#and the ableism (bc thats what it is. its ableist) of telling autistic people that Actually they dont know any better wrt their sexuality

[vaugarde]

got to the autism scale bit. the context is that shes raging about his reaction to chimera falin which apparently makes him a “sociopath” and a monster. she doesnt even mention autism til after the scale, she doesnt mention what the scale is for (she puts her own oc on it???)

im gonna do her autism takes as a lightning round

-“autism doesnt take over your life so much that it makes you incapable of taking a serious situation seriously” first of all great writing there, second of all yes it can??????

-this reeks of internalized ableism all around

-“you get cranky when someone tells you infodumping is rude :/” good lord this is just ableism. its not internalized or implied its just straight up ableist. oh but she prefaced this with “oh are you an autistic person who infodumps at funerals?” so she can defend that with “SO YOU THINK INFODUMPING AT FUNERALS IS OK?????” so smart. also nice strawman that is definitely real and related to your point in every way.

-this is basically just “well if laios IS autistic then hes a BAD autistic who makes me uncomfortable bc hes visibly autistic in a way i dont like!!!”

-she talks like laios is a real person who murdered her family by infodumping about monsters for too long

-“autistic people arent so ignorant that they cant tell when something is supposed to be taken seriously” you. you mean like. missing a social cue? one of the most common symptoms of autism???!

-she’s doing autism pick me bullshit. wow you dont miss social cues. wow you pay attention all the time (not really but whatever). wow you dont infodump. wow autistic people who do all those things piss you off and make you uncomfortable. should we give you a reward? should we call autism speaks.

-she just referenced her incest ocs as like a better example that laios should stick too?????????????? is she literally getting pissed hes not having sex with falin? is this real? is she actually saying this?

edit: oh i forgot to include this, i liveblogged this in two spaces. i was confused why she wasnt mentioning toshiro bc thats a good example of ppl actually being weird and inappropriate abt his autism coding and using it to be racist and rude to another character, but she did mention that argument….. in a very very shallow way where she doesnt even name him, literally calls him “this guy” (no relation to falin or anything), doesnt explain his deal beyond “calls laios out on his bullshit” and claims laios is only in the wrong bc he says he eats proper meals unlike toshiro (which isnt relevant to her point and is in reference to toshiro being malnourished and the latter being rude abt him eating monster) not bc laios overstepped and also insulted toshiro’s manners. though ig she’d call that a “rare laios w” or something because thats laios picking at toshiros culture in anger. also she doesnt mention how it was a small thing that boiled and boiled til a stressful situation where it exploded and its not reflective of how the characters will act going forward

against my better judgement im watching a reupload of the lily dunmeshi vid and seeing how she starts off her vid ranting abt how much she hates her own fanbase again really reminded me how like. ngl i feel like watching her vids contributed a lot to my mental health issues as a teen lmao

[pyreshe]

not to start shit on a thursday afternoon but i cannot deal with peeps who are like "this character can't be ace AND autistic, that's infantilizing," .......like there aren't whole ass ace and autistic people out there irl living their lives. u wanna tell them that they're infantilizing themselves by being ace or that they're too naive and dumb to know their own sexuality?

that being said, this is one of the times I think it's important to like ask why the headcanon is being made and in the case of allistic people who arent ace, ask themselves Why they have this headcanon.

like there are for SURE clowns who do actually just wanna remove an autistic or autistic coded character from shipping equations and think asexuality will further cement them as an "uwu soft innocent bean" or w/e who can't get in the way of their otp (even tho. that's not how asexuality works, but I digress) but a good chunk of these headcanons are being made by ace people on the spectrum who are going "what if they were like me :)!" (something literally everyone in fandom spaces does btw) and telling them that they're doing something Wrong for that? not great!

[c12ly]

✨️ My autistic/adhd headcanons: ✨️

Dipper Pines

From Gravity Falls

Mabel being autistic and adhder is a popular headcanon I've seen several times, but I dont understand how no one seems to care about poor Mason guy. I mean, its clear for me that he is autistic as well. He struggles in social situations, has anxiety, wears the same outfit everyday to avoid wasting time thinking about what to wear, the diaries and the author are clearly his special interests to the point he doesn't sleep bc of it, he stims without even noticing by chewing pens when he's stressed plus he's probably trans.

