#and i am of a similar mindset actually lol like i look back at bat’s debut pics from the 4th live and think ‘DAMN he looks intense’ lmao

[akkivee]

FACTS HAYAMA-SAN!!!!!!!! SO TRUE YOU ARE SO RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!

[millhavenn]

Reddit repost 2—Stranger Things subreddit.

There was a post about them yesterday, but it got locked because people decided to make it about a ship war rather than an appreciation of how great their friendship is.

Really looking forward to seeing them actually work together in season 5, because both should have pretty major roles hopefully. Will understands Vecna like no one else does, and I think that’s going to be key to beating him. And with both Mike’s girlfriend and best friend being important to the fight, there’s no way that Mike can’t be involved.

Hoping we can get a scene with Will being honest with Mike about how he feels, because his character deserves it. There’s a zero percent chance that Mike would be anything other than accepting of him, and Noah Schnapp would no doubt crush the scene, like he did with the van scene in season 4.

The van scene was one of my top 3 favourite scenes this season, because whilst heartbreaking, it perfectly displayed how strong their friendship is. The way Will was able to know how Mike was hurting, put his own feelings aside to recognise how important El was to Mike, and capture how important Mike was to both El and himself was beautiful. He knew how much it hurt him to see Mike in love with El, but he helped his best friend anyway. Unrequited love is hard, but Will powers through it.

Edit: Ok I didn’t plan on writing this much, it kinda just happened.

Yeah I was in that posts comment section. It is part of the reason why I made this. I wanted to see what exactly caused people to react in such a negative way.

I still don’t know what caused it. But this post is doing incredibly well, and I am glad. It is a very small step to bringing back some sort of calm to this community! Lol

I agree with everything you said. I am hoping and praying that a coming out scene is written into the script for season 5. After everything he has gone through, Will deserves the relief, comfort, and safety that comes with sharing your true identity to the people that will love you unconditionally.

A Mike + Will duo/partnership in season 5 would be AMAZING. I need to see them fucking up a bunch of demo(gorgon/bat/dog)s side-by-side. The two of them saving the world together (or helping to) would be a beautiful way to bring their storylines to a close—they both get their revenge on those that had caused them, and the people they love, pain.

It does not matter if it is platonic or romantic—the final blow should be theirs and I will die on this hill !!

I think the negative reactions come as a result of any perceived implication that their relationship is romantic; as whilst majority of fans are relatively positive towards their friendship, the common consensus around here is that it’s just that, a friendship. And whilst I personally agree with that judgement, the constant desire to turn any mention of their friendship into a ship war is tiring.

Seeing Mike get his hands dirty to defend El and Will from some monsters would be a sight to behold, and it’d be cool to see Mike confront Vecna similar to when he tried to take on Billy in the sauna in season 3.

In regards to the “final blow”, I’m about 99% sure this will still technically go to Eleven. But I don’t think it’ll be as simple as El holding out her hand and screaming whilst everyone cheers her on. There’ll be multiple layers to the fight, which is where the rest of the kids, and the adults will come into it.

That is really sad to me, but yoy are right. Hopefully that mob (sort of) mindset changes. I feel that I would be able to have many lovely discussions (such as this one) with users here if implications of romance were not taken so personal.

And the above applies to both sides.

For anybody wondering, my post is not alluding to a specific dynamic in regards to Mike and Will. Users have been lovely thus far of sharing their own interpretation of their dynamic in a mature, and quite beautiful, way. It makes me happy, and I hope it stays this way, even if for a little longer.

Is that wishful thinking?

Yes!! I say Mike Wheeler should be given a chainsaw in season 5. Nancy/Will teaching him how to shoot a gun would be great, as well. There is a lot of potential in season 5, if they choose to go the apocalyptic route, really.

Oh yeah, definitely. I am sure a bunch of powerless teenagers would not stand a chance against powerful entities, such as Vecna and the Mind Flayer, on their own.

That was a joke on my part, but it would be funny if Will just, like, walks up while Vecna is at his weakest, and hits him on the head with a random chair. Imagine going through all of that evil planning, nearly winning in your attempt to control the world, only to die by a random gay kid. I would cry

You definitely do see a similar mindset with other aspects of show. Whenever there’s a post celebrating Mike and El’s love for each other, you’ll usually find someone going out of their way to tell everyone how “fake” or “toxic” they are together. Like I get that Reddit is a platform for sharing opinions, but sometimes I wonder would it not be easier to just downvote and keep scrolling, rather than offering a factually incorrect assessment? Same thing here for when people suggest Mike has been a bad friend to Will.

