#and helen and cassandra hello???

[jockbots]

the trojan war refs in knives out 2 are killing me its so good the more i think abt it the more im like I FUCKING LV THIS MOVIE

also shout out to the writers for making blanc achilles i.e the one that ended the war, the best fighter/ detective, litteraly saying etc. my achilles heel. AND then making him gay by having his bf open the door for him. HE EVEN MOPES IN THE BATH LIKE ACHILLES IN HIS BURRITO BLANKET

the writers legit flipped off classical snobs that deny or ignore that Patroclus was his lover AND then burned the mona lisa just in case it didnt hit home that its all bs

[did-someone-say-aliens]

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Aggretsuko: Shikabane, Fenneko

Ace Attorney: Any

Avatar: Toph, Mai

Amphibia: Marcy, Dr. Jan

Adventure Time: Fern, Magic Betty

BSD: Dazai, Ranpo, Edgar, Fyodor, Nikolai, Kyōka

Blue's Clues: Green, Rainbow, Blue, Magenta

Battle Kitty: Kitty, Orc, Aeon, Iago

Cookie Run: Pure Vanilla, White Lily/Dark Enchantress, Mystic Flour, Elder Faerie, Espresso, Affogato

Dsaf: Dee

Danganronpa: Kyoko, Celestia, Sayaka, Mikan, Chiaki, Nagito, Ibuki, Shuichi, Kokichi, Rantaro, Angie, Tsumugi

Undertale/Deltarune/UT AUs: Dream/Shattered, Ink, Fatal Error, Geno, Blueberror

DDLC: Yuri, Sayori

Dogman: Any

Dandy's World: Astro, Razzle & Dazzle, Twisted Glisten

Death Note: L, Near, Misa, Teru (sometimes???)

Dialtown: Phonegingi, Karen

DHMIS: Yellow Guy, Sketchbook, Lesley

ENA: Ena, Merci, Shepherd

FNAF: Charlie/Puppet, Sundrop, Moondrop, Eclipse, Withered Bonnie, Lefty, Lolbit

FPE: Any

FNF: Nene

Ghost and Pals: Christopher, Arc, Cakey, Creative Piko, Kennith, Epta, Evelyn J.

Hello Puppets: Riley

INMIMB: Embry

Invader Zim: GIR, Gaz, Zim

Lalaloopsy: Rosy Bumps N Bruises, Bea Spells A Lot, Spot Splatter Splash, Crumbs Sugar Cookie, Pillow Featherbed, Charlotte Charades, Dot Starlight, Furry Grrs A Lot, Haley Galaxy

MLP: Fluttershy, Twilight Sparkle, Princess Luna, Sci-Twi, Gloriosa Daisy

Max & Ruby: Max

MHA: Tsuyu Asui, Mei Hatsume, Tamaki Amajiki, Kinoko Komori, Anan Kurose (Thirteen), Reiko Yanagi, Mawata Fuwa

Monster High: Frankie, Twyla, Draculaura, Rebecca

MCSM: Olivia, Jesse, Xara

Night in the Woods: Mae

Omori: Sunny, Basil

Over the Garden Wall: Any

Octonauts: Peso, Tweak

Ouran High School Host Club: Haruhi

Project Sekai: Nene Kusanagi, Mafuyu Asahina, Rui Kamishiro, Ena Shinonome, Emu Otori

Pressure: Any

PPG: Bubbles, HIM

Pepper's Playhouse: Any

Popee the Performer: Eepop, Popee

Pokemon: N, James, Kieran, Allister, Piers, Klara

Portal: Any

Raggedy Ann: Any

Regretevator: Party Noob, Prototype, Scag, Bive

Splatoon: Any

Sesame Street: Any

Stardew Valley: Maru, Krobus

Star Vs. The Forces of Evil: Eclipsa, Celena

She-Ra: Entrapta, Double Trouble

Sanrio: Any

Sonic: Silver, Tails, Shadow

Skullgirls: Painwheel, Marie, Squigly

Steven Universe: Spinel, Peridot, Blue Diamond, Blue Pearl, Rainbow Quartz 2.0

Smile For Me: Kamal, Questionette, Dr Habit

Shopkins: Any

Steve Saga: Green Steve, Rainbow Steve

TTS/Vat7k: Cassandra, Varian, Nuru

TSAMS: Sun, Solar, Eclipse, Ruin, Bloodmoon

TTATC: Tack

TWF: Banny, Susan, Billy

TMC: Any

TMA: Michael (Pre-spiral and spiral), Helen (Spiral), Nikola Orsinov, Anabelle Cane

The Lego Movie: Benny, Unikitty

Trolls: Any

The Stanley Parable: Any

The Case Study of Vanitas: Vanitas

TOH: Hunter, Raine, The Collector

TMNT (mostly rottmnt): Donnie

TAWOG: Any

Vocaloid: Fukase, Yowane Haku, YohioLOID

Welcome Home: Wally, Sally, Poppy

Wordgirl: Dr Two Brains, Toby, Wordgirl

Yuppie Psycho: Tiki-Taka

Yandere Sim: Oka Ruto, Amai Odayaka, Supana Churu

Yo Gabba Gabba: Plex

FANDOMS: (oh boy here we go. I have no life can you tell?)

Purple- Fandoms I love to roleplay!

Orange- Fandoms I roleplay sometimes.

White- Fandoms I don't roleplay (but am still in)