Star Butterfly

From Star vs the forces of evil

This is a headcanon I've seen a little discussion on and I completely agree. Star behaves differently than those around her and although the show tried this to look like a cultural shock cause shes from another dimension, even in Mewni the only one who understands her is her father. She has echolalia, she happy stims by jumping and clapping, she hyperfocus/obsess, cant stand boredom, always find a way to have fun, she cant get the hint that someone dont like her; Marco was running away terrified of her while she was happily waving at him and saying goodbye and when Britney told her she would invite her to her party when pigs fly she took it literally. She's passionate, resolve things her way, can have strong emotional reactions, shes creative, very energetic and with a strong sense of justice.

Spongebob

I dont even know where to start, not only bc it is incredibly obvious hes autistic, but also it makes angry that his autistic traits are portrayed as annoying in the show and the ableist inside it.

His special interests are krabby patties. He loves his work, although its not even a work for him, its his life, he loves doing this with a passion, he don't want to stop doing it and gets depressed when Mr Crabs forces him to have some vacations.

He can became hyperfocus/obsessive, specially when it comes to krabby patties and the krusty crab in general.

He is very sensitive and experience his emotions very strongly, hes caring and get attached easily.

He doesn't get when people dont like him, although he is aware that he annoys Squidward and even have a day only to annoy him with Patrick, the rest of his interactions with him or anyone, he doesn't seems aware, something thats portrayed as "dumb" which I totaly hate btw.

He acts younger than he is, even some citizens of bikini bottom refer to him as a kid, when he's actually 20 something. More like an adult who does whatever he wants and makes him happy to me. It doesn't seem like he dislikes being called a kid by others but it stills annoy me a bit cause the ✨️ ableism ✨️ yk.

He has an "inappropriate" and "annoying" laugh and in general he is "annoying" and it piss me off that all that considered annoying are nd traits, and it personally annoys me more bc Spongebob has been my favorite cartoon since I'm like four and most of the think he does, I do them too.

Luz Noceda

From the owl house

Since episode one u can tell she has adhd and how the principal(? of her school and her mom, instead of trying to understand her, only want her to change and bahave like she should. Not like the spiders where the best idea but still, they also wanted her to stop engaging on her silly fantasy books. Very understandable she decided to stay at the boiling isles.

She lives in her own world. She's full of creativity, passion, new ideas, she wants not only to explore the world, she want to do it now, like, rn. Shes also very energetic, always ready for an adventure or a lecture as long as shes interested.

Oscar

From Summer Camp Island

He is so clearly autistic to me. He has difficulties with change and adapting, something we see the moment he arrives at the camp and his parents leave; he even tries to leave bc this new environment, all the changes, being away from the safety his parents represent its too much for him.

Hes anxious asf, hes clumsy and a little clingy. He get his confidence when he feels safe with his friends and in the moment theyre not around he starts getting worried.

He is a calm guy who likes doing things his way and prefer staying at his cabin, chill and cozy but who also likes and is willing to go on adventure as long as he feels comfortable and safe with his friends, from which he gets his strength.

Reassurance and a book are enough to make him happy.

I love him. Hes also the character i relate the most with from this list (I relate to all except from Dipper and Neddy).

Neddy

From adventure time

Same thing as with Dipper and Mabel, Neddy is Princess Bubblegum brother, her being autistic is a well known headcanon but Neddy, oh man, hes pretty much too but since he has so little screen time I wouldn't be surprised if people dont even remember him.

He is non verbal and very very sensitive to noise and change, being Bonnies song the only thing that can calm him during a meltdown.

There's not much else to say, Bonnie and Neddy is the only episode hes part of, but i think thats enough. Since the very beginning, he seemed very overwhelmed by the different environments and noises him and Bonnie were facing after leaving the mother gum. He desseperatily cries and tries to run away from the danger or discomfort hes feeling.

I really wish he had at least another episode to see his relationship with his family and to understand and get to know him more, apart from the ending scene in which Bonnie and their aunt are singing to him.

