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EVERY DAY. EVERY DAY I HAVE TO BLOCK PEOPLE WHO PUT ALL F/OR THE GAM/E IN MY NOTES.
#gav gab#NO THIS POST IS NOT ABOUT THE HOMOPHOBIC GAY ''''''SPORTS''''''' BOOKS#THAT'S NOT WHUMP THAT'S TRAUMA FETISHIZATION HOPE THIS HELPS#the racism! the misogyny! oy vey! get it out of my life foreverrrrrr#i will deal with people tagging a lot of things i don't like but one mention of anything#by miss racist homophobe trauma fetishist nora and you are Out#zero tolerance policy get it out of my faaaaace#also as a sports fan i find the books personally offensive on that level lol theyre so bad#please consider reading literally any other book#i promise you there are books about angsty white boys who kiss#that aren't like uh. that.
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if arkarm were really both supposed to be gay for you then why was arm made admin of a Hot Boy facebook page in the first place? shouldn't he just be gay from the start? sus writing choice tbh
#MAYBE i missed something in the translations and he was bi from the start bc he does say 'beautiful people' but i think thai is enough of a#gender neutral language that that could mean anything#i KNOW that ark is 100% gay for you and they better do something to change it#also like. i don't wanna yuck anyone's yum#but i do have Issues with how on board the fandom has gotten with labeling them as bisexual (based on the novel)#imo when it's this trope that is too generous an interpretation and we really should push back against gay for you and its prevalence in bl#(especially bl written by women. obv it's a fallacy that all fujos are str8 women 'fetishizing' gay men but there are still prejudiced ways#that some women write queer men and that should be recognized as a real problem)#i think p'new did a really good job altering abaab enough that it avoided gay for you and gave him a storyline that also included exploring#and questioning his sexuality in a meaningful way and made him all but explicitly bi#and i'm sure they'll make changes for this script too#but i think people should be more critical of gay for you and not just be like THEY'RE BI :) when it wasn't the author's intention#intention isn't everything death of the author blah blah it still matters how queer people are portrayed in the first place#not just our interpretations#anywayyyyyyyyyyyyy#more shit that i can't say on twitter because someone would misinterpret it and get mad at me lol#ptl liveblog
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hey remember when people got mad at red white and royal blue, an adult romance, for fetishizing gay men by having gay sex scenes. in the adult romance novel.
#i will never forget the tiktok that was like. i wasn’t expecting this and it made me so uncomfortable to read#maybe you shouldn’t have read! an adult romance!#he like. specifically felt like the inclusion of sex in a gay romance made gay people seem sex-obsessed i think. like do you HEAR yourself#those were also really not that graphic in my memory. it was mature content for sure but they weren’t overbearing or intensely detailed?#i don’t think the book is perfect or anything btw this is just a wild issue to have with it. imo#sure hope this isn’t Still a popular opinion#also if you think that any time a woman thinks or writes about gay men she’s fetishizing them. you’re wrong ❤️ hope this helps#(casey mcquinton is also not a woman)#ted talks#rwrb
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ive said it before and i'll say it again: be normal about bi people
#yall yell at each other and all of us that bi women arent welcome in any sapphic space because they like people who arent women sometimes#and constantly make jokes degrading or weirdly fetishizing bi men#and if youre anything other than a binary man or woman and youre bi. good luck trying to get any ''community'' with these pricks#if you think about sexuality and identity as being harshly divided along binary lines you tend to not comprehend mspec people#and thus we get constantly tossed back and forth between being seen as straights by monosexual gays and dirty queers by cishets#and either way you all harass us over whatever gender of partner we've had more of#''oh youre rlly just gay and in denial'' ''oh you're straight and invading our spaces'' fuck off right to hell#anyway rant over. be normal please#ghoul groans
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The absolute depraved insanity of the ONS fandom wank really was fucking bizzare now that I think about it. How tf did that fandom ever come to a culture where people would be sending each other death threats over writing/not writing a starving 16 year old CSA survivor with CPTSD and suicidal depression as a smirking sexy confident fuckboy. Or drawing him as he was (an effeminate guy who looked like he'd weigh 100lbs sopping wet) because it 'made him look like a bottom'. Girl what the fuck.