Animal Jam, Aggretsuko, Animal Crossing, Ace Attorney, Avatar the Last Airbender, Angel Hare, Alice in Wonderland, Amphibia, Adventure Time, Angel Beats, A Short Hike, Animaniacs, A Mall Near You, Ann, Attack on Titan, Bungo Stray Dogs, Bigtop Burger, Bandori, BURNER, BFDI, Bendy and the Ink Machine, Bluey, Blue’s Clues, Battle Kitty, Bonnie’s Bakery, Baldi’s Basics, Blackout Hospital, Cookie Run, Crowscare, Cemetery Mary, Camp Here and There, Critterspace, Captain Underpants, Corpse Factory, Cuphead, Creepy Tale, Dayshift at Freddy’s, Danganronpa, Deltarune, Doors, Doki Doki Literature Club, Dungeons & Dragons, Dogman, Dandy’s World, Death Note, Dialtown, Demon Slayer, Don’t Hug Me I’m Scared, Death and Taxes, Death Mark, Ensemble Stars, ENA, Ever After High, Five Nights at Freddy’s, Fundamental Paper Education, Fatum Betula, FNF, Ghost and Pals, Gorillaz, Good Omens, Genshin Impact, Ghost Eyes, Gravity Falls, GRIS, Gavril, Hello Charlotte, HFJONE, Happy Tree Friends, Honkai Star Rail, Hooky, Homestuck, Hello Puppets, Hero Hours Contract, House, Hypnospace Outlaw, Harmony and Horror, It’s Not Me It’s My Basement, Inside Job, Inanimate Insanity, Invader Zim, Indigo Park, John Doe, Kirby, K-On!, Littlest Pet Shop, Lego Monkie Kid, Lego Batman, Lord of the Rings, Lalaloopsy, Lucky Star, Lain, League of Enthusiastic Losers, Little Nightmares, Looking Up I See Only A Ceiling, Lost in Random, Leftovers, My Little Pony, Max and Ruby, Minecraft, Marionetta, My Hero Academia, Monster High, Moon Phase, Minecraft Story Mode, Mad Father, Milk Inside a Bag of Milk, Milky Way Prince, Mario, Night in the Woods, Ninjago, Nimona, Neon Genesis Evangelion, Needy Streamer Overload, Nana, Ni no Kuni Wrath of the White Witch, Omori, Over the Garden Wall, OK K.O, Octonauts, Ouran Highschool Host Club, One-Eyed Lee and the Dinner Party, Project Sekai, Pressure, Parappa the Rapper, Powerpuff Girls, Pepper’s Playhouse, Popee the Performer, Pretty Cure, Pokemon, Portal, Regretevator, Raggedy Ann, Rumbling Hearts, Resident Evil, Rythm Heaven, Splatoon, Secret Alliance, Star Trek, Sesame Street, Stardew Valley, Strawberry Shortcake, Star Vs The Forces of Evil, Sailor Moon,  She-Ra, Spooky Month, Sanrio, Spiderverse, Studio Ghibli, Saiki K, Sonic the Hedgehog, Skullgirls, Steven Universe, Sally Face, Smile for Me, Shopkins, Steve Saga, Tangled the Series, The Sun and Moon Show, The Future Diary, Twelve Forever, The Thief and The Cobbler, The Walten Files, The Mandela Catalog, The Magnus Archives, The Lego Movie, Tattletail, The Muppets, Toilet Bound Hanako Kun, Trolls, The Stanley Parable, The Case Study of Vanitas, The Legend of Zelda, Twisted Wonderland, The Hobbit, The Owl House, TMNT, The Amazing World of Gumball, Transformers, The Prototype, Undertale, Undertale AUs, Underverse, Unikitty, Vocaloid, Varian and the Seven Kingdoms, Welcome to the Night Vale, Watamote, Wander over Yonder, Welcome Home, Wordgirl, Yuppie Psycho, Yandere Simulator, Your Turn to Die, Yo Gabba Gabba, Yu Gi Oh, Yume Nikki

KIND OF fandoms that I'm in kind of/have been in/am no longer in/know of: TADC, Hazbin/Helluva Boss, Musicals, Encanto, Barbie, SCP, Naruto, Scooby Doo, Care Bears, Jujutsu Kaisen, Dragon Ball Z, Dead by Daylight, Red Dead Redemption, Peach Girl, Amanda the Adventurer, Calico, Connection Haunted, Delicious in Dungeon, Our Wonderland, Dead Plate, Therapy With Dr Albert Krueger, Vincent the Secret of Meyers

my MAIN pronouns are they/it/he/xyr

extended pronoun list Bug/clown/alien/cat/paw/kit/aer/elau/delau/cupcake/glitter/snail/rain/plant/dino/worm/dragon/draer/draerself/rocks/xe/xyr/scene/:3/gloo/kandi/honk/xir/ze/ne/ nym/nis/nim/ner/phey/phem/ve/vem/ver/vim/ce/cir /moth/mothself/ghostself

emoji pronouns: 👽/👾/🐝/🪱/🐛/🐌/🦕/🪼/🐟/🐳/🍄/🥀/🍮/🎲/♟️/🎥/📼/🎞️/📺/📻🕰️/🗝️/♠️/🍓

[hermesmoly]

hello dearest user, i bequeath thee thy questions of thy ships thee likes in mythologia:

OTP of all time? (Thy owes me 20 dollars if thy says Zeus and Hera)

Thy favorite straight or male/female ship/s?

Thy favorite mlm or gay ship/s?

Thy favorite wlw or sapphic ship/s?

Thy ship/s thee likes to analyze but not ship as endgame? (any type)

Thy favorite doomed ship/s?

Thy favorite toxic ship/s?

Thy favorite exes-ship/s?

Thy favorite platonic ship/s? (any type)

Thy favorite OT3/poly ship/s (any type)

NOTP of all time?

Least favorite straight or male/female ship/s?

Least favorite mlm or gay ship/s? 13 Least favorite wlw or sapphic ship/s?

Thy crackships? List them all

**thee can include ships that are of the books or of your own mind. thy hopes thee does not find thy ask annoying

First of all, I love the dedication to the bit??? I don't know how the thee and thys of Old English but you gave me a chuckle XD

(No way will this annoy me. In fact, I will take pleasure in answering this ^^)

OTP of all time? - Zeus/He- *hands you your 20 dollars*

Thy favorite straight or male/female ship/s? - For human ships, it's Menelaus/Helen and Orpheus/Eurydice. For godly ships it's Zeus/Hera and Poseidon/Medusa. All rotate my mind like clockwork. I also love the married godly couples and Ares/Aphrodite.

Thy favorite mlm or gay ship/s? - ORESTES/PYLADES ORESTES/PYLADES SUPREMACY 🗣🗣🗣 Sometimes Patroclus/Achilles. Poseidon/Nerites. (Ares/Hermes for non canon)

Thy favorite wlw or sapphic ship/s? Oh, this is hard... I only have non-canon ones like Metis/Hera, Demeter/Leto, and Eileithyia/Clotho.

Thy ship/s thee likes to analyze but not ship as endgame? (any type) - oh AGAMEMNON/CLYTEMNESTRA takes the cake for that for sure. Their house is so rotten, their kids dead or depressed and their marriage in RUINS but once upon a time everything was okay, and that is what makes it hurt more. Other ships include Rhea/Cronus and maaaybe Apollo/Cassandra.

Thy favorite doomed ship/s? - Orpheus/Eurydice, Hades/Leuke :(

Thy favorite toxic ship/s? - Zeus/Hera, Rhea/Cronus, a bit of Pentheus/Dionysus too hehe.

Thy favorite exes-ship/s? - Poseidon/Pelops, Zeus/Themis, Diomedes/Odysseus (last one is exes best friends and fwbs to me.)

Thy favorite platonic ship/s? (any type) - HECTOR&HELEN AND ODYSSEUS&MENELAUS LETS GO!!! Also, I love the whole brotherhood between the Achean soldiers, yes even including Agamemnon. The Kronides (especially Zeus&Hades and Hera&Poseidon) and the younger Olympians' relationship with each other (too long to add. Its a lot.)

