my obsessive need to have everything how I had envisioned it.ā
To that, he stopped them from walking and turned to face her, his finger reaching up to tuck away some of the free stray hairs that had fallen in front of her face. āMost of this was you. All I did was show up in my suit, write a killer speech and wait at the end of the aisle. I love you, Y/N,ā he told her with sincerity, dipping his head to kiss the end of her nose. āAlways will, even if you break down in tears when the florist doesn't have the right colored lilies.ā
āUgh, see that makes me sound crazy!ā she scoffed, playfully slapping his shirt covered chest as he turned around, starting to walk once again in the direction of their room.
āNo, not crazy,ā he chuckled low, smiling when he saw their cabin was in sight. āYou just wanted our day to be what it has been. Flawless,ā
āYou make everything sound so much better,ā Y/N professed, a little whine in her tone before masking it with a small laugh.
āWell, itās my job as a husband.ā Deanās reply was smooth, and he knew it but his girl didnāt seem to mind. In fact, she only held onto him tighter, a genuine grin pulling at her lips as they reached their destination.
āI like the sound of that.ā On wavering tiptoes, she kissed his cheek as he fumbled about in his pocket for the key to their door.
Once located, it didnāt take him long to open up the barrier and hold out his arms to wait for his wife. Of course, she looked at him questionably but when he told her it was tradition to be carried over the threshold, she just threw her head back in amused laughter. Yet, she did as she was told. She positioned herself just right, his strong hands hooking themselves around her body before he hoisted her up and close to him, and walked through the open entrance. They both fumbled as they attempted to find the lightswitch, Y/N reaching out for the wall and blindly stumbling in the dark until they located the small gold switch that brought them the glow that would highlight that path. With a quick flick, the room was illuminated and Dean moved forward to place her delicately on the bed.
He took that moment to just look at her as she leaned back on the mattress, her veil spread out onto the covers, her dress still hugging her frame. He didn't have any idea on how he had become this lucky, how this beautiful woman in front of him was now his wife. Ā The mechanic kept thinking that maybe, in a previous life, he must have done something so wonderful to be worthy of her love, because in this one, he couldn't fathom what on earth he had done to deserve her. Three years she had been by his side; being his greatest supporter, giving him the confidence to believe in his own goals and achievements, making him feel as though he could do absolutely anything. And now, he had sworn that for the rest of his days on this earth, he would be the one to protect her, to love her and to give her a life that was the best that he could offer.
He kneeled down and helped her kick off his brogues, a little joyous laugh escaping her as she did, before he placed them neatly against the side table, thinking about how he would give up anything of his to ensure that Y/N was comfortable and happy for as long as they were together. It was then that he was reminded of the present heād had custom made for this day, and he thought that now was the perfect time to present her with it. So, turning in his spot, he briefly glanced around the room and hoped that his best man, Sam, had placed the item in an obvious space. Thankfully, his brother had done just that, and left it resting against the wall next to the dresser, the red bow bright even in the romantically lit space.
āNow I know that tradition states that weāre meant to give gifts on the morning of the day but I wanted to do it now,ā Dean spoke softly, his low timbre resonating throughout the room as he walked over and picked the item up, his hands firmly grasped around the long rectangle, before he handed it over to his wife, sitting down softly next to her. She looked at him in awe, her face full of gratitude as she slowly started to undo the wrapping.
When the paper had been peeled aside, a small gasp passed her lips and she realised just what she was looking at. There, in her grasp, was the chart of the stars for the exact time and location of their first kiss, their engagement and their wedding. He had often found her in their backyard, looking up to the small flickering balls of light and she had expressed a few times just how beautiful she thought they were, so when he saw an advertisement for this, he knew it would be the perfect gift to purchase for her.
āDean this isā¦ā she started, her eyes welling up with tears as she glanced over the constellations, āI love it so much, thank you.ā She brought it into her chest before she leaned over and placed a soft kiss to his lips, catching him slightly off guard before she pulled back, once again looking at the item in her hands. āThis is going in our hall, right next to the living room door.ā
āItās notāā he started, worrying that maybe he hadnāt done enough, the small little insecure niggle eating away at his thoughts and presenting him with a cloud of doubt but his wife was quick to interrupt.
ā--itās perfect, and really thoughtful.ā Her forefinger rested upon his mouth and he couldnāt help but press a small kiss against the skin. Ā āI have something for you too.ā
Dean didnāt have time to respond before she was standing, her veil slowly sliding off the mattress as it followed her around to her side of the bed. It was there that she opened her small overnight case that Jess had positioned so conveniently, the sound of the zipper echoing around the space as his wife searched around for whatever it was she was looking for.
āYou didnāt have to get me anything,ā the mechanic mumbled, already feeling his heart swell at the idea that she had been thinking of him too. It was silly, really. Having been together for over three years, any other man would have been used to this by now, but not Dean. No, he was still overwhelmed with every single small gesture from this amazing soul he had just married.
āWell, consider this a surprise then,ā she chuckled softly before standing straight, a small rectangle box clutched in her grasp.
She quickly made her way back to him, passing over the gift before she sat enthusiastically next to him, her cheek resting against his shoulder. There was a rainbow colored ribbon wrapped around the black container, and he softly pulled at it with his fingers, watching as the material knot delicately came undone. With a small flip in his stomach, and with a firm hold on the item, he lifted the lid to reveal a beautiful, brand new Suunto watch.
āY/N,ā he breathed, his fingers caressing the glass as he looked down at it with awe. He couldnāt believe she had spent the money on him for this. It was one of the more expensive models, one he had been looking at getting for a while but put off because of funds for the wedding and the house.
āTake it out,ā she whispered into his ear, and he gladly followed Ā her instruction, wanting to pop it onto his wrist as soon as possible.
Yet, once his fingers had wrapped around the strap, he noticed something white resting underneath and a small frown etched into his brow. Quickly pulling the watch aside, he could have sworn he had forgotten how to take in air, his heart stopping for a few seconds as a new reality dawned on him. There, resting in the foam of the rectangle box Y/N had given him, was a positive pregnancy test.
āW-wha-ar-are youā¦ā Dean stammered, not able to string together a sentence as he looked over to his wife, with wide green-eyes. Come on, brain! Words, use them!
āUh huh,ā she grinned, her smile pulling her lips wide as she leaned back a little.
They had talked about having children all the time, and it was something that they both definitely planned on doing but of course, not this early. They had always been careful, even at the times when they were both very much distracted by the lust filled haze that descended over the pair of them. But now he was staring at that little positive word, he knew in his heart, he wouldnāt change it for the world.
āWh-when? I mean h-how?ā he continued to stutter, his mind finally catching up as the shock dissipated just a little.
āI took it yesterday morning, and the how I donāt think I need to explain,ā she chuckled, her hand absentmindedly coming to rest on her stomach. Ā āI think I caught the night we spent downstairs in front of the fire.ā
His eyes landed on her fingers, the way they were so delicately already rubbing back and forth; he couldnāt stop the tears that formed. Almost immediately, he fell to his knees in front of her, the box forgotten as his large palms covered hers on her tummy. He craned his neck to catch her lips in a sweet and loving kiss, one that was a fumble because he was just so overwhelmed with love and emotion to think straight. He was going to be a dad, he had created a life inside of the woman who held his entire heart. He remembered the night she was talking about, and it was the one where the condom had split but they paid it no mind, thinking it had happened when Dean was cleaning up. Obviously not.
āI love you so much,ā he spoke endearingly, his words laced with all the sentiment he could muster. It was then, however, that he panicked and pulled back, not wanting to cause the baby and his wife any stress through this current position. Ā Thatās when he turned his attention to her stomach, his nose nudging the lace before he placed a soft and gentle kiss there. āAnd this little one in here, weāll give them the best life possible.ā
āAre you ready for this next adventure?ā Y/N asked him, her hands carding through his hair as she looked down at her husband, his focus still on the non existent bump under her dress.
āWith you, Iām ready for anything.ā
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Cas&Dean VS Claire&Jack
So I wroteĀ [a small little theory]Ā a while ago as to why I think Claire and Jack wouldnāt have been shown on screen together/have any connection throughout the show on-screen/off-screen at all. And so here I will some points as to why I think that is.Ā
AKA hereās the long awaited essay/conspiracy theory yāall have been asking for.
First of all; let me start off by saying this is 100% meant as a joke (no itās not) and itās not to be taken seriously (yes it is) as itās literally just a dumb theory (it definitely isnāt). And second; fuck the C*W for contributing to every little bit of tinhatting this fandom (especially us hellers) has succumbed to.
