#and unlearn the antisemitism i was raised around

[mettatonsass]

Jewblr I'm asking for your help.

I don't know how to be a jew and I would like some resources to learn how to be a good jew.

I was raised by a conservative xtian mother who was very antisemetic and really only taught me stereotypes about being jewish. My dad's heritage is jewish (my parents divorced when I was around a year old) and I always felt a strong connection to the Jewish community but never knew until recently that I was a part of it.

I'm non-observant due to holding other religious beliefs (I'm a polytheist) so I'm not sure how talking to a Rabbi would go, plus the closest Synogogue to me is an hour drive and I have no way of making that drive.

I'm trying to research, but I really don't know where to start in said research. I want to connect with my jewish heritage and culture and I need help with this.

Thank you for any help, sorry if this seems vague. I'm just really looking for a mentor I think.

I just want to be a good jew.

[am-i-the-asshole-official]

WIBTA for not helping my brother unlearn some hate?

I (16F) and my brother (9M, let's call him K) are both from a third world country with some less-than-friendly general views, most of which my parents agree with. I couldn't care less if my mom is vividly disgusted at Chinese/Korean products/music or if she wholeheartedly believes that having crushes on your female friends is "normal" and "not homosexuality", because she's a really kind and sweet person and I just love her, you know? She never voices these thoughts around people who are that way and even has Chinese friends herself, but once I ask her "what do you think your friends would feel if they knew you said things like that sometimes?" to which her response was basically "it's not like I'll ever say it to their face, that's rude, and I don't think they're any less humans than us, their country taking over the industrial world and music is just disgusting". Or she immediately demands the channel be changed if the tv is showing an LGBT couple (this is illegal in our country, we connect to foreign satellites which don't censor this).

Anyway. Sorry for the ramble. This leads me to two problems:

My brother is kinda short and skinny due to genetics. And when I say "kinda", I mean like, he's really, really small and tiny for his age and often gets mistaken for a preschooler or first grader. My mother worries over the fact that the boys at his school (since we're all being raised in the same toxic society, huzzah) bully him for being smaller than them. And K has a tendency to easily cry at insults, furthering this issue. I've talked to him several times on how he'll get a growth spurt and it's fine, but my mom's talks mainly consist of how he's a grown boy now and it's not nice for boys his age to cry in public like that. She also doesn't really like me getting "involved" in K's bullying issues. Please, PLEASE don't send any hate to my mom, okay guys? She's one of the best people I know.

The other issue here is that K technically IS growing up, but he's also learning some of the really uncomfortable aspects of this society by repeating things like "the referee for this soccer game probably let the other team win because he's Chinese" (to which I had to correct him and say the referee was actually Filipino, but never mind) or asking me with GENUINE curiosity if I, as a girl, play soccer at my school (he loves soccer so so much, I try to encourage this love for him).

I correct him on this stuff as much as I can, but honestly... sometimes I just don't. Sure, I think it's bad and all, but I (probably, I don't remember much) grew up being the same way considering the way our society is. And if I turned out nice enough, I'm sure he just needs to be the right age for some more technical guidance and all I can do here is randomly tell him he's wrong when he says this stuff. My mom just... she thinks it's a huge stretch to "call everything racism nowadays", which I think REALLY depends on the context! My brother says this stuff very, very rarely, but I don't think he really... gets /why/ it's bad, you know? Again, I'm mostly planning on giving him advice on occasion and letting him figure it out by himself, but I don't want him saying racist/antisemitic/sexist jokes by accident in public, less so because it might humiliate the family and more so because it might actually upset someone.

Again, WIBTA? Don't call my mom the asshole here, please. She's super extremely polite to everyone, calls for action against our dictatorship of a government, and gives medical care to her less financially stable patients for free (she's a doctor). She just has some little views here and there that are the result of her upbringing, same as ours are the result of what we experienced. I can wholeheartedly forgive her for that.