Thy favorite OT3/poly ship/s (any type) - Zeus/Hera/Metis (past) or Zeus/Hera/Prometheus (present but in a Kaos show AU way where Prometheus and Hera are both stressfully dealing with Zeus' shit 100% of the time. Not sure if It's a V-relationship or a whole poly ship but it's fun to imagine).

NOTP of all time? - probably Zeus/Leto or Semele (no hate to shippers).

Least favorite straight or male/female ship/s? - Paris/Helen (again, no hate to the shippers. A matter of preference and I find the influence of Aphrodite/the gods in their relationship way more fascinating than the pairing itself. They're very Curses by Crane Wives coded. In a way they also fit No.5 of your asks lol). Also Hephaestus/Aphrodite and Poseidon/Amphitrite. In a way.

Least favorite mlm or gay ship/s? My mind is blank, my least favorite is Zeus/Ganymede but I'm honestly neutral-positive with the interpretations of Ganymede as an adult.

Least favorite wlw or sapphic ship/s? Medusa/Athena for sure. Eradicate that ship.

Thy crackships? List them all - Hmmm I already mentioned some in No.4... Would love to see Medea/Oenone, Hermione/Electra, and some iteration of Ares/Thanatos/Hermes too. That's all I can think of for now

[neerdowellnarrator]

hi hi hello, my love for greek mythos is being ignited SO strongly and you are a VISIONARY, so this is an open invitation to talk about jace and jaceclones as the women of mycenea! please share any and all thoughts and reasoning you wish 👀

Obligatory disclaimer, I am not a classicist and haven't read the Illiad or the Oresteia trilogy in a hot minute. I do however have a bachelors degree in Jace Stardiamond studies and am working on my vibes-based PhD thesis so actually I'm an expert and everything I say is correct. Now let's talk about the jaceclones:

J2 as Iphigenia:

J2 the innocent, J2 the acolyte, J2 the sacrificial lamb. Iphigenia was a priestess of Artemis, you know, before that same goddess ordered her death. She spent her life in service to her god only to be murdered for her father's fuck-up. What justice.

Iphigenia does not know she is going to her death. She thinks she is going to her wedding. She does not know until the last moment that the alter she stands before is for sacrifice, not matrimony. She's so busy looking into the eyes of her "fiance" that she does not see the knife.

I'll say this for J2. He sees the knife. He saw the knife a mile away and still put on the veil (obscuring his view) and went to the alter. His god has decreed it. Maybe he will get to die a married man. Maybe his blood staining holy stones is the closest he'll get to divinity.

In the kind versions, Iphigenia is spirited away by Artemis at the last second. God says to Iphigenia, to Isaac, to Bluejay: "I was only kidding. I don't want you dead. I just ordered your murder as a test and you passed. I love you."

We tell a lot of stories in our little circle. Very few of them are kind.

J3 as Helen:

J3 wishes his face would launch a thousand ships. He wants to be so desirable he starts a war and so empty that no one asks what he thinks about it. He wants a goddess of lust to declare him her favorite. He wants to be wanted so much that men swear to kill and die for the chance to have him.

He wants to stare at the bodies of soldiers who died for him and say "oh what a whore am I." He wants lustful men to put words in his mouth to degrade him. He wants to be mistranslated in a way that makes him sexier, more alluring. He wants to be so lost in translation he ceases to be a person and becomes only an hourglass silhouette on a much-fingered page.

He wants everyone to want him so badly they hate him for it. He wants them to never forgive him.

J3 wants to be Helen so badly and fails to realize that he is already her in every way that matters: trapped and miserable, with no agency over his own life.

J4 as Electra:

Electra's sister's blood starts her story. She sees her sister, Iphigenia, die with a trusting smile, she sees her aunt, Helen, be stolen and locked away. She sees that the only way out is through. She sees red.

Red as in anger, certainly, but also red as in blood as she murders her mother, who murdered her father, who murdered her sister, who murdered nobody at all and died first anyway. Is this justice? This is the justice the gods will give her.

Electra's brother will suffer for their crime. Electra herself, however, walks away. She washes the blood off her hands. She tries to build a life.

J4 would murder her creator and walk away. She wants to. She wants to kill her god and save herselves. In the good ending, she does. In the bad ending...

J4 as Cassandra:

J4 knows what's coming. She knows they're doomed. She can do nothing. She rages, she screams, she refuses to fall into Porter's bed, she tries to save the others from doing the same. It's not enough.

Cassandra is captured and ensalved by Iphigenia's murderer, and she herself is murdered by Electra's murder victim. An alternate version of herself trying to save her, but, like J4 being too late to save herself.

[childofpriamthemusical]

CHILD OF PRIAM THE MUSICAL.

Hello, welcome to the official, Child of Priam: the musical account.

Now, you may be wondering…

What is this musical even about?

Now obviously there’s many children of Priam, but this musical focuses on the main three. Hector, Paris, and Cassandra.

This is a musical based on the Iliad — aka Greek Mythology. Mainly comedy and not too ‘accurate’

Now the plot — it’s about Telemachus, the prince of Ithaca, having a dream about the fall of Troy, and he gets lead and helped by the three souls of the siblings.

Now obviously Telemachus gets to watch his father and the other heroes as well. And mainly Hector leads him through everything..

But here’s the thing—half of the songs get interrupted because some horrible shit happens in the middle of it. (Read: Hector getting stabbed in the neck)

Characters:

Telemachus, Hector, Cassandra, Paris, Odysseus, Diomedes, Nausicaä, Menelaus, Polites, Eurylochus, Ctimene, Elpenor, Perimedes, Priam, Hecuba, Oenone, Helen, Andromache, Astyanax, Patroclus, Achilles, Astyanax, Bigger Ajax, Nestor, Teucer, Agamemnon, Penelope, Antinous, Amphinomus..

[alatismeni-theitsa]

SHORT QUESTION: Could you tell me if being blonde was common in Ancient Greece?

CONTEXT: I saw a lot of Greek people talk about how having dark hair was more common, so I thought it was (context: they were criticizing how Greeks are sometimes portrayed as always blonde). But there are many mythological characters (a lot of the gods, Cassandra, Helen, Menelaus, Achilles, Clytemnestra, etc.) being represented as blonde (although some vary. I've seen Menelaus redhead, Cassandra brunette and I've seen more Clytemnestra brunette than she blonde).

It could just be a common mistake, but many are usually based on some ancient source that actually either claims these people were blonde (or at least light-haired, like red or light brown) or leaves it implied. I started thinking it might be something more deity-related since most of the ones I saw were gods or demigods, but then we have people like Cassandra and Menelaus. And so I thought it was one of those cases where the general population isn't like that, but that's the standard of beauty, but I'm not sure and that's why I came to ask.

