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Agatha All Along is so so SO much fun!
And so far I have yet to see any of the usual fandom negativity that has been pretty unavoidable the past few years..
Whether that’s because those usual negative people are actually allowing themselves to enjoy life for once (doubtful, but one can hope)
or the more likely option..
That I have become incredibly skilled at keeping that vibe away from all my feeds..
Whichever…if I’m being delusional or not, it doesn’t matter to me..
I’m just happy to sit in my little bubble of positivity..
and enjoy this series..
and continue to love my favourite franchise
no matter how many people love to complain about fun :)
#I hope people are actually liking Agatha#but I refuse to look to see if they don’t#hopefully people are having as much fun as I am watching this show#especially the wlws#this show is for us#but yeah..#i have been doing such a good job at living under a rock lately#its amazing#people ask me..oh did you hear about this or that drama#and im like I don’t even know who that is#I definitely wasn’t aware they had drama#and this applies to media too#like I was only mildly aware of the hate The Acolyte was getting#I was only focusing on the fact that I loved it#and I only spoke about it with other people who liked it#so yeah I was genuinely shocked when it was canceled because all I was seeing was positivity 🤷🏻♀️#marvel#mcu#agatha all along#agatha harkness#star wars#marvel fandom#kate's post
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Coining a phrase: Period atypical homophobia.
Definition: When the writer of a piece of historical fiction hasn't really bothered to research how gay people existed in a period of time or what terms would have been used to discuss homosexuality positively or negatively. So instead they put the most modern, likely religious terms into the mouth of a historical character to establish that a character is homophobic.
e.g. Having every Victorian character be a religious homophobe instead of having them talk about "public decency" and "discretion"
#historian consumes media#so many writers are not on the level of Oscar Wilde's boyfriend's father leaving a card calling him a “known sodomite”#as a way to tarnish his public image#this can also apply to how some people write historical racism tbh#I'd say that this comes (at least in the modern period) from people badly misunderstanding the public/private sphere#but political analysts get that wrong all the time too
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Could the Ace Attorney fandom stop pretending that Phoenix Wright or Miles Edgeworth or any of the main cast is white? Idgaf if the localized version is set in America. Asian Americans exist. You are consuming a piece of Asian-made media, not everything is about white people
#I need y’all to stop thinking of white people as the default setting#The amount of people in this fandom that whitewashes Edgeworth is insane#Surprise Asians can wear clothes outside our native cultures#Asian characters shouldn’t have to act explicitly or stereotypically Asian for you to acknowledge their heritage#This applies to other pieces of media too#Asian characters can exist in a modern setting they can exist in a Western setting#Please get rid of your orientalist lens because we are literally just people#Ace attorney#miles edgeworth#phoenix wright#literally so done with how this fandom of an Asian game treats Asians
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Leave it to DC comics to write a character getting borderline/actually SA’d just for them to disregard it and pretend it never existed
#THERE’S SO MANY INSTANCES WHERE A CHARACTER GETS SA’D BUT ITS NOT TAKEN SERIOUSLY#this applies to other media too#i hate it so much when a character gets harrased and it was just done for laughs#if u write about sa pls take it seriously😭#dc comics#batman#batfamily#bruce wayne#dick grayson#tim drake#jason todd#batfam#nightwing#red hood#red robin#also so many of the batfam members have been SA’d#its so concerning and its just brushed off😭
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Gays really love running away instead of being vulnerable with each other, huh?
#yes this is absolutely about Good Omens#how about that season 2 ending?#devastating#tbh this is also about OFMD for me#our flag means death#good omens#good omens 2#lgbtq#this might also be a self callout too if I'm being super honest#aziracrow#ineffable husbands#ineffable bureaucracy#ineffable divorce#blackbonnet#stedeward#gentlebeard#ofmd#also..#I know I tagged specific fandoms#but this literally applies to any other gay couple in media that fits this description
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-“I think we’re gonna have to kill this guy, Jet.” -“Damn.”