[unbidden-yidden-deactivated20240]

Archive Masterpost

Since tumblr refuses to fix its search function and/or make its tagging system reliable, to keep things tidy around here I am going to start a masterlist of posts that I think are helpful, funny, or that I am likely to want to reference again for some reason.

(If I've spent more than a couple minutes searching for a post ever, it's going on this list so I don't have to waste my time again)

This is primarily for my own reference (so I will not be taking requests or unsolicited advice) but feel free to use it if you're looking for something of mine.

Religion/Theology (typically tagged with "every hour is theology hour around here apparently")

Extremely long post explaining differences between Xtianity and Judaism

Trinity post

This extremely excellent post by @/a-queer-seminarian about why the Tables Flipping Incident isn't what a lot of lefty Xtians like to say it was

Jumblr takes on the Tables Flipping Incident

A good test of the value of any given religious belief

Progressive Xtians need to step up, Now

Religion doesn't change my morals; it enhances them

Why are so many Xtians so insecure about their religion in how they relate to Jews?

Shituf (wrt Xtianity)

Culturally Xtian atheist discourse #1

Culturally Xtian atheist discourse #2

Culturally Xtian atheist discourse #3

Why I say 'Xtian'

Questions for converts of any type

Spicy theology question

Questions I regret asking about biblical literalism

Holy Envy quote: Rabia of Basra

Things I don't understand about the Xtian Sabbath

Hey what happens if you reject your baptism according to inclusive Xtians?

Do you ever feel crazy for believing in God?

Xtians should be Xtians by Choice:

Judaism: Religion & Conversion

What to expect at your first Shabbat (@/bneiruth)

First-timer tips for shul: [1], [2]

What you might be asked your first time talking to a rabbi about conversion (@/bneiruth)

Conversion resources (by @/keshetchai)

Do NOT convert to Judaism if your intent is to syncretize it with anything else, and especially don't convert for Lillith of all things.

Trust me, no you didn't embarrass yourself too much to go back to shul

No, really

Having a lot of thoughts about what genuine, compassionate kiruv might look like to interfaith couples

Judaism: Jewish culture & politics

On the diversity of what people mean by "Zionism" and "Anti-Zionism" by @/3tznius5this

On Jewish music vs. Xtian music (pt. 1, pt. 2)

Times of Israel article re: Israel's court reform

Israel is more similar to Liberia

Chelm stories?

Judaism: personal experiences

Eretz Yisrael post

Conversion journey

The music of our prayers

An Ode to the Holy Dark

Hashem, the soul you have placed in me is pure

Singing Hallel for Av

Messianic mishegas:

Why messianics aren't valid (long post by @/sorekbekarmi)

Why messianics are antisemitic (also by @/sorekbekarmi)

Interview by @/sorekbekarmi about his experiences being raised messianic

Conversion requires a lot of unlearning

Yoshke is probably a mamzer

Messianics still aren't valid, pt.2

Antisemitism: (more generally)

@/schraubd article about Jews being caught in the middle between Right and Left talking over Jews on antisemitism

@/schraubd post about a possible art simulation of Jewish experience

Dara Horn post

"But... but... Jews are disproportionately wealthy!"

Post about Jewish regeneration through large families; discussion on names

It's not the 1940s anymore, but in the 1940s it wasn't the 1890s anymore...

If I find this massive antisemitism write-up by (I believe) @/penrosesun I will lose it in a good way because it was so good [Edit: I finally saw it on my dash again!!]

Compilation of important dog whistles to know & avoid (by @/dzamie)

Antisemitism inherent to Xtianity?

