#and i would kill for this in dunmeshi tbh
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britcision Ā· 9 months ago
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Oh this is the middle/end of the second season shit is going to get REAL pretty dang quick and I guarantee not a single one of you is prepared for how
I sure as hell wasnā€™t šŸ‘€
Yā€™all ainā€™t even met the best characters yet
Man, even the smallest of side character in Dungeon have such heart and impact.
So in chapter 78, the elves (led by Flamella) have an opportunity to kill Laios. They believe that he is certain to fall to the Winged Lion and doom them all, and they have told everyone else as much. Laios friends and acquaintances, though conflicted, stand by.
The orcs are the first to protest. They are ready to fight for Laios (and their own best chance for freedom, through him). But no one else takes action.
Until...
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Oh hey, it's Doni!! From what, like... chapter 3?? That's cute. It's even kind set up, since you can see him and Fionil in the chapter before this, reacting to the news that Laios defeated the Mad Sorcerer.
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It's a small detail, but you can even see that Fionil has her hood up. Probably that's tied to the extra info on her from the Adventurer's Bible - she's a Canary spy.
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Wait. Hold on.
Fionil is a spy. If that news comes out, she risks both her ties to Doni and possible arrest or punishment from the elves. She has been hiding out and trying to stay under the radar. But despite this, when Doni comes forward to vouch for Laios, so does she.
So yeah. THAT is the context of these panels:
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That's why she's crying here. That's why its notable that she lowers her hood.
Fionil puts her life at risk by coming forward and standing by Doni. And it's these two that spur everyone else into action. Doni and Fionil save Laios, and Laios saves Marcille, and then they and the party go on to save the entire world.
I'm proud of her...
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circuitcircus Ā· 7 months ago
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in defense of kabumisuā€¦ā€¦..
addressing things I see people say about why kabru being shipped w mithrun is ā€˜badā€™ or why their canon relationship ā€˜doesnā€™t mean anythingā€™ while also clearing up misconceptions of the characters some fans have
listen it keeps popping up and I just gotta do this or my brain will melt (if you donā€™t see it around then god I wish that were me) thereā€™s an age gap!- erm thereā€™s also an age gap in farcille (ily), the most popular ship in the series...also chilchuck looks like a kid but a lot of fans recognize him as a dilf because of his relative age, so there should be no age gap discourse among adult characters because it feels so conditional tbh
kabru taking care of mithrun is racist!- marcille likes to take care of others as well. is that sexist, or just an aspect of her character?
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kabru isnā€™t treated like a servant, waiting on mithrun hand and footā€¦I mean he gives mithrun a foot massage but no one told him to do all that lmfao
he's also not the only one to care for mithrun. pattadol is shown to worry for him and milsril was the one to start taking care mithrun in the first place after heā€¦...yā€™know. speaking of which-
they probably met when kabru was a kid!- neither of them showed signs of recognizing each other the entire time mithrun was introduced nor when they were together. and im pretty sure KABRU of all people would show some kind of recognition if they'd met before. it's kabru!!! the people person!!! mr. "i-noted-down-50+-characters-in-this-dude's-backstory-for-fun-and-actually-enjoy-social-gatherings"
you would think some kind of memory would come back to him especially after hearing mithrunā€™s backstory if milsril had even told kabru about him as a kid. but nope. itā€™s just fan speculation unless there's a side comic suggesting otherwise that i haven't seen
mithrun doesn't care about kabru, his shapeshift double looked like shit!- it's obviously because of mithrun's (then) lack of desires that it looked like that, but they really grow on each other
i think it's safe to assume it'd look more like kabru after they spent so much time together (also laios can barely even remember kabru's name..also saw his face multiple times and didnā€™t recognize him when they talked for the first time)
mithrun is racist!- heā€™s actually the least likely character to be racist since he lost his desires and that includes a desire for superiority over others. he even calls his past self out on that part of himself. the other elves in that side comic were being just as racist to shorter lived races but just didnā€™t use ā€˜outdated slursā€™
(unfortunately literally every main character in dunmeshi is at least a lil prejudiced, but I believe itā€™s worldbuilding and a sign of the times rather than a reason ryoko kui is giving to hate each character)
taking care of others is a pain in the ass!- saying this as a reason kabru and mithrun shouldn't be together is basically saying disabled people shouldn't be allowed to have romantic relationships because they're a "burden"...if someone is actually willing to put in the work, then let them be.
that's not even all of their relationship, mithrun is the fighter of their duo and kabru would've been killed by the shapeshifter or something if he'd fallen down the hole on his own since he sucks at fighting monsters. mithrun helps collect ingredients for cooking every time, too (barometz fruits and griffin egg). he pulls his weight and then some!! i feel like people forget that part of mithrun a lot somehow.