#and that’s a glock fact™️#anyways I’m 3000 years late to this meme 😭 but! I just hit 30 followers so I wanna share smth special :3#my fanart#jet black#greg otgw#fanart#cowboy bebop fanart#otgw fanart#I hecked up on Greg’s hands- they were too small and I applied the paint too heavily so I could barely ink over them when I finished ����#this is my favorite art that I’ve done of Jet tho!!#cowboy bebop#over the garden wall#bout that time of year for a rewatch#ugh I can’t believe it’s almost fall- that means it’s gonna be winter soon and I will suffer immensely#traditional media#I can never get the pictures of my watercolors to look right but this is close enough#fun fact tho: I spent MONTHS hemming and hawing over the sketch- his cybernetic arm can be so tricky to draw and in the reference photo—#—it wasn’t even with/shaped the same as his other arm and it fucked with me sm. took forever to get it to look right but I’m very pleased#might do a version of this without Greg bc that’s how happy I am with it
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people may accuse me of being problematic for "romanticizing" or even "sexualizing" this. i am doing NEITHER of these things. what i am doing is a secret third thing. and it's worse <3
#back-to-back reblogging hannibal and interview with the vampire always has me thinking about those posts that are like#'i can't believe you would romanticize this toxic relationship—'#i wouldn't actually! i'm aro i don't really care about the romance element at all! and i don't care about sex either. so.#i am engaging in the beautiful new tradition of finding a New way to glorify toxic relationships in the media <3#as long as they're absolutely soaked in blood <3#valentine notes#this applies to venom too obviously. but i live in a beautiful world where i don't engage with fandom#except through the filter of my beautiful wonderful mutuals.#so not only have i not seen anyone else's negative opinions on venom i haven't seen anyone's opinions at all <3
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I feel like now is a good time to announce that I’m in the process of moving blogs! Im doing so for a few reasons, the main one being paranoia, so for that reason I won’t be saying my new urls publicly so like please dm me if you’d like my new url so you can follow me there! I’ll be reblogging this post a lot so ppl can see it (so sorry if you get annoyed by that)!
I’m also remaking my discord account as well so if we’re friends on there then feel free to message me for my new username!
friends and mutuals please do reblog so shared friends/mutuals have a higher chance seeing it!
#whimsy whispers#I’m just like ahdjfjjg#I’ve been considering remaking blogs for a few years now (as some of you may know) and like simply changing urls isn’t enough#no matter how many times I chnage urls the paranoia won’t go away and I think that starting a new blog is the best choice#idk what to do if my newest blog gets found by the ppl I’m paranoid about like idk the odds of that are low (I hope) alas I’m still anxious#about it#for some slight context: I’ve had several people now pop up in my life pretending to be other people/several people and while I’ve blocked#then on every social media account I interacted with them in im still paranoid about them lurking#and then like there’s other reasons to remake as well#I’m tired of this blog like I love it it’s been fun but I think starting over will be nice#tbh this is the longest I’ve had a blog without remaking I usually remake accounts every so often#I don’t intend to remake my next blog like at all but like agdhjfjg I have a habit of getting bored of accounts and staring over (usually#this applies to art accounts like y’all wouldn’t believe how many deviantart accounts I’ve had)#uhhhh idk I’ve been rambling for too long#I have this in drafts rn but you should be seeing this post soon
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We are, all of us, stardust—held together, by love, for an instant.
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#drops this here and leaves#the dragon prince#aaravos#Viravos#applies to ziravos too#this is from a list of quotes from other media
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The way people write John in fic bothers me so much sometimes. Not to judge other people’s writing specifically, just the general fanon characterization of John Winchester. Yes he’s bad a father. Horrible. So much to unpack there. Yet I find it so disappointing when I go to read a fic and he’s like. Cartoonishly villainous. Excluding the fans that actually like John (which is even more crazy), it feels like everyone treats him as like this big bad one dimensional monster which imo is a disservice to the complex relationship Sam and Dean have with them. It’s also a symptom of a broader pattern in media, or even real world events. It’s so much easier to flatly paint anyone bad as inhuman, one dimensional, and just plain evil. Monstrous. But the reality is, every horrible person is still a person. Humans are capable of the evil we do, not monsters.