Khazer theory debunking

No means no applies to proselytizing

Missionizing is awful and Jews should not have to become experts in Xtianity to fend it off

"Diaspora" doesn't even really cover it

Tentatively adding "attributes every failure of institutions and systems to intentional malice rather than ignorance or incompetence" to my List Of Conspiracy Theory Red Flags

Desecrating a sefer Torah is NOT the same as desecrating a printed bible

Jumblr: (mostly memes and other more lighthearted or inspirational Jewish posts)

Pesach tinfoil post

Apparently "fucking" is transliterated exactly into Hebrew

Subarot

Why the Jews are Better Off Without Xmas Trees

You wouldn't drive in your house

"Dual loyalty"

Goyische chol hamoed

The prettiest, most aesthetic sukkah I've seen

Mezuzah friend

A cruel God

Who's ready for Yom Kippur?

Goats have too many sins

First photo released from Mars

Rashi's big frog

What if we advertised Torah study like Bible study?

Don't walk in front of me I may not follow....

"Ruth was un-Jewish by birth. Moses was un-Jewish by upbringing..."

Gender garbage: (personal, often heavy, posts about my own experiences)

Convergent gender

"Indentifying as" language

Labels are for recycling bins

We pick one

Untitled

I don't have preferred pronouns really

Transandrophobia discussions

General trans- and queer-posting:

That one reblog about The Birdcage

Ways to improve discourse around gender wrt to understanding that all genders have the same needs regardless of what patriarchy has told us

Feminism & Reproductive Rights:

Uggghhh this post has too many notes

Conservatives are coming for no-fault divorce

If someone in tech designs this, it's not my fault

Memes and other lighthearted posts:

Why does everyone seem to reblog this one kinda throwaway comment directly from my blog?

Spouse and I are very silly about words sometimes

Boulevard of Broken Dreams

Hey if the diaper fits

Miscellaneous:

Be careful what you say, because I might remember it forever

The Sneeze (germ video)

Tech halp:

How to get rid of upload notifications

How to do the small text

Yes, you can actually have a comma in the tags

General/Housekeeping:

Original introduction pinned post (retired)

[arianagrandre]

can I ask a question?

I was raised with one view. As I've gotten older, I've learned this view was wrong. But for the longest time I was surrounded by people who agreed with that view, and convinced me it was right.

In regards to Noah, isn't he Jewish? If he sincerely apologized and learned, would it be okay then? I know some people are calling for a boycott of stranger things, which I will support, but I also know when I was 18/19 I was still surrounded by those who had the same view I had growing up. Thank God I don't have that view anymore.

I want to make it clear I do NOT support what he did. I am also NOT against the Jewish people. You can say that Palestine should be free and there should be peace without being antisemitic. It isnt the same thing.

hi thanks for the ask and your honesty! i can understand only growing up with one mindset and only having that to fall back upon because that’s all you’ve ever known. but at the same time i think context and circumstances matter.

lately i’ve been seeing a ton of people (particularly from the West) who have started to deprogram and unlearn everything they’ve been conditioned to believe about israel, their govt, zionism, islam etc. and i’m sure it wasn’t easy getting there. but i have to be honest and show how privileged of a position that is, to be able to have that distancing in the first place. to have the space to change your mindset or perspective about an ongoing genocide that palestinians have been experiencing for their whole lifetime. unlike the rest of us who are afforded the time and privilege to learn or unlearn what we think we know, palestinians don’t, they were born into their oppressed reality, their fight for liberation is all they’ve ever known.

noah could change his mind but… why should we bother making him comfortable if he did? having basic compassion for palestinians is the very least anyone can do. it’s not something i feel is really worth ‘celebrating’.

i think what makes it worse is that noah has all the resources at his fingertips, being someone with a huge platform and connections. he could easily choose to be more accurately informed if he wanted to. it’s a choice he consciously makes. one could argue that he was only raised with his mindset but again, it’s his choice to refuse to question his own way of thinking, even now, amidst the huge support and protests around the world—and questioning your own perspective is the most fundamental first step in having a deeper understanding about your own worldview, let alone unlearning it.