Hello! I'll try to answer this very plainly. Blond hair is and has been quite a rare genetic trait in the Mediterranean. Blond hair is still considered "special" in some way in Greece. In antiquity it was extremely special because it was so rare. (Like blue eyes). It was a "godly" trait/quality almost, because it was so rare. That's why significant characters in the Greek myths can appear to be blond.

Percentage of blond people in Europe:

I should also say that the Greek "blond" differs from the UK and Norwegian "blond". So that's why a blond N. European can look "too pale" to play a blond Greek. (Ofc all types of Greeks exist, including very very blond Greeks, but I'm just talking about general percentages)

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[johaerys-writes]

About that post of yours about people getting upset about Patroclus and Achilles being seen romantically, I've seen every single thing that made me so "wtf?"

I've seen them use the justification that they're cousins, from some sources. This doesn't make sense bc cousins getting along in Ancient Greece wasn't all that fuss, it's not like they were brothers! And they're cousins once removed…Orestes and Hermione are first cousins and no one finds it strange!

I've seen people use the justification that Achilles is married (Deidamia). Firstly, it depends on the source, secondly…he still has Briseis? There are sources that there are Briseis and OTHER characters (e.g. Polixena). Even in the sources where he's married, that doesn't stop him from doing anything. Not only Achilles but other characters! Agamemnon has been married for years and had Chryseis and Cassandra. Odysseus is married and his lovers vary with sources. Even before Helen was kidnapped, Menelaus already had a child with another woman. "Ah, but he would still prefer Deidamia, just as Odysseus and Menelaus still preferred Penelope and Helen" well, Agamemnon explicitly states that he prefers Chryseis, and Jason preferred Creusa over Medea…maybe we can assume that different characters are different characters!

I've seen people use the justification that both he and Patroclus had slaves… which, again, doesn't change anything. Again, married men had slaves, I don't know why we're pretending otherwise. Having a slave does not prevent having other relationships, after all, not even a legitimate wife prevents it (or married men wouldn't have bed slaves in the first place). "Ah, but that shows they like women in mythology!"…yeah…but well, some people like more than one gender. That still doesn't rule anything out, I don't see where we're going!

I've seen people explain that it's bc this is something modern… which isn't, there were already romantic interpretations of them in antiquity (Aeschylus, hello? Plato?). But then you point that out and they say "well, but it's not Homer" but then they bring up things like Polyxena and Penthesilea as proof and…their myths with Achilles aren't Homeric! And then they say it's not one of the explicitly declared couples…which, again, doesn't stop anything?? Even more so bc one of the people I saw saying this shipped two characters who never had any romantic text or subtext so it's a walking contradiction!

And even with this "explicit couples" thing, I've seen people talk about a vibe like "oh why focus on Patrochilles, which isn't even canon when there's Apollo x Hyacintus" and I'm still trying to find WHAT is the similarity between these two ships besides being between two male characters. Not even tragedy can be considered a determining factor since tragic couples are not exactly rare in mythology…like, oh tragic couple, so Megara x Heracles is the same too! C'mon, guys! I got the impression that these people have the idea that the ship only exists bc it's MLM and, therefore, any MLM ship plays the role even when the dynamics AREN'T the same…

Or they'll say "the fans make them into a straight stereotype of rigid gender roles", which if you go to the Ao3 tag and read the fics is easily refuted! Especially for Achilles, who depending on the fic isn't even a perisex cis man. But they really don't know the majority preferences of shippers bc e.g there's an idea that absolutely everyone is strictly bottom Pat x top Achilles bc "furious warrior Achilles" and "cool guy Patroclus"… which's funny bc it couldn't be further from reality! And the same person who says this has a ship with strict gender roles, for the love of god!

Even if the ship were canonically impossible… well, hcs exist! As a kid, I watched Naruto and thought Ino x Sakura was very cute, but that doesn't mean I DIDN'T notice that the canon couple was going to be Sakura x Sasuke. It looks like they've never seen shipping before, my god!

Finally: I left the most absurd for last. This wasn't on Tumblr, it was on another social network. Basically, user kind of texted something like "of course you like Patroclus x Achilles, you're not Greek!" And I'm still trying to understand the relationship between someone being Greek and someone liking or not liking a ship. Could it be that in the documents that ask for nationality, if you put "Greek" a questionnaire appears asking you if you ship Patrochilles and if you click "yes" you are taken for falsifying your nationality or something like that?

P.S.: You don't even need to answer this ask. I really just needed to comment on this nonsense, and my friends aren't mythology fans, so here we are!

Okay so I'm just over here nodding aggressively to a lot of things you said, I know you said I don't need to reply to this but let me just add a couple thoughts:

1. Seriously the cousin thing is laughable to me, like who cares who CARES!! Literally it doesn't even matter, not only were romantic relationships btwn cousins not that big a deal in ancient greek works and mythology but also there are so many literary works written before the 20-21st century that feature cousins falling in love, like in the realm of fiction at least it isn't the big and shocking thing the antis think it is, and it hasn't been for centuries, I don’t get why people get so worked up about that...... it doesn’t even count as an argument, moving on

2. People saying that Achilles can't possibly be queer because he sleeps with women and has a son etc etc..... I feel like they’re missing the point, because the thing about Achilles, in my opinion, isn't whether he’s gay or not, or even if he’s bi or not. Those neat little categories are a relatively modern invention I think, and I don’t think that any ancient person would identify as gay or straight or what have you. In some places being a little too close with your buddies (or your students, particularly young male students --athens i'm looking at you--) was a thing, in some others it wasn't, but it wasn't part of their identity like it is now, ykwim? So I think it's pointless to try to put Achilles and Patroclus in those boxes, many people have tried it and it doesn't work. Achilles may have a son with Deidamia but he doesn’t mention her in the Iliad not even once, he cares about Briseis and in the text he lies/sleeps with her but he wouldn’t stop Agamemnon's men from taking her nor would he return to the fighting for her, his relationship with or feelings for the women he sleeps/has slept with doesn't really affect his behaviour. It is Patroclus who he has the emotional bond with, Patroclus who convinces him to do something other than sulk in his camp, Patroclus whom Achilles values above all, Patroclus's death that changes the trajectory of the war and Achilles' own life. The bond between Achilles and Patroclus has cataclysmic consequences for all the Achaens and the Trojans, no other woman in Achilles' life comes close to what he has with Pat.