#ik it had to do with the general rancidness of a fandom mostly full of teenagers#but i keenly remember at least one of the more toxic bitches being like. 26.#which is fuckin wild. also the fetishization of gay men via poorly applied yaoi troupes but it was esp. worse#in ons. esp. because like. people would draw either mika or yuu drastically taller thwn the other#and then fight over that as well and canonically mika was taller by 3cm.#3cm.#...actually now that I think about it its probs bc hes a vampire more than anything#bc if you look at it from the lens of twilight fans it makes way more sense#bitches wanted mika to be edward cullen soooo fuckin badly meanwhile that mfer would blush if Yuu so much as touched him
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looking at negative reviews of drive away dolls and so many of them are so ridiculous <3 it is by no means a perfect film and very much not for everyone like you do not Have To Like it... but so many of the takes are just like "ugh of course this was made by A Straight Man" (and the ppl who acknowledge, but cannot wrap their heads around, whatever ethan coen and tricia cooke have going on). like people are DISGUSTED by it and particularly t.e/rf/s of course (bc it "centers men/penises") and its like.... sorry you hate fun idk
#like not that i need to argue with people who have that take but.#the plot is not about dildos bc its trying to imply that lesbians are obsessed with penises.#its just because penises are funny. not funny for EVERYONE but like. widely thought of as funny for sure#i certainly had a great time lol#like there is a difference between 'the comedy didnt land for me/its not my style'#and 'you have to be sick in the head to make this' (not as a homophobic review but coming from a gay person)#i just do not see fetishization in that movie i really dont#like lesbians have sex in it....... is that inherently fetishistic?? bc lets unpack that#ANYWAY i have like..... one Actual Issue with the movie as far as Problematic Content#and that is that the sundown town line/reference did NOT sit well with me at all#id need to watch it again if i wanted to talk about like my critiques on it As A Film bc i was watching it to have fun and i did#and you know what that says something that i wasn't distracted by finding it really bad or anything lmao#i do agree with people that say the psychedelic sequences felt unnecessarily long#(though perhaps those would be more entertaining if u are watching it while high lmao. i’ll never know)#BUT OH MY GOD PEOPLE CITING THE TRANSITIONS AS A REASON ITS BAD??#sorry you hate fun!!!!!!!!!!!#anyway.#r.txt
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the rise in fujishis is so weird and the fact that theres gay men defending them is whatever but from the perspective of another gay man can we maybe stop doing things to deliberately make gay people uncomfortable via yaoi. thatd be awesome
#not tagging this with anything because if people start yaoi d/scourse with me ill kill myself#ive been seeing a lot of this though and i think its really weird#“im not reading it to fetishize/disrespect gays” and then when gay people tell you to keep it away or that they still find it strange#you start intentionally being disrespectful to them. thats strange#like im so incredibly sorry that i dont want to talk to people who read insanely fetishistic content created BY STRAIGHT WOMEN#FOR STR IGH T WOMEN#start supporting gay authors if you really want to consume gay content. it is honestly the least you can do
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i will NEVER understand the superiority complex of straight women who fetishize fictional gay men and their relationships and think they're some kind of incredible, open-minded, amazing being
#some chick really just said people who don't like astarion don't like him because he's queer💀#like WHAT#i got news for you... not a single companion is straight#and there are plenty of legitimate reasons why people don't like the various companions#ur coming for people who dislike astarion just bc u fetishize his relationship with ur male oc#and they act so smug about it too LORD#do u even know anything about the person ur talking to? or do u just assume they're a straight homophobic guy?#i hate these types of ppl#fetishizing gay male relationships =/= ally
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I instantly see it as a red flag if somebody tries to justify Darkstalker's actions. My guy literally did not have a point. He never did. I get it that he's a sad and angsty character with a sympathetic backstory, but it's borderline comical how I'll see people justify him wanting to commit genocide.