+senshi literally cooks for everyone all time. it's kind of an important aspect of the narrative.
+also, while it is a popular fan thing I see around that kabru handfeeds mithrun, he literally never does lol this is mithrun using his own hands to eat:
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also here we have him washing his own body
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just saying because people like to treat mithrun like a baby even though the narrative respects him as a capable adult who also has special needs because of an accident. heā€™s captain for a reason
kabru hates taking care of mithrun!- not exactly, he was initially surprised and put off but got used to it quickly. iā€™m sure heā€™s grateful for all the times mithrun saved him from a monster and teleported them out of danger as well
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he even starts doing ā€œunnecessaryā€ things for mithrunā€™s comfort and safety like when mithrun pushes himself too hard fighting, even after his mission to take care of him was complete when the canaries came back
here is even kabru resting while mithrun keeps watch (mithrun let him sleep for 5 hours before waking him up from the nightmare earlier, too):
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there's nothing more to their relationship!- they actually have had a very tight and consistent dynamic since they met and they incite the most change within each other by the end. kabru is the one who inspires mithrun to create new desires so he doesn't waste away, and mithrun is the first person we see kabru being genuine with and it leads him to be more honest with others by the end instead of tiptoeing around everyone all the time (that mask was also the reason some ppl initially disliked kabruā€¦)
kabruā€™s relationship with mithrun is honestly so important for his character and vice versa, but itā€™s often disregarded because of one over exaggerated aspect of it (an aspect that isnā€™t even the first way they interact with each other) or because people want to just straight up ignore it for some reason šŸ„²šŸ„²
kui dedicates many panels to them that don't particularly serve the narrative as a whole in order to demonstrate this and i think that's pretty significant
you're taking this too seriously!- as if i'm the first person in the world to be crazy about a ship or the characters šŸ˜­ i love analyzing text and it's upsetting to see them mischaracterized when kui lays out the characters so clearly and deliberately
also they end up touching each other like all the time and have the kind of canon validation most ppl can only dream of lol i feel so insane look at this:
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and this is just when they're first getting to know each other cuz there's a fuckload more
kinda hard to explain how i don't actually need them to get married or whatever but i'd die on this hill for them and i enjoy their dynamic immensely
haha you thought you were reading ship discourse but it was actually a character analysis šŸ¤ŖšŸ¤ŖšŸ¤Ŗ
also donā€™t somehow take this to mean I think anyone has to ship them, I just need everyone to understand these accusations kind of donā€™t make sense especially when they can also apply to other pairs or characters
bonus kabru just looking at mithrun:
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edoro Ā· 7 months ago
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Dunmeshi spoilers, talking about Thistle and Delgal
the more i think about it, the less i feel like the text of Dunmeshi really does support the interpretation that Delgal didn't love Thistle
like, yes, he absolutely did use Thistle, and displayed a clear sense of entitlement towards him - the baseline expectation that if he had a problem, Thistle could and would solve it, and then the idea that once he'd set Thistle to solve a problem he could just... turn that solution off when he felt like it ("we've been here a while now, isn't it time we left the dungeon?" <-words of a man who has not truly grasped what he asked for, what Thistle did to fulfill it, or what any of the repercussions of this are)
there's also an interesting thread of carelessness when it comes to his physical interactions with Thistle during high-emotion moments, like when he grabs onto Thistle by Eodio's sickbed or when he thumps Thistle on the back after Thistle summons monsters to kill their enemies and then brings that kid's dead dad back to life
it feels like he's a large dog who doesn't realize how big he is, or perhaps doesn't realize how small and delicate Thistle is, and perhaps at times is very aware of it and uses his size to intimidate/express his frustration
all of that aside, though, i think it's very clear that prior to Thistle becoming dungeon lord and tbh for a decent chunk of time at the beginning of his tenure as dungeon lord, Delgal had a very emotionally intimate relationship with him
i don't think you can sort them neatly into the categories of older vs younger sibling. they've both been both at different times, depending on how you measure it. Thistle is certainly older chronologically, and there was a chunk of Delgal's life - a very formative chunk, too - where Thistle was older, smarter, and stronger, where Thistle looked out for him and protected him and taught him things.