So like..... that's what's important here. Achilles could have slept with a thousand women and Patroclus with a thousand more and it wouldn't matter. I'm not here to argue whether they were exclusive or not sexually speaking, that's irrelevant and frankly I don't care. I also can't comment on Achilles x Polyxena or Penthesilea I'm not very familiar with those myths and they aren't even Iliad canon anyway so who cares. People have been writing fanfic about him for centuries, what's new.

3. As for the rest of the arguments against Patrochilles I have to admit I stay as far away from drama as I can so I don't really know what is being said online about them. The things you're saying honestly sound like toxic fandom behaviour and antis being at it for no goddamn reason. I'm not even going to respond to that because again, I don’t think there is anything to say. People can ship what they want and headcanon Achilles and Pat boinking any which way they want as long as they leave me alone lmao. Like as long as they don't come to my ask box or ao3 comments with dumbass or exclusionary views (or if Tumblr doesn't decide to spam me with them) then I'm good. I'm definitely not going to go looking for those views on Tumblr or elsewhere.

4. Honestly I didn't even know racism had been brought into this LMAO like I was not familiar with the take that if you're Greek you can't like Patroclus/Achilles. Like.... why is that? Why wouldn't a Greek person like Patrochilles? Do Greeks not have good taste then? I don't get it. Maybe it's because the Iliad is so deeply rooted into ancient greek culture and we learn about it in school or what not, so like it has to be this sacred thing that no one can touch/spoil? For me, shipping ancient dudes is the best way to actually learn a thing or two about history and literature and what have you LOL like I care so much more about the Iliad now than I did in high school. The sad thing is that I feel like if I ever told people irl that I ship Patrochilles they would first be baffled and then probably appalled lmao I can't even imagine their reaction if they ever saw the Patrochilles shrine I keep in my study 😂 Homophobia is a big thing here sadly, and I personally know people who would literally fight anyone who says that mlm was a thing in ancient Greece (because as we know the ancient greeks were the pinnacle of perfection and wisdom and the gays now just want to ruin that 🙄). I'll never forget my high school ancient greek teacher going into a whole rant about it for an hour, and also the school textbooks we had themselves were so heavily censored. It's just such a sad way to be if you ask me, both because you're a fucking homophobe but also you're missing out on so much of the nuance of this culture that you're supposed to "revere", it's always been super baffling to me.

Anyway this rant got away from me so I'll just stop here lmao. At the end of the day I think people will just say whatever they want about whatever they want, I sometimes also get upset and hurt by those dumb takes but it's really not worth it. I try to stay in my lane and block liberally and nerd out with like minded people and I think that's what life/fandom is about, you know

[triviareads]

upon my selective reread of Hello Stranger, I realized that Dr. Garrett Gibson stirred the interest of not one, not two, but three Kleypas heroes (and I count stirring as anything that was teased, or even a momentary attraction). We have:

Tom Severin: if a man and woman mildly antagonize each other in a romance novel as much as these two do in her introductory scene (they meet over the body of an injured Rhys Winterborne lol), then I feel like a romance is very much possible. I think Tom/Cassandra are cute, but sometimes they give Winterborne/Helen-lite vibes (sheltered aristocratic lady and the ruthless businessman who is socially below her but super obsessed with her) and it would genuinely be more intriguing to read how the railway mogul and doctor get about.

West Ravenel: He found her attractive— there was a scene from his POV where he says as much but this would have been a dull/somewhat implausible pairing considering West likes to do Farm Stuff and Dr. Gibson is a city gal

Ethan Ransom: Works because the book wills it but otherwise he might genuinely be the dullest home office agent I've ever read in historical romances, and that's before taking into account that this bitch was doing sus stuff for the British government in India AND bragging about how some Calcutta local (also because it's Calcutta, even bigger red flag imo— do you know how much shitstirring the British did in Bengal??) taught him half the positions in the Kama Sutra.

[princepotatosack]

Hello one and all and welcome to the The Duchess Affair name post. This is a list of period-accurate given names you can give your MC if you need some inspiration or want to know what kinds of names ladies had back then. I've combed through the 1809 edition of Debrett's Peerage for names of noblewomen in the 1600s and 1700s in Britain, which is where I'm taking the liberty of assuming TDA is set.

As always, you can drop any questions in my inbox, I love love love playing reference librarian :-)

Most names in this period either came from the Bible or from literature. The Bible was the most common book owned and read, so Biblical names were frequently seen. Some nobles liked to show off how cultured and educated they were by naming their children after mythological figures or characters from poetry and history, but most people of all classes named children after ancestors or loved ones (which explains why it seems like it was the same dozen names getting passed around again and again.)

Very common names -- the majority of women back then had one of these names:

Anne

Caroline

Catharine (not a typo – this was the standard spelling in the 1700s!)

Charlotte

Diana

Elizabeth

Frances

Georgiana

Henrietta

Isabella

Jane

Louisa

Margaret

Maria (pronounced like “Mariah”)

Martha

Mary

Sarah

Sophia

Less common but not unheard-of names:

Agnes

Alathea

Albinia/Albina

Alicia/Alice

Amelia/ Emilia/Emily

Arabella

Augusta

Barbara

Bridget

Cassandra

Cecilia/Cecily

Clarissa

Constance/Constantia

Dorothea/Dorothy

Eleanor

Emma

Gertrude

Grace

Harriet/Harriott

Hester

Honora/Honoria

Jemima

Judith

Julia

Juliana

Lavinia

Laetitia/Letitia

Laura

Lucy

Marianna/Marianne

Matilda

Penelope

Priscilla

Rachael

Rebecca

Susan/Susanna/Susannah

Theodosia

Theresa

Thomasina/Thomasine

Rarities and oddities -- I only came across these names once or twice each, use them to add a bit of flavor and eccentricity!!!:

Abigail

Amabel/Amabella

Amantha

Anastasia

Angelica

Annabella

Antonia

Araminta

Beatrix

Camilla

Christiana/Christina

Clara

Clementia/Clementina

Dulcibella

Esme

Ethelred

Eugenia

Felicia

Flavia

Flora

Florentia

Frederica

Gabriella

Helen/Helena

Horatia

Josepha

Leonora

Madelina

Margaretta

Narcissa

Octavia

Olivia

Philadelphia

Rose

Selina

Sibella/Sibilla/Sibylla

Tryphena

Urania

Winifred

And just for fun, some extremely British sounding surnames I found that made me chuckle aristocratically:

Beckington

Cavendish

Chatham

Courtenay

Dalrymple

Darlington

Fortescue

Gainsborough

Kingscote

Lovelace

Mountstuart

Ogilvie

Pembroke

Pierrepont

Posonby

Tattershall

Twisleton

Wentworth

Willoughby

Wriothesley

[secretceremonials]

hello i don't know you but you seem very cool :D also may we have the pleasure of reading your helen x cassandra x andromache oneshot?