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Now; for this theory we have to understand a few things:
How Dean and Cas work as individuals
How Claire and Jack work as individuals
How Dean and Cas work as a duo
Letās start with the first two things.
How Dean and Cas work as individuals
Dean Winchester is a masculine, tough but loving hunter. HeĀ cultivates a ābad-boy personalityā, and makes sarcastic jokes at even the most morbid times. Underneath, though, he's become hardened by life as a warrior (as Daddyās blunt instrument, if you will). Heās been taught to fight his fatherās battles, and protect the ones he loves and cares for. But soon began to see that neither of his parents (especially his dad) did the job they were given when they had children. He didnāt just have to be a brother; he had to be a father and mother. Heās had to grow walls around him to stay strong for his little brother, but over time, after making a family for himself, it became easier to tear those walls down. However, he has his weak spots and is an emotional and loving human being through and through.
Castiel, the Angel of Thursday, is an angel of the Lord. Heās lived for aeons, and as an angel has (just like Dean) been taught to fight the battles of his creator and father. Heās a warrior, and heās been given the job to follow the orders of said creator. Only for those orders to be thrown out the window once he meets Dean Winchester. The man who showed him that hate and anger isnāt always the true answer and that you can choose to be good. Everything that he has been taught slowly breaks away as his hard exterior crumbles, and he develops into a being with emotions, as he slowly but eventually learns to love and care for this man, and with that; humanity.
How Claire and Jack work as individuals
Claire Novak, a woman who has lead a tragic life, where she lost both her parents early on. Her father said yes to be the (permanent) vessel of an Angel, and her mother just disappeared after dropping her off to her Grandmother. After the grandmother had passed away, she was left alone. She had to fight through the world on her own, as she put a wall around herself to make herself stronger for the people around her. It took a while before she found her place in a loving family filled with strong women, who didnāt just help bring her walls down, but build a home instead.
Jack Kline is an innocent, naive but loving Nephilim. The son of the human Kelly Kline and the archangel Lucifer. He was destined for evil, as a Nephilim is one of the most powerful creatures in existence. But, with the help of his three Godfathers (heh), he learns that he doesnāt have to be evil. He can be whatever he wants to be. Controlling his powers has been hard, but no matter what happened, his mindset never changed as he grew to love the people and love the things around him. His biological father saw his power, but his chosen father saw his kind soul. Castiel believed he could create paradise, and he did, as he became the God that the universe deserved.
There are alot of parallels between Dean/Claire and Jack/Cas that can be compared to here. Let me show you a few:
So weāve established that with Claire being Dean-coded, and Jack being Cas-coded, there couldāve definitely been potential for a cute Claire/Jack dynamic in the show. Why wouldnāt they have done that, you think? Perhaps this question can be answered when we look at thing number 3:
How Dean and Cas work as a duo
Destiel is the relationship between the hunter Dean and the angel Castiel. Castiel was ordered by God to free him from Hell, and afterwards he was supposed to do as he was told while Dean was supposed to figure out how toĀ āstop the apocalypseā which happened to be a bunch of garbo afterwards knowing what we know now. Nonetheless, Castiel didnāt listen, as he quickly grew fond of the hunter and, because of him, developed a sense of emotion and free will. This lead to Castiel helping Dean throughout the Apocalypse, and beyond, and theyāve been best friends ever since.
There have been MULTIPLE essays on Tumblr about how this relationship works, and it would be silly of me to try and summarize stuff that hasnāt been said a million times already. But basically; What they have is quite a bit more than best friendship. It has been confirmed in 15x18, Despair, that Castiel has been in love with Dean for quite some time, as Deanās own feelings are kind of all over the place. Nothing has been confirmed, yet nothing has been denied. But, seeing as all the insane things Dean has done for/because of/regarding Castiel... for instance:
defended his behavior to his brother and father when neither trusted him in season 6
kept his trenchcoat when he ādiedā in season 7, and keeping it with him in the trunk of his car(s) for the entirety of Castielās absence.
absolutely despises angels, and hates praying, yet he only ever prays to Castiel when he needs anything because heās the only one he trusts
couldnāt get his mind of of him when he was possessed by Lucifer, and later taken by Amara in season 11
Has Castiel being referred to as his Colette by Cain (subtext but not really subtext because it was so incredibly obvious)
was supposed to be completely enamored by Amara and was supposed to be so hypnotizingly attracted to her that he couldnāt focus on anything else, yet he called out for Castielās name when it came down to it (aka the equivalent of calling out someone elseās name during sex)Ā
keeps looking at him like that
acted like a grieving widow when Castiel died in season 13
gets down on his knees to pray to, cry for and apologize to Castiel in Purgatory when thereās millions of creatures hunting his ass
...itās easy to say that this is more than just aĀ ābrotherly friendshipā between the two. There is dialogue that would NOT have worked between Sam/Cas because it wouldāve felt weird. I wonder why.
So now to get back on topic; why is it that weāve never seen Claire and Jack on screen together?
Is it because the writers didnāt have time to put them together in any given scenario whatsoever? Is it because the writers didnāt care enough for Claire to give her some more airtime with the boys?Ā
Or is it perhaps that if there was a possibility that theyād be on screen together, that theyād have a very similar (if not the same) connection to one another as Dean and Cas, only written as an actual little brother/big sister friendship dynamic?
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So yes, TL;DR: the actual reason that Claire and Jack never met is because they wouldāve had the exact same dynamic as Dean and Cas, but in this case platonic. Which wouldāve meant that the audience wouldāve seen a clear difference between the Dean/Cas dynamic and Claire/Jack dynamic, and it wouldāve shown that the way theyāve been writing and directing the Dean/Cas scenes is romantic.
thank you very much, and I bid thee a very good night. <3
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supernatural sees women as a tool for development and strengthening of narratives/motivation and dean sees his body as a tool. is that anything?
When I saw this ask I really made the š„“in real life. So, yeah anon, I do think thereās something to this.
Quick Disclaimer before I actually launch into my thoughtsā¢: A lot of my read of Dean stems from my experience as both an oldest daughter and a transman. Being the oldest daughter was an experience I lived for many years, but I am also a man. I wasnāt raised as a man, I wasnāt socialized as a man, and even though once I came out upon reflection my masculinity was obviously there. Like I was a manā¢ before I knew I was a man. Even when I actively tied my identity to femininity for a long time! A lot of my prideful moments were based around statements like: āI was the only girl who (fill in the blank).āĀ
So I am just putting that out there before I launch into my spiel about Dean/Gender/Tool because they all interlock for me.Ā
I am also going to apologize in advance because I know this has fully gone off the rails and Iām not even done writing it yet. If this is incomprehensible ! Well, happens to the best of us.
First off, most importantly I guess before we discuss womanhood and Dean and the way both are utilized on the show I need to say that I personally donāt subscribe the whole Dean is female coded thing.Ā
Itās a read I can absolutely understand. But for me..heās not.Ā
Heās a hypermasculine man to the point that when (and because he is written as a punchline, as the stupidā¢ brother, as the whoreā¢, as the mother/fatherā¢, as daddyās blunt instrumentā¢, etc) Dean deviates from the pre-accepted definition of hypermasculine itās Wrong.Ā
Itās Instantly Feminine.Ā
I think the internet has made the world very black and white, or blue and pink maybe. This point, I think, colors a lot of these discussions. Dean cooks, he cleans and so therefor heās female coded. When that really just feeds back into the whole toxic masculinity loop. You canāt be masculine and cook and clean and cry. Thatās for feminine people only.Ā
I get the argument! I do, I just think that Deanās actions are not inherently feminine, itās just in the vacuum of Female and in the Absence of Traditional Masculinity it makes sense to assign him female coded and move on.
IN FACT the way that Dean is the action hero of the show, the Masculineā¢ one on the show - but he cries, and he rages, and he cooksĀ (AgainĀ andĀ Again) and cleansĀ (AgainĀ andĀ Again). The fact heās macho and confident butĀ he has so little self esteem. Is frankly insane to me. You have this blaze of glory character who is so depressed that they have himĀ kill himself. Twice. In explicitlyĀ āI hate myself, I hate hearing all the things I hate about myself, I want to destroy myselfā ways.Ā
On just a regular olā network show that is just ungodly bad at times. They let their Male Hero cry - all the time (if I linked every example of this the essay would be...longer than it already is, but just take my word for it). Dean tears up and grieves and shows more than just Angry Horny Violentā¢ (he shows plenty of that, donāt get me wrong) but heās Emotional (AgainĀ andĀ AgainĀ andĀ Again). In many different ways!