and then there were a few years where they were at the same developmental level... and then Delgal outgrew Thistle. he got bigger and older physically and he matured mentally past the point where Thistle was. not only that, but he became king, and while Thistle may have been raised alongside him like a brother, that doesn't make Thistle a prince - he was first and foremost a servant (and property) of the crown, even if his position meant he enjoyed a close relationship with the king, queen, and prince.
but that doesn't make Thistle necessarily the little brother - he is now, but it seems to me that there's still a part of him and Delgal that sees him as someone with the power to comfort and protect and teach, rather than someone who needs to be comforted and protected and taught
take the scene where Delgal says he's afraid of dying after his father was killed: that's an extremely tender, intimate, emotional scene. Delgal is crying while Thistle strokes his hair and promises to protect him. Delgal, the king, is being vulnerable in a way he absolutely cannot with most people, and Thistle sees his vulnerability and offers not only comfort but the promise of safety - don't worry, i'll make it better, i'll chase away the monsters under your bed, i won't let anything bad happen to you, i won't let anyone hurt you.
Delgal sees him as someone to seek that comfort from and Thistle sees himself as being in a position to give that comfort. he yearns for Delgal's attention and approval but also sees himself as Delgal's protector.
and then we have scenes like the one where Thistle resurrected that kid's dad, where he sees everyone staring at him in the aftermath of this bloody route and a bit of casual necromancy and realizes they're unsure, even scared of him, and it's Delgal who steps in and changes the mood by thumping Thistle on the back and praising him; Delgal who manages the crowd and keeps Thistle safe, setting the expectation for how everyone should react, lending his social cachet to Thistle in this moment to protect him from backlash
they go back and forth like this with each other, and i think it's one of the most interesting things about their relationship. no one else in Delgal's family has the same kind of relationship with Thistle. no one else knows him as well or loves him like Delgal does. no one else is close with him like that.
ultimately, i don't think you can look at the way he sought comfort from Thistle after his father's death and think that there isn't love and emotional intimacy there. the real tragedy is that Delgal always loved Thistle, but he never understood Thistle, and his inability to do so combined with his general passivity and avoidance played a big part in things getting as fucked up as they did.
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maluspumilaa Ā· 10 days ago
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dunmeshi au be upon you once more, this time in the form of a forever unfinished comic i made on whiteboard
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pov i rewatched the laudna resurrection scene again.
i had thoughts about the in-au resurrection and i will put them below + a transcript of my handwriting
au tag
handwriting on comic:
"you know you saved my life, right?
...if we hadn't met when we did, i don't know how long i would've lasted.
these last few years have been everything.
...we defeated the thing that killed you.
we tried our best to find what bones we could from its carcass."
I WROTE A CONTINUATION FOR THIS BUT DIDNT GET TO DRAW STUFF FOR IT so here you go:
"we couldn't find all of them though. i think it was using you like some sorta bonemeal...
either way, we did the best we could.
i hope you don't mind the branches too much. if you come back, i don't know how you're going to feel.
but i want you to know, whatever... whatever happens, i'll be there for you. just know that i love you, and i'm here."
OKAY SO. OH BOYYY. as youve most likely figured out, this resurrection speech is totally torn from the c3 ritual with a little bit of treant + laudna skeleton flavor added to it and i did talk about why i thought that would be fun in a previous post
i dont remember what i said exactly but it was about how i thought combining the resurrection rituals in dunmeshi and cr/dnd would be fun, in that the soul would have to be called forth by the resurrector or someone nearby before being brought back
and with that the brainworms took root in me and i started thinking about what imogen would say before performing the ancient magic and this was born! i would love to go back and work on this comic more tbh
you probably also noticed this but ashtons there!! i just think hes neat ā™” i think hes a tallman... maybe fearne is also in the party (she would be an elf. thinking up a design as i type this actually) since thatd let her be friends with orym!!
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shoezuki Ā· 5 months ago
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It me ya boy alcoholic beverage, back again to scream about dungeon meshi XD
Wtf wtf wtf wtf. So much is happenin right now and I simply should not be stayin up so late (early?) to binge it T-T
Firstly Namari is freaking awesome. Love em. Strong dwarf? who knows her way around ore and love to see that she still loves her old party. Goin to check for Falin jus in case. Also love how she 1000% would kill Senshi for turnin mithril into a blade lmfao
Whatever is goin on with the gnomes and the magician blueprint stuff is sketchy as hell n I kinda trust the elves with that info more than them.
Tho tbh, can Marcille have it instead. If I met a dark magic user that was scared of bugs and genuinely loved her party, I wouldn't think twice about trustin em with my life. You can probably destroy the entire world given enough study time but you kickin it with the lads and tryna make a safe dungeon? Based.