hi!! thank you so much!! and yes, i'll look into posting it this weekend, it's a lot of fun (in a lovely tragic trojan war sort of way), it's very special to me though, so i just worry that people will hate it lol

[trashmouth-toastzier]

oi oi hello it was gay month and i had changed the layout of my tumblr for the first time since i created it :)!! then i drafted this post and only just found it now lol

decided to introduce myself a little and make a list of the non-male characters i like since my bio is a list of the fictional men i like >:)

hi im jules (u can also call me volantis), im 23 and im a non binary lesbian, i use they/them pronouns (and iel/yel in french), im british-french 😔✊ and i also speak some german

here are some of my favourite non-men!!!! (any characters who don't use he/him and/or identify as men) fictional characters:

genshin-> keqing, yanfei, klee, yoimiya, hu tao, shen he, yae miko, qiqi, xinyan, mona, lumine, arlecchino, beidou, collei, diona, dehya, faruzan, fischl, lisa, kujou sara, nahida, ningguang, xiangling

honkai star rail-> hook, natasha, bailu, seele, march 7th, herta, jingyun, kafka

honkai impact-> herrscher of sentience

mha-> himiko toga, mina, mei, ragdoll

proseka/vocaloid-> tenma saki, gumi, kagamine rin, hinomori shizuku, shiraishi an, yoisaki kanade, shininome ena, mayu, seeu, kaai yuki

magnus chase/percy jackson-> alex fierro, hazel levesque, piper mcclean

great pretender-> cynthia moore, abby jones

professor layton-> katrielle layton, flora reinhold, lucy baker, goldie potsby-mahn

love live-> tsushima yohane, yazawa nico, arashi chisato, emma verde, hanamaru kunikida, haruka konoe, kanata konoe, nakasu kasumi, tang keke, minami kotori, ohara mari, yoneme mei, mia taylor, tojo nozomi, tennoji rina, kazuna sarah, heanna sumire, watanabe you, ranpha, shirase koyuki, shitara fumi, kirihara yuuka, miyashita coco, hasekura kasane, kikkawa mizuki, tanaka sachiko, saeki reine, nishimura fumie

homestuck :') -> terezi pyrope, latula pyrope, rose lalonde, kanaya maryam, nepeta lejion, meulin lejion, roxy lalonde, calliope

tokyo mew mew-> aizawa minto, huang bu-ling

little witch academia-> diana cavendish, constanze albrechtsburger

bungou stray dogs-> yosano akiko, lucy montgomery

vanitas no carte-> dominique de sade, chloé apchier, amelia

black butler-> meyrin

pandora hearts-> alice, sharon rainsworth

vampire princess miyu-> miyu

tangled the series-> cassandra

it-> bev marsh

ensemble stars-> anzu, narukami arashi

x-men-> kitty pryde, rogue, mystique, emma frost, jubilation lee, polaris (lorna dane)

moomin-> little my, snorkmaiden

saiki k-> mikoto aiura, imu rifuta

dyslite-> feng nuxi, bai liuli, camille, catherine, yuuhime, discboom, elaine, heng yue, intisar, jiang man, li guang, mona, lin xiao, ye suhua

taz-> lup taaco, aubrey little, dani, lydia, lucretia, N0-3113, irene baker, gandy dancer

the raven boys-> blue sargent

pokemon-> jessie, lillie, blanche, acerola, mina, plumeria, klara, marnie, melony, nessa, sonia, opal, iono, nemona, tulip, mela

yuukoku no moriarty-> miss hudson

the magnus archives-> basira hussain, george barker, helen richardson, melanie king, jane prentiss, nikola orsinov, sasha james

teen titans-> raven, starfire, terra, jinx, bumblebee

bee and puppycat-> bee, cas wizard, toast

stranger things-> max, robin, erica

cookie run-> latte, strawberry crepe, scorpion, hydrangea, snow sugar, bellflower, black garlic, spinach, captain ice, snake fruit, kumiho, starfruit, moon rabbit, lychee dragon, pond dino, angel, black pearl, oyster, sea fairy, moonlight, pumpkin pie, cotton, cream puff, pinecone, milky way

idolm@ster-> hoshii miki, kikuchi makoto, takatsuki yayoi

etc... cause if not we'll be here for years (watch me add more when i think of them)

[1rakus]

cassandra and helen. like hello. can anyone fucking hear me

YEAH MAN YEAH. YEAH

[hermesmoly]

Hello, may I rant to you?

It saddens me that an artist I used to like termed the Menelaos and Helen ship "het"... They are one of my favorite ships, I consider them both bisexual or BixBi, and they were dubbed straight and boring. I know that anyone may express anything on this platform, maybe I am too sensitive, but it stuck me :(

Since you enjoy MenelaosxHelen, I felt compelled to share this even though I'm not sure where to take it from here (it's not really your problem too. I'm sorry.)

Oh dear nonnie. First of all, you seem to really need it, here's a virtual hug from me!🫂💕🫂💕🫂 💕Now, fandom is quite tricky and can get you in all sorts of bad emotions when you start engaging. Maybe the artist had no ill intentions with their opinions, maybe they did, but you cannot control what other people say, only how you perceive it. So what if they called Menelaus/Helen het? If you think they're bisexual, and it's not disproven by canon, go wild!!! I'm queer and I think they're bisexual too (Menelaus at least, though Andromache/Helen or Helen/Cassandra can be interesting...)

The point is that we all perceive stories differently. Some people enjoy X, others prefer Y. Find more people who like what you like! Also: You don't need to stick around people or accounts with their content you won't enjoy. Feel free to utilize that block button with anyone, nothing personal about it. Blocking and muting tags helps to curate your own space which I think is better for you to enjoy the stuff you already like :)

[mermaidsirennikita]

I feel like Cold-Hearted Rake by Lisa Kleypas kind of fits for the marriage due to pregnancy. Although the hero and heroine are definitely in love by the time they decide to get married they start off as something closer to fuck buddies. They fuck all over the estate (hot) which leads to pregnancy and people being bad at talking about their true feelings.!!!! The first time I read it I didn’t love it but after a reread I really enjoyed it!

See, I disagree with the marriage caused by pregnancy plot. The pregnancy is more of a late stage conflict for them—I don’t think they marry until the last minute, or they marry in between this book and Winterborne. To me, a marriage caused by pregnancy moment has to feature a good bit of time and conflict post-marriage, because the marriage is something they’re pushed into because of the baby. Devon and Kathleen aren’t even sure Kathleen is pregnant until the end, so while it causes problems they really don’t marry because of the baby; by the time she confirms she’s definitely pregnant, you know they’ll figure their shit out. The plot is more them falling in love, Kathleen’s marital trauma and Devon’s emotional issues/fish out of water syndrome, and a pretty sizable Rhys and Helen subplot.

