#and he has a lot to resolve in hell before going to heaven ie the situation with valentino and his slow burn with husk
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purpleshadow-star Ā· 10 months ago
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So, the season finale of Hazbin Hotel came out last night.
Spoilers ahead
I was never part of the Hazbin Hotel or Helluva Boss fandom(s), though I have been watching Helluva Boss since about midway through when season one was being released. I only watched the pilot for Hazbin Hotel maybe six months to a year ago, and I only ever watched it once. I never kept up with VivziePop or whatever was happening behind the scenes. I watched Hazbin Hotel as it came out the past few weeks, Iā€™ve watched some TikToks about it over the past week, and I read through a few (like, three) of the characterā€™s wiki pages like, yesterday.
So, with all of my inexperience in the fandom and in this universe, Iā€™m going to try to predict how the show is going to end.
Kind of.
Well, Iā€™m going to make a prediction.
I think Angel Dust will be the last resident of the hotel we see get redeemed.
Angel was the first resident of the hotel. Itā€™s only fitting that heā€™d be the last (that we see, anyway).
I think that season one was almost like a set-up season. The main characters and their characterizations/arcs have been established. The main problem, the extermination, has been temporarily dealt with. Itā€™s been proven that the main objective in the show, redeeming sinners through the Hazbin Hotel, is possible. Seeds of a bigger plot and future trouble have been planted.
Now that the bigger plot things are out of the way, I think the show will be able to (hopefully) slow the pace down now and really focus on the hotel itself and the redemption process of the sinners that choose to be there, along with the individual characters and their personal journeys and arcs.
I think that Sir Pentious getting redeemed and making it into Heaven proved that the concept of the hotel can work, so now that they have the bigger, newly built hotel, theyā€™ll start to get more residents. Weā€™ll meet and bond with more characters as the seasons go on and theyā€™ll go through the hotel and eventually get redeemed and go to Heaven.
I think that during all of this, for the next few seasons, weā€™ll see Angel work towards redeeming himself too. At this point, heā€™s accepted the hotel. Heā€™s accepted his place there and heā€™s been visibly getting better. Weā€™ll see him continue his path to redemption while also dealing with Valentino, his contract with him, and any other personal conflicts that arise.
I think that partway through the show, weā€™ll see Angel start to kind of put off becoming fully redeemed. Maybe heā€™ll just slow down, but I think weā€™ll see him become more apprehensive about completing his redemption.
At this point, heā€™ll probably already be in an official relationship with Husk, and his situation with Valentino might be resolved or at least not as much of an issue anymore. I think heā€™ll start putting off officially moving on into Heaven because he realizes that he doesnā€™t want to leave his friends behind. He won't want to leave the friends heā€™s made at the hotel, so even though he might be ready or almost ready to go to Heaven, heā€™ll just keep putting it off.
I think Angelā€™s ascension to Heaven will be the big series finale. I think that itā€™ll be a big emotional moment. Angel will accept that itā€™s time to move on, and there will be an emotional scene where he says goodbye to Charlie (who, as a Hellborn demon and not a mortal soul, canā€™t go to Heaven like the other sinners), and Vaggie (who will choose to stay with Charlie and has no desire to go back to Heaven), and probably Alastor (who loves his power and control too much to want anything to do with redemption himself) and maybe Niffty (Iā€™m undecided about whether sheā€™ll try for redemption, but Iā€™m thinking no, at least as of right now). If Husk stays behind, thatā€™ll be an absolutely heartbreaking goodbye too, but Iā€™m thinking that, at some point in the show, Husk might decide to try for redemption as well, so maybe he and Angel are going together and saying their goodbyes together.
I think weā€™ll get a teary goodbye for the people Angel is leaving behind in Hell, but weā€™ll also get a joyous reunion scene where he meets up with all the redeemed souls in Heaven as well. Heā€™ll get to see all the former residents we got to meet throughout the show, and maybe heā€™ll even have a moment where he gets to reunite with his sister, too. Itā€™ll be a somewhat bittersweet moment, but a happy one overall, because Angel Dust, the first resident of the Hazbin Hotel, who didnā€™t take it seriously in the beginning and thought redemption wasnā€™t possible, who went through so much in Hell and who didnā€™t think things could get better for him, will have finally completed the journey to redemption and moved on to Heaven.
And then maybe weā€™ll get an epilogue-esque scene or series of clips of Charlie and Vaggie happily continuing to help redeem sinners in the Hazbin Hotel, of Angel and the other redeemed souls happily living their best afterlives in Heaven, of the redeemed sinners meeting and welcoming new redeemed souls into Heaven as they come in.