(For the record, i dont like Bonnie but i do like this quote from Bonnie and Neddy. It also goes pretty well with this post.)

[cloudy-dayys]

i don't think people talk about how a lot of autistic/nd ppl are treated as pets. like we all talk about how nt ppl nd mentally healthy ppl just are ableist towards us with hatred nd want us gone sure, but when they mask said ableism in the form of positivity nd treating us like an actual pet is so inhumane.

it took me a long time to understand people saw me as a dog. they dont see me as human. i was treated like when you saw a person walking their dog nd u ask them if you can pet it.

in the beginning, i just thought it was ppl being nice to me. i was wrong.

my last 2 exs (nd my ex's ex as well) referred to me as a golden retriever. they pet me like a dog. whenever i stimmed, they said 'awww thats so cute' like when a dog would roll over. they even referred to the chokers i wore as dog collars. it made me feel subhuman. it made me feel like i was more of a trophy around these people and their friends rather than a human being. i began to mask and hold things down subconsciously bc i couldn't recognize the sheer resentment i had when they treated me as such.

my experiences feel very isolating. i feel very alone in this type of ableism. i was never truly equal with these ppl bc the moment they saw me as neurodivergent, i had already lost the respect nd dignity i deserved. i was a prop.

this stunted my view bc its easy to spot red flags when ppl are inherently ableist sure, but to have ur kindness be taken advantage of bc ur neurodivergent and can't even RECOGNIZE these ppl treating u as below human bc they still act 'nice' about it is what got to me. im too fucking autistic to tell when theres a good kind of nice towards me nd when theres a bad kind of nice towards me.

being treated as an animal in a 'nice' way is smth i never see talked about or whatever when talking about autistic struggles and experiences. i feel very alone in this aspect bc its a whole different kind of way to be taken advantage of, i suppose.

[latulasbian-1]

what are your thoughts on kankri? personally i never understood the appeal and im interested to hear your take since he Was on the b tier of your list

OK! Sorry for lateness but I only noticed your question at like 2:00 AM and needed a full tank of brain-gas to be able to convey my thoughts even semi-coherently. 

So Kankri’s a weird one, probably one of the most convoluted and self-contradictory characters in Homestuck. Its fitting given he’s pretty much a one note joke and hussie’s one-note joke characters actually wind up being either his most oddly complex (see: equius and feferi for instance) or most sympathetic (see: Nepeta). Kankri’s a bit of both imo, though I wouldn’t call him a favorite for me. 

Kankri’s characterization is built almost entirely on one fuckin’ note: “LOL AIN’T TUMBLR SJWs FUNNY AND ANNOYING!?!?!?”. If you disagree with this then I don’t even know what to tell you, bc everything from his style of long-winded monologues (that wind up running up on Hussie Ableism Moments bc in-narrative his infodumping is supposed to be annoying???) to his inability to take social cues to his supposed-to-be-interpreted-as-excessive use of trigger warnings to his unapologetic killjoy attitude to his supposed hypocrisy/”privilege” are literally all just a fucking layer cake of anti-SJW stereotypes. This is where the issue of how the fandom interprets Kankri kicks in, as people’s opinions on him (aside from a few diehards) tend to scale from “DAWWW CUTE WIDDLE UPPITY BEANBOY” to “fucking annoying neoliberal”. For the matter, neither of these are intended by Hussie, while he did design him to be cute he wasn’t meant to be hateable for leftist homestuck fans as a (neo-)liberal or faux leftist. Hussie just designed him after everyone hussie found annoying in the social justice community primarily on tumblr. Even his political monologues, though not WITHOUT hypocrisy and bullshit, tend to actually skew towards “pretty fucking reasonable hussie just thinks people being upset by bad stuff is stupid”.  