Iconic bath scene. Love the sapphics havin a Momentā„¢ļø. It's what they deserve. Peace and a heartfelt talk before everything comes crashin down around em.
The magician makes me angry!! I mean, they defo hold true to their name. Fully out of their mind. Would happily clock em for exactly 3 pennies. Tho I am hella interested in how they went from lil jester to obsessed with the prince n knowin all the dark arts. I wonder if they tried to resurrect princey n it all spiraled from there. Can't wait to see all that unfold in later episodes.
Also Chilchuck my beloved. Solidified as my fave. Jus barely tho, Laios was gettin pretty close. He acts aloof and disappointed but dude would be completely besides himself if any of em died. Feel like he'll try n scanper off once on the surface but not be able to bring himself to abandon them.
Marcille n the dark arts was a complete surprise like wtf. That's insane. But also hell yes, let the pretty elf lady go absolutely nutso and summon demons or something. She deserves it.
I know what Falin turns into cuz of That One Gif lmfao hut also hyped to see that all turn out.
Ever so slightly disappointed that Laios didn't lose his leg n have to get a cool magic one or something. N am desperate for him to have the sword looked at. Wonder if there's more to the lil critter or if it can help him further. Someone teach this man speak with animals, he needs to connect with the lil guy.
Senshi!!! Grand lad, not much more to say bout him so far but love that he's connected with everyone. N is intent on bein honest about everything he feels.
Love how the orcs went from standoffish to genuine allies. Love the sister's (dammit, I forget her name) attitude to everything. She read Chil like a book and recognises strength regardless of race. Also her fit is very cool lmfao.
Swordsman. Waitin for him to show up because wtf, he wanted to marry Falin?!
I went into this expecting a funny, chill anime. I blame you entirely smh. You made it seem so cool and lighthearted and now I sit at 6am with tears in my eyes because wtf the look on Laios' face when he agrees to go back to the surface. Not been so invested in an anime for a while!!! I stopped after ep 13 cuz my heart can't take much more.
I may have a brain cell when I awaken and come crawling back to cry more about the show as a whole or jus character things. Maybe screech about creatures tbh. I was genuinely distraught when the dragon ham rolled into the blood. Like wtf, I wanna see more dragon meals. I'm bein robbed of cooking content!!!!
~šŸ„ƒ
fuck sorry this has been in drafts for so long but. fuck yes dude i grin ear to ear readin what ur feelin a dunmeshi vsmsdvsudy. its so so so so good. feel free to ramble to me bout it all u want it makes me giddy
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p1xel-1mp Ā· 3 months ago
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OMG I FORGOR I HAD THIS IN THE DEPTHS OF MY DRAFTS IM SORRY AHSKJSBEKSKDKDKFFJ šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­
Name/s -> Not giving my real name so you can use p1xel_1mp or Ezra
Pronouns -> Any/all, Iā€™ve realised I use more feminine or gender neutral ones more often (she, they, it, ect) but genuinely anything goes
Star Sign -> ā™’ļø Aquarius ā™’ļø
Siblings -> Little shit sister, i asked her ā€œif youā€™re being introduced to someone and had to give one fun fact abt yourself, what would it beā€ her immediate response was ā€œI can summon satan.ā€ so do with that information as you will.
Pets -> Dog, Samba šŸ’™ (he is my son and i would die and kill for him)
Fandoms -> tbh i lost count T-T off the top of my head thereā€™s:
ā€¢ dc / marvel (more dc tho, especially batfam)
ā€¢ one piece
ā€¢ dunmeshi
ā€¢ cotl
ā€¢ spyxfamily
ā€¢ dimension 20
ā€¢ ghibli
ā€¢ the other trillion things iā€™m into and havenā€™t mentioned
Favourite songs -> anything by days n daze, chappelle roan, system of a down, gorillaz, khary, ect
Hobbies -> Artā€™s the main one, listening to music (ofc), crafts, reading, makeup, the beach, does obsessing over my hyperfixations count?
Favourite holiday -> idk
Partners -> Nope :)
ā€‹sorry it took so long Socks i genuinely forgor
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hobbies: reading, writing, listening to music, filming and editing, etc.