So when it comes to John, like yes, he is deeply deeply flawed. He really hurt his kids. But often when people write him, it feels like he makes all of his terrible decisions for the sake of being mean and terrible and abusive, which undermines the dynamic because the reality is people can be abusive or neglectful or toxic without being a complete monster 100% of time. It would almost be easier for Sam and Dean if John had actually been like that. But he was their father, who did what he thought was best, and loved them even if he didn’t show it. They have fond memories with him. He’s their father. Which is what makes it so hard for them to actually unpack the trauma they have, because it is so so difficult to realize a person you love is actually actively hurting you. Harder than realizing a villain in your life is just being a villain.
#idk just felt like rambling tonight lol. whenever I read fic with John it’s always like him being as awful as possible#even when it doesn’t align with any character motivations#spn#supernatural#this is a reflection of how we treat morality in media too imo#like there has to be a good guy and a bad guy that is just bad.#and then people apply it to real life. like oh obviously that terrible person is just a monster#but no!!! the people that are kind to you. the people that love you. the people you love. are capable of doing bad things.#and we blind ourselves to realizing when people are harmful by dehumanizing these people because then it be aimed harder to accept#when someone that seems good is actually not
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saw 'judges silently x constant yapper' applied to sskk but they did it WRONGG. no aku just LOOKS like a silent judger but hes NOT. hes a loud complainer. he has an inability to stfu. atsushi on the other hand is the worlds biggest silent judger. like half of his lines are not said out loud theyre actually his constant judgey internal monologue.
#i need everyone to stop applying those simplistic ship dynamics things to bsd actually bc bsd is simply good character media so theyre too#all too developed to sit nicely into Trait x Trait#can people let atsushi be a bitch its literally one of his funniest traits
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when you get so into writing your story that it makes your heart pound and hands feel shaky >>>>>>>>>>>
#that's when you know it's gonna be hard hitting#it's always the very very visceral devastating angst too#this is one of those things that applies to that post I made a while back where I'm like. when enjoying media are my#emotional/physiological responses somehow unintentionally sexual? and at this point I think I'm like. that isn't the point#especially writing platonic dynamics like I do. it's just about the angst and the devastation and that impacts me sometimes when I'm writing#Lu rambles
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Okay so as much as I dislike conflating Pokémon and Digimon, (they’re two shows that just so happen to be in the same genre and I think the comparisons should stop there. The bad faith ones anyway), how great the new Pokémon anime is has made me think about something.
Basically, I feel like Horizons has a lot of elements that I would love to see in a modern season of Digimon and I think the Digimon anime could take a page from their playbook. Which is funny since up until now I’ve always said the reverse.
Full rant bellow the cut to spare your time lines if you don’t want to read my rambles.
I split them into section going into Digimon first and then Pokémon if you want to skip around and don’t care about the other franchise. BUT, I will say that the point of this essay is that Pokémon Horizons is good, the first three seasons of Digimon are good and if you like one you should watch the other.
Anyway.
First I’m going to go into my history with Digimon and what I liked about the classic seasons and what I don’t like so much about the newer ones.
Basically, I love Digimon. Been hyper fixating on it off and on for twenty+ years. I’ve seen every season, subbed and dubbed multiple times, I’ve played a good chunk of the games, I play the TCG, ect.