I mean, beyond even just tearing up, they make their Male Heroā¢ face sexual violence in pretty, uniquely horrifying - and queer! - ways.
Letās make it clear, they did a lot of this unintentionally.Ā
Or they do it as a joke.Ā
Off of dean for a moment to say women are plot devices in this show. I could probably count on one hand female characters who have sincere depth to them that have roles outside of progressing plot, filling a filler episode, and who are still alive. Like even characters such as Charlie who are wholly developed, and interesting, are only remembered/mentioned/utilized to progress plots or fill an episode out - and then she dies. For painā¢ for plotā¢ for no other reason than to traumatize a character.Ā
Which letās also make it clear Deanās trauma is also only used as a plot device (as is Samās but in a different way, and Casā trauma is a whole other barrel of fish weāre not gonna dive into right now). Like wholesale full stop they donāt actually care about what happened to him. Unless itās relevant in an episode.Ā
Oh that boys home he was left at when he was 16 for months? Sure weāll sprinkle that in in the back half of the series. Oh he was covered in bruises and said it was from a hunt (when itās clear contextually they were from his father but saying the fantastical but true is easier than saying the uncomfortable but true). As Dean says though the story became the story, he was sixteen. He just went along with what John said.
We only see Dean ever truly rage at John, by the way, when either Dean is dead (when heās between life and death and he rages at John, right before JohnĀ āapologizesā for traumatizing him, for putting too much on Deanās shoulders, and fucking dying) or John is dead (the Djinn episode where Dean is straightā¢ and John is deadā¢ and he goes to his grave and just yells and rages like he should have to his father in the real world).
Deanās trauma from being both tortured and torturer in hell? Yeah, we donāt talk about that after itās Relevantā¢. Even though itās clear - especially in the demon!dean, mark of cain era, all those years later -Ā Alastair still has his hooks inside of Dean. I stopped watching originally after s8 ended. I was fed up with the show, and with this whole renaissance Iāve been doing a rewatch and Iām into season twelve now and it really has never come up again.Ā
Even when he had the mark of cain and he was tasked with questioning and accused of torturing it wasĀ āthe mark has changed youā and notĀ āyou were victim and victimizer in hell for forty years, which is longer than youāve been alive on earthā (and, was about as long as he wound up living. Which is desperately sad.
Because we talk about Samās desire for aĀ ānormalā life but, DeanĀ wanted outĀ too. He was tired in the first few seasons of this show, he never had a chance to taste freedom (we donāt count the boys home, because that was a different kind of regimented life, and it was a false freedom) the way that Sam did in Flagstaff with Bones or at Stanford with Jessica. Love for Dean is sacrificing, itās putting himself/his happiness/his well-being last.
Because Dean only knows love in the context of violenceĀ (likeĀ allĀ ofĀ these fun examples, for starters)Ā is a phrase that Iāve said a lot both in private chats and on here, and I absolutely think it goes to him being a tool (a blunt instrument, a plot device, so both textually and metatextually) instead of a person. WhichĀ Cas sees Deanās shame/guiltĀ and sees that side of Dean because he touched his soul, and saw more than just the Righteousā¢ man, more than just the tool, he sawĀ A good man, not a machine.Ā
On the other side though you have howĀ ābad guysā view Dean:Ā Desperate, Sloppy, Needy,Ā Deanās holeĀ (Again), which is again so wildly counterintuitive to the story of a Macho Man Heroā¢. Youāre using vocabulary that is both queering him and feminizing (and I know this a meme format, but sincerely it is done in a derogatoryĀ way it is feminizing. Itās breaking him down to bare parts, to a sloppy hole).Ā
My whole rewatch I have been absolutely fascinated by howĀ identityĀ and free willĀ is utilized/conceptualized on this show. Castiel has been my main focus, but Dean and how he is framed by himself and others is...fascinating - and frustrating. The writers inconsistency lends itself not only to this unintentionally queer character, but also one that again is incredibly easily read as a non-traditionally masculine character.
As a feminine character.
This show has so few female characters that of course it had to foist the roles/behaviors/plots that a female character might have onto a male character. Which I think is part of why reading Dean as trans (either transmasc, or transfemme) is so easily done like.Ā Ā
Half of these are shit posts, but you can findĀ transĀ allegories/textual evidence in this showĀ again, again, again,Ā again, and again. And this is unintentional, they donāt want you to look at Dean and see woman, former future or present. Like a lot of these Iām sure are punchlines for them, because women/queer folk are punchlines to them.Ā
Sometimes the only women in an episode are random witnesses who get two sentences of dialogue, and then the main guest character is a man. Who flirts with Dean, and Dean is receptive to it.Ā
They paint themselves into a corner, there are female Rabbi. So easily could Aaron have been a woman instead of a man, but they made the choice to play up the HaHa Dean & Men card.Ā
Because, again, Dean has filled the slot of Womanā¢ of Female Leadā¢ and the flirting wouldāve been straight if Dean was a woman. Itās a plot device, they needed to have the guest character be disarming, be cute, make the main character flustered.Ā
Itās just the main character is a man, because theyāre allergic to women. But they still need those female plots, tools of femininity, to move their show forward. I mean I am a big subscriber to transmasc Jo (no idea if anyone else is with me on this one, but let me explain). Jo is in love with Dean (concept) not Dean (actuality). Which, weāve all had our eggs cracked by someone like that. We were in love with them until we realized we just wanted to be them.
He loved her like a little sister, she loved him like a lost idol. Heās a golden calf and she dies for him, because she believed in him, she was the original character dashed at the altar of the Winchesters.Ā
I fully believe if she had lived and if this show had a crumb of actual good writing Jo could have been a deeply compelling transmasc character. But I also think sheās a fascinating inversion of Dean. Dean is a Masculine Character who subverts Toxic Masculinity, Jo is a Tomboyā¢ sheās not your (if you take it straight, literally and metaphorically) average female love interest. Sheās angry, sheās not soft at all, all edges and corners and thorns. She isnāt helpless, sheās stubborn but not in aĀ āyouāre going to get punished for thisā way. Sheās right when sheās stubborn. Sheās helpful, sheās a martyr.Ā
I could do a whole other essay just on Jo (and Ellen, and Ash, what a fucking trio!) but needless to say Jo was one of the first...plot device feminine tools sacrificed to this show. She was a regular, she was unique, she was an engaging character, and she still died (to progress the plot? no. for man pain? yeah, for like three episodes maybe, and then itās forgotten just like the rest of Deanās trauma, as we mentioned above).Ā
Dean and Women and Love is a very interesting tool used too because. Boy they sure try to make Dean love women and it fails in small ways, and in big,Ā meaningless, failed het domesticityĀ (again) ways. Not to mention whatever Lust (in the form of a woman) having no effectĀ upon him, when they could have used that moment to assert his Masculinity and Heterosexuality. He behaved normally? And...also...whatever the fuck theĀ AdiosĀ thing was!
Like they have these opportunities to make him Traditionally (toxically) Masculine, but make the choice to...not? To soften him. Because itās a tool. Heās their female lead, textually he had to take on the role of mother(/father) to Sam, but...I mean this is a million miles long already. I know, but we absolutely canāt not talk about hisĀ Paternal/MaternalĀ behaviors. (Which appearĀ againĀ andĀ again againĀ andĀ again, outside of his relationship with Sam even/especially). Heās the mother hen, sage, safety net, beacon, homeĀ to so many side characters they meet.
I mean in many ways Jody is also a Dean comparison. Lost her family. Found a new family. She is non-traditionally feminine, but easily flustered and Sillyā¢ (letās just drop the entire sex talk over family dinner scene with Alex and the boys and looking to them for help, even though she was already a mother, and sheās a cop, and a hunter and this confident no nonsense individual.... Sheās not). We are meant to see her as this hard ass, but she makes extra food for the boys to take back to the bunker. Sheās deadly in a fight, but also still easily overwhelmed and put into damsel mode, and she cares so much even in the face of adversity.
Itās also fun to see how Jo | Jody are reflections of Dean at different points of his life. Younger, cocky | Older, settled.
Even when the text tries to tell us that heās not.
