#and to think we have a whole s8 coming from abc too..... what a time to be alive!

[jakeperalta]

literally obsessed with abc getting hold of buck and immediately going "before we do anything else let's just make it clear that man is NOT straight"

[lover-of-mine]

to be totally honest, i think a lot of 'they should get a slowburn!' stuff is from people who are nervous that they're not gonna do buddie at all and are preemptively looking for reasons why hope will not be lost if it doesn't happen in s8.

like, i get it, i'm still not 100% convinced it'll happen (i hope it will!) but sometimes you just gotta accept the possibility of disappointment, y'know?

Look, I'm no one, I'm a girl with a hyperfixation and a blog who happens to watch too many procedurals. But Buck and Eddie have been following the procedural slowburn format since season 2. It's worse now with the added context that Buck is bi. So the impression is that buddie is building up to something. There are meta elements during 704 that make me go 👀 like the blue and green and the way they had Eddie ask Buck if he's jumping ship and Buck explicitly say he's not. I think they set a plan in motion during 704. And I think that plan has an actual timeline based on the amount of episodes they had confirmed at the time the episode aired, so the rest of season 7 and season 8. Could I be wrong? Absolutely. I'm wrong most of the time if it's not about patterns on the show. But every interview we had this season makes it seem like they have been trying to tell this story but fox wasn't letting them and abc did. It took them 4 episodes to make Buck bi. They left the opening disaster and the first thing they did was make Buck bi. They didn't have to. To keep Buck and Eddie on the impossible will they/won't they if they're not planning on getting them together is smarter. Now they're actually possible. If they're actually possible, our very annoying side of the fandom is just gonna get more annoying asking for them to just get together already. Everyone involved could've given up. They were being blocked by the network. The writers could've given up. Buddie is a story about love even if they never get romantically involved because the writers made a conscious choice of writing how much those men love each other. And they spent a significant amount of a reduced season making sure we knew that will always be the case. The amount of buddie we had this season is absolutely completely insane. Both of them were in relationships with other people. I made a post about that earlier in the week, but they could've made different choices and separated them. And it's not like all their scenes were at the firehouse and where just getting coworker time. The camera panned to Eddie. Bobby's goodbye tour had them together all the time. They were explicitly put in a co-parenting position. Eddie is the only person they made a point of showing Buck come out to because he comes out to everyone else accidentally. It's a love story no matter how you look at it and not getting them together would be such a miss of a narrative that has been set up like this. Because legit, if they accidentally set up what could be one of the greatest slowburns in television, someone in that writers room needs to take a good look at their life. They want to tell this story. Why would they gamble on not being able to deliver and honest to God go down in television history by dragging it out when the pieces are already in play? During season 6 I get it, they didn't have all the pieces, they didn't have the time. Now they have most of the pieces and a whole season. Madney was set up in 12 episodes. And they had to work through a kidnapping and a murder attempt. A MURDER ATTEMPT. Why is Eddie being messy suddenly something that's gonna take seasons and seasons to resolve? Give me both of them single and I can get them together in one episode. All they need is one conversation. Just one. It's not like it's an impossible task to create an arc that's gonna use 12 to 15 episodes next season to work out the last bits and get them together in a nice way. The only thing they necessarily need to "fix" before getting them together, is Eddie not being queer. Everything else can be worked through while they're a couple. They're so close. The idea of dragging it out just to drag it out is so........... They've been a slowburn the whole time. This would just force them to stand on the fire.

Obviously, they don't have to go there. But for me we're at a 90% chance of them going canon next season. But if they don't, that's life. It's just that those men are somehow closer than they've ever been. And they are in a great position to explore what their relationship looks like because Chris was removed from the play, and it's so close I can taste it. That storyline writes itself. And I really hope they see that and that kicking Eddie back to the ground had a purpose. Because Bathena and Madney also started once Bobby and Maddie decided to drag themselves out of their trauma and stop letting it define how they live their lives. It's RIGHT THERE.

