#and why was kipperlilly the only one not resurrected which made sense but i feel like it would’ve been even more interesting

[meikiran]

fhjy finale spoilers but

Brennan mentioned that the ritual was different for people who electively chose to participate like Kipperlilly.

Do you think that Kipperlilly was initiated before or after the other team members? Was there something she had to do to prove her loyalty and cause?

Did she have to kill the first member or members of her team so porter would know that she wouldn’t betray him so he didn’t have to kill her himself? Who was the first one to be killed and resurrected again?

If she did, was she thinking about the glory that this would bring to just herself or for her whole team?

Did Porter promise her that he would make her into a legend? Tell her about the potential she has to make a change in the world? Was she only driven by the pure rage she felt?

Did she think that she was going to turn them into heroes?

I’ve been thinking about the complexity of the characters that we didn’t particularly get an answer to all night.

[irisbaggins]

I think people are assuming the klck killing buddy was a split second decision, but brennan confirmed in the adventuring party that it was already on the table, which makes the pivot from aiming the crossbow at the proctor to sliting buddy's throat more of a "I only have time to do one thing" and less of a "panic and hit the eject"

Yupp! I just finished watching that episode, and I felt vindicated in that moment. It feels like it was always planned, something I suspected ever since Buddy was introduced and Kipperlilly mentioned her knowledge of everything to do with YES?. It seems much more likely that killing Buddy was always on the table, and his death was needed for everything to succeed the way they wanted. Wether it was so they could kill Kristen permanently/for a bit (which would kill the remnants of Cassandra), or if it was to gain access to Sol, that's unconfirmed. But I suspect it's something along those lines, as killing their clerics due to their divinity seems to be something of a pattern of theirs.

I strongly believe Kipperlilly intended to kill Buddy in that arena, she just never expected Kristen of all people to clock her before she was able to execute her plan. After all, if you can only do one thing, killing the proctor will just make their grades waver as an end result. But killing Buddy, whilst there's still dangerous monsters on the field? Well, they can't pass the Last Stand if they're all dead and without any ability to resurrect themselves. After all, why would she have stolen the gems if she hadn't intended to kill Buddy? She would've then only stolen Buddy's gems, but she also stole Kristen's. Meaning, Kristen couldn't revive anyone, either. Either way, she never intended for someone to ever leave the battlefield, that much is clear.

The motive, however, is still up in the air. But I'd bet it has something to do with Heaven and Creation, and perhaps also with making sure that if one of the Bad Kids died, they'd stay dead.

Kipperlilly's shock came from being caught, but her actions were still carefully calculated. It would, after all, have made more sense to kill Kristen if she acted out of pure shock if she had no back-up plan. Kristen is her rival, Kristen caught her, and Kristen is a cleric. Yet, she went for Buddy, somebody they had requested to have on their party. It all smells like pre-meditated murder to me.