On the other end of the spectrum, anybody who slaps the 'toxic' label on just about any character with more shades of nuance than just 'pure good'. Winter isn't toxic because he got pissed off at Moon for defending a dragon who, again, was going to commit complete genocide of his tribe. Anemone isn't a horrible and irredeemable character because she was manipulated by the only character she could consider a friend. Sundew isn't unhealthy because she has an irritable personality. I want these people to genuinely look at some toxic people and understand the difference between the two.
super curious whats ur guys wings of fire red flags for the fandom or just. the books/characters in general.
mines those people draw basically human hands n slap em onto feral dragons who look otherwise 100% like a stereotypical dragon.
EXACTLY LIKE THIS
#Also when people just very clearly like WLW or MLM ships like Sunlow and Qinter because 'aren't gay people so cute uwu'?#Yeah man it's really cute when you do nothing but very clearly fetishize queer couples and characters and treat them like objects#to gawk at as opposed to like...anything else#wings of fire#wof#darkstalker wof#winter wof#sp-rambles
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100 Kinky asks 😈
Top bottom or vers?
Dom, sub, switch?
On a scale of 0 to 10 how kinky would you say you are?
How many people have you had sex with last year?
What size is your penis?
When was your most recent boner?
When did you last cum?
How often do you jerk off?
What is the last thing you jerked off to?
Where did you last cum?
Are you hornier in the morning or evening?
What are your 3 favorite kinks?
What are your limits?
What kink would you most like to try?
What kink have you tried but didn’t enjoy?
Do you have a master/sub?
What’s the kinkiest thing you’ve done?
Favorite piece of underwear you own?
What underwear would you like to buy/be gifted? (pics welcome)
What underwear are you wearing right now and how long have you been wearing it?
Have you ever been wearing a jock or a thong to work?
Have you ever gone to work commando?
What socks are you wearing right now and how long have you been wearing them?
What shoes are you wearing right now and how long have you been wearing them?
Have you ever sniffed someone else’s underwear, socks or sneakers? Or made someone sniff yours?
Have you ever come inside a sock? A sneaker/boot?
Are you into body smells? What kind?
Are you into pits?
How hairy are you?
Do you prefer hairy or smooth?
Do you like being shaven by a dom/shaving a sub?
Do you like humiliation?
Do you enjoy exposing a sub/being exposed?
Do you like dirty talk? What names do you like calling/being called by?
Do you like spitting/being spitted on?
Do you like being punished/punishing a sub?
Do you enjoy receiving/inflicting pain? How strong?
What is your favorite pain instrument?
Do you like giving a spanking/getting spanked?
Do you like slapping/getting slapped?
Have you ever gotten marks/given a sub marks from impact play?
Would you hit a sub’s balls/let someone hit your balls?
Do you like chastity?
Have you ever worn a chastity device/been a keyholder? For how long?
Are you wearing a cage/keeping someone locked right now?
What is your favorite chastity device? Do you own any?
Do you like cock rings?
Do you like choking/being choked? How strong?
Do you like breath control?
Do you enjoy gas masks?
Have you ever tried poppers? Do you like that?
Do you like ass play?
What’s the largest thing you have fitted in your ass/someone else’s ass?
Do you own any ass toys? Which kind?
What’s your favorite thing to put inside your ass/someone’s ass?
Do you like getting fingered? How many fingers can you fit?
Do you like fist? Have you ever tried?
Is there anything in your ass right now?
What’s your prepping routine? Are you naturally clean?
Do you like rimming? Being rimmed?
Have you ever worn a toy in public?
Do you own any fetish gear?
Are you into leather?
Are you into spandex?
Do you own a rubber suit?
Are you into pup play? Do you own any gear?
Do you like putting a collar on a sub/being collared up?
Do you like holding your sub on a leash/being leashed up?
Do you like tying up/being tied up?
Do you own any bondage gear? What’s your favorite?
How long have you ever kept someone/been tied up?
Do you enjoy sensory deprivation?
Do you like putting a gag on a sub/being gagged?
Do you like mummification?
Do you like tickle torture?
Do you like consensual non-consensual?
Do you like role play? What scenario turns you on?
Do you like piss/watersports? How hard do you like it?
Have you ever tasted your own piss?
Have you ever tasted another man’s piss? Has another man ever tasted your own?