Something that drew me to the Digimon anime over AniPoke, was the characters and the plot. In the early seasons Digimon tackled lots of difficult issues like divorce, adoption, death, loss, depression, among other things. But still kept a light hearted, feel good air. The characters felt deep and multi-faceted (At least in the sub), and I dare say are better written than some characters from some adult oriented anime out there. And they had cute monsters that evolved into bigger monsters and fought baddie monsters, what wasn’t there to love? The first three or so seasons did a fantastic job juggling characters, plot, cool creature fights, and cute and funny moments between the members of the cast. It never really felt like a commercial compared to contemporaries. It felt like the writers were creating something with soul, it was a story first and ad second. It felt like it had love.
Adventure, 02, and Tamers are my favorites. Bellow are some characters and their arcs I really enjoyed from those seasons, skip if don’t want spoilers.
I love Taichi’s arc of being reckless, and being one track minded to the point where he put all his friends in harms way and Yamato tries to act like this calm and cool lancer type but he’s actually the group heart and sensitive the way they bounce off each other and have conflicts throughout the series is just fantastic.
Ken in 02 and his whole arc of getting over the death of his brother and accepting the consequences of his actions as the Digimon Kaiser. And the way he slowly warms up to the group is so cute. I legit cried when I watched some of his episodes post kaiser as an adult.
Tamers as a whole is an extensional horror trip. Juri’s whole thing with her depression after the death of Leomon, how it related back to her trauma after losing her mom when she was younger, and the way the D-Reaper took advantage of that- I honestly don’t know how this was slipped into a kids show from the early 2000s.
A lot of these shows that started in the 90s and early 2000s were pledged with the “Glorified 20-25 minute toy ad” problem, and Digimon didn’t really seem to have that issue to me. It felt like the creators were putting the story and characters first, and an ad second or third.
The early seasons of Digimon felt like a celebration of childhood and was something that could be enjoyable to kids of all ages and adults alike. I don’t at all get that feeling that I’m watching a baby show when I watch early Digimon. It presents things in simple terms that kids could understand without talking down to its audience. It’s great.
And then the later seasons happened and Digimon forgot what made it great and lost its soul…
Xros wars was where the ball really seemed to drop in my opinion. Sure it still had the epic Kaiju fights but… that’s about it. Gone were the intense character moments and interesting plots. All we had was the special little marry sue of a boy Taiki who could do nothing wrong besides not “TURNING HIS BACK ON SOMEONE uwu”. And there was no overcoming adversity like in the earlier seasons, Taiki would just epically throw his Xros loader into the air and scream away his problems with a “DIGi-XROS!” (Sorry Taiki fans I can’t conceal my venom for this man)
And the monsters were just disappointing too. Like they were clunky and just looked like… toys.
It felt like Digimon had lost what made it tick and started to more closely resemble what I didn’t like about AniPoke, a toy commercial with a sanitized feel.
This continued for the next couple of seasons, only really picking up again in Appmon, but while Appmon is good and had it’s moments (I love the story with Yujin. He and Haru are totally roommates, cousins even), it still doesn’t compare to the heart the first three to five seasons had, imo.
Tri felt like a soulless nostalgia cash grab. Last Kizuna was good, it gave me hope for the anime again just to crush it all away with The Beginning.
I won’t get started on Adventure 2020 or we’ll be here all day. Needless to say it spat in the face of the show it was paying homage to.
Ghost Game got my hopes up, but then the last episode just took a dump on the rest of the show. It was fun, Kiyoshiro and Jellymon specifically were the stars of the show and GulusGammamon was interesting… until he wasn’t. It was fun, had a lot of potential with its horror feel, and was the closest to classic Digimon the modern seasons had been in awhile… at first anyway. It really shat the bed. And my problem with it don’t really relate to it being episodic in nature or anything, that can be done well. The characters just didn’t feel consistent (Especially Ruli) and it didn’t deliver on any of the plot intrigue it tried to stir up.
BUT! Ghost Game at least had… a little bit of heart. It felt like the creators knew their Digimon lore and did a fantastic job incorporating it into the monster of the week. I could really feel the love there.