When it reminds us that heās violent. That he is his father, even if he says that Sam is more like John (which was reflexive, which was angry because of Adam and how Sam was behaving like Dean in that episode, and yes there are parallels to be drawn between Sam and John, the show barely dives into them). Instead weāre told that Dean isĀ JohnĀ (AgainĀ andĀ AgainĀ andĀ AgainĀ andĀ Again).Ā
So intensely that a fanfictionalized version of the Winchester Gospels makes it an entire fucking musical number.Ā
And yet, despite the texts insistence to make Dean Macho Man Father Rebornā¢ We get this Dean who isĀ sillyĀ (and directly compared/contrasted to the female character in this scene),Ā soft,Ā in heels,Ā nagging, and...Ā SullyĀ (you know Samās imaginary friend who has the same Haircut Dean has, who is a softer, shorter, friendlier, campier, version of Dean who was a replacement For Dean until the real one let Sam back in? That? Sully?) itās hard to take them seriously.Ā
Hell, even when he was A DEMON? What did they do? They had him sing off-key drunken karaoke, they had himĀ doing thisĀ ! Like thatās your hero, unhinged, free to be as bad as he could be, and you put him in a cowboy hat in a romance with the king of hell.Ā
The Female Lead, everyone. Whoās biggestĀ betrayal(s)Ā comes at the hands of his love interest (again, a man even though it was an angel who couldāve taken any vessel! who couldāve been recast, who canonically dies admitting his love to Dean - that one), who he tries so hard to beĀ loyalĀ to.Ā
The contradictions of his character are laughable. He is so emotional, but if he is engaged about his emotions?Ā He shuts down, or heās exasperated about being asked about them. It really is Female Lead/Only Here For The Plot disease, because everything is more important than him. Howās he doing? Doesnāt matter outside of the context of how x character is doing or that y character is dead. Or his emotions only matter if theyāre done in penance.Ā
They also really do frame him as Pretty Boyā¢ in a violent way, or in a derogatory manner. Theyāll give us homoerotic shots like thisĀ or theseĀ and never really acknowledge how these are gay shots. Sorry the gun scene is a a straight up sex scene, the beer sip spilling out over his mouth is oral, the scene where Cas fills up Deanās glass with whisky is also a sex scene, they do this shit on purpose but accidentally queer it up. If Dean was a woman these scenes wouldnāt even matter. Theyād be passing moments, but because he is not just a man but A Manā¢ theyāre insane to see.
Not to mention all of these scenesĀ and all the ones I havenāt linked where Dean dresses up. He performs masculinity, but he performs femininity too. Heās a plot device that is slotted in to whatever role they need. Heās Super Straight Butch Manā¢ but coaches the lesbian on how to successfully flirt with a man. Heās Action Heroā¢ who sits through a montage with the same lesbian and yays and nays her outfits, and enjoys himself.
Fuck he loves dressing up, he feels better in these costumes because performing a character is easier than being himself. Because who is Dean? Heās a tool, both textually and metatextually. It is exactly how the women and because ofĀ the women on the show that Dean is the way that he is. If there was a more steady female presence Dean would not be half as much of a plot device or half as camp/gay/feminine/non-traditionally masculine/queer coded as he is.Ā
In conclusion....
#dean winchester#supernatural#spn meta#spn#gender#anon#replies#messages#my writing#ANYWAYS PHEW okay anon i don't know if i even fully got to your point but i woke up at like 3:30 to this ask and i've been fixated on it#HOPE THIS IS EVEN JUST a little bit coherent#the way i meant for this to talk so much more about transness and eldest daughter syndrome and just FORGOT#oops#oh well
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As a Kite | R.W
TW / mentions of ouid n getting h*gh , Smut, (Oral - female receiving, dirty talk, a lil dominance) other than that fluffy stuffs.
Fair warning this is basically pwp and I'm not ashamed because I am the biggest simp for my boy Ron š I'll probably end up writing the 2nd part as I am a thirsty girl xoxox
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Dragging my feet up the stairs to the Gryffindor commons was like hell after a long morning in the dungeons for potions.
I had a free afternoon, one that was usually spent pestering Ron to indulge in a food adventure or a trip to the astronomy tower to get away from it all. There's nothing that I wouldn't do for my best friend. In the summer before my first year, Ron and I made a promise to always look out for each other, mainly because I was way too scared to roam Hogwarts on my own but also because He had already had the craziest first year he could've imagined. We have been inseparable since, There were never any secrets between us and to him I was an open book.
I knock on the door to the boy's dorm, hearing the giggles of the weasley boys coming from within, after a few moments a glazed eyed Ron opens the door, smile beaming at me from ear to ear. "How're we feeling this afternoon, Ronald?" I ask, the faint smell of we*d hitting my senses as I step into the room, "brilliant thanks, I'm glad you're here," he says, I take a seat on his bed, greeting the twins with a smile, "you boys wouldn't happen to be high at all, would you now?" I laugh, "As a kite, dear Y/N" George speaks, "and Georgie made some if his signature brownies, just for you" Fred adds, handing me a foil packet, which I gladly take.
Getting high with the boys was not too unusual, It's been a smell I'd familiarised myself with during my childhood spent at the Weasley home, at first it was Bill's doing, then the Twins, with Ron, Ginny and I following along soon after. I've been lucky to have a wizarding family like the Weasleys, with Molly taking pity on my mother and sister who were both muggles, offering to step in and handle the wizarding side of things with my father out of the picture - a gesture I could never repay.
Fred and George left Ron's dorm to head back to their own after hours of giggles, deciding to take a not so simple detour through the kitchens to satisfy their newfound hunger. This left Ron and I in the room alone, my fingers running through his soft hair as his head lay in my lap, "If you keep doing that, ill fall asleep..." He hums, causing me to laugh gently, pulling a little at the hairs at the back of his head. He watched my every move, dopey grin still all over his face.
"Bloody hell, I think I'm in love." Ron admits, I roll my eyes, "I know Krum's in the castle, Ronald but you're going to need to win him over with more than that." He sits up, looking at me with all seriousness, before shaking his head, "Not Krum... You. I'm in love with you, Y/N." I freeze for a second, shock is not the word I was looking for, perhaps confusion? Sure Ron was an attractive young lad and he was funny, funnier than the twins (not that I'd tell them that), he was charming, kind, strong, caring and by godric he was perfect, but in love with me? He was everything I needed, he was patient with me, he listened to every worry, he was there on my good days and bad days, yet here i am staring at his lips, wanting nothing more than for him to just kiss me. That was it.
I think I love him too, how blind have I been to not have seen this sooner. "Ron, I-" I smile grabbing his hand that had found its way to my cheek, leaning into his touch. "I love you." I breathe out, looking deep into his eyes.
I found out a lot of things about Ron that night; Number one - Ron is absolutely adorable when he's high.
Number two - Ron is literal putty in my hands as soon as I'm playing with his hair
Number three - Ron was in love with me, and I with him.
And finally, Number four - Ron is not the gentle lover I thought he would be, and I am weak the second he's whispering about all the dirty things he wants to do to me. He is a Rough lover, rougher than I expected.
He liked to take control, pinning me against the sheets, placing kisses to every piece of skin he laid his eyes on. "I can't wait to hear you moan for me, darling" he places a kiss to my forehead before resting his own against it letting go of my wrists to pull me up, hand pressed against the small of my back, "tell me if it's too much, we go as far as you want." I run my hands through his soft hair, pulling him in for a kiss, I could smell the cinnamon, a scent I'd associated with him, his kisses were powerful and spoke a thousand words to me, I pull away from his lips for a moment, trailing kisses to his ear, whispering gently to him. "I want you Ron, I need this, make me feel good..."
That was all it took to send him to overdrive, I fell in love there and then with the way his eyes darkened as we fumbled to undress each other, frantic and needy kisses being pressed against each other's skin. He pushed me back against the bed, kneeling between my thighs, as he hooks his fingers into my underewear, pulling them down my legs, a hunger in his eyes, "fuck, you're already so wet," he hums, "what is it you want first baby, my fingers or my tongue? hm? I don't hear my girl begging for anything, I may have to leave her here, untouched and needy. That sounds like fun..." I roll my eyes, big mistake, his hand grabs my chin, forcing me to look at him, "I don't expect attitude from you so early on." he warns "Beg." he almost growls, fingers ghosting over my thighs, "Use your words and tell me what you want." This side of Ron I'd never seen before and it was unlike anything I'd expect from him, but I need him. "I need your tongue baby, please Ron, I need you." that was all he needed, kisses trailed down my body to between my legs, "Good girl," he smirks, blowing gently on my clit, causing a shiver to run through my body, his tongue already on me before i could register what was going on. His tongue was skilled, licking and sucking at my already wet pussy, It was pure heaven. He pulled my clit between his teeth, sucking on it, which in turn caused me to attach my hands to his soft, gorgeous hair, keeping his lips pressed firmly against me "Don't stop, Ron, It feels so good!" I moan out, my fingers in his hair only egging him on further.