Have you ever pissed yourself/made someone piss themselves for fun?
Do you get turned on at public urinals?
Do you get turned on pissing in public/seeing other men piss in public?
Are you into farting on someone/being farted on?
Have you ever farted on someone/been farted on for fun?
Are you into scat? How hard would you like to go?
Have you ever tried scat play?
Have you ever given/received a blumpkin?
Are you into sounding?
What’s your darkest fantasy?
Do you like anonymous public sex? Ever tried a glory hole?
Have you ever visited a gay bathhouse? A cruising bar?
Have you ever attended an orgy?
Have you ever attended a fetish event?
Have you ever had sex with a straight friend?
Do you watch porn often? What’s your favorite way to watch it?
Do you read smut?
Do you have many kinky friends? Do your friends now you’re kinky?
Do you have a kinky partner?
Truth or dare? 😈
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wow it'd suck being an actually trans person if more people transitioned for fetish reasons. it'd give people the impression that most people transition for fetish reasons. and it gives precedent to outlaw it as a sexual fetish thing, not a real condition.
What is (to you) an "actually trans person"? Someone with an incurable immutable medical condition? Someone that should be allowed to transition (an act so extreme and degenerate that no healthy person should ever be allowed to engage in it) only out of pity because they're too mentally or physically sick and weak to bare existence any other way?
The fascists that hate perverts hate you too. They want to crush you under their boot and then scrape the viscera off like they just stepped in dog shit. There's no appeasing them. You can't make them love you by being a good chaste respectable humble little white supremacist christian transsexual.
What else shouldn't people be allowed to do for sexual reasons? What should they be allowed to do for sexual reasons? Should people not be gay for sexual reasons? Or straight for sexual reasons?
Every one of us is here because our parents and our parent's parents were perverts who fucked and bred. Your great great grand mother got dicked down raw and nutted in and with any luck she enjoyed it. We're all perverts. And that's fine! There's no shame in it. No one is better than you and you're no better than anyone else.
Men and women aren't innately different. Gender isn't sacred. It doesn't need to be protected. Don't concede anything just for the chance to beg for mercy.
If trans liberation is going to be worth having then it has to be rooted in the idea that transness is both beautiful and mundane. Transitioning is no big deal. It's not regrettable. People can choose to transition for any reason (or no reason at all) and them doing so is something to celebrate.
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(The Poem is named) Emetophobia CW
It’s 2024 and I’m in a 20 year old drag bar, watching the very first trans-masculine performer to compete on their stage, he gets second place even though he deserved first.
I show up to the men’s bathhouse on trans night to get free entry and get turned away at the door, and told it’s for transgirls only, bitch you could have put it on the flyer that transmen need not apply.
I’m doing a line of ketamine off the table, calling it stealing transfem valor.
I get banned from the camsite for listing myself as transgender when I don’t have a dick, I complain online and get told that the trans-masculine body is to grotesque to be fetishized and I should be grateful.
I wear a packer and hitch up a skirt, walk the street, get $20, calling it stealing transfem valor.
Cissie puts a TW #body-mutilation tag under my thirst trap. Tranny puts a TW #dysphoria tag under my thirst trap.
T-girl with a callout post pedojackets me, Enby with TME in bio pedojackets me, T-boy with a self-deprecating joke about men in his bio pedojackets me.
I do another line of ketamine off the table, calling it stealing transfem valor.
I am at the woman’s clinic, I am at the woman’s clinic, I am at the woman’s clinic wearing a mask – not cause I’m compromised (I am), just to hide my beard – avoiding making everyone uncomfortable.
I am getting re-diagnosed with BPD, which just means I have bitch disorder and no one trusts me.
I take my pills and throw them up. I drink my liquor before the beer and throw them up.
I am just 14 when the picture and videos go up. Remind me that I have it easy, they were only pictures and videos.
I am just 17 when the recording of my proof stops before it happens, my phone memory is full, I’m called a liar and now I can’t see buttered crackers, thanksgiving, or sriracha sauce without wanting to kill myself.
No one gets me therapy, but they still want to convert me, she puts her hands down my pants, at least I’m 19, to remind me I’m a woman – tell me how they love trans men again.