I do agree that it’s better on second glance. It’s not one of my favorite Kleypas books, but I like it. If I’m being super honest, aside from Winterborne I kinda feel like the series doesn’t have the kind of standout moments you’ll see in The Wallflowers and The Hathaways. But Cold-Hearted Rake has a weirdly bad rep compared to books in the series I find weaker (Hello Stranger, Chasing Cassandra).

[hellovoid-meagain]

Hello Void,

I'm sorry to bother you so early in the morning. What I thought would be a fun way to spend my morning has landed me on a downward spiral. But talking to you always helps me clear my thoughts out.

Void- I'm so afraid. I know this is the early morning anxiety and a wake 'n bake gone wrong. But while testing the audio was connected to my headphones before I started listening to my erotic stories (my one vice because Brad isn't into BDSM), I decided to open tiktok. Only it wasn't an ad first thing. It was a video about NATOs War Warning. (I'll try to come back and name the creator if I can for posterity). Quick Google search, and yeah, it's real. An article from The Hill was the very first link.

So, this is it. I know I should be trying to keep it together and be hopeful, but... the Titanic is going down and people are still going about their business.

I have to stop because I'm spiraling.

Perhaps Apollo did not give Cassandra the gift of sight at all. Maybe he just lifted her head up to see that Paris was off to steal Helen of Sparta. She tried to warn everyone, just lift their eyes off the ground for just a moment to see for themselves, but no one could bring themselves to do it. Cassandra wasn't clairvoyant. She just looked up.

I don't know what the future holds for anyone anymore.

I'm sorry for being such a downer. I don't know why i felt the need to type that. Apologize for feeling like the world is ending while WWIII is about to start.

I need to go channel the last of this manic energy into something good, or at least try to shut my brain off for a hard rest.

I promise I'll write you a happy letter soon. But for now I need to rest.

I love you, Void.

-Me

[444namesplus]

american, french and german forenames encoded with aastralean

Aadreo Aanast Aarecd Aarelee Aareleen Aaron Aarore Ada Adam Adele Adelheed Ado Adolt Adrean Adreenne Alaen Alan Alece Alecea Alem Alemander Alemandra Alemandre Alemes Alena Alene Aleson Alhert Alherta Alherto Allan Allen Alleson Alma Almat Aloes Alossa Alrech Alrede Alren Altred Altredo Alwen Amalea Amanda Amandene Amel Amelea Amelee Amher Amo Ana Ando Andre Andrea Andreas Andree Andrew Aneta Ann Anna Annaleese Anne Annecd Annee Annel Annela Anneleca Annelecae Anneleda Anneleese Annelena Annelese Annemaree Annes Annette Ansnar Anthono Antoene Antoenette Anton Antonea Antoneo Arlene Arlette Armando Armen Arnaad Arndt Arnold Arsala Arthar Ashleo Asrel Astred Ate Atto Awe Caenten Calren Camelle Candace Candece Carl Carla Carlos Carmen Carol Carole Carolena Carolene Carolon Carree Cartes Caseo Cassandra Catherene Catho Cecel Cecele Cecelea Cedrec Celea Celene Cendo Chad Chantal Charlee Charlene Charles Charlotte Chelsea Cherol Chester Chloe Chres Chresta Chrestean Chresteane Chrestee Chrestel Chrestelle Chrestena Chrestene Chresto Chrestoshe Chrestosher Chrestot Claade Claadea Claadene Claere Claoton Clara Clarence Clemence Clement Clenton Cletton Clettord Clode Coartneo Codo Colette Colho Colleen Colton Connee Constance Conthea Cora Coralee Corel Corena Corenne Coreo Coro Craen Crestena Crostal Daane Daeso Dale Dameen Dan Dana Daneel Daneele Daneelle Danmar Danno Danohert Dao Daola Dara Dare Dared Daren Darene Darl Darla Darlene Darlheenw Darol Darrell

Darren Darrol Darsten Dart Dasten Date Datee Datherene Dathleen Datho Dathron Datla Datoa Datren Datrena Dawn Dean Deana Deane Deanna Deanne Dedeer Deedrech Deeter Deeterech Deeth Deetrech Dehhee Dehorah Dehra Delea Della Delle Dellee Delleo Dello Delores Delshene Dem Demee Demherlo Den Dendra Denes Denese Dennes Denneth Dent Derd Dered Deren Derrecd Derro Dersten Deseree Dlaas Dlaas-seter Doanlas Dolan Dole Dolores Domenecae Don Donald Donna Donrad Dora Doreen Dores Dorotho Dresta Dreste Drestee Dresten Drestena Drestene Dresto Drostal Dwaone Dwenht Eala Ean Eanece Eanene Earl Eda Edaardo Eddee Eddehard Edeth Edmand Edna Ednar Edward Edwen Eeleen Eelhard Ehono Elaene Elde Eleane Eleanor Elena Elesa Elesaheth Elese Elewaheth Ella Ellen Elmar Elmer Elodee Eloese Elona Elrera Elsa Elsee Eltreede Emel Emelda Emelee Emelo Emma Emmanael Emmanaelle Emmerech Enes Enew Enno Ennred Enrecae Enwo Era Eran Erec Ereca Ered Ereda Erelon Ereloneachem Eren Erene Ererett Eres Erhard Erma Ernest Ernestene Esa Esaac Esahel Esahella Esahelle Essee Estelle Esther Eteenne Ethel Ewald Hahert Hanaette Hanh Hannah Hanne Hannelore Hano Hans Hanter Harald Harhara Harold Harreet Harreo Harro Hastean Hasteste Hattee Hawel Healah Heanda Heat Heata Heather Heatrece Hecdo Hector Hedo Heede Heedemaree Heene Heener Heeno Heenrech Heenw Helda Helde Heldenard Helen