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riacte Ā· 8 months ago
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ok more thoughts on laios + marcille (manga spoilers)
i just really enjoy how they get screentime in proportion to their thematic relevance, like it is obvious and reasonable why laios is the protagonist, and it is obvious and reasonable why marcille comes right after him. and i think it is so great that they are not canonically paired up in an obviously romantic way but there is enough chemistry to see that yes, they are a strong pair who are both similar and different, they both actively push the plot forward and their dynamic develops appropriately. i've always liked character driven plots and i think dunmeshi does an absolute fantastic job of sculpting its Two Big Characters (with a well developed overall cast). they are both devoted to rescuing falin, but they originally approached the dungeon with different desires.
at first, their main dynamic seems to be "lover of eating monsters vs fussy picky person who hates eating monsters". but even early on, you can see that laios is the leader and he trusts marcille and wants her to save her mana for lower floors, and while marcille complains about the food, she eats it every time. and later they start learning about each other's fears/motivations, he saves her from her nightmare, she teaches him magic, when she freaks out she instinctively looks at him for comfort, in laios' vision of being king marcille is by his side as his advisor and he trusts her a lot, etc etc. that bit about the laios version of shapeshifter marcille being how solemn marcille looked when she was resurrecting falin... and later on him saying he wanted to see her smile... ugh they care for each other so much.
i know fans went crazy for the succubus chapter but what really did it for me was the chapters when they were hunting rabbits outside sissel's house. laios giving the party's mage his neck protector thingy because she is the only one who can resurrect. the entire party being wiped out almost immediately. marcille reanimating the corpses (god she's used ancient magic to save like everyone in her party now) and making them follow her moves. marcille doing all of this on her own while controlling her friends' dead bodies. this fucks me up SO BAD because when falin died, at least she had everyone else. when she resurrected falin, she had laios' permission. BUT NOW SHE'S ALONE and she doesn't even have the winged dragon beside her?? not a familiar?? not even kensuke. the chapter made it funny but i'm sure it was horrifying and stressful for her. and even worse they were hunting meat to make food for chimera falin (and then kill/subdue falin). like. all the trauma and layers.
marcille sobbing about how laios left her the neck guard and how he assumed she would have to save everyone because only she knows how... even if everyone dies, marcille will "magically save the day" (because he trusts her!! maybe a little too much!!!!)... how marcille was the one who resurrected falin and that became the catalyst for later events... marcille being an half elf who grew up at uneven speeds with a great fear of outliving all her friends AND NOW SHE IS SURROUNDED BY HER FRIENDS' DEAD BODIES WHILE TRYING TO SAVE HER OTHER FRIEND/LOVER. marcille willing to do illegal magic to save her friends. no wonder the lion got to her in such a vulnerable state. no wonder she cried on laios' chest. (also makes it worse that it would feel like everyone was ganging up on her when she became the dungeon lord. marcille vs the world ;-;)
tbh i was quite surprised marcille became lord of the dungeon first, and that quote when laios said "if she didn't become lord, i would've" stuck with me because that is so true. marcille is focused on the lifespan of races and magic but she doesn't know how to organise monsters in a dungeon, and monsters are laios' interest but he doesn't have the knowledge/experience when it comes to different species. like they would be excellent co-dungeon lords.
ok anyways. laios running up to snap lord!marcille out of it. laios and co having always depended on her to do the saving, even with saving falin, but now it's laios' turn to save the day. marcille pointing her staff at laios but refusing to hurt him because ofc she doesn't want to and she wants to stay with her friends her whole life... and the laios telling her they wouldn't have this adventure if falin didn't get eaten (relating to marcille's mindset at the end when she's accepted that falin might not come back and that's the cycle of life and death?)... i love laios comforting marcille during her periods of vulnerability aaaaa
also in the end when he bailed her out of elf jail lmao šŸ‘ he really was like "do not fear i have a permit that says i can do whatever i want".
from their actions you can tell they are quite familiar with each other and laios is pretty okay with her physical shows of affection (ruffling his hair, hugging him etc). also now that i think about it, his succubus was him wanting to be truly accepted by marcille, a person he trusts and cares about šŸ„ŗ
anyways. totally did not expect to become attached to their dynamic even tho it should be obvious in hindsight as two major characters lol. they have a lot of fun interactions in canon and ughhhh they are opposite yet similar. laios' monster heaven is marcille's hell. laios thinks marcille's cute little familiars and flowery monsters are silly. and every single person thinking he's a freak for that ultimate monster form. saving each other and being united in their will to save falin. "if it wasn't her, it would be me" when it came to dungeon lording.
one last point: i think my interest in them had been slowly building but then came that bit when she instinctively hugged laios when she was frightened by the elf police, i looked at that panel, and was like "oh damn we really in it now"
so hey guys i finished dungeon meshi yesterday and i'm still thinking about it
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