I do a third line of ketamine off the table, realize it doesn’t effect me, calling it stealing transfem valor.
I call myself a dog, I start biting my lovers and I have to hold back from ripping out a chunk of flesh, I don’t think I’d throw it up.
I am reading the statistics, 40% of BPD patients try and kill themselves. 1 in 2 transgender men try and kill themselves. I’m one of them. I’m 12 and I swallowed all the pills. I’m 14 and the gun is empty. I’m 17 and I put the box-opener against my throat. Therapist calls me a liar, there is no scar, and my words don’t count for anything.
I’m using he/him pronouns for Stormé DeLarverie, like the stonewall veteran association said to, and telling you he started the riot, calling it stealing transfem valor from a woman who told you she didn’t fucking do it.
I’m shoving my fingers down my throat in a fit of mania, convinced I can vomit up my uterus. She tells me I should be grateful, she’d do anything to be able to get pregnant.
My brother in the struggle gets bottom surgery without top, calling it stealing transfem valor to feel comfortable in his body.
It’s 2024 and I’m at trans pride, the announcers tells everyone to give a round of applause for trans woman, a round of applause for gender-queers, a round of applause for transfems, a round of applause for the enbies, a round of applause for trans-masculine people. You forgot someone. Did you know a trans man started the first ever transgender pride parade?
A book on queer history talks about gay men and lesbians and trans women and the women who dressed as men for better job opportunities. I’m reminded that my invisibility is a privilege, if you aren’t seen you don’t get bashed.
I’m 13 and they throw me in the girls bathroom, pin me down, beat me, and in black sharpie write “dyke”, write “tranny”, write “lesbo”, and pull my hair out the cap I shoved it in.
I’m 19 with D cups that a binder can’t hide and a beard I refuse to shave less I break the mirror and kill myself with the shards of glass I would swallow.
Man at the bus stop calls me tranny and tells me I’ll never be a woman. I’d laugh if he didn’t have his hand on my throat. Calling it stealing transfem valor.
I’m 21 and have to pull a taser on him, cause from the back, even with short hair and top surgery, I look rape-able.
I’m 23 and in the gay district when they chase me down the street, calling me faggot.
Make another forcemasc post, calling it stealing transfem valor.
Read an article about a trans man prostitute that kills himself and ends up another female statistic.
Read an article about a trans man shooter, they blame the HRT he didn’t have access too.
Going to read a callout about me, five pages on Google Docs, does this post make it on the list?
Do a final line of ketamine, write the final line of a poem that makes me want to die, calling it stealing transfem valor.
I puke and miss the toilet.
#saint speaks#transandrophobia#my writing#my poetry#ftm art#ftm poetry#emeto#sa tw#trans men#ftm#transmasc#transgender
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I have to assume that when you spend a lot of time making arguments that you should be able to perform sexual acts in front of or involving non-consenting individuals, you are, broadly speaking, not a person who respects boundaries and not someone anyone should feel comfortable being alone with. All of this behavior shows a basic indifference to the psychological effect of unwilling exposure and involvement in sex acts--to wit, an indifference to sexual harassment, to rape, to rape culture, etc. Environments such as nude beaches, nude spas, etc operate under the active rule that all there are consenting to be present in other's nudity. There is no parallel to this when a person is conducting a sex act in a public place.
Arguing that being disgusted, offended, or scared by such an action is parallel to being disgusted by an LGBT person existing neutrally in public, or arguing that legislation against public sex is functionally the same as legislating against LGBT people existing neutrally in public, are both fallacious arguments made in bad faith. Yes, public indecency laws have been used against the gay community. Yes, there were and are gay cruising areas where sex acts are committed in public. There are specific cultural and historical circumstances that led to both of these facts. Those circumstances have nothing to do with the issue at hand--whether or not it is OK to feel disgusted, offended, or scared by being involved in sex without your consent.