Also on a side note, I am not just the Digimon equivalent to Gen-Oner, hating on things that are new and fetishizing the old. In fact, before I rewatched all of the seasons around 2020, I didn’t really care for the Adventure or Tamers. But my opinions did a total flip watching everything as an adult.
So, for a quick collection of thoughts before we move on to Pokémon:
What I like in a Digimon season:
1. Good characters with arcs that tackle bigger issues in a way kids can still understand and relate to without feel like they’re being talked down to.
2. Cute moments between members of the cast and their creatures.
3. Fights that feel like they mean something and aren’t just there for cool flashy effects.
4. A feeling of love and care for the franchise that goes beyond just trying to sell me toys and games.
Things I don’t like:
-OP mcs that solve every problem with the gimmick of the given seasons
-Flat, inconsistent characters that don’t feel like they have any agency or reason for doing what they’re doing besides that fact that they do indeed have Digimon.
-Pointless fights that are just there for no other reason than just to show a cool fight
-“BUY ALL OUR GAMES AND TOYS AT YOUR LOCAL HOBBY SHOP”
Okay now Pokémon.
Just like with Digimon here’s a little background with my history with the Pokémon anime
I’ve watched the original Pokémon anime up to Diamond and Pearl as a kid and I watched some of SM and most of Journey’s as an adult, but I’ve never really been big on anipoke.
Like at best it just felt like a cute show I could turn my brain off for and just vibe.
At worst it felt like a hyper sanitized toy/game commercial (Not blaming it, that was the anime’s main purpose after all).
Out of curiosity, I watched the new series. As much as I liked Ash, I really felt like he overstayed his welcome and they should have gotten rid of him and moved on ages ago since it felt like by DP there was nothing interesting to do with the character. The Pokémon world is huge and intresting, there was so much they could have done but Ash kind of felt like he bogged it down and stunted the anime’s growth past a point.
So yeah,I got excited when they finally pulled the plug and focused on a new set of characters so I gave Horizons a watch.
And I love it! It’s got heart, characters with development, a little bit of plot, and it’s cute? Like I was dumbfounded by the fact that a Pokemon anime, that I previously wrote off as just being a glorified ad, could be so good???
And then after thinking about what I liked so much about it, that’s when the topic of this essay hit me: Horizons feels like it has everything I long for in a modern Digimon anime, almost as if they took a page out of classic Digimon’s book. Like I always heard throughout the years that “Digimon had the better anime Pokemon has the better games” But Horizons really turned that on its head.
Let’s revisit my criteria for what I liked about the classic Digimon seasons from the section above to show what I mean. (Light Spoilers for Horizons ahead, though I wont go into specifics)
1. Good characters with arcs that tackle bigger issues in a way kids can still understand and relate to without feel like they’re being talked down to.
Yep. Horizons has that. Like the early seasons of Digimon, Horizons doesn’t just use it’s human characters as a vehicle to show you all the monsters you could catch if you bought the next game from your local shop for the low low price of 60 USD, nope. There feels like theres care there.
While they aren’t fully developed yet, Liko and Dot especially show huge character growth in the first 50 episodes. They focus on their flaws and how the characters overcome them.
Liko is very indecisive at first. She’s socially awkward, she feels like shes just going with the flow, afraid to take that first step to find out what she really wants out of life. Then, she finally does, she makes the decision to follow Friede and the Rising Volttacklers to find her new horizons. It’s great. And she still has lots of growing she can do later both as a trainer and as a character. She’s fantastic for a lead.
I also like how they use Sprigatito’s evolution as stand in for Liko’s growth so far in the series. Early Digimon did that too with the Crests in Adventure and the Bio Merging in Tamers and I always really like monster partners evolving to reflect their human so much, it’s such a good narrative device!
Dot slowly being brought out of her shell by Liko and the others is just- chefs kiss. She goes from being a reclusive shut in to slowly taking interest in the things Liko and co are doing and develops meaningful relationships with them. Her care for her friends and want to be there for them makes her take the first step and is now traveling around Paldea with them! And they went about this in a very well paced way where she still isn’t just magically over all her awkwardness and shut in tendencies yet. She too still has so much room for interesting development later down the road.