Anyway, I got carried away. Yes, all we have is hope and it might not happen, but I will continue to make noise for it to come because if there's one thing I do is live for the hope of it all.

[wolfwhiteflowers]

So that skybound answer to caryl question lead me to think the Rick and Michonne conversation in comics before whispers , I think Carol and Daryl friendship is like rick and michonne of the comic I do not think there would be any canon mostly angst arc Frankly whatever may be the reason let them talk atleast Love your blog

Thank you for loving my blog and my posts. :3

I really like your question and it’s something I wanna write about too. So yeah long post :B  It’s mostly about Caryl being like comic-R/M speculations/remixes

#twd spoilers #twd comic spoilers!!

caryl=comic r/m? 

Yeah, when I was looking at other stuff and when Skybound thing came, I was surprised how you and others quickly thought of comic-R/M when thinking of Caryl in s9. (And ABC/ABD haters thought of it too. aww they care too) Because, awhile ago, I thought of it but in the hard long way. LOL I was thinking of when will Carol have love and since she’s most similar to comic-M? And I was hoping Carol will be viewed as a love interest. not old lady cant have no love.also why daryl have no love interest  I was like sigh that means we have to wait even longer. Comic-M isn’t with anyone right now (probably with Mercer someday meh), but I ship her with comic-R. And then I was like WTF what if when comic-M gets with comic-R is around the same time when Caryl happens. It’s also like more of a chance of not happening/risky..? Because both of my ships, Caryl and comic-R/M are not canon right now. But it would be so cooooool if it happens. Both ships to happen. :P Either way, I hope both of them continue their nice bonded relationship. Ofc I want them to be endgame too.

 I didn’t really think about this much because it’s kinda new thinking of Caryl being like comic-R/M. But I guess what Skybound hinted, kinda confirms it with Caryl being like comic-R/M? Like addressing what they are..”best friends” It does makes sense for Caryl and comic-R/M to be similar and adapted like them at the moment. Both are best friends and have a deep bond and long history. (Comic-R/M are like main characters btw, so a lot of material there. idk what im saying. so..a lot of depth with them.) Then I wonder what tv-R/M will do? I kinda think Caryl won’t always be like comic-R/M that much, or both tv-R/M and Caryl flip flops with comic R/M and comic R/Andrea. 

skybound’s answer

But, I don’t really take it seriously with Skybound and other sites like comicbook.com. Idk I think they’re just hearing speculations & spoilers and speculating what they think and being edgy for clicks. Idk I don’t trust them exactly. Skybound could be true but like how do they know these things? Sometimes I think they’re just only speculating based on comics and know a few episodes ahead of time. So idk how they know so far ahead. idk. (They’re very pro-C/E right now. Idk if it is because the show is going that way or they’re thinking from the comics that C/E will happen. Idk if they ship C/E because, I’m guessing they’re gonna say E will die. why hope for that? So, maybe they’re just comic fans…)

 Anyways yeah the question and their answer, I’m like ok…it’s still iffy to know what’s up and very 50/50 again for me on TWD. Like will I like s9/Caryl/the writing? (hiatus is crazy)  But I like that if it’s true, that will get a confirmation of what Caryl is and that they will address it and talk about it. Because just knowing what they are is nice and I think it helps for fans to move on or something. Just to know what they are. We already know they’re like soulmatey BFFs.

 And even if it’s not positive. :P Like they’re just friendzzzz. C/E will happen durrr. I still think E will die in s9 and that idk that problem(?) is just short term. Whatever. As long as we get some Caryl moments. Anything. Maybe Daryl will get jealous. Love triangle? I would love the angst. heh. 

 Point is, the show is not over, Caryl’s not dead yet, and I still ship Caryl because I love them and they give me shippy feels. (I find it interesting that they edited their answer to explain it more. It shows the Carylers are big and loud heh. Also, we care.)  

 About E. 