"You have no idea what you do to me," he whispers, kissing his way up my body. The sounds of laughing boys echo through the hall, growing closer and closer to the door. "for fuck's sake," he groans, reaching over to grab his wand quickly locking the door with a spell, before anyone walks in on us "colloportus!" he looks down at me with a smile, pressing a kiss to my forehead as he helps me back into my clothes. "I hope I wasn't being too much, I don't want to scare you off." I laugh, reaching up to smooth down his hair, making it less obvious that my hands had previously been tangled in his gorgeous locks. "Bloody hell, as if you couldn't get any sexier... I don't think you were doing nearly enough" I tease, He smirks, picking me up off the bed and carrying me to the door, "good, because I've hardly even started with you, Princess"
"Ron, mate if you don't open this door ill kill you myself, I'm bloody exhausted." Dean groans from the other side of the door, banging on it a little harder than he had been before "Room of requirement after dinner?" I suggest, he nods, placing me down to my feet, pressing a kiss to my lips to say goodbye, "I don't want to open the door because I'm not finished kissing you yet." I roll my eyes, grabbing my wand to unlock the door again, before swinging it open.
Seamus, Harry and Dean burst into the room, swinging their bags onto their beds, "If it was just Y/N in here I don't see why you had to lock the door," Dean whines, Harry scanning over Ron's face, to his hand which is still gently holding onto mine, "I think we may have been interrupting something here, guys" he speaks, crossing his arms looking between the two of us, cueing me to slip out of the room before there are any more questions "Shove off, Harry" Ron jokes, his eyes following my movements to the door, I poke my head back into the room, "Oi, make sure you save me one of George's brownies for after dinner, don't scoff them all!" I smile at the boys innocently, "I will do, Ba-Y/N" Ron quickly corrects himself, nobody catching onto his slip up, "Don't have too much fun without me!" I laugh, Ron responding quickly "I wouldn't dream of it."
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The Royal Series | Pt. VII
The Royal Series Masterlist
Sometimes, time ran faster than you could comprehend. A month after your trip to Amsterdam, you were filled to the brim with contentment.
Not only were you happy that you and Harry were official, but somewhere amidst that trip and what followed, a friendship seemed to spark between you and Prince Fred.
Fred was more than meets the eye. He was respectful, funny, and an understand person, and perhaps that all was deeply appreciated but none other than your best friend, Nia, whom Fred had been seeing for a short while after way too many stolen glances, soft teasing, and hushed conversations in Amsterdam, though they were yet to make anything official.
"Y/N, come on," Fred groaned as he sat on your sofa. "I can't possibly take her there."
You rolled your eyes, putting your laptop aside as you crossed your legs and turned his way. "You can't always take her to fancy restaurants, that's boring."
"And I can't also be seen in an amusement park when our families are basically planning our wedding."
You sighed, your shoulders slumping in response.
āAlso, about that, have you told Harry yet?"
You pursed your lips together, shaking your head. "No," you looked at him, "I haven't."
"Y/N..." Fred dragged, leaning his head back.
"I know! I know what you're thinking but I can't tell him anything when he's on tour. Tonight is his last day in the first leg of the tour then he's coming back and won't go back until March. I think I have time." You shrugged. "I have time, don't I?"
"Not for long." He answered, reaching to take the cup of orange juice you poured him. "If he's the right person, he'll stay." Fred reminded you.
"What if he's the right person and he doesn't?" You asked quietly, "How can he, after his girlfriend drops news like that on him?" You rubbed your temple, closing your eyes.
"Have some faith, will you?" Fred said, "Have you told your brothers about him?"
"Not yet. I'm telling them tonight. They're coming over for dinner." You answered him, standing up and stretching your arms over your head.
"What an eventful life." Fred chuckled, unlocking his phone and looking at the screen. "Fuck, I have to leave. I have two hours to get ready for my date."
You cooed, poking his arm. "By the way, Nia will look stunning tonight."
āHow did y-Ah,ā he chuckled, āGroup chat or whatever.ā
"You bet." You pointed at him, "Don't forget. The olive jacket, not the navy blue one."
"Yes, ma'am." Fred nodded, walking towards the door with you behind him. "Have any plans for that breakfast in Buckingham we're having tomorrow?"
"Think we should have fun. Show Ganny that this is the last thing we need." You told him, holding your door knob.
Fred nodded as he looked at you while holding his jacket on his arm. "Seeing Harry tomorrow?"
You grinned, nodding. "I am."
He smiled, leaning down and pressing a chaste kiss on your cheek. "Have fun tonight. I'll see you tomorrow."
"You have fun, too. Take a picture or two and send them to me, yeah?" You wiggled your eyebrows making him laugh. "I'll see you tomorrow, Freddie."
With that, he left.
Right as you closed the door, FaceTime's ringtone came from your laptop. You took long strides towards it, smiling when you saw it was Harry. You instantly accepted the video call, already feeling giddy as it connected.
It only took about 3 seconds before you saw his face, looking tired yet with a heart-warming wide smile, "Hi."
You tilted your head, smiling softly at him, "Hi."
"I'm at the airport," Harry said, flipping the camera to show you what was around him before turning and showing you a group of people, all waving and calling for him. "Was just there with the fans." He informed you before flipping the camera again so you could see his face. "And I miss you."
If you really and literally had butterflies in your stomach, you were pretty sure they were constantly growing in numbers every time you talked to Harry. "I miss you, too. I'm seeing you tomorrow, aren't I?"
"You definitely are. Y-Hang on, baby," his eyes looked away from his phone as he talked to someone else.
Completely oblivious to the tint on your cheeks and the wide grin on your face at the pet name. "Baby." You had whispered quietly to yourself, leaning your head back on the couch.
"Hm?" Harry looked at you, "Did you say anything, love?"
"No," you shook your head. "You just called me something new, that's all."
Harry's eyebrows furrowed and if it weren't for the fact that he was a continent away, you would've kissed that frown away. "I did?"
"You called me baby." You giggled.
The amusement and admiration went both ways because hearing your giggle, seeing you with your hair up in a messy ponytail and glasses on your face, Harry couldn't help but silently admire the way you looked and sounded. You looked effortlessly beautiful; the kind of beautiful he never encountered and the kind of beautiful he never would've thought would call "his.ā "I did, didn't I?" Harry smiled, looking at you through his phone's screen, "You bring out the sap in me."
"I'm not complaining." You shrugged with a soft laugh.
Harry chuckled, looking up from his phone before looking at you again. "I have to go now, love."
"Are you still sure about me not picking you up from the airport?" You asked him.
"We can't risk you getting seen." Harry repeated his words from a couple of days ago, "I'll be all yours at 7 tomorrow."
You sighed, nodding. "Right, I know. You're right. Text me when you land?"
"Of course. I'll see you soon. And because I won't be there tonight, goodnight, baby." He pressed his lips to his front camera, making you break into a smile.
"Goodnight, H." You pressed a kiss to your hand before putting it on your laptop screen. As you both waved, you ended the call.
//
"How's your campaign going, Tiny?" Your brother, Harry, asked before taking a sip of his wine.
"Really well. We reached 3 million just last night." You grinned, watching as everyone erupted in supportive cheers.
"Y/N, that's amazing!" Meghan gasped.
"And it's only going to grow and get better. Good job, Y/N." Kate smiled warmly at you before looking at William.
"I knew you could do it." William said with a grin, "Pa would be so happy for you."
You cringed, "Let's not talk about that part of the family right now," you began, tucking a locket of hair behind your ear, "Especially since I'm telling you something that they won't like."
Your brothers and their partners all broke into serious faces, looking at you intently. Har put his fork down, leaning closer to the table, "Are you okay?"
You nodded instantly, gulping a sip of wine. "I'm okay, great even. It's good news."
"Well say it, I'm shitting myself." Har said, making you laugh.
"Okay, uh," you cleared your throat before looking at them. "You know Harry?" Everyone looked at your brother in confusion, making you roll your eyes. "Not this one."
"Styles?" William asked and you nodded, "Oh, you mean your Romeo. What about him?"
"We're uh," you smiled nervously, putting your hands on the table. "We're together now."
"Like officially?" Meghan asked.
You nodded, "I saw him when I was in Amsterdam with my friends and we made it official."
Meghan awed, standing up and approaching you to wrap her arms around you, "I'm so happy for you!"
You grinned, letting her give you one final squeeze before she sat down beside your brother. "He really seems decent, Y/N. I'm happy for you." Kate grinned at you.
"Thank you, Kate." You smiled back at her before glancing at your brothers who seemed to be in thought. "What?"
"When are we meeting him?" William asked, "Har, you remember a move or two from your military service?"