Helena Helenda Helene Hell Hellee Hellmath Hello Helma Helmat Helmath Helna Helne Hen Henededt Henlamen Henoet Henre Henreetta Henreette Henro Hererlo Herhert Herman Hermann Hermene Hernadette Hernard Hernd Hernece Herre Hertha Hertram Hertrand Herwen Hessee Heth Hethano Hetso Hetto Hlanca Hlanche Hodo Hoh Hohhee Hohho Hollo Holner Honnee Horon Horst Hose Howard Hrace Hrad Hradleo Hrande Hrando Hrandon Hrano Hrean Hrednet Hrenda Hrenette Hrent Hrett Hrettano Hroan Hroode Laan Laana Laaneta Laara Laare Laaree Laaren Laarence Laarent Lac Lacas Laccaelene Laccaelon Laccaes Lacd Lacdee Lacea Lacee Laceen Laceenne Lacelle Laco Lacoh Ladas Ladeslaas Ladeth Lado Ladorec Ladwen Laeme Laes Laetetea Lala Lalea Lalean Lalee Laleen Laleette Laleo Lamee Lames Lan Lana Lance Lane Lanece Lanee Lanene Lanes Lanet Lao Lared Lareer Larerne Larnen Larro Lars Lasmene Lason Lass Lasten Lastene Latold Latooa Latta Latw Law Lawrence Lea Leah Lean Leana Leanclaade Leanette Leanlac Leanloaes Leanmarc Leanmaree Leanmechel Leanne Leannee Leannene Leannette Leansaal Leanseerre Leantrancoes Lee Leenh Leesl Lela Leleane Lell Lellean Lellee Lem Lemmee Lemmo Lena Lenda Lendsao Lendseo Lenna Lennee Lenneter Lenno Leo Leon Leona Leonard Leonel Leremo Leren Lermaene Lerome Leroo Lerro Lesa Lesas Lesheth Leslee Lesse Lesseca Lessee Lester Letecea Lett Lettero Lettreo Lewes Llood Lo Loachem Loaella Loaes Loaese Loan Loann Loanna Loanne Locelone Lode Lodea Lodee Lodo Loe Loec Loel Loelle Loes Lohann Lohanna Lohannes Lohn Lohnnee Lohnno Lola Lon Lonas Lonathan Londa Lonette Lonn Lonne Lonnee Loo Looce Lora Lordan Lore Lorena Lorene Lorentw Loretta Lorn Lorne Lorraene Lose Losesh Loseshene Losetena Losette Loshaa Lost Lothar Maarece Maareen Madeleene Madelene Mae Mahel Mahle Malrena Malte Mam Mamee Mameme Mamemelean Mamene Manael Manale Mandalena Mando Mannee Manon Mao Marc Marcas Marcea Marcel Marcella Marcelle Mard Marea Marean Mareanne Mareas Maree Mareechrestene Mareeclaade Mareel Mareer Mareetherese Marelon Marena Marene Mareo Mareon Marlene Marloree Marnaerete Marnaret Marnareta Marnarete Marnee Maro Maroann Marren Marsha Marshall Marta Marten

Martene Martha Matheea Mathelde Mathew Mattee Mattheas Mattheea Matthew Mecdael Mechael Mechaela Mecheal Mechel Mechele Mechelene Mechelle Medard Mede Meenrad Melanee Meldred Melenda Melessa Melha Melo Melodo Melren Melton Menael Menan Mendo Menea Menhan Menna Mennee Meranda Mercedes Merco Merdo Meream Meredeth Mereelle Mesto Metchell Mohamed Mollo Mona Moneca Monecae Moneda Mora Moream Moretw Mornane Morres Mortle Naadalase Nadea Nadene Naedo Nael Naellaame Naelle Naetan Nahreel Nahreele Nanco Nanne Nanther Nao Naole Naome Naro Natalee Natasha Nathalee Nathan Nathaneel Necholas Nechole Necolaas Necolas Necole Nedola Neel Nehhard Nelhert Nellee Nelles Nelson Nena Nene Nenera Nenereere Nenette Nenner Neorn Neorne Neornea Neornes Neornette Nerald Neraldene Neraldo Nerard Nerd Nerhardt Nermaene Nermar Nernot Nert Nertrade Nesela Nesele Neselher Nettee Nheslaene Nlados Nlen Nlenda Nlenn Nlorea Noemee Nora Nordon Norma Norman Nottleeh Nottschald Notttreed Notw Nrace Nren Nrenoro Nreta Nretchen Nrete Nretel Nwen Nwendolon Oann Oannecd Oceane Odele Odette Olat Olere Olerea Olereer Ollee Olna Oolanda Ora Ores Orette Oronne Ortrad Osal Oscar Othmar Otto Ottomar Raal Racael Rachael Rachel Radolsh Raener Rahen Raho Ralenten Raleree Ralsh Ralter Ramon Ramona Randall Rando Ranessa Rao Raomond Raomonde Rashael Rassell Rat Ratael Rath Recardo Recd Recde Recdee Recdo Rechard Rechenwa Rector Rectorea Reenhard Reenhold Rehecca Relma Reme Remo Rencent Rene Renee Renena Renenald Renene Renes Reola Reolet Rera Rerean Rerna Rernel Rernenea Rernenee Rernon Reroneca Reronecae Reta Rhonda Roan Rochelle Rodneo Rohen Rohert Roherta Roherto Rohon Roland Rollrath Rolt Romaen Roman Romanne Ron Ronald Roner Ronnee Roo Rosa Rosalee Rose Rosee Rosemaree Rosemaro Rosena Ross Saal Saala Saalene Saalette Sadee Sae Sahene Sahrena Sallo Salrador Sam Samael Samantha Samela Sander Sando Sandra Sandrene Sara Sarah Sasan Sasanne Sascal Sascale Sasee Sat Satrecd Satrece Satrecea Satso Satte Satto Sawanne Scott Sean Searl Sedneo Sedro Seentreed Seerre Seerrette Sehastean Sehasteen Selma Selrea Semon Semone Senesmand Senmand Senno Sereren Sererene Serne Serneo Serro Seter Seth Shane Shannon Share Sharon Shawn Shawna Sheela Shelea Sheles Sheless Shelessa Shelesse Shelleo Shelles Shello Shere Sherleo

Sherol Sherre Sherro Sholles Solanne Solraen Solrea Solree Solrester Sonea Sonla Sonoa Soshea Soshee Sren Srenla Srescella Staceo Staco Stanleo Stella Stere Steren Steshane Steshanee Steshen Stetanea Taeth Taheen Taheenne Tahetha Tahrece Tamara Tame Tammo Tannee Tanno Tanoa Taoe Tara Tasha Ted Telecea Telem Tem Temo Temotho Tena Terdenand Tere Teresa Ternando Terrance Terre Terrence Terro Tettano Theerro Thelma Theo Theodore Theresa Therese Thomas Tlood Tlora Tlorean Tlorence Tlorent Todd Toheas Toler Tom Tommo Tone Tono Tonoa Torone Traade Trace Traceo Traco Trancd Trancene Trances Trancesco Trancoes Trancoese Trand Trandlen Tranw Trares Trecea Tred Treda Treddee Trederec Trederecd Tredred Treedemann Treedrech Tretw Troo Wacharoadreen Wade Wallace Walter Wanda Waone Warren Weehde Welhelm Welhelmena Wellard Welleam Wellee Welma Weltrad Wendo Wenetred Wentreed Wenwel Werner Wernher Wesleo Whetneo Wolt Woltnann