There’s this rant I noticed from haters, on how why Carylers are hoping E to die so much and think it’s so Caryl can happen..and saying that’s cheap writing/shipping. I didn’t think of it that way at first, imo. I kept thinking about Carol/comic-M arcs and comics, how um …E was like one of the guys that helps her growth(like comic M) and she helps him, and he dies from the comics. His death was like one of the impactful.. memorable deaths too…so I think it’s good for his story. I guess. Also from the comics, Kingdom wasn’t used much in the story later on. So I think Carol being in Kingdom rn is like so writers can mention Kingdom and focus on E a bit in s9 when the big death scenes happen.  I try thinking of if E still lives on, idk what is next for him tbh. shrugs.  I guess E will die in season finale but I kept thinking it’s in mid season finale. um I hope Whisperer arc goes quicker in the comics but the show is also slooooow. Idk..comic fans/spoiled fans watching out for: fair, Magna/Yumiko, Alpha…then we will might know when the big deaths scene happens. I guess I’m trying say maybe C/E thing will only last a half a season or a season, if they’re canon. yeah…waiting. BTW, I like C/E’s friendship. I like it in the way of that he’s like Morgan and Tyreese on helping her growth. He’s a cool dude. But fandom gets in the way and s9 might might make C/E be canon and I won’t like that because I find their romance buildup sucks(no C/E moment in finale too) and it seems to make Carol OOC. sigh.

“Best Friends”

Anyways, I think most people and you, thought of comic-R/M because of the “best friend” scene. Right?

  In this panel, there is also something I wonder about for Carol’s arc in s9. Will she have comic’s M plot of “do I deserve happiness?” But, in my other posts about Carol and comic-M, I mentioned that Carol and comic-M are not similar in this part of the story. M was upset during the time jump and left feeling with regret and guilt, broke up E, and then wayyyyyy later had happiness with finding her daughter. In s8 finale, it’s like Carol found happiness already..with um Henry right? Writers didn’t say about E, but she’s staying Kingdom. So it’s confusing. Maybe Carol isn’t really truly madly deeply happy yet. And some C/E shippers think they’re married already. %)  i really hope not. thats just crazy writng. wtf i want good buildups in ships or all ships i guess. why my notps are just toxic  and no good buildups.

It would be great if Caryl have this comic-R/M thing in this arc and remix it a bit. There are a lot great moments in this arc in the comics with R/M, ..the before Whisper war happens. It’s when they reunite and reconnect. 

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 R: Come back home, in ASZ. 

^ “Best friends? What are we ten?” “If the shoe fits..” “Thanks.” Then he says like go visit Carl and check out the fair. He misses you. And then, …yeah the next arc, saving Carl, and she stays at ASZ to help out the whisperer war.

^Rick’s reaction.He’s so emotional about Michonne leaving. lol He was so upset with her leaving like that. It’s reasonable. She did left her friends and E unexpectedly. It was rude and wrong etc. She was desperate to leave. 

Another lil random speculations and thoughts

Which I just now realized it’s like Caryl in s8 finale..crappy writing. Carol left unexpectedly to live in Kingdom…right? Does that make Daryl bummed? IDK heh I doubt that whole thing is what it is. Carol didn’t leave by being upset and sad. I’m assuming she had and offscreen moment with Daryl and Rick that she’s staying and living in Kingdom. hmmm Well maybe it is…a start of angst~. Maybe Carol just didn’t want to tell Daryl that she gonna stay in Kingdom (for Henry, or E or idk) and didn’t tell Daryl because of afraid of him changing her mind or because of feels~. 

I find it funny when I see haters feeling sorry for Carylers because of what Skybound said about Caryl might take the “best friend” scene in the comics. Like uh the comics and the show are not done. Lovers can be your best friend too. Caryl may still happen in s9 or later, E may die,  Caryl may happen when/if comic-R didn’t happen. Also, speculating the show and the comics can always go different and we also have Kang as showrunner too and that could be different in the writing style, so it’s a  different kind of speculating too. So yeah we’re just speculating and …/we’re all fans and have different interpretations. *also there’s people who don’t see the comic-M or comic R&M similarities so..there’s that too. ok.