This attempt at a historical-legal argument is a false equivalence. It's a bit like arguing that since marriage regulations were used in the past to prevent interracial marriage, we should not have any laws about marriage at all and an adult should be able to marry a 12-year-old and if you disagree you're a cop. How can you say it's MORALLY wrong for me to marry a 12-year-old? Don't you know anything about how marriage laws have been used for bigotry? You're just like those people who said it was MORALLY wrong for a white person and a Black person to get married. It's not only offensive on the level of "stop using the entirety of tumblr to justify your fetish," it's offensive on the basic level of knowledge and logic.
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This post made some shippers Big Mad lol I said what I said.
Hard pills to swallow: Cas isn’t gay & Misha Collins is annoying
#anti destiel#anti dean winchester#anti misha collins#not rly but just to be sure#anti destihellers#Cas isn’t gay#castiel#hardcore ship dedication and fetishism disguised as activism and allyship#you know how I know this isn’t just about them wanting a queer character?#100% of the Cas is Gay He Only Likes Men truthers ship d*stiel#and they attack anyone who interprets cas as anything other than homosexual#including fellow shippers#so like#other queer fans (like me) aren’t allowed to hc him as bi or pan#because according to them that’s homophobic (?)#tell me you don’t see bi/pan people as ‘real’ queer people without telling me#tell me you see monosexual gay men and women as more ‘purely’ queer than anyone else#without telling me#and on top of that#tell me you’re a soft brained loser who calls actual real human beings homophobic and Bad People#just because they disagree with you in your stupid fictional shipping contests#as a side note it’s kind of hilarious that we’re all devoting so much time and energy on spn discourse when this show is literally terrible#spn
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This has been sitting on my mind a lot lately but it seems extra relevant now with the way Tommy and by extension Lou has been criticized for acting “too gay” in ep 5. And while yes, I will agree Tommy acted slightly different in ep 5, it has absolutely everything to do with Lou’s incredible acting choices to play Tommy differently when he is around people he deems as “safe” which is much better explained in this amazing post here <-
All these complains are doing is just yet again exposing buddies as homophobes who are, at the end of the day. Uncomfortable with real queerness being shown infront of them. Of course we already knew this with how they react to Buck and Tommy kissing and god forbid flirting especially if it has sexual implications like the daddy kink scene.
They can’t possibly fathom their precious uwu baby Buck would be sexual with another man so they spin and twist it however they can to make it out to be, “NO! You see! Tommy started the flirting! Tommy is just an insatiable horny gay man! He only wants sex! Like most of them do!”
Which is again spewing homophobic rhetoric, who wouldve guessed thats what they immediately turn to?
I now have something probably controversial to say but oh well, im going to say it anyway.
A good many of these shippers would be deeply uncomfortable with Buddie actually becoming canon, because they would be nothing like their fanfic. They don’t want to see two men in a relationship, they want to see Eddie in a relationship with the character they project themselves onto.
There are so many examples of this but perhaps the biggest being the way Buck is made out to be the “woman” in the relationship and especially how he is made to be the “mom”
Buck and Tommy’s relationship 1st does not have any children involved so there are no gendered roles to be assigned (even though if there was.. theyd just both be a dad), they are both beefy and the same height, which is what people usually use to decide “top” and “bottom” but again since there is little physical difference between them, they cannot do this, which only adds to their uncomfortableness.
Furthermore, I would go as far to say that Buddie shippers dont actually like Buck.
A while back a shipper posted this analysis of Buddie, that essentially reduces Buck to a dog. A pet. Only to be let out of the bedroom to cook and take care of Chris, otherwise he’s meant only for Eddie’s pleasure.
Which, disgusting. But the thing that stood out most to me was how Tommy was criticized for
letting Buck be himself. For accepting and loving him flaws and all. For not trying to change anything, or “train” the bad out of him
While Eddie was the “trainer” in that scenario, that had to train the bad out of Buck in order for him to be acceptable.
And thats the funny thing isnt it? Buddie shippers have to completely warp and destroy Buck’s character to make him fit their mold of perfect partner for Eddie. They make him out to be this helpless person who can’t even tell Tommy he doesnt want to be called Evan, that needs rescuing from Tommy, that is a “mother figure” to Chris, that his “dream role” would be live in chef and maid for the diaz family..
When none of that is Buck.