"Of course, I do. We can learn a few new moves, too. Just to show him that he can't break Tiny's heart." Harry replied back, dramatically hitting his fist against his palm, laughing as you groaned.
"Yup, you're never meeting him." You nodded.
"Aw, come on!" He laughed, "We're just looking out for you."
"Just because I'm a father of two kids and soon third, doesn't mean I'm any less of an older brother to my baby sister." William shrugged at you with a teasing grin.
"You're awful!" You laughed as you all began to stand up from the table.
"Wait," Kate looked at you before laughing in disbelief, "Does that mean he met Fred in Amsterdam? He knows?"
You nodded, "They did. Actually, hereās the funny part. Harry still doesn't really know about the whole thing with Fred."
"Oh shit." Meghan instantly reacted.
You nodded, holding yours and William's plates in your hands as you shook your head with a smile to your two housemaids once they approached to help, giving them a āThanks, we got itā as you walked to the kitchen, your brother Harry behind you with his and Meghan's plates. "Are you going to tell him?"
You put the plates by the sink before leaning on the counter as the rest came to the kitchen, putting plates and cups away. "I am. Tomorrow."
"Noticed you and little Freddie are friends now." William said, fixing the apple magnet on your fridge.
"He's interested in Nia."
"I feel like you're in a teenage drama series." Kate joked.
You laughed, "But seriously, I'm happy with how things are now. I mean, imagine how bad would it be if he wasn't actually interested in someone else? Besides, he's a great person."
"Harry's just greater." Har said before letting out a low groan, "We have to find him a new name."
"Romeo." William said, making you swat him on the arm.
"Romeo it is."
"No!"
//
Standing up and smoothening your black dress, you smiled politely at Fred's parents.
"So good to see you, Your Highness. You have grown to be a beautiful woman." His mother, Lady Gwen, smiled at you as she kissed your cheeks.
"Thank you. You look wonderful." You complimented her with a smile.
"There's the princess! Look at you!" His father, Dean, exclaimed, shaking your hand enthusiastically.
You chuckled, glancing at Fred who rolled his eyes at his parents from behind them. As they both moved to greet your family, you and Fred greeted each other with a firm handshake, both snickering to yourselves. "Hello, Fredrick."
"Hello, Your Highness Princess Y/N. It's wonderful to see you." Fred said, bowing his head.
"How was your date?" You whispered, wide eyed.
Fred grinned, the blush on his cheek not going unnoticed by you. "Amazing."
You let out a low squeal before looking behind you at everyone else settling, "We should sit. Come on."
Taking your seats and sitting after your grandmother sat, everyone chatted quietly.
"Y/N here told me that you had fun in Amsterdam." Your grandmother told Fred, smiling at him.
Fred glanced at you before looking at her and nodding, "We did. Y/N has very nice friends."
"She does," she staggered, "It's only because she's nice herself. When she was young, you could easily mistake her for an angel." She laughed.
Your siblings snickered under their breath, knowing for fact that none of you were angels when you were younger. You had broken way too many ornaments and precious Chinas to be angels.
"What about your older days, Y/N?" Fred smirked, looking at you.
You shrugged in a smug manner, "Not so angelic. What about you, Fred? Are you any angel?"
"Definitely not. I like to relax by listening to heavy metal and attending raves undercover. In fact, I have taken a liking for tattoos. Think maybe I should get a small one," he leaned closer, as if he only wanted to direct his next words to only you, "On my rear." Fred said before leaning back on his chair casually, holding his cup of tea as his parents stared at him in shock, as did the Queen,
"Vulgar." You said under your breath jokingly, causing him to laugh, covering his mouth.
"Scandalous." He whispered.
"Oh honey, you're too humble," Lady Gwen began, looking at her son as she chuckled nervously. "You know, Y/N, Fred here is an amazing polo player, just like you." She grinned, raising her eyebrows.
Ā Giving her a tight smile, you replied. "Oh, I actually stopped playing polo."
Her face fell, glancing at her husband who coughed to stifle his chuckle. "Is that so?" She chuckled reluctantly, "Well but you still play the piano, right? Fred here is excellent when it comes to music. Fred plays piano so well."
"I don't actually. I like playing the cello. Piano is a bit boring for me." Fred replied.
"And I don't always play the piano for everyone. Just a few people get to see and hear me play the piano." You added before steadily eating a berry.
Your eyes caught your grandfather who was laughing as he looked at his cup of English tea. He looked up, giving you a discreet wink before bringing his cup to his lips.
"Remember when you broke that cello Eugenie got for my 21st birthday?" Har asked you, playing along.
You nodded, "God, these instruments are just enormous. Take up too much space."
"Okay," Lady Gwen laughed awkwardly, "Tell us about your Amsterdam trip. It was fun, wasn't it?"
"It was," You nodded, "My favourite part was when we all went to that nude beach."
Your father, Prince Charles, choked on his tea, having Camilla rub his back soothingly. Your brothers, however, weren't discreet as they burst out laughing, your grandmother looking at you in horror.
You casually sipped your tea, looking at Fred, "It was a fun trip, wasn't it?"
//
"It's really cold, isn't it?" You asked one of your personal guards, Sid, hugging your sweater closer to your body as you got out of the car.
"Just like how December should be." He smiled warmly down at you.
"It's our favourite season of the year, Sid." You smiled, remembering how years ago when you were younger, you had a conversation with Sid about how you liked December season and how festive it was, "You can really go the coffeeshop around here or do anything you want."
Andrew nodded at you as they both walked you to Harry's front door, standing at a fair distance. "We'll feel better waiting here."
"If you change your mind, you can text me. I'm just going to stay indoors." You said before ringing Harry's door bell and taking a step back.
"Have a good night, Princess Y/N." Sid tipped his head slightly at you.
"You, too, Sid. And you, too, Andrew."
As soon as you finished your sentence, the door opened to none other than the man you would proudly shout that he was yours. His hair tousled on his head, almost transparent framed eyeglasses fixed on his nose, a grey sweater and black joggers covering him as he stood barefoot. Harry instantly wrapped his arms around your waist, making you squeal as he carried you off of the ground, walking backwards and inside the house, making you wrap your limbs around him as you pressed a kiss to his cheek.
"God, I missed you." He breathed out against your neck, pressing a chaste kiss on your skin before kissing your shoulder. He kicked his door shut after making sure your guards weren't standing there and walked inside his house, with you still wrapped around him.
"Feels like years since I last saw you." You whispered against his shoulder, moving your lips to press a kiss on his sweater clad skin. "You smell nice."
Ā "Yeah?" He smiled, plopping on his couch, with you on his lap. His hands moved to clasp his fingers behind your back to support it, making you lean back to get a better look at him.
You grinned, moving your hands to cup his cheeks, squishing his face so he looked like a fish, making you laugh and Harry to shut his eyes, letting out a muffled "kiss.ā You let his cheeks go, resting your hands on his shoulders and leaning down till your lips were pressed against each other, chest to chest.
It was something that puzzled Harry himself. You see, Harry read all about relationships, the stages and love. He read about women and men and mostly knew about what to say and when to say it (sometimes). He read all about the thumping heartbeats and butterflies. He read all about the stages; infatuation, liking and falling in love. Harry read all about lust and emotional connection. Harry seemed to know what to do and understanding to how he was feeling; he had a plan. But that's the thing. It was never about lists and plans.
You meet someone for the first time and all of the sudden, it's like your heart has been yearning for so long. You see them and you think all about the good the world has to offer ā the good that you want to offer.
You meet someone and all you want to do is write about them; their eyes, their laugh, the crinkle of their nose.
You make lists and plans and it all crumbles when you meet someone. That's the thing about love, the best kind of it is when it's spontaneous. When you have no idea what the fuck you are feeling or when the fuck you began to feel it but fuck, it's going to be the best feeling you've ever felt.
So, with a blanket covering the both of you, Amy Winehouse's vinyl playing and your hushed whispers making you giggle as your head was on Harry's arm as you both lied down on the sofa, it all felt natural and familiar. His hand playing with yours, lacing your fingers together before tracing your palm lines as he told you all about Tokyo. Looking into his face, your lips seemed to have a mind of their own as they pulled up in a faint smile as you watched him talk, green eyes boring into yours.
Without thinking, his hand that was draped from the sofa as you slept on his other arm was raised, beginning to softly stroke your hair as Harry continued talking, seeming oblivious to his actions. You hummed, turning to your side and fully looking at him, your leg on his.
"How do you celebrate Christmas?" He asked gently, looking at you with so much care.