The adult characters are interesting too, even though they haven’t really done much yet. They really perfected that found family group of misfits trope that I’m usually pretty sick of. I love them.
And Amethio and the other villains also feel like they’re more than just your cackling evil for evil sake type characters and I’m super excited to see what they do with them!
And as far as the tackling bigger issues point: Though its just conjecture and I might be over thinking things (Though others in the fandom have pointed this out too) there’s definitely the groundwork for it here.
Liko’s family is very hands off and distant. Liko goes away to boarding school at the start of the series, her parents work, and her grandma is a vagabond traveling the world and doesn’t often stay in one place for long.
Liko lacks solid connections and foundation in her life due to her family being so closed off emotionally, which would explains her going with the flow and being unsure of what she really wants to do. She’s lost with no guidance. And it’s not like her family doesn’t love each other, no. They just don’t want to express their feelings for fear of it bogging each other down. They want Liko to be free to do what her heart tells her, but they’re so worried about talking things out that they don’t realize how that freedom has hurt Liko and made her into an anxious mess. (They even kind of hint at this in the second opening)
But yeah, like others have said, I’m not sure if this is on purpose or if they were trying to write Liko’s family to be full of strong women and just kind of accidentally fell into making them all feel too independent and distant from one another. And it would be really cool for the show to go into Liko’s home life more… but I’m not sure it would be on brand for Pokemon to talk about something so heavy. But fingers crossed!
2. Cute moments between members of the cast and their creatures.
Yep! Horizons has got plenty of it. Right now all of the main cast has two Pokemon each and they’re really taking the time to show off each Pokemon and give them a lot of wholesome moments together and with their trainers.
The human character interactions are great too! I really like the blossoming friendship between Liko and Dot (They could be roommates guys!) and the growing rivalry between Friede and Amethio! It’s great!
3. Fights that feel like they mean something and aren’t just there for cool flashy effects.
The fights in Horizons are so cool and well choreographed, but they aren’t just there to look pretty, not at all!
A lot of the fights that take place in the first two arcs are learning experiences for Liko, Roy, and Dot. They learn new strategies, their Pokemon learn new moves, and in the arc that’s airing at the time of writing, they’re learning how to terrestialize too. The fights don’t seem to happen without purpose and always seem like they either teach the characters a lesson about proper ways to be a trainer and even sometimes help them grow as characters too.
And theres even a healthy amount of losses and wins under the character’s belts and they drive home the lesson of “You learn more from a defeat”. I like how heavily they relied on the more experienced Friede at the beginning and they got frustrated from their losses and used it as fuel to want to learn to stand on their own two feet.
The fights are great and don’t just feel like a kid mashing two toys together like some series with battle elements can.
4. A feeling of love and care for the franchise that goes beyond just trying to sell me toys and games.
This is a little harder to explain and is more like a feel than anything. But I can definitely feel an air of care in Horizons that I don’t really see from shows that feel like twenty-three minute ads. The characters and story don’t just feel like they’re trying to sell me something.
While they’re definitely leaning heavy on the Paldea setting right now, it doesn’t feel like a straight adaption of the games. They don’t really do the “creature of the day” or “character of the day” type episodes like I remember seeing in past iterations of Anipoke. Horizons doesn’t have those moments that I feel like the character is looking right at me and saying “Buy Buy Buy”
And, at least so far, there seems to be a love for Pokemon with the way the reference Pokédex entries like with Hatenna being sensitive to strong emotions or what not.
Like I said, this is really more of a personal criteria and some people can be more sensitive to this kind of thing than others. The closest thing I can compare it to is like when you’re eating a meal a loved one made for you versus something you got at a diner or fast food restaurant. You don’t know how to put your finger on it but you can just taste the love… it’s like that with Horizons to me.
So yeah!