Maybe just a healthy dose of optimism.

Honestly as long as we get a decent scene with Will standing up to Vecna, I’ll be happy. The poor kid has spent the past two seasons in the back seat.

TLDR: I agree with you big time, and that should be a mindset everybody has!

It most definitely would be.

I feel that there are people who do want to have proper discussions with others of differing opinions, hence why they do not downvote and move on, but it has become clear that it is not something which is possible in the subreddit. Regardless of your preference towards Mikes relationship with Eleven, or Mikes relationship with Will, you are going to receive an immature response. It is best to ignore.

There is a minority in this situation that does deserve more support than what they are currently being given, however, this does not make them innocent—I would know. I have started and partook in many arguments myself, and now that I look back on them, it was stupid of me to replicate the way I was mistreated onto other people.

Everybody in this subreddit needs to learn how to have a proper discussion before ever considering confronting another individual about their opinion. No one is ever right, and if that cannot be accepted, it takes a simple downvote and scroll to continue with the day.

Mileven, Byler, it is not as big of a deal as people here make it out to be—enjoy your ships in peace, and let others enjoy their ships in peace, too!

[vloggerliam]

1) popular opinion: ztans are the most annoying people in this entire world(I was looking at some of ztans' blogs and I had to stop myself from rolling my eyes at least 4 times) like they always blow everything out of proportion when its not necessary and I feel like they use zayn's anxiety (and the reasons why he left the band) as some sort of excuse to be assholes towards other people who haven't gone through what zayn went through, like every other person who hasn't experienced THAT is

2) an ungrateful bastard who doesn't deserve to be lovedHeya, I’ll try to keep this short since I have a habit of exceeding the word limit ajsdhakjda but I know you sent this while I was answering the previous ask. I have to say this, Zayn gets a lot of shit and a major reason of that has deep rooted racist and islamophobic origins. I will never belittle Zayn’s constant struggle with being a proud Brown Muslim boy who’s doing what he wants to do. Being a POC myself, I actually can relate with Zayn. Having said that, I think people need to realise that even as they are conscious of Zayn’s struggles, they’re constantly ignoring the others’? The other 4 have it easy by virtue of being White, but Liam of all of them has had struggles of his own?Liam has spoken about his body image issues, he’s spoken about alcoholism, he’s spoken about his eating disorder, he’s been open about being bullied, he’s constantly receives hypercriticism for even things that he’s not even done wrong, by these very empathetic and sympathetic ztans? Lol, gimme a break. If they think they can absolve themselves of all the shit they throw on Liam by being concerned about Zayn, then they’ve got a fucked up mindset, but like, we already knew that, hadn’t we?Yes, Liam shouldn’t have mentioned Zayn’s leaving -- which btw contradicts what he said back in 2015, when Zayn has left just a months before that interview, and he said that he understood and all was good and they were in touch, so like, fuck off with y’alls selective memory. But let’s not sit and pretend that Zayn’s not had a problematic promo run of his own. I say this often but ztans are harries 2.0. It’s actually interesting to observe because both Harry and Zayn have had an eerily similar narrative, believe it or not. The both of them are exaggerated grown up versions of who they were back in 1D, Harry is still a womaniser and Zayn still likes blondes and sex. Zayn and Harry have taken digs at 1D’s music, considering Liam and Louis were heavily involved with the songwriting and Liam despite the genre not even his favourite, has given his 100% to the band, vocally, musically, pretty neat of them throwing their ex/current bandmates/friends under the bus but nobody bats an eye over this. Both were catapulted with sure shot success because one was the Golden Child while the other boasted of sensationalism, the one who broke away first. I am not taking away from their talent, yes the both of them made good albums, but come on, their star power has always been higher. Not to mention how these two are the only ones with Major American PR relationships. That helps. As unfair as it is, Zayn got into the map of many people who would have dismissed him because of his PR relationship while Harry and Taylor would always be a hot topic, 10 years from now even. Of course, there’s also Kendall and all the other females here and there. And all these girlfriends are besties and under UMG, lol. Zayn and Harry both have a more fashion-esque edge also, career wise, so there’s another parallel. Harry’s done a feature film, Zayn’s spoken about maybe dabbling into movies plus he has that cameo appearance, yeah? There’s a hell lot of parallels and it makes sense their fans are equally obnoxious.Anyway, ztans and harries have the most inflated egos for obvious reasons, so they do develop a complex and that shows. Like, I say call people’s hypocrisy out for the constant Zayn hate but how do you pretend to be always in the right when you’re doing the same to somebody else? Zayn and Harry both deserve better, imo.