And maybe, taking place some time in the future, maybe years after Angel goes to Heaven, weā€™ll get a moment of Charlie and Vaggie, and any of the other original cast that stayed in Hell, being allowed to take a day trip into Heaven. Maybe weā€™ll get to see them reunite with the redeemed sinners in Heaven in person for the first time since the redeemed souls left, and itā€™ll be a happy reunion where theyā€™re all just happy to see each other again and catch up. Maybe at this point the show has already established a way for the redeemed souls to still be able to communicate and keep in touch with those in Hell, so maybe this isnā€™t the first time the two groups have spoken to each other since the redeemed souls left the hotel, but maybe it is the first time since the redeemed souls left that theyā€™ve been able to see each other in person, so the teary hugs all around are expected and maybe even appreciated.
Maybe the show will end on a happy note, where our first and most skeptical hotel resident ends up happily redeemed with a partner who loves and values him for who he is and friends who care for him, and where our main character is able to fulfill her dreams of helping her subjects find the best version of themselves and move on to a better place.
Maybe the extermination no longer happens, so thereā€™s no more deadlines. Maybe being redeemed is no longer just an escape from second death. Not every soul in Hell is going to want to change, but for Charlie, itā€™s not about redeeming every soul. The Hazbin Hotel started as a way to decrease Hellā€™s population so that the extermination would no longer be necessary, so that no more souls, however awful, would be needlessly killed, but Charlie knows that the extermination was never about overpopulation, and yet sheā€™s still going through with the hotel and sheā€™s still working to redeem sinners.
So, maybe the extermination is a thing of the past, but Charlie will still continue running the hotel and giving sinners another chance, because everyone deserves another chance. Because Hell isnā€™t forever, and despite whatever some people did when they were alive, they deserve the chance to try to redeem themselves. They deserve the chance to try to be better. And thatā€™s Charlieā€™s dream. She just wants to give her subjects the opportunity to do better, and not everyone will take it, but in the end, we'll see that all the effort was worth it for those few souls who do.
So, to recap: I think Angel Dust will be the last sinner we see get redeemed. We might get clips and/or mentions of souls after him, but heā€™ll be the last character to go to Heaven whoā€™s journey to redemption weā€™ve seen. In the series finale, heā€™ll be the last major character to be redeemed, and weā€™ll get to see him live his best life in Heaven while Charlie happily stays behind in Hell to help guide more souls along the path to redemption.
Or at least, thatā€™s something Iā€™d like to see, anyway.
#even if this doesnt happen i think it's a cool idea lol#i love the idea of angel starting the hotel and then finishing it (for us)#like i feel like angel moving on should be a big deal right?#there's no way they wont make it a big deal#and i feel like they'll keep him in the hotel for as long as possible because he's a very popular character#and sending him to heaven earlier would split the focus of the show too much bc there's no way they'd write him off the show#and he has a lot to resolve in hell before going to heaven ie the situation with valentino and his slow burn with husk#there'd not be enough proper time for that if he goes to heaven too early#but there's also no way he doesn't go to heaven in the end lol not with his current tragic 'life' story#i also really hope husk tries for redemption and goes with angel in the end#it would suck for angel to finally find and bond with someone who actually loves him for who he is only to have to leave him behind#that would suck#so idk this might be a hot take but i really do want husk to eventually start working towards redemption#but i also want it to be bc he wants it. not just for angel if that makes sense#like getting to stay with angel is definitely nice and good for him but i want him to ultimately try for redemption for himself yknow#anyway ive gotten way off track lol#i also kinda got off track in the post at the end oops. but charlie can actually be so interesting#anyway this might all be wrong and maybe vizziepop has already said smth about angel's fate but like i said im new to all this so ĀÆ\_(惄)_/ĀÆ#hazbin hotel#hazbin angel dust#angel dust#huskerdust#hazbin hotel theory#hazbin hotel thoughts#hazbin hotel angel dust#hazbin hotel analysis#hazbin charlie#charlie morningstar#vivziepop#hazbin hotel spoilers
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herrikhan Ā· 6 years ago
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hey hi i need to do a giant meta on cha boy
first some clarification/context:
ā€œForeverā€ is the land of ā€œthe Immortalsā€ in the book and itā€™s basically like. heaven. where all the cool people who did awesome things go. saints, great scientists, righteous rules, etc., all those types of people end up in Forever as Immortals.