Now, people cite Kankri being ableist in his criticism of certain other dancestors for ~conforming to stereotypes~, which yes from an in context scenario is pretty fucking bad. If someone IRL is dealing with their disability in a way you think seems pretty stereotypical keep that thought to yourself. HOWEVER, AS ONE OF THE MOST CRUCIAL POINTS TOWARDS KANKRI BEING GENERALLY SYMPATHETIC, WE GET THE META ELEMENT. Hussie, in writing a hypocritical mansplainer who goes on and on and on about everything thats politically incorrect about the people around him, practically beat-for-beat replicates talking points PEOPLE HAVE USED TO CRITICIZE HOMESTUCK ITSELF. YES! MITUNA’S PRESENTATION AS A CHARACTER IS 100% UNAMBIGUOUSLY AWFUL IN ITS PORTRAYAL OF PEOPLE WITH BRAIN INJURIES AND MENTAL DISORDERS. DAMARA IS A RACIST STEREOTYPE SO BAD HUSSIE SHOULD GET THROWN IN JAIL. INCEST IS BAD. If ANYONE in homestuck should’ve pulled the meta knowledge shit in post-canon, kankri would’ve been a WAYYYYYY better candidate than dirk for it, especially since kankri seems halfway to realizing he’s fictional just by political analysis of the story he’s in! Kankri seems to exist at the apex of Hussie’s confusion about fandom, given he’s baffled enough by people being obsessed with his work yet so intensely negative that he can only seem to think of them as obsessive manchild wierdos with no sense of rational thought. As someone who myself unironically loves Homestuck and yet have an entire third of my brain dedicated to ripping it apart on an ethical level, I can see some of myself in that turtleneck’d contrarian. Just because someone is a fan of something doesn’t mean they will or should unthinkingly defend it from all recourse. This is something homestuck as a whole struggles with, I think back to the aspect or extended zodiac quiz where one of the questions amounted to “someone is talking shit about a show you like, how do you respond” and there wasn’t even an answer for “actually listen to what they’re trying to say and consider if they could be right”. Kankri is a symbol of sorts for those critical enjoy-ers, in a way. A stupid silly not-that-meaningful way, but a way. I think people should reclaim him. 

I’ve touched on it a bit before, but the last main sympathizing aspect of kankri for me (aside from personality things like his frankly unearned patience with a friend group that entirely fucking hates his guts) is a trait share by almost all the dancestors: Hussie’s fucking disturbing use of mental illness & psychiatric disorders with them. Between Kankri’s unwillingness to observe common social cues, his overtly poised and practiced manner of speaking, his obsession with using trigger warnings to warn off confrontation in leu of not just speaking his mind with everything, his tendency to cling to certain articles of clothing for long periods of time, his implied difficulty taking care of himself physically, and the fucking insulting “mom-friend useless-manchild-who-needs-nannying” dynamic he has with Porrim, he comes off (intentionally or no) as a beat-for-beat embodiment of an autistic person as seen through Hussie’s tropey and horribly ableist worldview. This is a common trait he shares with both Aranea and Mituna, as well as many of the other dancestors to lesser degrees (many of them, like Mituna, also have OTHER mental disorders flat-out-stated in such a way that makes their depiction just fucking confused and bad). For me, and for at least SOME other people, it makes unbiased critical reactions to them damn near impossible. They deserve better than how hussie can write them. In a lot of ways I have friends like Kankri, and Hussie’d almost fucking certainly find them just as embarrassing and annoying as he meant for Kankri to be. 

So yeah, Kankri isn’t my favorite by any means but i don’t feel like i can or should condemn him. He’s fun. I’d watch his video essays. 

And this isn’t even BEGINNING to touch on how much I loathe Porrim as an example of “good cool fun feminists that hussie can sexualize!” And her more open bisexuality than other trolls being both a tool for fetishization by Hussie and a fucking skin-crawling thing to use as a contrast for Kanaya’s status as either “the only confirmed lesbian in homestuck (until postcanon showed rose was a lesbian too)” or “the only lesbian troll in existence ever bc thats totally how sexuality would work with aliens” (sorry if you ascribe to the “all trolls are bisexual bc they’re supposedly binormative as a get-out-of-jail-free card for hussie’s hetero-ass ship tease shit” then. well get better soon) 

(seriously though everyone who pulls the “kanaya is the only lesbian alternian” shit owes every lesbian 100 dollars) 

[forcedsense]

People always get so offended when I tell them that I’m allowed to call myself an idiot/dumb/whatever but theyre not allowed to call me that and then get mad at me if i call them out on it while playing games oe whatever (not abt the rpc this is abt the rl ex friend lol) and im just like;;; we might share autism but heres the thing, I’m allowed to call myself an idiot bc i live with myself. You’re not allowed to insult me because a: its rude, and b: you’re literally calling me an idiot due to my not having a sense of direction and play styles due to my disabilities.

