#and i believe his inability to address & resolve the dichotomy between the two is responsible for his downfall
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prahacat · 1 year ago
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#fml#i can't think about him too much lest i go insane#him and his big stupid castle and no-one to share it with#imagine your social life reduced to nothing but horrid powerful people‚ your psychpathic boss‚ your old family who now hates you and your -#- various apprentices that you occasionally fling lightning at but end up caring for anyway#i think that just does things to your brain.#you build up layers upon layers of awfulness with all sorts of fossils inside them#and in the process you get farther and farther away from your core while also putting more and more pressure on it until it boils#which is why i really like the “he'd rather burn them down than allow them to continue to fester“ part#it's so on point#at his core he's a teacher and someone who cares so much but his circumstances compress those traits into something kinda twisted#and boy you're gonna need a BIG excavator to take some of that pressure off#anyway sorry for the ramble and the sediment metaphor but. ughh this guy#he really gets my little brain gears grinding#meta#count dooku#rael averross#qui-gon#UGHHH (prev tags by @rochenn)
May I ask about your Star Wars fanfics? I wanted you to know I really enjoy them to read on my off time!
May we know your opinions/ headcannons on Dooku and Qui gon's relationship?
How was there dynamic during there early years?
Do you think deep down in when dooku is alone in Sereno, asleep he dreams of seeing his old padawan one last time?
This lyric comes to mind I added on to it.
"Alone and forgotten, i never thought he'd look at me again, but he smiled at me, and I held him.. just like I used to do. Like I used to when he was scarred as a child. Or maybe he was holding me?
Holding me to the light as he used to hold me and look at me, those eyes so full of hope and admiration"
You may absolutely ask me about my Star Wars fics! Thank you for reading my stories! (I swear one day I'm going to finish off those WIPs, aaaaaaaaaa).
Caveat that I'm not as active in the fandom these days (on a bit of Star Wars sabbatical), but I do feel (and I'm someone who melds Master & Apprentice, Jedi Lost, and Dark Rendezvous into canon as I see fit) that in contrast to Dooku's relationship with Rael (which was surprisingly casual, especially as Rael aged. This, if I may be allowed a small tangent, is probably a combination of Rael's aggressive form of charm and Dooku's inexperience and youth)
...but anyway, in comparison to Dooku and Rael, there's this...distance, on the surface, that Dooku keeps from Qui-gon. Their relationship, at least the trappings of it, is more formal, their roles more defined. (This being said, anytime Rael pops by and the three of them are together, those neatly constructed walls start to crumble). This doesn't mean Dooku doesn't care about Qui-gon. He cares, deeply. But as we see in Tales of the Jedi, Qui-gon's apprenticeship years mark the true beginnings of Dooku's disillusionment with the Jedi Order and his slow fall to the Dark Side. And I think part of this detachment from Qui-gon (even as he shows a ferocious protectiveness over him) is, in part, Dooku trying to shield Qui-gon from his more insidious desires and actions. (This backfires, on more than one occasion, when Dooku chokes the crap/lightening attacks/otherwise manhandles out of various enemies who were either threatening his Padawan or were obviously part of the bloating corruption that was metastasizing across the entire Republic).
And to get back to their relationship, we have Dooku being a little more standoff-ish. A little older, a bit more bitter, in general. And young Qui-gon is less outwardly brash than Dooku (at least when he was younger) and Qui-gon is definitely intimidated his new Master. (Although he respects him as a teacher and while Dooku is an exacting, demanding instructor he is also always fair. Whatever his personal troubles are, Dooku is never anything less than a damn fine teacher).
So yes, Dooku cares. Qui-gon's death had no small part in his eventual choice to join the Sith and I have no doubts whatsoever that he dreams both of Qui-gon and Rael regularly as he lies alone in that gigantic, empty bed on Serenno. (I think Dooku, as much as he was trying to manipulate Obi-wan in AotC by bringing up Qui-gon's name, was also being completely honest with Obi-wan in that moment. Actually, he was wholly honest with Obi-wan that entire scene and got shot down due to - at least as Dooku would have seen it - Jedi indoctrination).
And it's this caring that helps to bury Dooku in the end. Caring about his Padawans. Caring about the Republic. About Serenno. About the Jedi. For a man that is so stoic and proper, he is passionate and invested in the future of all the different organizations and governments and societies he's tasked with defending (to the point he'd rather burn them down than allow them to continue to fester). But more than any of that - the Jedi, the Republic, Serenno - Dooku is a teacher. A teacher who is instructing in an intense, one-on-one relationship that puts him in the position of half-mentor/half-parent. We see it when he and Rael embrace after meeting again years later; we see it when Dooku asks an adult Qui-gon for information about this Sith, to protect Qui-gon; we see it when Dooku is forced to turn on Ventress; we see it when he tries to recruit Obi-wan again and again (and, for the record, does not kill him in the bridge scene in RotS when he easily could have crushed Obi-wan with that platform).
This is all to say Dooku cares. And that, to some degree, was exactly the problem.
#BRUUUH the fossil/sediment metaphor NO NEED TO GO SO HARD I'M DYING OVER HERE#this. this is how i see him. all of it. down to a t#he has this image of himself. stoic. rational. detached.#(probably originally influenced by his idea of a perfect jedi. you can see in jedi:lost how he tries to live up to it as a boy/teen)#but already the cracks are showing. bc that's not him#there's a lot of insecurity & fear & carefully suppressed emotion boiling beneath his facade#he's never learned how to open up abt it and deal with it in a healthy way#bc he's inherently distrustful of emotional connections & vulnerability. obsessed with themes of trust & betrayal#(just re-read the lorian nod book i know it's not canon but BOY DOOKU GET A GRIP)#so he buries his fears. tries to control them. becomes very good at it throughout the years up to the point where he's even fooling himself#in his mind he is alone#no really loneliness is his theme song#the only way he knows how to connect with others is within the safe and regulated boundaries of a teacher-student relationship#charming rael still knew ways to get around that. but dooku's distance to his students also became more and more pronounced over the years#but still ... ever notice how LOVES to praise his apprentices? loves to gush abt their proficiency?#look at how proud he is of qui-gon in totj. how he talks abt ventress#IT EVEN EXTENDS TO OBI-WAN#ofc part of this just his pride as a teacher talking. but openly admiring someone's skill is also kinda his love language#he tries that all the time with obi-wan. tries praising him and/or qui-gon in an attempt to connect#that's why i think his words to obi-wan in aotc were genuine when he talked abt qui-gon (the best manipulation has an element of truth)#he has a weird way of caring. of showing his care. but yes. he still cares#but he's also totally blindsided by his own narrative of being this lonely detached leader/teacher figure#and i believe his inability to address & resolve the dichotomy between the two is responsible for his downfall#AM I EVEN MAKING SENSE?#SORRY BUT HE'S JUST SO STUPID AND FASCINATING#AND I'M SO GIDDY READING ALL THIS DOOKU LOVE#POETRY EVEN#star wars meta#just thoughts#someone help me
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