The Universe exists as like. an entity. in and of itself. itā€™s basically god in this whole knockoff christianity thing. it creates things and occasionally speaks to them, but the vast majority of the time itā€™s just the ocean all the fish live in so to speak; it will set people on paths and vaguely influence the tide of humanity to keep things ~in balance~ but it NEVER directly interferes if it can help it. however, it did directly interfere in herrikhanā€™s case, because he tried to declare himself the one true god and The Universe was like ā€œyeah no you need to stopā€
OKAY SO................. herrikhan was a star originally, like a literal star in the sky, but he really wanted to just go chill on earth i guess, and since he was one of The Universeā€™s most favorite and beloved... creations? beings? (which is a direct rip-off of the whole satan and god thing i know I KNOW bear with me it will get less blatantly christian as we go on) The Universe was like ā€œsure thing lil dude, just bring another star with you for the buddy system, text us when you get there okayā€ and thus herrikhan and his pal sofya both went to earth. donā€™t ask me when this was because it was a VERY long time ago, like, pre-christianity a long time ago
if i may be so bold....... CHRISTIANITY was the one who ripped off HERRIKHAN........ and this is probably the only place iā€™m ever going to say that because iā€™m just here to have fun not to be That Atheist
herrikhan and sofya both had magic powers obviously and they both sought to build those powers but !!! and this is very important !!! herrikhan sought power through action while sofya sought power through knowledge. herrikhan became a conqueror and tyrant who used his magic to suppress people; sofya became an advisor and wise woman who used her magic to see all sides and outcomes of a situation and offer the best solution for all parties.
sofya in the book is kind of like an oracle: she can see all of time, and thus she can offer guidance or warnings, but she canā€™t see it clearly enough to change the future drastically. she knows what the basic outcome will be but not how that outcome will happen, and because of this, she can make mistakes/misjudgements. (this was the case with holly and herrikhan but iā€™ll talk about that later.)
herrikhan............. took over the world............. or at least a lot of it............ and he was a really shitty king but nobody could stop him because heā€™s the most powerful warlock in the universe at that point and nobody could even come close to rivaling him............ except for........... you guessed it............ sofya herself
so at that point sofya goes to The Universe like ā€œhey so my best bro is a piece of shit now and i know heā€™s going to do something that absolutely warrants him being straight up destroyed from existence soon, but heā€™s still my best bro, and i canā€™t let any harm come to him, so maybe just imprison him forever in a really sucky place and only let him out when heā€™s proven that he can use his powers for good?ā€ and The Universe was like ā€œyeah okayā€ and then of course herrikhan tried to declare himself The Only Real God In The Whole Universe and The Universe was like bitch you fuckin thought
after that he gets stripped of many (not all) of his powers (itā€™s so much harder for The Universe to un-make something than it is to make something) and sent to odyl, which is basically hades/hell, itā€™s an underground prison thatā€™s really hot because itā€™s close to the earthā€™s core and itā€™s just absolutely fucking miserable. itā€™s unclear in the book whether or not herrikhan was the first being to be sent to odyl, or just one of many, or if he was the only one? it says that he made himself the king and he has a gross little underling named beyschlag, but idk if that means that he like. killed everyone else or there was just nobody around to stop him or if there were others they just didnā€™t care. i personally like to think that he killed everyone else because it fits v nicely into my whole thing about him being Necessary Evil but iā€™m getting ahead of myself
pre-odyl herrikhan was very much like... a beautiful wizard. he could do amazing things. he was evil yeah but as much as he was feared and hated he was also loved and worshiped because he could show people wondrous things, he could perform god-like feats, he really was the personification of like, divinity as something that is simultaneously too beautiful and terrible for humans to comprehend. he wasnā€™t a gross boy yet. he ends up becoming a gross boy because thatā€™s basically what odyl reduced him to and he just embraced it wholeheartedly
he can technically leave odyl and use magic outside of it, but it takes a tremendous amount of energy, and he must return each night to sleep in odyl
dark clouds and foul air signal his approach so he canā€™t take anyone by surprise anymore
he has a metal band literally screwed into his skull by The Universe so that he always has that band around his head and itā€™s basically his magical handcuffs; it dampens his powers and signals to everyone that he is a prisoner
he will be released if he can possess a heart of pure compassion, ie, if he learns to be good or is able to earn the love of someone who is good
now, The Immortals knew about herrikhan before he did all this and as he was doing it; some of them are able to see/go into the mortal world, and many of them had even met him at one point or another. so itā€™s like, Real Big Fuckin News when herrikhan gets sent to odyl. and his presence sticks around with The Immortals even after heā€™s in prison because
he can still visit them!!!!!! he can send curses their way, or send them dreams, or plagues, or whatever else he can possibly dream up to indirectly influence them. because of this he becomes a boogeyman figure among Immortals, and a lot of the magical creatures/fair folk/Immortals who didnā€™t start out as earthly beings tell their kids scary stories about him.