the problem isn’t whether he knows that civilians are losing their lives—the problem is that he does know and he’ll find ways to justify it (this is what zionists do). there are so many jewish people and organisations in support of palestinians and he could easily google why and maybe start to unpack his personal views. but he’s too comfortable where he is and he’s willing to choose his own comfort over the lives of palestinians. so whether or not it’s okay if he apologised and changed his mind is of no concern to me, because he’s clearly not concerned about anyone else at the moment anyway

[vaspider]

Hey spider, I'm writing for a few reasons. 1st, thank you for reblogging my old pinned post, it helped a lot! 2nd, I am curious as to whether or not I count as ethnically jewish. I know that sounds dumb, but hear me out.

I was not raised jewish, and my parents do not practice judaism or recognize their jewish ancestry in my father's case. My ancestors on my dad's side in reverse order were american, first nations/french canadian, french jewish people leaving due to anti semitism in the 1800s (i think, I may be wrong on the time frame), and then slavic and eurasian all the way back to Genghis Khan. (I'm serious on that one btw man got around)

I have always felt a connection to the jewish community, and i know it's not rlly something anyone can answer as to whether or not I 'count.'

Honestly I don't even know that I would claim it as I've never even been to a synagogue, have only faced minimal discrimination for 'looking and acting jewish' from my mother, and my mother was extremely antisemitic and I had to unlearn a lot of things she taught me growing up. That being said, I value your opinion, and I wanted to ask you what you think on the matter.

As for conversion I respect the jewish faith but practice polytheism and do not intend to convert whether I am or am not considered ethnically jewish.

Sorry for just dropping this on you. I would have dm'd you but i know you don't dm with non-mutuals which is so understandable. If you don't have the spoons you don't have to answer and I would totally get it since like i just dropped a weird question on you and you have no obligation to answer it.

Lastly, thank you for providing amazing resources and being outspoken and unabashedly you. The world needs more people like you, Momma Spider.

Thank you for your kind words. I feel like you should probably talk with a rabbi if you want a more serious answer about this. It sounds like you may be hungry for Jewish community, and you might benefit from talking to a rabbi regardless, because you are drawing artificial lines between "the religion" and "the people". Judaism is a people, there's no separate parts of religion and ethnicity, the practice of being part of the community and following halacha (or not) is not really separate from synagogue, IDK. And like, converts are exactly as Jewish as any other Jew, so any convert's ethnicity is by definition a Jewish ethnicity, and Jews come from all over the world, all kinds of ethnicities and backgrounds, all of which are equally as Jewish, because, like, that's how it works. All Jews are 100% Jewish, no more and no less.

The division and slicing parts of it up is a really Xian mindset.

[himbo-the-clown]

Hm. Slowly coming to the realisation that it’s infinitely easier as a Jewish person to talk about my opinions on Judaism than it is to talk about any other experiences I have as a member of any other minority group I’m part of. And I think it’s because every other minority I’m part of is majority christians or people raised in christian society (which is really every society that isn’t explicitly non-christian). So while other Jewish people can see the things I say about Judaism and wholeheartedly disagree with them, they don’t take it as me being a Bad Jew or an Evil Person because they understand that there’s no one way to be right and that there’s a lot of nuance and subjectivity in the world.

Whereas people who are christian or were raised in christian society often feel like if people don’t agree with them then those people are somehow inherently incorrect. Which is how we get people who try their best to be allies being “called out” for not listening to members of a group..... despite people being physically incapable of listening to and agreeing with Every Single Member of a group. Like individuals think that if the person listened to every side of an issue and then didn’t agree with them personally, they didn’t listen at all. And that they’re intentionally being bigoted and malicious.

Whereas with Jews there’s the whole “two Jews, three opinions” thing where even if one of us disagrees with another, we also know that there’s more than one way to look at things that can be equally valid and correct (as well as equally invalid and incorrect at the same time). Because our culture is heavily based around the idea of looking at every side of an issue and never coming to just one “true” answer, it’s much easier to disagree with someone without feeling like they must be wrong to make you right.

