#and miguel guy i hate

[crxwes]

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[juice-boxy]

Why are you reblogging Hobie and Pavitr ship art...you know Pav is dating someone already right? Its not canon...?

Why is Miguel O'Hara in my inbox

[functioningtrashcan]

One thing that really bugs me about certain fandoms now (specifically the Spiderverse fandom at the moment) is that it's downright impossible to like certain characters around *those* fans.

Like, I can't say ONE good thing about Miguel's characterization without hearing about how Miguel fans are horny weirdos who condone abuse.

Sure, a lot of Miguel fans are horny as all hell, but liking a character =/= thinking they are perfect and can do no wrong. Hell, even *understanding* a character's motives doesn't even mean we're condoning it.

Yeah, Miguel was 100% wrong for chokeslamming Miles into a train. But, at the same time, I could understand getting pissed and freaking out about one (1) kid who's about to cause the multiversal apocalypse via messed up trolley problem. I can understand feeling like no one else is taking the situation seriously, and that you have to do everything yourself because you can't even rely on more than 4 people in your strike force of probably millions. I, too, would get mad at a hardheaded teenager who seems ready to make the same mistake I made that cost me my family.

I can, at the same time, understand being young and scared, trying to prevent a family member's death, not knowing who to trust, and running for my life because there's not a single person in the multiverse who seems willing to honestly help.

That's the beauty of not being trapped in the narrative: you can simultaneously see and appreciate *every* character's perspective, because all those perspectives influence the characters' actions and the story as a whole. I don't *have* to condone a character's actions to like them or their role in the story.

And it would DEFINITELY make the fandom space less insufferable to contribute to if half the fans weren't so obsessed with being perfectly moral angels who only support cinnamon rolls who can do no wrong. But that just me, I guess.

[improbable-outset]

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[baselicoc]

i know that atsv and spiderverse in general is probably not including Gabe for various reasons and therefore when Mig took his alt selfs place he wasnt actually leaving anyone behind. he said something along the lines of “i found a universe where i was happy” which kinda screams that something was fucked up with his home one, i’d like to think more than usual because the other explanation is that he just left like all his family behind. Which is extremely messed up but also on the other hand a little funny

like imagine being gabe here. Imagine your older brother fucks off to another universe because of his depression and comes back with even worse depression ranting some shit about canon events. You have to be told where he went by his AI because god knows your brother has all the communication skills of a rusty spoon. Have to be told he fucking left with no intention of coming back

[literallygwenandvi]

happy birthday miguel you’re not ugly ALL the time i guess

[emloafs]

and what's everyone gonna do when they find out i've got a hawkmetri to all the boys i've loved before au half written in my drafts

what would happen if i said that

[animemenrock]

this took me two hours to make

[walkineternity]

Okokok I get Miguel is a bit of an ass, but who is the one that is *really* beefing with a 15 year old?

This fucking guy:

Spot was blaming all his problems on a child before anyone else in this movie lol

[dramatic-delirium]

AU where Howl is considered Spiderman because his house is filled with them.

By Howl I mean Mr Howell Jenkins who owns a castle that can float.

By them I mean spiders. He houses spiders. The absolute madman. No particular reason, he just likes them. (And how they fix their webs even if you ruin them forever, which is cute but also I do not have the stomach to have spiders crawling around in my bedroom my guy)

Also he has no noticable powers, nor actual responsibilities tbh. He's Spiderman like how spider-therapist is Spiderman.

He's is not contacted by Spider society because Miguel is jealous of him sustaining a family in another universe doesn't like anomalies. Howl knows of Spider-verse and all but is, as always, an unbothered icon.

Nothing different happens.

[kurtmustdie]

Everyone whose first thought was to sexualize Miguel during and after watching the movie are going to hell btw.

[cobra-wives]

yknow what. i really liked kyler and miguel’s conversation at the college. “the safety’s always gonna be there. but you gotta chase after that dream” was genuinely beautiful line and if this is the last we see of kyler… i’m happy about it. everyone has been giving miguel the realistic and dream crushing choice that yeah, he’ll have to settle for community college, but the guy that kicked his ass before he stepped foot into his sophomore year is telling him he thinks he can go places if he lets himself try and that to me is great for miguel.

[p3achj3llyf1sh]

I fucking hate him so much if miguel has zero haters i am dead

[c1trvswurld]

What the spiderverse Fandom did to Miguel hobie and gwen-in fact all the main cast is evil and cruel and all ya bitches need your Fandom rights taken away ASAP

[lildoodlenoodle]

Hamnoir shippers, I love you

[torgawl]

SOEMONE IS REALISTIC AHSNWHSJSJ