The very fact people STILL dont understand why insulting someone for their disabilities, or flat out saying ‘your lack of attention just proves youre the worse xx player ever!!’ is literally just ableism and offensive is why i have trust issues and am tired of other people. I am allowed to joke about my problems because I have to live with them, and in manyways yes I am just an idiot, like how I was an idiot for not realizing that a grown ass man one month younger than me always relying on me to pay for shit to do w him, guilting me out of things i want to do because he decided it was stupid, insulting half the shit i liked saying it and anyone who enjoys it is stupid, regularly using the R-slur when something dumb is done/happens (ableism aGAIN), refusing to get a license because he ‘doesnt feel like it’, doesnt even try to get a job anymore after a few rejections (which, I’ve applied hundreds of places and never even received a rejection, so im starting to wonder the validity of those statements too) and saying its because his mother wants to force him into one, abusing his siblings by screaming at them and gaslighting them constantly, but I’m the idiot and the asshole because I’m disabled, or I don’t always think first before soing things (which has led to my doing shitty or stupid things, but I have the remarkable capability of admitting when I was wrong unlike these fuckheads who, when you flat out explain in detail what they did wrong, claim youre gaslighting and abusing them when youre telling them its inappropriate and wrong to guilt trip, be ableist, insult others intelligence, and ignoring when people ask you to stop, and all the times he joined my streams and would use my birth name after I asked him not to and to use my pen/alias, always accounting it to ‘forgetting’ but after 30+ times of being told, its no longer forgetting, like thats just putting unnecessary risk and ignoring personal preferences. I won’t even go into all the bitchfits about ‘gender discussion’ or anything because it still makes me sick and gave me severe imposter syndrome for my body dysmorphia.

Respect the disableds wishes, We should not have to explain this to you. Basic human decency should just be a given, and someone telling you in detail why what youre doing is wrong, and ignoring it and repeating it again (I’ve told him before that insulting me, calling me names, and otherwise hurt my feelings and I don’t want to risk any relapses. He ignored these and continued, he’d screencap my making mistakes and putting bad things in the wrong chat, and when I would apologize for what I did when I was wrong, he’d still hold it over my head and claim I suicide baited when I didn’t. I say whats happening and assume its fine since i was always there for him when he needed me, even after he actualy suicide baited me by claiming my using a joke on him he repeatedly used on me made him suicidal and that i owed him an apology, ive literally been walking on eggshells for years and finally not having him in my life has actuallybeen so much more freeing than I ever thought it would be. )

Disabled people are very often the centerfold of abusive relationships because we’re so used to the mistreatment that its almost a fucked up comfort, we feel like our complaining about mistreatment is us ‘overreacting’ because the able bodied constantly convince us it is. That we’re always the problem whether we make mistakes or do something bad and that our apologies are always fake and wrong, but when people do horrible things to us we’re not owed an apology, rather we always owe them. It’s fucked up and wrong, and honestly exhausting. We’re not punching bags to make the able bodied feel better about themselves. Whats fucked up is hes also autistic, and should know better, but is so self possessed that all the friendships hes lost and regained over the years have never been his fault, he was always ‘being abused’ by everyone, everyone somehow is always in love with him and gaslighting him, and ive come to terms with the fact its a mental fuck up of a self centered individual so narcissistic that he cant handle the idea hes ever in the wrong.