Christianity is so deeply rooted in all cultures that aren’t explicitly something else, and it convinces people that there’s right and wrong, good and bad, no such thing as nuance. That two people cannot hold different opinions and both be right. And that makes it really difficult as a Jewish person to interact on any meaningful level with christianised people that I share minority identities with who don’t work on unlearning this.

If I think doing something is antisemitic and another Jewish person thinks not doing it is antisemitic, we almost always can both acknowledge that our opinions can be equally valid and correct. We can respect a goy who has to choose whether or not to keep doing said thing, regardless of their choice, as long as they’ve actually looked into the issue and are making an informed decision, because we know that they can’t listen to both of us at once. And we care more that they’re listening to Jews in general and trying to educate themselves than if they made the “right” decision, in large part because we’re aware there is no objective “right” opinion about a lot of stuff.

Whereas if another trans person thinks doing something is transphobic and I think not doing it is transphobic, if they’re christianised there’s a decent chance that they’re going to get mad at me and decide that I’m not only “wrong” but also a “bad trans person” for thinking the way I do. And if a cis person inspects all the sides of the arguments and has to choose whether or not to keep doing said thing, if they don’t choose the other person’s side then that person will try to call them out as a transphobe who doesn’t listen to trans people rather than acknowledging that not all trans people agree on every trans issue always.

It’s really tiring sometimes, trying to talk about any identities I hold other than being Jewish. People are so eager to take things in bad faith as soon as they don’t agree with it, and to label people as “bad” or “good.” And you need a truly nauseating amount of explicitly stated caveats (speaking of, none of this is an excuse for terfs/nazis/transmeds/etc.) otherwise people will intentionally read malicious intent into everything you say. But thankfully the Jewish community always feels like a safe place for me to engage in good faith discussions about issues without feeling pressured to all agree with each other by the end of it.

Goyim can reblog this but know in advance that I don’t care about you “not being christianised because I’m an Atheist.” Cry all you want, if you weren’t raised in an explicitly non-christian society you’re still  christianised and your tears mean nothing to me. I will not debate you.

[big-mothy-man]

Not necessarily related to the exact story,, but more an extended example of Christian antisemitism.

I was raised in a very unforgiving Catholic Church. They despised pagans, they spit the word Jew as if it was a swear word. They built much of the church culture around the hatred of other faiths. Often laughing at the “stupidity” of their beliefs. They held themselves up on a superiority complex. Every story seemed to either mock or berate Jewish and Pagan people (I know neither religion are similar, but this church targeted them the most and often lumped them together).

When I was around eight, we got a new priest. He stands at 7’2” (no joke) and his head often touched the ceilings of the Sunday school classrooms I would sit in. I give this physical detail to explain how powerful and larger than life he seemed to be,,, especially to a young child.

So when his booming voice filled the church with tales of “greedy Jews” and “naive pagans” I felt compelled to believe him. I remember that the Bible mentioned leprosy quite often. Or perhaps he just read the same passage over and over again. Either way, he attributed Jewish people with the disease several times.

I finally left the church at age 14. I live in a small town. A large portion of the population attends that church still. I heard the tall priest left, but I’m sure the disgusting teachings still pour from the mouth of the new priest.

I’m lucky. I had access to the internet. I’m queer. I’m lucky that the church found a way to hate me. I’m lucky that I had access to the stories of actual Jewish people. Im lucky that my school made an extensive effort to teach about the remaining effects of the holocaust. I’m lucky I have an interest in politics. I’m lucky my family wasn’t hyper-religious and made a point to re-educate us about the foul teachings of the church. Im lucky that I was able to ask questions and begin to unlearn the trash I had been fed for a decade.