Buck is a smart, independent and strong man. He has worked tirelessly on himself to know who he is and what he wants, which right now? Is with Tommy.
Bringing it back to my main point, their complaints of Tommy being more gay and Bucktommy intimacy ultimately just boil down to homophobia plain and simple, seeing real queer representation and not representation that they can specifically twist and cater to themselves through fic, headcanons or gifs, makes them uncomfortable
(could this be why so many of them ignore shows with canon m/m ships for favor of shows with fanon ones that will never actually happen? So they can make these demands for representation then shit on it as soon as they get it because its not fanfic? Its not their fetish specifically catered to them? It actually represents real life queer men who they don’t actually like?)
#911 abc#tommy kinard#bucktommy#evan buckley#anti bobs#anti buddie#fandom when relationships dont play out like fanfics:🤯#fandom discourse#911 discourse#discourse
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I’ll preface this by saying I’m not really a shipper. I just enjoy canon couples on TV Series/films.
Terms I’d like B*ddies to remove from their vocabulary because they don’t know how to use them correctly:
Media literacy: For a group that uses this term a lot you sure do misinterpret everything in this show.
Queerbaiting: Going to expand on this one. A show that’s already been pre established for having queer characters simply cannot queerbait.
Ship baiting: While sometimes you can argue that they could be doing that, that’s only if you look at the show in a very biased manner. You might think this is the case but the general audience doesn’t think the way you do.
Ship war: This isn’t a one tree hill situation where there was Team Brooke Vs. Team Peyton where the middle guy (Lucas Scott) had canonically been with both women. This is people not understanding fanon vs. canon and not being able to just watch the show. It’s like playing quarterback on Madden and thinking you could be better than Patrick Mahomes.
Plot device: everything’s a plot device. Move tf on.
Predator: You sound like crazy MAGA supporters calling everything regarding the LGBTQIA+ community as predatory. Sit down.
Co-parenting: I know this is a big one and discourse was brought up during the hiatus. Oliver and Ryan have loosely mentioned this years ago but it was never to be taken this seriously. Do y’all even know what co-parenting is or are you that big of a donut? Buck is someone who loves his best friend deeply and by extension, his kid too. Him taking care of him frequently does not make him a co-parent. Maybe he is a parental or uncle figure, but he isn’t a co-parent. Also, I swear y’all need to learn how a will works. He is a GODPARENT, not a GUARDIAN. Stfu.
Hag: This especially applies to women, but to say that someone 25-30+ is a hag for still being in fandoms or enjoying tv shows/films is inherently misogynistic. Men are never held to this much criticism for enjoying fictional media, but women aren’t allowed to?
Queer Coding: people of the same sex “looking at each other”, hugging, or having intimate moments all together doesn’t make them queer coded. It could mean that they just love each other that deeply platonically. While representation is amazing and just because you interpret a character as queer coded (just like my ship baiting comment) doesn’t mean others interpret it that way as well. In addition, network TV has stipulations, and also actors are allowed to decline storylines. Ryan has mentioned his character is heterosexual an abundance of times which means (at least for now) that he isn’t willing to go for this storyline.
Dead naming: Y’all construing the fact that Buck wants people like coworkers and some of his former love interests, to saying Evan is his dead name is inherently transphobic because do you even understand what a dead name is? Evan Buckley is shown as being fine with being called Evan by both Tommy and his sister. I’m pretty sure some of his love interests have called him Evan as well.
Fetishizing: You guys saw two hot guys who “looked at each other” and for 6 seasons have wanted nothing but to see those two make out with each other. Those of us who enjoy Tevan saw Buck giddy at the thought of Tommy and have wanted domestic fluff for them since.
Anything to do with racism, homophobia, and misogyny: I’ve seen the way you guys have conveniently weaponized Henren and by extension Aisha/Tracie when you didn’t get the Ryan/Oliver interview, don’t try to act like you’re morally superior. Not to mention wanting a canonically gay man to die in a show and not even holding those who use your ship name to write CSA fics accountable because you’re petty and want to throw hissy fits. Anyone looking at your comments as an outsider would think you’re homophobes and yes queer people can be homophobic.
I do hope you can expand your vocabulary. 🤍
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