If I talkedabout this to people, they would claim I was in the wrong for not worrying about his feeings more or ‘putting up with it because it helps him feel better, he goes through a lot at home’. Being treated shittily doesnt give you a free pass to abuse your supposed friends. His dads a piece of shit and his mom (who honestly was an amazing person as far as I saw and his siblings would talk about. but he personally always claimed she’d turn into a monster randomly for saying he should get a job or try to succeed in life, and for applying for jobs for him that e purposefully failed the interviews for. These are the exact reasons he’d bitch about her, and occasionally because he’d overhear hee claiming he was wasting his life, which is horrible to hear but still does not excuse insulting your friends, belittling their success, insulting them for their disabilities, and going through your friends for supply and then dumping them and ‘accepting them back after they apologize’ whenever you need more validation. My family life is fucked to high heaven and I still try to be kind to people, I still try to educate people, and I still do my best even if I fuck up. And when I fuck up, I own up to it and apologize. Something people always ignore and pretend never happened, because to them the disabled are incapable of apologies.

Stop talking over us, stop treating us like shit, and stop purposefully hurting us, our feelings, insulting us, and using us to make you fee better. We are not punching bags, we are real people with real issues and all your shitty behavior does is add to it.

[autisticstarseed]

lmao sorry to be that bitch but let me put tumblr ableism this way. autistic people annoying you by being cringe or uptight, <<<<<<<<<<<< Centuries of abuse, Murder, eugenics, violence, exploitation, and ongoing systemic oppression. the r word was written on our medical records as a legal excuse to lock us up in torturous abusive hospitals for the rest of our lives. the murder of us has been encouraged and normalized in many different aspects of society as a ‘putting them out of their misery’ solution. ive had people tell me they feel bad that my parents ‘let me live’. we’ve been sterilized and left to die and after all that we’re still here. so idk like. lmao you’re gonna listen and not make jokes when we tell you you fucked up even if you think its ‘too much’ bc you’re gonna live through it! not all of us have lived through allistic ‘’’fuck ups’’’ before, tbh!! and sit down for this one but yall u r grown you can seriously fucking handle being a decent person and letting that rando talk about how supernatural is their special interest as a completely harmless attempt at positive Social interaction on your entirely public not personal Social media post you made for Socializing with people ! like dude sd;l;sosdfk im so sorry an autistic came and ruined your post how awful for you ig but idk why that makes oyu all feel so fucking Oppressed when that shit happens lmao like. stop WHINING abt such meaningless social awkwardness to actual oppressed people you fake activist cringe bitches, you are not oppressed by autistic people talking. you’re not oppressed by us Existing. we’re not ‘’‘rude'’’ and its not hurting you, ur just rly that sensitive to divergence frankly and obsessed with being conformist to ur own standards that you built in society while intentionally oppressing and rejecting us and think your comfortable existence trumps making ours less miserable. i mean for gods sake. you can ignore us. like how is your behavior not telling when as an oppressed person i have to say, please, just fucking ignore us if you hate our interactions with you that much instead of harassing us publicly about it.

autistic people are not oppressing you, your social ideals are a prison, and well if you’re allistic uh, you sure do have some oppressive history towards others (aka blood on your hands) that you should take the fuck into account and recognize before you start letting yourself develop even an Ounce of disdain towards us. including the fucking ‘’’annoying’’’ ones. like. oh my god activism isnt abt picking and choosing whos relatable and fun enough to have in ur cool minority gang tm fuck you hollow ass club mentality people to Hell, but have you really not considered you might just be boring and restrictive if the mere sight of someone elses passion that you cant wholly resonate with makes you like Intolerably uncomfortable. have yall considered that Your idea of annoying could have inherently ignorant/bigoted concepts ingrained in it bc you benefit from privilege in an ableist allistic centric society. also have you considered gargle my dick and balls if you think autistic ppl owe you the regulation of our harmless behaviors for your nowmal people comfowt like. oh my Goddd you guys thats not a real problem and at the very least ur cringe is not Comparable to what we go thru everyday just shut up like it is so funny when you all act like we are Forcing you into Emotional Labor bc we try to talk to you and also experience autism symptoms at the same time or try to tell you that u did smth bigoted to us like sjdfsjdfs bite me bitch you’re oppressing me not the other way around. ‘wah wah the cringe autism tumblr kinnie wants to talk abt su’ mam autistic ppl are actually oppressed can u please get over this attitude ur embarassing urself