But others aren’t that lucky. Antisemitism is ingrained so deeply in our culture. Not just church, but every aspect of life. People too blind, bigoted, or brainwashed will never make an attempt to see that. If you’re convinced every other religion is made up of monsters, why would you look to their stories for information? Why would you question the authority of a man who supposedly knows g-d better than you?

Years later, I am still unlearning stigma. There is so much. (This is not meant to come off as a victimization of myself, rather to show the extent of antisemitism. I know unlearning is the bare minimum I can do, and I intend to do more than that in the future.) Stigma I was taught by classmates, teachers, and random stereotypes. Again, antisemitism is woven into every aspect of our lives. Recognize that and begin to educate yourself.

This story is not meant to take away from op’s point, or to harm the fight against antisemitism. If it does in any way, please let me know and I will immediately delete this post.

This is your periodic reminder that the story of Jesus flipping over tables in the Temple is inherently antisemitic and holding it up as a great example of “fighting capitalism” or some such in the modern day is also antisemitic because those people in the Temple were doing what they were instructed to do in the Torah (in Exodus) to help make the Temple more accessible to those who lived far away. The story frames the fulfillment of this commandment from Gd as Jews being greedy, opportunistic, schemers and I’m so tired of people talking about it like it’s a good thing.

Goyim please reblog, and if you interact with this post please just be respectful.

[tuulikki]

OP said the topic of conversation was: “a lot of the really weird relationships and discourse that exist out there in the neo-pagan, Satanist, and atheist communities.”

Speaking as a former Catholic, a former Wiccan, and current atheist, I read that and knew exactly what subset of atheists have “weird relationships and discourse” in common with certain subsets of neo-pagans and Satanists. I was that subset, and probably a lot of that is still rattling around in the back of my head. It’s fine: I can read about the issue from diverse perspectives to better understand my own place in it. It’s pretty fucking great to have people just hand me research, actually.

If you needed them to spell out all the atheist groups this doesn’t apply to… then maybe you just don’t have the context. If you’re an ex-Muslim, maybe that’s why it flew over your head. This is specific to people from cultures that have historically been Christian—very recognisably so to anyone from one of those cultures. If you are from a historically Christian culture, you missed some context clues, dunno what else to say.

So you’ll note that OP didn’t say “all atheists.” They didn’t even say that all weirdnesses in those/our communities come from the topic they’re discussing. They didn’t even say all our weirdness and discourse came from antisemitism (because lol no we can do that plenty on our own). There’s no need to react as if they said something shitty about you.

A discussion of how Judaism can be oppressive would be a separate conversation. If you give that a re-read, you’ll also find that nowhere did they say Judaism can’t be oppressive. They didn’t “ignore” anything.

Why do people feel so attacked at learning there’s antisemitism on the left? There is all kinds of toxic shit lurking in the cultural patterns we’ve inherited from being raised in a prejudiced society: racism, misogyny, colonialism, homophobia, and—yes—antisemitism.

Do we not all agree that it takes work to unlearn prejudice? Being an ex-Christian doesn’t make me free from cultural antisemitism, the way voting for Obama didn’t absolve me of white privilege. I’m an imperfect person, but lucky me, I’m ex-Catholic, so when people tell me I’ve fucked up it doesn’t actually destabilise my understanding of myself as a fundamentally moral person. Turns out it’s actually really relaxing to be open to the possibility that you fucked up in good faith.

And just to follow up on that previous reblog without derailing it: a lot of the really weird relationships and discourse that exist out there in the neo-pagan, Satanist, and atheist communities are in fact echoes of the weird relationship that Xtianity has with Judaism.