"Well," you lied more comfortably in his arms, "We go to Granny's country home in Norfolk. We open gifts on Christmas Eve then at 5 that day, it's time for tea and all that in the saloon then it's fancy dinner. I usually stay with Will at his place instead of with Granny because it's always too noisy and there's always a commotion there so we leave after dinner," you told him slowly, your palm on his chest as he looked down on you, "On Christmas day, we have breakfast then we attend the church service at St. Mary's Magdalene. At 1, it's turkey time then at 3, we watch granny's speech. It's hectic but nice."
"That's really eventful," Harry admitted, bringing her body closer to his, "When are you usually done with everything?"
"Around 5:30."
"What do you say," he began, his dimple seen as he gave you a cheeky smile, "You spend the rest with me?"
Your eyebrows furrowed but the smile didn't leave your face as you shuffled back a little to have a better look at his face, "Where?"
"Back at my home, in Cheshire." Harry nodded slowly, his hand grazing and tracing your hip.
"With- with your family?" You let out a small laugh of disbelief. Harry grinned and nodded. "You want me to meet your family?" You asked quietly, moving to lie on top of him, making him laugh and lock his arms behind your back.
"It's Christmas. I can't think of a better vibe for a first meeting and I certainly can't wait for next year's Christmas." Harry answered, giving you a shrug.
"Are you sure about this?" You asked him, nuzzling your head in his shoulder as you tried to stifle your grin.
"I'm sure." Harry replied back as quietly.
And because for the rainbow to beautify the world, there has to be rain, your smile faltered. You sighed against his shoulder before pulling away and sitting up, getting somewhat seated on Harry's thighs with your legs on either side of his body.
"What is it?" He asked, frowning. "Does it make you uncomfortable? Because we've been together for a month? I just - I thought that we've known each other for three months now and it has been ama-"
"H," you chuckled, cutting him off. You leaned down, giving his lips a soft peck, "It's not about that. I'm flattered that you want me to meet your family."
"Then what is it?"
You leaned back again and sat, your palms resting his stomach, your eyes traveling to the bit of skin that showed from when his sweater rose up, seeing a hint of his tattoos. "I have to tell you something." You spoke, avoiding his eyes.
"Baby, you're making me nervous." Harry admitted, resting his hands on your thighs.
You gulped, glancing at his eyes for a second before looking back at where your hands rested. "I'm, uh," you stuttered, a deep frown on your face. "You know Fred?"
"Your friend?"
You cleared your throat before nodding slightly, "You know how I'm the only daughter?" You asked him, watching as he nodded, "Well, since I'm the only daughter, my family decided to plan my life ahead. My siblings did what they wanted because, I don't know, they thought of them as hopeless cases I guess but they waited for 11 years for a girl and when I came, they couldn't," you shook your head, "They couldn't have but the best for me. The best for the monarch, So they, uh," you fiddled with your fingers on his stomach, "They arranged a marriage for me."
What?" Harry instantly reacted, pushing himself to lean on his elbows as he looked at you in disbelief. "What does Fre- He's-" He sucked in a breath, "You're arranged to marry Fred?"
You nodded reluctantly, cringing when you heard Harry let out a small chuckle of disbelief.
"So you have your life planned and I'm guessing your firstborn's name and you come into my life because...?" Harry asked in disbelief, the hurt in his tone being clear enough for you to pick up on.
"No, no," you instantly denied, looking at him. "I know it sounds bad but it won't happen."
"It won't happen because you're hoping it wouldn't or it won't happen because you talked to your family and this isn't actually going to happen?" He asked you firmly, looking intently at your eyes.
You gave him no answer first, making him scoff slightly before plopping back on his back, moving his hands to his face as he rubbed it. "Harry, I wasn't lying to you." You said, moving off of him to sit beside him instead.
"You kept this from me, Y/N. Don't you think that this was the first thing I should know? You let me meet him for fuck's sa-What was he doing with you in Amsterdam? What was that?" He looked at you with a frown.
"My grandmother had him come with me as a way to get us to know each other." You replied quietly.
"And you did. Fuck, Y/N, and all these times you told me that you were with Fred, were you practicing your vows? Choosing the table cloth?" He asked sarcastically, making you almost wince.
"No, Harry. I told you the truth. I don't want to be with him. I'm not going to be with him, whatever happens."
"So your entire family must hate me, don't they?"
"They don't," you shook your head, "It's just my grandmother and father, they're still somewhat attempting because they think you're a fling or itās just me rebelling against them."
"Am I? Am I something you're rebelling against them with, Y/N?"
"Of course not!"
Harry sighed, his rings clad hands moving to cover his face. "Is there anything else you're not telling me?"
"My brothers know about you and they want to meet you," you began, "And Fred has been seeing Nia."
"And how is Nia coping?" He asked, looking you, resting his arms beside him in defeat.
"She knows that nothing will happen. That there's no way this marriage will happen." You assured him, "I know it sounds ba-"
"Awful." Harry corrected you with a small chuckle, making you smile sympathetically.
"Awful. But I haven't been lying to you. When I told you that I really like you, I wasn't lying," you shook your head, "When I told you that being with me wasn't easy, I wasn't lying either."
"What about that time you told me that you weren't scared?" He asked gently, one hand reaching to grasp your hand on his stomach.
"I don't want to lose you." Your reply came the second he closed his mouth, determination and sincerity dripping from your words.
Harry sat up, leaning towards you until it was you on your back and him hovering you, "And I don't want to lose you."
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So I watched 10.09 recently, and it has that part where Dean tells a story about him basically being almost roofied as a teen, but somehow it ends up framed as the funny joke and yet another proof that John "did what he could", and I kind of hate this? And it's the same episode in which MoC!Dean killed guys that kidnapped and tried to rape Claire, and you'd think writers would've addressed the parallels and acknowledge that Dean could've been triggered by this situation. 1/2
2/2 But in the end, it's never addressed, and the whole situation is framed as the proof that Dean is evil now. And I'm not even sure what I am trying to say, but with that being the show's approach back in s10, I'm not surprised about the finale anymore. Guess we should've known?
Thatās an excellent angle to look at the issue because the Mark of Cain arc is a clear example of how people with different experiences will see the same thing in wildly different ways. Thereās this phase of season 10 where everyone is like āoh no Dean is Getting Worseā and when you look at what Dean is doing... you actually go ā...good for himā.
Letās give Caesar what belongs to Caesar. Itās not āthe writersā in this case, itās Dabb. Plenty of other writers donāt fall into this John apologism thing. Just look at how the episode before Lebanon, written by Buckner and Ross Leming, says that sometimes John would temporarily kick Dean out because he was āpissed at himā despite Dean always taking his side to mantain the peace. It almost seems like a statement to sprinkle some salt given what Dabb does in Lebanon, you know? Maybe not, but there is a tension between āJohn was shittyā writers and āJohn did his bestā writers.
In hindsight, we gave Dabb too much of the benefit of the doubt. We were like, weeell, thatās supposed to be way the characters perceive the truth, which is distorted by the trauma... But now itās obvious that he truly believed in the John-did-his-best version. He brought him back and got Mary back with him. No matter what happened to the finale, the network didnāt print those pictures of John and Mary to hang on Samās wall. He never took Deanās abuse seriously and it shows.
The āanedocteā of Dean getting drugged and āsavedā by John from being raped is obviously there to parallel him with Claire. Which works! Itās so weird because itās like. You are soooo close to getting the point. Younger Dean was assaulted just like this teenage girl is assaulted and Dean saves her... but apparently John yelling at those people is a good way of dealing with the issue, while murdering child traffickers is an overraction thus bad.
Thatās the problem, isnāt it? That Deanās murder spree is framed as an overreaction. Sam is like ātell me you had to do this! tell me it was you or them!ā - the answer to which (by the narrative) is obviously no, it wasnāt self defense, he just killed them because he could. He just murdered those men for no reason except he felt like being murdery. And the audience is supposed to be like āoh no! Dean is murdery for no reason except for murderiness! Thatās bad!ā.
But itās a power fantasy, isnāt it? Going on a murder spree on rapists and traffickers. I bet any people whoās been violated like that has fantasized of doing the exact thing Dean does here. Killing them all.
Dean had the physical strength and skill to kill them all, why shouldnāt he kill them? (I mean, in real life Iām against private justice because Iām a fan of the state of law, but the Supernatural universe obviously works on different principles than the state of law. Again, itās a fictional narrative that plays out as a fantasy for the audience, so.)