because of this he becomes known as the prince of nightmares and/or the prince of dreams
side note: at this point sofya has gone to Forever and lives there just chillin with all the other Immortals and she kind of becomes like... an athena-type figure, who protects mortals by giving them wisdom and guiding them onto the right path, as penance for not stopping herrikhan. she eventually becomes the advisor to the king of Forever, st. nicholas, aka santa claus, and later on, he and his wife make sofya the godmother of their daughter holly
now holly is very much. hm. like. a persephone type character. but also not? her whole deal is that sheā€™s basically like, unconditional love personified. she was an immaculate birth given to nick and his wife by The Universe because some little kid was like ā€œbut santa what do YOU want for christmasā€ and nick was like fuck man i really want a kid but those pipes donā€™t work up here in Forever!!! and because of that thereā€™s a whole big theme of holly being like, So Pure, So Loving, So Good
which is, of course, why herrikhan heard about hollyā€™s birth and the first thing he did was devise a scheme to use her heart as his way out of odyl
he removes HIS OWN HEART and puts it in hollyā€™s chest in order to freeze HER heart and keep it baby-pure forever, and by doing so he curses her to always be frozen (ie her default body temperature is super cold and she will overheat and die at normal human temperatures) and his logic is that the curseā€™s consequences will make her so sad and lonely and fed up that eventually sheā€™ll just come to him like HERE TAKE MY STUPID HEART I DONā€™T WANT IT ANYMORE
he didnā€™t expect using his own heart to cause any side effects. well it fucking did because he later fell in love with her like a god damn idiot
this is the point where both holly and herrikhanā€™s fates are both sealed in complementary roles-- holly will be his ticket out of odyl, because they will fall in love, but at the same time, she wonā€™t be with him if heā€™s still evil, so he has to at least try to be a good person for her to confess that she loves him and get him out
a bunch of stuff happens, holly grows up, she realizes that sheā€™s the only person who was ever born into Immortality and resolves to do something about it by the time sheā€™s an adult, and so on her 21st (i think in the book itā€™s 18 but thatā€™s........... no) birthday she sneaks away to the mortal world and thatā€™s where herrikhan goes after her to try and steal her heart
before holly leaves sofya says something cryptic to her about like. sheā€™ll lose her heart there or something idk but sofya clearly interprets it as ā€œherrikhan will find you and kill youā€ when in reality what ends up happening is ā€œholly fulfills an age-old prophecy by getting a boyfriendā€
ANYWAY
nowā€™s the part where i can scream about herrikhan being Necessary Evil lmao
thereā€™s a string going throughout the book where he sends holly dreams of odyl and like an enchanted telescope that lets her look into the mortal world and stuff and imo itā€™s meant to be like, ~oh heā€™s tempting her the way satan tempts people~............ but thereā€™s also a scene where he just shows up in Forever and wreaks havoc for 10 seconds before disappearing (just to prove he can i guess??? idk) and itā€™s almost an exact description of the whole ā€œthe ground opened up and hades rose up and everyone was screaming and he stole persephone awayā€ myth aspect so you can bet your sweet ass iā€™m keeping that and using it as evidence that They Should Have Gotten Together
like.... heā€™s evil. he doesnā€™t have a reason for being evil other than he just can. itā€™s not like he doesnā€™t know better, because he does. he just likes being evil and powerful and above everyone else. he never feels remorse for the things that he did, even after he meets holly. he doesnā€™t get saved or redeemed by holly loving him; he gets a new role among the powers that be, and that role just happens to be a true neutral one instead of a neutral evil one. itā€™s very much a reflection of the idea that hades didnā€™t just take persephone because he wanted her, but that there was a very specific plan by the gods for them to be together, and that both of them kind of Knew they were Meant For Each Other.
he regains his full powers, he loses the band around his forehead and it becomes his wedding ring instead, he isnā€™t really allowed in Forever but he makes his own home in the mortal world and probably remakes odyl to be a home as well. he goes from being the boogeyman to being a sort of instinctive fear-- he no longer haunts peopleā€™s dreams; he compels a woman to stay out of a dark alley, he compels a child not to play near a fast-moving stream. he becomes Necessary Evil in the sense that heā€™s still technically Evil but his deeds ultimately serve Good.
holly, in turn, earns her place as an Immortal by getting him out of odyl and changing his role. she becomes his wife and his keeper and itā€™s an equal dynamic between them, itā€™s a relationship built on mutual respect. they both know that the only reason he got out of odyl is because she said ā€œi may love you but i will only be with you you if you do goodā€ and he went and did good, and if at any point he stops doing good, sheā€™ll leave him and The Universe will un-make him.
anyway this is so fucking long and iā€™m all in my feelings about a kidsā€™ book discount bible story so iā€™m gonna stop here before i just start going in circles lmao
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