Xtianity has a weird, tumultuous relationship with Judaism because they must simultaneously validate the Tanakh and the Jews who created it or else their own religion is devoid of context and built on a house of cards. But! If they validate Judaism, then they have to grapple with the fact that the Jews did not accept their interpretation of the Tanakh, that we still, against all odds, exist, and that because we still exist, we are still around to point out the ways in which the New Testament does not fit with the Tanakh and that the Tanakh does not inherently or naturally point to Jesus. And that's to say nothing of the bloody history of Xtianity towards Judaism. Our continued existence is a sore point and a weakness in the Xtian narrative that has been a constant source of irritation, frustration, and violence since the dawn of Xtianity. And, at the same time, there is a certain fascination with Judaism related to things that have been appropriated by Xtians or understood as particularly useful in spreading supercessionist ideas. So what you wind up with is a toxic mix of antisemitism and philosemitism (effectively fetishization and orientalism) that drives too many Xtians to "love" us by attacking our beliefs and way of life, and stealing whatever they think will be most helpful in their mission (especially as it pertains to Jews) in order to try and convert us.**

Many people who have also been hurt from inside of Xtianity or by the broader Xtian culture they live in seek to deconstruct those ideas by creating an inverse of Xtianity in one way or another. Those who turn to Satanism typically do this by worshipping the opposite force of the Xtian god. Those who turn to neo-paganism typically do this by embracing an unambiguously polytheistic religion and/or by turning to the cultural historical enemies of Xtianity. Those who turn to atheism typically do this by rejecting "God," "faith," and "organized religion" (as these concepts are understood by Xtian norms.)

And honestly? That's fine. If it helps, if it brings you meaning and joy, knock yourselves out. I have no problem with people turning to these beliefs for reasons of healing as well as simply being drawn to it. And for what it's worth, I did a similar thing by turning to Judaism. Obviously I had many other reasons for becoming a Jew as well, and I assume that's true for the aforementioned folks, too. Judaism healed a lot of Xtianity-shaped wounds for me, and if your paganism, Satanism, and/or atheism helps you in the same way as well as bringing you meaning, I sincerely wish you the best.

However, the problem is that many times, unless you turn to Judaism and learn our side of the story, it's very difficult to deconstruct the antisemitism of your past entanglement with Xtianity. Xtian antisemitism has permeated western society so thoroughly for so long that it is real *work* to identify and unlearn it. Those converting to Judaism have the benefit of the Jewish community and extensive educational resources to help. Other folks do not.

Here's the problem: if you simply invert Xtian ideas, you are still treating Xtianity as the baseline reality from which your other assumptions and beliefs flow. If you just choose the opposite at every chance, you divorce yourself from Xtianity, but not its prejudices.

Now you might fairly ask, "hey Avital, if we are making the opposite choice at every turn, wouldn't that invert the antisemitism to being at least neutral if not positive towards Judaism?" And that would be perfectly logical! But unfortunately deeply and (for us) dangerously incorrect.

The reason is because (1) antisemitism has never been rational but reactionary instead, (2) philosemitism is also bad, and (3) it is structured in a way that it's pretty much always "heads I win, tails you lose." Have you ever noticed that according to antisemites, Jews are both ultra-white and also dirty foreign middle eastern invaders? That we are supposedly very powerful and run the world, but are also weak and degenerate? That both the Right and the Left have extensive antisemitism problems? Etc.? There's a reason - it's because antisemitism is designed to other us no matter what. So oftentimes I see folks inverting Xtian philosemitism to being "those awful fundamentalist Old Testamenters" or inverting Xtian antisemitism to valorizing Judaism, but only to the extent that they can meme-ify our religion down to fighting God and/or being un-pious godless liberals.

But like other groups, we are a diverse and complicated group with a very long history and a lot of trauma to boot.

If you're trying to unpack your Xtian conditioning, please also unpack your antisemitism and philosemitism. If not for our sake and for it being the right thing to do, at least do it for yourselves, because unless you deconstruct that as well, you will still be operating within a really ugly aspect of a Xtian mindset.

(**Please note that this isn't literally all Xtians everywhere, but it is a lot of Xtians in most places and throughout most of history. There are absolutely Xtians who are good allies to Jews, but they are much smaller in number and are swimming upstream in their relationship to both Jews and Xtianity.)