If you’ve read this far, thanks for listening to me rant! I’ll try to wrap it up here.
Basically I just really like Horizons. It gives me that same feel as when I was rewatching the classic Digimon seasons a view years ago… And like the way Horizons fixed all of the problems I had with Anipoke as a kid and as an adult is awesome, it really feels like Pokemon Company is making an effort to listen to criticism and better the series… I just really hope the Digimon anime can do the same.
Oh and all of this is just my opinion, if I said something that you don’t agree with about Digimon or Pokémon, I meant no offense and I’m happy to hear your opinions too!
I just want to close this by saying…
Fans of early Digimon, go watch Pokemon Horizons! You wont regret it!
Fans of Horizons go watch (the sub) of the first three or so seasons of Digimon! If you like Horizons and didn’t really click with Ash era Anipoke I think you’ll really have a good time, it’s so good!
I think both series could use more love, so go out there and give them both a watch!
Okay I’ll shut up now, thanks for reading!
#dumb rant#I think too hard about kids anime from the 90s#i just have a lot of feelings#pokemon#pokemon horizons#anipoke#digimon#digimon adventure#digimon adventure 02#digimon tamers#digimon anime#digimon xros wars#digimon universe appli monsters#digimon ghost game#digimon tri#digimon last evolution#digimon the beginning#media analysis#text post
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istg theres no better way to get into a piece of media than by watching/reading/listening to it with somebody who already knows and adores said thing. The joy and excitement is INFECTIOUS.
#this is about star wars for me specifically#but it can apply to so many things#hannibal#TAZ#gundam#kpop#merlin#bg3#zelda#the raven cycle#you name it#all my best and most recent media-related memories come from a friend being like HEY i love this thing sm and neeeed you to love it too#even better if it was a somewhat formative piece of media for them and you can literally see how it shaped them as a person#ugh and when you get to BE the person sharing the thing??#and you can watch someone else fall in love with the thing in real time???#THE BEST#if one of ur friends adores a thing you know nothing abt please hear them out#could change ur whole life you never know
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Sometimes people criticize popular media because there are actual things that may be bad or need addressing, and sometimes people criticize popular media because they have a personal grudge against either the media or the creator of said media and just want to have something to be angry about. And it’s important to analyze our own motivations each time to make sure we haven’t slipped into the second one, which isn’t healthy for anyone involved.
#river ponders#media#criticism#this probably applies to other things too#just thinking about stuff like video games or movies getting randomly accused of bad representation based on circumstantial evidence#heck sometimes the thing being accused reflects more on how the accuser's mind makes associations than on any actual associations made by#that media#anyhoo
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we all know that Goku and Vegeta's foil in terms of their divine transformations is literally just Freud's Id vs Ego, right
Like how id is raw instinct with no particular pattern and ego is the conscious command over one's instincts
like how Goku's body moves on its own without any conscious input, and Vegeta still has complete and distinctly conscious autonomy while flooded with immense power he has no experience controlling
like we must have talked about this, right? as a family?
#those chapters are several years old I assume this has been brought up#like instinct and ego definitely have their other fun meanings that apply too but like the core of it is -- I assume -- a direct reference?#I stand by my original breakdown about ego being a scary ugly thing in terms of common definition but also geets claiming to be tapping tha#instinctive destructive patterns but can't revert to it and instead spends the whole fight trying to talk down a man trying to kill him#that is also very definitively Freud's Ego. Command over instinct. The horseback rider in control of the horse etc#Which -- again -- makes it a FANTASTIC contrast to Majin Geets which was a panicked instinctive choice that sacrificed his autonomy#Majin Geets was the horse up until he overpowered Bobidi [insert old joke about horses only have two settings: murder and suic!de]#And ego despite his outward ferality and ferocity is actually calmly and confidently in absolute control of himself and his desires#the illustrated difference between arrogance and confidence which makes the characters calling it a weird ego boost both funny and ironic#media analysis#dbtag
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