So what was Dabbās intention? Iām afraid itās the worst one. āJohn Winchesterās not going to win any Number One Dad awards, you know? But, you know, damn if he wasnāt there when we needed himā. What the fuck, Dabb? Itās been established since season 1 that John WASNāT there when they needed him. Which... Iām afraid... leads us to the Cas-Claire plot in the episode. Cas has fucked off with Jimmyās body leaving Claire on her own. Parallels how John wasnāt going to win wny Number One Dad awards. But! Cas is there when Claire Really Needs Him i.e. when sheās about to be raped by older men. Parallels how John was there when Dean Really Needed Him i.e. when he was about to be raped by older men.
I think the point is to say, Cas kinda sucked because he took Claireās dad away but hey! Heās actually a good figure for Claire because he gets there in time to prevent her from being raped. Just like (ew) John kinda sucked as a father because hunting and stuff, but hey! Heās actually a good figure for Dean because he got there in time to prevent him from being raped.
Itās pretty yucky. Literally NOBODY wanted a parallel between Cas and John. But he made one. And he made one to absolve Cas from the guilt he carried for what he did to Claire (Claireās mother is a mother so who fucking cares about her. Sheās basically a Blurry Wife(TM), sheās only a tool for Claireās arc, Cas apparently only cares about the harm he did the child, not the wife, for some reason.) and to absolve Cas from his guilt it absolves John too. Donāt worry, being a parent is hard. You often screw up. But you can *looks at smudged writing on hand* prevent the kid from being raped by predatory adults and everythingās fine now.
Itās not really important if the child suffered hunger or whatever, the only important thing is that they donāt get raped, because thatās bad, everything else is just a little detail.
All Dabb got with that scene was to paint Sam as extremely unsympathetic because heās no longer a child, heās a full adult now and still thinks of that episode at the CBGB as a funny story. Thatās not a good look. It almost makes you think that the writer himself saw it as a funny story. Lol teenage boy biting more than he can chew. But then why the Claire parallel? The Claire scene onviously is not supposed to be anything but horrific. I'll give Dabb the benefit of the doubt on this specific thing.
Itās weird, yes, because Dabb wrote Dark Side of the Moon where he establishes that John was a bad husband/father even before tragedy hit the family. But apparently thatās the ānot going to win any Number One Dad awardsā part, I suppose? I guess he intended to write John as this flawed, ~complex~ figure who was imperfect but still brave and whatever blah blah did his best blah blah. Iām all for flawed complicated characters but a horrible father is a horrible father. A rose by any other name... parental abuse is still parental abuse even if the poor guy was complicated and traumatized and did what he thought he had to do to prepare his sons for a violent world.
Also, the story frames Deanās escapade as a teenager being stupid. āYou know what he got for that? Me whining about how much he embarrassed me. Me telling him that I hated him. But then he stopped and turned around looked at me and said, Son, you donāt like me? Thatās fine. Itās not my job to be liked.ā āItās my job to raise you right.ā This seems straight from a novel about teenagers doing something stupid that theyāre too young to realize that their parents are right to be against them doing. But this isnāt just... a parent walking into a bar to stop their child to drink alcohol. Dean literally describes feeling sick from something that was inside the alcohol.
Sure, it makes sense that heād lash out to John because of the shame and shock. But the scene is... off. Are we supposed to see this as a typical teenage mistake? Are we supposed to read it as something as horrific as what happened to Claire, literally sold into rape? Or, worse, are we supposed to see what happened to Claire as a teenage mistake, ah silly teenager, blindly trusting shady people, no wonder you end up in a situation where youād get raped if a father figure didnāt sweep in and save you. I hope that wasnāt the intent.
To get back to Deanās Mark-of-Cain violence, the writers clearly didnāt intend it to come from the Darkness up to a certain point. It was supposed to an arc about your own inner darkness (consider the Charlie episode, a couple episodes later). Then they came up with the idea of The(TM) Darkness, the suppressed cosmic feminine. While it caused a bit of dissonance in the subtext, it doesnāt really change Deanās narrative, because his inner darkness is the trauma, and his trauma is inherebtly tied to the āfeminineā i.e. the parts of him that donāt fit seamlessly into the scheme of toxic masculinity values. That the violence that comes from the Mark of Cain comes from Dean himself and thatās it, or is connected to the Darkness, it doesnāt change what it means for Dean. Dean and Amara have parallel histories, the feminine principle locked away, the trauma the anger stems from.
In 10x09 weāre still in the Before The (TM) Darkness era, before the suppressed cosmic feminine. The Mark of Cain arc is still about... well, Cain. But the shift is the signal that someone looked at Deanās arc and said... you know what? āLucifer gave me this curse so now Iām demonic and murderyā is meh. āToxic masculinity suppresses the feminine and it creates trauma which rage and violence comes fromā is more interesting. I donāt know whose idea it was, but it was a good idea, and surely the idea came from seeing how Deanās MoC narrative was unfolding.
Deanās MoC narrative was unfolding in a certain way, in fact, because of a pretty simple reason. Thereās a fundamental tension in Deanās MoC arc. We want him to go murdery, but itās also our main character, so we donāt want him to do really horrible things because he still needs to be relatable. The audience cannot hate him, so he must NOT do something entirely unforgivable. He still needs to be somewhat relatable, even when demonic or demonic-adjacent.
So he goes on a murder spree... but itās rapists and child traffickers. Heās demon, but he kills a misogynistic dude that wanted his wife dead for cheating on him. Heās a demon, but beats up dudes that harass women. He does a slaughter, but theyāre nazi. Heās off the deep end, but works a case of kidnapped and abused young women...
Speaking of which. 10x23, written by Jeremy Carver. Dean works a case where a girl was killed while dressed scantily and Dean makes some slut-shaming remarks, and weāre supposed to think āwhoa Dean, thatās badā. But later he confronts the girlās father and what does he say?
Iām just doing my job, Mr. McKinley.
By suggesting my daughter was a slut?
Iāll admit that thought crossed my mind. Then I came here, and I smelled the deceit and the beatings and the shame that pervade this home.
You shut your face right now.
And you know what? I donāt blame Rose anymore. No wonder she put on that skank outfit and went out there looking for validation, right into the arms of the monster that killed her.
Back then the episode was super controversial and everyone hated the case because of the apparent slut-shaming but I loved it! Because itās not about the girl. Itās about Dean. Dean doesnāt think that a girl gets killed because she dresses in a miniskirt so itās her fault. Dean is projecting on himself and heās not actually victim blaming the girl, heās victim blaming himself. And when he absolves the girl by putting the blame on the father... well, subtextually heās absolving himself by putting the blame on his father. On the deceit and the beatings and the shame that pervaded his own home. Heās textually not ready to absolve himself, of course, he summons Death to ask him to kill him later, but subtextually heās on the right path.
Rose McKinley basically did the same mistake Dean did at the CBGB when he trusted some older people who offered him drinks and the same mistake Claire did when she trusted a man who sold her for money because he offered him a place and stability. She trusted the wrong people (in this case, vampires, which adds the whole subtext of vampires and sexuality) who took advantage of her. Except Rose had no one to save her. (Her friend, Crystal, gets rescued by Dean, even if he causes the other hunter Rudy to die in the process.)
Carverās writing is pretty brutal. The girl made that mistake because was abused at home, so she was desperate for validation and that desperation drove her into the wrong hands. (Rose even has a brother who blames himself for bringing her sister to her future murderers, destructive sibling relationship check.) It doesnāt actually even matter if Dean guessed right about Roseās family situation, because what matters is what it tells us about Dean. He basically relates to a dead abused girl. Actually all through the season Dean is paralleled to āskanksā āslutsā and sex workers. Obviously this happens kinda all through the show, the whole āthe business is based on absent fathersā thing happened much earlier in the story, so itās not new. But s10 draws a picture of female suffering - abuse, manipulation and death. Season 10 was difficult to go through. In hindsight, it was probably on purpose because it was supposed to be darkest hour of the feminine. Summed with some good old fashioned misogyny, but hey.
The Carver era was wonky but Carver wanted to free the feminine. (I believe that Maryās comeback, while written by Dabb because of the showrunner shift, was planned before the showrunner shift.) We thought the Dabb era wanted the same, with Mary choosing life and Amara being independent and so on, but it evidently wasnāt the case. Not a single woman arrives at end of the story. Itās hardly ~Bucklemming or ~the network or ~covid because it starts before the very end.
Iām not saying that dead sluts are more feminist than living women, but if the women die or disappear anyway (and they did) Iād rather have an exploration of trauma than nothing. And I definitely prefer a dead slut narrative that calls out parental abuse than a narrative where women live but abuse gets the you-did-your-best treatment.
Whoops! I digressed! But feel free to ask for any clarification or send me any observation or thought.
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